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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Ellie here with Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: It's a beautiful Monday back in Pittsburgh. We are back

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Speaker 1: from Indianapolis. Made the drive back across the what was

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Speaker 1: kind of a flooded plane there for a while once

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Speaker 1: we got out of Indianapolis. But or in Indiana, i

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Speaker 1: should say, but we are back. The combine has wrapped

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Speaker 1: up and lots of stuff to unpack here. Matt, oh, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I mean there's news around the league. You know, car

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Speaker 1: is the Saint. I mean, what kind of ramifications does that?

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Speaker 1: Having the quarterback world. People are getting released. It looks

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Speaker 1: like Bud Dupree, Leonard Floyd m. Kendricks from the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: But I thought we'd just recap, you know, all the

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Speaker 1: stuff from the combine. There's tons of unpacked there. But

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Speaker 1: the league never stops. It's hard to keep up. It

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Speaker 1: is hard to keep up. And the other thing of

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Speaker 1: note is that the franchise tag tags are due tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: right Tuesday, right right right in. A week from today

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Speaker 1: is the first day of the legal tampering in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Like next week's gonna be crazier. And we're give me

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Speaker 1: talking free agency all next week. So it's it's you know,

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Speaker 1: people people always ask me, what do you do in

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Speaker 1: the off season? Off season, there's no off season. Yea,

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Speaker 1: my mom and dad were over and my mom's gonna

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Speaker 1: do this for well over twenty years. She's like, so

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Speaker 1: you're probably on a much now after the combine. I'm like, Mom,

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Speaker 1: I'm scrambling, man. I mean, I feel like I'm catching

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Speaker 1: up because I didn't have my regular stuff at the

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Speaker 1: combine and now more has happening left and right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so let's let's dive into some of this stuff. First

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Speaker 1: of all. I mean, the big news of the day

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Speaker 1: is the is that Derek Carr signing four years, one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars one hundred million dollars in

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Speaker 1: total guarantees, It includes a no trade clause, and that

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Speaker 1: this is like the first domino to fall, yeah, in

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Speaker 1: the offseason quarterback market. Yeah, and I think it's a

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Speaker 1: good fit. I mean, I don't think it's an overwhelming situation.

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Speaker 1: But if you're the Saints, you didn't have tons of

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Speaker 1: resources in terms of draft picks in cap space. But

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Speaker 1: I think immediately as it stands here on March six,

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Speaker 1: you're the best team in the South, and we know

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Speaker 1: that this is a team that doesn't want to rebuild.

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Speaker 1: They'll keep mortgaging things towards the future. I say, it's

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Speaker 1: always Marty grow in New Orleans and they'll we're about

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Speaker 1: to hangover when it comes. But Michael Thomas will be gone,

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Speaker 1: Winston will be gone. They still have a first round pick,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the Peyton deal, so that worked out

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Speaker 1: pretty well for them. I like their young uh you know,

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Speaker 1: receiver in the Lava, So I think they're in a

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Speaker 1: decent spot, a decent spot. But this doesn't make them

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl contender in the NFC. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: they're I'm middling there. They're an above average NFC team

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Speaker 1: if they if they were in the AFC right now,

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Speaker 1: and you're going apples to apples, and I think the

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Speaker 1: Steelers rosters better. I do too. I mean they're probably

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Speaker 1: fifteenth in the Power ranks right now. Yeah, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: kind of what I was getting. So fifteenth in the

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Speaker 1: Power rankings. But as we saw it in last year's

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Speaker 1: that entire division was like twenty and lower. Absolutely, So

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Speaker 1: this is a step forward. I mean, we could see

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Speaker 1: we probably will see four new quarterbacks in that division.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not in Atlanta, but maybe they end up getting Lamar.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Rogers ends up in Carolina. I don't know about

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Speaker 1: ramification of this deal is interesting. I think there's some

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Speaker 1: Raider ramifications, but I think that you know, Carolina will

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Speaker 1: I think Tampa's just total rip it down, rebuild mold.

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Speaker 1: So that that brings us to Lamar. And it's going

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Speaker 1: to be interesting here to see whether there were the

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Speaker 1: reports over the weekend that um Eric to Costa flew

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Speaker 1: Lamar doesn't have an agent, right, and again this is

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Speaker 1: the complication that this brings to it, like you know, otherwise,

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Speaker 1: you talk about stuff, but then Lamar has to you know,

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Speaker 1: But it's going to be you know, forty plus million

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Speaker 1: puts him in the top I don't know. I mean

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Speaker 1: if the average of the top five quarterbacks or top

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Speaker 1: do the non excl use as you just mentioned, do

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons say you know what? Or or the

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers for that matter, right say you know what?

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Speaker 1: The you know, the Saints just went out and got

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr. Let's throw out a trump card here. We'll

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Speaker 1: give up two first round picks Lamar easily. I mean,

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Speaker 1: better than you know trading him. So I think it

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Speaker 1: still get traded. Then you can still trade him. You know,

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Speaker 1: you can work out something with those teams. But two

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Speaker 1: first isn't enough for me. And even if it was

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't go somewhere else. We talked about this

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Speaker 1: They've got a new offensive system, a new offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: do that. Something has to happen on the Ravens and

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Speaker 1: Rogers and maybe some other fronts very soon in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: What kind of receivers do we want? You know, Ben

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Speaker 1: maybe try to resign him or send him on his way,

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Speaker 1: you know, just all these different things. I'm sure Mawkins like, hey,

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Speaker 1: Atlanta or one of these teams would love the land

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Speaker 1: a deal worked out with Rogers. It's gonna hit any

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Speaker 1: minute now that we haven't seen. Go take your you know,

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Speaker 1: the Jets Land Jimmy, And then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: even if even if they talk Lamar Jackson is hey,

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Speaker 1: we're everything's hunky dory here. We're gonna we're gonna franchise

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Speaker 1: tag you. If Lamar decides not to sign that thing,

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Speaker 1: which I bet he won't. It's a headache for you again.

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Speaker 1: You got to wait through the off season with his stuff,

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Speaker 1: and you're sitting there and you're going, Okay, is he

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Speaker 1: but he's not. He's not there to install your offense.

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Speaker 1: And there's some you know's DeAndre Hopkins gonna agree to

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Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, can you do the other thing?

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Speaker 1: We didn't talk about this last week at all, but

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Speaker 1: the Costa came out and ripped their receivers. Oh that

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Speaker 1: was strange. Yeah, and again Rashad Bateman, you know, snaps

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Speaker 1: Costa like a eric. You drafted these guys. You put

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Speaker 1: this team together, right, Not only that you traded Markeith Brown.

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Speaker 1: despite all those early picks, you didn't draft one last year.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you didn't see there was a problem,

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Speaker 1: for biting back, like, hey, why don't you put us

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Speaker 1: crying about who you draft. Well, that's not two guys

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Speaker 1: a lot of it just thems from uncertainty about our

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Speaker 1: I mean, John Harbo has been there for what is

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Speaker 1: this way? If this were happening with the Steelers, Steelers

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Speaker 1: feels will be going nuts right now. Oh yeah, Ben

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Speaker 1: back is ripping the offensive coordinator. It's just and you

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Speaker 1: and nobody knows what it's going to look like. People

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Speaker 1: will be going nuts about this right now, then they should.

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Speaker 1: If I was a Ravens fan, very concerned. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I have great respect for that organization. I think they'll

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Speaker 1: handle it better than most. I'm sure they have a plan,

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Speaker 1: much like the Steelers would have of Hey, this is

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Speaker 1: our number on Lamar. We're not going over it. But

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Speaker 1: as it stands right now and we have a long

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Speaker 1: time to open and kickoff, of course you can get

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Speaker 1: these things right. I'm a little concerned if I'm I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, tall worked Ravens player, Like, it's

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Speaker 1: not screaming confidence that they got this. Don't worry, I

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Speaker 1: got this. You just don't feel that way at all. Right, Yeah, Right,

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Speaker 1: it's a quarterback. It's a quarterback, and if you're trading them,

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Speaker 1: expectations for the seasons becomes drastically dead. Then you don't

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Speaker 1: have a quarterback, which brings us, brings us to the draft. Matt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we did not see young throw at all at the combine,

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Speaker 1: but he measured in just a shade over five ten

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Speaker 1: and two hundred and four pounds. Did that affect your

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Speaker 1: opinion of him at all? No? But I saw him

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Speaker 1: he small? Were better than that, but I just thought,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about the other guys. I mean, obviously, Anthony

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Speaker 1: Richardson's a really interesting conversation. But I felt like Young

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