Speaker 1: It's eleven PM at Jacob Marley's grave and you're listening
Speaker 1: Tonight Call. Hi everybody, and welcome to Night Call, the
Speaker 1: podcast for your holidays and jolly nights. I'm Molly Lambert
Speaker 1: and with me in Los Angeles, says Lynch. And over
Speaker 1: in New York, we have Emily Oshida your Ghosts of
Speaker 1: Christmas Past, Present in future. Well, this is a very
Speaker 1: special episode where we reflect on the night Calls we've
Speaker 1: had this year and all the things that happened on Nightcall.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to pose a question much like we
Speaker 1: original We started our show deciding which of the members
Speaker 1: of the movie Zodiac we are, um, which we can
Speaker 1: maybe cut to a clip of here, even what are
Speaker 1: you guys feeling right? What's your sign? What's her Zodiac? Well,
Speaker 1: I said, because tests just showed up here today with
Speaker 1: a stack of papers printed out from the Internet, and
Speaker 1: I decided that means that she's the Robert Gray Smith.
Speaker 1: And I just took that well, because he's the one
Speaker 1: who like does all the research and has all the papers,
Speaker 1: all the files. He's a doodler. Yeah, he's a doodler.
Speaker 1: I'm a doodler. And Molly, Emily you expressed an affinity
Speaker 1: for Ruffalo. Well, I feel like I'm I'm Mark Ruffalo
Speaker 1: in most movies if he shows up. I do think
Speaker 1: in this case too, especially when I was an editor,
Speaker 1: I feel like you have to be the no fund
Speaker 1: person a lot. And so I had sympathy for for
Speaker 1: Tasky because he's like a detective and he's not like
Speaker 1: he doesn't get to have crazy conspiracies or like go
Speaker 1: on crazy benders like like Grabbertanny Junior does. He kind
Speaker 1: of has to just like be a regular detective and
Speaker 1: like carry out the you know, he gets to wear
Speaker 1: a cool side arm though right like he does like
Speaker 1: a cool gun holster. Yeah, and he has good ties.
Speaker 1: He has bow ties. I like his style a lot,
Speaker 1: probably of all of them. Um. I do like how
Speaker 1: he kind of as as things go on and as
Speaker 1: Gray Smith kind of takes the case into his own hands.
Speaker 1: I love the way that he sort of secretively aids
Speaker 1: him by like saying, well, I didn't tell you this,
Speaker 1: but blah blah blah. Um So yeah, So I don't know,
Speaker 1: I have a soft spot for Tasking and I feel
Speaker 1: like nobody else would pick them. Also, so my friends
Speaker 1: have a Colombo party Apparently every year it's a Columbo
Speaker 1: Halloween party where everyone just comes dressed as Colombo, and
Speaker 1: this year it was apparently Colombo or Mark Ruffalone Zodiac. Um.
Speaker 1: I feel like this is all pointing towards Molly being Avery,
Speaker 1: which I think is uh. I mean, I know you
Speaker 1: at that house boat. You know I want to be
Speaker 1: the Robert Downey junior character in anything. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: me too, but when I'm honest until up until Iron Man,
Speaker 1: at which point I don't care anymore. You don't want
Speaker 1: to be an arms dealer. No, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be an arms dealer superhero. I mean, there's just a
Speaker 1: string of performances where he's so amazing starting with less
Speaker 1: than zero zero. R d J is not too shabby himself. Um,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know Chaplain is a good movie. I
Speaker 1: enjoyed him in Wonder Boys. Yeah, there's just you know,
Speaker 1: I love Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. There's just a long,
Speaker 1: a long period where he's really great and everything, and
Speaker 1: then you had that last little come back and now
Speaker 1: he makes Marvel movies. That's our our final answer. Molly
Speaker 1: is Avery, Test is Gray Smith and I'm Tasky and
Speaker 1: that's it. There's no more argument that it's settled. Um.
Speaker 1: I was thinking maybe we could decide which of the
Speaker 1: ghosts of Christmas past, present or future do you identify with.
Speaker 1: But so, the ghost of Christmas Present is like the big,
Speaker 1: like fat guy with the fruits and all the like
Speaker 1: plentiful like a turkey around him. I think, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a jolly man. Um. And then the ghost of
Speaker 1: Christmas future is like the devil. Basically, I believe it's
Speaker 1: like the ghost of Christmas past is Jacob Marley. Um no, No,
Speaker 1: the ghost of Christmas past is like a little boy
Speaker 1: or girl. I feel like it's a child spirit and
Speaker 1: it brings you to your own Christmas in the past. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get to look at Christmas in the past. And
Speaker 1: then the Christmas present is you go to your nephew
Speaker 1: at already that you didn't actually go to and they're like,
Speaker 1: where is Uncle Scrooge. We all love Scrooge. Everyone misses him.
Speaker 1: And then his wife is like, isn't he kind of
Speaker 1: a horrible person? And they're like, oh, he's a Emily
Speaker 1: Holidays sing, don't they sing? Thank you very very much?
Speaker 1: Or no, no, no, that's when he died. That's in
Speaker 1: the future. One the Future, and then everybody's celebrating his death.
Speaker 1: Everyone celebrating his death because he wouldn't let anyone have
Speaker 1: time off for Christmas from work. Um, I feel like
Speaker 1: the Ghost of Christmas Future is pretty cool, pretty metal. Wait,
Speaker 1: that's the one who's like the scary your grave and
Speaker 1: it's like, this is what happens if you don't repent. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I really liked Christmas Carol. Did you guys get into
Speaker 1: like Dickens and stuff? I really liked it. I haven't
Speaker 1: read it or seen it in such a long time.
Speaker 1: I just love anything where there's like a million iterations
Speaker 1: of it. It's like in the public domain, so anyone
Speaker 1: can do it. You were trying to get us to
Speaker 1: do a scrooged episode, and I feel like we both
Speaker 1: vetoed that. Well. If there are some other good Christmas
Speaker 1: Carol remakes, there's like a Muppet one that's good. Them
Speaker 1: up at one is good. There's a Mickey Mouse one
Speaker 1: that I watched a zillion times as a child. Right,
Speaker 1: They're all just like wedged in that weird part of
Speaker 1: your brain, and there's something really nice about the format. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: I love when I realized anything is going to be
Speaker 1: either a Christmas Carol themed or it's a Wonderful life themed. Um,
Speaker 1: are you guys it's a wonderful life heads? Absolutely, I
Speaker 1: love it's a wonderful life. I'm too fragile, man, You're
Speaker 1: too fragile. I'm really fragile about it. It's very dark.
Speaker 1: It's like the darkest movie. I remember there was one
Speaker 1: winter when I when I watched it and just thought
Speaker 1: like I kind of just made myself like I midway through,
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think you can handle this,
Speaker 1: And by the end, I was just crying so hard.
Speaker 1: I don't do this to yourself. Test that's why people
Speaker 1: like it, though I know, I know gives you the
Speaker 1: you can just ventilate all your tears, your holiday tears.
Speaker 1: As Jimmy Stewart just like, yeah, I'm Jimmy Stewart. That's
Speaker 1: my answer to this question. Uh No, I guess. I
Speaker 1: guess I'm the ghost of Christmas past. Um, if we
Speaker 1: have to choose, I'm an angel e spirit, You're you're
Speaker 1: the A. I think I'm present, like I like that.
Speaker 1: I think I'm I think I'm very paranoid. It's all about, like,
Speaker 1: you know, here's what everyone thinks of you should feel terrible.
Speaker 1: Oh no, but you also just talked about how you
Speaker 1: like a bounty of sauces, which is what I feel like.
Speaker 1: But it's also paranoia. It's like, well, you also have
Speaker 1: strong negative feelings that you wish to express recently about
Speaker 1: holiday food that you realize you actually hate holiday holiday food.
Speaker 1: I pumpkin pie has been spared my wrath, but the
Speaker 1: rest of it fu itself to be honest, Happy holidays. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what it's It's one of these weird contracts
Speaker 1: that you sign into as a human being where you
Speaker 1: agree to make the same thing everyone else. I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't have to, but I did this for a
Speaker 1: long time. You have to make it and then you
Speaker 1: have to eat that. You have to sit down and
Speaker 1: eat it for as long as it takes to finish it.
Speaker 1: And it's it's just a terrible soul crushing exercise and
Speaker 1: like being a lemming, you know, don't do it. Question reality.
Speaker 1: Make your own Christmas meal next year. I'm having duck
Speaker 1: coffee there. That sounds great with dipping sauce. Duck alla
Speaker 1: sauce exactly. Uh. This is all to say that we
Speaker 1: are doing a little bit of a clip show this week,
Speaker 1: um and going through some of our favorite nightcall moments
Speaker 1: PLO plot lines, themes, recurring recurring issues that we visited
Speaker 1: over this first year of doing our podcast, and a
Speaker 1: lot of that comes courtesy of our wonderful night callers
Speaker 1: and night calls that we get. So I think we
Speaker 1: are We all want to say thank you to our listeners.
Speaker 1: Thank you your weird stories and questions and stuff, because
Speaker 1: a lot of them went to unexpected and fun places.
Speaker 1: I think we genuinely have some of the best listen
Speaker 1: as of any podcast. They're just the most interesting. There's
Speaker 1: very little like everyone seems to have something that's so
Speaker 1: vague in common, where it's just kind of like a
Speaker 1: weird vibe that we all have in common, and it's
Speaker 1: led to super interesting discussions across I would also like
Speaker 1: to do we did a live event close to Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: this year. Maybe we can make it a Night's Giving
Speaker 1: tradition and that would be great. Have Emily next time
Speaker 1: and we'll all eat something that's not holiday food, sauces.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do sauces at every night Call event. There
Speaker 1: will be sauce. Uh, So we're gonna kind of take
Speaker 1: a little I don't. I don't think it's definitely going
Speaker 1: to be uh linear time wise, but just sort of
Speaker 1: meander through night calls, passed uh some of our favorite
Speaker 1: murder boards, ice cream trucks, and other uh familiar faces
Speaker 1: that we that we uh that we have fun with
Speaker 1: over the year. So so yeah, meditate on the past,
Speaker 1: enjoy the present, and think about the future. Hey, and
Speaker 1: I call ladies. It's eight forty four pm in Hot Austin, Texas,
Speaker 1: and I've got a question for you. My name is Maggie,
Speaker 1: and I just found out what muck bang is in
Speaker 1: the UK d A n G. It might be muke thing,
Speaker 1: and I want to know what you girls think of
Speaker 1: it because I think it's horrifying and I also feel
Speaker 1: that it's a tool that anorexics could use to you know,
Speaker 1: essentially get their fixed without eating food. UM. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: if you guys can weigh in on muck bang or
Speaker 1: muke thing, I appreciate that. Thanks by UM. I have
Speaker 1: to say that mayonnaise being killed by millennials is awful.
Speaker 1: It's a travesty. Somebody on Twitter recently UM called out
Speaker 1: the fact that like when people don't like mayonnaise and
Speaker 1: they try and put other stuff on their sandwiches. It's
Speaker 1: beyond disgusting. I think some of the substitutions that he
Speaker 1: listed were hummus, pasto also wrong. I mean, there were
Speaker 1: so many things that just can't replace mayonnaise. I would
Speaker 1: put all these things on a sandwich over mayonnaise, hummus.
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's a peda Okay, the thought of
Speaker 1: me and a peter bread just made me like throw up.
Speaker 1: I love it and seek, which is like Mayonnai's adjacent.
Speaker 1: So I know. Taziki is fine because sziki is yogurt.
Speaker 1: It's just a mayonnaise. So it's the fact that it's
Speaker 1: not dairy. It's like Uncanny Valley for a texture. It's
Speaker 1: like that. It's like gross, It's like I hate the
Speaker 1: taste of it. What about tartar sauce. It's that's the exception.
Speaker 1: That's my thing, a tartar sauce. If it's in something
Speaker 1: and I can't taste it, it's like, you know, good direction, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: if I notice it, it's bad. It's this bias that
Speaker 1: you have against what mayonnaise stands for. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: it's not It's like literally sometimes I'll try something and
Speaker 1: be like, oh no, there's mayonnaise in this. I'm out
Speaker 1: like a dip. Ruins a lot of dips for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's definitely better to air on the side.
Speaker 1: I think of yogurt or sour cream in a dip.
Speaker 1: I bet I could make you a dip with those ingredients.
Speaker 1: Sneak in some mayonnaise and you have no idea. I'm
Speaker 1: saying if you sneak in and I have no idea,
Speaker 1: that it's fine. If it's in like a deviled egg, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe it's fine. Mix up in a yoke if there's
Speaker 1: something else to like. So if you make it more
Speaker 1: mayonnaisy by adding yolk, but again, it's like something it's
Speaker 1: like swimming in mayonnaise. I'm just like swimming in anything's
Speaker 1: a bad idea. Other than the sauce. They have a
Speaker 1: dent Tai fung, which is the black vinegar and the
Speaker 1: soy sauce. And I'm just saying, there's so many other
Speaker 1: sauces that are better than your sauces. Mayonnaise like a spread,
Speaker 1: there's no time the I don't want mustard more. What
Speaker 1: kind of mustard do you like? Just like any kind really. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My parents think I'm crazy because I'm into yellow mustard.
Speaker 1: I think that's like like a like a hot dog
Speaker 1: or something. It's trashy people's mustard. They mustard. So the
Speaker 1: five mother sauces, I don't know if you have any
Speaker 1: feelings on these in French cooking on basamal, velute espanol,
Speaker 1: French tomato, sauce that has a name that I forget,
Speaker 1: and hollandaise. I mean, are you going to nix hollandaise
Speaker 1: because it's too much like mayonnaise? No? I like hollandaise.
Speaker 1: You're such an enigma. I don't know where you're coming from.
Speaker 1: Half I have it on eggpned act. I've made it.
Speaker 1: I feel like I went through a so you can
Speaker 1: make it in the microwave. Um. I like mustard the most.
Speaker 1: I think mustard does the most. Word limited capacity for mustard.
Speaker 1: I did you turn on soy sauce? Thought that was
Speaker 1: your favorite favorite sauces? My favorite sauce, but also ponds.
Speaker 1: When you have pondzo, all of a sudden, you're like,
Speaker 1: soy sauce is pretty basic. Where do you fall and
Speaker 1: catch up? I like catch up, okay, but I do
Speaker 1: not accept any ketchup, but Hines every other ketchup tastes whack.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. It's something they're sweetness. Sugar ratios
Speaker 1: are off on other people's Can I mention for anyone
Speaker 1: in l A that one of the sauces that I'm
Speaker 1: really addicted to right now is from Dave's Hot Chicken,
Speaker 1: and they have like this really it makes your heart race, though,
Speaker 1: which is like, I'm sure because there's a lot of
Speaker 1: salt in it, it must be that. But well I
Speaker 1: was I wasn't going to bring it up, but yeah,
Speaker 1: you did. You you drank a bunch of Sayce shauce
Speaker 1: and then you get really concerned that you were going
Speaker 1: to die, and you you get too sliders and they're huge,
Speaker 1: and then you get like a bunch of tubs of
Speaker 1: sauces because you take and take, and then you go
Speaker 1: home and like fifteen minutes later, you're sweating your heart.
Speaker 1: Is a lot of salt in everything good, It's true.
Speaker 1: I love the Zancou garlic sauce, the Zancu chicken they
Speaker 1: have that. It's like basically the same thing that you
Speaker 1: can get a trader ship Si garly spread. Well, that's
Speaker 1: like when you get fried clams, and you have the
Speaker 1: cocktail sauce and the tartar sauce, and you can like alternate.
Speaker 1: I always go for the cocktail sauce though, and that
Speaker 1: now you got alternate, yeah, or because the cocktail sauce
Speaker 1: eventually it's too if you just alternate with the cocktail
Speaker 1: sauce and like vinegar vinegar, you need to like I
Speaker 1: like to like pickly, the pickly smooth, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. The pick smooth get sponsored by Hines Tartar sauce. Seriously, No,
Speaker 1: well honestly, so he just Hi, I'm very behind and
Speaker 1: I'm just now listening to you guys talk about whales
Speaker 1: and how whales came from the land, which is creepy.
Speaker 1: But then he talked about hippos and had to call
Speaker 1: in because, um, I'm obsessed with the story of hippos
Speaker 1: moving to Columbia, so you should definitely look it up.
Speaker 1: But Pablo Escobar had a weird zoo on his property
Speaker 1: and he had all these hippos brought from Africa, and
Speaker 1: when he was arrested, they started escaping. And now Colombia
Speaker 1: has all of these hiccos and it's like exactly the
Speaker 1: same climate of Africa, but without the drought. So they're
Speaker 1: becoming the dominant predator. And everyone thinks HIPOs are cute
Speaker 1: and cuddly, just like Carvel died, but actually they are
Speaker 1: dangerous and terrifying. And I think like the second or
Speaker 1: third most like deadly credittor. So it's a huge problem
Speaker 1: and Columbia doesn't want to kill them because Columbia has
Speaker 1: reputation problems, and so it's just becoming this like epic
Speaker 1: problem and they're just everywhere and it's an amazing story.
Speaker 1: And I just thought you guys should know, so happy
Speaker 1: nightcall the side note. UM. Like very shortly after I
Speaker 1: got married, UM, I bought my first pair of Teva's
Speaker 1: UM and I feel like this, like this transformation took
Speaker 1: place over the course of one week where I'm like,
Speaker 1: I love my Tevas. I'm gonna go be a tourist
Speaker 1: and wearing my squashy sandals. You entered the mode seriously
Speaker 1: because like when it's raining that much, you can't even
Speaker 1: really wear boots because they'll just get inside the boot.
Speaker 1: So I just thought, why fight it, Just be barefoot
Speaker 1: and let the water wash over. You became a forest crab. Yourself.
Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, I I became slightly amphibious. So we
Speaker 1: were leaving non Zenji, which is this huge Buddhist temple,
Speaker 1: and of course as we're leaving, like the five pm
Speaker 1: was the closing time, so we couldn't be inside anymore,
Speaker 1: and then it just starts pouring down rain. So we
Speaker 1: were just like running, like bolting down this path um
Speaker 1: trying to get back to the subway, which basically took
Speaker 1: an hour because it would start to lighten up and
Speaker 1: then we'd start walking and then I would start pouring
Speaker 1: again and we'd like find shelter under the nearest thing.
Speaker 1: But we're staying outside of Kyoto in this um like
Speaker 1: a yokam which is like the kind of a bed
Speaker 1: and breakfast, like the Japanese version of a bed and breakfast,
Speaker 1: and the one we stayed as like they had this
Speaker 1: river side thing where they turned off all the lights
Speaker 1: at a certain points so you could see the fireflies,
Speaker 1: which was so funny because it reminded of you me,
Speaker 1: of you, Molly, because there were like three fireflies on
Speaker 1: the river when I saw the firefly in New York.
Speaker 1: And yeah, well I think I've said this before, but
Speaker 1: this is like a lot of l A kids I
Speaker 1: know have this thing. We're the only place we've ever
Speaker 1: seen fireflies is on Pirates of the Caribbean. Yes, you
Speaker 1: know at this bed and breakfast, did you have to
Speaker 1: have communal breakfast and dinner? Um? Yes, it's very old school.
Speaker 1: Communal tables are tests worst nightmare. You don't have to
Speaker 1: talk to anybody else there except this this place. Like
Speaker 1: many of these types of super traditional like I would say,
Speaker 1: like fancy Rio cons had Geisha's, Like they come through
Speaker 1: and they like perform some kind of dance or whatever.
Speaker 1: But then they come through and they talk like to
Speaker 1: each table and you have to talk to them and
Speaker 1: you have to talk to them. It's like one of
Speaker 1: them that came through and talked, she spoke a little
Speaker 1: more English and it was okay, But then those of
Speaker 1: them mostly don't, and so I was speaking to them
Speaker 1: in Japanese and my Japanese is really bad. I would
Speaker 1: rather be at a communal table with other people who
Speaker 1: are staying than than with what did you guys talk about? Like, oh,
Speaker 1: where are you from? And I found it to be
Speaker 1: supremely awkward. But like the drunk businessmen who were there
Speaker 1: for dinner, gotta gotta kick out of it. So this
Speaker 1: campaign was started a few years ago in Kyoto to
Speaker 1: get more people to use public transportation and to use
Speaker 1: the subway. They decided like the best tactic to attract
Speaker 1: people to the subway would be to make like cute
Speaker 1: anome girl mascots for the train. And so it's called
Speaker 1: like the Moe Moe Kyoto like campaign. UM, and they
Speaker 1: have like they have this full cast of characters. UM.
Speaker 1: And there's uh, like the main or all she has
Speaker 1: like a brother, and then another one of her friends
Speaker 1: as a brother, and they're all these bios for them.
Speaker 1: And I think they made some kind of short animation,
Speaker 1: but it's just hilarious because like all of the subways
Speaker 1: are plastered with these ads of like these cute autome
Speaker 1: girls like holding their their subway passes and like showing
Speaker 1: how cool and cute it is to have a subway.
Speaker 1: Doesn't work? Did people ride the subway more? I guess.
Speaker 1: I guess it's been successful because they've kept it up.
Speaker 1: Somebody at this who works for the city get characters.
Speaker 1: But there's one of the guys who's like kind of
Speaker 1: like a jockish guy wearing a pink Cootie is named
Speaker 1: Takeru and says Takara attended the same high school as
Speaker 1: Rio and his best friend, who's like the other boy there.
Speaker 1: He has an easy going and optimistic side. After graduating
Speaker 1: from high school, his desire to become a breadmaker let
Speaker 1: him to study at a bakery in Kyoto. He likes
Speaker 1: how people can buy bread around Kyoto's subway stations. Now
Speaker 1: I'm just picturing somebody riding the train and falling in
Speaker 1: love with one of these characters. Hey, I think I
Speaker 1: called the right number. Dylan leaving you and night call
Speaker 1: Um so something about targeted ads. I said something about
Speaker 1: how I was very exset that there's a new Coke.
Speaker 1: It's Coke zero, replacing the old perfect Pope zero. And
Speaker 1: then I got an ad on Twitter that was like, Dylan,
Speaker 1: there's someone else in Austin had an Austin, Uh, someone
Speaker 1: else not and named Chris or something who also didn't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't writing for the new Coke zero to come out,
Speaker 1: but look at this video we made that convinced them.
Speaker 1: And that was when I threw my phone into the ocean,
Speaker 1: and uh, I'm calling you from a tin camp. No,
Speaker 1: but you know it's like the things I find charming
Speaker 1: up at it are like the fandoms and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Fandom for Disneyland has always been like, by far the
Speaker 1: best Disneyland fandom. Yeah. I've never been a bad stay,
Speaker 1: but I did. I did grow up golf. I started
Speaker 1: dyeing my hair black at like twelve, and my have
Speaker 1: very curly hair, and my sisters would sing share songs
Speaker 1: to me to Tommy and I was like, no, Ali,
Speaker 1: why were you so golf? You know, I grew up
Speaker 1: in this town that was wealthier than we were but
Speaker 1: had good schools, and so there were people like like
Speaker 1: Hill the guard in my high school and I transferred
Speaker 1: there in sixth grades and I's like, you've never been
Speaker 1: to a Benetton store. You don't have anything Benetiti Like no,
Speaker 1: And so I think I just was like, well fucked,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna assimilate that way. So
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go head the other direction. So I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I only wear old military things
Speaker 1: I get from just from thrift stores. Before you know,
Speaker 1: it's a slippery slope. You're wearing black eyeliners, lips it
Speaker 1: you guys, how long? How long? Was this period of
Speaker 1: your life, probably like thirteen to like two commitment. I know,
Speaker 1: I went to l A and was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: guess it doesn't work here. It's just it's the best
Speaker 1: place to be a goth. I didn't know that I
Speaker 1: didn't find my people yet. I I remember I drove
Speaker 1: down to like go to Helter Skelter a couple of
Speaker 1: times when I was like in college, but I never
Speaker 1: went to a bad day, but it always I found
Speaker 1: it very endearing that so many goths would congregate in
Speaker 1: the daylight, because that is not what of course, that's
Speaker 1: not so many parasols. Yeah, I love that picture of
Speaker 1: the Cure at the beach. I've never stayed it. It's
Speaker 1: so funny. They're the Cure, but they're at the beach
Speaker 1: and they look so uncomfortable. I think it's so amazing. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that to me is like the so called so
Speaker 1: because I'll go I think there is a thing where
Speaker 1: people go in this beach goth direction where you're like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to wear all the clothes, because who expects
Speaker 1: that in a hundred degree at least of all you
Speaker 1: wearing all the clothes. That's what I mean. It's hard
Speaker 1: to be golf here because it's like, what do you do?
Speaker 1: Like the black tank talk just like pastel goth. I mean,
Speaker 1: my real the real reason I could never be a
Speaker 1: golf because I tried. I tried in seventh grade. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna be golf, but I like, I
Speaker 1: don't like wearing black, And every time I wear black,
Speaker 1: I'm like this is I always feel like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to go to a coral performance. Yeah, there's some
Speaker 1: of that. I mean I was like a closet goth
Speaker 1: kind of in a very literal sense, Like I had
Speaker 1: a closet that had a bunch of goth stuff in
Speaker 1: it that was no, by no means my daily wardrobe.
Speaker 1: But everyone but I had a closet. I did have
Speaker 1: a goth closet. I had like knee high lace up
Speaker 1: boots that were like pointy and had like a heel
Speaker 1: that I couldn't walk in. I had all these like
Speaker 1: black petticoats and like, uh, like anything that my grandma
Speaker 1: had that I could take, like inherited from her that
Speaker 1: was black. I would take so all this sort of
Speaker 1: like decrepit lacy ship and every once in a I
Speaker 1: would have a Goth Day, which was always a great
Speaker 1: uh source of self expression. I think I wanted to
Speaker 1: be able to commit more to being a goth, but
Speaker 1: I also wanted to like do other things too. But
Speaker 1: gods hate Halloween just because there are a lot of
Speaker 1: people who are like looking gods today and you're like
Speaker 1: every day. It was always like I remember I was
Speaker 1: in college, my first year of college, and I walked
Speaker 1: into my dorm room and my not gothroommate was wearing
Speaker 1: all of my clothes and she's like from Lueena, I'm
Speaker 1: you but sexy, and like, well, I wasn't burgit and
Speaker 1: I did gathering a lot, so she had a point.
Speaker 1: I was no way, I wore a lot of Nobody
Speaker 1: got laid more in college than the people who played
Speaker 1: magic the gathering, at least in our calls true. The
Speaker 1: Larbers had like the biggest sex scene. They were all
Speaker 1: every weekend too. It was like, you have no plans,
Speaker 1: but the Larbers do are not invited. That's exactly what
Speaker 1: you lar people is like the most uninhibited thing you
Speaker 1: can do in public in a group. I feel like
Speaker 1: it's a really good pre cursor to sex. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: so it's Nicole from It's Happening with Snooky and Joey
Speaker 1: and I have a night call for you guys. So
Speaker 1: I totally believe in aliens and I always have this
Speaker 1: presence of aliens in my house. I know it sounds crazy,
Speaker 1: but um, the Grays I've always been not like attracted to,
Speaker 1: but always like interested in UM, and I always feel
Speaker 1: like there's alien presence around me ever since I was little.
Speaker 1: So can you tell me about the Grays and what
Speaker 1: I've been feeling. Some people preprogrammed their mixes, especially people
Speaker 1: who play like big shows like that all the time,
Speaker 1: but also you know more to just have the ghost
Speaker 1: DJ just like personally, I'm going to keep the dream
Speaker 1: of DJ polly D alive because, like I could, Poldy
Speaker 1: might really know how to spend I think, you know, listen,
Speaker 1: he has that Italian flag laptop, like I think he
Speaker 1: knows what's going on. You all love DJ Poldy, and
Speaker 1: then he knows how to beat match. I would have
Speaker 1: sex with him, like it wouldn't take anything, It would
Speaker 1: take no effort on his I'm just saying, you know,
Speaker 1: Nicole called into the pod, so we do have a
Speaker 1: I saw that I need to listen to that. I'm
Speaker 1: a poky Tell your aliens to send DJ pod to
Speaker 1: night call. Yes, tell um snooky. You can tell pold
Speaker 1: that I have been to Italy. And even though I'm
Speaker 1: not Italian, I was raised Catholic and I am d
Speaker 1: t F. I live in Los Angeles. I'm easy to find. Hey,
Speaker 1: and I call. This is Kate. I'm calling with a
Speaker 1: spooky story for you. That's something that has happened to
Speaker 1: me recently, in the past couple of weeks, probably two weeks. Uh,
Speaker 1: I've been getting calls from a private number, so I
Speaker 1: assume someone who has I think Stars sixty seven the number,
Speaker 1: so I can't see the numbers. It's private blocked. And
Speaker 1: the first couple of times I missed it or ignored
Speaker 1: it because who answers private numbers? Um, it never left
Speaker 1: a message. Uh. Then finally I picked it up. I
Speaker 1: was in a car with some times and I put
Speaker 1: on speaker just to be like, what's going on. And
Speaker 1: the first thing I hear is Hello, like the ice
Speaker 1: cream truck thing. That voice that like Hello, and then
Speaker 1: it starts with an ice cream truck song. I can't
Speaker 1: remember if it's the Scott Joplin song or um, do
Speaker 1: your ears hanging low or whatever? But anyways, the recording
Speaker 1: of ice cream Truck and it just loops. Um. So
Speaker 1: obviously I was pretty freaked out. UM. And I kept
Speaker 1: getting the calls for the next couple of days and
Speaker 1: I only answered it like one or two more a
Speaker 1: few more times um, but each time it was the
Speaker 1: exact same thing, and luckily it just um. So then
Speaker 1: I just started ignoring them obviously UM. And it never
Speaker 1: left a message. Uh. So that was the biggest blessing
Speaker 1: because I hate voicemails, especially creepy I scream truck loops um.
Speaker 1: But so this got me thinking, Uh, if you all
Speaker 1: have ever had an experience that made you feel like
Speaker 1: you are actually trapped in a horror film? Um. But
Speaker 1: luckily the calls had actually stopped. UM. I almost hesitated
Speaker 1: to make this call because I didn't want to drink
Speaker 1: for anything. So anyway, that's my spooky story. UM, and
Speaker 1: let me know what you think. Okay, bye. He called
Speaker 1: us with a night call about how she was getting
Speaker 1: mysterious calls from ice Cream Truck that would say hello, Hello,
Speaker 1: Hello scary ice cream truck and she didn't know why.
Speaker 1: And we heard about it a lot. A lot of
Speaker 1: people suggested to reply all article episode that implied it
Speaker 1: was a scam. We were waiting to see if we
Speaker 1: would ever find out, and now we found out, Tess,
Speaker 1: would you like to do the honors? I would love to.
Speaker 1: This comes from Kate. Hey nightcall per your request. I
Speaker 1: called back and left another message explaining what happened. Here's
Speaker 1: a backup email in case my call cuts out again.
Speaker 1: I'm in a rural area sometimes services bad. We're relying
Speaker 1: on the email because right because she called back and
Speaker 1: it got cut off. That's why we were like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're never going to find out. But no, Okay, go on, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: back to Kay. The big reveal came as I was
Speaker 1: leaving New Orleans a few weeks ago. Some friends came
Speaker 1: over to say goodbye, and when they said we have
Speaker 1: something to confess, I realized immediately the day where the
Speaker 1: ice cream truck ghost. They would call me number blocked
Speaker 1: and hold the phone up to this YouTube video which
Speaker 1: she links. I had apparently mentioned to them in passing
Speaker 1: several months ago that I used to live near an
Speaker 1: ice cream truck deep depot in Brooklyn in Bushwick, off
Speaker 1: the Morgan l stop, so I would often hear the
Speaker 1: hello and the songs from my window. I probably should
Speaker 1: have placed this together, but instead I spun out an
Speaker 1: elaborate and terrifying theory in my head story of my life. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm relieved it was just my friends being goofy. However,
Speaker 1: I still believe that ice that ice cream trucks are
Speaker 1: deeply haunted. Wow, so it's interesting. Yeah, everybody, we got
Speaker 1: like fifteen emails or something UM suggesting we listened to
Speaker 1: this reply All episode, but there were differences between what
Speaker 1: Keith had originally described and this scam that they looked
Speaker 1: into on reply All, which I obviously is such a
Speaker 1: good podcast and you should listen to um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was it was just a friends punking her right,
Speaker 1: which is also scary. It is kind of scary. But
Speaker 1: it's funny that you would mention something haunting and then
Speaker 1: forget it, because that's totally something that I could picture.
Speaker 1: It's really funny you would forget mentioning that you lived
Speaker 1: next to an ice cream truck depot. Yeah, that's awesome
Speaker 1: because hilarious and awesome, but also it makes more sense
Speaker 1: that way because it's such a specific Brooklyn everybody in
Speaker 1: Brooklyn is like, oh, yes, the ice cream truck that
Speaker 1: goes hello. This next night call is from a true
Speaker 1: stand Hi. I'm Emily's mom, and I remember two thousand
Speaker 1: eight because Emily and I went on a road trip
Speaker 1: across the country from Arkansas to Washington State. So that's
Speaker 1: all I was going to share some details about that.
Speaker 1: Followers that know us from the hoodies days have definitely
Speaker 1: heard us at least make threats to a big chill
Speaker 1: uh special. I liked this movie. It was sad. Why sad? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it wasn't sad. I don't know. It
Speaker 1: was definitely less like peak eighties than I was expecting.
Speaker 1: I realized, like as I was watching it, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is like three this is kind of like almost
Speaker 1: still a seventies movie. It's just kind of like a
Speaker 1: story about some people with some problems. It's very much
Speaker 1: like Play. Yeah, it is a it's a total play.
Speaker 1: And I thought it was also it's kind of like
Speaker 1: a loose remake of Rules of the Game. He said, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's like a French country estate, but it's just like
Speaker 1: a you know, a country house and some white yuppies
Speaker 1: who are having a lot of issues, but having fun
Speaker 1: having their issue. Well, Okay, this is what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say is I thought the reason I thought it wasn't
Speaker 1: maybe depressing because I was like, is this like an
Speaker 1: upbeat ending spoiler alert, like everybody has sex at the
Speaker 1: end during like a lightning storm. This movie is very horny. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was like, this movie is sort of
Speaker 1: like it's like, at first, it's all sad about like
Speaker 1: you've made all your choices and you're stuck now in
Speaker 1: your life forever with your like boring life that you chose. Um,
Speaker 1: nothing like the fun life you thought you were going
Speaker 1: to have when you were a hippie living in a
Speaker 1: co op with your cool friends, and now you're confronting
Speaker 1: it in a funeral scenario. But then at the end,
Speaker 1: it's like everybody kind of is like, oh, actually, we
Speaker 1: still can change our minds about stuff still and like
Speaker 1: let your friend's husband knock you up, which is yeah,
Speaker 1: that is one of the few really wild plot points.
Speaker 1: I think that's is that the transformative moment though, that
Speaker 1: like when when everybody realizes they still have that good
Speaker 1: old hippie community, like we're going to make a baby
Speaker 1: together as like a friend. But then there's also the
Speaker 1: fact that Nick, who's William hurt Um, decides to stay
Speaker 1: in the house with Chloe's. It is the Haunting of
Speaker 1: Chill House. Yep. Is make Tilly like always always doing
Speaker 1: stretches and like like doing contortions and a leotard because
Speaker 1: she's young and flexible. Yeah, of course, because it's to
Speaker 1: show that it's the eighties. Well, I mean like flexible
Speaker 1: metaphorically she's doing more like you know, Well, they don't really,
Speaker 1: It's funny. They feel like they include her. They're not
Speaker 1: like mean to her just because she's like the young
Speaker 1: I mean, Glenn Close is giving her some side eye.
Speaker 1: But I think at one point Meg Tilly's character Chloe,
Speaker 1: they're all like waxing nostalgic, and then they asked her
Speaker 1: about her past and she's like, oh, I don't really
Speaker 1: talk about the past because I right about it as
Speaker 1: much as you guys. So she kind of represents the
Speaker 1: like she's not nostalgic yet because she's still at a
Speaker 1: point where she's still like idealistic and anything can happen
Speaker 1: in her life and like she's just enjoying her twic.
Speaker 1: It feels like she's more she doesn't have a tight
Speaker 1: group of friends though like they do. She's yeah, she's
Speaker 1: a drifter. She's like seems like she's just dated a
Speaker 1: series of older men, and like she says something to
Speaker 1: the effect of, I don't know that many happy people
Speaker 1: or something like that. I think she's secretly the greatest character.
Speaker 1: But she is a great character. And like the leotard
Speaker 1: that she's doing, the stretches and at the beginning is
Speaker 1: like very specifically such an eighties leotar, like put me
Speaker 1: in a weird state of mind. Can you imagine how
Speaker 1: hard it would be to pee if you were wearing
Speaker 1: a leotard overtights? I mean, I remember how hard it was,
Speaker 1: and yet everyone did. Um. I was saying to tests,
Speaker 1: I found all of the men in this movie very attractive.
Speaker 1: Who most? Who most? Uh, Well, you know I know
Speaker 1: that it's just like a basic take to be attracted
Speaker 1: to Jeff Goldbloom, But I was never a person who
Speaker 1: was attracted to Jeff Goldbloom for many years, and like
Speaker 1: suddenly I was like, Jeff Goldbloom, Wow, what a charming guy,
Speaker 1: very good at taking imaginary phone calls and movies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you who I was most attracted to, and
Speaker 1: that would be Mary kay Place. Oh well, Mary Kay Place,
Speaker 1: Mary Kay play is the Mary Yeah. And then there's
Speaker 1: William Hurt obviously Nick Carleton, who's a veteran. He is
Speaker 1: a Vietnam vet. He he cannot get a boner or
Speaker 1: something or or doesn't I don't know my humpand is
Speaker 1: like his dick was blown off? Is that it is
Speaker 1: not really, but I was envisioning the like born on
Speaker 1: the fourth of July, like pulling your tube out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's something, that's what I imagine. And chee um. He
Speaker 1: also does a lot of drugs and oh yeah. I
Speaker 1: find him to be the least attractive in this film.
Speaker 1: He's a babe though still u mannerisms wise and the
Speaker 1: dryness of his his sense of humor. He is number
Speaker 1: one babe. Not not exactly, but I like st interesting,
Speaker 1: stoic babe. So hey, friends, it's one fifteen in the
Speaker 1: morning on a Tuesday, which in my life means them
Speaker 1: just finished up with tabletop RPG night during the week
Speaker 1: and return home, occasionally scouring the Internet for new ideas
Speaker 1: or games we might play in the future. H and
Speaker 1: stumbled upon a post from a ready user of funnel
Speaker 1: that is a Frazier RPG tabletop RPG entitled Boss, Dragons
Speaker 1: and Scrambled Eggs. Obviously, I thought the three of you
Speaker 1: and whether or not you've had any experience with tabletop arges,
Speaker 1: and if so, if you'd be interested in playing an
Speaker 1: RPG with Niles Frasier, Lilith and Daphne have a have
Speaker 1: a good e thing. What guys would you like to
Speaker 1: read some passages from Kelsey Grammer's So Far And thank
Speaker 1: you very much to Ben for compiling these. This is
Speaker 1: this is he is our ros. He just spent like
Speaker 1: two hours skimming through this book, the Book of so
Speaker 1: Far dot dot dot. Years after my sister had died,
Speaker 1: a friend of hers told me this story. One night.
Speaker 1: She and Karen had been talking of life and family
Speaker 1: and where we all were going. Karen stopped and thought
Speaker 1: for a minute and then said, I'm not so sure
Speaker 1: about myself, but I do know this Kelsey's to do
Speaker 1: it all. So I dedicate this book to Karen A
Speaker 1: Lisa Grammar. Karen, if I haven't done at all, I
Speaker 1: promise I will still keep trying. That's pretty that's pretty exemplary.
Speaker 1: He was like it's like everyone in his life is
Speaker 1: like Kelsey, you are the greatest man, who were the
Speaker 1: Golden Child? Like I know, I know, I'm wondering. Here's
Speaker 1: here's the story of how Kelsey got cast on Cheers,
Speaker 1: and it's called Weirdness in Kelsey's Life by our producer band.
Speaker 1: They looked at stand up comics, and they looked at actors,
Speaker 1: and then they found me. They found me because every
Speaker 1: moment of my life led them to finding me where
Speaker 1: the strands of causality are most visible. They found me
Speaker 1: because I had been in the Stephen Sondheim musical called
Speaker 1: Sunday in the Park with George, and that was weird.
Speaker 1: I use this word advisedly to the to that point
Speaker 1: my life had included had such weirdness as the murder
Speaker 1: of my father, the rape and murder of my beloved
Speaker 1: and only sister, the drowning deaths of my two half brothers,
Speaker 1: and a marriage that went south even before the ceremony.
Speaker 1: But it was definitely weird that I ever got to
Speaker 1: sing on stage in New York because the thing of
Speaker 1: it was when I was chosen for Sunday in the
Speaker 1: Park with George, I was in my late twenties and
Speaker 1: I hadn't sung since I was in high school. What weird?
Speaker 1: Anywhere near what? I was looking that my friend listened
Speaker 1: to the rest of the book on her drive back.
Speaker 1: You want to, I want to hear everything, just that
Speaker 1: it was bananas. Yeah, I recommend uh listening to the
Speaker 1: audio book. I wanted to draw your attention to this
Speaker 1: Fox interview with a pair of Harvard Divinity School researchers
Speaker 1: who published a paper in that suggested that millennials are
Speaker 1: substituting CrossFit and soul cycle for traditional organized religions. I
Speaker 1: know you have a particular affinity for the occult, and
Speaker 1: while this maybe it's exact opposite, it may hold some
Speaker 1: interest for you for that very reason. It feels like
Speaker 1: another instance of new businesses filling the vacuum created by
Speaker 1: the loss of old institutions. Guys, well as a person
Speaker 1: who's as I was saying, my favorite, um, my favorite
Speaker 1: hot take on everything is it's church. A Star is Born.
Speaker 1: We all saw Stars Born. Emily saw it first at
Speaker 1: a film festival, and then we all saw it when
Speaker 1: it came out in theaters. And the only moment that
Speaker 1: made me feel something very deeply in that film spoiler
Speaker 1: spoiler was when he wet his pants at the Grammys
Speaker 1: and I got down in my seat, I like hunkered down,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know I was going to cross. I
Speaker 1: was just very I was like really disturbed, and it
Speaker 1: was a good, good scene. It's funny because, like, having
Speaker 1: watched all the other versions, like I knew that was coming,
Speaker 1: and yet when it happened, when they got up to like, oh,
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, she's going to win the Grammy
Speaker 1: and then he's going to get on speed on stage
Speaker 1: and make the speech, because that's what happens in every version. Um.
Speaker 1: And then when he wasn't talking, he just kind of
Speaker 1: stood there. I was like, it started falling asleep. He's
Speaker 1: going to piss himself. You knew you, Yes, I did.
Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of foreshadowing in that movie. There's
Speaker 1: there's a there's an actual shot drink like a whole
Speaker 1: bottle of water before he went on, you know, she said.
Speaker 1: As he sits down, He's like, I was trying to
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom, but somebody like rushed me down
Speaker 1: to the seat. I didn't know that. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: like they pulled me out of the bathroom or something, Molly,
Speaker 1: how does that play out in the other versions? Like,
Speaker 1: what's that scene? Like? In every version, it's that she
Speaker 1: finally gets like, you know, she's becoming a star, and
Speaker 1: she went toward her career the award of her career
Speaker 1: and he's won it before and then he gets up
Speaker 1: there and just like like ruins it by being so embarrassing. Hey,
Speaker 1: and i'd call. It's five fifty one in upstate New
Speaker 1: York and I'm doing one of my favorite things, which
Speaker 1: is walking my dog and listening to your podcast. And
Speaker 1: the one I'm listening to today is the discussion about
Speaker 1: that cremins cookies. And it made me think of something
Speaker 1: my wife has joked about for the last five years,
Speaker 1: ever since are previous dog died, which is eating his
Speaker 1: cremains and not you know, like a whole bowl of
Speaker 1: ask like a GPS thinking into it and be done
Speaker 1: with it. She's joking she hasn't done it yet, but
Speaker 1: you can all discussed whether it's better or worse if
Speaker 1: it's the family member or not. And I'm asking if
Speaker 1: it's better or worse if it's a pet. So anyway,
Speaker 1: happy nightcall there there might be ghost tapping me on
Speaker 1: the shoulder all the time right now, and and I'm
Speaker 1: just missing them. But it's been a long time. I
Speaker 1: feel like we don't have enough time to go over
Speaker 1: all of which is really saying something like that's impressive
Speaker 1: in and of itself, But we had a few that
Speaker 1: we definitely wanted to hear from you. Maybe in ascending
Speaker 1: order of spookiness, maybe we can get some spooky sound
Speaker 1: effects under this. Yeah, I didn't bring my own. So
Speaker 1: if you go to the Brand Library in Glendale, UM,
Speaker 1: and there's a path if you go there at night,
Speaker 1: there's a path that leads up into the hills behind
Speaker 1: it UM and if you get you you go up
Speaker 1: you You walk up that path about fifteen minutes and
Speaker 1: you'll see a small, a little trail that goes off
Speaker 1: it and you'll notice when you go down the trail
Speaker 1: that the temperature or suddenly drops and you come to
Speaker 1: a wrought iron gate enclosing the purity way. Up in
Speaker 1: the mountains, there's a pyramid. There's a stone pyramid about
Speaker 1: fifty high uh in the hills above above Glendale. It
Speaker 1: is the Brand family, and I believe the Brand family
Speaker 1: built Glendene there. I have you guys been there it
Speaker 1: is so spooky. Have you been there? Know? How? When
Speaker 1: you come soon we will go and there's a chair
Speaker 1: amid is what we're going to get to. And everybody
Speaker 1: I know who goes there says it's like the weirdest place,
Speaker 1: and what this is? How weird it was for my friends,
Speaker 1: for whom I went there and told me the story
Speaker 1: together and swear by it. Uh So you go there
Speaker 1: at night and the gate is closed, you have to
Speaker 1: climb over it. And they came in and they brought
Speaker 1: a wigie board, so they climb over it. They feel
Speaker 1: very weird. They sit down, they put the disc on
Speaker 1: the wigie board and it just starts spitting by itself.
Speaker 1: It starts spitting wildly, and then they are in the
Speaker 1: car in their car on the freeway driving home. Just
Speaker 1: like a time leap. They all lost the time in between. Yes,
Speaker 1: didn't they get rid of the Wegi board. I don't
Speaker 1: know if the wei if the Wegi board was with
Speaker 1: them still interesting, it might still be there. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: go getting you guys. Let's go, or let's just bring
Speaker 1: another one that offering another demon story. Yeah, number three,
Speaker 1: So I was not the one that I thought you
Speaker 1: were going to tell, so I'm very curious. The one
Speaker 1: you I remember you telling me at Italy was about um,
Speaker 1: it was like somebody said that you had somebody said
Speaker 1: that you had opened up your near soul to a
Speaker 1: ghost flotter. The Wegi board that was at the haunted
Speaker 1: coffee shop, and wait, wait, the All Star cafe that
Speaker 1: used to be in the Knickerbocker Hotel in front of
Speaker 1: which d W. Griffith died. Um uh the Knicker I
Speaker 1: think the hotel has been bought by scientology now when
Speaker 1: the cafe doesn't just anymore. But uh uh. They claimed
Speaker 1: it was very haunted, and they had a Wigi board,
Speaker 1: and my friend and I were, uh, we're playing with this,
Speaker 1: the Ouiji board, and the boards we started telling us things,
Speaker 1: horrible things we're gonna happen to our friends. It's sort
Speaker 1: of it was. It was spelling very It was the
Speaker 1: quickest Ofuigi board has ever worked for me. I was
Speaker 1: saying like one front of her is gonna die at
Speaker 1: a car accident and other it was like but it
Speaker 1: was it was kind of like jokey horrible things. But uh.
Speaker 1: We asked him who he was and he said he
Speaker 1: was a nine year old boy named named Max and
Speaker 1: I spelled that and as we were leaving, um, we
Speaker 1: said to the owner and a he says, do you
Speaker 1: get anything on the weigi boards? So yeah, someone was
Speaker 1: really great and they're like, oh, was it Max the
Speaker 1: nine year old? What wait, we're a ton of people
Speaker 1: bringing gigi boards to the coffee shop. There was never
Speaker 1: a ton of people in that they had a Weiji
Speaker 1: board there, so it might have been weird. Yeah. At
Speaker 1: around the time that that that happened. And uh, talking
Speaker 1: about friends with their brand cemetery experience, I was at
Speaker 1: a dinner, a group dinner, and there was this, uh,
Speaker 1: there was this old Native American gentleman. This is the
Speaker 1: story I think that you know, it was sort of
Speaker 1: sort of a shaman type, uh self styled shaman, but
Speaker 1: a lot of people held him in very high regard.
Speaker 1: But I started chatting about these ghosts experiences and he
Speaker 1: looked at me and he said, he said, you shouldn't
Speaker 1: be fooling with this, and and I was like, uh,
Speaker 1: it's not you know, just having fun with the work.
Speaker 1: Kids will be kids. What are you what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? And he kind of looked it was like
Speaker 1: looking in the space around me, and he's like, you're
Speaker 1: opening yourself up to the spirits and I was. I said, well,
Speaker 1: they're welcome to come visit. I don't don't know anything
Speaker 1: against them. He looked at me more and he slammed
Speaker 1: his fifth pounds. No, you are a coffee cup. Your
Speaker 1: coffee cup is empty. The spirits are coffee that coffee
Speaker 1: wants to be in a cup. That is what you're doing.
Speaker 1: So you guys finally got around to seeing Phantom Thread. Um,
Speaker 1: tell me about your experience. Well, now I have an
Speaker 1: excuse to post the caption give me thread till I'm
Speaker 1: dead that I've been planning. I'm gonna let test take it.
Speaker 1: Don't do this test encouragement. Um. I have a lot
Speaker 1: of good things to say about Phantom Thread, things I liked,
Speaker 1: But in the end, I'm going to say that I
Speaker 1: probably liked it the least of all of us. Um.
Speaker 1: Two of my favorite scenes that I thought made it
Speaker 1: a great movie for me alone was the dunking of
Speaker 1: a spear of asparagus into congealed butter, the sound effects
Speaker 1: of eating. I love all of these things. And then, um,
Speaker 1: there was an exchange between between the House of Woodcock
Speaker 1: get it together together the look. I thought it was
Speaker 1: a very very funny movie. I thought it was beautiful
Speaker 1: and very luscious. And I also was kind of like,
Speaker 1: I don't care that I don't care very much about
Speaker 1: the relationship between a narcissistic artist and his muse. Molly's
Speaker 1: sitting here like gleefully. She loved I loved. I loved it.
Speaker 1: And then I went home and I made a list
Speaker 1: of the first time I've taken notes for the podcast.
Speaker 1: Like to read, like to read my notes Phantom thread notes. Uh,
Speaker 1: eyes wide shut is my first note. My second note
Speaker 1: is Sam and Diane Um The Phantom of the Opera,
Speaker 1: Preda Porte, Wuthering Heights. Those are my notes, Preda Porte,
Speaker 1: the Altman film. Yeah, oh my god, let's bring it
Speaker 1: back the most. It's so good. Yeah, no, it is
Speaker 1: what it is. How would you describe your your your
Speaker 1: feeling after leaving the movie, because I had a very
Speaker 1: particular one. I mean, you said you really needed a
Speaker 1: stiff drink. We really needed a stiff drink in like
Speaker 1: the middle, a stiff drink break. It does make you.
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about it in terms of mother
Speaker 1: a lot too. Because I was like are you more
Speaker 1: less stressed out than you were? Ordering Mother and Das
Speaker 1: was like, I'm less stressed out, but I'm also like
Speaker 1: less engaged. Huh interesting, So I see. I think these
Speaker 1: two movies are so like they hit a lot of
Speaker 1: the same themes in a way that I think it's
Speaker 1: like it's very fortuitous that we are doing them back
Speaker 1: to back, um, because yeah, it's like this this very
Speaker 1: particular the this domineering creative male persona and his wife
Speaker 1: slash partner slash muse living with him. But who else
Speaker 1: relates to the dominating male persona? Why? That's one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why I had to like go take a
Speaker 1: drink afterwards, because I was like, I'm both of them
Speaker 1: at the same time. I don't know which one I like.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to feel about this movie. I
Speaker 1: don't know how to feel about what it portends. Tess
Speaker 1: is like, what do you think it was about? I
Speaker 1: was like, it's about how like marriage is like mutually
Speaker 1: agreeing to like kill each other slowly over a long
Speaker 1: period of time, and like a little bit of poison.
Speaker 1: Well do you know the story that um Paul Thomas
Speaker 1: Anderson has told about it? As far as its origins
Speaker 1: as an idea, Yes, because I read everything. Yeah, I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean it's kind of love. So it's
Speaker 1: it's that, you know, he is married to Maya Rudolph,
Speaker 1: and it's one of the most enviable, I would say,
Speaker 1: one of the more enviable show business marriages. And um,
Speaker 1: it's an artistic man, and I'm sure that he's maybe
Speaker 1: not always the easiest person to live with. Um. And
Speaker 1: there was some point at which he got really really
Speaker 1: sick and was laid up in bed, and Maya Rudolph
Speaker 1: was like feeding him and taking care of him and
Speaker 1: like realizing that, you know, when he's kind of taken
Speaker 1: off of his game or like forced into into physical
Speaker 1: submission via illness, that like suddenly their relationship was so
Speaker 1: much more tender and loving. And uh, that was the
Speaker 1: that was the beginning of the movie. Well, Molly found
Speaker 1: an interesting quote from Jennifer Lawrence on Phantom Threat. She said,
Speaker 1: I got through about three minutes of it. I put
Speaker 1: in a in a good, solid three I'm sorry to
Speaker 1: anybody who loved that movie. I couldn't give that kind
Speaker 1: of time. It was three minutes and I was just oof.
Speaker 1: Is it just about clothes. Is Reynolds Woodcock kind of
Speaker 1: like a narcissistic sociopath, and he's an artist, So every
Speaker 1: girl falls in love with him because he makes her
Speaker 1: feel bad about herself, and that's the love story. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen it, so I don't know. I've been down
Speaker 1: that road. I know what that's like. I don't need
Speaker 1: to watch that movie. First of all. Queen Jennifer Lawrence
Speaker 1: doing the thing I always do, which is to tell
Speaker 1: you a whole opinion about the movie you haven't seen. Uh.
Speaker 1: I have a private wood shop, um, mostly a hobby.
Speaker 1: I do some side work. I've been doing it for years. Uh.
Speaker 1: This friend of mine this weekend introduced me to a
Speaker 1: friend of hers who had a job they wanted done.
Speaker 1: And I should preface that by saying that over in
Speaker 1: a suburb of the city near where we live, back
Speaker 1: in I think it's two thousand fourteen, there was this
Speaker 1: horrible crime. It was like a murder scene literally where
Speaker 1: a person was killed and other people were injured, and
Speaker 1: it was really bloody, and they've had no ability to
Speaker 1: like sell or rent the property since then, and people
Speaker 1: go in there and sneak in there sometimes, mostly kids
Speaker 1: and stuff. Anyway, this young woman, she has a piece
Speaker 1: of wood which she claims and I have no way
Speaker 1: to prove this, that she and a couple of her
Speaker 1: friends pried this piece of wood out from where all
Speaker 1: the bad things happened. And again I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's true. It's a nice, big, heavy, uh piece of
Speaker 1: wood that has some weird discoloration on it. Anyway, they
Speaker 1: wanted to know if I would make them a ligia
Speaker 1: board and a plan chet out of it. Um. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying I believe in all that stuff, but I'm
Speaker 1: also in no way saying I don't believe in it
Speaker 1: to the point where I think about it. And I
Speaker 1: know that some people who play with spirit boards and things, um,
Speaker 1: and they have like pictures of the kind they wanted,
Speaker 1: just like this Eastern European really Gothic style one. I
Speaker 1: know people who use it. You always hear stories like
Speaker 1: they get like maybe entities attached to them or something
Speaker 1: like that, and it never ends well. But what about
Speaker 1: the person who's like the carpenter who just makes it.
Speaker 1: I mean, if they're not using it, they're not playing
Speaker 1: with it, they're not trying to talk to anybody or
Speaker 1: communicate with anything. I guess My question is, if you
Speaker 1: were my position, would you just say stop overthinking this
Speaker 1: and go ahead and take the job, because I could
Speaker 1: definitely use the cash and it does sound like kind
Speaker 1: of a cool project. Hey guys, this is the woodworker
Speaker 1: who apparently has now become known as the guy with
Speaker 1: the murder board. Um cralling to give you an update,
Speaker 1: I guess. Uh. I listen to the show and all
Speaker 1: the advice you had in the commentary, there's a lot
Speaker 1: to think about. I really appreciated that I had no
Speaker 1: idea that you're fans were going to get so interested
Speaker 1: in start having polls and things. But anyway, just to
Speaker 1: clear up a couple of things, UM, A lot of
Speaker 1: people asked about it. Was it unsolved? Uh No, the
Speaker 1: murder was not unsolved. The person who did it was
Speaker 1: in the house when the police are. They were found
Speaker 1: like immediately. So it's not a thing where you can,
Speaker 1: you know, solve the mystery and be like Nancy true
Speaker 1: or whatever. UM. I guess the other update is that
Speaker 1: I did decide to take the job. Uh after listening
Speaker 1: to a lot of feedback, including yours. UM, So that's
Speaker 1: pretty much it. I got a couple of things in
Speaker 1: front of it, and I already told them it's going
Speaker 1: to take a probably at least two months, but I
Speaker 1: will try to email you some pictures when it's done. No,
Speaker 1: I do not think I am opening a portal of
Speaker 1: death to anything I you know. And as far as
Speaker 1: the questions about the wood that was used, no, I
Speaker 1: I cannot prove that that would had blood on it.
Speaker 1: It has weird discolorations. I'll send you a picture. Uh,
Speaker 1: But again, you know, it's a paying customer, and how
Speaker 1: much I believe in it, I don't know. Hopefully my
Speaker 1: next call will not involve my basement turning into like
Speaker 1: an Indian gerald ground with you know, tombstones coming up
Speaker 1: to the floor. But that's pretty much it. And you know,
Speaker 1: thanks for answering question and take care. Since you mentioned
Speaker 1: this week about wanting to hear updates on any weirdness
Speaker 1: going on and my dreams, i'd figure i'd get it
Speaker 1: out of the way in two parts. I've been trying
Speaker 1: to stay aware of anything odd going on besides these
Speaker 1: recurring dreams, which I'll get to in a moment. For
Speaker 1: some reason, my phone's camera has been blurring out or
Speaker 1: going dark taking these shots. It doesn't do that normally,
Speaker 1: but the lighting in my shop isn't great so that
Speaker 1: it could account for it. The only really weird thing
Speaker 1: that happened took place Friday night. My neighbor Mark was
Speaker 1: over and we were in the kitchen talking about the board.
Speaker 1: While we're talking, all of a sudden, we both heard
Speaker 1: this loud sound. The only way I can describe it
Speaker 1: is like the sudden burst of wings and a lot
Speaker 1: of birds. I swear it sounded like it came from
Speaker 1: downstairs in the shop. Mark said he thought the sound
Speaker 1: came from outside, but the window was closed. Like an idiot,
Speaker 1: I grabbed a baseball bat and went down the stairs,
Speaker 1: creeping and peeking around corners, like the guy in a
Speaker 1: horror movie that you just know is going to be
Speaker 1: the next one to die. I got down there and
Speaker 1: saw no thing. As to the dreams you mentioned, it's
Speaker 1: really only just the one dream, but I've had it
Speaker 1: at least five or six times. In the dream, I'm
Speaker 1: in a house, but it's not my house. The murder
Speaker 1: board is there, and it's completely finished and beautiful, but
Speaker 1: it's grown gigantic, so it's the size of the entire
Speaker 1: wall of the room. I'm in I somehow know they're
Speaker 1: supposed to be a door there and they need to
Speaker 1: go through it, but the murder board has no door
Speaker 1: in it, and I'm frantically trying to find a way
Speaker 1: to get wherever it is I'm supposed to go, but
Speaker 1: I can't. And one of the dreams, the ink on
Speaker 1: the board was running down across it. Then I wake up.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for that update. This has been
Speaker 1: a wild ride. So we had an email proceeding this
Speaker 1: that said that, um, the person who had ordered the
Speaker 1: murder board, she was kind of shamed on social media,
Speaker 1: called which all of this stuff, and then her parents
Speaker 1: found out and they're religious. How did how did they
Speaker 1: find her? I think ours? No, no, no, I think
Speaker 1: she was talking about this. I think she told her
Speaker 1: parents or something. No, she I think she told some
Speaker 1: of her friends, and then her friends started like giving
Speaker 1: her ship on social media. And then her parents found out,
Speaker 1: and her parents were are very religious, and they were furious.
Speaker 1: They forbade her from finishing the purchase of the murder board.
Speaker 1: So our woodworker was allowed to keep the deposit, but
Speaker 1: that wasn't very much money. And then she said, you know,
Speaker 1: she wouldn't take the murder board, So now he's left
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what to do with this thing
Speaker 1: if he wants to. I think the options were kind
Speaker 1: of like burn it, get rid of it. The other
Speaker 1: one was to keep it as kind of like a showcase,
Speaker 1: because he said as pictures and it actually is like gorgeous,
Speaker 1: it's really so he could keep it as an example
Speaker 1: of what he can do, which I think is probably
Speaker 1: a pretty good choice other than it means keeping a
Speaker 1: cursed object. And then the third one is finding a
Speaker 1: different buyer but won't or no. Well, I think he
Speaker 1: was asking if that's ethical. I actually don't think that is.
Speaker 1: I think you have to tell people. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: saying he would he wouldn't feel comfortable selling it to
Speaker 1: somebody without telling them it's curse. But he also doesn't
Speaker 1: want to sell it to someone who knows it's curse
Speaker 1: and wants Hey, my name's Andrew. There is a traveling
Speaker 1: museum of the paranormal. And my understanding is that, Um,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a husband and wife who run it.
Speaker 1: Um she is I believe a medium or some kind
Speaker 1: of psychic. Um. No, she's a witch. She is like
Speaker 1: a wicked witch and he is just like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: either fucking husband whatever. I think he's also like a
Speaker 1: journalist but not whatever. The point is they have a
Speaker 1: Traveling Museum of the Paranormal UM, and they have all
Speaker 1: kinds of haunted and cursed projects, so when there is
Speaker 1: some kind of concern, um, people can call them uh
Speaker 1: and come by to take a look figure out what
Speaker 1: the deal is. So I think that if they were
Speaker 1: willing to, you know, like swing by and potentially phony
Speaker 1: up a little, that um, the Traveling of the Paranormal
Speaker 1: would be a great home for the Murder Board. So
Speaker 1: I just wanted to throw that out there. Seems seems
Speaker 1: like a great idea, seems like a I think this
Speaker 1: is I think it solves it. I think that's like
Speaker 1: this was all meant to be, because that would be
Speaker 1: the perfect ending to this story. Yeah, but we got
Speaker 1: a final update. I know I said last final update
Speaker 1: was the final update, but this is really the final
Speaker 1: update from the woodworker who made the murder board. So um,
Speaker 1: the Woodworker contacted the Traveling Museum of the Paranormal and occult,
Speaker 1: which was a suggestion that one of our listeners called
Speaker 1: in and said, maybe that's the best place for the
Speaker 1: murder board. Uh, he says. I didn't have much hope
Speaker 1: that they would be interested, but I sent an email
Speaker 1: to the curator, Greg Newkirk. To my great surprise, he
Speaker 1: got back to me within a day and was very interested.
Speaker 1: He listened to the podcast and knows the history of
Speaker 1: the murder board. He immediately requested more background information and pictures,
Speaker 1: but made it clear they would like to have it.
Speaker 1: He was very informative and helpful. Long story short, the
Speaker 1: board was mailed out today and they will begin whatever
Speaker 1: study they do on such things when it arrives. A
Speaker 1: couple of days later, there was a tweet from the
Speaker 1: Paranormal Museum. This this just like made our day. So
Speaker 1: we got a tweet from at the Para Museum the
Speaker 1: Paranormal Museum's Twitter account, and they said, hey, night call pod.
Speaker 1: We received a package at the museum p O box
Speaker 1: this afternoon. Take one guess what was inside And then
Speaker 1: a little picture of the note that the woodworker attached
Speaker 1: to it that says, as discussed, please find and closed
Speaker 1: the murder board. As much as I almost don't want
Speaker 1: to know, Please keep me updated with what, if anything
Speaker 1: you find and what the future holds for the piece. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all's well that ends. Well, it's a really beautiful story.
Speaker 1: That's so great about our l is that, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: didn't matter if you really believe in the conspiracies or not,
Speaker 1: because it's about just sort of going to those weird
Speaker 1: places of the mind of like what if all you know,
Speaker 1: I think to most people, it's like satisfying to make
Speaker 1: connections where there are none, you know, because like, wouldn't
Speaker 1: it make more sense if everything did have all these
Speaker 1: weird interconnections and the world all was a universal theory
Speaker 1: of lizard people. Um, it can just get politicized so easily,
Speaker 1: but when it's just like I wonder why that is
Speaker 1: the way it was? Is just like a weird like
Speaker 1: imaginary playground of Caleb Horton wrote a really great thing
Speaker 1: about art Bell that he reposted on his Twitter uh
Speaker 1: that he wrote a while ago, but it was just
Speaker 1: about art Bell and about how like art Bell is
Speaker 1: the perfect thing to drive long distances to. Yes, no,
Speaker 1: that's my that's my relationship with you saying it's also
Speaker 1: because it's like that's when you really have time to
Speaker 1: meditate on like what are those lights in the distance? Like,
Speaker 1: what's that weird grain silo I just passed? And that
Speaker 1: aren't Bell really just you know, creates this environment where
Speaker 1: you're allowed to just like indulge in wondering about those
Speaker 1: things like what if it was planted there by the aliens?
Speaker 1: And just the call in aspect too is I mean,
Speaker 1: it just creates this sort of it kind of feels
Speaker 1: like the radio equivalent of the kind of Internet that
Speaker 1: we talk a lot about that I've lost, the kind
Speaker 1: of ungentrified weirdos only message board. Yeah, yeah, totally, Like
Speaker 1: it is a message board radio show people who care
Speaker 1: about aliens and who aren't like trying to get the
Speaker 1: biggest audience possible, but are just like I have to
Speaker 1: find all the other people. Needs to wave my freak
Speaker 1: flag so that I can find my people. So that
Speaker 1: was a big reason we wanted this to be a
Speaker 1: call in show. Yeah yeah. And the other thing is
Speaker 1: like I think that the the long drive thing is
Speaker 1: totally I mean that is like that is my It's
Speaker 1: not like I listened to Coast to Coast all the time,
Speaker 1: but definitely if I was on a road trip, I did.
Speaker 1: What also is interesting about Urt Bell is obviously the
Speaker 1: ways it overlaps with like Philip K. Dick and people
Speaker 1: like that, where you're like, how much of this might
Speaker 1: even just be in your head? But also like it's
Speaker 1: very interesting in your head and I want to know,
Speaker 1: but it might be scary in there. Seems a little
Speaker 1: scary in there. Sometimes it's like, what are you experienceding?
Speaker 1: You know, there's enough to make you feel paranoid, but
Speaker 1: to actually like uproot your life and take action in that. Well,
Speaker 1: that also shows that maybe it's not like just a character,
Speaker 1: because obviously some radio personas are No, I don't think character.
Speaker 1: But the voice, it's like, it's such a good voice
Speaker 1: he has. I mean, he's so great at what he
Speaker 1: does that, you know, George Nori sort of demonstrates what
Speaker 1: is so great about Urt Bell that is not just
Speaker 1: immediately replicable by anyone else. So it's interesting to talk
Speaker 1: and we talked about this. This is what the podcast is.
Speaker 1: It's like we're like leftist conspiracy there and unite radical
Speaker 1: feminist conspiracy theories, but like radical conspiracy theories you know
Speaker 1: are real, They're all true. Valerie Salanis was just writing
Speaker 1: what she knew. Yeah, please make that the title today. Um, well,
Speaker 1: rest rest and rest and recipe if you are so.
Speaker 1: That does it for ouren clip show here on Nightcall. Again,
Speaker 1: thank you so much to all of our listeners and
Speaker 1: all of our all the people who called in an
Speaker 1: emailed and texted us and posted on our Facebook and
Speaker 1: tweeted at us. You are the engine that keeps the
Speaker 1: Nightcall car go Queen through the night. We also wanted
Speaker 1: to thank all of our guests. We had such amazing
Speaker 1: guests this year, so thank you to Claire Evans, Carvel Wallace,
Speaker 1: Richard Lawson, Richard rush Field, Andrew t Jen Ramlini, Brooke Baker,
Speaker 1: Ali Ward, Leslie Moon, Darcy Wilder, Jack O'Brien and Ryan
Speaker 1: Johnson at our secret live show and also the Magic
Speaker 1: of Emma and in a Noope. We'd also like to
Speaker 1: thank our amazing producers Rachel Jacobs and Ben Hosley the
Speaker 1: pro duer. We'll see you all next year in twenty nineteen. UM,
Speaker 1: it's going to be a good one. We already have
Speaker 1: like ten things we need to talk about, so I'm excited.
Speaker 1: It's what it's wet. Oh. Also, if you have recommendations
Speaker 1: for things that we should talk about, please give us
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