1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Call Zone Media. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: Welcome to k That here, a podcast increasingly ruled by 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 2: an absolutely unhinged and unrestrained band of Nazis, and apparently 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: they're democratic collaborators. I am your host, Mia Wong with 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: Vus James Stout. 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 3: I'm Miya's collaborator today. 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 2: Yay, this is a collaborator. Good. We are talking today 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 2: about collaborator bad. 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: So. 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: On Friday, Senator Chuck Schumer and his allies, in an 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: act of democratic collaboration with the regime that looks even 12 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: more hideous now than it did then, in the wake 13 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: of a series of absolutely horrific deportations in the last 14 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: few days, voted for basically a continuing funding resolution. So 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: this is this is a little bit complicated, but I 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: believe in US we can get through a little tiny 17 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: bit of Senate bullshit. So basically what's happening is that 18 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: they need a resolution to keep funding the government for 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: a little bit until more negotiations can happen to fund 20 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: a budget. There has been a budget. Basically, like we 21 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: keep seeing this over and over again. They're keep being 22 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: continuing funding resolutions, they keep almost being government shutdowns because 23 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: if there's not a continuing funding resolution, and there's no budget. 24 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: The government doesn't have any money. What happened here was that, 25 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: So in the Senate you can filibuster this and a 26 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: whole bunch of Senators Schumer and others who we will 27 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: be reading out later after we talk about what this 28 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: resolution actually did, because it's unhinged. So you've probably been hearing. 29 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: If you've been hearing about this, you've been hearing you 30 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: called a culture vote. So what that is is basically 31 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: the absolute shortest version of it is, it's a vote 32 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: to kill a philibuster on the bill. You filibuster by 33 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: continuing debate. Culture ends debate, centria, et cetera, et cetera. 34 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: So this resolution is staggeringly unhinged. It is not a 35 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: very long funding continuation. It includes thirteen billion dollars and 36 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: cuts a non military spending and also six billion dollars 37 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: in military spending cuts. There are a lot of things 38 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: that have been sort of defunded by this, including like 39 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: a lot of like housing and urban development stuff, so 40 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: research ship, you know, And that's obviously really bad because 41 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: normally with these resolutions you're just sort of like continuing 42 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: the funding, right, but this is not a normal continuing resolution. 43 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: This is it is over It is very, very over 44 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: dramatic to do the thing that a lot of people 45 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 2: have been doing, which is comparing it to the enabling 46 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: acts that the Nazis passed. 47 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 3: Yeah it's not. 48 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: But but Comma, this is a completely unhinged continuing resolution. 49 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: There has never been a continuing resolution like this ever, 50 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: and it is Jenny Winley. It is another step down 51 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 2: the path of effectively having Trump running the government as 52 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: a dictator by sort of pure fiat. And Okay, you 53 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: usually say this and you think this is an exaggeration, 54 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: but what this Continuing Resolution actually does is normally in 55 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: one of these resolutions, Congress tells you, executive how parts 56 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: of the budget are supposed to be sent right, it 57 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 2: does allocations. It'll be like, okay, so there's this money 58 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: for this thing, and it goes to this purpose and 59 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 2: you have to spend it here. This Continuing Resolution just 60 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 2: like doesn't do that. Yeah, And the goal of it 61 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: is just to let Trump do whatever the fuck he 62 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: wants with the money by not actually giving out Congressional 63 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: things to specifically allocated. So this is more of a 64 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 2: thing we've been seeing more and more, which is Congress 65 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: specifically like delegating and abandoning its constitutional power to be 66 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: the people who set the budget and just heading it 67 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: over to the executive so there can be a single 68 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: unitary executive that runs the entire governments. 69 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean when you combine it with the open 70 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: defiance of the court. So you saw this weekend with deportation, right, like, 71 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: it's not a good not a good outlook actually, like 72 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 3: it is in terms of the old separation of powers, 73 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: which is you know, supposed to be a thing. 74 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you could you could argue about whether 75 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: the American Revolution was about the king being able to 76 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: set taxes because that was technically a thing controlled by 77 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: the British Parliament. But like it is, for example, the 78 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: issue that like the Revolution of seventeen eighty nine was 79 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: fought over, right like like that that there shouldn't be 80 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: a single unitary executive who gets to fucking set the budget. 81 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: It's fundamentally I don't want to say unconstitutional, because I 82 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 3: guess I don't get to decide what is unconstitutional and 83 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 3: to the extent that it matters, fucking. 84 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 2: Fuck if we get well, it doesn't matter. Yeah, but 85 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: it is like obviously hideously unconstitutional. 86 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: It's entirely against the basic principles of the constitution, right, 87 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: like the sene Kwan none of the US Constitution, to 88 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 3: use a fancy word, is separation of powers. Is It's 89 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: not like the kind of the point of a thing 90 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 3: is to not just have one older dude in charge 91 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: like like that That is the English way. 92 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is this is the fundamental like principles 93 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: upon which the liberal notion of democracy is based. And 94 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: I use liberal in like the seventeen yes early eighteen 95 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: hundred cents of the word liber right, which is that, 96 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: like you believe in democracy. This bill effectively just allows 97 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: Trump to fund and defund programs at will. I mean 98 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 2: there's you know, there are there are specific things like 99 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: boundaries in which she can't and can't do this. But 100 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 2: I'm going to read some stuff from Senator Patty Murray, 101 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: who is the vice chair of the Senate Appropriations Committee, 102 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: which is the committee that handles like where money goes 103 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 2: in the budget. Right, it's much appropriations, et cetera. So she, 104 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: you know, is one of the senators who sort of 105 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: understands its intimately. She wrote a fact sheet about this, 106 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: which is fucking terrifying. I'm just going to quote from 107 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: that because good God. Quote. Under this continuing resolution, the 108 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 2: Trump administration could, for example, decide not to suspend funding 109 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: previously allocated for Combating Fence and all the Support Act 110 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 2: and other Substance abuse and mental health care programs, or 111 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: specific NIAH priorities like Alzheimer's disease and vaccine research, and 112 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 2: instead steer funding to other priorities if it's choosing. It 113 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: could also pick and choose which military reconstruction, Army Corps, 114 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: or transit improvement and expansion projects to withdraw funding without 115 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: direction from Congress, leaving democratic states and priorities in the lurch. 116 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that is like, that's not great, Like even 117 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 3: like I don't think people realize how much damage is 118 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: could do and it like yeah, yeah, they have a 119 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: year of just randomly slashing fit. Not only is it 120 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 3: the programs who are affected, right, things that are cut, 121 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: the certainty that contractors will get paid, the certainty that 122 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 3: if you have a contract with the government it is 123 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: a reliable thing, Like that will have devastating economic consequences 124 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 3: if they just start randomly yoinking contracts and not paying 125 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: people as they did with the USAID suppliers. 126 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so like there is also a bunch of 127 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: funding cuts for things like the Army Corps of Engineers, 128 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 2: and like, there are a lot of valid criticisms you 129 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 2: can have about the Army Corps of Engineers, and for example, 130 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: the way it like has structurally fucked the entire city 131 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: of New Orleans. But the thing is not giving them 132 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: money to do hurricane prevention is not gonna help that. 133 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 2: And the thing about this, right, because this resolution has 134 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: thirteen billion indirect budget cuts and then it also allows 135 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: Trump to do more cuts on top of it by 136 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: doing by doing these funding allocation things, right, So it's 137 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: it's like it's it's a fucking like double Yeah, there's 138 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: a sort of double set of cuts here. And this 139 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: includes you know, he can he can relegate money away 140 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: from the FAA. One of the most absolutely terrifying ones 141 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: is that this continuing Resolution allows RFK Junior to eliminate 142 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: funding for the universal flu vaccine. Yeah. 143 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: I was talking to someone in a medical profession about this, 144 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: Like there's a serious chance that is won't be h 145 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: one developed in the US for next year and it 146 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: will just use the European one. Great stuff. 147 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: You know, this is really the substantive problem with this 148 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: entire thing and why it is genuinely an act of 149 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: like an act an act of collaboration worthy Avichy France 150 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: to fucking pass this, to pass this fucking bill. Is 151 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: that again, you are handing control of the budgets, right, 152 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: You're handing direct control of just like how budget allocation 153 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,679 Speaker 2: stuff gets fucking dealt with to like Elon Musk, Trump 154 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: and RFK Junior, and they can just fucking do this 155 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: shit with it. 156 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've already seen some of this, like manipulation of 157 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: federal government funding, like with with Columbia University. 158 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: Oh, we're gonna get to that. 159 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, good exciting. 160 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, So other things. It defunds FEMA's Disaster Relief Fund, 161 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: which is bad because a bunch of funding with FEMA 162 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: Disaster Relief Fund has been get this exhausted because there 163 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: were a bunch of fucking disasters. Guess what, there's going 164 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: to be more of disasters. Guess what, There's not going 165 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: to be money in ease the FEMA Disaster Relief Fund. 166 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: Yeah that's bad. Yeah. 167 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: And here's the thing. We have not fucking hit the 168 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: worst part of this continuing resolution yet, like all of that, right, 169 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 2: like the monopolization of power in the hands of the executive, 170 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: you know, like the potentiality funding of the flu vaccine. 171 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: We have not hit rock body yet. Bottom is this 172 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: getting resolution quote slashes one hundred and eighty five million 173 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: dollars seven percent of the total program from defense nuclear 174 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: non proliferation programs, including the programs to prevent terrorists from 175 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: acquiring nuclear and radioactive material, remove radioactive materials at risk 176 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: of being misused or causing a catastrophic accident and a 177 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,599 Speaker 2: tur and monitor foreign nuclear fuel cycle in weapons developments, 178 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: nuclear materials movement or diversions, and nuclear explosions. Cool. So 179 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 2: we are defunding the nuke police again for a third time. 180 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: And this one looks like it's actually gonna fucking stick 181 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: because I don't think any of these fucking people actually 182 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 2: understand what the defense nuclear non proliferation programs do. 183 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't know, because they will on 184 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 3: one about Iran and enriching uranium for years. Have they 185 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 3: have they just give? Have they moved on? Well? 186 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: Like this as as we're going to see in a second, 187 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: this budget is being written by just fucking clowns, like 188 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: just absolute dipshits. Don't I don't know who the fuck 189 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: is doing this. 190 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: That's what I sometimes wonder is, like, who comes up 191 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: with these numbers? 192 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 2: Like it's like a staffers, it's literally an army of staffords. Yeah, 193 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: the senators re voting for these bills most often have 194 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: no idea what the fuck is in them. It's all 195 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: run by an army of staffers. And the thing about 196 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: it all being run by an army of staffers, and 197 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: the fact that Republican staffers are increasingly drawn from a 198 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: class of like genuinely the most unhinged people who have 199 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: ever lived, this class of fucking internet gropers and fucking 200 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 2: white nationalist bullshit, means that one of the parts of 201 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: this I think people have heard about is the one 202 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: billion dollars in spending that was cut just from like 203 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 2: the city budget of Washington, DC. Now, looking at what's 204 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: happened next, I genuinely think they did this by accidents. 205 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 2: That's been the explanation that's been given is that they 206 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: literally did it by accidents. And the reason I think 207 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: it might actually be true, it's it's either it's either 208 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 2: actually true or they saw the pushback. But immediately after 209 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: this bill got passed, there was like a separate bill 210 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: that was drafted to restore the funding, and that was 211 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: approvinguanimously by the second so it might legitimately have been 212 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: a mistake. So it was either legitimately a mistake or 213 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 2: all of these people realized that the entire population of 214 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: DC was about to like fucking march on the capital 215 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: of Pitchforks. So I don't know one of those two things. 216 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: So we're not talking much about the DC stuff because 217 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: it seems like the funding is going to come back, 218 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 2: though if it doesn't well cover the catastrophic impacts of that. 219 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: And there's one more thing, James, which I couldn't find 220 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: details of, but one of the things it's supposed to 221 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 2: do is eliminate protections for people an immigration court. Fantastic, 222 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 2: great allowed the Attorney general more power. 223 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just looking this up. Actually, Like, let 224 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: me there was an office founded under Biden that was 225 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 3: the Office of the Obficely Immigration Detents from Ombudsman, which 226 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: was like supposedly to exist to like examine people's conditions 227 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 3: in immigration detention, right, And I'm wondering to what extent 228 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: it still exists. Yeah, Like I don't know. I was 229 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: just trying to find that out, I would have to 230 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 3: go through the risk, and maybe I will at some point. 231 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: But yeah, there is stuff that the federal government does 232 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: right now that provides people with some protections in immigration courts, right, 233 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: and yeah, I can see, I mean look to the 234 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 3: extent that that matters, because they're just deporting people in 235 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 3: open violation of court orders right now, we don't know. 236 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 3: But it's still bad either way, right, taking away the 237 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: very few protections that might have. Yeah, it's bad. 238 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, So speaking of bad things, we're going to go 239 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: to ads and then we're going. 240 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 3: To come back. 241 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: We are back. 242 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: So, having said all of this about this bill, fully, 243 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 2: ten Democratic senators voted to avoid shutting down the government 244 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: and fucking past this unbelievably hideous resolution which again like 245 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: defunds the nuke police. Again, they are risking like global 246 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: annihilation by doing this. And I'm just going to read 247 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 2: out the names of everyone who did this, because there's 248 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: been a lot of focus on Chuck Schumer, and Chuck 249 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: Schumer is to like probably the primary person responsible for this, 250 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,359 Speaker 2: but fuck every single one of these people. 251 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: And he's a quizzling in this scenario, like the Capitol 252 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: Q quisling. 253 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, okay, so Chuck Schumer, Catherine Cortes, mosto Dick Durbin, 254 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 2: which is actually a surprising one because Durbin suburban's about 255 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: to retire. He he was my old senator in Illinois. 256 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 2: I actually know he wasn't wow a complicated I actually 257 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: fucking don't remember the which one of them I had. Uh, 258 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: But Durbin is, you know, he's like senior party leadership guy. 259 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: He's usually been in like the kind of left I 260 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: guess of the like old Democratic leadership yea, which is 261 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 2: not very far left. But he fucking voted for this. 262 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 2: John Fetterman, to the surprise of absolutely no one, Kirsten Gillibrand, 263 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: to the surprise of absolutely no one. Yeah, thank you 264 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: his song. Agnes King, Gary Peters, Brian Shatz, and Janine 265 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: Shaheen now notably missing from that list. Tim fucking Kine 266 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 2: voted against this. Do you know how bad a Republican 267 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: budget thing has to be for Tim fucking kin to 268 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: vote against it and be like, hey, guys, what the 269 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: fuck are you doing? 270 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? And the thing is like, as a Democrat, the move, 271 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 3: just if you want to get reelected is to vote 272 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: against it and then blame them for everything bad that 273 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: happens this year because of the budget thing, right, if 274 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: you have no moral backbone whatsoever. And I'm sure like 275 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 3: that there are things in this continuing Resolution which really 276 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: screw over rural areas, right, like some of the funding 277 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: that was allocated. Oh yeah, And like Cain is at least, 278 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 3: I guess astute enough to see that when things get 279 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: harder of his constituents, he can go, yes, they did this, 280 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 3: and I voted against it, and you need to return 281 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: me to office so I can continue opposing this shit, 282 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: which is a very cynical approach. 283 00:14:59,520 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 284 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: And then yeah, we've just got Chuck Chuck Humor who 285 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: just kind of bowed down and kissed their ring. 286 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, the response to this is staggering. 287 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: I genuinely I have never seen anything like the kind 288 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: of anger I'm seeing it. I I've seen that Schuber for 289 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: the past few days. This has happened Friday. Like Indivisible, 290 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: which is like a pretty so Indivisible is like a 291 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: sort of NGO thing that that's like a like tries 292 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: to get's like a sort of vaguely progressive thing and 293 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: tries to get people to vote for the Democrats. 294 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like register voters and stuff. 295 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And they've been getting into fights with the Democratic 296 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: leadership because they keep telling people to call their senators 297 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: to tell them to oppose bills and or nominations. The 298 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: Democrats are like, we don't want to oppose bills. 299 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty, in mobilizing the vote in territory, for instance, 300 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: like an indivisible to Hana played a really important role, 301 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: So like they're not negligible in their power. 302 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, and like they are calling for primary Chuck Schubert. Yeah, 303 00:15:54,200 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: our slash neoliberal is calling for AOC the primary Chuck Schumer. 304 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: Do you know how fucked things have to be. 305 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 4: For ar slash neoliberal to be backing AOC against Chuck Schumer? 306 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 4: Like fucking near a tandin is Agrey with Bertie Sanders. 307 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 2: Criticizing Schumer for voting for this bill, Like this is. 308 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 5: Like, I I don't know, I think there maybe there 309 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 5: are probably are people in the audience here who's like 310 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 5: weren't paying attention enough or like don't remember, or like 311 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 5: weren't old enough to be around for like like the 312 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 5: Bernie Wars. 313 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: But this is like every faction on every side of 314 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: like the whole series of fights from like twenty fifteen 315 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: and like Bernie's first thing through twenty twenty, even like 316 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: the mid late twenty twenties, Like all of these people 317 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: were on exactly polar opposite side. They fucking hated each other, 318 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: and they're all like coming together specifically to agree on 319 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: a fuck Chuck Schumer camping to the point where like 320 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 2: again like ar Slas neoliberal and like Nearer Tangent who 321 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: are like have been just absolute stalwarts the part right 322 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: for ages are like are backing AOC primary ing Chuck Schumer. 323 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a total cultural victory for the Bernie bros. 324 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: Is what's happening. It's a Democratic party. 325 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: Well, and again the Chuck Schubber is the head of 326 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: the Democratic Caucus in the Senate. 327 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, minority leader of the United States Senate. 328 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: Yeah he is, you know, he is unbeliefably powerful, and 329 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: I mean, like the people criticizing him. He got criticized. 330 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 2: There was a joint statement on funding bill in the 331 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 2: Senate from the Democratic minority leader in the fucking House, 332 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 2: Hakim Jeffries, and the Democratic whip Kathleen Clark, and the 333 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 2: caucus chair Peri Agular and like Hawkim Jeffries is as 334 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 2: ferociously anti socialist of a politician as there exists in 335 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 2: all of Congress. He is like implacably hostile to even 336 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: like the most like barest progressive things whatsoever. He is 337 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 2: just staggeringly opposed to. And they released a joint statement 338 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 2: against this. Right a sort of happening here, and it's 339 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,479 Speaker 2: happening fucking too late to stop anything. But what's happening 340 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 2: here is like we are genuinely starting to get a 341 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,479 Speaker 2: kind of and and I'm seeing this sort of online. 342 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: We've been I think we've been seeing the sort of 343 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: echoes of it is like, but there's a kind of 344 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 2: realignment happening among you know, obviously this has been being 345 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: opposed by people outside the Democratic Party and by a 346 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 2: lot of the Democratic Party's base for ages right and 347 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 2: the Democratic Party's base, and also just like people who 348 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: don't want to get be ruled by fascist forever have had, 349 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 2: you know, incredibly staunch opposition to all of the collaborationist 350 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: investment happening. But what's happening right now is that like 351 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: the actual like inside of the Democratic Party, there was 352 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 2: a fucking rupture happening. And inside of the people who 353 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 2: are like, you know, like inside of the politic coast, 354 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 2: there was a rupture happening between people who are collaborationists 355 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: and people who'd like want to be less collaborationist. And 356 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: this is to the point where like Nancy Pelosi came 357 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 2: out against this. Yeah, And the reason they're doing this 358 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: is because a lot of these people are fucking terrified 359 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: because they are looking at a couple of things. One, 360 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: they're looking at what the Trump gistration is doing, and 361 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 2: they're going, holy shit, Like near A Tandon is looking 362 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: at them fucking just black bagging, just like just fucking 363 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 2: black bagging Mamu Khalil and is going like, holy shit, 364 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 2: we are maybe about I mean, it's maybe eight steps 365 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: away from that happening to be, but that's eight steps 366 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: that you can fucking like, that's a path you can 367 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: walk down. And this is also these people that are 368 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: realizing just the unbelievable anger among just like regular what 369 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 2: you would call sort of like regular liberals who aren't like, 370 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 2: like you vote for the Democrats, but if you aren't, like. 371 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not like on Twitter with a blue wave emotion. 372 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 2: But the thing is, even the people on Twitter with 373 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: a blue wave emoji and again, like the rich last 374 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 2: neoliberal people are like the most ideologically committed of all 375 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: of these people, right, Like even the most unhinged nerds 376 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: who are like obsessed with like individual house races and 377 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: like very very specific, weird technical policy stuff that allows 378 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 2: them to justify supporting all these unhinged policies, even those 379 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: people are learning on them. And the reason this is 380 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: all happening, and I think this is a very very 381 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: important thing to understand about the entire political landscape going forward, 382 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: is that one of the core, an extremely important basis 383 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 2: of Donald Trump's support is in the leadership of the 384 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 2: Democratic Party, particularly the Democratic Party in New York, Right Schumer, 385 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: this is Eric Adams. This is also increasingly becoming true 386 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 2: of people like Gavin Newsom and a lot of the 387 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: sort of Democrats out of the Bay to some extent, 388 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 2: and you know, and you can you can see this 389 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: is sort of various border states too, where you know, 390 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 2: these people fundamentally are doing this because they fucking agree 391 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 2: with him. That's why why, that's why they're fucking collaborating. 392 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, or at the very least, like and perhaps it's 393 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 3: in a sense worse that they don't agree with him, 394 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 3: but they don't care enough to not like they're doing 395 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 3: it because they think they can personally benefit. 396 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: No, I don't think that's true. And my evidence for 397 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 2: why I don't think that's true is I'm going to 398 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: read some stuff from the New York Times interview that 399 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: David Chuck Schumer right after he did this. Okay, So 400 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: in this interview with the New York Times, he gets 401 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 2: asked about Trump cutting four hundred million dollars of funding 402 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: for Columbia University for I guess not like publicly executing 403 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: the Palestine protesters. And again, yeah, Columbia University. That is 404 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 2: an institution that he represents in the Senate, right, Yeah, 405 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 2: Like that's like his that's like his fucking thing. And 406 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 2: his response was, well, obviously they didn't crush the campus 407 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,719 Speaker 2: protest hard enough, but cutting four hundred million dollars spending 408 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 2: might hurt students who didn't protest, like maybe, And he's 409 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: not even clear about that, right, So if you read 410 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 2: between the lines of what he's saying, his arguments is 411 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 2: that it's actually fine for Trump to do all of 412 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: these fucking budget cuts of all of these people from 413 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 2: these universities as long as it's specifically targeting pro Palestinian protesters, 414 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: which is ednyone who's vaguely pro Palestign And he also 415 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: gets you know, he gets asked about the Trump administration 416 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 2: just straight a black bagging about mu Khalil, and he says, quote, 417 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 2: I don't know all the details yet. They're trying to 418 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: come out and there'll be a court case which will 419 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: determine it. If he broke the law, he should be deported. 420 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: If he didn't break the law on which and just 421 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 2: peacefully protested, he should not be deported. It's plain and simple. 422 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 3: I mean, how is it hard to not make an 423 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 3: a quivocating statement on that. 424 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 2: No, because he agrees with it. He thinks it's fine. 425 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: He thinks it's fine. The Trump administration fucking black bagged 426 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 2: this guy, like again, who is who it was? A 427 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: permanent US resident. He thinks that it is okay. That 428 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 2: here's the thing, he's not even disagreeing with the actual 429 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: literal black bagging. And I want to point this out, 430 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 2: like even if Amu Khalil like legally committed a crime, 431 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 2: like that's not a fucking deportation thing. 432 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, the section of the United States they're using to 433 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 3: justify deporting him is not one that has been used before. 434 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 3: This is not he did not do a felony, and 435 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: they're not suggesting that he did do a fellas And 436 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 3: like if Schuma can't find it in himself to condemn that, 437 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 3: like yeah, like folks need to move on because. 438 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: He because he agrees with it. Like that's the thing, Like, yeah, 439 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: what he is saying here is that he agrees that 440 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 2: if a permanent legal US resident commits any crime. 441 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: Well doesn't though he's not an accused, he's not accused 442 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 3: of a crime, like he's he no, no, that's that's no. 443 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 3: But this is specifically what Humor says. Schumer said, quote, 444 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 3: if he broke the law, he should be deported. What 445 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: his stance is is that if someone who is a 446 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 3: permanent US resident breaks the law while at a palaestimee protest, 447 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 3: even if it is a misdemeanor, even if it is 448 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 3: fucking jaywalking. 449 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: That they should be deported. That is the Trump administration line. 450 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 2: Like that is it is slightly less than Trump administration line, 451 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: but that is that is a genuinely fascist political line. 452 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 2: She just straight up agrees with the administration. He is 453 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: a slight matter of degree like off from them, but 454 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: like he's he just like he's collaborating because he fucking 455 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 2: agrees with them, and he agrees with them both on 456 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: on the fact that the state should be used to 457 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 2: destroy anyone who supports Palestine, and she agrees with them 458 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: on the fucking deportation ship. Because you know, this was 459 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 2: one of the other things that Democrats have fundamentally aligned 460 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: with Trump on since twenty twenty is that fundamentally, like 461 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 2: they agree that we need more immigration controls and we 462 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 2: need to do more border violence. You can see the 463 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 2: evidence of this from when they fucking passed that just 464 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: unhinged fascist bill to do allow border state of emergencies. 465 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's stuff that they proposed and didn't pass 466 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 3: because they were Republican twenty to kill it and then 467 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 3: Biden executive order banning asylum. Like I think what it 468 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 3: comes down to is that for the Democrats, the existence 469 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 3: of people who oppose the genocide in Palestine and the 470 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 3: existence of migrants is seen as inconvenient, and they're prepared 471 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 3: to do away with any rights so as people might 472 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 3: have and even do away with those people rather than 473 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 3: engage with them in any way. Right, they I'm sure 474 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 3: people like Schuma continue to blame people from both of 475 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 3: those move moments for their ass whooping that they took 476 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 3: at the polls in twenty twenty four because they decided 477 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 3: that it was more important to do genocide than it 478 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 3: was to listen to those in this country and rather 479 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 3: than listening now they're blaming them. And the only logical 480 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: way for them to go is right, and the only 481 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 3: logical place for them to take it is more state violence. Right. 482 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. But there's another aspect of this too, which the 483 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 2: thing I want to close on, which is okay, So, 484 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: why have the Democrats been shifting so far to the 485 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: right since twenty twenty right and s particularly since after 486 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two when they needed to sort of win 487 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: it contest NAT for election. And the answer is that 488 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 2: after twenty twenty, all of their politics became about opposing 489 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: the uprising because they you know, there was a period 490 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 2: dream the uprising where they were scared enough that like 491 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: you get like the cant cloth shit, and they're like, 492 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 2: you know, and they're talking about like and Biden like 493 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: runs on a significantly more left wing platform than like 494 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris did, right, Yeah, because of the particularly because 495 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: of the pressure of those protons. Now, obviously, like presidential 496 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: platforms just lies, right but. 497 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, it's just as you need to tell to 498 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 3: get the votes. 499 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. But on the other hand, the fundamental politics 500 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 2: of the Democratic Party in the last half a decade 501 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: has been opposed to the uprising. It's the thing that's, 502 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 2: you know, behind all of their turn to tough on 503 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: crime politics. It's the thing behind their their sort of 504 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 2: anti immigrant politics, the thing behind the turns they've been 505 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 2: taking on trans politics. And the problem with this particularly 506 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: like the anti black, anti crime shit and the anti 507 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 2: immigrant stuff you know who else. His entire politics like 508 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 2: came into the fucking political sphere as the right wing 509 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 2: reaction to the uprising. Oh wait, Donald Trump. Donald Trump 510 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 2: walked down the fucking escalator in twenty fifteen, immediately in 511 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: the wake of the giant uprisings in Baltimore in twenty fifteen, 512 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 2: which I think people have sort of memory holds, like 513 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: Ferguson and Baltimore. He like, it's like right after Baltimore 514 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 2: that Trump fucking comes down the escalator and people forget 515 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 2: how fundamentally the right wing reaction to those protests deranged 516 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 2: people who even the Tea Party hadn't pushed like far 517 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: enough to for Donald Trump. It was like it was 518 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 2: a reaction to this. 519 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when we saw the oath Keepers for the 520 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 3: first time as well. Like this kind of militant right 521 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 3: really grew dramatically in response to that. 522 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is the sort of fundamental thing that's 523 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 2: going on, is that there's now an entire class of 524 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: people who are running the Democratic Party, right. This is 525 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 2: this is a fucking Chuck Schumer. He is, like, I mean, 526 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 2: quite possibly the most powerful Democrat in the country, and 527 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 2: he is just straight up a collaborationist. 528 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it might legit become that like AOC is more 529 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 3: powerful than Chuck Schumer in the next few weeks, you know, 530 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: he is that the reaction against Chuck Schumer from establishment 531 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 3: Democrats is stronger than anything I've ever seen from them. 532 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: He lost Seth Moulton, which I didn't even think was possible. Yeah, 533 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: but I think there's there's one more important note to 534 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: sort of say, shure, which is that, like, you know, 535 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: the response to this that I've largely been seeing is 536 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: everyone going, Okay, we need a primary to these people. Okay, 537 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 2: are you looking at the rate at which stuff is 538 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,239 Speaker 2: happening in this country, Like, you do you think that 539 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: we are going to be able to wait until the 540 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: fucking primaries? 541 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, six years the cases, right. 542 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, until we can like attempt to fucking do shit here, 543 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: Like absolutely not. No, they were like there literally is 544 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 2: regardless of what you think about electoralism as a strategy, 545 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: there is literally not time to wait until the next 546 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 2: election cycle. Like again, they have defunded the nuke police 547 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 2: for the third time. So the opposition to this isn't 548 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 2: going to come from inside of the electoral system because again, 549 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 2: the demercrats are being run by collaborators and there's not 550 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 2: enough time to fucking oust them. So if you if 551 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 2: you want this to not continue, you were going to 552 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: You're going to have to find ways to do organizing 553 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: outside of that system. We have approximately one million episodes 554 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 2: about this. You can also go back to my you 555 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: already know how to organize episode. 556 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 3: But yeah, look, call your centator if you want to. 557 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 3: But if that's the net total of your political activity, 558 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,479 Speaker 3: then like right now, it's probably not going to make 559 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 3: a difference in time, and really consider it. It's the 560 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 3: most useful use of your time. Yeah, and maybe make 561 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 3: some beans or sow something nicer one instead. Oh as well, 562 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 3: you could listen to it while you sew something nice. 563 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 3: You could call them while you're cooking your beans. 564 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, well this has been It could happen here? Yeah, 565 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: down with the collaborationists, Yeah, fuck. 566 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 3: Them, Yeah, absolutely fucking choke in particular, It. 567 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: Could happen here is a production of cool Zone Media. 568 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from cool Zone Media, visit our website 569 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: cool Zonemedia dot com, or check us out on the 570 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever. 571 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: You listen to podcasts. 572 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: You can now find sources for it could Happen here, 573 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: listed directly in episode descriptions. Thanks for listening.