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Speaker 2: Schools, we're talking about it before two. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That was a round trip.

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Speaker 2: I paid five sixty for each leg of the flight.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you get a sparkling bottle of Champi Mowayn.

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Speaker 1: Moett Mowayne is more like you.

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Speaker 5: The only person who gets like who really feels his

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Speaker 2: I had Champagne on spirit more than one time. Everybody

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Speaker 2: else we praying to the Holy Spirit to keep us safe.

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Speaker 2: There you go. You only want to feet, kickback, relax

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Speaker 2: and enjoying yourself. Ay, rob g. The Buffalo Bills played.

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Speaker 1: Like chicken wings last night. I mean they just what

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Speaker 1: was that against the Falcons? Back to back losses now

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Speaker 4: But the Buffalo Bills didn't look that good last night,

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Speaker 4: not at all. Now this is the fund staff for

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Speaker 4: you guys. The Buffalo Bills have not been lower than

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Speaker 4: Just to give you context of what's going on with Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: Last night was tough, only one game better than the Jets.

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Speaker 4: No I'm kidding. The Buffalo Bills had gone I think

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Speaker 4: they had won their turnover battle for like fourteenth straight games.

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Speaker 2: The last two weeks they have turned the ball over.

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Speaker 2: They had more turnovers than a bakery.

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Speaker 4: Over the last five games have averaged eighty nine yards combined.

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Speaker 4: They had no respect for any of those receivers. And

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Speaker 4: What's wrong with the offense? AJ Brown's upset, say Kwon

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the problem is and this happens with teams.

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Speaker 5: Family member that always comes through, the family member that

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Speaker 5: always gonna be dependable. What happens. Maybe it's you. That's

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Speaker 5: who's gonna play in the blah blah they got it?

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Speaker 2: I wish somebody had it for me once, right, just like,

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Speaker 1: I'm at the season in my life everybody kind of

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Speaker 2: When the bill comes cal got it, I'm like, dang it,

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Speaker 2: I got it. Yeah you got you got eight job,

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Speaker 2: Yeah you got it. And so that's what happens.

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Speaker 5: You become reliant on that person to figure it out,

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Speaker 5: And the Bills have become that they've got it person,

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Speaker 5: and in this case is Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: He's got it.

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Speaker 5: He'll scramble around, he'll make MVP, super Bowl, Superman tight plays.

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Speaker 5: They blitzed him seventy I think was seventy one percent

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Speaker 2: For his life all night.

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Speaker 5: Well, and they're not good enough to be always having

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Speaker 5: This was supposed to be the season, rob.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 5: The Chiefs look bad in the Super Bowl. Maybe they're down,

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Speaker 5: Maybe they're taking a step back. Travis Kelsey's washed, maybe

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Speaker 5: their defense is terrible. Joe into the season, right, what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying, going into the season, you already knew they

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Speaker 1: They're in the mix, But don't take by the advantage

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Speaker 1: of this because most people picked Baltimore coming into the.

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Speaker 5: I mean I did too, but a lot of people

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's just not gonna able to get it done.

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Speaker 2: You and I.

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Speaker 5: I picked Ravens to get to the super Bowl, but

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Speaker 5: a lot of people felt like it would be Josh Allen.

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Speaker 5: It's his season now, and you can't waste away early

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Speaker 5: Luca type years, early lebron and Cleveland when you have

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Speaker 5: this guy and you just don't build around it, and

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Speaker 5: you're just like, oh, they'll figure it out. Lebrono scored

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Speaker 1: Luca will figured out. Drag Us banked in or that

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Speaker 1: the money I.

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Speaker 2: Do remember that? Yeah, I covered that game. I was

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Speaker 5: So that's my point right now, they need to build

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Speaker 5: it up all the time. The Patriots had great defense

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Speaker 2: That was the thing.

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Speaker 1: People forget job five, nobody, that's special defense. And when

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Speaker 2: To win no Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: I just don't like people keep acting like it was

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady didn't shut them down.

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Speaker 1: Now he got the ball and score and all that,

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Speaker 5: That's my point. Rod Peyton Manning could have all those stats.

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Speaker 5: He finally won a super Bowl when that cult of

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Speaker 1: Don't remember when the Patriots won their first Super Bowl

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Speaker 5: I'm like, like, that's my point. You're supposed to build

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Speaker 5: I know, we always talk about the stars. You're supposed

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Speaker 5: and you know, work on their thing while slowly behind

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Speaker 5: the scenes. It's not like if the Vikings were terrible,

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Speaker 5: Packers were terrible, maybe the line's gould be like everyone

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Speaker 5: be looking in on them more.

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Speaker 2: They kind of get to fall behind the scenes.

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Speaker 5: There's work on their game, no noise, and I think

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Speaker 5: that bowls well for them.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 5: On the way, of course, we got more conversations about

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Speaker 5: a team were about to say, also lineup for trash

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Speaker 5: Talk eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven

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Speaker 5: seven ninety nine on Fox. There's a team that I

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Speaker 5: feel they might want to reconsider their head coach. It

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Speaker 5: might be time to move on. We'll tell you what

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Speaker 5: we're talking about right now. Steve the Seger gonna get

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Speaker 5: you set on what's trending.

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Speaker 10: Hello, gentlemen, It's Game two of the NLCS underway at

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Speaker 10: top seed Milwaukee, and it's Brewers one nothing over the Dodgers.

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Speaker 10: In the top of the second inning, Jackson Churio leadoff.

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Speaker 10: Homer on the first pitch off LA starting Oshinobu Yamamoto

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Speaker 10: an ready other way on that right ent.

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Speaker 2: To right field.

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Speaker 10: Freddy Perraulta the ace of the Brewers is going for them.

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Speaker 10: Dodgers took the opener of the best of seven last night.

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Speaker 10: LA would host games three, four, and five Thursday afternoon,

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Speaker 10: Friday night Saturday night. Roger pitcher Tyler Glass now will

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Speaker 10: go game three. Shohei Otani will pitch game number four,

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Speaker 10: and we do have an update to Oscar Hernandez has

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Speaker 10: just homeward to left against Peralta, so top of the

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Speaker 10: second it's one to one. In Game number two of

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Speaker 10: the National League Championship Series, the ALCS is off. The

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Speaker 10: Mariners lead two games to none against Toronto. Game three

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Speaker 10: in Seattle Wednesday night on FS one, with game four

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Speaker 10: Thursday night in Seattle and Toronto pitcher Max Scherzer will

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Speaker 10: start game number four. The Ravens cut defensive back CJ.

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Speaker 10: Gardner Johnson from their practice squad. Pittsburgh wide receiver Calvin

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Speaker 10: Austin miss practice with his bad shoulder. The colt signed

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Speaker 10: quarterback Brett Rippon to their practice squad. Former Jets center

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Speaker 10: Nick Mangold is asking for a kidney donor. He was

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Speaker 10: diagnosed with chronic kidney disease almost twenty years ago. Among

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Speaker 10: the eight NHL games tonight, SIT's a Maple Leafs lead

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Speaker 10: of three to two at home over the Predators in

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Speaker 10: the second period. Tampa Bay still up won nothing at

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Speaker 10: Washington in the second. The Dallas Mavericks reportedly gave coach

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Speaker 10: Jason Kidd a multi year extension. The NBA's exhibition schedule

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Speaker 10: ends this Friday night, and you kons preseason number one

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Speaker 10: in the Women's basketball preseason poll, ahead of number two

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Speaker 10: South Carolina. UCLA is number three in AP Back to you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Steve, appreciate it. As always it is the odd couple.

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Speaker 5: Rob Parker kelvin Washington on a trash talking Tuesday again.

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Speaker 5: If you want to jump in now you can eight

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Speaker 5: seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Will get to those

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Speaker 2: A few weeks ago, Rob, there.

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Speaker 5: Were conversations and there were some reports about the end

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Speaker 5: of last season, how it ended for the Dolphins. What's

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Speaker 5: been going wrong? You have former players talking about what's

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Speaker 5: happening in the locker room. You and I talked about

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Speaker 5: it a bit. One of the concerns that I had

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Speaker 5: with Mike McDaniels is trying to be the cool coach,

504
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Speaker 5: trying to be the players coach too much, especially when

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Speaker 5: you haven't won anything, I think can be dangerous. We

506
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Speaker 5: all want to be that, we all want to be liked,

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Speaker 5: and they had start to struggle a bit, and they

508
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Speaker 5: started we started to hear reports that you had Jalen Ramsey,

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Speaker 5: you had Tyreek Hill. They weren't showing up, They're missing practices,

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Speaker 5: They're showing up late to meetings or not coming at all.

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Speaker 5: And you obviously had all the issues with Tyreek where

512
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Speaker 5: he left, you know, talking of I want to lead

513
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Speaker 5: the team, I want to get out of here. Then

514
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Speaker 5: he has to come back. They have to have a

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Speaker 5: team meeting for that. Then you had your leader in

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Speaker 5: your quarterback say some things the other day.

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Speaker 11: I think It starts with the leadership in helping articulate

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Speaker 11: that for the guys, and then what we're expecting out

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Speaker 11: of the guys, Right, we're expecting this, Are we getting that?

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Speaker 11: Are we not getting that? We have guys showing up

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Speaker 11: to player only meetings late, guys not showing up to

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Speaker 11: player only meeting Like, there's a lot that goes into that.

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Speaker 11: Do we have to make this mandatory? Do we not

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Speaker 11: have to make this mandatory? So so it's it's a

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Speaker 11: lot of it's a lot of things of that nature

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Speaker 11: that we got to get cleaned up. And it starts

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Speaker 11: with the little things like that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when I heard that, that was the moment I

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Speaker 5: realized he might need to update he's linked in Because

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Speaker 5: it's one thing, and you know this as a reporter

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Speaker 5: for many years, eons, it's.

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Speaker 2: One thing that don't come over here to aboud. I've

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Speaker 2: been doing this since nineteen eighty something I say for

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Speaker 2: a long time.

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Speaker 5: And my point is it's one thing to hear a

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Speaker 5: rumor or report or kind of some unknowing sources or

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Speaker 5: some players that happens, and it very well could be true,

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Speaker 5: but you can say that's just outside noise.

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Speaker 2: It was last year's players.

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Speaker 5: You can understand it, even though we know after the

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Speaker 5: first game where they had the season.

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Speaker 2: Players only meeting right off the bat.

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Speaker 5: You can't start the season off already having a player's

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Speaker 5: only meeting. That shows me there's some dysfunction in the

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Speaker 5: off season. Tyreek Hill trying to come back, they have

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Speaker 5: to have a meeting about him. That a whole bunch

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Speaker 5: of stuff's going on. When your quarterback, who is normally

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Speaker 5: soft spoken, who is normally trying to say the right thing,

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Speaker 5: do the right thing, be a podium guy.

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Speaker 2: Is screaming this.

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Speaker 5: This is a major indictment coming from you know, your

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Speaker 5: the face of the franchise in this case, in your quarterback.

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Speaker 5: And I think that is an indictment on him, on

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Speaker 5: my mc daniels. And this is one time I will

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Speaker 5: say losing is the issue, because had they been winning

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Speaker 5: right now, they're one and four. If they were, you know,

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Speaker 5: three and two or something or four and one, we

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Speaker 5: might not be having this conversation.

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Speaker 2: But you can't be losing. And then when you.

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Speaker 5: Start to look at the numbers of where they are,

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Speaker 5: they're in the bottom third of offensive stats are like

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Speaker 5: twenty fifth, sixty seventh offensively and you cannot be that

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Speaker 5: bad when.

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Speaker 2: The sign of what you are. You were a wonder kid.

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Speaker 5: You were the the you know, the smart genius kid offensively,

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Speaker 5: and they had an amazing year in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 5: Put up a seventy piece. I thought it was the

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Speaker 5: Miami heat plan. And now our offensive terrible, offensive is bad.

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Speaker 5: Were down to the bottom of the pack and all

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Speaker 5: of these offensive stats and our own leader in a

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Speaker 5: quarterback franchise, quarterback is calling out leadership. That's that's It

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Speaker 5: can't get more damning to me, because it would be

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Speaker 5: different if we said that, but our offense was crazy.

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Speaker 5: We're number one in this, number two and that number three,

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Speaker 5: and that that's damning. Rob And I just think that

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Speaker 5: the writing is on the wall. And that's almost to me.

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Speaker 5: If it's as an agent, you're starting to feel calls,

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Speaker 5: you start to look for opportunities.

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Speaker 1: Well, when you don't win, if you're not a part

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Speaker 1: of the solution, you're a part of the problem. And

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Speaker 1: we talked about it before. I mean, sports is real simple.

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Speaker 1: I know it's cliche, and I've said it a million times.

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Speaker 1: Sports has a short menu and this wins and losses.

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Speaker 12: And.

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Speaker 2: You're going to get fired when you don't win.

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Speaker 1: Then one in five correct, five, you're going to get fired.

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Speaker 1: And it's this bad and it looks this bad and

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Speaker 1: then they toat you in like Doug told you. No,

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Speaker 1: you're proud of the problem. Yes, you're prout of the

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Speaker 1: problem right now one and five. Like, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: I know some people said you are what your record

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Speaker 1: says you are. But I'm just saying, you know, don't

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Speaker 1: do that, thanks Doug. I mean, he's setting some things

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Speaker 1: up around there.

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Speaker 5: They're building something. You know, it takes time. It doesn't work.

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Speaker 5: Like you say, my third fourth year, I should already

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Speaker 5: have it together. Yes, yes, you should have it together.

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Speaker 2: You say that I'm an.

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Speaker 1: Offensive gas with offense stinks nobody. We don't live that

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Speaker 1: world anymore. And that's the big thing there is. There

601
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Speaker 1: used to be new coach came in a five year plan.

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Speaker 1: The quarterback would sit the first couple of years. Those

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Speaker 1: days are long, nobody. They're not waiting for anybody. Every

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Speaker 1: year you're retooling your team trying to win. Now, what

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Speaker 1: we gotta do to try to win? Now? Right you're

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Speaker 1: not You're in Cleveland. Let's bring the forty year old quarterback.

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Speaker 1: We need to win games. Now you're the Pittsburgh Steelers. Well,

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Speaker 1: just we got a great story tradition. We'll just rebuild,

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Speaker 1: Let's get a young quarterback, let's go for a couple

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Speaker 1: of years, and then we'll be ready. No, no, nobody's

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Speaker 1: doing that because that's not where we are in sports anymore.

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Speaker 1: People are trying to do whatever they can right now

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Speaker 1: to give themselves the best chance to win. When you're

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Speaker 1: having issues with a coach not winning, and now there's

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Speaker 1: the other stuff that comes out, and you know that,

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Speaker 1: the dirty laundry always comes out when things are on going.

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Speaker 1: When you're winning, nobody's saying anything because basically, for the

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Speaker 1: most part, unless you're Aj Brown, you're not saying anything.

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Speaker 1: But you get my point. So I'm not shocked by this,

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Speaker 1: not shocked by the conversation, not shocked that people are

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Speaker 1: out there and this stuff is happening.

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Speaker 2: And you're right McDonald, well, he'll be he'll he'll be

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Speaker 2: whacked sooner than later.

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Speaker 1: I don't know when is there by Rob g Uh,

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Speaker 1: I have to look that up because there might there

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Speaker 1: might be an opening coming up, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: after the next game or so where they might decide

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Speaker 1: to make a change or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it actually U.

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Speaker 5: Right, they they must have already had you. I think they

631
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Speaker 5: already had it already. That's their bye. That's too late.

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Speaker 5: Is that the second box Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 2: That they they ain't had it? They got a I

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Speaker 2: mean they're about to suffer and they got lost.

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Speaker 1: They got they got like the last by right, I

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Speaker 1: mean November twenty third.

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Speaker 4: My goodness, man, that this is about to be a

638
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Speaker 4: brutal hell. You know what's crazy is we just did

639
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Speaker 4: back to back. Satan's talking about the Bears and the Dolphins, right,

640
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Speaker 4: and the narratives around each team is so different. If

641
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Speaker 4: Miami can hold Justin Herbert from getting a forty yard

642
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Speaker 4: completion on third down, they win last week. If Jayden

643
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Speaker 4: Daniels doesn't fumble the ball with nobody touching him, the

644
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Speaker 4: Bears lose last night. The Bears won two weeks ago

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Speaker 4: off a block field goal against the Raiders, which they

646
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Speaker 4: would have lost that game too. And it's just interesting

647
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Speaker 4: how they win. Caleb Williams not really playing very well,

648
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Speaker 4: they've been very sloppy, but they win and it's like, hey,

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Speaker 4: everything's cool, we're progressing. Worry about it Miami has had

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Speaker 4: the lead in like four of these games in the

651
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Speaker 4: final minutes. Use it and it's like, hey, fire the coach,

652
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Speaker 4: quarterbacks gotta go.

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Speaker 2: They got a leadership issuit.

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Speaker 5: Here's why number one. He did what you're not supposed

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Speaker 5: to do. It's great to do in real life. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's just crazy. How if yeah, one play goes different

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Speaker 5: in this game. They're three and two right there.

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Speaker 1: But what you just said is what we talk about

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Speaker 1: all the time. What is the ultimate? It's about winning

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Speaker 1: and losing, not how you do that, but winning and

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Speaker 1: losing and if you win those games, rob g and

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Speaker 1: if you're right or if those things go your way.

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Speaker 1: It's just like we talked about it. It is about

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Speaker 1: winning and losing and that and and winning covers up everything.

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Speaker 2: It's the ultimate makeup in sports.

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Speaker 1: It covers up the flaws or the blemishes and you

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Speaker 1: and you turn your head and go, oh, we want

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Speaker 1: what do you want to do?

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Speaker 2: Cry over? We won. The Dodgers didn't go like, oh no,

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Speaker 2: we don't want to win.

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Speaker 1: That game because the pitcher threw it over the catcher's

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Speaker 1: head on an easy play to first base.

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Speaker 2: They won the game. And you know what they did

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Speaker 2: they moved on. They don't care they moved on. They won.

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Speaker 5: And I think the problem too Rob g his first

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Speaker 5: I think two out of the first two to two

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Speaker 5: out of three seasons they went to the postseason, so

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Speaker 5: he had success early. Right, you can't go backwards. You

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Speaker 5: can inch your way up like and I hate to

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Speaker 5: use max example, Tim and Dan Campell.

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Speaker 2: Looks bad but it getting better? Looks bad? Can it

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Speaker 2: getting better?

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Speaker 5: Not had a good You can't go playoffs, playoffs seventy

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Speaker 5: piece looking good to a lead in the league in passing,

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Speaker 5: just got a new contract like and then fall off

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Speaker 5: and fall off bad. And it can't be both on

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Speaker 5: the field and off the field issues. That's the part, right.

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Speaker 5: So if you're if you're a struggling even the Bills,

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Speaker 5: for example, they've had enough success that they struggled for

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Speaker 5: a while. Then you can say, all right, they're having

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Speaker 5: a rough little goal, but they've had they've been building

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Speaker 5: up and had success. You can't start here and just

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Speaker 5: all of a sudden go back and then lastly, have

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Speaker 5: your leader, your franchise quarterback come up. Tua never says anything.

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Speaker 5: When Tua says that.

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Speaker 2: That's saying a lot.

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Speaker 4: And it didn't help that the coach came out and said, well,

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Speaker 4: he's probably talking about one person, and the next day

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Speaker 4: he comes out and says, yeah, that was a misguided comment.

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Speaker 4: So when the quarterbacks saying there's a leadership issue, the

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Speaker 4: coach is saying, Walda, they're falling in the things I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the problem is. That tells you

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Speaker 4: they got real leadership problem.

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Speaker 5: That's the point right there, all right, all the way,

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Speaker 5: it is trash Talking Tuesday. You've been waiting four at

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Speaker 5: eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven, seven

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Speaker 5: ninety nine on Fox, Hit us up.

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Speaker 1: Hey what a Kobo?

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Speaker 5: Rob Parker kof Washington on a trash Tuesday. Which're getting

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Speaker 5: ready to get you right now. Before we get to that,

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Speaker 5: I do have to tell you that eggs and pains

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Speaker 5: can keep it moving. Please use as directed. And it

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Speaker 5: is time now for trash talking Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go to it. Kevin in Culver City.

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Speaker 2: You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. Who are

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Speaker 2: you trashing? Kevin? Let's see who it is today.

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Speaker 9: I'm trashing Martin Weiss. I never heard a conversation he

728
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Speaker 9: was having with my very own monastery Belamos about USC

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Speaker 9: and how soft we were against Illinoid. We only lost

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Speaker 9: by the last second by a field goal. We left

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Speaker 9: no doubt, leave no doubt. We have Malachi living my

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Speaker 9: boyfriend Los Alama High School, looking like Ritchie Bush, Keing

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Speaker 9: Miller from Calabasta's looking like Lyndale White, Stata Mawall looking

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Speaker 9: like Matt Lioner, spreading that ball around, and we were bawling,

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Speaker 9: and like I said, it's like two thousand and four

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Speaker 9: all over again, when we beat Michigan in the rosebo

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Speaker 9: for our first championship lead. No doubt we are sc

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Speaker 9: and Michigan got that fought kids in the colleague. There

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Speaker 9: you go nowhere, that's what we do.

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Speaker 2: All appreciate it night, how about all?

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Speaker 1: I nah, they beat they beat the mad beat a mad.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was a bastar cleaning the house. Let

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Speaker 5: me go ahead, let me go in the garage.

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Speaker 1: You want me to vack Orlando or help Passo. You're

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Speaker 1: on the couple of Fox sportsuating. Who you trashing? Orlando?

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Speaker 13: Cowboy defense? They know had a hell of a sandwich

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Speaker 13: day with my wife.

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Speaker 3: You know, puts some Swiss cheese.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what happened.

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Speaker 13: More holes chesun Cowboy defense, My goodness.

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Speaker 5: No doubt, no doubt. Yeah, he had at him Dak

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Speaker 5: Prescott his fall, he called. He on the phone with

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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow right now. I mean, how'd you deal with

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Speaker 5: it last year? He's like, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Max from Georgia, you're on the odd couple of Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Who are your trashure? Max?

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Speaker 12: I'm trashing Shador Sanders and Travis Hunter. You know they

759
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,479
Speaker 12: learned some bad habits from old Prime. Too much meat

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Speaker 12: and not enough weed. Chador ain't him, He's not. He's

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Speaker 12: damn sure not legendary Travis. His head's been underwater since

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Speaker 12: week one, not just Sunday pregame during his back.

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Speaker 9: They both were overhyped.

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Speaker 12: The NFL bought.

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Speaker 9: One, they pushed back another.

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Speaker 12: Both Chador and Travis mine as well play for.

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Speaker 9: The Saints because that way they'll be able to play.

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Speaker 5: The Panthers twice a year, and they'll be able to

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Speaker 5: match their playmaker abilities.

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Speaker 6: Because who that why?

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Speaker 2: Now that's right? There can't even respond.

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Speaker 1: How about Scotti and Peoria must be Illinois. You're on

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Speaker 1: the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Who are you trashing.

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Speaker 6: Scottie do ataligable? Fella? He hasn't been the face of

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Speaker 6: the franchise since the third concussion. Hey, and I don't

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Speaker 6: know what the hype is about the kid anymore. He's

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Speaker 6: left handed and he throws with left handed anger. He's inaccurate,

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Speaker 6: he gets hit harder than a rag doll, and he's

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Speaker 6: got no weapons anymore except for Jaylen Wattle and Devon

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Speaker 6: a j.

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Speaker 2: All right, right, thank you.

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Speaker 1: How about Mace in San Diego? You're in the couple

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Speaker 1: of Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you're trashing Mace.

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Speaker 13: Mike McDaniel. This twofish isn't everly gonna get fired After

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Speaker 13: losing to Los Angeles Chokers. Despite your twenty nine wins

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Speaker 13: and twenty eight losses in the regular season, you're owing

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Speaker 13: two in the playoffs and have a record of three

790
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Speaker 13: wins and sixteen losses against teams with the winning record.

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Speaker 13: You try too hard to be hip and cool and

792
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Speaker 13: friendly with all the players by telling them how great

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Speaker 13: they are instead of being hard. Players don't respect you,

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Speaker 13: and that's why they constantly show up late to practice

795
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Speaker 13: because players don't fear you. Do you really think these

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Speaker 13: multimillionaire players are going to respect them. Man that wears

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Speaker 13: high water sweatpants which are the equivalent of women's capris,

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Speaker 13: Come on, Mike, put your head out of your gluteus maximus.

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Speaker 13: These players have already tuned you out.

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Speaker 12: But don't worry.

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Speaker 13: Once the Dolphins fire you, they still hope you can

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Speaker 13: accomplish great achievements. So you have a degree from Dale,

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Speaker 13: you can put up to use the play for Johns

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Speaker 13: Hobgins University and get a medical degree for that way,

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Speaker 13: you can just world a favorite the chemal renounced surgeon

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Speaker 13: but due humanity a favor, But you mean an idiot,

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Speaker 13: Tyree Kilibert checking me?

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Speaker 1: My goodness, gracious, Hey, they were all one today. Thank

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Speaker 1: you Mace eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. What's

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Speaker 1: amazing is that Mace normally is talking about players of

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Speaker 1: the paties, you know, exact nighties. Yeah, and to pick

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, you know, like a current coach in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Almost fell out of my chair. Yeah, that's how bad

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Speaker 2: it is. Mike.

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Speaker 1: Mace was not even trying right now. That's why we

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Speaker 1: maybe squeeze in one more if we can. How we

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Speaker 1: got fired up today? I about Mitch in New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Who are you trashing?

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Speaker 3: Mitch? Hey?

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Speaker 14: How are you doing? Guys? I'm trashing to college football poll,

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Speaker 14: how's your teachers at twenty the five and one? And

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Speaker 14: being a pretty good team that being who's on the

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Speaker 14: schedule and one. One thing is he is only a

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Speaker 14: quarterback and I can see why. But you guys have

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Speaker 14: to give Mikayle Lemon a shot. He's having one of

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Speaker 14: the best college he is any college player this year.

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Speaker 14: But we thinking they.

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Speaker 2: Stignac appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well we you know, we don't overly give our

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Speaker 5: thoughts right now when we think, but no, he's right,

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Speaker 5: he has having a good way, and it's a larger

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Speaker 5: conversation to be had, by the way, when we've done

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Speaker 5: it before and we'll do it again this year. Why

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Speaker 5: does Heisman? Why is the MVP? Why is it always

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Speaker 5: a quarterback? Because the quarterback is such an al why

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Speaker 5: like what else? So it wasn't in the seventies, eighties,

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Speaker 5: ninety two thousand, Now all of a sudden, the quarterback

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Speaker 5: or nothing.

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Speaker 1: No, go go look at uh at some of the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks and their stats, and they weren't great because they

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Speaker 1: didn't go the ball that much.

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Speaker 2: You know, just don't you throw the ball. Don't mean

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Speaker 2: you're good, that just means you throw the ball. Quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Carry down again, there's a running back, is defensive player

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Speaker 5: or ride receiver somebody that's Travis Hunter, shouts Travis Hunter,

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Speaker 5: who will not according to one of the congers who

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Speaker 5: was trashing.

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Speaker 1: Him, No, no, no, it's it's it's a quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: Then we'll just give it crowning the crowner