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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three

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Speaker 1: live from our Tommy John Holmes Studios. I am Chad

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Speaker 1: Millman of the Action Network. This is our Sunday Night

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Speaker 1: episode in which we review the faves five picks we

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Speaker 1: put into the contest, to sect why we left some

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Speaker 1: games out, preview the early lines we already like for

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Speaker 1: week fifteen. I'm joined as always by my calls, my companion,

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Speaker 1: my compadre, my BFF, professional better assignmon Hunter et osim.

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Speaker 2: In Hello, Chad, how are we doing? Brother?

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Speaker 3: I feel pretty good?

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Speaker 1: Actually, you know, I feel like last week it was

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Speaker 1: pure chaos before we submitted our picks. This week we

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Speaker 1: didn't change a thing, and in the fourth quarter of

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Speaker 1: the early games, in which we had three games, I

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Speaker 1: was wishing we had because everything we believed about the

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Speaker 1: games that we liked was not true at all through

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Speaker 1: three quarters and then went almost exactly as we expected.

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Speaker 1: In the fourth quarter. We will explain we had submitted

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Speaker 1: the Vikings minus five and a half, the Dolphins minus

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Speaker 1: five and a half, the Browns plus six and a half,

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Speaker 3: And a half.

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Speaker 4: For the day.

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Speaker 3: We are two and two.

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Speaker 1: We have Kansas City minus four and a half tonight

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Speaker 3: Let's start with the.

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Speaker 1: Game we love the most this week. The Vikings were

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Speaker 1: my exact decision. They were your best bet. Unconvinced me

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Speaker 1: this morning. We had them at five and a half

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Speaker 1: in the contest. The final score was forty two to

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Speaker 1: twenty one. Was tied to twenty one heading into the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, which was very frustrating. If you were a

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Speaker 1: better watching this game, did you feel frustrated as well

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Speaker 1: in that moment?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, more so frustrating the Vikings defense, where I feel

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Speaker 5: like they just totally no showed on us. Like in

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Speaker 5: that game, there was a bunch of opportunities on fourth

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Speaker 5: downs for them to get stops, and they kept converting

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Speaker 5: and then getting touchdowns off those drives, and it was

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Speaker 5: just like, man, their defense can't get a stop, and

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Speaker 5: then yeah, their offense I think at one point was

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Speaker 5: being out gained by like one hundred and fifty yards

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Speaker 5: right the Vikings. So I'm right there with you. Chad

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Speaker 5: was not feeling good in the way through that third quarter.

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Speaker 1: We liked this game a lot for two reasons. You

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Speaker 1: just touched on both of them. We like Brian Flores

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Speaker 1: in his defense against Kirk Cousins, and it was very

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Speaker 2: Back it up at that point.

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Speaker 1: At that point through the three quarters, one sack of

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, who we thought would be hounded and throw

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Speaker 1: The Falcons were seven of thirteen on third downs in

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Speaker 1: the game. They ran seventy plays, averaged seven point one

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Speaker 3: Three hundred and fifty yards. He did throw two picks.

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Speaker 1: One of those did lead to the Vikings going up

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Speaker 1: forty two to twenty one. It seemed like Tyler Algiers

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Speaker 3: It was very upsetting.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I guess we've seen this season gone along here,

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Speaker 5: teams have started to figure them out a little bit, right.

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Speaker 5: I think that's fair to say at this point, because

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Speaker 5: they've given up a lot of points. Yeah, but they

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Speaker 5: obviously get key stops because they've been incredible in these

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Speaker 5: deep throws from Sam Donald that were just you know,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to call him fifty to fifty balls,

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Speaker 5: but there were really two yeah, right.

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Speaker 1: Like, look the the I said, we had two reasons

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Speaker 1: we loved this game. One was Brian Flora's defense against

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. The second was Sam Donald, like he's been

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Speaker 1: We felt like he was on an upswing, like he

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Speaker 1: they figured something out and he's been incredibly effective. Jordan Addison,

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Speaker 1: had three time sushdowns today. Donald Today was the difference

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Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty eight, three forty seven five touchdowns, three

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Speaker 1: to Jordan Addison, two to Justin Jefferson. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: this was while being constantly pressured by the Falcons.

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Speaker 3: The Falcons had ten.

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Speaker 1: Sacks as of two weeks ago. They have nine in

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Speaker 1: the past two weeks. They have four this week, five

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Speaker 1: last week. I don't know why all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: they're getting after the quarterback. But one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: we liked this game is we didn't think they'd pressured Donald. Instead,

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Speaker 1: Donald was brilliant against the pressure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and just at the the day another day of

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Speaker 5: I'm happy we doubted Kirk and faded Kirk.

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Speaker 2: It was like, mean you definitely wait a little bit

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Speaker 5: Number moved too much? Are we sure we want to

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Speaker 5: bet this? Because you know, at one point it was

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Speaker 5: we didn't make a move obviously on this one.

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Speaker 2: Gave it out six. I bet it all well, even

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Speaker 5: At one point it was just like I love this

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Speaker 5: by the Vikings. Semen.

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Speaker 2: You know they're a team that there's a route for

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Speaker 5: Pretty pretty incredible coach of the year right now for

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Speaker 5: a team that you know, us sitting here right now

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Speaker 5: with them being even in reach of that one seed

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Speaker 1: Well, that division, the Packers, the Vikings, and the Lions,

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Speaker 1: it's starting to feel like in any given Sunday division,

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Speaker 1: right like what we saw with the Packers and the Lions.

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Speaker 1: That was a great game and you truly felt like

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Speaker 1: they would have scored. And it's why Dan Campbell did

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Speaker 1: I think that was a great call because all three

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Speaker 1: so glad the Lions continue to pace because I feel

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Speaker 1: Although we will talk about their game for next week

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Speaker 1: against the Buffalo Bills, where there are two and a

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Speaker 1: This game Cleveland plus six and a half at the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: This was the full three sixty Jamius experience, a lot

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Speaker 1: like last week, only this time, Simon, we were on

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Speaker 1: the other side of it, dude. We celebrated with him

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Speaker 1: in the first quarter when he had a beautiful scramble

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Speaker 1: through a beautiful ball on the run to Jerry Judy

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Speaker 1: thirty five yard touchdown. Moments later, there was a bad

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Speaker 1: scored that go up ten to seven, never trailed again.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and then I just want to get your

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Speaker 3: The final three minutes of this game.

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Speaker 5: Still, though I don't put it on Jamis, I thought

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Speaker 5: it to me, it falls onto one other player and

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Speaker 5: the kicker that just totally screws that game, because yes, Jamis,

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Speaker 5: the kicker totally changed the mentality of that game, Like

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Speaker 5: Oh, Cadier's Tony Cadarius Tony. Yeah, And I thought give

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Speaker 1: So how do you get flagged for taunting on a

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Speaker 3: He flames out.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why that should be the death knel

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Speaker 5: You up, right, Yeah, I mean I don't get it,

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Speaker 5: Just it's incredible that he basically won that Chiefs that

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Speaker 5: now it's what Evan, twenty one years they have not

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Speaker 1: That was like the back door was wide freaking open,

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Speaker 3: Firmly believed that.

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Speaker 1: That was going to be a game that we covered

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Speaker 1: We had the Dolphins minus five and a half. Honestly

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Speaker 5: They just cannot close teams out this season. That's exactly

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Speaker 2: Man, well, we talked about Tua. Like Tua, he's playing well.

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Speaker 5: Like the fact that he finished his game with over

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Speaker 5: it's historical, these meltdowns. And we joked about their professionals.

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Speaker 5: We thanked them for moving it to five and a half.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's funny you mentioned the Dolphins in

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Speaker 3: Did you think that?

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Speaker 5: It was two huge plays with Juno Smith and a

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Speaker 5: Overall he's just I mean, it's crazy how bad QB

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Speaker 1: He's super consistent. It's why we liked the Dolphins in

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Speaker 3: Today first first pass of the game.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, this is going to be a great day

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Speaker 3: But you know what, at the end of the day

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Speaker 1: So we were two and one after all that drama

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Speaker 5: so I definitely think you took the exact decision and

440
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Speaker 5: put the Bears in Thursday.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, because it was three and a half.

442
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Speaker 1: We liked we liked Carolina, but we both said we

443
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: wanted Carolina at thirteen and a half, and it was

444
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Speaker 1: a twelve and a half in the contest.

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Speaker 2: That's fair.

446
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Speaker 5: On Thursday, it was definitely a game though, like exactly

447
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 5: what you just said, I I didn't really bet at that.

448
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Speaker 2: Heavy, and then this morning when it was popped up,

449
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: it was just the line had moved to three at

450
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Speaker 2: that point, so it's just like we already had it

451
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Speaker 2: in the contest.

452
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Speaker 5: It was like, well, we have good value on it.

453
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Speaker 5: Are we really going to switch out this game? And

454
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Speaker 5: then had to switch out maybe Miami and the Vikings

455
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Speaker 5: because at the time they had both moved to bad numbers, so.

456
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Speaker 3: We would have had to Yeah.

457
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it sucks where It's like we knew we

458
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 5: saw that a mile away. On Tuesday, we talked like,

459
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Speaker 5: that's the Funnies is the spot we historically had played,

460
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Speaker 5: just like the Rams were today where it's like this

461
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 5: season it just beat us up so bad that we

462
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Speaker 5: kind of got spooked off by both those games. And

463
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Speaker 5: those are old school spots, just like that Carolina was

464
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Speaker 5: an old school spot like those those games stand between

465
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Speaker 5: those games, it's just historically, you see those teams have

466
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 5: letdown games, and we saw today this this Bears team,

467
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,479
Speaker 5: even even if we were hoping for a coach bump,

468
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 5: it just looked from the get go that Perty was

469
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Speaker 5: just on one, like he came out firing with him

470
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Speaker 5: and Kittle, that connection was unreal. Start the game and

471
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 5: you know, they get out to a fast lead. I

472
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 5: still thought we had a chance. They'll be honest, yet

473
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Speaker 5: just because the fort and Arrows have been best so

474
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 5: bad in the second half, and the Bears have been

475
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Speaker 5: so good the second half, and maybe we had a

476
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Speaker 5: chance at it. But then I think that strip sacked

477
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Speaker 5: fumble yeah by Caleb put the.

478
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Speaker 2: End of that.

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00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 5: But what is the tenth traight games now? Caleb no

480
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 5: no interception, So yeah, the Bears. It's it's at this

481
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 5: point you wanted better draft picks, so who cares? That

482
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 5: would have been nice obviously to get a winner for

483
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 5: firing your coach, but overall, it's like you know that

484
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 5: you were not You're not as bad as you look today,

485
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 5: and the forty Niners are not as good as they

486
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Speaker 5: look today. But that was just a meeting of two

487
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Speaker 5: teams that you can tell the different level of coaching

488
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Speaker 5: on both teams.

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Speaker 1: In this exact game, the Bears had five punts in

490
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: the first half to your point of not looking as bad,

491
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: they had four total yards high punts four yards. The

492
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: Niners had three hundred and twenty.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you.

494
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Speaker 1: I feel like at this point I've seen enough out

495
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: of Kleb. I know he can be a legit first

496
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: rate quarterback. I just want the Bears to keep losing.

497
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: I just want him to lose get as good a

498
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: pick as possible.

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Speaker 3: You know, we all know. I grew up in Chicago.

500
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Speaker 1: My mom moved to the Bay Area about fifteen years ago.

501
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: My sister lives in the Bay Area. She had twins.

502
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Speaker 1: She has fifteen year old twins and a younger kid

503
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Speaker 1: who's going to be thirteen. And when my mom moved,

504
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: my mom moved out there to be closer to my sister.

505
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,479
Speaker 1: And so my mom called me this afternoon and she's like,

506
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Speaker 1: trash talking me about the Bears.

507
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: Wow.

508
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: And I'm like, she's like, oh, I'm so sorry you

509
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: turned it over. I'm like, hey, what the fuck are

510
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 1: you talking about? You rooted for the Bears for forty

511
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 1: years living in Chicago. Why are you trash talking me

512
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: right now about the Bears? And then second, I'm like, Mom,

513
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: this is exactly what I want. If you want to

514
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: root for the Niners, go ahead, But I want the

515
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 1: Bears to look bad and I want Caleb Williams to

516
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: look good. This is my only goal right now. So

517
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: you know it's not working out for you as much

518
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: as you want to trash talk me right now. And

519
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: then I told her I had to go because I

520
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: was just upset about the whole conversation. Yeah, let's just

521
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Speaker 1: say we're not going through a walk for a walk

522
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: through the botanical gardens like you do with your auntie

523
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: anytime soon. Okay, not until she calls and apologizes trying

524
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: to get under my skin. Look, I think this game

525
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: was like a last resort pick because we couldn't come

526
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Speaker 1: to consensus and a lot of different things, Like we

527
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: loved Minnesota, we loved Green Bay on Thursday Night. I

528
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: think those were the two games that we loved the most,

529
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Speaker 1: and we obviously couldn't put Green Bay in. You liked Buffalo,

530
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Speaker 1: I like the Rams. We both liked the Panthers, but

531
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Speaker 1: we agreed that the number what we were going to

532
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Speaker 1: wait until we get I don't know if.

533
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Speaker 2: I agreeed to because I'm looking at my notes right here.

534
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 5: But then my five games I put in, I literally

535
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 5: said on the show was the Panthers.

536
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Speaker 3: I didn't have that.

537
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, I said it on the show, though, I know

538
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 5: for a fact, because I haven't literally written right here

539
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 5: in my notes I'm looking at because I wanted to double.

540
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Speaker 2: Check because I was like, it started right that, and

541
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Speaker 2: I'd say, and.

542
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Speaker 5: Maybe you're right, Maybe I was like, well, I want

543
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 5: us to get a better number on Sunday, But yeah,

544
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 5: that just sucked. We missed on it because you knew,

545
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 5: I don't know midway through the second quarter that that

546
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 5: game was going to come down to possession. Bryce Shung

547
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 5: just played really well overall in that Eagles game. So yeah,

548
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 5: that was a bad miss by me and not forcing

549
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 5: that one, and just because we just knew that was

550
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 5: just such a letdown spot for the Eagles team and

551
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 5: this Panther team. The books we've set it for weeks now.

552
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 5: They haven't caught up to align with this team. They're

553
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 5: just not what they were early in the season. They

554
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 5: keep being undervalued and maybe next week they'll catch up

555
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Speaker 5: to them.

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting line next week.

557
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Speaker 3: But I feel like they have and I feel like

558
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Speaker 3: we already missed it.

559
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, this one was pretty crazy.

560
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 5: It got up to fourteen right before kickoff, so yeah,

561
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 5: good good number to bet if anyone got it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's one more game that we could have put in,

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Speaker 1: which we're going to talk about in a second. But first, Simon,

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Speaker 1: can you name the best ticketing app in the United States?

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Speaker 2: Game Time?

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Speaker 1: That's right, it's our beloved sponsored game Time. As Simon

567
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Speaker 1: and all our listeners know, I love going to live games, NFL, NBA,

568
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Speaker 1: college football, college basketball.

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Speaker 3: You name it.

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Speaker 1: I'm open to the game Time app. Right now from

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Speaker 3: Fifty bucks.

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583
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Speaker 3: What time is it? Game time? All right?

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Speaker 1: I think it's very important right now that someone come

592
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: on this show and given me a call PA. So

593
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to invite Matt Mitchell. He's going to apologize

594
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: to me for berating me when I wanted to choose

595
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: the Giants, Simon. I felt like you were delicate and

596
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: thoughtful and sensitive and gave me the feedback that you

597
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: normally give when you feel I'm going astray, which is like,

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Speaker 1: are you sure? And you know you gave me some

599
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: good points, and I backed away and made Minnesota my

600
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: exec decision. Matt was grinchy and belligerent and then on

601
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: the show mocked me with little drops on the show

602
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: after my giants picked yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah he did,

603
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: and then he was so proud of it. He slacked

604
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: me to say, hey, did you hear that drop? Fans

605
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: loved it. Fans loved and dropped out the Giants. So Matt,

606
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: if you want to come on right now and just

607
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: sort of, you know, apologize, I'd appreciate that. I think

608
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: all the listeners would appreciate that. Because the Giants covered

609
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: they're five and a half point number.

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00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 4: That's true, they did, and of course I apologize to you.

611
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 4: I serve at the pleasure of our audience. I always have.

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00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 4: I appreciate the many fans, including our super fan Brendan

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Speaker 4: O'Neill of the O'Neill family. I'll reached out. Yeah, we

614
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 4: love the O'Neals. He was most appreciative of the of

615
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 4: the slander and being spared the point of view that

616
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 4: was the point of view of the Favorites podcast, that

617
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 4: the Giants were a fun and smart bat. But yes,

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Speaker 4: I'm so sorry, sorry that I was so quote grinchy

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Speaker 4: to you, Sorry that I hurt your feelings. Those also

620
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Speaker 4: lost Today Sean McDermott aka Sean Schottenheimer showed his ass

621
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Speaker 4: again today. It's been a band of weekend for me.

622
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Speaker 4: So yeah, congratulations, I'm so sorry. Hopefully we can pick

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Speaker 4: up the shattered pieces of our relationship and reassemble them

624
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Speaker 4: in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: The city of brother they love.

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Speaker 1: Simon Matt's been very grinchy lately. I'm excited for you

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Speaker 1: to see him in Philadelphia. So I'm excited for everyone

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Speaker 1: to see him in Philadelphia, and I want everyone to

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Speaker 1: ask him Matt, why are you so grinchy? If we

630
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Speaker 1: can get a couple hundred people to go up to

631
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell and just constantly ask him why is in

632
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: such a bad mood all the time recently, and maybe

633
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: try to make him feel better, that will make my night.

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Speaker 1: Anyone who comes up to me and says, I just

635
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: asked Matt Mitchell, why is in such a bad mood?

636
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Speaker 1: We're going to figure out what your gift is for sure?

637
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Speaker 5: Right?

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00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: All the money this was a total de Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I don't know about you, Chad, but if I had

640
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,239
Speaker 5: a fireplace in my office, I'd be pretty happy all

641
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Speaker 5: the time.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's where I'm at with it.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's fine on a lot of ways to be grinchy,

644
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Speaker 1: all right. We got to look at some week fifteen

645
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Speaker 1: lines I mentioned, you know, we got the Thursday night

646
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Speaker 1: football watch party next week. So Rams and Niners was

647
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: at two and a half when we went on air.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it's at now. My initial instinct

649
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: on that the Rams were two and a half point dogs.

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Speaker 1: Their win over the Bills obviously significantly more impressive to

651
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: me than the Niners win over the Bears, but it

652
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Speaker 1: also makes me feel like it could be a good

653
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,239
Speaker 1: time to fade the Rams because it was such a

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Speaker 1: monumental win.

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Speaker 3: You got thoughts on this one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't this easy? Easy? Bed?

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Speaker 5: Forty nine ers under three take when you count? I

658
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 5: think most books are gonna get down to two one

659
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 5: and a half. Like it feels like you might not

660
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 5: need a rush to get it if you don't want to,

661
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 5: just because of what Chad just said, Like that was

662
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 5: by far the best game of the year by matth

663
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 5: Stafford and that offense. I mean, it was incredible how

664
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 5: good they were. And yeah, the no one in the

665
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 5: public's gonna be buying this forty nine ers team, but

666
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 5: I'll grab it now. I mean, Evan's gonna have some

667
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 5: amazing trends for us up this couple coming week about

668
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 5: this forty nine Erson against his Rams team and just Shanahan,

669
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 5: it's it's usually his spot they win.

670
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: Right spot.

671
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like it feels like they always match up well

672
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 5: against him, and he just historically, even when his team

673
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 5: wasn't that good and mcvay's team was good, he usually

674
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 5: beat him. And now it feels like they're pretty even

675
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 5: for the most part. I know that people think overall

676
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 5: that the Rams are a better team. But I still

677
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 5: think this forty nine Ers team overall is a is

678
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 5: a better team. So uh yeah, cheah, this is a

679
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 5: game I'll just be patient on. I mean, I'm looking

680
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 5: at it live right now, Beth through six five. It's

681
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 5: town of minus two, so you're right open two and

682
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 5: a half. Yeah, before we even started this morning, it

683
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 5: was three. So yeah, it's moved to full point. That's

684
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 5: not public money, that's profession money. Me.

685
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: People are going to be so impressed with the Rams win.

686
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: It's just gonna money is gonna come in on the

687
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: Rams like we're gonna have We're gonna have the opportunity

688
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: to bet this at a much better number.

689
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 3: We talked about the Panthers.

690
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: They literally at seven o'clock, seven to fifteen before we

691
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: came on one and a half point underdogs to the Cowboys.

692
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: As I opened the app, it's seven thirty. Just to

693
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: double check some lines that I was interested in, it

694
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: moved to Panthers minus one. Now it's minus one and

695
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: a half. So we'll have a longer conversation on Tuesday.

696
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. It's already flipped from Panthers as

697
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: a dog the Panthers a favorite, which is always a

698
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: tricky and dicey spot to play.

699
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's right, Like, I'm positive I'm gonna have

700
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 5: this line at minus two and a half minus three

701
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 5: for this Panthers team.

702
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: So I'm excity to see what I do have it at.

703
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 5: I mean, I wouldn't mind it going up and weekend

704
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 5: come on the Cowboys because the lines moved too much.

705
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 5: But right now, the early movement that that sounds right

706
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 5: to me. It's just the Panthers. They're a totally different

707
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 5: team they were early in the year, and they're a

708
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 5: team playing with confidence even though they shouldn't be. It's

709
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 5: it's really impressive what that coaching staff has done. And

710
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 5: even their defense today, like they were outmatched in every

711
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 5: way and they played hard all the way to the

712
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 5: very end. So yeah, just I would say, I can't

713
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 5: believe this, But as a Panthers fan, how are you

714
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 5: not excited about the future right now?

715
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: Like nice young there's a lot you can build off

716
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: of with this kid. And yeah, I know today was.

717
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 5: His best I think it was nineteen oh thirty four,

718
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 5: but you saw he was doing with a guy like

719
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 5: Adam Feeling where It's like if he has a smart

720
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 5: receiver that knows how to follow him when he's moving

721
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 5: and running outside the pocket and getting downfield, he's a

722
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 5: good weapon. Like he keeps his head downfield and he

723
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 5: can find open guys. So yeah, that that guy who

724
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 5: bet that three million dollars. Yeah, he must be praising

725
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 5: the guy for that drop by the get at the

726
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 5: end of that game, because that felt like that was that.

727
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 2: Was going to be it and there about to win

728
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: that game.

729
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: So they were a leget drop away from winning that game. Yeah,

730
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: and no like like criticism of Aget, It was a

731
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: really hard catch.

732
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: It was a great throw.

733
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: I can it's impossible not to be impressed with how

734
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: Bryce Young has been playing. And we thought, I mean,

735
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: we also talked about we were a little bit nervous

736
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: that this defense was so good for the Eagles and

737
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: their defensive line was so good, they would just be

738
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: a different experience for the Panthers than we had seen

739
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: in their previous games, even against the Chiefs a little bit,

740
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: because the chief secondary isn't as good. So I do

741
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: remember a lot of hesitation because now I'm feeling like

742
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: a little annoyed that I didn't put the Panthers in.

743
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 3: But we had a lot of hesitation.

744
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 5: I mean, you can just want to piggyback right off

745
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 5: of that one. I mean, the Eagles right now chatter

746
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 5: minus four and a half against Pittsburgh, I know, And

747
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 5: that's like, isn't everyone in their grandma'm going to bet

748
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 5: the four and a half? Who's not betting the Pittsburgh

749
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 5: four and a half? So that is one of ther

750
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 5: fishier lines I've seen. Like, to me, that was that

751
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 5: was a hang three And if you need to move

752
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 5: to three and a half, you do, and if you

753
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 5: if you need Philly money, you move to two and

754
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 5: a half. They just they put it right at four

755
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 5: and a half. That's that's the book taking a stand

756
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 5: making a statement there.

757
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: So seriously, that's that's pretty impressive.

758
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 5: They they they did that, and maybe they think Pickens

759
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 5: is gonna play again because I mean, obviously today didn't

760
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 5: really matter for them, but like we know that's a

761
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 5: big deal for that Pittsburgh team having Pickens, and yeah,

762
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 5: like that's the number. I haven't bet either side yet,

763
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 5: but like I am really having a hard time not

764
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 5: betting Pittsburgh right now because I know it's it's something

765
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 5: something just feels off. But four and a half, that's

766
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 5: that's crazy. They opened up that high.

767
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: That game obviously is in Philadelphia, Uh they sat, Uh

768
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: so the news coming in hold on a couple of

769
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: things I got.

770
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 3: Uh.

771
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 1: Since November first, Carolina's five and zero against the spread,

772
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: so the only undefeated team against the spread since November first. Also,

773
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: Gifford is telling us in the chat that the Steelers

774
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: sat George Pickens for next week, so he'll be ready

775
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: for next week. That makes the four and a half

776
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: feel even higher to me.

777
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

778
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's a lot of respect to an

779
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 5: Eagles team that I don't know if it deserves that

780
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 5: much respect.

781
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: I think people feel the same way you and I

782
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: did last week, like that defensive line is fierce, and

783
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,959
Speaker 1: so I do think that's something that people are getting

784
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: in their head. Obviously it at least for me, I'll

785
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: take the blame here. It played too much into it,

786
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: which is why we put the Bears in.

787
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: But whatever, we're moving on.

788
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: We're gonna, you know, hopefully it works out tonight with

789
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and yes, sir, it'll be okay. Houston is

790
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: two and a half point favorite at home against Minnesota.

791
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: I mean against Miami. We know how to plays against

792
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: bad teams. Houston has been on a bye Miami on

793
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: the road. I eleen Houston here.

794
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's it's it's a two, A two, and

795
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 5: a couple of books now Houston. So wow, Yeah, early

796
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 5: professional money on Miami. That's another very confusing LINEA.

797
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: I agree. Why why is this line not three Houston?

798
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: I guess we perceive that.

799
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 5: You know, they're coming off a bye week planning against

800
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 5: the Miami team who's now on the road after going

801
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 5: to overtime. Don't we expect this to be a nice

802
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 5: spot for the Texans. But yeah, I'm yeah, and a

803
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 5: fishy number. It's like my my, My initial reaction is

804
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 5: I want to take Houston here, but I'll be patient

805
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 5: just because clearly a.

806
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 2: Smart group is coming and take Miami at the two

807
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: two and a half.

808
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: Three more games for me, Indie plus four at Denver.

809
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: I just feel like we got very lucky with Denver

810
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: the way they covered last week, and four feels like

811
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: a really big number for them still to be favored

812
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: by against the Colts team that is very well coached

813
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: coming off of by.

814
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, it's interesting.

815
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 5: I'll probably dive into the splits what Anthony Richison is

816
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 5: at home compared on the road, because he's been really

817
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 5: good to us, especially at home. This cold team this year,

818
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 5: like we've gotten away with a lot of that where

819
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 5: they've not definitely not been the same. I mean they

820
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 5: literally almost just lost outright to the Patriots on the road.

821
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 5: So maybe that's something the same thing with that Bears team.

822
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 5: We've I talked about with you weeks ago with you

823
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 5: that Caleb Williams and the Bears are a different team

824
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 5: on the road than they are at home. Like it's

825
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 5: some teams just are that way, and it's it played out,

826
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 5: especially today with that with the Bear team.

827
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: So I'll be interested dive into the splits.

828
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 5: That's another one I'll hold off on, Benning because I

829
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 5: agree with you first glance this should be three to

830
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 5: three and a half. I feels you are goin a

831
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 5: free point on that cold team, So I agree there

832
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 5: seems like there's a value right now in this Colts team.

833
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 3: I love when you agree with me.

834
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: Uh, why is Seattle a three point underdog at home

835
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: versus Green Bay? We didn't know what Seattle was, Yeah,

836
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: but I feel like their defense has been much better,

837
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: much much better since the buye. They've made a lot

838
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: of changes. They tackle better, Uh, they're better against the run,

839
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: they're better against the past like it. I couldn't be

840
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: more impressed with Mike McDonald. And we've seen offenses go

841
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: up and down the field against the green Bay defense

842
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: and Gino is not afraid to fling it. So this

843
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: feels weird to me that green Bay would go on

844
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: the road as a three point favorite. I think they're

845
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 1: getting too much credit in this game.

846
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 5: That's fair, But I mean we talked about a reason

847
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 5: I like the Vikings say is that your your division

848
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 5: is so fucking good, check like, and you beat up

849
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 5: on these teams outside of your division like they don't.

850
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 5: It's not something where like we've seen other divisions that

851
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 5: they struggle when they play out outside of conference, like

852
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 5: even the good teams. So yeah, Like, to me, green Bay,

853
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 5: especially after that Lions game, like they're a LEGITI playoff team,

854
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 5: Like they didn't have their best game against the Lions

855
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 5: and they almost stolen won that game.

856
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 2: Right right, And.

857
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 5: I still put them on a different level I do

858
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 5: the Seahawks. Seahawks feel like a six to seventh seed

859
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 5: that they could steal their division this year just because

860
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 5: it's a down year for the Rams and the forty

861
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 5: nine ers. Right, they could get away with one here.

862
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 5: But today I thought made a statement more about just

863
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 5: that that Kyler and that Cardinals team just ain't there yet, right,

864
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 5: They're They're just not ready.

865
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: And Gino has.

866
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 5: Proven even though he wasn't didn't have his best game,

867
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 5: he's he's a veteran quarterback who has earned what they

868
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 5: gave him those months ago. Right, they might win this division,

869
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 5: and that's a big deal. They fired Pete Carroll, Like

870
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 5: you said, this defense has totally flipped the script since

871
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 5: their bye week, and they've they really take on the

872
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 5: entity of their head coach. So yeah, the three is gone.

873
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 5: It's down to two and a half most books now, So.

874
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: See how sharp I am, Like I'm coming out on

875
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: the early line and like I'm saying which way the lines,

876
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: which what we should be doing here? The lines are

877
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: going in my direction every single time.

878
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: But I do with agree with the green Baby in

879
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: a favorite.

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00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 5: I do think that from the book's perspective of my perspective,

881
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 5: I think that is right that they're.

882
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: A better team that at home.

883
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 5: I'd have them in the playoffs if they had played

884
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 5: Seahawks at home in the playoffs.

885
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 2: I have it close to the five and a half six.

886
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 2: So this line feels right.

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00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 3: All right.

888
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: The other game we got to talk about, and then

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00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: I want to make sure we talk about and maybe

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00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 1: this is in your list Detroit Buffalo, Detroit's.

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00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 3: Two and a half point favorite the game of the week. Yeah,

892
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 3: give me the lines.

893
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm shocked. That's plus three, Like the lines open

894
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 5: plus three, I mean minus three. If it gets a

895
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 5: two and a half, I'll take I'll take the lines

896
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 5: with you. But at three I saw two and a half. Yeah,

897
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 5: two and a half. I would take the lines.

898
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: At three.

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00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 5: I lean towards Josh Allen. I mean, we just saw

900
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 5: it today. It's like he's never gonna stop coming. And

901
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 5: Dan Campbell, we already know the deal. Chad, It's all

902
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 5: gonna come down to him and what their fourth down

903
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 5: record is. If they're three for five on fourth down,

904
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 5: I'm feeling pretty good about holding that Josh Allen ticket.

905
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 5: Like the two of those fourth downs are gonna miss on.

906
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 5: He's gonna make them pay, especially coming off a loss.

907
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 5: He's just Josh Allen's at a different level right now.

908
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 5: I cannot believe if you bet that second half he

909
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 5: came back and cover that, Like the Rams basically played

910
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 5: a perfect game offensively and one by two. He is

911
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 5: just he's at that Mahomes level like we talked about

912
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 5: years ago with Mahomes, it's like you're never dead and

913
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 5: you bet on this guy and it's like a gift

914
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 5: right now betting on them where it's like, I still

915
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 5: can't believe he came back and covered that second half.

916
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 5: So yeah, you can tell I want to be on

917
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 5: the Bills. I just this Lions team, Like we talked

918
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 5: about that Green Bay number. Anything under three mean you

919
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 5: we're gonna be on the Lions. We said that from

920
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 5: the get go, but if it was over three, that's

921
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 5: where the value was, and that's where it was again.

922
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 5: So for a team that's not gonna be able to

923
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 5: stop back doors, I'm gonna I'm gonna want to be

924
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 5: on the Bills.

925
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 3: Here who you got.

926
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: Just before we go? Yeah?

927
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 3: Who else am I missing?

928
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 5: I Mean we pretty much went to the best games,

929
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 5: just the games that just jumped out for, you know,

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00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 5: playoff games that we didn't really talk about. Chargers Bucks

931
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 5: Chargers are minus three against this Bucks team. I'm gonna

932
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 5: take that Bucks number now just in case this Chargers

933
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 5: team gets smoked and this number drops, because that's another

934
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 5: game that feels priced.

935
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: Right. I got Chargers right around two.

936
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 5: It makes sense that the book hangs are three here

937
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 5: and yeah, the last one for me, I mean it's

938
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 5: it's it's gross. But Browns are plus six right now

939
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 5: against the Chiefs.

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00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: So I put that on my list. By the way,

941
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: it was six and a half when I put it

942
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: on the list. It's come down. Yeah, I just didn't

943
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: know if we had the stomach for another Jamis experience.

944
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: I have a snooker.

945
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 5: Jamis just not that kicker man, because it's just in

946
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 5: a game. Socially like the Chiefs, that's probably gonna matter.

947
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 5: But as we city right now, it's just like, that's

948
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 5: that's so many points for this team right now.

949
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: And this this Cleveland team that we saw today, they're

950
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: never done.

951
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 5: You really have to have them have a bunch of

952
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 5: other things back go negative for them to kind of

953
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 5: be out of it. So that was just a game

954
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 5: to jumped down. I know we've been on a run

955
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 5: here fading the Chief's team. Maybe they'll come the other way,

956
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 5: and maybe they're starting to be undervalued here. So that's

957
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 5: again not one that I bet. I'm just I just

958
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 5: thought it was interesting that they opened at six and

959
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 5: a half.

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