WEBVTT - David Marcus - West Virginia’s Hemingway 0:00:11.697 --> 0:00:14.977 You're listening to The buck Sexton Show podcastle make sure 0:00:14.977 --> 0:00:17.977 you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 0:00:18.017 --> 0:00:21.377 wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome everybody to the buck 0:00:21.417 --> 0:00:25.017 Sexton Show. I have with me the author of Charade, 0:00:25.137 --> 0:00:28.737 the COVID Laves that Crushed a Nation, and a general 0:00:28.777 --> 0:00:31.897 columnist the closest thing that West Virginia has right now 0:00:31.937 --> 0:00:36.217 to Ernest Hemingway, Mister David Marcus is with us for 0:00:36.297 --> 0:00:38.657 this episode. David Marcus, good to see you, sir. 0:00:39.417 --> 0:00:41.137 Thanks for having me. Mat It's nice to see you. 0:00:41.137 --> 0:00:42.937 You know, somebody asked me the other day this, I'm 0:00:42.977 --> 0:00:45.897 just wondering what you think what would happen if we 0:00:45.977 --> 0:00:49.617 had another, let's just say, a really bad flu season. 0:00:50.777 --> 0:00:53.377 Would you know, because you wrote your book on COVID, 0:00:53.777 --> 0:00:55.977 do you think that most of what was done before 0:00:56.017 --> 0:00:59.137 would be done again? You think they go back to it, not. 0:00:59.257 --> 0:01:02.337 Exactly in the same way. I think that. I think 0:01:02.377 --> 0:01:06.217 the American people have become a little too suspicious for that, 0:01:06.377 --> 0:01:08.577 especially sort of in red states. I mean, are there 0:01:08.617 --> 0:01:12.297 are parts of in Park Slope, Brooklyn if like the 0:01:12.337 --> 0:01:14.737 Democrats were like put your mask on, stay inside. 0:01:14.977 --> 0:01:17.217 Yeah, I mean they would love that. They would, you know, 0:01:17.417 --> 0:01:20.417 feel Marley superior again and it would be great. No, don't. 0:01:20.417 --> 0:01:23.017 I don't think it would work out exactly that way. 0:01:22.857 --> 0:01:25.217 But I do, you know, to the rest of your question, 0:01:25.257 --> 0:01:27.857 I do worry that COVID was a kind of dress rehearsal, 0:01:27.937 --> 0:01:32.737 whether intentionally or not, to sort of see ken society 0:01:33.497 --> 0:01:36.617 operate if everyone just stays home. And as I wrote 0:01:36.857 --> 0:01:39.697 in a column recently, sadly, the answer was sort of yes. 0:01:40.697 --> 0:01:42.897 And that's pretty scary looking forward. 0:01:43.017 --> 0:01:44.417 I mean, I will say that, you know, for me, 0:01:44.497 --> 0:01:46.697 I wasn't married, I didn't have kids during the pandemic. 0:01:46.857 --> 0:01:50.497 So now when I when I look at things, I 0:01:50.537 --> 0:01:54.657 look back at it. I mean, it was remarkable in 0:01:54.657 --> 0:01:56.937 so many ways, but there were parts of it where 0:01:56.937 --> 0:01:58.177 I was like, well, I guess I just get to 0:01:58.177 --> 0:02:01.897 stay home, not socialized, not go anywhere, and order food 0:02:01.937 --> 0:02:04.217 and watch Netflix and play video games. Like I took 0:02:04.297 --> 0:02:08.017 up PlayStation again because I had a lot of time 0:02:08.057 --> 0:02:09.537 on my hands when I wasn't doing radio. 0:02:10.697 --> 0:02:12.937 There was a moment I remember, like in the first 0:02:13.017 --> 0:02:15.897 week or two, because I believe I had gotten my 0:02:16.017 --> 0:02:18.857 son like a Nintendo Switch for Christmas, like a couple 0:02:18.977 --> 0:02:22.417 months before and there was like a run on Nintendo switches. 0:02:22.457 --> 0:02:24.617 Do you remember that, Like everyone everyone ran out because 0:02:24.657 --> 0:02:26.217 like this was the device that you could have that 0:02:26.257 --> 0:02:28.697 would like you know, oh, it was awful. 0:02:28.777 --> 0:02:30.657 You remember zoom Cocktails? Was that anything? 0:02:31.057 --> 0:02:33.057 Is there ever been a worse social event than the 0:02:33.137 --> 0:02:36.577 history of mankind than zoom Cocktails? 0:02:36.617 --> 0:02:41.577 It was so horrible And in Jumane it was a. 0:02:41.617 --> 0:02:44.177 Horrible book, we were told that we would never shake 0:02:44.217 --> 0:02:47.057 hands again. You remember this like that, like they were like, ah, 0:02:47.137 --> 0:02:49.817 handshaking is gone, and you know what's remarkable. I was 0:02:49.857 --> 0:02:53.657 doing I'm doing some research for a book. It's not 0:02:53.737 --> 0:02:55.617 a COVID book, but I was looking back at some 0:02:55.697 --> 0:02:58.337 of the stuff that happened in twenty twenty for it people. 0:02:58.617 --> 0:03:02.257 I don't think people even remember this that there was 0:03:02.297 --> 0:03:06.057 a period where they were actually telling everybody that first 0:03:06.057 --> 0:03:08.137 of all, they said don't get masks, which you remember 0:03:08.137 --> 0:03:09.977 there was that don't buy masks. So they told that 0:03:10.057 --> 0:03:14.097 everybody stop it. And Fauci's like doesn't really work. There 0:03:14.177 --> 0:03:18.417 was even CNN was doing stories in February of twenty twenty. 0:03:18.937 --> 0:03:21.177 Masking actually might make it more likely for you to 0:03:21.177 --> 0:03:24.057 get COVID because you'll change your risk parameters for what 0:03:24.097 --> 0:03:26.817 you're willing to do, thinking of more protection than you do, 0:03:27.057 --> 0:03:30.337 and you'll touch your face. And it went from that to, 0:03:30.977 --> 0:03:33.057 as we know, the complete insanity of like, if you're 0:03:33.097 --> 0:03:35.457 a good person, that means when you're hiking the rocky 0:03:35.497 --> 0:03:38.457 mountains alone, you mask up. You know what I mean? 0:03:38.537 --> 0:03:40.657 Miss step? No, you missed a step buck. 0:03:40.937 --> 0:03:43.617 There was a step in between, because obviously they were 0:03:43.617 --> 0:03:47.017 completely reversing themselves and or being like utter hypocrites about it. 0:03:47.297 --> 0:03:50.617 So remember how they explained that they said, oh well, 0:03:50.617 --> 0:03:53.217 we were actually wary of having you masking because we 0:03:53.217 --> 0:03:55.737 were worried we were going to run out for first responders, 0:03:55.977 --> 0:03:57.097 so don't leave. 0:03:57.257 --> 0:03:57.737 Remember that. 0:03:58.177 --> 0:04:00.857 Oh no, they had to lie to explain why they 0:04:00.857 --> 0:04:04.057 were lying, because the actual truth is, as I think 0:04:04.057 --> 0:04:06.697 people have started to figure out what they said initially 0:04:06.817 --> 0:04:08.737 was the case, which is that masks were a joke 0:04:08.777 --> 0:04:10.617 and weren't going to do anything. But then when they 0:04:10.657 --> 0:04:12.417 decided that masks had to be real, and they had 0:04:12.417 --> 0:04:14.697 already said, you know, had to be mandatory, and they 0:04:14.737 --> 0:04:17.577 said that they had changed their minds on this. They 0:04:17.617 --> 0:04:21.777 would rather light their credibility on fire than go against 0:04:21.817 --> 0:04:26.097 the religious ritual of masking that was created for really 0:04:26.137 --> 0:04:29.617 just mask compliance and mass conditioning. So no, man, I'm 0:04:30.257 --> 0:04:31.577 I feel like there's only a few of us who 0:04:31.657 --> 0:04:33.417 really Maybe it's the people that fled New York. I mean, 0:04:33.457 --> 0:04:35.057 you live in uh Am, I allowed to say on 0:04:35.097 --> 0:04:36.697 the air, do you tell people where you are? Just 0:04:36.737 --> 0:04:41.457 like he's in West Virginia. Yes, So that's pretty that's 0:04:41.457 --> 0:04:44.577 pretty free. I'm down in Florida, which it was a 0:04:44.657 --> 0:04:48.017 very common choice people fleeing New York. And I think 0:04:48.057 --> 0:04:50.497 the New Yorkers who fled more than anybody else because 0:04:50.497 --> 0:04:52.057 we got the brunt of it in the beginning too. 0:04:53.697 --> 0:04:57.777 We are all still traumatized by the other sides lunacy, 0:04:57.857 --> 0:05:00.097 not by COVID. Like I was fine with COVID. I 0:05:00.137 --> 0:05:02.137 was audi. I wasn't even worried about COVID. I was like, 0:05:02.177 --> 0:05:04.137 I don't even understand whatever it's so freaked out about. 0:05:04.217 --> 0:05:07.097 Pretty early on, like April of twenty twenty, I was like, 0:05:07.097 --> 0:05:10.817 I don't get it, But my god, people lost their 0:05:10.857 --> 0:05:12.937 minds and here we are. It hasn't been that long 0:05:13.417 --> 0:05:15.097 we forget all about it. So I don't know. I 0:05:15.097 --> 0:05:17.097 don't think the lessons have really been learned that's mine. 0:05:17.177 --> 0:05:18.737 That's the thing that upsets me. That's why I still 0:05:18.737 --> 0:05:21.737 talk about it. One there's no accountability now a book. 0:05:21.977 --> 0:05:23.457 And I hear you, you know, I listen to you 0:05:23.537 --> 0:05:26.057 guys when I'm picking my kid up from school, and 0:05:26.457 --> 0:05:29.737 I appreciate the fact that you do that. It's really 0:05:29.777 --> 0:05:31.537 the reason that I wrote the book, and it's reason 0:05:31.577 --> 0:05:33.737 that I wrote the book in real time. I mean, 0:05:33.737 --> 0:05:36.577 the book only goes from February of twenty twenty to 0:05:37.457 --> 0:05:40.017 write after the twenty twenty election, because I was writing 0:05:40.097 --> 0:05:42.857 it as I was covering the story for the Federalists, 0:05:42.897 --> 0:05:45.657 and I wanted it to be that fresh. And it's funny, 0:05:45.697 --> 0:05:47.897 like I'm now talking to a couple of people about 0:05:47.937 --> 0:05:52.857 maybe trying to do something in another realm with the book, 0:05:53.337 --> 0:05:55.217 and so I've been having to go back through it 0:05:55.497 --> 0:05:57.377 and just like you said, like there's so many of 0:05:57.377 --> 0:05:59.657 these things that like I just forgot happened, and I'm 0:05:59.697 --> 0:06:02.177 really glad that I wrote them down at the time, 0:06:02.217 --> 0:06:03.377 because I think we kind. 0:06:03.217 --> 0:06:03.937 Of want to forget. 0:06:04.777 --> 0:06:07.857 Yeah, And I also sense that there's and this is 0:06:07.897 --> 0:06:10.977 a little bit of what I'm I'm what I'm chasing 0:06:11.017 --> 0:06:12.977 down in the research that I'm doing these days for 0:06:13.017 --> 0:06:15.697 a project I'm working on, and it's just it's clear 0:06:15.777 --> 0:06:20.257 that there was something that the whole COVID phenomenon for people, 0:06:20.337 --> 0:06:23.497 and the way they responded to it, it became it 0:06:23.537 --> 0:06:26.537 was filling an emotional space for them, like an emotional 0:06:26.577 --> 0:06:35.537 psychological space, a deeply attached to emotional space. Because otherwise 0:06:36.497 --> 0:06:38.017 the people who were telling me, this is the thing 0:06:38.017 --> 0:06:40.137 that's always so remarkable to me, the people who were 0:06:40.137 --> 0:06:44.177 telling me you're a horrible person, your advice is killing people. 0:06:44.657 --> 0:06:47.497 Why are you so stupid? And there were thousands of 0:06:47.497 --> 0:06:49.217 them over the course the pandemic, you know, tweeting at me. 0:06:49.417 --> 0:06:52.497 I mean, do you know how many of them have sense? 0:06:53.217 --> 0:06:55.257 And even for things like schools need to be open, 0:06:55.377 --> 0:06:59.537 you know, like September twenty twenty, I'm like, the school 0:06:59.577 --> 0:07:02.537 should be open. This is insane, even those people, whatever 0:07:02.537 --> 0:07:06.177 the issue may be, vaccines don't stop the spread, which 0:07:06.257 --> 0:07:07.497 I think you can probably I don't know why you 0:07:07.617 --> 0:07:09.657 kicked off YouTube for that. They still pretend like that's 0:07:09.657 --> 0:07:11.577 not that is a fact. That is a hundred as 0:07:11.577 --> 0:07:13.417 we all know, one hundred percent of fact. Not a 0:07:13.457 --> 0:07:16.217 single person that I can think of e seeing not 0:07:16.257 --> 0:07:21.937 a single person has come back to me since then, online, email, 0:07:21.977 --> 0:07:24.697 whatever and said, wow, you're right, I'm sorry. 0:07:24.737 --> 0:07:28.097 Not one well well look I mean but you I mean, 0:07:28.137 --> 0:07:31.217 you answered your own question there book. The reason that 0:07:31.257 --> 0:07:33.577 you're not going to get that, at least not in 0:07:33.617 --> 0:07:36.017 the next twenty years is exactly what you said. 0:07:36.017 --> 0:07:41.177 That there was so much emotional investment, almost. 0:07:40.857 --> 0:07:46.257 Religious investment, and living by these precepts, living by these rules. 0:07:46.297 --> 0:07:49.177 This is the right and moral and just thing to do. 0:07:49.657 --> 0:07:53.417 You know, wear your masks, stay inside social distance, you know. 0:07:53.457 --> 0:07:56.657 And I think that especially for people on the left 0:07:56.817 --> 0:08:01.777 who lack any kind of like actual religion, this became 0:08:01.897 --> 0:08:05.737 something really valuable in their lives and really powerful that could, 0:08:06.337 --> 0:08:09.217 you know, for better or worse, attach them to something 0:08:09.337 --> 0:08:12.177 bigger than than which is a noble goal. 0:08:12.857 --> 0:08:16.257 It just in this case it was it was quite 0:08:16.297 --> 0:08:16.897 wrong headed. 0:08:18.297 --> 0:08:21.497 I want to also ask you, David, about the news 0:08:21.497 --> 0:08:23.577 of this week, which was the Hunter Biden plea deal, 0:08:23.617 --> 0:08:27.297 which you may have seen on off, on off now 0:08:27.337 --> 0:08:30.857 off as we speak, and how this factors into people 0:08:30.977 --> 0:08:33.737 really having Here's I don't want you to answer this 0:08:33.817 --> 0:08:35.017 question yet because I have to have a word from 0:08:35.057 --> 0:08:36.457 our sponsor, but I want to put the question out 0:08:36.457 --> 0:08:38.097 there for everyone to think about, for you to think about. 0:08:38.697 --> 0:08:42.497 People approach me now listeners, they approach me and and 0:08:42.537 --> 0:08:47.857 they have a seething disdain for a whole range of 0:08:47.937 --> 0:08:51.697 institutions in this country. 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All right, what do you think, David institutions, 0:10:08.697 --> 0:10:11.497 things like the FBI, the c the d o J, 0:10:11.897 --> 0:10:17.137 the CIA, the EPA, the good on the list defensible? 0:10:17.217 --> 0:10:18.617 What do we do about these places? 0:10:20.537 --> 0:10:23.337 These are very hard questions. I want to say. 0:10:23.337 --> 0:10:25.657 In the fall of last year, I had just started 0:10:25.697 --> 0:10:29.177 writing for The Daily Mail, who I write for fairly 0:10:29.217 --> 0:10:33.297 regularly now, and they reached out to me after I'd 0:10:33.297 --> 0:10:35.177 only written there a couple of times, and one of 0:10:35.177 --> 0:10:36.897 my editors was like, do you want to write an 0:10:36.937 --> 0:10:39.937 article a column basically saying like, maybe it's time to 0:10:39.937 --> 0:10:42.897 get rid of the FBI? And I thought, boy, that's 0:10:42.897 --> 0:10:46.937 an awfully big thing. To say, I don't know, like, 0:10:47.297 --> 0:10:50.177 can we talk this through? And we talked it through. 0:10:50.977 --> 0:10:54.377 And there was the Trump raid at Mara Lago, and 0:10:54.417 --> 0:10:57.097 how different that was from how the Bidens have been treated. 0:10:57.137 --> 0:11:00.817 There was you know, spying on Catholics. There was taking 0:11:00.857 --> 0:11:04.537 down license plate numbers at school board meetings where parents 0:11:04.577 --> 0:11:08.097 were asking perfectly reasonable questions about their children's education and 0:11:08.537 --> 0:11:12.497 whether they're being exposed to appropriate material at school. Long 0:11:12.537 --> 0:11:15.297 story short, I wound up writing the column because when 0:11:15.337 --> 0:11:19.497 I tabulated at all, I said, this is not sustainable. Now, look, 0:11:20.937 --> 0:11:23.457 I hope it can be fixed. I mean, I think 0:11:23.457 --> 0:11:26.937 we do need some form of federal law enforcement. But 0:11:27.377 --> 0:11:29.497 there's no trust in the FBI right now, and the 0:11:29.577 --> 0:11:32.057 FBI hasn't earned any trust, So what are we supposed 0:11:32.097 --> 0:11:32.777 to do about that? 0:11:33.097 --> 0:11:35.297 I do think it's also interesting when you look at 0:11:35.337 --> 0:11:40.857 the support that RFK Junior has gotten in this election cycle, 0:11:41.937 --> 0:11:43.457 it's a little bit tight in what we're talking about 0:11:43.457 --> 0:11:46.097 with how we now are as a country supposed to 0:11:46.137 --> 0:11:47.977 pretend that all the COVID stuff and FAUCI and the 0:11:48.017 --> 0:11:50.937 mandatory shots and the vaccine passports and the you know, 0:11:51.257 --> 0:11:53.817 Biden administration mandating everybody has to get the shot in 0:11:53.857 --> 0:11:55.617 the Supreme Court having to overturn it him. What an 0:11:55.617 --> 0:11:59.457 absolute disaster, What a monstrosity they really engaged in. But 0:12:00.537 --> 0:12:03.737 our FK. Junior goes beyond that because he's he's really 0:12:03.777 --> 0:12:06.777 taking it to the FDA as well as the CDC 0:12:06.937 --> 0:12:08.417 and the NIH and all the rest of them. And 0:12:08.777 --> 0:12:12.057 you know, when you can't trust that health authorities in 0:12:12.137 --> 0:12:14.897 a country that feels like a whole I feel like 0:12:14.937 --> 0:12:16.977 that's a level beyond right, like it used to be 0:12:16.977 --> 0:12:18.337 that everybody trusted their doctor. 0:12:20.577 --> 0:12:23.977 I mean, look, it is, and I think that it's 0:12:24.017 --> 0:12:27.057 a very similar story to the FBI and to the 0:12:27.057 --> 0:12:29.017 Department of Justice. 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That's Chalk cchoq dot 0:14:19.657 --> 0:14:21.377 com and use my name buck when you go to 0:14:21.457 --> 0:14:25.137 check out for thirty five percent off. Dave, where are 0:14:25.217 --> 0:14:28.977 you on UFOs. 0:14:30.097 --> 0:14:31.377 Man? I don't know. I mean I was a big 0:14:31.497 --> 0:14:34.017 X Files fan. Love that show. 0:14:34.097 --> 0:14:34.817 Does it hold up? 0:14:34.857 --> 0:14:34.937 Like? 0:14:34.977 --> 0:14:37.057 Can I go back? I tried to watch The Matrix 0:14:37.097 --> 0:14:38.697 with the wife, usually because she had never seen it. 0:14:38.697 --> 0:14:41.337 I've seen it like twenty times. I think the Matrix 0:14:41.457 --> 0:14:44.177 movie is phenomenal even to this day, like it's still 0:14:44.217 --> 0:14:46.257 really really good. Could you go back and watch the 0:14:46.337 --> 0:14:47.057 X Files? You think? 0:14:47.977 --> 0:14:51.817 Yeah? No, I mean I have no I do think. 0:14:51.937 --> 0:14:53.777 I mean in part, I just think because it was so. 0:14:53.697 --> 0:14:56.217 Smartly written and there's good performances and those are those 0:14:56.217 --> 0:14:57.537 are things that sort of carry through. 0:14:57.577 --> 0:15:01.537 But I don't know UFOs, I. 0:15:01.497 --> 0:15:04.097 Think that Wait, can I just tell everybody at home before? 0:15:04.497 --> 0:15:06.617 I mean, they're having hearings on Capitol Hill about this 0:15:06.657 --> 0:15:09.137 and people are testifying under oath, like, so this is 0:15:09.177 --> 0:15:11.257 the thing I'm not I don't do There are other 0:15:11.297 --> 0:15:13.977 shows that they're like, oh, like Bigfoot and UFOs, like, 0:15:14.097 --> 0:15:16.537 that's not this show, it's not me. But when they're 0:15:16.537 --> 0:15:20.097 having depositions or hearings on Capitol Hill and people are 0:15:20.097 --> 0:15:22.737 swearing under oath that they saw something that the uf like, 0:15:22.817 --> 0:15:24.937 you know what I mean, we got to deal with it, 0:15:25.017 --> 0:15:26.217 I think, so anyway, go ahead? 0:15:26.937 --> 0:15:27.937 Yeah, I mean, look, I. 0:15:27.857 --> 0:15:31.257 Don't know, Like most of what I've heard independent from 0:15:31.297 --> 0:15:33.497 news stories are the things for people who I've known 0:15:33.537 --> 0:15:35.217 in the military. And I don't know if you've heard 0:15:35.257 --> 0:15:37.377 these stories, but like I've known, you know, guys who 0:15:37.377 --> 0:15:39.177 were in the Air Force or you know, guys who 0:15:39.217 --> 0:15:42.777 are you know, sort of stationed at different places where 0:15:42.777 --> 0:15:47.177 they saw weird things that like they couldn't explain. I 0:15:47.217 --> 0:15:50.857 don't know. I think that that, you know. I mean, 0:15:50.897 --> 0:15:52.657 I don't know, Buck you were in the CIA, right, 0:15:52.697 --> 0:15:54.377 I mean, there's there's things. 0:15:54.177 --> 0:15:57.697 We have don't talk about, and maybe we don't know 0:15:57.697 --> 0:15:59.537 if it's a UFO or not. Is a good way 0:15:59.577 --> 0:16:00.257 to not have to. 0:16:00.217 --> 0:16:03.297 Talk about this thing that like and maybe the government 0:16:03.337 --> 0:16:04.297 shouldn't be talking about. 0:16:04.337 --> 0:16:06.337 I just don't know, man. 0:16:07.297 --> 0:16:11.777 Interesting, you take almost an agnostic position on the UFOs, right, 0:16:11.857 --> 0:16:13.697 Like you're not. You're not saying yes, you're not saying 0:16:13.737 --> 0:16:14.937 no no. 0:16:15.057 --> 0:16:18.857 And I'm also I've always been dubious about intelligent life 0:16:19.217 --> 0:16:21.857 on other planets, you know, for a couple of reasons. 0:16:21.857 --> 0:16:24.937 I mean one, you know, I guess as a Catholic, 0:16:25.017 --> 0:16:26.097 it would it would. 0:16:26.697 --> 0:16:29.017 Throw some kind of monkey wrench into at least the 0:16:29.017 --> 0:16:33.177 most basic understanding of Christian theology, although the Catholic Church 0:16:33.177 --> 0:16:35.697 has always been very good at being able to bring things. 0:16:35.737 --> 0:16:37.417 I mean, it was a Jesuit who came up with 0:16:37.457 --> 0:16:40.337 the Big Bang theory, so science and the Catholic Church 0:16:40.337 --> 0:16:43.777 coexists very well. The bigger reason for me is just 0:16:44.137 --> 0:16:47.857 to me, it seems like such a bizarre confluence of 0:16:47.897 --> 0:16:52.577 events that led to human intelligence that it doesn't strike 0:16:52.657 --> 0:16:55.257 me as particularly likely that even in a universe as 0:16:55.257 --> 0:16:59.937 big as ours, those precise things happening over millions and 0:16:59.977 --> 0:17:03.137 millions of years all led to someone who I can 0:17:03.177 --> 0:17:05.977 you know, have a conversation about with the Yankees or something. 0:17:06.297 --> 0:17:09.777 Yeah, I think that I also take this maybe different 0:17:09.817 --> 0:17:11.377 for sophical point of view on this from a lot 0:17:11.417 --> 0:17:14.217 of people, just you know, so I am very skeptical. 0:17:14.257 --> 0:17:16.897 Clay on a radio show as a believer, So we're 0:17:17.697 --> 0:17:21.257 Scolder and Mully or Mulley and Scolder or whatever. And 0:17:21.337 --> 0:17:24.257 I'm in the skeptic category here, and the audience that 0:17:24.257 --> 0:17:28.377 at least that writes in is overwhelmingly, you know, outrage 0:17:28.417 --> 0:17:30.777 that my skepticism over UFOs. And I sit here and 0:17:30.777 --> 0:17:33.937 I just say, I don't think that we need to 0:17:33.977 --> 0:17:36.017 think that there are UFOs and little green men to 0:17:36.057 --> 0:17:39.337 think that the world that we live in is still 0:17:39.417 --> 0:17:44.097 so far beyond beyond our comprehension understanding, and you know, 0:17:44.697 --> 0:17:46.657 I don't know, like I just think that it almost 0:17:46.737 --> 0:17:51.937 makes it seem it's a simplification of what's out there 0:17:51.977 --> 0:17:53.697 in my mind to think that all there just must 0:17:53.737 --> 0:17:56.697 be like people like us out there well no, or 0:17:56.777 --> 0:18:00.617 you know, little green men, whatever it is. But beyond that, 0:18:00.657 --> 0:18:07.857 we face such interesting questions and quandaries here in the 0:18:08.017 --> 0:18:10.817 known world still that I don't think that we have 0:18:10.897 --> 0:18:14.297 to enter into like intergalactic travel for things to be interesting. 0:18:14.337 --> 0:18:15.177 I don't know. That's just mine. 0:18:16.137 --> 0:18:18.897 The best, the best, the best evidence I've ever seen 0:18:18.937 --> 0:18:21.977 for the existence of aliens is Leo Messi. You know, 0:18:22.177 --> 0:18:24.737 I've watched Leo Messi do things on a soccer field 0:18:24.737 --> 0:18:26.897 that sometimes make me think Okay, he can't be a 0:18:26.977 --> 0:18:29.777 human being, but I mean that's aside from that. 0:18:30.177 --> 0:18:30.897 Yeah, I'm skeptic. 0:18:31.697 --> 0:18:35.057 Yeah, he's the Miami resident. Now he's joining the revolution 0:18:35.417 --> 0:18:39.457 down in Miami. So it's interesting stuff, Dave. I'll get 0:18:39.457 --> 0:18:41.297 you on on one more thing here, But before we 0:18:41.337 --> 0:18:43.217 get to it, are we going to see a big 0:18:43.297 --> 0:18:46.137 change in currency in our lifetime? Some people think so, 0:18:46.137 --> 0:18:49.737 So what's going to happen? Well? Former Wall Street insider 0:18:49.777 --> 0:18:53.497 Tika to Wai follows our nation's economy, writes about it regularly, 0:18:54.017 --> 0:18:56.417 and he believes that our federal government could announce a 0:18:56.417 --> 0:18:58.857 mandatory recall in the US dollar and exchange it with 0:18:58.897 --> 0:19:01.297 a new digital version. How different would that be from 0:19:01.377 --> 0:19:04.217 using debit or Apple pay or whatever. Well, he's got 0:19:04.257 --> 0:19:06.217 a lot of thoughts on the subject, which you can 0:19:06.257 --> 0:19:09.817 see he's put online for everybody. 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Like what's just like a top of mind 0:19:37.017 --> 0:19:41.297 thing for David Marcus to consider for the world. 0:19:42.577 --> 0:19:45.337 I've been given a lot of thought to the future 0:19:45.377 --> 0:19:48.137 of social media and especially sort of what I'm saying 0:19:48.177 --> 0:19:48.977 on Twitter. 0:19:49.017 --> 0:19:50.977 I think I sort of have the reputation of being 0:19:50.977 --> 0:19:51.737 an Elon. 0:19:51.537 --> 0:19:56.577