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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Chris Hayrey with you on Chargers Weekly. We've

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Speaker 1: got a really good episode today. Rob rang of NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft scout dot Com previews next week's NFL scouting combine.

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Speaker 1: But first, it seemed like the Chargers with a poster

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Speaker 1: boys of Pro Football Focus. In twenty seventeen, PF senior

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Speaker 1: analyst Steve Palazzolo joins me to discuss the highest graded

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Speaker 1: Chargers from last season. We'll also touch on some of

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Speaker 1: the prospects to watch next week in Indie. All right,

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Speaker 1: Steve Palazzolo of Pro Football Focus joins me on Chargers Weekly,

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Speaker 1: and Steve I joked earlier in the season that the

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Speaker 1: Chargers were sponsored by PF because seemingly every week I

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Speaker 1: saw a graphic with Casey Hayward or Joey Bosa, Melvin

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Speaker 1: Ingram keenan Allen. The numbers seem to show that you

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Speaker 1: guys liked what you saw out of the Bolts this season.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, especially those high end players. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Casey Hayward was our top graded corner, and Bosa We've

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Speaker 1: been touting him since he came out of college. He

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Speaker 1: Keenan Allen was a top five or top ten receiver

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Speaker 1: last year. And Hunter Henry as well. Don't forget about

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Speaker 1: Chargers I think definitely had had great seasons in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just want to go over some of

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Speaker 1: with Casey hay because he was number five on PFF's

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Speaker 1: wide margin, Steve, I think ninety six point four, and

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Speaker 1: I think the highest graded corner ever was Drell Reeves

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Speaker 1: at ninety six point six. In two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 1: Jason RTT went down a week one, but Hayward certainly

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Speaker 1: elevated his play really to an all time level according

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Speaker 1: to PFF. Yeah, he really did. And it's really not

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Speaker 1: fair to compare anybody. Two thousand and nine, Darell Reevens

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Speaker 1: all the role that he filled was also you know,

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Speaker 1: covery number ones every single week, but Hayward did some

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Speaker 1: fifty eight point six when targeted, and allowed only forty

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Speaker 1: you're talking about when quarterbacks were targeting Casey Hayward, they're

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Speaker 1: putting up numbers well below the worst quarterback in the league.

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Speaker 1: So on the field, he was absolutely fantastic. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, the questions about Hayward in the past. You know,

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Speaker 1: But even historically he's always graded well for us, whether

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Speaker 1: And outside of maybe that one one deep pass he

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Speaker 1: with an average of seventeen point seven cover snaps played

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Speaker 1: was targeted at least fifteen times less than he was.

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Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. What that shows me is when Verrette went down,

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Speaker 1: The next two guys, Melvin Ingram Joey Bosa twenty four

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Speaker 1: I think Ingram had seventy six and both had seventy five.

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Speaker 1: things from him from year three, Steve. Last I want

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Speaker 1: discussion NFL Scouting Combined, Rob rang of NFL Draft Scout

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Speaker 1: joins me. Rob. How you doing, sir, I'm Joe. Well,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me. You know, Rob, you wrote this

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Speaker 1: in your latest column. Obviously, the two most important things

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Speaker 1: for an NFL team at Indie is the medical in

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Speaker 1: that all important interview. But as a draft analyst who's

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Speaker 1: been doing this for a long time, what's most intriguing

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Speaker 1: to you about next week in Indianapolis? You know, I

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Speaker 1: think that a lot of fans would say that's the

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Speaker 1: vertical jump for forty yard gash the bench press, but

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Speaker 1: for me, it remains the interview process. I think that's it.

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Speaker 1: Takes an exceptional young man who is going to work

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Speaker 1: even harder after signing a multi million dollar contract. And

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Speaker 1: with my background, you mentioned that I've been been scouting

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Speaker 1: for a long time. I've been going to the senior

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Speaker 1: Bolts of two thousand and one to the Combines of

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Speaker 1: two thousand and six, and in those years, I can't

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Speaker 1: tell you how many times I've watched a player and

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Speaker 1: just kind of, you know, read his body language, look

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Speaker 1: into his eyes and thought, this is the type of

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Speaker 1: persons who does have that work ethic necessary, that's fire

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Speaker 1: to the absolutely exhaust every bit of their potential to

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Speaker 1: be as good as they possibly can, and then have

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Speaker 1: their and push their their stock not much higher up

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Speaker 1: my board based on those interviews, and unfortunately the opposite

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Speaker 1: can be true as well. So every year I look

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Speaker 1: forward to having conversations with these players to kind of

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Speaker 1: try and get a steal for who they are as

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Speaker 1: as men and if they are the type of people

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Speaker 1: who are going to do everything they possibly can to

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Speaker 1: become the great player that their their natural talents suggests

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Speaker 1: that they can be. Rob That's such an interesting way

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Speaker 1: to put it, because you know, it's such a subjective

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Speaker 1: process when you go through interviewing prospects and just their temperament,

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Speaker 1: and it's such an important thing though. You have to

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Speaker 1: really take that whole piece of pie, the tape, the combine,

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Speaker 1: and then really who they are off the field and

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Speaker 1: in their work ethic. How difficult do you think that

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Speaker 1: piece of the pie for NFL teams. I think that

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Speaker 1: can be very difficult. I think that there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of people out there who focus too much attention on

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Speaker 1: just the tape, or especially those who focus just on

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Speaker 1: the vegetable. The complement provides the mention like the forty

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Speaker 1: yard gash or the bench press. I mean, there are

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Speaker 1: some players in this year's draft who played very fast,

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Speaker 1: if it may not run very well in the in

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Speaker 1: the forty yard gash or or the same thing. As

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Speaker 1: far as their strength. They may not have the numbers

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Speaker 1: in terms of the bench press, but they place to

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Speaker 1: physical brand of football and they have the initial explosiveness.

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Speaker 1: That's that's just so much more important to the game

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Speaker 1: than that thirty fifth repetition of two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: five pounds. You know, to think of that nature I

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Speaker 1: think are critical. I think that the teams that do

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Speaker 1: the best job of it take all the different pieces

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Speaker 1: of information and try to compile that, and then there's

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Speaker 1: a marriage so to between the scouting staff and the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff, and the coaches are you know, they're looking

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Speaker 1: for certain types of players that they're sitting in their scheme,

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Speaker 1: and they have to be able to articulate that to

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Speaker 1: their scouts. So the scouts can come back and have

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Speaker 1: those draft games where they can say, okay, if you

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Speaker 1: want players with short area quickness or fluid hits or

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Speaker 1: whatever the case. The specific attribute might be that those

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Speaker 1: scouts think can identify those players and just streamline streamline

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Speaker 1: that process for the coaches so they can get the

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Speaker 1: best possible players for this specific scheme. Rob this year

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Speaker 1: seems to be the year of the quarterback. There doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem to be a consensus at the top. I think

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Speaker 1: as many as five could probably go in the first round,

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Speaker 1: including the two from sc and UCLA here in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: How important is it for these guys to actually throw

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Speaker 1: at the combine and throw well, given how close they

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Speaker 1: all seem to be at the top, I think that

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Speaker 1: it is a little bit more important this year for

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Speaker 1: those quarterbacks to to throw up to combine and of course,

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Speaker 1: if they are competing in anything, then you want them

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Speaker 1: to perform well. But even if they don't perform well

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Speaker 1: at the combine, then you'd like to see some improvements

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Speaker 1: at their pro day, which you know, let's face it,

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Speaker 1: a quarterback at their pro day, it should be a

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Speaker 1: mere flawless performance because everything is scripted. They are taking

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Speaker 1: in their own they're in their own beds and things

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Speaker 1: of that nature, you know, the night before, and so

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Speaker 1: it shouldn't be the grind that the combine is um.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, and I think that it

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Speaker 1: is still a workout, and so I dazzling if somebody

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Speaker 1: might be during a during a workout, that that should

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Speaker 1: match up with what we see on the tape during

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Speaker 1: the games. You know, obviously there's the more important thing,

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Speaker 1: especially the quarterback position. You know, Rob, the Chargers are

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Speaker 1: a team with championship aspirations in twenty eighteen, but you

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Speaker 1: can't ignore the fact that Philip Rivers thirty six years old.

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Speaker 1: Mindless league for a long time, and at some point

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Speaker 1: you need to address the future. With a draft as

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Speaker 1: loaded as it seems to be at quarterback, could you

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Speaker 1: make the case for the Chargers finding their future quarterback

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Speaker 1: in one of the first three rounds this year. I

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Speaker 1: absolutely too. I think that just about every team that

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Speaker 1: should be looking at quarterbacks from the first three to

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Speaker 1: four rounds this year just becauthetic to this class. Is

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Speaker 1: that good? Uh? You know, it's we live in an

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Speaker 1: era where hyperbole is so common, um, you know, or

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Speaker 1: there's all types of lofty preis year after the year.

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Speaker 1: But as I mentioned, I've been doing this for a

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Speaker 1: long time, and I think this is one of the

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Speaker 1: strongest draft classes that we've seen, at least during my career. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think this is very comparable to a

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Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve class that that's science one from

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Speaker 1: the third built that Cook Cousins professor will suits Nick Foles.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's no reports that class or everyone lost

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Speaker 1: as the greatest of all time. The night teen eighty

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Speaker 1: three class the only class that had six quarterbacks go

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Speaker 1: in the first round. I think that there will be

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Speaker 1: at least five quarterbacks that go this year. So we're

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Speaker 1: talking about like a group that could compare to that

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Speaker 1: same nineteen eighty three class that you know, let off

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Speaker 1: with Hall of Famer John Elway and also a Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer Jim Kelly and Hall of Famer Game Marino

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Speaker 1: among those six. I think it's crazy talk at this

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Speaker 1: point to say that any of the quarterbacks this year

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Speaker 1: in the twenty eighteen tracks of our future Hall of Famers,

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Speaker 1: because there's just so many things that go into that equation.

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Speaker 1: But that said, I am very excited about this year's

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Speaker 1: rock class. I mentioned before. I think there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: five quarterbacks go in the first round. But I believe

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Speaker 1: that both of those quarterbacks that come from that LA area,

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Sam Donald from the USC, Josh Rhodes

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Speaker 1: is UCLA, Josh Allen from Wyoming, Baker Mayfield from Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: and Lamar Taxon from Louisville, that they in my opinion

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Speaker 1: as flam dunk essentially first round quarterbacks. And then you

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Speaker 1: might see another quarterback and jump into that mix as well.

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Speaker 1: And Mason Rudolph and even Kyle Aletta from Little Old Hichman,

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Speaker 1: who was you know, dominant the Senior Bowl wound up

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Speaker 1: being the game's MVP. I think say he has a

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Speaker 1: chance to sneak up into that range. So you know,

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Speaker 1: if the Chargers, there's other teams that have a you know,

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Speaker 1: potentially dry our same quarterback already on their roster very

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Speaker 1: age one of Faust to charge the June close to

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers been Yeah, I think this is the one

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Speaker 1: thless draft classic. Then you can draft the player in

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Speaker 1: the second third, perhaps even the fourth round, because there's

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Speaker 1: just the show. Many teams are gonna reflecting quarterbacks, so

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be some players who naturally fall down the

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Speaker 1: board a little bit. But if he's not able to

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Speaker 1: find a Mike White from Western Kentuckyan third or fourth round, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, or a curtain banker from Virginia with the

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Speaker 1: same area and I mentioned Kyloletta. Uh, these are types

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Speaker 1: of guys. I think he can be very successful um

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Speaker 1: and in the Chargers offense. So I think they're looking

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Speaker 1: for a quarterback who can doesn't necessarily have to be

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Speaker 1: flee to foot if you're going to go with the

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers style, but have to be tough, has to

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Speaker 1: be accurate, has to be smart. In those three quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: who I just mentioned, I think would fit in very nicely.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. I just looked at my sheet.

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Speaker 1: The next two names I had on my list after

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Speaker 1: talking about these five quarterbacks in the first round Mason

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Speaker 1: Rudolph and Kyle Aletta. But I want to go back

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Speaker 1: to Lamar Jackson real quick, because I think most people

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Speaker 1: believe that he's going to be a first round NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But you know, we've heard some speculation about, oh, maybe

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Speaker 1: he should move to wide receiver. What do you see

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Speaker 1: when you put on a tape of Lamar Jackson and

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Speaker 1: how his game translates to the NFL. I think that

645
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson can be an NFL wide receiver because he

646
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: is just that fantastic of an athlete. I just think

647
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,239
Speaker 1: that you're taking away some of the things that make

648
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: him so special, and that is at the quarterback position.

649
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: So you know, to me, it's a it's a compliment

650
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: when you say that a player could potentially make a

651
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: transition to a different position at the highest level. In

652
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: my opinion, Lamar Jackson should be an NFL quarterback at

653
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Speaker 1: least initially, and then if he struggles or if the

654
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: team feels that he would be better stood louder of

655
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: a position, and that's a conversation that they can have

656
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: at that point. But the study improvement that Lamar Jackson

657
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: showed over his three seasons that have a starting quarterback

658
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: at Louisville, in terms of accuracy, in terms of his

659
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: ability to recognize defenses, to be able to bait safetyes

660
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: by looking one way and throwing the other. Those are

661
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: all reasons why I believe that Lamar Jackson will be

662
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: drafted as a quarterback. It has a bright future in

663
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: the NFL app the quarterback position. That said, there are

664
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: some obvious negatives about it. The Louisville could not run

665
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: the most complicated of pro styles teams, and Lamar Jackson

666
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: had a relatively slam frame that you worry about durability.

667
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: Is he going to be able to withstand the punishment

668
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: that he's going to face about only as the quarterback

669
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: game hit in a pocket, but of course when he

670
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: leaves that pocket, then just the size and physicality that

671
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: he's going to be facing in the NFL is so

672
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: much greater that you do worry that physically he will

673
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: break down. And so there are definitely reasons why you

674
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: can suggest that Lamar Jackson couldn't make a transition to

675
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: a different position in the NFL. That does not necessarily

676
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: mean that he will not be successful as a traditional

677
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback. Rob I think the reason you may be

678
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: able to think about filling a future need early like

679
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Is the fact that your two top picks

680
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: from last year, if you're the Chargers, they didn't really

681
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: make much of an impact in twenty seventeen. Forest Slamp

682
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: didn't see the field, Mike Williams came back late, really

683
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: had to catch up a lot. What did you make

684
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: a Forest Slamp and Mike Williams exactly a year ago?

685
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: Going through this process because these guys essentially are going

686
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: to be rookies in their second year, Yeah, exactly. I

687
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: think that the Charger scans have a walk to be

688
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: excited about. Mike Williams can be that that that other

689
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: talented wide receiver to compliment which you already have on

690
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: the roster. Um. You know, this is a is a

691
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: big athlete, a player that I mentioned before earlier in

692
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: an interview about some guys you don't necessarily run fast

693
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: as straight line that they play fast, and Mike Williams

694
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: is exactly fast. I mean there's I watched him railway

695
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: from from cornerbacks who wound up running faster than him

696
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: in the forty yard dash. When when Mike Williams is

697
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: being so productive while at Clemson. I saw him go

698
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: up and get the ball out of the hands and

699
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: out box them windows windows contest fifty balls over corners

700
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 1: or safeties that that jumped higher than him in the

701
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: forty year in the vertical jump. And so Mike Williams

702
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: is a football player. And so I think the anytime

703
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: you have a quarterback as get to this Philip Rivers

704
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: and all the skill positions count the charges already have

705
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: on the field, that Mike Williams can be the kind

706
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: of guy that can put you over the top. Um.

707
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: You know, we all know that the dural build, the

708
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: questions that that keenan Out was struggled with throughout his career.

709
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: But in my opinion, he is a number one receiver

710
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: when he is healthy. And so an athlete like adding

711
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: an athlete like Mike Williams too bad equation. I just

712
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: think sets up very well for the Chargers. And you know,

713
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: of course that you're going to be successful in passing

714
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: the football, then you have to have that protection up front.

715
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: And Forest Lamp, you know, was a spectacular player during

716
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: his career. Uh you know at Western Kentucky. I remember

717
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: watching him in person at the Senior Bowl and it

718
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: didn't really, it didn't matter who he went up against.

719
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: His ability to to doominate the point of attack with

720
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Speaker 1: his initial punch, his lateral agility to balanced his his

721
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: core strength. I think that he is going to make

722
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: a pretty quick transition inside to guard to be very

723
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: successful there. Um, you know it was it was one

724
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: of the real sad, unfortunate injuries of this season that

725
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: he struggled. You know, with that with that twenty eight

726
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: feat if he'll be coming back and be as strong

727
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: as everybody. He is one of those players I mentioned

728
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: before about guys that you just you look into their

729
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: eyes and you believe this is a player who's gonam

730
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Speaker 1: maximize his talent. I think the Forest Lamp will do that,

731
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: and charges Fams are gonna be very happy with the

732
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 1: selection with Mike Williams then Forrest Slamp moving forward. Yeah,

733
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: and you look for silver linings when unfortunate things like

734
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: that happen. You know, Mike Williams got hurt in the

735
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: offseason in mini camp and then Forest Lamp goes down

736
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: to training camp. You win nine of your last twelve games,

737
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: and you can insert these two really good young players

738
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Speaker 1: into the lineup and hopefully build off of twenty seventeen success. Rob,

739
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: I looked at your latest mock draft and Chargers fans,

740
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: you want to check it out, go to NFL draft

741
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: scout dot com. You have the Chargers selecting Deron Payne

742
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: from Alabama and if he's available, it makes a ton

743
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: of sense put him in that D line rotation alongside

744
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: Bosa and Ingram. What do you like about Payne's game, Rob, strength,

745
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just his power to That is the

746
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: very first I think about with this guy. You know,

747
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: his weight room prowess. I mean, he's been, you know,

748
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: a YouTube legend since high school. Um, you know, but

749
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: it's it's not only that. I mean that that's obviously

750
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: an important role if you're gonna be a run steffer,

751
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: but it's the it's the customers that he demonstrates, the

752
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: leadership that he demonstrated while Alabama. Um, you know, it

753
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't coincidence that when when Georgia tried to

754
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: run the ball up the middle um in the National

755
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: Championship game, that they found themselves in all kind of

756
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: troubled because that's Jerontan there, Arry, excuse me. And so

757
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: his ability to hold up to the point of attack

758
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: against even multiple blockers. Hes got kind of a short,

759
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: squatty frame that's just so condusive to to playing that role. Um.

760
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: I think that that fits in very well, especially with

761
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: the you know, run defense was a struggle for the

762
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: Charges a year ago. I think if they have the

763
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: talent already in place to be able to to maximize

764
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: and to make a significant jump in that statistic run

765
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: defense m a year from now with a little bit

766
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: more help, with a little bit more youth at that position.

767
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: M a big fan of Brandon Mebane and what he

768
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: has done at the NFL level, and I also just

769
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: think that he's a planet that is kind of on

770
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: the on the down side of the of his career,

771
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: So you could add another player to compliment him. I

772
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: think that that might put the Chargers in a position

773
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: to be successful. And you know, we're seeing what you

774
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: get into the playoff kind of run. That's what team

775
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, when the buzzer starts to change, it gets cold,

776
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: teams are going to try to run the ball right

777
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: down in their throat. That's one of the things that

778
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles just proved and how they were able

779
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: to kind of mitigate Tom Brady in New England's up

780
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: Temple offense was to control the clock, and so that time,

781
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: I think something the Chargers did a great job of

782
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: that on the offensive side of the ball with Melvic

783
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: Gordon a year ago, and it's gonna be a little

784
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: bit more of the priority to do that on the

785
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball this year for Chilly for

786
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: Charger's hand, if a player like darn Payne or a

787
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: Vita Dance from Washington is not available, this is a

788
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: strong defective tack of class and there are run stuffers

789
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: to be had the second, third rounds as well. You know,

790
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: it's a great segue into running back because this class

791
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 1: is absolutely loaded, Rob. I mean, you have Saquon Barkley

792
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: at the top, but you mentioned Melvin Gordon and he

793
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: is the bell cow with the Chargers, but his backup

794
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: is Austin Eckler, and I consider Austin Eckler something different.

795
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: You know, he's a great change of pace back. He

796
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: can he can do some things out of the backfield,

797
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: catch the ball out of the backfield. But I just

798
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: look at the running backs in this class and I

799
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: think you could make the argument. Correct me if I'm wrong,

800
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: But you could probably get a running back in the

801
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: third round this year that in any of the year

802
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: would be a late first early second rounder based on

803
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: the depth there. Yeah, running back, it's pretty remarkable. I

804
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,959
Speaker 1: mean because last year I thought running back with about

805
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: as strong as I've ever seen it, and I thought, Okay,

806
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: we're not going to see it class like this for

807
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: at least a decade. And here we are this year

808
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: and it's almost as good, it's not better, um, you know,

809
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: And so it really is a testament to the talent

810
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: that's available. Um. And frankly, the fact that we have

811
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: so many underclassmen who elected Nick themselves notable for the

812
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: draft a little bit early. Um. But you know, there's

813
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: only a couple of years ago when some were theorizing that,

814
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: you know, we had seen the last of running backs

815
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: going in the first round, and that's certainly not going

816
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,479
Speaker 1: to be the case this year. Right, Yes, he's heaving.

817
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: Show was about everybody else to running back position this year.

818
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't know that there is going to be a

819
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: second running back there's going to go in the first round,

820
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: in part because the depth is so good, why would

821
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: you pick the running back? Uh, you know, in the

822
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: top twenty other and say Kwon Barkley when you know

823
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: you can get a very similar athlete in the second

824
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: or third round, so you know whether it be a

825
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: player I mentioned Georgia before or a little bit disrespectfully

826
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: for the SEC champs and so I should tell them here.

827
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 1: You know, Nick Chubbs, So you show our book. Absolutely

828
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: Bell cow runners, in my opinion in the NFL level

829
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: just kind of depending on what you're looking for. And

830
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: that's just the start of it. I mean we're Shad

831
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: Penny from Sandy Knowel State, a lot of charges fans

832
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: rightly so should be fans a big game, and in

833
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: the Versatiller that he shows that only as a runner,

834
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: but as a return man as well. You know Jamon

835
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: Sanuels from Rooks Carolina State. I mean he was a player.

836
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: He played h back more than anything else with the

837
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: wolf back and then went to the Senior Bowl and

838
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: I thought that he was the best running back onto

839
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: the field. He's not going to run very well. He's

840
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: probably gonna run into four sixes and so he's going

841
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: to drop into you know, perhaps even Day day three

842
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: territory the fourth round or so. But I'll tell you this,

843
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: he's a really good football player who catches the ball

844
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: exceptionally well, and so he might be a guy to

845
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: kind of target on say Day three, is a change

846
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: the pace guy to what we already have. A Nobel

847
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: Gordon that could come in and be an im media

848
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 1: impact performer and a guy that whose statistics will wind

849
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: up in my opinions. Housing some of the running backs

850
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: who perhaps so in that late first round or second

851
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: round to this year's round. And bro, we didn't even

852
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: talk about guys like Kerrie on Johnson and both Scarborough

853
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: and Freeman from Oregon. Another kid that was really good

854
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: at at the Senior Bowl, Bellage from Arizona State. I

855
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: liked his game a lot as well. It's just I've

856
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: never seen Ronald Jones, another guy, a local guy from USC.

857
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 1: I've never seen the position this deep, and it seems

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Speaker 1: third fourth round. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean you mention a

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Speaker 1: lot of good football players. I mean I would kind

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Speaker 1: he might be the back and come agnna take somebody

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Speaker 1: in the late first round. He might be the one

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Speaker 1: just because of that straight line speed. I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: surprised off Ronald Jones must out of four to three

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Speaker 1: or so in the forty yard dash this year, and

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Speaker 1: Kes steal some of the spotlight from Sa Kwon Barclay

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Speaker 1: and the rest of this we're hand back class. I

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Speaker 1: think for my money, if you're looking for just straight speed,

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Speaker 1: straight big play at melody, you know Ronald Jones and

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Speaker 1: mean to me looks like a second coming of the

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Speaker 1: Jamal Charles or Chris Johnson, um you know who. You know,

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Speaker 1: their careers speak for themselves, uh in the NFL. And

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Speaker 1: then you have these bigger backs. You mentioned a Bo Scarborough,

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Speaker 1: I mean a Royce Freeman, um, Calen Barage, I mean

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Speaker 1: all of them. And we're we're talking about six foot

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Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty pound kind of guys that can

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Speaker 1: be that sledgehammer. And you know, I referenced the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl before and we all sallow like Garrett bluntin um,

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Speaker 1: you know, not only last year for the Eagles, but

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Speaker 1: the year before that for the Patriots. And so if

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Speaker 1: you have any back like that that can be that

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Speaker 1: enforced down that you know as the game wears on,

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Speaker 1: then that'll obviously can play a critical role for your

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Speaker 1: team as well, So you know, just a spectacular running

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Speaker 1: back has kind of a batting Robin Pickture of Flint

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Speaker 1: were kind of a thing. Who whatever you need that's

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Speaker 1: running back class hawker, Rob, We'll get you out of

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Speaker 1: here on this. Who's one or two prospects not many

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Speaker 1: people are talking about now that we're all going to

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Speaker 1: be talking about at the end of the combine. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know that the first two guys that jump out

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Speaker 1: of me are the two linebackers. Now they're starting to

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Speaker 1: get plenty of attention now. But both these states Layton

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Speaker 1: vander Esch and in Virginia Texts Tremaine Edmonds are both

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Speaker 1: to stantastic athletes, and they're not going to be the

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Speaker 1: StAst tostad because they're linebackers. But both these players wind

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Speaker 1: up running as fast as I expect in the high

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Speaker 1: four or fives to low four six is a two

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Speaker 1: hundred and forty pounds, and they both have vertical jumps

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Speaker 1: in the thirty seven an inch or higher range and

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Speaker 1: show the agility during the shittle drills that they show

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Speaker 1: on the field, then I think if they're going to

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Speaker 1: be considered among the best pound for pound athletes, in

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Speaker 1: the issue's draft. But you know, again, how would be

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Speaker 1: remissed if I didn't mention some of the guys I

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Speaker 1: expected to the most far great forty yards where all

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Speaker 1: Jones has a chance, as well as Dante Jackson from LSU.

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Speaker 1: There's top k He's going to run in the four

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Speaker 1: twos and maybe even put John Ross's record, you know,

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Speaker 1: in in his rear view mirrors, so that certainly speaks

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Speaker 1: to it. And then if you're gonna talk about the

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Speaker 1: big guys, I think that you have to mention Washingtons

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Speaker 1: Vida Vya and he's gonna come in about three hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty five pounds, and every report I have is

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Speaker 1: suggest that he's going to run under five flat and

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Speaker 1: put up forty plus repetitions of during twenty five pounds

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Speaker 1: in the bench press. I've been comparing him Helodi Nada

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Speaker 1: for a long time, and there's a lot of those

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Speaker 1: out there, and you start using the Dante Dontarry Poe reference,

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Speaker 1: He's gonna put up those kind of numbers. Just as

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Speaker 1: good as Terry Poe was throughout his career. He was

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Speaker 1: not the dominator a stamp discount basis at Memphis that

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Speaker 1: Bida was for Washington tact to us on any one

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Speaker 1: to the Morris Trophy Award. So those are a group

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Speaker 1: of four or five athletes right there who I think

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Speaker 1: are going to be a tip of everybody's tongue at

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Speaker 1: the end of the STI combine. He's Rob Ranging of

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft scout dot Com. Rob, awesome stuff. I look

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Speaker 1: forward to seeing an indian I appreciate you spending some

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Speaker 1: time with us today. You'll charge this weekly. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having you, and that's gonna do it by thanks to

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Speaker 1: Rob and Steve, and thanks you guys for listening. Be

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