1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Fellow conspiracy realist. Thanks for tuning in. You can perhaps 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: hear a bit of a laugh, a bit of levity 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: in your faithful correspond its voice here, because back at 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, we finally asked ourselves, why is Florida Man 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: such a thing? You remember this because it was a 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: huge It's still a huge deal in the US. 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, why is this the best subreddit that has ever 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: been created? 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: It was? 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 2: Honestly back then. It was before I had, you know, 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 2: an addiction to an Instagram feed that I love, by 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: the way, still, but you know that every once in 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: a while has some Florida Man in it. There was 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 2: Florida Man on the news constantly. 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're not talking Jeb Bush. We're talking about 16 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: the headlines that do continue today, where it would seem 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: like every every third or fourth day there was a 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: headline that had a new crazy report about Florida Man. 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: It was just Florida Man blank blank blankety blanks. Florida 20 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: Man proclaims himself the second cousin of Jesus Christ while 21 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: abducting alligator from a taco bell. You know what I mean. 22 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: I would pay money to see that documentary. 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: I would give you ten minutes to see how you 24 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: see if it bangs at the top. But out of 25 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: all the states of the Union, we're asking ourselves, why 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: does it seem like one of them Florida is home 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: to so many crazy shenanigans. Can we explain how that 28 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: came about? Is there indeed a conspiracy afoot? And we 29 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: don't get to say this every time, but I'm confident 30 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: we found a pretty good answer. 31 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: Yeah we did. Let's remember together. 32 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 4: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies, history is 33 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 4: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 4: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. 35 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, 36 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: my name is Noah. 37 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: They call me Ben. We are joined by us always 38 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: with our super producer Paul Mission control Decat most importantly, 39 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: you are here that makes this stuff they don't want 40 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: you to know. And luckily for us, this is a 41 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: little bit of a more and we say lighthearted episode 42 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: because after we recorded some fairly dark stuff recently some 43 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: murder investigations call Texpose's, we decided that we would take 44 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: a break. But answer is still a real question, what 45 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: the f is up with Florida? 46 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: There you go. That's the question. Why does it seem 47 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: like all, at least most of the strangest thing in 48 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: the United States occur in Florida. 49 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: It's strange. And this is not in any way a 50 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: hit piece on Florida, on America's most famous peninsula and panhandle. 51 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: But it's true that here in the US, some parts 52 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: of this country are more famous or infamous than others. 53 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: And we had originally what the fuck is up with 54 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: Florida as just a working title and in joke with us, 55 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: But I think now we could just make it official, right, Yeah. 56 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 3: But poor Paul's got to bleep it every time we 57 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: say this is a family show. 58 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: Well, we're only too deep so far, so hopefully it'll 59 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: be all right. But you know, for another example, New 60 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: York and California are probably the best known states on 61 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: the international sphere, even if people only know them for 62 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: a particular city like Los Angeles or New York City, 63 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: or an industry like Hollywood or the Mob and Florida, 64 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: located in the far southeast of the US, occupies this 65 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: very unique space in our zeitgeist. It's an international destination, 66 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: home to Disney World, wealth of other amusement parks. I 67 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 1: can say some of the best times of my life 68 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: have actually been in Florida. Really do tell nah. 69 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: Okay, my grandparents lived in Clearwater, and I used to 70 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: have just a heck of a time hanging out in 71 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: their retirement community down there because they had a pool. 72 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: It was wonderful. It was just grand times until I realized. 73 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 3: Isn't there a Scientology center there? 74 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: Until I realized that Clearwater was under a salt by Scientology, 75 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: they were literally buying up land, I think a quarter 76 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: of a quarter of a billion dollars worth of land 77 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: that they owned. 78 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 3: How did you experience this as a youth? 79 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: Well, all I remember is that there was always construction 80 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 2: on all of the highways every time I went down there, 81 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: from a little little boy up until I was in 82 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: my mid twenties. 83 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: And you couldn't get into the pool until you did 84 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: the e meter thing. 85 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was it. 86 00:04:58,680 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: You're carrying around too many things? 87 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, Your thetans were wild, man. It's It's true. There's 88 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: a lot. That's a good segue too. There's a lot 89 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: of strange stuff that happens in Florida. It truly is 90 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: an international destination. Millions of tourists flocked to Florida each 91 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: year to maybe visit family, to see the attractions and 92 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: the beaches. In twenty seventeen, the most recent estimate available, 93 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: we found an estimated one hundred and sixteen point five 94 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: million people traveled just to Florida to hang out and 95 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: last year. And that sounds like just an abstract large number, 96 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: but for comparison, we've got what over three hundred million 97 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: people living in the US now, So that's more than 98 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: a third of the US population. And just in terms 99 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: of raw. 100 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 2: Numbers, if yeah, if they're all from the United States, 101 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 2: they're not. Yeah, but you know, there's still a huge 102 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: chunk of people living up in Florida. 103 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, but these is popping in for a Disney Vak 104 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 3: or a little universal studio situation and staying at the 105 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 3: many palatial resorts and hotels that there are there. But 106 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: what of the people that just are there all the time? 107 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: Ah, Yes, you're talking about the residents and the many 108 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: of whom have retired to Florida from some other another state, 109 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: New Jersey being the popular stereotype, like Mattie's father in law. 110 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and yes, kind of Jersey and Jersey and he's 111 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 2: he was from New Jersey. 112 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: He's from elsewhere than Florida, though, yeah. 113 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: Jersey, so here in the US. Residents of other states 114 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: have some, let's just call them what they are, stereotypes 115 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: about Florida, and it's not completely unfounded or unreasonable for 116 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: people to have these stereotypes. Even those stereotypes are usually 117 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: pretty destructive things. Often when you hear about Florida in 118 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,239 Speaker 1: the national news, it's associated with a tense political struggle, 119 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: a natural disaster, or, oddly enough, a strange story about 120 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: an individual in Florida committing some sort of ridiculous crime. 121 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: Here's our first list of examples. 122 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: Florida man attacks atm with hatchet after it refuses to 123 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: take his check. 124 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: Or Florida man denies drinking and driving and says he 125 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: only swigged bourbon at stop signs. 126 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: Or Florida man claims wife was kidnapped by holograms. 127 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: Or Florida man steps tourists despite having no arms. 128 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: Or drunk Florida man. That's a nice modifier because it's 129 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: usually just implied. Drunk Florida man attempts to ride bike 130 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 3: through Taco Bell drive through Comma, fights with police and 131 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: his mugshot. He's just making a big old frownie face 132 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 3: and has like a bruise in the middle of his 133 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: forehead and kind of like joker asque green hair. He's 134 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 3: wearing the orange jumpsuit. And just to reiterate, no Florida 135 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: bashing here, this is a trope that is worth exploring, 136 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 3: and we have to give these examples too. 137 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Florida man launches chair at mailman because he had 138 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: no mail for him. 139 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a tense day. And you can read 140 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: more and more of these examples. Spoiler alert will probably 141 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: have some more that pop up. But this is the 142 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: kind of news that people in other states see when 143 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: they hear a story of the media about Florida. And 144 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: since so many people living in other states hear about 145 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: these stories on a semi frequent basis, it's understandable and 146 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: completely not commendable that many people would form this prejudiced 147 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: opinion of the Sunshine State. And that brings us to 148 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: today's question, is there really more strange crime in Florida? 149 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: How does it stack up to other states? What exactly 150 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: gave this state such a weird reputation? 151 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: Is there something going on in Florida that they don't 152 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: want us to know? 153 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: Yet oddly enough, it's complicated. We get to a question 154 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: at the end there, but I guess we should start 155 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: with the facts. Where did Florida come from? 156 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: So Homo sapiens have been occupying the land mass what 157 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: is Florida for at least twelve thousand years, and written 158 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 3: records of this area started as far back as fifteen thirteen, 159 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 3: when the Spanish explorer Juan Ponce de lay on a 160 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 3: namesakea we know very well here in Atlanta. It's actually 161 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: the street they were on, arrived and. 162 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: When he arrived there were no other humans living there. 163 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: That's not true, that's just when the like we said, 164 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 2: that's when records begin. 165 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: Well, did Ponce de Leon consider the inhabitants of Florida 166 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: to be human? I mean he is a Spanish explorer 167 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: at that time, he was a conquistador, right, it's correct. 168 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: Fast forward to eighteen forty five, nice day, March third, 169 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: Florida becomes the twenty seventh US state, and during the 170 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: Civil War, unlike a lot of states in the South, 171 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: it didn't suffer this massive amount of catastrophic destruction. You know, 172 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: it didn't burn the way Atlanta burned. A lot of 173 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: huge pivotal battles. Although there are some. Of course they're 174 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: historically significant, it's not they didn't have a Gettysburg moment. 175 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: You know, the Union controlled coastal towns and forts. The 176 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: interior was controlled by Confederates. Somehow they all, you know, 177 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: managed to avoid the complete devastation that happened in other states. 178 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: So let's get into the geography of good old Florida. 179 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: It's mostly known for it's peninsula of a thing that 180 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: juts out down there heading towards the Caribbean, but the 181 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 2: state actually contains several different distinct ecosystems and also cultures. 182 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: There was a there was a whole article that was 183 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 2: put out about the different the five what is it, 184 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: five to ten states that exist within Florida, which is 185 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: not real, but it's kind of just groupings of people 186 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: who've moved to the state. But the land is divided 187 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: into four main regions. You've got the Gulf Coast that's 188 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: where the Atlantic Ocean kind of goes up in there, 189 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: into the into the peninsula. You've got the coastal plain 190 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 2: means the upland that's the hilly area towards the north 191 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: and northwest, getting up towards our own Georgia. And then 192 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: you've got the swampy Everglades that's in the far south 193 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: and in the Florida Keys. That's where it's very difficult 194 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: to get buildings to stay in too workright and not. 195 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 3: Flood, and it's a popular destination for hiding bodies. 196 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: And gators love it. In terms of human population density, 197 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: at least, Florida has a surface area of about one 198 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy thousand over square kilometers almost sixty six 199 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: thousand square miles. Based on the estimates, that works out 200 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: to about three hundred and fifty three point four people 201 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: per square mile or one hundred and thirty six point 202 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: four per square kilometer, and this makes Florida the eighth 203 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: most densely populated state in the Union. It's also surprisingly 204 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: this surprised me. It's also the third most populous state. 205 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: The only bigger ones are California and Texas. 206 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: That is very surprising in my opinion, especially because of 207 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 2: all of that land that's out there, especially in the 208 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: Everglades and some of those areas where you just look 209 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: out if you're driving on ninety five, I think it 210 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: is you just see nothing for miles and miles and miles, and. 211 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: It guess to be fair, we'd have to point out 212 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: that that average could be misleading because a ton of 213 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: people will live in the urban areas in the Miami 214 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: Dade metropolis or in Orlando, you know. So our current 215 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: estimate for the population in twenty eighteen is twenty one 216 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: point three one million people, and that is based off 217 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: an estimate carried out in twenty fifteen by the Census Bureau, 218 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: and the growth rate was one of the fastest in 219 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: the country. It was number four out of all the 220 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: other states. So if we think about this, that means 221 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: most people outside of the American South picture Florida to 222 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: be way less crowded than it is, and the opposite 223 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: is the case. It is incredibly crowded, incredibly dense, and 224 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: most importantly, incredibly diverse. 225 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 3: That's right. Florida is a is a pretty unusual mix 226 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 3: of cultures of transplants, like we're talking about the top 227 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 3: of the show from other states and other countries. So 228 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 3: it's pretty hard to find a central defining characteristic of 229 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 3: the state's culture like as a whole. But that's kind 230 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 3: of what makes it interesting too. I mean, there's a 231 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 3: like you know, there's an incredible art scene, like in Miami, 232 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 3: for example, with like I think it's called art basil 233 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: is that how he pronounced it or basal that? So 234 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 3: what's going on right now? It's a big art conference 235 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 3: where artists from all over the world convene in Miami. 236 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 3: And there's that aspect of it. There's an incredible you know, 237 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 3: Latin American population in Cuban population, and different kinds of 238 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 3: food and music and just about you know, anything you 239 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 3: can imagine. It's very, very, very diverse. 240 00:13:53,640 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 2: Oh, Miami, an entire metropolis built on cocaine. 241 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: I read I read some really strange thing about Miami. 242 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: When researching this, someone said this neatest thing about Miami 243 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: was how close it is to America. It took me 244 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: a second. I couldn't figure out where they were going 245 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: because I'm not myself too familiar with Miami. I haven't 246 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: been there since I was a child. I would imagine 247 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: you guys are more familiar with it. 248 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been there numerous times with my in laws. 249 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: They love it. I love it. I love hanging out 250 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: there with them. And again, the food and the culture 251 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: are definitely one of the biggest drawing points I think 252 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: to that city for some reason. 253 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: When I was a child a long long time ago, 254 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: I thought everybody in Miami was tall. And I think 255 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: it's just because when I went there, I was, you know, 256 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: maybe two and a half to three feet high, so 257 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: I just thought it was a land of giants. I 258 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: have no idea is that true. Are people taller in Miami? 259 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: They are? Yeah, it's rough. It's anywhere between three to 260 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: seven inches you're gonna get as soon as you arrived 261 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: to Miami, and that increases over time, like whether or 262 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: not you actually are living in like certain counties within 263 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: the city. 264 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: That makes sense. It's like I thought I was thought 265 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: when people say they're big in Japan. I thought it 266 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: was some sort of like metaphor comparison. But you know, 267 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: I from what I hear, when you go, you do 268 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: turn into a giant. 269 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: It does. Okay, that's obviously completely false the thing we're 270 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: joking about. But I do wonder if there's something to 271 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: driving through that flat land that is Florida for so 272 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: long then you finally arrive at this huge city that 273 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 2: has giant, towering buildings. I wonder if there's some kind 274 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: of perception thing that can occur there where things feel bigger. 275 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 3: The Florida effect. Yeah, oh oh yeah, yeah, that's a 276 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: thing I just made up. 277 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: I think the Florida effect is an excellent name. What 278 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: do you think it describes? 279 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: Nola? 280 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: Is it what Matt articulated? 281 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 3: It could be part of it. It could be this 282 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: whole ball of Florida wax that we're talking about today. 283 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: And included in that ball of Florida wax is the 284 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: kind of the elephant in the room or the mouse 285 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: in the tower. Right, How does Florida stack up when 286 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: it comes to crime, especially since we read so much 287 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: about crime and these news stories they constantly come out. 288 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: We'll tell you after a word from our sponsor. 289 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: Well, no matter what you've heard, this is important. Despite 290 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: all those crazy news stories you heard, and even the 291 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: one that you didn't hear me say about the guy 292 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: who buried a dude in concrete to steal his magic 293 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: the gathering collection, which was valued ad over one hundred 294 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. By the way, Florida is by no means 295 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: the most violent state within our great Union. 296 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 3: Well the beauty too of these stories, they're not all violent, 297 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 3: They're all just kind of crazy. 298 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, the Karthi, for instance, who stole a vehicle, 299 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: saw there was a baby in it and then turned 300 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: around to safely drop the baby off with someone, and 301 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: then stole the car. I feel like that's oddly and Dearie. 302 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed. Or even the guy who was at McDonald's 303 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: who was masturbating in the parking lot and he claimed 304 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 2: that his privacy, his privacy was being invaded. 305 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, he also said he lived in his car. I 306 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: believe despite all these stories here, Florida is, as you said, Matt, 307 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: not the most violent state. Depending on the study you read, 308 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: the most violent state will often be cited as Louisiana, 309 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: with Vermont being cited as one of the safest. But 310 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: there's still crime in Florida. Florida is usually depending on 311 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: how it's measured, it usually ranks fifth in terms of 312 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: crime five hundred and forty one violent crimes reported per 313 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand people. That's a lot, right, Yeah. And 314 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: also it ranks number five in terms of robbery, aggravated assault, 315 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: and property crime. But while it may not have the 316 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: most crime out of any state, it genuinely does seem 317 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: to have some of the weirdest crime. You know, what 318 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: can we just stop and do some more examples? Yes, 319 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: all right, what do we got? 320 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 3: I have a good one. Let's see. Florida man caught 321 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 3: with stolen power poles strapped suv in wake of Hurricane Irma. 322 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: That's weird. 323 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 3: I don't understand. 324 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: So. Florida man disguises himself in bull costume as he 325 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: tries to burn down former lover's house with pasta sauce. 326 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 2: Florida man attempts to smoke crack in an ICU, almost 327 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: burns down hospital. 328 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 3: Florida man high on meth climbs onto stranger's roof to howl. 329 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: Florida man arrested in local park for practicing karate on swans. 330 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: Florida man sets apartment complex on fire after manager told 331 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: him to stop masturbating in front of windows. 332 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 3: Are yours are very masturb I feel like you found 333 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 3: a Florida man Rex liquor shop blames caterpillar from Alice 334 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 3: in Wonderland. He said that a hookah smoking caterpillar told 335 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 3: him to do it, so it is really more references 336 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 3: the song White Rabbit by Yeah Jefferson Airplane. 337 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: There, that's a good point. He needed to work on it. 338 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 3: He was probably on acid. 339 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 2: He might have been. 340 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: There's one. There's one I found that I can't remember 341 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: the circumstances behind, but we can just describe it in 342 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: the headline. There was a guy who was found on 343 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: the roof of some store and he was covered with tar, 344 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: and people asked him what he was doing up there, 345 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: and originally he said that he was lost and from 346 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 1: out of town, and then he said he was an 347 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: AC technician, and he noticed the AC was malfunctioning, so 348 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: he decided to do the neighborly thing and fix it. 349 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: I think he just did drugs and ended up on 350 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: the roof of a building. 351 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: He had got covered in tar somehow, And I hope 352 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: he's okay. 353 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: So these headlines are like solid gold. If you have 354 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: a slow news day, right, these will get your clicks, 355 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: oh for sure. So what gives you know? Is this 356 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: unfair stereotype? Is there something in the water? Why do 357 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: people seem to participate in so many any crazy shenanigans 358 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: in America's most infamous peninsula. It turns out we have 359 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: an answer. Here's where it gets crazy. 360 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it turns out that this law really is 361 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 3: somewhat to blame for this phenomenon. Every American state has 362 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 3: some kind of sunshine law, and that's a term for 363 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 3: legislation regulations or constitutional amendments that guarantee public access to 364 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 3: government affairs, like sort of an open book policy. 365 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 2: Right, or how open is your book? 366 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 3: Exactly? How open is your book? Is it a reading 367 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 3: rainbow or is it more of a. 368 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 2: I don't know, Ben, You're better at this than me, malefice, 369 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: malific caro. 370 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 3: There you go, nice, very very well done, Matt. 371 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 2: Yeah. 372 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 3: So, but while these laws require most government meetings to 373 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 3: be open door and most documents to be open book, 374 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 3: allowing public scrutiny, many of them are a little bit limited, right. 375 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: Or redactive, or I have some kind of conditions on 376 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 2: them to where not every single one is going to 377 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 2: be fully available in all of its form. 378 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, theoretically, in a given state you might have 379 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: something similar to this Transparency Act or Freedom of Information 380 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: Act kind of thing, So you can technically get access 381 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: to police records, but actually getting them in practice can 382 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: take a long time, or you can get shut down 383 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: by red tape. But in Florida, on the other hand, 384 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: there is a deep, deep, deep, centuries long dedication to 385 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: hardcore transparency norms. It starts way back in nineteen oh nine, 386 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: Chapter one hundred and nineteen of the Florida Statutes, the 387 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: Public Records Law, and it kept being strengthened in following years. 388 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty seven they passed the government in the 389 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: Sunshine Law popularly known as the Sunshine Law now, and 390 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: then they continue to strengthen it after that. So this 391 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: law has been kind of untouchable regardless of who is 392 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: in office. And it's pretty extreme. If you are a 393 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: public official, every meeting, aside from a few exemptions, has 394 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: to be an open meeting, which is why, like politicians 395 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: will get married and they'll have to have a journalist 396 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: at their wedding. That happened at least once and today. 397 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: The Sunshine Law regarding open government can be found in 398 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: Chapter two eighty six of the Florida Statutes if you're 399 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: looking for some really juicy reading. They establish this basic 400 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: right of access to most meetings of boards, commissions, other 401 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: governing bodies of state and local government agencies or authorities. 402 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: And this means that it is incredibly easy to learn 403 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: about the inner workings of this state's government, especially arrest records. 404 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a big deal because if you're a 405 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: journalist and you're looking for a story just to include 406 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 2: or to have as a part of your paper or 407 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: your podcast or whatever, having access or at least easier 408 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: access to some of these arrest records and stories going 409 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 2: through the courts or whoever is being charged with what 410 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: right now actively that gives you this huge wealth of 411 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: just stuff to write about. I mean, that's a big 412 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: that's a big deal to me at least, it's like 413 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 2: the blodder stories, you know. 414 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's true. And at the same time, like 415 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 3: I've been to Florida. I've hung out in Florida, and 416 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 3: Florida has a really interesting dichotomy where like we were 417 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 3: talking about that diversity that it has that extends to 418 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 3: like you know how there's certain parts of Georgia that 419 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 3: kind of have reputation for like a certain type of 420 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: individual that might be a little more prone to drunken 421 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: behavior or unhinged things, you know, or myth or myth 422 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: there you go, or you know, just too much drinking too. 423 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 3: You know that Florida has that too, and it also 424 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 3: has the big cities it has. It's very diverse in 425 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 3: that way, and I think that and the fact that 426 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 3: you've got these open book policies where they have better 427 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 3: access to it. It doesn't necessarily mean they're more crimes 428 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 3: that are nuts, but it certainly has no shortage of 429 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 3: Bonker's crimes. But you know what, neither does Georgia. We 430 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 3: don't get access to the information as readily as they 431 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 3: do in Florida, apparently, right. 432 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's one of the dead giveaways you'll notice. 433 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: So the same well intentioned laws that passed are the 434 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: same reason that a Florida residence mugshot might appear online 435 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: merely days after those arrests. Make it incredibly easy to 436 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: write about these stories. And here's the red flag you'll see. 437 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: If you're reading a weird Florida or a Florida man's story, 438 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: it will almost always include the phrase according to the 439 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: arrest report or something like that. And there's a journalist 440 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: named Kyle Munzen Reader who wrote wrote a great look 441 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: at this for the Miami Herald. He put it this way. 442 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 1: As journalists, he said, all we have to do in 443 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: most cases is call the police department and ask for 444 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: an arrest report, and the cops are required to give 445 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: it to us. Nowadays, a lot of cops just email 446 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: the reports, and some of them will post arrest records 447 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: online of their own volition. Some of the more dedicated 448 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: Florida news reporters go through batches and batches of these 449 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: reports at a time. And he said, you know, you, 450 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: once you have the report, you pretty much have everything 451 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: you need to write a story. You just have to 452 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: be mindful that it's the police officer's version of events. 453 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: And Kyle had a good example about this, which I 454 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: thought was hilarious. 455 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: He says, say a journalist somewhere gets a tip that 456 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: a man in a dog costume was caught making love 457 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: to a Hello Kitty doll in a mall bathroom here 458 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: in Florida, we would just call the police and say 459 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 2: something like heard there was an arrest at the mall yesterday, 460 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: Can we get the report? And I would add a 461 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: little wink wink in there. 462 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 3: Right. 463 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: For journalists in a lot of other states, again, it's 464 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: not that easy. They might not be able to get 465 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: the report at all, or they might have to wait 466 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: for a certain amount of time before police release it. 467 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 3: Well, Georgia does have a thing called the jail report 468 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 3: that you can get like a gas station and they're very, 469 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 3: very picky. You're not allowed to pick them up or 470 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 3: read them unless you buy them, because otherwise, you know, 471 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 3: what's the point. So yeah, they typically only they'll have 472 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 3: mugshots and the actual thing the person was arrested for, 473 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 3: but not usually the juicy details like what would be 474 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 3: in the arrest report. So that must be directly because 475 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 3: of the differences in the sunshine laws. 476 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: I think that's a good point. And there's something else 477 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: here about the sunshine law that's pretty interesting. Florida, like 478 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: some other unnamed US states, is home to a lot 479 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: of corruption. You just have to look back at our 480 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: earlier episode on the founding of Disney World to see 481 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: the way that Disney essentially became its own local government. 482 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 2: Right. 483 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: Scientology famous for having its fingers in a lot of 484 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: political pies. So maybe this open governance law is so 485 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,959 Speaker 1: extreme because they want to have some sort of oversight 486 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: on those strange, murky connections between so called private entities 487 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: and then governments that have been infiltrated or compromised, which 488 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: I know sounds so very cold war, but again, just 489 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: listen to the Disney episode, because that's what happened. 490 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I have to say it was weird going 491 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 2: to Disney after doing that episode. Oh yeah, all I 492 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: was thinking about was how this land was acquired, what 493 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 2: the town was actually like, where I truly was rather 494 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 2: than just being near Kissing Me or something. 495 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: The Reedy Creek Improvement District. Yeah, but still Disney World's 496 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: great man. I have fond memories of it, the whole thing. So, 497 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: as you said earlier, in no, A lot of states 498 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: have something like this law, but most are nowhere near 499 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: on the level of Florida's. So be very careful. Now 500 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: that we've walked through that, we can address this question. 501 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: Is Florida any worse than other states? Or is it 502 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: just easier for the public to know about crimes and 503 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: bizarre events? Will answer that after a word from ours sponsor. 504 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: We're back. Well, I think we're gonna have to give 505 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: this one the old patented partially true? 506 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: Can we get a sound effect of that? 507 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 3: Who patented that? It's somewhat yes, Snopes? 508 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: I think it was probably Snops. 509 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, they can't own the phrase partially true? 510 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 3: Who knows partially own it? Brahamps? 511 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: What we have to go with something way less, way 512 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: less sexy, like somewhat accurate? 513 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: There you go, that's a glass half full situation. 514 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's true. 515 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 2: Looks like we're gonna go with our patented somewhat accurate. 516 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: And one gun shot. 517 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, but like a like a like a racing start pistol. 518 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. 519 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 3: That's not scary gunshot. 520 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: That's a compromise. Yeah. Florida's open gun governance laws do 521 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: make it very very easy to report the weirdest arrest 522 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: on record, and the fact remains that there is a 523 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: higher than average crime rate in Florida. It's a combination 524 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: of wildly different cultures, so stranger things are bound to occur, 525 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: things that might not occur in a place that is 526 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: less crowded or has different reporting rules. 527 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 3: It feels like there is a little bit more of 528 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 3: possibly a free spirit and like kind of a stick 529 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 3: it to the man kind of attitude, possibly when people 530 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 3: live by the water and they're not absurdly bougie rich people. 531 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. Yeah, more self reliance. 532 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 3: Or self reliant, the kind of beach bum LIFs for 533 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: me kind of attitude, you know. 534 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: And then maybe that applies Inland with sort of a 535 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: country boy can survive vibe. 536 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 3: Also true. Again, I think It all goes back to 537 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 3: the diversity we're talking about, and that is a diversity 538 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 3: of culture and of socioeconomic stratum. 539 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 540 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of inequality in this stage as well. 541 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: And this situation, all these factors combined to create a 542 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: feedback loop because once journalists from around the country learned 543 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: how easy it was to fill a void in the 544 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: news cycle with a charming, hilarious, often a schadenfreud rife 545 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: anecdote about Florida, it became an easy go to move. 546 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that insane things don't happen in Idaho. 547 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that parts of Atlanta are entirely bonkers, 548 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: and you know, we weekly escapades of pandemonium don't occur. 549 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: It just means that it's way easier to tell the 550 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: Florida versions of those stories. 551 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 3: What do you call that, like an echo chamber situation? Right? 552 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, here's a question, then, Ben, what does 553 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 3: it take in a state with tighter sunshine laws to 554 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 3: generate a headline like that, Like it has to be 555 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 3: just like out in the public eye where it's witnessed 556 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 3: by a lot of people, and then you know, it's 557 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 3: not exclusively reported on based on arrest reports. It was 558 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: such a giant debacle that people saw and journalists actually 559 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 3: have to interview people at the scene. 560 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah. I was gonna say, as you, as 561 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: you find more details with any of these that we 562 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: late that we ran off earlier, there's probably even more 563 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 2: context to a lot of this, and it might even 564 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 2: make a little more sense than it seems just with 565 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: the headline and with the basic description. After more, you know, 566 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: a better picture of it emerges. 567 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and these people haven't had their day in court 568 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: yet either. When a lot of the stuff is reported, 569 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: it's just the arrest. Like as reported by a local 570 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: news station, a Florida man was rescued from a vending machine. 571 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: Authorities would not comment on the circumstances of how the 572 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: man became stuck in the vending machine or how they 573 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: rescued him. There was no word on the extent of 574 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: his injuries. Action News called the business where the incident happened. 575 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: A person Alpha Packaging, picked up the phone and hung 576 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: up without providing additional information. So there's a lot of 577 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: context missing in that one, you know. And that's that's 578 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,479 Speaker 1: a really good point you make, Matt. There's a wealth 579 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: of very important contexts. It's usually cut out because we 580 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: just want to read these I'll say, amazing headlines. 581 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 3: Well, I was about to say before you accuse us 582 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 3: of only doing this episode because we wanted to rattle 583 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 3: off some of these headlines, I'm here to tell you 584 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 3: that's probably exactly why we did it. 585 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, I went in this hoping for headlines, 586 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: and we want to hear some of your favorite Florida headlines. Also, 587 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: if you are from Florida, we want to hear your 588 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: opinion on the sunshine law? Is it overall a good thing? 589 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: With this one unintended consequence? You know, we have solved 590 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: the mystery. Florida does get an unfair rap, and it 591 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: gets it largely due to this legislation. What about people 592 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: who don't live in Florida? Do you want your state, 593 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: local community, or your country to enact a similar law? 594 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: Why or why not? I mean a lot of countries 595 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: have the draconian opposite of this, like in Belarus and 596 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 1: a lot of Eurasian countries. You are not really allowed 597 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: to even talk about the government. 598 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 2: Hmmm, I don't want that. 599 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: So is there a goldilock zone? Is this too far? 600 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 3: There must be there must be. 601 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. I kind of like this full transparency thing. 602 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: I mean, how honestly, if we didn't have it, how 603 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 2: would I ever learned about the Florida man that stole 604 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 2: thirty six thousand pounds of Crisco? And what's he gonna 605 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 2: do with all that Crisco? 606 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,479 Speaker 3: You might ask? I think I know that sex stuff. 607 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: Oh, you're not connected to the Crisco underground anymore. 608 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: I thought it was a food product, like, uh, you 609 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: cook with it? 610 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but I mean it's also you know, pure grease. Mmmm, 611 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 3: maybe I know. No, no alligator wrestling done. 612 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: Ah, Yeah, I don't know. I love those sorts of 613 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: heist because remember that story in Canada about the huge 614 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,719 Speaker 1: maple syrup heist that happened a while back. Yeah, I 615 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: still wonder. How do you fence that who has a 616 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: Crisco guy who only moves weight, who has a maple 617 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: syrup connection, who doesn't mess with anything under one hundred 618 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: gallons of syrup? 619 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying. You fence it directly to the 620 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 3: underground alligator wrestling community, and they then need no one 621 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 3: else ever sees it doesn't have to enter into circulation. 622 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 3: They just keep it and they use it until they 623 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 3: run out. 624 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,280 Speaker 1: So this guy is like the Kaiser So of Crisco. 625 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: I am officially I am officially banning myself from comparing 626 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: people to Kaiser. So I've been doing it for the 627 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: past several episodes because like that, they're gone, yes, yeah, exactly, 628 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: it's a great comparison to anyone. 629 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 2: Uh well, I figured it out. Guys. He was taking 630 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 2: the Crisco. He was going to go fence it at 631 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 2: his buddy. He was his buddy. Unfortunately, though, was caught 632 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 2: with a meth an active meth lab in his pants. 633 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: Oh the one. They called it a one pot meth lab, right, 634 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 1: that's true. 635 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 3: That's true. Yes, like you can cook yourself one rock 636 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 3: of meth. His meth coming rocks. 637 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: I don't know the I don't know the outputs killed exactly, 638 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: but they have. 639 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 640 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: This guy had apparently some baggy pants and a Mcguyverli 641 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: like traveling meth lab. 642 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 2: A guy from the Fooniac Springs. 643 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: And this, I mean, we can laugh at this. We're 644 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: not making fun of these people's lives. We are trying 645 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: to point out the important and little known mechanism that's 646 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: responsible for this. Frankly, unfair stereotype. We also, you know, 647 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 1: as we said at the top, after our last few episodes, 648 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: we wanted to do something a little more lighthearted. But 649 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:38,439 Speaker 1: there is one last crucial note we have to make 650 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: here as we record this. Some parts of Florida are 651 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: still devastated by Hurricane Michael. And you might not hear 652 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: about this stuff in between all this the funny stories 653 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: of someone you know dressing up in a weird costume 654 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 1: or someone getting stuck in a vending machine. But there 655 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: are still tense cities in areas of Florida where hundreds 656 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: of people are currently living, and they are many of 657 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: them are due to be disbanded, leaving the hurricane survivors 658 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: with nowhere to go. 659 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 3: So if you would like to donate to help Florida rebuild, 660 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 3: or for that matter, help any number of communities that 661 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,720 Speaker 3: have been suffering from the short and long term effects 662 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 3: of these kinds of national disasters, such as California with 663 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 3: the fires Puerto Rico, you can visit charity navigator dot 664 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 3: org and search for your cause of choice. 665 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty neat. 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