1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Luddington and iHeartRadio Podcast. 3 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to our brand new podcast, Call It 4 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camilla. 5 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: Luddington, Episode one. Baby, This is exciting. This is where 6 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: it all starts. It's where the rubber hits the road. 7 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: Let's go, you guys. We are so incredibly excited to 8 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 1: actually be like sitting here. We've been talking about this 9 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: for months and months and months, but to be sat 10 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: here with the mics, talking to each other and like 11 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: getting into it finally, like it's like Christmas morning for me. 12 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: It is. 13 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: It is, and truly the goal in all of this 14 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: wild madness and love festing is to get to know you. 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: We can't wait to get to know you. But obviously 16 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: before we get to know you, before you trust us, 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: you might want to know a little bit more about us. Yes, 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: so here's the thing. You may know us from Grey's Anatomy, 19 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: where we played doctor Arizona Robbins and doctor Josephine Wilson, 20 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: and we we are not those people in real life. 21 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: We are, Jessica, we know we're not. We're not more similarities, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 22 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: definitely not. And even though if you were to run 23 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: into us on the street or in the mall or 24 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,279 Speaker 2: anywhere else, we might look a lot like those people, 25 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: we in fact were not. And so there might be 26 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: some things that you'd like to get to know about 27 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: us before you know, you trust us and come into 28 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: the world and the friendship circle and and give us, 29 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: give us your goods. So, I don't know, we should 30 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: we tell them a little bit about ourselves. Yeah, get 31 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: into it, let's go. Yeah, okay, great, all right, well 32 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: here here, here we go. Here, here's my story. I 33 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: live in New York in the New York countryside, where 34 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: I come into work New York City, as well as 35 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: other things that I do in New York City. But 36 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: I'm originally a Midwesterner, and that is a big part 37 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: of who I am, and I would say that it 38 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: has been a compass for me, actually my whole life. 39 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: And I come from Missouri, the show me state, and 40 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: I've always you know, ah, yeah, show me, don't tell me. 41 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: There was some historical there was some a year in history. 42 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: Sounds a little bit like a flasher, sounds like a lawsuit, 43 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: a lawsuit. Oh I was seeing like a trench coat 44 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,839 Speaker 2: and nothing underneath it, like that would be that would 45 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: be a lawsuit. Well, that would be a lawsuit after 46 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: the event perhaps. Anyways, So Midwesterner by birth and Los 47 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: Angeles and then New York countryside New York City or 48 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: by day. Sure. Anyways, So I live my life with 49 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: my wonderful husband, Christopher Gavigan, and our incredible children. 50 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: They are incredible. They are actually all incredible. 51 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: I know, well they're they're good. I will I would 52 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: like to keep them Luke, Eve, Poppy and Josephine. I 53 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 2: am the oldest of ten siblings. I'm just obviously someone 54 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: you should listen to, is what I. 55 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: Think I'm trying to say. 56 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: Oh god, I know it's terrible. 57 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna like this is where the pot this is 58 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: where the people are going to log off the podcast 59 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: or right, please guys stay off. 60 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: It might be a where it all? This is it. 61 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: It's been a good ride, I know dress it was 62 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: a good right. Can't wait to hear how you do 63 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: with this. 64 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: Just okay, I want to do great, everybody I do 65 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: to address this. 66 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: Okay. 67 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of speculation because my accent has 68 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: changed over time that I am not really from England, 69 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: or I'm faking this accent, or it's like some sort 70 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: of I don't know what it is, but it's in 71 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: the message boards people. 72 00:03:59,200 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: I am. 73 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: We're' in and raised England. My family is still all there. 74 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: I was from a little town called Wokingham and I 75 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: but I have lived now half my life in the US, 76 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: and I've lived kind of all over. I've lived in 77 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: New York, I've lived in small towns Susquehanna, Pennsylvania. I've 78 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: lived in I was in New York, Texas, Austin, Texas, 79 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: and obviously Los Angeles, and so yeah, I've had I 80 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: feel like I've kind of lived everywhere. And then I 81 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: moved to Los Angeles and did not become an actress 82 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: right away, and I started waiting tables at a place 83 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: in Santa Monica, and that's where I met my husband. 84 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: We bonded over absolutely hating our jobs. We were both 85 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: terrible at them, and then a million years later here 86 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: we are married with two kids. I have Lucas and Hayden. 87 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: They're both under the age of ten, which is a 88 00:04:52,120 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: really interesting time. I'm interesting also quote yes code for 89 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: interesting as code for interesting is code for all the thing. 90 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: Anyone that has kids under ten listening to this, you 91 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's a situation like I've like 92 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: I've just recovered from pink eye. 93 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: And both eyes do you know what I mean? 94 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: Like it's there because if you're gonna get in one 95 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 2: way and not get into it, don't the other eyes 96 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:19,799 Speaker 2: like jealous. 97 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: It's like you's gotta yes, yeah, come on share the well. 98 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. But I also think that I need to say 99 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: that I because this is gonna you guys are going 100 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: to hear this. I'm a Sagittarius, and if you're a Sagittarius, 101 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: you know that you are blunt and moving forward on 102 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: this podcast. What I will say what it is is 103 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: that we naturally do call it what it is. 104 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly right. 105 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's not in annot I won't say it's 106 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: an obnoxious way. 107 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: It's just that we we. 108 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: Want to be honest and it's hard. We don't sugarcoat it. 109 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: No, no, no, And you know you you can't have 110 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: that without trust. And so I think that you and 111 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 2: I both trust each other so much that when we 112 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: when we talk about things and we bring an issue 113 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: up we we know that it will be met with 114 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: you know, real like care that you care very much 115 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: what happens to me, and I care very much what 116 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: happens to you. And so it's great because when we 117 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: get the conversations. I also think there's a part of 118 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: life where I love this expression. I got it from 119 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: a friend and it really makes sense to me, which 120 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: is that sometimes things are sitting squarely in your blind 121 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: spot and and and you really can't see them. It's 122 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: not your fault, there's there's no there's nothing wrong with you. 123 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: It's just that you don't you you haven't like turned 124 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: your head and left over your shoulder. You definitely can't 125 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: see them. 126 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: Pink guy, definitely if you're a double pink guy, double. 127 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: Pink, how are you going to do that? 128 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: No, it's not happening. 129 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 2: So here's the thing. I've had some fucking problems and 130 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 2: I've called Kimila and be like, damn, what am I 131 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: going to do about this? Because X, Y and Z 132 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: is happening? And ditto Yeah, and there will be something. 133 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: She sees so clearly and explains it so well and 134 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: with such care and compassion, and it's like a light 135 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: bulb goes off, and again I trust, so I know 136 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: she has my best interest at heart, and it makes 137 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: it so much easier, It makes my problem seem so 138 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: much smaller. And also again it's like nobody, oh gosh, 139 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: you who wants to be alone in a bad feeling. 140 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: And so when you get to reach out and talk 141 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: to someone about something you're going through and they can 142 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: recall an experience that was similar to yours, you just 143 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: don't feel alone. And there's so much of that aloneness 144 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: in the world right now, and I think a lot 145 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: of people feel it, and I absolutely would love to 146 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: be a part of making sure that no one feels 147 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: alone in whatever ways that you can. So this is 148 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: one small step towards, one small step towards making one 149 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: small step towards creating an opportunity to listen in or 150 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: call in or be part of sharing your stuff, whatever 151 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: that stuff is. It's sort of like, come one, come all, 152 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: because I think that or we think that we can 153 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: handle it. Yeah we do. 154 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean what I love about my friendship with Jessica, 155 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: and I think that you guys will hear this on 156 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: the podcast too as time goes on. Is that, first off, 157 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: you're Leo, which means that you're very honest, very honest 158 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: and loyal. And when I call her, I don't feel 159 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: any judgment ever. 160 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: And I've called her with some really interesting shit. 161 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: And she and I have never, ever, ever felt judged 162 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: by her, and I know that together we can figure 163 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: it out. And sometimes it doesn't feel that way until 164 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: the end of the conversation and I get off a 165 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: phone call with her, because even though she's in New York, 166 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm still calling her every day, it feels like, oh, okay, 167 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 1: that release of like, Okay, she gets it, we can 168 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: figure it out. She has my back, She's being honest 169 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: with me. She's also not a yes person. I feel 170 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: like in this city, honestly, in the world, there's just 171 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: so many yes people that surround you, and you have 172 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: no idea who's real, who's fake, who's gonna give it 173 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: to you straight? And I really have always just loved 174 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: that about you. 175 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: What you just said actually is something that I think 176 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: is so important about what we're hoping to do here, 177 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: is that you and I, for lots of reasons that 178 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: we'll go into later about our own upbringings, we are 179 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: people who have gotten to this place in our life 180 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: because we've been able to figure it out. And it 181 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that it's always been easy, and it doesn't 182 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: mean that it's always been hard. But no matter what, 183 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: you and I are both uniquely interested in figuring it 184 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: out with optimism but genuinely like I have a lot 185 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: of people in my life where like, you can't fucking 186 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: do it, Like you can't do that, or this is 187 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: not possible or whatever, and I'm definitely always the person 188 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: that thinks, why not why can't I figure it out? 189 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: Why can't why why couldn't I have my first choice? 190 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: I mean, be with my second choice if that's what 191 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: needs to happen, But can we get to a first choice? 192 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: So I love the figuring out of it all, and 193 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: I think that you do too, And I love that 194 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: we we together feel that everything is figure outable and 195 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: therefore can create a space where again, when you call 196 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: in or you write in, you're able to you know, 197 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: express that and sort of be met with you know, 198 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 2: some team members. We're team members, we're teammates, we are teammates. 199 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: We are well we want a bigger team, and that's 200 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: what we want, a bigger team. We need to talk 201 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: about how we met Justica we were on this very little, 202 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: tiny little show, tiny little show, Gray's Anatomy, Gray's Anatomy, 203 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: and you played who did you play? 204 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: I played doctor Arizona Robbins, and I played doctor Josephine Wilson. 205 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: And we met how many years ago? I was trying to. 206 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: Do the math A long time ago. Let's just say 207 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: it when I was twenty one. Yeah, no, long time, 208 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: long time ago, twelve years ago. 209 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: And I think that because we have such a solid 210 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: friendship now, the assumption is that we have always been friends, 211 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: like we must have met and it was like ran 212 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: into each other and. 213 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: I was like, who are you going? Yeah, and it 214 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: was like we were just friends totally. 215 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 3: Like here's my friendship, bracelet call me. 216 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: It was not the case. It was not the case 217 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: for us. This was not our story. 218 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: No, And I feel like, if we're gonna be honest 219 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: on this podcast, yes and kind of like talk about 220 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: some real shit. 221 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: Yep, did you like it? Let's just get into it. 222 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 2: When I first met you. 223 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I did not. 224 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: I know this is shocking. I did not. I did 225 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 2: not like you. 226 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: I did not not like you, which the double negative 227 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: would be here, I go, let's get used to here. 228 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: We go, because usually I have a wind up. She says, 229 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: here we go. Okay, so we'll hold on. 230 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 4: So what happened was that when I first met you, 231 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 4: I maybe had just had a baby and was coming 232 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 4: back to work, and I was feeling very insecure about 233 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 4: pretty much everything. And I think that when you are insecure, 234 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 4: you're sort of just not receptive to the world, or 235 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 4: you sort of doubt everyone and everything around you, but 236 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 4: mostly yourself. And I think that maybe that was why 237 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 4: when I first met you, I couldn't see all of 238 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 4: your inner glory and I was I was just focused 239 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 4: on my own insecure feelings. 240 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 3: Let's let's get into Okay, great, so. 241 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: I'm call it. Let's call it what it is. So 242 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: in calling it what it is, I might have met 243 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 2: you very soon after a pregnancy that I had just 244 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: had my second sweet baby girl, and I was back 245 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 2: at work after truly that was not along. That was 246 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: not a long maternity leave for me. 247 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: So maybe like, oh, you left the hospital and you 248 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: like ubered to sat, I over took the table read yeah. 249 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: I was like, we got this, I got this, I 250 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: got this, I can do it all. And I might 251 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: have shown up to set and the the people were 252 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 2: a twitter about some beautiful new woman coming to the show. Yeah, 253 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 2: I think we got that part. And then I figured 254 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: that they could proably jump ahead and know that that 255 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: was the part. And anyway, so beautiful new woman coming. 256 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: I think you came in with another guy, do you 257 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 2: remember him? 258 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: I came in with a whole intern, class I only 259 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: remember two of you. 260 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: Okay, there weren't five of us. I think it was 261 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 2: you and Jesse. Jessica. You were what that was, Sarah true. 262 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: I could be wrong about these. 263 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: Fans right now screaming at this point. 264 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 2: That's okay, guys, guess what call call it what it is. 265 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 2: I can be wrong and. 266 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 3: We can still intern Classy can would in fine. 267 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: You came in, beautiful young woman coming in. Everything else. 268 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: I might have just had a baby. Maybe I wasn't 269 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 2: feeling my you know, my sharpest or bestest ever. And 270 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: I think that these things can happen where all of 271 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: a sudden, I was looking across at this again beautiful 272 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: young woman and not feeling myself, and I was like, 273 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: I don't know that I'm gonna like her. I just 274 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: I'm not sure I'm gonna like her. 275 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I did not know that I was just came 276 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: and looking gorgeous, minding my own business. Yeah, and then 277 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: it kind of I realized kind of. 278 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: Quickly that you didn't like me. 279 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: Because let's call it the burger truck incident of twenty 280 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: twelve burger gate, burger gate. So that is really where 281 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: the story shows. Let meet, that's where it should start, 282 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: because listen, in my defense, Shonda Rhymes, it's common onsets 283 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: to get a food truck to celebrate certain a Friday, 284 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: a Friday, the two yes, yes, and there was a 285 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: lovely burger truck, and I thought, oh, I should I 286 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: hadn't seen I hadn't seen. 287 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 3: A food truck yet. 288 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 2: On set. 289 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: I snapped a picture of the truck and was like, 290 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to post it on Twitter and tag Sean 291 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: and say thank you for the burger truck, which is 292 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: very polite. That is really nice. 293 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: Someone wasn't a fan of it. What happened after you 294 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: posted the picture? Yeah, so how did you know that 295 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: I didn't like it? Should we just be honest? 296 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what we're here for. Let me paint 297 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: the picture for everybody. I'm sitting my own business. The 298 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: picture has been posted. We're sitting in Castres and Jessa 299 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: comes in and she's like picture and I was like, 300 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: oh my god, it might have been fire breathing. And 301 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: you were not happy because you tell. 302 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: Me what the picture looked like, Camela, that you posted. 303 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: Okay, the picture in your mind or the post another well, 304 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: that we can find it the actual picture. Was talking 305 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: about how it is my mistake a slither of Jessica 306 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: Capshaw to the side. 307 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: And do what was I doing in the picture? 308 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 3: You were eating? You were eating? 309 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: Was it maybe you're a lovely picture of you were 310 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: maybe a burger. 311 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: I don't know what was going on. 312 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: I was kind on the truck. I was going to 313 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: eat that burger in one bite. Yeah I did. I 314 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: probably did. I scarfed that burger in the back of 315 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: a picture. That would be I think probably considered. And 316 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: probably you. I know you and how you consider pictures 317 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: that are posted. You highly considered that photo. You looked 318 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 2: great in that phone. 319 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 3: I did you even? 320 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: Okay? 321 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 3: First off, was I even in the picture? 322 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: Am I remembering it wrong? Yeah? 323 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: We might need to find this photo. Okay, fans will 324 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: find this photo in two seconds. You were in it 325 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: for like a slither. Okay, you were eating the burgers, 326 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: as was everybody else. And I posted it and then 327 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: you were like, you. 328 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 3: Need to ask before you and. 329 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: I was because I was new and terrified and this 330 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: is Jessica capsuleaw and I was like okay. 331 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: And then and then I. 332 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: Was like, okay, she full on hates me, Like Burgergate happened, 333 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: and the vibes were not good. 334 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 2: They weren't great. I didn't hate you. I don't hate it. 335 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 1: No, you strongly like you just liked what she didn't. Yes, 336 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: you weren't a fan. 337 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 3: And then and then we should talk about how we 338 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: actually became friends. 339 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 2: So that happened. That was a real story because that happened. 340 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: And then we we didn't really have storylines together, so 341 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 2: we just sort of existed. Yeah, and you know, all 342 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 2: was always right in the universe then and then we 343 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: have friends in common on the show yep. Yeah, and 344 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 2: they always they always, they always did say that you 345 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: really were great. I was getting it wrong because they 346 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 2: stood up for you. Yeah. I was like, she's strategic. 347 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: That's the word I have for you. She's just strategic. 348 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: There's something about you. 349 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 3: Actually told me that I was a cheeting strategic. 350 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 2: I said it to your face. 351 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 3: Yes, you did, I remember up front and I said, thanks. 352 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 3: I assume that. 353 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 2: We was a compliment. It's a compliment. Yeah, it's like. 354 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: As so Jessica and I. Long story short, we invited 355 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: a group of people separately. We kind of like helped 356 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: organize together people to go to dinner at Katsuya, a 357 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: sushi rataurant in Los Angeles. 358 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: And at this point we got along fine. We were 359 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 2: we were fine, we were okind and. 360 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: We were the only ones that showed up. Basically everyone 361 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: canceled on us, which I don't know what that says 362 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: about us. 363 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: And I thought, I've thought about this. I think it 364 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 2: really was. I actually genuinely remember it being like someone 365 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: had to work early the next morning and someone had 366 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 2: a kid that was yes. 367 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 4: No. 368 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: I think it was also the night of our. 369 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: Wrap party, which is the party that happens at the 370 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: end of every season. I think we were posting before. 371 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: I think it was a different party for a pre party. 372 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,239 Speaker 1: People couldn't anyway. Dress and I were there. 373 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,239 Speaker 3: We were together on a date at Katsua, just us, 374 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 3: and then we just fell in love. 375 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: We totally did. It was just the mood, the mood 376 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: was right, the lighting was right, was gleaming she was, Yes, 377 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 2: it was. 378 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 3: And then truly that is that was our first year 379 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 3: working together, truly. 380 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 2: Yes, And then we really did become friends immediately. It 381 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 2: was instant ease and total belonging. Yes, And we laughed 382 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: a lot together on that is our In fact, it's 383 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: actually really good that we didn't have a lot of 384 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: scenes together because it would have ruined a lot of 385 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 2: scenes together. Yeah, for sure. It's the I always think 386 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: that the kind of laughter that I had with you 387 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 2: is the kind that I had in high school with 388 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 2: my best friend, where it really wasn't in my control 389 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: to stop, like I didn't have There's it's a valve 390 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: that gets turned on and I can't turn it off. 391 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 3: And that's a problem when you're shooting. 392 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: Well because yes, because they're paying you not to last, 393 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 2: you to do your job exactly right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. 394 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: So then we were friends yep. 395 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: And then and it's been about twelve I want to say, 396 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: twelve years now. Yeh, friendship, I bet I bet that 397 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: booth that sounds right. 398 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 2: And then yeah, ups and downs in all rounds and pregnancies, 399 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: oh gosh, pregnancies. Then we actually did have a storyline 400 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: together when you were pregnant, you say a little bit 401 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: about that, just a little bit to like, you know, 402 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 2: talk about your work, your work life balance, okay, and 403 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 2: your mentality when. 404 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: Okay, hang on, let me just talk about pregnancy as 405 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: I have shop. Jessica was like, you should get pregnant 406 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: Gray Nanny because it's the most supportive. 407 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: Set everh blah blah blah. 408 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 4: It is. 409 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: That is true, but Jessica made it look easy. As 410 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 3: an actress. You want to talk about like showing up beautiful. 411 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: You were like glowing okay, and I was like, oh 412 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: my god, this is what pregnancy looks like as a 413 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: working actress. 414 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 3: I was like, yes, she's right, Yes, the show is 415 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 3: extremely supportive. No, I was not glowing. 416 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: I you were, though, was like a troll through my pregnancy, sweating, disgusting, 417 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: and I was not the exact opposite of Johnny. I 418 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: was a false advertising and we had a standalone together. 419 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: I was a little delicate. Maybe just think about it, sure, yeah, stly, okay, totally, okay, Burgergate, 420 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: you want to talk about it a little. I was 421 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: a little delicate, So I'm delicate. After you're a baby, 422 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: you're delicate. 423 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: Duram. 424 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 5: Yes. 425 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 2: Time, so uh yeah, So we had. 426 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: A standalone together and I was pregnant bookey prison episode, 427 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: the prison episode. 428 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 3: Yes, And did I ask for an extra large throne. 429 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: To sit on? Sure? Maybe I did, just to ask 430 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 2: for her chair to be just right offset, not like 431 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: where our normal cast chairs are. She would like it 432 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: about twenty paces closer to the set so that she 433 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 2: didn't have to take twenty extra steps offset. Do we 434 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 2: have to go through everything like? 435 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: It's a genuine question, and maybe the half hour lunch 436 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: has really got under your skin. They did, okay, but 437 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: I do think we should talk about this is how 438 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: amazing our friendship feels to me and so super super special. 439 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: When I was pregnant and I did have my baby, 440 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: this is how amazing Jessica Capsurez as a friend. I 441 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: forgot how to swaddle my first child, Hayden was a baby. 442 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: They tell you when you are you know, like babies 443 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: loved to be sluttled tight. No, my child was a 444 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: ninja at five days old and she was getting out 445 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: of that swattle and I was like, I don't know how. 446 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: To do this. 447 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 3: And I called Jessica, and you were I don't know if. 448 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: You remember this, you were driving on the freeway and 449 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: you pulled off at the exit and you're passing my 450 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: house and she came over just to show me how 451 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: to swaddle, and then left and you're on your way, 452 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: Like that's that just says everything about who you are. 453 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: As a friend. I do remember, and I do, and 454 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 2: it was it was I genuinely felt like it was 455 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: my It was my privilege, Like these things that we learn, 456 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 2: and like what are we if we don't pass them on? 457 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 5: Right? 458 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 2: So it's just it. I mean, it was. It was 459 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 2: as easy as anything. Yeah, And I think that that's something. 460 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: So, yes, we want to like we have been there 461 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: for each other in like these huge moments, all the 462 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: ups and downs. 463 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 3: And then moments like that. Yeah, and then you have 464 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 3: moved to the opposite coast. 465 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 2: Yes, so I think that there was definitely a moment 466 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 2: where you know, you have your work friends and you 467 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 2: have this incredibly rich life and even if you are 468 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 2: pulling up freeways to go see each other and have 469 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 2: a moment, but you always know you have that work 470 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: time together, so you count on it for connection and 471 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: everything else. And then my time at Grace ended, and 472 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 2: I think neither but both of us were so right 473 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 2: or I at that point that I don't think either 474 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 2: one of us was like, oh, maybe maybe it won't 475 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 2: be the same. But I think that anyone from the 476 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 2: outside would say they're probably going to lose content. Yeah, yeah, 477 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: because you don't have that built in place to connect. 478 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: And and it didn't, right, it just didn't didn't. 479 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: We kept we talked just as much, and it was 480 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: probably in a weird way more because we were relied 481 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: on seeing each other on the show. 482 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 3: But we didn't work together enough on the show. 483 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 2: It's true, it's true. Yeah, So, but it just didn't. 484 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 2: And so we and I knew exactly where you were, 485 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: and I mean sometimes I remember I remember getting a 486 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: phone off for me on a Friday night and super late. 487 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, just I knew. There's not many 488 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 2: people who know exactly what it is to do what 489 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: you do, right, We all do different things, and I 490 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 2: and I do, and I did, and then and then 491 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 2: and then absolutely we would have each other at our 492 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 2: homes and I remember you being there for the Mermaid 493 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 2: birthday party, the Mermaid. 494 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 3: Berth, for pop party, for Poppy Jans and Hayden's first birthday. Yes, yes, 495 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 3: and like Easter replaced. 496 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so much fun. And then and then we decided 497 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 2: to move our family to New York and we were 498 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: out asking. I didn't even as I know, I know, 499 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't. 500 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: I didn't, I know, And I remember there was a 501 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: point where You're like, so, but where exactly? And I 502 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: was like, you know you're gonna come, You're gonna come, 503 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: come with me. Can we just talk about. 504 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 3: Where you live? 505 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: Because if you google maps where Jessica lives, you'll just 506 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: see like a field on. 507 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 5: Like one horse and then it's like her house. I 508 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 5: think you google map, horse is like where am I? 509 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 2: The horse was like, I love you and that's your 510 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 2: best friend there, which is why why our time so much. 511 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 2: I moved just outside of New York City because I 512 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 2: have four children, and I did not think that the 513 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 2: city life was not I think, conducive to We will 514 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 2: get it. We'll talk about this much more later. But yes, 515 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 2: I just I'm so invested in raising the best human 516 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: beings that I possibly can, and it didn't feel like 517 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: the city was going to check all the boxes. So 518 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: now I'm not. 519 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 3: So they're still here, My kids are still here. 520 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: They're very young, still they're very young still. So we 521 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 2: moved just outside New York City, and you would have 522 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 2: thought that our friendship would change, and it didn't. 523 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 4: No. 524 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: I think. 525 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: Also the thing that is important to note is that 526 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: you and I early days would always talk about maybe 527 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: this is why I was. 528 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: I called you strategic because I saw in you what 529 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 2: I see in myself, but I wasn't ready to like 530 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 2: really confront it yet. Was it. Actually you gotta have 531 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: a fucking plan. You gotta be strategic. What are you 532 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 2: If you're strategic? You're not just along for the ride, 533 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: Like you don't want to be in the in the 534 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: passenger seat all the time. You want to be in 535 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 2: the driver's seat. So being strategic and thinking about the 536 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 2: future and thinking about what you want to contribute, especially 537 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: when you're on a show where you know, I found 538 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 2: jobs to be incredibly creative and I love being an 539 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: actress and it's so much fun, and it's also really 540 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 2: hard and incredibly complex on some level. 541 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: And you're speaking someone else's words. You're not the driver 542 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: of the car. You're you're along for the ride on 543 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: some level. 544 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: And so you and I early days would talk about 545 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 2: what we wanted that was more whatever it was do 546 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: we want to produce like kids or a book? To find? 547 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: We want to produce something? Do you want to pitch 548 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 2: a show? How is even when we were there is 549 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 2: my storyline? What's what's happening here? 550 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: Like? 551 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 2: Are there ideas? Are there things like push the limits 552 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 2: be a part of creating what you want? And so 553 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 2: we would talk. We would talk often about that kind 554 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 2: of stuff. And then and then we both got invited 555 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 2: to do a like a Grays Con in Paris. 556 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: In Paris, yes, and and it was an opportunity to 557 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: go and you know, meet and be with fans and 558 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: people who love all things Grays. 559 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 2: And it was also there was an opportunity to tag 560 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 2: on two days in Paris with your bestie. We basically 561 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 2: made it a girls is what Jess is trying to 562 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 2: get up? This is what we did. And then we 563 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: had the best time, best time. And I'm a little 564 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: bit like I like to be. I'm very big. I 565 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: love organizing, so I so I was like, you know, 566 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 2: I was a little more on the itinerary based part 567 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 2: of it all. I'd be like, where are we. 568 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 3: Stay a little more? 569 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: I would just roll out of head. 570 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: I was like a lemming, like I would follow Jess 571 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: to wherever you know we would be going, and we 572 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: were we were the tourists, and we were tourists and 573 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: Paris we were tourists because sometimes we know we were going, 574 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: so we had to pull out that Google Maps. Yeah, 575 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: we did Google a you're going to pay us for this. 576 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: We talked about you a lot, No, but we should 577 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: talk about also that what we discovered, which is what 578 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: you can't guess with someone is whether even if you 579 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: have a great friendship, you don't know how two people 580 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: are going to travel together. Because I've traveled with some girlfriends. 581 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: We'll get into this in another episode, and it's not fun. 582 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: It's really not fun. 583 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: And you don't like to wake up at this same time. 584 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: You don't want to get we are off. 585 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you're like, oh this is this is 586 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 3: you traveling? 587 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: Like, Okay, I don't know if we would be friends 588 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,959 Speaker 1: if we traveled, if we travel Yeah, but we travel 589 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: so well together and we had a blast. And I 590 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: think one of the things that like sparked this idea 591 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: for the podcast too, is we had we never did 592 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: interviews together, and we were on stage together and we 593 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: had to fun interviews together and we just had. I mean, 594 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: it was a trip, it was fantastic, and we walked away, 595 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: and I think that hunger for us to like, what 596 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: are we going to do together? 597 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: Yes, and also that we were that we we we 598 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: both love making fun of ourselves. You like making fun 599 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: of me more than and you're better at it. Maybe 600 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: I am of you, but we do we like we 601 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 2: we love the humor in it, and we don't mind it. 602 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 2: We don't mind being the better the joke. No, we don't. 603 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: We actually put ourselves squarely in that seat, in that seat, yes, yeah, 604 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: And that happens a lot when you're traveling. And also 605 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: for anyone who knows jet lag, it is real. And 606 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: I think it's probably it was probably day two or 607 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 2: three that you get real silly, it's usually day two. 608 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: But there were a couple back of the taxi rides 609 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 2: that tears tears falling down, So we kind of like, 610 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: by the way, when we were in. 611 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: Paris, I should say this, it makes us some ridiculous, 612 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: but justsin and I did walk into some places thinking 613 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: like okay, we like, let's grab a table. You know 614 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles you can kind of walk in and 615 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: be like, hey, can I get a table, not because 616 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: of who we are. 617 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: Oh, should we reenact? 618 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: Just because of the show, but just like it's a 619 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: little casual, right, like you can walk in and be like, hey, 620 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: get in. Maybe it's a fifteen in a weight in Paris. 621 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 2: We found out it's a little different. Should we reenact? 622 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: How about we mean, how about you play the hostess? 623 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 4: No? 624 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: No, no, I think you should play the host? Oh okay, Bobby, 625 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: you be me? Okakay, okay. 626 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 2: So we were told that there was a really beautiful 627 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 2: trass to go have a little dinner at. 628 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: And as a terrorist for anyone that can terrible terrace. 629 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: So we were told about the terrace, and we walked 630 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: over to this hotel that it was at, and this, 631 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: I mean the gentleman sold it like it was no 632 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: big deal. 633 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: By the way. He was like yeah, and I was 634 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: your lemming. So I'm like, let's go. We're gonna we 635 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: walked in with confidence. 636 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 5: We did. 637 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, we walked straight up to the host to stand. 638 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 2: We had no reservation and and by the way, the 639 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 2: restaurant was dead. There was there was no one was clear, 640 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 2: yeah it was there was no one was in line 641 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 2: for this place. No, no, okay. And then There was 642 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: also outside of the terrace, which was never gonna say 643 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 2: the other way. It was like a square shaped. There 644 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: was then like an auxiliary area on the outside of 645 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 2: the square where you could like sit and yeah, you 646 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: could sit and you could just look into the terrace 647 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: like you were. 648 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: You were like an audience member for people eating in 649 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: the in the terrace, which is where you wanted to be. 650 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 3: It was sunny, it was beautiful, is outside. 651 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 2: I was where you imagined that at any moment, Leonardo 652 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 2: DiCaprio would be, you know, sitting there with an entourage exactly. 653 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: And we wanted to casual. We wanted that vibe. We 654 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: wanted that vibe for ourselves. We felt that it was organic. 655 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: We felt that what happened to think it was a stretch. 656 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 2: So we went up to the host to stand and 657 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: so you're going to do it. 658 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, Hi, I'm going to be that Jessica is 659 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: actually really playing the part of the Okay, this is 660 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: how Jessica talks. 661 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 2: Hi, do you have a no? 662 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 3: Okay? But the terrors if it's not just we're just 663 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 3: going to be here for and it's gonna here for 664 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: five it's just a tea. 665 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 2: We were it was no, it was now and it 666 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 2: was an end of the beginning and the end. 667 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 3: No. 668 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they let us know that that section was 669 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: for hotel and it was going to be packed, jamming, 670 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: and I gotta be in my bonnet. 671 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 3: I was pissed. 672 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and n I mean, honestly, I shouldn't have been. 673 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: I don't know who I thought I was, but I 674 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: was unhappy with her answer, and then I lied, do 675 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 2: you remember what I lied about? 676 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 3: You said that we were staying in the hotel? 677 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: Did you know? 678 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: I said I called earlier and someone said it was fine, Yes, yes, 679 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: but we should have said we were staying at the 680 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: hotel done like. 681 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: A Well we weren't. 682 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: And I knew we didn't have a key that was 683 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: not gonna pass master. But I but I said that 684 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: I called earlier, yeah, and that yes, and she said no. 685 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: And she said no. 686 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 3: So we sat. 687 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: We ended up sitting because we're like, we're not leaving. 688 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: We end up sitting in the seats that looked onto 689 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: the terrace. So we were like stalkers with our cocktails 690 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: looking at who would be sad? 691 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 2: And every time someone knew came onto the terrace, yes, 692 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 2: I would be like I don't think they're staying here. 693 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: I exactly, I don't think here's the kicker you guys. 694 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: And I really, honestly I love being humbled, not that 695 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: I think that like we're like the coolest people in 696 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: the whole world. 697 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 2: But our waiter came over and I said, Hey, this 698 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 2: was embarrassing. Just look me, and I'm not going to 699 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: tell the whole stock. I just good. 700 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 3: I was like, hey, look me in the end, not 701 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 3: everyone on the terrace and staying at the hotel or 702 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 3: a wink wink, nudge nudge. And he was like, no, 703 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 3: sometimes if there's a celebrity that. 704 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 6: Shows up, I don't remember. He's like, they sit there 705 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 6: and just like we're like, okay, And. 706 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: We were so humbled in that moment waiting for celebrities 707 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: to show up on the sidelines. Anyway, I don't even 708 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: know why we had to tell this humiliating story. So basically, 709 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: we've been through some shit together, including the terraces. 710 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 2: Yes, so then we come back and we go back 711 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 2: to our lives, and then I remember there being a 712 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 2: case where Camilla's memory got sparked about a very funny 713 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 2: story that happened there. She called me. I was with 714 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 2: Christopher in the car. I answered. We talked, and by 715 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 2: the end of it, I was laughing so so hard, 716 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 2: so so so hard. I was crying, laughing, laughing, laughing, 717 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 2: And we hung up and Christaph looked at me and 718 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 2: he was like, I don't I actually don't know anyone 719 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 2: who makes you laugh that hard, Like I don't hear 720 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 2: that laugh often. That's a that's a real laugh. 721 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: We needed diapers in Paris, like our pants like a 722 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 1: hundred times. 723 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, in public. And so then we came home and 724 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 2: we entered our lives, and I had already been in 725 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 2: conversations about I was really interested in the podcast and 726 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 2: this is what they say. I was really interested in 727 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: the podcast space. So I had been exploring it was 728 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 2: exploring the podcast space. 729 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 4: And and so. 730 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 2: But the thing was kind of like I it was, 731 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 2: you want to do it by yourself. 732 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 5: I did. 733 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 2: I would have done it by myself, oh the truth. 734 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 2: No no, no, I mean like I would have but adventure. 735 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 2: Would you just calm down. 736 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: I would have done myself. I would have done myself. 737 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: I would have done it to myself. 738 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 3: But you needed some star quality. 739 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: I needed some star quality and I needed uh you 740 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 1: shut up? Oh why I'm here, I will, I'm about 741 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: to say something nice. Don't make this hard, Okay. So 742 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: I thought about it, and then I just, I don't know, 743 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: something else happened and you and I were talking, and 744 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: you were also similarly interested in it, and I just 745 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 1: thought our conversations are so easy and they're so organic, 746 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: and I so consider myself to be I know other 747 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: people would try to say they were, but I. 748 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 2: Truly feel like one of your number one fans. I'm 749 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 2: sure there's more than when I'm one number one fan, 750 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 2: but I am one of your number one fans, and 751 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 2: I love being with you. I love talking to you, 752 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 2: and I think that the things that we. 753 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I feel like kind of emotional right now, 754 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: but we're here doing this, Okay, I continue. 755 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 3: Continuing the compliments. What else. 756 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 2: Tears so exactly? So I remember then, say, I remember 757 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 2: calling Uni and being like, okay, what do I what 758 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 2: do we need? And it was like literally like just 759 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 2: give me a couple of sentences to go with, like 760 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 2: what is this about? What is podcast about? And so 761 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 2: I think I believe it was my idea to then 762 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 2: just like write my half of you, like my my 763 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 2: my feeling about you are story and whatever. And I 764 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 2: truly remember probably being my car where most mothers are 765 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 2: because we don't have offices, being in my car and 766 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 2: staying there and writing like a paragraph. 767 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: And sending it to UNI and sending it to you know, 768 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 1: sending it to you and saying, hey, can you write 769 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: something like this back? And then you know, we'll get 770 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: notes on it, we'll refine in whatever. 771 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 2: Whatever. You wrote something back that made me laugh so hard. 772 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 2: I sent it off to Uni and I was like, okay, 773 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 2: so well, you know I can I can change it, 774 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 2: I can edit it whatever. She was like, no, this 775 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 2: is it, this is perfect, this is done. And then 776 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 2: it got sent off. 777 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 3: And then we had the conversation about what the podcast 778 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 3: should be. 779 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: And I'm going to be honest, like I listened to 780 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: a lot of podcasts and I felt like like I 781 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: wanted to do something a little bit different that could 782 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: include our listeners. And so we came up with the 783 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: idea of call it what it is, which feels like 784 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,439 Speaker 1: we have our like you know, you have your inner 785 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: circle of like your friendship, right, and it feels like 786 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: we're going to expand it out with the podcast. And 787 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: our intention is with this going forward is that we 788 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: want to help help us help you, like we want 789 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: to solve your problems. 790 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 2: Solve solved, it's the only way, So we. 791 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: Want to help solve your problems like we've helped solve 792 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 1: each other's problems. 793 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 2: Yes, when you're having an issue or when you have 794 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 2: a problem, you feel so alone and you're pretty much 795 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 2: convinced that you're the only person that's ever had the problem. 796 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 2: And it's a wild thing that your mind does to you. 797 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 2: And what I have found in friendship is that the 798 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 2: minute you say it, and that you have a compassionate 799 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 2: partner who cares about you and loves you and sees 800 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 2: the best in you, you have a direct access to 801 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 2: resolve to an answer because that person sees you in 802 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 2: a different way than you do. And you don't feel 803 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 2: alone anymore. And again, the world is the world can 804 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 2: be a lonely place, and people can feel alone, but 805 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 2: they don't need to because they can tune in to 806 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 2: us on this podcast where we will call it what. 807 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 3: It is exactly right. 808 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: We need to let all of our new friends know 809 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: where they can find us to tell us our problem. 810 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: Oh yes, please please please please, Okay, where they can 811 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: find us? Yeah, they're going to dm US. Well, first 812 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: they're going to go to Instagram and they're going to 813 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: follow us and call it what it is, right, yeah, 814 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 1: and then they can dm us. They can slive I 815 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: didn't do ida. We want you to slide into the 816 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: DMS slide hard. There's something so naughty about that. Yes, writing, yeah, 817 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: I but slide with details. But you know what, if 818 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: you're feeling a little, you know, less naughty, you can 819 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: also just email us absolutely, email us at what call 820 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 1: it at iHeartRadio dot com. 821 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Is there any other way to contact us, Jess? Well, 822 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 2: I mean if you felt like just picking up the phone, Yeah, yeah, 823 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 2: just like maybe one of those pink phones like in 824 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 2: the promos that you see us in exactly. And what's 825 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 2: that number? 826 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 1: Well, the number is eight three three seven call it yeah, 827 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: which also would be eight three three seven two two 828 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: five five four eight exactly. I hope we can our 829 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: own all lines of communication for me, our own jingle. 830 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 2: Like a three three seven seven. It's awesome, It's a 831 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 2: three three seven goll it. So again, you can either 832 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 2: go the insta route, you can go the email route, 833 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 2: you can go the calling us route, yes, or in 834 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 2: the future you can go the live route. Yes, the answer, 835 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,919 Speaker 2: well we answer the phone. Yes we will, we will, 836 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 2: exactly right. 837 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, And for anyone that wants to contact us and 838 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: remain anonymous, you absolutely can't. We do not have to 839 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,439 Speaker 1: tell anybody your handle or who you are anything else. 840 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 1: We can keep it all nice and yeah. 841 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah they could even if they wanted to. They could 842 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 2: use like a voice scrambler. They could call and they 843 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 2: could be you know. 844 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 3: Like in scream. 845 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. 846 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, wow wow we. 847 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 1: Would also, I mean, or you could get AI involved 848 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: and like they sound like right Dolly partner, but they're not. 849 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 3: Is that you? 850 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much for joining us. This is 851 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 2: oh my goodness. Conclusion of the first episode. I love it. 852 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 2: How are you feeling, Jess? I feel great. I feel great. 853 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 2: I love talking to you. I love talking about what 854 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 2: we're hoping to do. It's exciting, it's full of possibilities. 855 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, exact. 856 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,760 Speaker 2: I'm really excited to I'm really excited to hear from everybody. 857 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 2: Me too. 858 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm also really I'm also really excitedly, I'm really excited 859 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: about future guests me too. 860 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 2: I've already had people. I've had people slide into my 861 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 2: dms asking you know about guesting just so we're clear, 862 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 2: very exciting people too, and they're gonna come on and 863 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 2: by the way, they are also going to help us 864 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,399 Speaker 2: solve all the problems. Yeah, or at least figure out 865 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 2: the next best step. How about we do that, Like, 866 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 2: maybe there'll be things that we actually genuinely figure out. 867 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll figure out the next best step. Maybe there'll 868 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 2: be a two parter. Who knows, we don't know. That's 869 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 2: why the possibilities are endless. 870 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly right. 871 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: And for those of you wondering just before we go, 872 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 1: if we will ever hear back from people whose problems 873 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: we have quote unquote solved, Yes, we may get a revisit, 874 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: a repeat, a repeat visitor, a repeat visitor. Yes, I 875 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,760 Speaker 1: mean listen, all of this is to say, this guy's 876 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: the limit, exactly right. And this has been the very 877 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: first episode, the very first episode, the premiere episode 878 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,760 Speaker 2: Of Call It What Is Bye Friends,