WEBVTT - "The Model Expert" with Michelle De Swarte 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:05.200 Hello, Hello, Hello, Hey, what's up guys? 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:08.280 Oh my god, Welcome to the Unofficial Expert Podcast with 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:09.799 Sydney and Marie. 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:12.040 Oh my goodness, my voice is done. 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:15.440 Oh yeah, but do you hear mine? Does mine sound? Here? 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:15.680 We go? 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:18.960 This is Marie and this is ce Sydney. Okay, we 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:20.640 almost sounded like the one the same person. 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.280 I know. Well, sometimes when we talk, people can't tell 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:26.200 the difference until one of us says something nice, and 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:27.680 then they're like, Sidney. 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:31.640 No, actually I've been getting really mean. 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:34.959 Yeah, oh my god, I've been getting They're like, yo, 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:36.559 you hanging out with Marie way too much. 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:38.040 I'm so proud, proud. 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:39.960 Sometimes you don't even have to start me off. I 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:44.360 start off me and I won Sydney, Sydney. 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:50.080 Elizabeth, Oh my goodness, what were you an expert in 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:50.440 this week? 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:50.800 Marie? 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:53.000 This week, I was an expert at being a good friend. 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.720 Okay, and that's not something that I'm usually an expert at, 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:57.360 but I was an expert at that. Because I got 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:01.600 on a bus for someone's birthday part. I got on 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:05.040 a bus to DC, well from d C, but to 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:06.920 come back to New York. But I went all the 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:09.399 way to Washington d C. To be somebody's friend and 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:10.440 help them celebrate their. 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:12.840 Birthday, and that's something you would never First of all, 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:14.560 we got a ride there. We were first we were 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:15.680 gonna pay for a bus. 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:17.920 Well, let's tell them the whole story. Then let's give 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.120 them all of the tea. We had to go to 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:23.360 New Jersey for this ride. So like, that's that. Like, 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:26.000 if I'm going to New Jersey, I really like you, okay, 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:27.680 because I don't even like I wouldn't even go to 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:30.399 Jersey for myself. All right, somebody was like meet me 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:32.600 to hobok and I'd be like, no, lose my number. 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:33.040 Who's this? 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.640 Can we talk about how I got no sleep that night? 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:37.479 I got no sleep. I went to work, and then 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:39.399 from work I went to the diner and then went 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:40.080 to New Jersey. 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:44.080 Yeah, and then you went to Washington, d C. Right. 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:45.920 I think I'm being a good friend with you as well. 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.320 Uh, yeah you are, because Sydney text me at seven 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:49.800 o'clock in the morning the day we were supposed to 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:52.160 leave and like I'm ready to call the whole thing off, 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:54.800 and I was like, well, I'm packing now, so let 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:57.440 me know if I need to put these shoes in 0:01:57.640 --> 0:01:57.880 or not. 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:00.840 I called you twice, so it was like, bitch, if 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:02.440 you're at the gym right now, I'm killing you. 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:02.880 I know. 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:03.800 She was so mad. 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:06.040 I was sleeping. I didn't get. I didn't get a 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:08.000 ton of sleep that night either, But I wow, I 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:09.280 forgot I had on an eyeliner. 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:11.200 Anyway, my face looks crazy now. 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:15.320 But I I packed. I like to pack it right 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:19.280 before I leave, otherwise forget something. I mean, I always 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.679 forget something anyway. But I had to go to the 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:23.640 store and get pillows. So I'm traveling with like this 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.160 giant Ikia bag with pillows in it. I look like 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:29.799 I'm running away from home to New Jersey. So I 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:31.400 look like I was running back home. I don't know, 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:34.680 but I we were up really early. We get there, 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:36.280 and then the girl who were supposed to meet. 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:39.400 Was late, right she almost didn't make the train. Listen. 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.040 It was a whole weekend of watching people drink Hennessee 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.200 and judging him and thinking, you know what, my life 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:47.200 is not that bad. That was the whole weekend. I 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:49.280 just want to go home and sleep in a real bit. 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:53.400 Me and Marie were in an air mattress togethers and 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:56.080 we only had one blanket, so I'm wrapped up like 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:56.679 a burrito. 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.440 Marie's literally falling off the air. Match has her butt 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:05.440 on me the entire weekend. I was like sis, but 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:06.320 but I had that down. 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:07.960 I had him on though. 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:15.519 I I was like slide down and uh. The whole 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:17.760 weekend was like themed. She had like a night we 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:19.400 all had to wear black, and then a brunch we 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:21.240 had to wear nude or blush. 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:22.359 Was too much. 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:24.000 You were like, we're being good friends. 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.280 I was like, black people, come on you, the color 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:28.480 Coordnation all this, like the boats. 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:30.560 Can we can we do something simple? 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.600 Dinner? Dinner, maybe a movie, drinks? 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:34.800 No, I don't want to go to a movie on 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:35.640 my birthday? What? 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:36.200 No? 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:38.640 Maybe a movie? 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:43.400 Wow? Well, you can't plan my bachelorette party. Whenever I 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:44.440 settle down. 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.200 I'm like, hey, I got that Netflix account, let's watch 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:48.680 a movie for Marie's birthday. 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:49.320 No. 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:50.240 Well, you know what. 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.440 I couldn't trust my sister to playing my bachelorette either, 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:54.560 because she'd be like, we're gonna go to the gym 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:59.080 and we're gonna do dlts and then you're gonna get married, 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:05.120 your meal, prep for the wedding, and then that's it. Anyway. 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:06.520 So that's what I was an expert in this week 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.840 I was an expert at being a good friend in 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:14.560 another state, watching people drink brown liquor just brown juice. Sid, 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:15.960 what were you an expert at? 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:17.320 What was that expert in? 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:22.000 Honestly, I'm tapped out of expertises because I'm just going 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:23.320 through too much, Like. 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:26.560 That whole DC trip, that back to back Miami DC. 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.279 My account is like, where are you going and what 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:31.480 are you doing with yourself? 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:32.400 Yeah? We did. 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.320 We did just get back from Miami and I was 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.719 in Montreal right before that. I mean, I ain't spend 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:38.440 any money there, but like I was there. 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:41.840 I'm an expert in not spending my money wisely at all. 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:45.560 We were using so many ubers like Uber hit me up, like, Sis, 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.800 you can't take the bus, SI. 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.160 Here's a metric card. We enclosed it in this envelope. 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:56.880 Please use this sis, you know. 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:58.919 And we were with the girls that we were partying 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.440 with this weekend. They just kept saying the word cis 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.880 over again, like Sis, you good cis. So we just 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.520 were adapting it for this podcast. You know what? 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:09.960 Wait, hold on, I feel like what was I an 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.320 expert in? I was an expert in taking photos with 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:15.359 your black ass. Oh yes, you were very good at 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.440 that because you came with your abs ready and I said, 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:20.360 our abs are looking outstanding. 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:21.320 Someone was like, I don't. 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:21.839 See your abs. 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:26.920 Cis said, where are yours? Did you leave them back 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:27.640 in New York? 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:31.600 Yeah, it was on that megabus, the mega bus going 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:31.920 back to. 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:33.760 Did you leave your abs at the Chick fil A 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:34.480 rest stop? 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:36.880 Listen, I'm always here for if my friend is shining, 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:40.000 I'm shining too, So I just do I play my part. 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.960 I do my one move, I do that one faith 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:43.839 and I'm like, I'm. 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:45.159 Here, I've arrived. 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.440 We got like three hundred and fifty likes on Facebook, like. 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.479 That's some light, you know, some little that's all. 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.039 That one picture we had back from from Miami was 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:56.599 like six hundred likes. 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:58.640 I said, damn, yeah, Well. 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:00.919 You know what it is is people don't really my 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:04.920 body in New York, so they think that I in fact, 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:06.719 I actually don't know what people think about my body. 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.159 But I also don't care. I know that when I 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.880 need to bring it out, it's always on time. 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:14.679 Yes it is okay, And then like Sidney, we already 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.280 see yoho ass all the time be but ass naked. 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:17.760 We don't care. 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:19.640 They're like, Sinna, you missed a spot on your ass cheek. 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:21.599 I stay with an ass. 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:23.120 She throw some cream on that. 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:29.000 I had my kid my kitten wedges eat Yo, Sidney. 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:30.400 Okay, you know what I feel like, that's the perfect 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:32.719 place to bring this guest in because a kitten wedge 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:36.160 is something that this person I believe would never wear. Okay, 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.760 but we'll ask her when we introduce her our guest, Sidney, 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:40.600 do you want to introduce her? 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:42.680 Yes, she's a great friend of ours. 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.880 She's been on our Walmart show many of times, actually 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:46.880 the first show we actually did. 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:50.240 She's a stand up comedian. Yes, she does voiceover work. 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:54.640 She has frequent file flyer miles right, she don't take 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:57.240 the megabus. Yeah, she's stay on a plane. She was 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:01.200 a host Advice News, give it up for Michelle Just 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:03.600 she's our model expert. 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:07.240 Timshell, Hello, ladies, thanks for the intro. 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.440 But I've never been a host of vers News. 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.880 Vice But yeah, yeah, yeah, just see. I knew it 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.000 wasn't but like I didn't want to. I didn't want 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:16.320 to step on my partner's toes. 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:17.080 But no, that's okay. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.720 That's why you're here to correct my black ass. I'm 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:20.080 fine with that. 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:22.560 Michelle, how are you doing? First of all, let's talk 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:26.040 about what Michelle looks like. She has on a head wrap. 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:31.720 But it's like very very experts expertly rapped if I 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:32.040 try to. 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:33.800 Do that about the head wrap. 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.080 So it's all about the fabric really, because I'm always 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:37.840 getting asked like, oh, how did you do a head wrap? 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:41.160 And it is this is no, there's nothing expertise about 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:42.200 this other. 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:42.800 Than the fabric. 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.160 It's kind of fair is that it's just some cotton. 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.080 But it's just like you know, it's just like the 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.560 right kind of start. She's stiff so. 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:52.680 And linen vibes and then it will stay in. How 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:56.240 much you pay for that, Michelle? Does it? 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:57.880 Cindy, you were wrapping your hair for a while. What 0:07:57.880 --> 0:07:58.320 happened with that? 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:01.600 You have to real regal you know how much that 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:02.160 rap was? 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.160 That rap was thirty five dollars thirty five So it's 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:06.000 not an everyday rap. 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:07.360 It's like special occasion. 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:08.440 It's just for a wedding. 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:09.480 Yeah, I don't want to get us. 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:11.080 I don't want to sweat it out with my like, 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:13.679 uh train sweat thirty. 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.440 I mean you could probably like whatsh it and stuff. 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:20.240 Yeah, I don't want to wear it out. Thank you, Michelle. 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:21.640 You got a butterfly wing. 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.000 Listen, if you wash it then it fades and I 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:26.559 hate a faded ass wrap. 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:27.160 I hate that. 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.360 I like the color to be deep. Do you hate 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:32.640 it more than clean? Do you you rather be? 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:37.640 You rather be vibrantly dirty? Michelle? I don't know if 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:40.640 you a gift or you are hosting with Marie's. 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:44.400 Well, see, Michelle is also a comic, so she's she's here. 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:45.440 You know she's here. 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:48.040 She's a black woman. She's gonna come, She's gonna come. 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:49.000 Correct, Yeah, you're. 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:49.480 Right, Michelle. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:53.240 Also, Michelle's eyebrows are on points. Do you draw those in? 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:54.560 Is that natural? 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.079 Goddamn obsessed with my eyebrows. 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.440 I won't wear like no makeup or no none that 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:04.080 I'm I will spend five minutes just feeling them. 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.440 In perfectly, so you only feel in your eyebrows. 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:10.240 Yeah, that's it and leave the rest. 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.680 I got this massive you know, look at this forehead 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:18.199 just like head is great, it's very modelish, like bouncing before. 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.120 It has given me like model realness for. 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:22.480 Man, So I feel like, I need a brow in 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.319 between the otherwise I would look. 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.959 Like some sort of you know, so wait, well your 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:28.080 face is there standing there. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.120 All you have to worry about is your brows. You know, 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:31.200 have the privilege of that. 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:32.319 That's crazy. 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:33.559 Listen to you. 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.120 I have a contour and that's some ore on this. 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:40.720 She's like, but look at your face. 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.760 I've just been sitting here watching you girls and cook, 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.120 trying not to be a pervert, but basically I was 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:47.720 just like, what a great sight. 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:55.920 For me, these bums. Look at those bum bum. 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:56.440 Well that's why. 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:58.480 That's how I first met you, Michelle. I was trying 0:09:58.480 --> 0:09:59.839 to pick you up and don't open my head. 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.120 Well, I'm so bored of you saying this, Like, do 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.200 you know how insulting it is? Said you bought a 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:06.679 burger for yourself and shared. 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:08.440 It with me. I bought you drinks And she's like, 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:09.640 and then you didn't want to hit this. 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:11.719 I'm like, yeah, yeah, but. 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:13.199 You see, and you shared it with me. 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.680 That's still like my wines and I died and you 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:16.320 I did. 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:19.200 That's how lesbians wanted to die? 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:23.000 Did you for seven whole minutes and you still didn't 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:23.960 want to come home with me? 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:25.880 I'm like, you bought a burger and I went homes 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:27.439 with you and you're still salty about it? 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:29.560 Would you would you have gone home with Sydney? 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:31.800 No? I love her, I really like her. 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:35.760 She like you as a friend, girl, I'm a buddy. 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:37.080 Hold On, hold on. 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.480 Can you imagine the drama that would be happening in 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.280 the comedy world if first girls were sleeping with each other. 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.120 Well, people already think that me and Sydney are sleeping together. 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:46.760 They think that I'm her girlfriend. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:53.120 Only on an area. That's why yesterday, that's what they said. 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:54.880 They were like, well, Maria and Sidney are sleeping and 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.200 sleeping in the bed together, and Marie was like as friends, 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:00.000 as friends, like Maria, they said, Maria and saying you're 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:00.559 sleeping together. 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:05.800 I was like, only as friends and it was like wow, wow. 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.200 I said, you couldn't let them, you know, dream and 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:09.760 have fantasies. 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.520 And I'm not here to help you fantasize. I'm here 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:14.400 to make you cry a little bit. So Michelle, you're 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:16.760 obviously English, let's talk about that. 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.200 Yeah, what do you want to know about it? I'm 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:20.920 from London from do you love? 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.079 Do you feel like people in London are like better 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:23.840 than people here. 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.720 Yes, are you serious about that? Look at my face? 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:28.600 Look at them. 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:29.800 Don't even argue. 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.959 I mean no, it's it's exactly the same, to be honest. 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:34.120 I've been living there. 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:35.400 For a long time. So I'm not like one of 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:36.640 those British people that are. 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:40.319 Like Americans kind of stupid, which is a lot of 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:41.560 people say behind your back. 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:43.480 They say that to our faces too, But I'm not 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:44.120 worried about it. 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:46.000 But I'm not one of those people. I love this country. 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:48.320 I just got my green cards, so celebration to me. 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:50.400 Give it a America. 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:51.520 What's the green card process? 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:53.120 Like they give you like a test of like like 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:54.200 the presidents and stuff. 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:58.640 Is well there, that's a citizenship thing. It's a pretty 0:11:58.640 --> 0:11:59.680 brutal process. 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.720 And I would have like my process took ages because 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:03.360 I got trumped. 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:07.079 Man. I got yeah, my first world privilege. 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.360 I was just like watching everyone's you know, I was 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:10.600 watching the news and thinking, God. 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.920 Isn't this going to be terrible for everyone? Their visas 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.240 are going to take ages. Now It's like I didn't 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:16.559 realize that you as well? 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.400 Me me too, me too, so yeah, so yeah, it 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:22.560 was I thought that was just with the Muzzlim band. 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:23.240 But it's everything. 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:26.839 Well, can you imagine how many people have like applied 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.320 to get green cards once they realized that it was 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:31.440 going to be a little bit tricky. So people like me, 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.480 you'd been there for years on visas, you know, all 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.800 of a sudden go oh, we should probably get a 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:37.439 green card. 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:38.839 Now, you know what I mean? 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:43.120 Like that's probably the time. But anyway, I love the 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.000 United States. I love I love where I'm from as 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:46.640 well in my London and I lived in New York 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:49.120 for years and people doways in New Yorker now and 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.400 I think that's such firsty behavior in it. 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:53.600 I'm from a good city. It's fine. I'll just be 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:55.120 a Londoner who lives in New York. 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:57.439 She doesn't want to be a parent, so you don't 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:59.960 sound like a New York Yeah, it's super polate. When 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:03.720 you are rude to people are thanks, you throw shade 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.400 and it's like, wow, Queen, there's been things that I'm 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:11.040 actually today. 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:10.960 Michelle. 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:13.400 Did you start modeling in the UK or in the 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:14.000 United States? 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:17.720 Yeah, I start I started modeling in England, but I 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.200 was still bartending. I didn't make any money in the UK. 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.319 Basically I was like, I was modeling, but I wasn't, 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:24.760 you know, I was just doing like a lot of 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:28.240 free sort of magazine stuff, like a lot of editorials 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:30.880 in the In modeling, you don't get paid for a 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:32.680 lot of people don't know that. So you go to 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.920 somewhere like England or You'rerope, you know, Milan or Paris. 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.480 You're trying to get some good pictures there because somewhere 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:40.440 like New York is a money city and they don't 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:44.080 really care about you know, like it's not all about 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:47.880 the sort of artistic creative process and it's more about advertising. 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:48.760 So you go. 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.480 So, yeah, I started there. I was doing that, but 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:53.160 I was bartending as well. 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.000 How much was your first check, first medal check, my 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:56.640 first model? 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.240 Oh please let me break down the modeling. So my 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:02.400 first check was actually twelve thousand dollars. 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.920 But what what what? 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:09.800 But it is okay, the modeling industry is like a pyramid. 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:13.000 There's only really a few girls that could genuinely actually 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:14.280 live off modeling. 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.400 And the reason why is because my. 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.680 Foot, you incur so much debt before you make any money. 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:23.680 So things like your portfolio and pictures and sending your 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.000 stuff out Even now, you know, we've got the Internet 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.760 and used as a model, you still get charged every 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:33.120 time an agent posts your picture to a client with 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.160 possible potential work. 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:39.640 Wait, you have what you you're self. 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:42.120 Employed as a model, right, You're self employed and this 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.600 agency represent you, and that means that the girl incurs 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.600 every expense under the sun. Now, the reason why I 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.120 wanted to get a Green Cartier is because I'd modeled 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:54.880 all these years in America, and fifty percent of all 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.880 my earnings is taken by the agency people. I don't 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:02.760 fifty percent if you're if you're foreign, So that means 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.960 that's like thirty percent taxes, twenty percent agency commission, that's 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.040 off the So that's fifty percent off the bat. And 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.160 then you've got all the expenses. So let's say you 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:13.840 do a job for ten thousand dollars. Huh, Right, but 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.400 you've been modeling maybe four months before that, living in 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.240 New York. You haven't got any money. You're like seventeen 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.920 or whatever. An average model starts at like fifteen sixteen. 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:22.280 Yeah. 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.520 Yeah, so you're a kid and you're just living out here. 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.800 You're not realizing your your expenses are becoming massive. By 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.160 the time you get that let's say a ten grand check, 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:32.800 it's probably like what it's going to be five and 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.880 then take out your expenses, you're probably gonna have about 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:40.320 one hundred and twenty dollars. I'm not joking, man, industry 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:41.440 is a bump. 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:41.840 And I love it. 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:45.800 Now. When people are like, here's your agency Instagram, I'm like, yeah, bitch, 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:46.400 I hope it is. 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:47.600 You're probably making a. 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:51.640 Lot more money than an average model, Like am Burrows 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.800 makes a lot more money than Carly klos Well. 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.840 Amber Row's because she has like ambassadors, she has brands. 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:01.440