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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody. Welcome to move the sticks, DJ and

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Speaker 2: Lance with you today. Bucky is at the HBCU Combine,

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Speaker 2: so he will be back next week as we get

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Speaker 2: towards the combine in Indianapolis. Lance, how you doing, buddy,

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing well, looking forward to the combine.

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Speaker 2: I feel like doesn't matter when we do shows together,

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Speaker 2: but I feel like I'm always accompanied by my little

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Speaker 2: like a three man team. Here, Me and my coffee

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Speaker 1: You're now tweeting pictures out of your coffee. When did

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Speaker 1: you have a coffee drinker? I became a coffee drinker

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Speaker 2: I turned to coffee maybe a decade ago. I turned

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Speaker 2: For goodness, gracious man, it's ridiculous. Uh So, anyways, I'm

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Speaker 2: let's let's jump in. We've got a lot of ground

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Speaker 2: we're going to cover to day. We've got a mock

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Speaker 2: gonna whip through that and see if you have any questions, comments, concerns,

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Speaker 2: and then we're going to continue our our building block series.

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Speaker 2: That was it was a big hit something that I'm

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Speaker 2: of all, lance with this mock draft, I'm gonna rip

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Speaker 3: You ready, Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 2: I've got Caleb Williams, haven't changed there, going to the

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Speaker 2: In this scenario, I said, hey, let's give him a

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Speaker 2: no trades, so they take Joe Alt. That decision would

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Speaker 2: I had them taking an offensive lineman for Jim Harbaugh's

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Speaker 3: A couple of things to stand out to me.

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Speaker 1: Number one, Joe Alt, has there ever been a better

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Speaker 3: The Notre Dame model.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's not going to replace Slater at left. Slater's

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Speaker 2: seen all of Caleb Williams tape. I'm done. I've already

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Speaker 1: Last question I'd have for you on ten or last comment,

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Speaker 2: We nitpick guys as they come back. Last year, I

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Speaker 2: This year, I don't think he played quite as well.

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Speaker 2: YEP, eleven Minnesota. These are eleven and twelve are quarterback teams,

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Speaker 2: not worked out the Colts. This is a special for you, Lance.

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Speaker 2: What do you know a trades corner in Nate Wiggins

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Speaker 2: Byron Murphy to Theahawks. They have Leonard Williams a free agent.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's super likely that that happens, but man,

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Speaker 2: and then the Steelers go Troy foul Tanu. I got

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Speaker 2: to get that right before the combine Washington tackle slash guard.

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Speaker 2: It can play pretty much anywhere for the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna circle back, so I think the floor of

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Speaker 3: That means a good starter.

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Speaker 2: You're not looking to replace, just a steady, steady, good

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Speaker 3: I've got Drake May as a sixty five.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you tell people what sixty fives are at

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes you would much rather have a sixty four.

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Speaker 3: I like Brock Bowers of the Bengals. I love it.

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Speaker 2: kind of tricky to explain. No, but that's teams are

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Speaker 1: Is is getting It's like in baseball where you have

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 2: Let's go finish it up.

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Speaker 2: We'll just possible it's still it's uh, I'm not rolling

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Speaker 1: jump well, and he's got when you when you look

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Speaker 1: at the athletic profile combined with the production this year,

434
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,359
Speaker 1: combined with the tray though, these are the kind of

435
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 1: guys to shoot into the first round, like Darius Robinson

436
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 1: you put there. I put him in my first min

437
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,880
Speaker 1: because I'm like, this feels like a guy who's gonna

438
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 1: go first round because the trades. I'd say, Adi Mitchell

439
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 1: is a guy who probably needs to start popping up

440
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 1: in more mock drafts in the first round.

441
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting, you're always you're trying to study

442
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,920
Speaker 2: these players and you're trying to learn as much about them.

443
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,920
Speaker 2: I haven't even talked to him. I have not talked

444
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,919
Speaker 2: to his coaches about him, but I know. I know

445
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 2: one thing. I know his favorite drink. What is it

446
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 2: a kool Aid? Kool Aid?

447
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 3: It's kool Aid? Well, where where would you have gotten

448
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 3: that from? Dj?

449
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,120
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, you watch the Alabama tape.

450
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 3: He consumed a lot of kool Aid that game.

451
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,920
Speaker 2: He did, he had his fill. He got a little full,

452
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 2: a little ting d.

453
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 1: It's always good with and look listen, I thought there

454
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 1: were some games where ad kind of just coasted against Alabama.

455
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Speaker 3: You got prime.

456
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 2: That was the first tape I popped on, and I

457
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 2: was like, holy.

458
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 3: Either a d Mitchell man he was on it.

459
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 2: Either this ad Mitchell was really really good or this

460
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,199
Speaker 2: kool Aid McKinstry is way overrated. But that was like

461
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,639
Speaker 2: my first, my first exposure, that first tape that I

462
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,160
Speaker 2: came out of it saying, Okay, I'm not okay, maybe

463
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 2: kool Aid mcentsry is not what he was made out

464
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 2: to be. But this ad Mitch was pretty good. But

465
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,360
Speaker 2: that was the first one that I popped on.

466
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Speaker 1: I think something that that scouts will tell you and

467
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 1: that you know you know this too. They talk about

468
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 1: grade the flashes because sometimes you got to figure out

469
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Speaker 1: when the flash becomes reality.

470
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Speaker 3: You know, I'll never forget it was just the rookie

471
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Speaker 3: of the offensive rookie of the year, c J. Stroud.

472
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Speaker 3: His regular season game tape was it was solid.

473
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Speaker 1: Nowhere near bright young, I thought in terms of consistency,

474
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 1: but it was solid.

475
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Speaker 3: It was good.

476
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Speaker 1: I still gave him a you know, I thought it

477
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 1: was more of a sixty four. But that Georgia game

478
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 1: was so exceptional and it was against the best competition.

479
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,959
Speaker 1: The last game he ever played. He was moving around

480
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: the pocket and getting outside of the pocket. He showed

481
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Speaker 1: no issues with poise. He was so good that you

482
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Speaker 1: have to say, Man, if the Texans or if somebody

483
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Speaker 1: gets this version of c J. Stroud, look out and

484
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Speaker 1: guess what. That's who he was this So if the

485
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Speaker 1: Alabama version of Ady Mitchell is what we're going to

486
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Speaker 1: see in the pros, I mean, he's a top fourteen pick, honestly,

487
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Speaker 1: you know, from a value standpoint of what he could become.

488
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Speaker 2: Can I give you one. I'll get on my high

489
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 2: horse here for just one second. Then we'll take a break.

490
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I feel like and I love the fact

491
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Speaker 2: that we have so many people that are invested and

492
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Speaker 2: involved in the draft process. It's great for all of

493
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 2: us I love that so many people have access to

494
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Speaker 2: video and people post things and have opinions. I would

495
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Speaker 2: not discourage that. I didn't encourage it. I hope more

496
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Speaker 2: people continue to do that. I would just say there's

497
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 2: one there's one like major tenet of scouting that you

498
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 2: learn and when you're in the building with teams, and

499
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 2: I was fortunate enough to be around some people that

500
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 2: were really, really sharp. It's that you get paid to

501
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 2: scout to find what these guys can do. Anybody can

502
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 2: sit there and tell you the ninety five things they

503
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 2: can't do and posting videos of he can't do this,

504
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 2: he can't do that, Like what can he do? Okay,

505
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 2: there's no perfect player, there's no such thing. So tell

506
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: me the things this guy can do, and then figure

507
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 2: out how that work, you know, how teams can feature

508
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 2: that and get that out of him and what he

509
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 2: can be. That's why I always want to watch. I

510
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 2: want to look at the boxer. I want to watch

511
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 2: your best game. I want to see your absolute best,

512
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: and then I want to see you know, I want

513
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 2: to see the point of attack stuff, to see all

514
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 2: all the good stuff that you do. I can go

515
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: back through and find and find the flaws and you

516
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 2: obviously you point those out. But more than anything else,

517
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 2: I think that it gets lost and people you go

518
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: through a discussion on a player, I'm like, I just

519
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 2: listened to that whole thing. You didn't tell me what

520
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 2: can this guy do? Nothing like everybody can do something like,

521
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 2: please tell me that, you know, just tell me what

522
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: this guy can do? Guys me a little bit crazy.

523
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Speaker 1: As a story that I heard from a good friend

524
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Speaker 1: who was as general manager when he was a regional scout,

525
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: he said he got done reading the report on a player.

526
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: He's like, man, we're just a machine gun in these

527
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: guys today.

528
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Speaker 3: He goes, well, tell me what he can do? What

529
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Speaker 3: is do best?

530
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 1: And a guy thought and he goes, well he does

531
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: this and this, and like, well do you think he

532
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: can He said, okay, you killed him for this. Do

533
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: you think that with more coaching he can do that?

534
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: And the guy said yeah, I mean yeah, I guess

535
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: that can be coached. Up he goes okay. So and

536
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: then the guy the GM started focusing on what he

537
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: could do and he goes, so we run this kind

538
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: of defense, we do this, this is a dB And

539
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,239
Speaker 1: he said, so what you're telling me is that this

540
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: guy's he good on special teams.

541
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's a gunner. He's like okay.

542
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: So basically, what I'm hearing is a guy that we

543
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: need to be looking at the fifth or sixth round,

544
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: who could end up being a backup for us, who

545
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: could play core special teams for us. And this guy

546
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: who told me this said, this is a great learning

547
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: opportunity for me because I realized, I gotta go find

548
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: what they can do, because, as his general manager said,

549
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: these guys are going to end up playing a lot

550
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: of these guys you kill are going to end up playing.

551
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: They'll play, some of them will play better than you

552
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: think they are, and some of them will just be depth.

553
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 3: So don't focus on what they can't do.

554
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Speaker 1: And my dad always told me late round guys, undrafted

555
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 1: free agents, find something that is a big plus for them,

556
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: whether it's strength, and he's talking about offensive line. Do

557
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: they have great feet, do they have strength, are they

558
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: really smart? Go find one plus plus trait that they

559
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: have and then we'll try to work around That's.

560
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 2: As one as one of my coaching buddies likes to

561
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: point out that we are of the same age, all

562
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: of the same age, So you appreciate this. He said,

563
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 2: we have to remind a lot of times. You got

564
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: to remind scouts in the room about the sewing principle.

565
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 2: And I said, what are you talking about? And he's like,

566
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 2: you know, the three amigos, what's the one thing you

567
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: can do? We can sew.

568
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 3: You can always do something. Every player can do something.

569
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the one thing they can do? All right,

570
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll jump

571
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 2: into the building blocks for the AFC North with my

572
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: buddy Lance right after this. All right, Lance, let's jump

573
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 2: into this thing here. I am going to start with

574
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Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens and for those that don't know, here's

575
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: what we do. We'll give you a snapshot of their

576
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: free agents, cap space, all that kind of good stuff.

577
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 2: We'll talk about some of their building blocks, and then

578
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: we're going to do the best part of this exercise,

579
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: which is the championship foundation for these teams. And let

580
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: me explain that I put this in a tweet probably

581
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 2: six or seven years ago, and it's kind of created

582
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 2: a life of its own. But I was saying, man,

583
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 2: if you could condense these teams down, like to just say,

584
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: what do you need for a core championship foundation, and

585
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: obviously you build from that. From that core, what came

586
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 2: away with was the quarterback, three offensive playmakers. You need

587
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 2: three quality offensive alignment. You need two pass rushers, they

588
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 2: could be inside, outside, both, or you know wherever you

589
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: want to put them. And then three defensive playmakers at

590
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 2: the linebacker at secondary level of the defense. So that's

591
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: just kind of like that core group that you're looking for,

592
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: and then you can grade them out and we have

593
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 2: through that, Jack and our buddies with NFL research, they've

594
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 2: put this thing together other for us. So they've looked

595
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: at it from blue color being a blue chip player,

596
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 2: Green being a really good player, good starter, Yellow has

597
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: some type of concern, whether it's age, injury, contract, Pink

598
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: is an unproven young player. These might be a great player,

599
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: a really good young player, but still hasn't done enough

600
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 2: yet proving wise that they're still on the climb on

601
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: the ascent. So let's start with the Baltimore Ravens lance.

602
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: First of all, they are picking thirty in the first round.

603
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: Then they have their own picks in the second and

604
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 2: the third. No extras there projected cap space. They are

605
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: going to have five point one million in cap space.

606
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 2: Notable free agents. There's a couple here. Kevin Zeitler the guard,

607
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: Gus Edwards is the running back. Odell Beckham junior. Matta

608
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 2: bk is the big one, the d tackle. We'll see

609
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 2: if he gets tagged. Clowney Vanoy linebacker, Patrick Queen coming

610
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: off a great year, Geno Stone coming off a really

611
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: good year. The safety. So when we go through and

612
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 2: look at that lance, let's just jump to the to

613
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 2: the building blocks. You've got Lamar Jackson's twenty seven, Kyle

614
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 2: Hamilton's twenty three, ro Kwan Smith is twenty seven, Lenderbaum

615
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 2: the center's twenty four, Jay Flowers twenty three, o'dafe Oways

616
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: twenty five, Keith Mitchell the young running back who played

617
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: well as Ricky last year. He's twenty two. Isaiah Likely

618
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: is twenty four. So all those guys are under contract

619
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 2: through at least the twenty sixth season. So that's that

620
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 2: group there, and then when we get to the championship foundation,

621
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Speaker 2: this is how research has it here. They've got the quarterback, obviously,

622
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: Amar Jackson's a blue. Offensive playmakers. You've got Mark Andrews

623
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: a blue. Jay Flowers is a green might be hitded

624
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: towards a blue. And then the next spot you have

625
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: a combination of Keaton Mitchell or Isaiah Likely they're both pinks.

626
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: You know they're still young, unproven players. You've got Linderbaum

627
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: as a blue for the quality offensive line spots. Ronnie

628
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: Stanley's a Green, Morgan Moses is a yellow, a little

629
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: bit older pass rushers. You've got a blue with Mattabk.

630
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: You've got to pink with o way. We're projecting that

631
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: Matta b K will be back on the franchise tag

632
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: by the way. And the back end, it's really good

633
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: with Kyle Hamilton or rokwand Smiths as blues, and you

634
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: have Marlon Humphrey and Marcus Williams as green's. You would

635
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: have Patrick Queen as a blue there as well, but

636
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: obviously he is a free agent.

637
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Speaker 1: Well, they're in phenomenal shape with the blue chippers. That's

638
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: rare to have six true blue Chippers, and I agree

639
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: with the designations of each of those guys. And then

640
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey, Ronnie Stanley's a flowers. You're gonna probably tag

641
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: mattab week a. I mean, there's a reason they're in

642
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: such great shape from a projected cap space standpoint. If

643
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: you look at the free agents, you know, losing Stone

644
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: and Patrick Queen would hurt. I think they'll keep madawleek,

645
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: but this is not They're for notable free agents or

646
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: quality players. But it's nothing that's going to kill you.

647
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: And you have all three picks in the first three rounds,

648
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: so you've got your core, You'll have your drafted players.

649
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: You'll see if anyone can make their way in. Baltimore

650
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: is in really good shape. Even though they don't have

651
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: a lot of cap space, they're still in pretty good shape.

652
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 3: They're still in really good shape.

653
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: By yeah, I think the offensive line is probably where

654
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: they look to reinforce there, with Ronnie Stanley having some injuries,

655
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 2: Morgan Moses getting a little older, it seems to me

656
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: that would be the target there. As we finished them up,

657
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: their last five first round picks, Zay Flowers great pick,

658
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: Cayle Hamilton great pick, Linderbaum great pick, Bateman solid, and

659
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: then o Way solid.

660
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: I'd say those are three big hits and then.

661
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a couple okays. All right, let's move it

662
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: to the Cleveland Browns, coming off an eleven six year

663
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: again no first round pick, because of Deshaun Watson trade,

664
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: they are picking fifty four in the second round in

665
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: eighty five and the third. Cap wise, they are nineteen

666
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: million over, so nineteen point six over the projected cap.

667
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: Free agent wise, you got Zadarias Smith edge rush or

668
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: race Hurst at DT, Shelby Gerris a DT, Anthony Walker

669
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: the linebacker. They're building blocks again. These guys are all

670
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: under contract through at least twenty six. You've got Deshaun Watson,

671
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: who's twenty eight, Denzel Awards twenty seven, jok the linebacker's

672
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 2: twenty four. What a great young player. Delpit is twenty five.

673
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: The safety Dewan Jones, the rookie tackles twenty three. Jedrick

674
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: Wills is still only twenty five. The other tackle Jerome

675
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: Ford twenty four, Cedric Tillman's twenty four, receiver Martin Emerson

676
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 2: corners twenty three, Hickman's twenty two. The safety Greg Newsom

677
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: is twenty four. It's a lot of young players on

678
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: that defense when we go to let's go over to

679
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: their championship foundation here as I pull that up, interesting

680
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: group here, quarterback interesting Deshaun Watson is a yellow because

681
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: you've got the injuries there and the performance hasn't been great.

682
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: In Cleveland, two blues with playmakers with Amari Cooper and

683
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: in Djoku. Nick Schubb is of yellow. Those are the

684
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: sorry no, sorry, sorry sorry, you're right, you're right, I'm colorblind.

685
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,239
Speaker 2: Amari Cooper and Djoku are both greens. I could make

686
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: a case for those days blue. Yeah, I can make

687
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: a strong case for blue there. Nick Chubb is yellow

688
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: because of the injury. In terms of finding the three

689
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: quality offensive lineman, they've got Conklin and Botonios as yellows.

690
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: I'm assuming for Age Wyatt Teller is a green. Jedrick Wills,

691
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: Dewan Jones. You've got injuries. I would imagine there is

692
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: why they're yellows. Miles Garrett for the pass rushers obvious blue.

693
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: Uh Okuranquo is a yellow. And the defensive playmakers, they've

694
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: got Denzel Ward and a Wusu Kormoa as greens. I

695
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: could make a case for some blue there, and then

696
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: defensive playmaker the third spot. They've got Delpitter or Newsome

697
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: as pinks. So that's what you look like. They're only

698
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: one blue, but I think you could make a case

699
00:32:58,880 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: for a couple more on there.

700
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: I think the problem we have with this team is

701
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: that they're nineteen million. They're nineteen million over the cap,

702
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: and then you've got a quarterback and a running back

703
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: who should be Blues and watching and Chubb, but Watchington

704
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: hasn't played like it and doesn't have a great contract.

705
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 3: And then Chubb it's just, you know, the injuries.

706
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: He's a blue player who has to go into the

707
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: yellow pile because it's just, you know, you just are

708
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: not getting that same performance due to injury. And Jedrick

709
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: Wills has not progressed as much as I like. Now

710
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. I watched the Dwan Jones against

711
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: and I had questions about Dwan Jones coming out.

712
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: I think I had a third round grade on him.

713
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 3: I watched him against Nick Bosa.

714
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: If you haven't watched that DJ, you should really go

715
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: back and watch because it is he played great.

716
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: When he was on the field. Yet you'll be impressive it.

717
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: But and he learned as the season went on. He

718
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: started figuring out his length a little better. And I

719
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: was really as a guy who was very suspect about

720
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: his change the direction. I think he understands how to

721
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: play inside out, and I think Dwan Jones is going

722
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: to be a much like Orlando not Orlando Brown.

723
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: But his son, Orlando Brown Jr.

724
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, not Orlando Brown, Orlando Brown Jr. Obj as

725
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 3: I call him.

726
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: I think Orlando Brown Junior is a great example of

727
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: oh oh, the teeth gnashing at the combine and all that.

728
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: He's a long player who plays more like his tape

729
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: and he's been a solid player.

730
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 3: I think Dwan Jones is gonna end up being the same.

731
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: But man, I I'm nervous for the Browns because there's

732
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: not a lot of You don't have a first round pick.

733
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: You got a quarterback on a so far a bad

734
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: contract who hasn't performed the way you think he should,

735
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: and you you don't have a first I mean, this

736
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: is this is gonna be tough to write the ship

737
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: unless guys, some of the young guys start playing. I

738
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: think Cedric Tillman can take another step forward, but you

739
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: really need Jedrick Wills to step up, and then I

740
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: think you're only gonna be as good as is your

741
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: running back is healthy.

742
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: I think Unfortunately, Yeah, the good thing is they've got

743
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 2: a lot of good young players on that defense. There

744
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: and Jim Schwartz is a defensive courting. They're gonna be

745
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: good on that side of the ball for sure, and

746
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens with them on the offensive side

747
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: of the ball if they get some of these guys

748
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: back healthy. Their last four first round picks Greg Newsom,

749
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: Jedrick Wills, Baker Mayfield, Denzel Ward, so they haven't had

750
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: a ton of those because of trades. Let's get to

751
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Pittsburgh Steelers, they are projected thirteen point

752
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: nine million over the cap. They are picking twenty fifty

753
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 2: one and eighty four, so no extra picks there in

754
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: the first three rounds, finishing ten and seven last year.

755
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: Let's look at their building. Black players that are under

756
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 2: contract control. Here, you've got Minka Fitzpatrick's twenty seven, Alex

757
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: Highsmith's twenty seven, George Pickens is twenty three. Piket, we'll

758
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: see what he does next year is twenty six. Brodick

759
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: Jones twenty three, coming off a solid rookie year. Joey

760
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: Porter another rookie twenty four, kean O Benton that's a

761
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 2: good rookie class twenty three, Friar Morose twenty five, najiheris six,

762
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: Jalen Warren twenty five, James Daniels guards twenty six, Dan

763
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 2: Moore tackle a little uneven played there, he's twenty five.

764
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: Darnel Washington the rookie man again, good rookie class twenty

765
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 2: three her big another one is twenty two. When we

766
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: go to the championship. Foundation for these guys, Kenny Pickett

767
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: is a pink. He is an unproven young player. George

768
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: Pickens is a green, so a good solid player. You've

769
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: got Deontay Johnson, and then you've got the two running backs,

770
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: Najie Harris and Jalen Warren. They all I would argue that.

771
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: The combination of those two is almost.

772
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 2: Green, could be green, I would. I would agree with

773
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: that with Naji in with Jalen Warren, I think that's

774
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 2: fair that they have the research has him as yellows here.

775
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll love to have those updated. Broderick Jones the tackle,

776
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 2: he is a pink. You've got a green for Somalo,

777
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: he was a really solid player for them. Then you've

778
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: got some yellow there for Dan Moore and James Daniels.

779
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 2: On the defense to pass rushers, you get a blue

780
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 2: for TJ. Watt, a green for alex Heighsmith, a blue

781
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 2: for Minka Fitzpatrick, a pink for Joey Porter, and they

782
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: need another one. They didn't research, didn't even put in

783
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: a third one here and just says question mark here.

784
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 2: So finding another playmaker, either the linebacker or the secondary

785
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: would seem like an obvious direction that they could go

786
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: here in the draft.

787
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: Well, okay, you're over the cap, so be it from

788
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: a from a free agency standpoint.

789
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 3: For the Pittsburgh Steelers, it's not an issue for him.

790
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 3: Their issue.

791
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: And there Look, it's notably as we've heard time and

792
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: time again, this is the youngest. This is one of

793
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: the youngest teams in Pro football. The problem you have

794
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: here is that you don't have the quarterback figured out yet.

795
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: You need I think Broderick Jones is going to be

796
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: just five, but you still need an offensive tackle and

797
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: you need to find a wide receiver. I love what

798
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: Joey Porter Jr. Did last year. I think that's had

799
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: in the right direction. I think Broderick Jones has definitely

800
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: had in the right direction. When you really take this

801
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: all in, you know, wouldn't shock me DJF They I

802
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: think short of the quarterback which is going to be

803
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: a concern. They could really tighten up some of these

804
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: areas with this year's draft. So I actually think the

805
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: Steelers are still in pretty good shape relative to their

806
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 1: age and the rookie contracts are.

807
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 3: Going to be playing.

808
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: I think I figured it out here on the running

809
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: backs being yellows. They're both up in twenty five, depending

810
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: on whether or not they exercise Yeah, so that falls

811
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: in the contract. So you know, we're talking about building blocks,

812
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 2: guys who are going to be here in are under

813
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: control for the foreseeable future. So I would imagine with

814
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: both those and we'll see what they do with the

815
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 2: fifth year option with Najie Harris. But that is why

816
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: I assume that they are listed as such when we

817
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: look at what they've done in the draft. Broderick Jones

818
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: solid player last year, Kenny Pickett vertic verdict. The jury

819
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: is still out on that one. Naji Harris has been solid, then,

820
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: Devin Bush no longer on the team, Trel Edmonds no

821
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: longer on the team. They have not had rookies signed

822
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 2: second contracts there very often in like the last ten

823
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 2: fifteen years, Like they haven't been a ton of them.

824
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: First round picks that have resigned, So that's something they've

825
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: got to they've got to get better at in terms

826
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 2: of hitting on their first round picks. All right, let's

827
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: get to the Cincinnati Bengals. The Bengals comparing them to

828
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 2: the other teams this division pretty interesting. They were picking

829
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 2: eighteen forty nine and eighty projected caps base fifty nine

830
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: point four million dollars to spend here for the Cincinnati Bengals,

831
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: But a big chunk of that's gonna get eaten up

832
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: by T Higgins on the tag more than likely. Tyler

833
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: Boyd's a free agent. Joanah Williams is a free agent.

834
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: DJ Reader is a free agent. In Chadobia Wuzier also

835
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 2: a free agent. Building block wise, age wise, Joe Burrows

836
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 2: twenty seven, Jamar Chase is twenty four, Cambritz twenty four,

837
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 2: Daxton Hill young safety is twenty three, DJ Turner's twenty three,

838
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: young corner Jordan Battles twenty three, Miles Murphy's twenty two.

839
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: The kicker Evan McPherson makes the list. He is twenty five.

840
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: When we go to the building blocks here the Championship Foundation,

841
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: we get Joe Burrows a blue, Jamar Chase is of blue.

842
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: T Higgins is a yellow on here because of the contract.

843
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: I would imagine the projected tag. You've got Joe Mixon

844
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: as a yellow. You've got all offensive lineman. You've got

845
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: three greens, Orlando Brown Junior, Alex Kappa, and Ted Carris

846
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 2: is great.

847
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 3: Krris is a green. Wow, I mean what a just

848
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 3: kind of a guy.

849
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: But this is what when you that's a great example

850
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: of these guys play.

851
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: Tell me what, Mark Martin, what can they do? And

852
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 3: Ted Carris is a great example of that.

853
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson's a blue. They've got Hubbard and Hill as greens,

854
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 2: Logan Wilson and Jermaine Pratt that combos greens as well.

855
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: Then you've got the defensive playmakers the last two spots.

856
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: They've got just a bunch of names in here with

857
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: Cam Taylor, Britt, DJ Turner.

858
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 3: Dax Hill, all.

859
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: Young guys, all all pink, just kind of young, unproved players.

860
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: Higgins a year blue for you.

861
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: If he were to me, I think he's a I

862
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: think if he signs a multi year deal and it's

863
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: under control there, I think you're talking about a blue player.

864
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 2: I think he's a blue receiver.

865
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: Two blue receivers a potential and your mock draft to

866
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: get your hands on a tremendous run after catch tight

867
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Speaker 1: end and Rock Bowers and then Joe Burrow.

868
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: I mean, the thing is that offensive line doesn't need blues.

869
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: They if you can just build your offensive line with

870
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 2: some just all green across there, just all solid, good players.

871
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: You don't need any you know, Hall of Fame guys.

872
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: And they're just steady, solid group that that that collection

873
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: of talent on the outside. Burrow get the ball out

874
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 2: of there. So here's the question for DJ.

875
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: DJ Readers had some injury issues over the last two

876
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: or three years, but he's really impact he plays.

877
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 3: You're gonna pay DJ Reader? Are you're gonna let them walk?

878
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: They got fifty nine million. It feels to me like

879
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 2: this is a sign your own, uh free agent year

880
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: here for the Cincinnati Bengals. But I think they can

881
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: accomplish a lot by signing their own guys. Look at

882
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 2: their last five first round picks, Lance H Miles, Murphy,

883
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: Daxton Hill, Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow, Jonah Williams. Amazing how

884
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 2: twenty twenty and twenty one shape their franchise. Joe Burrow

885
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: and Jamar Chase. That was that literally was their foundation

886
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: to already get to a Super Bowl.

887
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I tell you what it was.

888
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: Well, that's what happened is it's usually not building outside

889
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: like the Falcons have tried to build out right, And

890
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: usually you want to build the trenches and build your

891
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: way out and not build your way back inside. But

892
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: because Joe Burrow is so great at getting getting rid

893
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: of the football in general, it's worked out for them

894
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: to an extent. But we also have two years where

895
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow had season any injuries out.

896
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: Of no question which which, by the way, I gave

897
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: NFL research some crap on this one, because technically Burrow

898
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: should probably be a yellow yellow coming off the entry.

899
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: He's so you know, they know they're gonna we're gonna

900
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: tweet this out, and they didn't.

901
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 3: Well, but Joe Burrow gets gets a blue.

902
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 2: They did not want to smoke. They did not want

903
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: the Twitter smoke on that one. So they Yeah, they

904
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: kept doing a mock.

905
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Speaker 1: Draft with with your blues and your yellows and your greens.

906
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's hilarious. All right, this has been a

907
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: fun one. I want to encourage everybody check out the

908
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: next episode. We've got coming your way this week, which

909
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: is gonna be my conference call on Thursday. We will

910
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: package a portion of that because it's a long one

911
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 2: and uh, and that'll be something you can listen to

912
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: where we have over one hundred media members on there

913
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: firing questions away. So a lot of draft talk on

914
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: that one, and uh, Lance and Bucky will kind of

915
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: pick it up next week from from the combine and

916
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 2: we'll have updates all throughout the week at the NFL

917
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 2: Scouting Combine.

918
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: Oh forget, this is an NFL Plus. You and I

919
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: are breaking down the combine. Uh oh yeah, Combine's gonna

920
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: look like position by day by day.

921
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question. We've we already recorded those, so those

922
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: will be released on NFL Plus if you have the app,

923
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 2: check that out.

924
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 1: Spoiler, I hate doing this, but we do have some

925
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: day three offensive line talk going on too.

926
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 2: So oh yeah, yeah, we were preview and we're trying

927
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: to get you guys excited and Lance. Lance gave a

928
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: five in a dissertation on somebody and then close close

929
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: it out with I think this guy could go like

930
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 2: fifth sixth round. You know, we want people to watch

931
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 2: the combine. We would love for them to tune in.

932
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: This is not helping the cost here, but nonetheless check

933
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 2: out the videos. I think you'll enjoy that.

934
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Speaker 3: Trying to keep it for the last day. DJ. That's all.

935
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Speaker 2: There you go. I love it again in all sincerity.

936
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Speaker 2: Thanks again for popping on with me, man. It's always

937
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 2: great to chop it up. Lance does his work, does

938
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 2: his homework. Be sure to follow him and check him out.

939
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 2: All his stuff on NFL dot com and on social

940
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: media is outstanding. All right, that's it. That's it for today.

941
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Speaker 2: We'll see you next time right here on move the sticks.