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Speaker 1: the drive. I'm deal getting, Matt Williamson. It's Thursday, Steve

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Speaker 1: is getting ready for their final whole Um road tripping,

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Speaker 1: final final road trip of the season, final game of

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Speaker 1: the season. And I got a little bad news today

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Speaker 1: that Deonte Johnson goes on the COVID nineteen list. A

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Speaker 1: lot a lot to uncover on peel here with all

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Speaker 1: this and throw some things by you, but losing Deonte

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Speaker 1: Johnson for this game. The last time the Steelers played

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Speaker 1: the Ravens they beat beat him twenty to nineteen back

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Speaker 1: on December five. Deante Johnson had eight catches for a

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Speaker 1: hundred and five yards of two touchdowns. Yeah. I mean

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Speaker 1: he's a great player. We're the only two touchdowns and heads.

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Speaker 1: I think this is about as bad a loss, not

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Speaker 1: and the way that the game script I expected because

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure we'll get into it. But everyone's

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Speaker 1: just throwing on the Ravens. You know. The run defense

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Speaker 1: but that comes with a big asterisk. People aren't running

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Speaker 1: like thirty four percent of the time against right, you

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Speaker 1: just don't run on them like they I sent this

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Speaker 1: statute last night. They've allowed or teams have run against them. Um,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. Teams have run against the Steelers four hundred

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Speaker 1: Teams have run against the Ravens three eight times. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because you don't have to quarters as much, you know.

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Speaker 1: So here's there're here. Here are they're passing stats against

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Speaker 1: this year they give up four hundred nine yards in

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Speaker 1: the opener against uh, the Raiders. Then it was three

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Speaker 1: just can't throw the football. Uh. Then it was three

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Speaker 1: ninety against the Colts. And this is what they Marlin,

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Speaker 1: I'm free. Yeah, they had their best game that game

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Speaker 1: Bengals the next week. Say this is when it started

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Speaker 1: to six. Yeah, if you want to keep passing the

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Speaker 1: long without question. And I'm sure we've laid this out before,

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Speaker 1: But how the Ravens are structured is we're gonna invest

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Speaker 1: crazy in man coverage corners. We're gonna generate pressure through blitz.

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Speaker 1: Last year they were the blitz heaviest team in the league.

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Speaker 1: They were like fifty blitz this year. They lose Peters

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Speaker 1: really NFL player Anthony of Rhett who's they're best guy

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Speaker 1: So this Johnson new is to me, I think I've

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Speaker 1: even though they're not very good corners, I'm press band

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Speaker 1: what's the Johnson loss? You know, what's the ripple effect?

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Speaker 1: something else to distract them or whatever. The Ravens need

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Speaker 1: them to lose too, right, just because they you're putting

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Speaker 1: winning fourteen and nothings both teams. Both teams are like, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is fun, but to why bother? You know,

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Speaker 1: I mean the Ravens have lost three in a road

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Speaker 1: would that have been acceptable? I bet not? Probably not,

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Speaker 1: Probably not. There's too many generations ahead of you that

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Speaker 1: did it. And when you talk about culture, most I

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Speaker 1: mean a lot of teams would not have given it

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Speaker 1: a hundred and gone crazy in that game, I guess,

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Speaker 1: But I mean everyone's focus is on Garrett. If you

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Speaker 1: if you're too injured to play and it doesn't matter,

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Speaker 1: get off the field. But if you're just gonna kind

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Speaker 1: of pay patty cake and stand around, I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: not influencing the team big picture. At some point the

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Speaker 1: other team realizes, hey, we don't need to double this

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Speaker 1: guy at all. Damn Moore comes off the field after

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Speaker 1: the second series and goes, I got this, Yeah right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we don't have to double one. So it's j ok.

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Speaker 1: Look over at Garrett and be like, he's kind of

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Speaker 1: walking around. I guess it's okay around here to That's

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Speaker 1: the thing. That's the thing. Does that you know, the

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Speaker 1: Ravens and Steelers don't do that for our whole lifetime?

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean that's the culture. And when we

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Speaker 1: talk about culture, that's the kind of things that we mean.

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Speaker 1: Um t J one his third consecutive Team MVP award today.

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Speaker 1: It's an easy one. It is Cam. Cam has been

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Speaker 1: the glue that's kind of held us. He leads all

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Speaker 1: defensive linemen in the league in tackles. Again, this like

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Speaker 1: a second or third straight year that he's done that.

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Speaker 1: This was nine sacks and a lot of bad of

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Speaker 1: balls right, and a lot of double teams. And you

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Speaker 1: look at him, you look at Najia Harris's fourth in

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Speaker 1: the league and rushing um Deante Johnson has a hundred

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Speaker 1: catches and eleven hundred receiving yards and you know, make

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Speaker 1: it hasn't stunk either. They were yeah, and your quarterback

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Speaker 1: can always be that guy. And they could have they

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Speaker 1: could have given him to send off um. But it's

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Speaker 1: why doesn't plays make snaps? Is any of those guys right?

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Speaker 1: I mean he's missed some substantial time. You know we're

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Speaker 1: giving away major honors like that, but how do you

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Speaker 1: but there are eight five and one just when he

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Speaker 1: starts the game, just when he started there, oh and

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Speaker 1: two when he didn't play at all, and the games

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Speaker 1: that he left and did finish and did not work

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Speaker 1: him for defensive MVP. If he's not the Steelers MVP,

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Speaker 1: like someone in Cleveland or some hub arcist type guy

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Speaker 1: will be like, well, they didn't even make him their

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Speaker 1: their m v P. How can I vote for him? Well,

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Speaker 1: you gotta give it to him, and and he was

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Speaker 1: and he was the best one and a half sacks.

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, yeah, I mean he's affected every game

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Speaker 1: that he's played in remarkably, or to be my second choice.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just I just a lot of times when

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Speaker 1: I'm at games, I'll just focus on what when the

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Speaker 1: Steelers are on defense, to watch the gauntlet that he

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Speaker 1: has to run to get to the quarterback. It's not

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Speaker 1: just beat the right tackle. Oftentimes they'll have a wide

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Speaker 1: receiver chipping him first or tight end chipping him first,

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Speaker 1: and then it's the tackle, and then the backs behind

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Speaker 1: the tackle. He's he's occupying three guys. The other thing

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Speaker 1: they do, which isn't the glitch in the Steelers defense,

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Speaker 1: but you'll often see three yd to his side, and

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Speaker 1: in certain play calls he has to bump off the

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Speaker 1: line of GrimAge isn't coming or you know's not defending

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Speaker 1: the slot. But he's in the flats there, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean others don't do that. No, he's drawn. He

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Speaker 1: plays coverage a little bit more than I think a

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Speaker 1: lot more though than anybody else who's listed as an edge.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, then the miles, Yeah, you know, right right,

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Speaker 1: without question. That's why I don't necessarily like that edge

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Speaker 1: designation because they're they're still different. There are still different.

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Speaker 1: Defense in general has become hard to pigeonhole. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of different types of safeties out there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, a slot corner is not the same as

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Speaker 1: an outside corner, you know. I mean it's it's hard

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Speaker 1: to give these guys true definitions, you know. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: it's position les football is when someone likes to say,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's where the league's going and what does everything? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and sometimes they bring him up

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Speaker 1: the middle. Sometimes they'll put him over the guards and

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Speaker 1: see more of that to roaming around the second level

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that too interesting. Yeah, he's he's that

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Speaker 1: he should have won it. He's the queen on the chessboard.

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Speaker 1: You know, you got to stop the queen because the

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Speaker 1: queen can move all over to place and do lots

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Speaker 1: of different things. Yes, he had. He had three and

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Speaker 1: a half sacks the last time they played. Um, they're

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Speaker 1: allowing the most sacks and league they've allowed the most sex.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't I sent you this last night. I was

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Speaker 1: putting together a DFS lineup and the Steelers were three

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars less than the Ravens. Yeah, right, right, right,

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Speaker 1: like three thousand dollars. You have the you have the

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Speaker 1: league's best sacked team, the Steelers not lead to league

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Speaker 1: in sacks against the league's worst sack team Steelers. Steelers

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Speaker 1: are getting at least five points and five defensive points

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Speaker 1: in this game in terms of sacks. I mean, do you

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Speaker 1: you really think they're gonna give up thirty? I mean,

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Speaker 1: these teams are gonna score. No, it's either you know, right,

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Speaker 1: So it was nine team with Lamar the last time,

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Speaker 1: Like I mean, the last I saw the spread was

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Speaker 1: five and a half. It's crazy. That seems so high

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Speaker 1: to me. It's much much like last week news. But

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Speaker 1: still like these games are always three points. They both

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Speaker 1: have basically cool amount to play with the play for.

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Speaker 1: Neither ones a perfect team by any stretch of imagination,

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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of problems, right, but which team

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Speaker 1: has looked better in terms of defensive late? The defenses

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Speaker 1: aren't closed. No, I mean, one thing I will say

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Speaker 1: about the Ravens is they've played a couple opponents very close.

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Speaker 1: They have quality of bans Packers ram, you know, and

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Speaker 1: I mean they're not laying down for anybody. I mean

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Speaker 1: their point differential of late hasn't been bad against good teams.

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Speaker 1: But they found they've found ways to lose. We're earlier

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Speaker 1: in the season they were finding ways to win exactly.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and I don't think anyone shocked if it

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Speaker 1: comes down to a Boswell or Tucker attempt to win

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Speaker 1: this thing. Not at all. We're two point conversion try. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williams and I am Dale Lali. You're

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