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Speaker 1: Levels to This is an iHeart Women's sports production in

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Speaker 1: partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find

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Speaker 1: get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody, It's Treka Foster Brasby.

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Speaker 1: Y'all know what time it is.

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Speaker 2: It's your girl Cheryl swoops Hey, And this is Levels

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Speaker 2: to This the podcast. This is the show where we

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Speaker 2: share that it's levels to the shit that women go through.

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Speaker 2: And we have such a fun show lined up today.

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Speaker 2: Today we are going to be joined by our girl,

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Speaker 2: Christina Williams, who always knows what's going on. She is

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Speaker 2: the host of In Case you missed It, also on

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Speaker 2: the iHeart Women's Sports Network. But first, Cheryl.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we hait. No, not first, cause I gotta say

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Speaker 1: something because I don't. I don't know who'll be in

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Speaker 1: the streets more you are, Christina.

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Speaker 2: Ah, we've been in the streets together. That's the crazy part.

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Speaker 3: That is the one.

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Speaker 2: Right before we started recording this show, I was clear

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Speaker 2: on the phone with her, texting her trying to figure

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Speaker 2: out what the move is gonna be for NBA All

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Speaker 2: Star because we've been invited to about fifteen parties and

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Speaker 2: ten of them is on the same day, and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how we're gonna do this, well.

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Speaker 1: Me knowing y'all the way, I know y'all, y'all will

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Speaker 1: find a way.

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Speaker 2: We will find a way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you will find a way. So because I know

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get into something, but yeah, let me let

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Speaker 1: me be in my feelings for a minute, please do so.

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Speaker 1: You're telling me that you and Christina have gotten ten

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Speaker 1: to fifteen invites to parties, advents, whatever.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And you are aware that I too will be in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, yep, Yepop.

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Speaker 2: Should I stop her keeping?

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Speaker 4: Nope?

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Speaker 2: You can keep going because I got an answer for

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Speaker 1: Don't know. I already know what you're gonna say, but

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep going out of the ten to fifteen

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Speaker 1: that y'all have gotten. Yep. Can a sister get an

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Speaker 1: invite to just one? Answer?

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Speaker 4: Question?

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Speaker 2: Would a question?

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Speaker 1: Nope? Nope, nope, because I think I know what your

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Speaker 1: answer is gonna be. I don't just want just one,

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Speaker 1: I don't even want the other nine, twelve, eleven, thirteen, Yeah, yep,

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Speaker 1: what's your question to my question?

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Speaker 2: My question? To your question is will you be awake

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Speaker 2: to attend?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, probably not. But what I thought you

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Speaker 1: were really gonna say. I thought I thought you were

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Speaker 1: gonna really be a smart ass and say, well, every

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Speaker 1: time I invite you to something, you never come.

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Speaker 2: I no, I already knew. I already knew every single

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Speaker 2: thing we've been invited to has will start at ten pm.

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Speaker 2: See what I'm saying. Now, when I get the day party,

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Speaker 2: invite you to first on the list.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I am wide awake during the day. T if

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Speaker 1: there's something about being fifty three and menopause, like all

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Speaker 1: the things that when when sleep hits me, I don't

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Speaker 1: care where I am, I will lay my head down

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Speaker 1: on your shoulder at any pool after a certain time.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, y'all have fun for me, think about me,

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Speaker 1: and I'm done with that conversation.

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Speaker 2: So that is keep funny, keep all fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Of you invite.

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Speaker 2: I am real life in tears, because as soon as

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Speaker 2: that I'm gonna be like, hey, Shirul, we about to go,

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Speaker 2: and you're gonna be like okay, and then when the

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Speaker 1: I'm going to No, that's exactly that's me. I ain't

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Speaker 2: I'm want to be here.

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Speaker 1: But but I had all intentions of going to dinner

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Speaker 2: So the good thing about it is that so Sheryla

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Speaker 2: Athletes Unlimited, which has been great, by the way, Like

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Speaker 2: the games have been good. There was a game this morning.

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Speaker 2: It was a school field day game, and it was

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Speaker 2: ce Simms A bucket, a bucket, a bucket honesty. Simms

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Speaker 2: is a stat sheep stuffer period, a one away, one

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Speaker 2: and I will be able to just kick it while

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Speaker 2: I'm there too. Plus my sister lives in Nashville. And

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Speaker 2: you did, you did. But she's gonna be gone. She's

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Speaker 2: going to Houston first spring break, trying to be.

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Speaker 1: Grown, depending on the time, because you know, I love

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Speaker 1: my sleep. I do, I do, I do, Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: But I also know that while we are in San

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Speaker 2: I am so excited for him. But also he's just

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Speaker 2: he's about to be a father, about to be a Grahama,

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Speaker 2: a glamor.

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Speaker 5: Way.

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Speaker 2: What was the name? What was the name?

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Speaker 1: A Nana?

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Speaker 2: Nana? That's right? A n Yes, Nana, that's right? And

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Speaker 2: nan do you know what you're having? Do you know? Girl?

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Speaker 1: Okay, no, I don't, but I guess I soon will.

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Speaker 1: So right before we recorded, you know, I got a

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Speaker 1: said that she went and had some blood work done, right,

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Speaker 1: he said, in at the very bottom of the blood

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Speaker 1: work they put the gender of the baby. They spoiled it,

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Speaker 1: and I was gonna have this whole big gender reveal,

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Speaker 1: so she knows, but he said he doesn't want to know.

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Speaker 1: was like, absolutely, I need to know these things. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So now I guess I'm gonna say the gender Reville

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, You've got to stay on her.

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Speaker 2: You gotta stay on her because it's fun. It's fun

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Speaker 2: no when he doesn't know, and it's fun when the

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Speaker 2: but you definitely got to know because you need to

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Speaker 2: know for the cake and the balloons and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I need to know because I'm already shopping

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Speaker 1: what you So I've bought all gender neutral stuff and

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Speaker 1: now I need to know if I'm going pink.

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Speaker 2: Or blue that is hilarious. You know, maybe about to

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Speaker 2: have all types of elephants, and.

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Speaker 1: We had all kinds of gifts under the tree for

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Speaker 1: Christmas and not even knowing the sex of the baby yet.

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Speaker 2: That is so crazy.

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Speaker 1: But I had this whole big plan right of the

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Speaker 1: gender reveal, me and a couple of my girlfriends were talking.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have all the details, but what I knew

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Speaker 2: Oh and when he dunk it, it will explode or

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Speaker 2: something with all of the stuff. Yeah, I still think

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Speaker 2: that's a good idea.

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Speaker 1: I love it, but I girl the babies. I do

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Speaker 1: it to July.

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Speaker 1: My mama used to say she can't hold water on

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Speaker 2: Well, so when did you plan to have it? Because

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Speaker 2: it's already February, so I know the babies do in July.

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Speaker 2: You could probably do a Genderville like around April and

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Speaker 2: I'd be good.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that should work. But now I got let's hurry

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Speaker 1: find out, well, we're not going we're not going be

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Speaker 1: labor them because I too am nosey as hell, and

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Speaker 1: I want to know.

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Speaker 2: What the baby is so I could start getting my

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Speaker 2: Amazon cart together and shit. So that's how we finn

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Speaker 2: to roll around here. So with no further ado, we

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Speaker 2: gonna have our girl Christina come in because lo KEI

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Speaker 2: baby shit too. She got to come in or you

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Speaker 2: got to come in and contribute to the baby shit too, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Let's get Christina on the line and let's take this

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Speaker 4: I think that's gonna be my girl.

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Speaker 2: And then there are like times where you meet people

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Speaker 2: and you're like, this is my sister, period, like this

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Speaker 2: this just is what it is. It was that way

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Speaker 1: But can we keep it real too and say, but

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Speaker 1: you also have those friends or those people that you're like,

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Speaker 1: oh Na, this bitch aint gonna be it period.

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna be the one. We're not gonna talk,

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna chill. It's gonna be business only. Like

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Speaker 2: it ain't going to carry it. But I'm telling you,

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Speaker 2: the one person who had never felt that way about,

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Speaker 2: and it's been years in the making now, is this

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Speaker 2: that is the one and only Christina Williams. Hey, Christina from.

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Speaker 1: The legendary Ryl Swoops Christina. Okay, time out because I

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Speaker 1: see t but I gotta let them know. Christina came

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Speaker 1: with the Middle Park bust down.

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Speaker 5: I don't lack.

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Speaker 4: She's not playing playing and it is rageous.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: It makes sense to me that she will walk up

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Speaker 2: in here with this twenty eight inch busch down.

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Speaker 4: Because when you have been wrecked ized by Forbes, and when.

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Speaker 2: You have received the accolades that Christina has received for

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Speaker 2: not only being a creator and not only being someone

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Speaker 2: media company, I'm literally in the game with her own

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Speaker 2: show right here on the iHeartRadio Network. In case you

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Speaker 2: missed it, With Christina Williams, you can't go anywhere where

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Speaker 2: you aren't flawless.

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Speaker 4: So I get it. It makes sense to me.

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Speaker 1: I didn't expect anything less. So yeah, but in fairness

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Speaker 1: to Christina though she always the hair is always laid, now,

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Speaker 1: don't got the hair is always laid.

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Speaker 2: trenches with us. You ain't at the games with us, says,

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Speaker 2: you ain't at the games with us, homie, you ain't

444
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Speaker 2: never been in the press conference with us. You're not

445
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Speaker 2: having these conversations with athletes with us on a day

446
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Speaker 2: to day basis. But we always see you during free

447
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 2: agency and we always see you at the trade deadline.

448
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Speaker 2: That's a dead giveaway that you're not in it for

449
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Speaker 2: the sport and to grow the sport. You're in it

450
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Speaker 2: because it's popular and the agency is feeding y'all information.

451
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Speaker 6: That's what Jim Well, it was just about to say

452
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Speaker 6: to you, like that goes on the representatives and you

453
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Speaker 6: know those people who you know, we'll have control of.

454
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Speaker 5: Who gets access to what.

455
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Speaker 6: I think that it's a huge disservice right to just

456
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Speaker 6: have those people who parachute in two times a year.

457
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Speaker 6: I get that you want to give your client more

458
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Speaker 6: exposure when it comes to the coverage or the news,

459
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Speaker 6: but you know there are people who have control and

460
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Speaker 6: power to amplify the people who are already in this space.

461
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Speaker 6: And so I agree, it's very frustrating as someone who

462
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Speaker 6: who's been in this space for about seventy years now

463
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Speaker 6: to see how certain things unfold. But I don't concern

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Speaker 6: myself with what other people are doing. I can only

465
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Speaker 6: continue to do what you know I do and keep

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Speaker 6: the main thing.

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Speaker 1: To that point, it it frustrates me. And I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about as a player, right, because I can remember where

469
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Speaker 1: we started in ninety seven and who was there, who

470
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Speaker 1: was covering not only covering, like, who was talking about it,

471
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Speaker 1: who was promoting the league.

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Speaker 3: Basically, who gave a shit about it?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't a whole lot of us, wasn't a

475
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Speaker 1: whole lot of y'all And today when I look at

476
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Speaker 1: just all the different opportunities, which, yeah, I'm excited to

477
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Speaker 1: see it and I'm happy for it, but it pisces

478
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Speaker 1: me off when I see.

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Speaker 3: Example like an unrival right love the league.

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Speaker 1: I think what they're doing for the players is great,

481
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Speaker 1: the opportunity is great, but can you just show a

482
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Speaker 1: little love and respect and appreciation for those who've been

483
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Speaker 1: there from day one covering women's basketball, not men's basketball

484
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Speaker 1: or not some other sport. I ain't about to put

485
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Speaker 1: no names out there, but I'm just saying like, that's

486
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Speaker 1: a great opportunity for unrival, for the players, but it

487
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Speaker 1: could also be a great opportunity for journalists, for media,

488
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Speaker 1: for people like a Tea Christina, for y'all to have

489
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Speaker 1: that opportunity to cover the game because you've been doing

490
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Speaker 1: it a lot longer than some of these others who

491
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Speaker 1: just finally said, oh damn, this women's basketball thing might

492
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Speaker 1: be for real.

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Speaker 6: And I do have to say in women's basketball, when

494
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 6: you're in this space, it's more of you investing into

495
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Speaker 6: yourself in the beginning, right before you even make any returns.

496
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Speaker 6: Like I'm so grateful that I have to live in

497
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Speaker 6: doing this, and I have to do anything else. But

498
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Speaker 6: there are a lot of people in women's basketball media

499
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Speaker 6: who have two and three jobs. They're freelancing, over indexing

500
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Speaker 6: as freelancers in this space because of the lack of opportunities,

501
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Speaker 6: and when you see other people who cover other sports

502
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Speaker 6: this parachute into women's basketball, it's very sad because I

503
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 6: have peers in this industry who want full time jobs

504
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Speaker 6: and are getting overlooked because they may not have enough

505
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Speaker 6: followers or whatever deal is with that.

506
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Speaker 5: You know, they could be.

507
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Speaker 6: Better the hiring processes, the opportunities should be given to

508
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Speaker 6: those who are in the space, who know the space,

509
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Speaker 6: who are familiar with the space, and who really care

510
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Speaker 6: about advancing the stories of these athletes.

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Speaker 1: As a player, as a former player, like, we see

512
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Speaker 1: those things and it matters because for me, it's always

513
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Speaker 1: been about.

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Speaker 3: Building those relationships with the media, with the journalists reporters,

515
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Speaker 3: and for me.

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Speaker 1: As a player, I wanted to talk to someone that

517
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Speaker 1: I could trust, that I was comfortable with, and also

518
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Speaker 1: someone that I knew gave a damn about what we

519
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Speaker 1: were doing and they weren't just there for a check. Right, Yeah,

520
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: you should get paid for what you do, but it

521
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Speaker 1: was always important to me to see genuine, real love

522
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Speaker 1: for what we were doing, and it just bothers me

523
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Speaker 1: to see all of a sudden, people who never really

524
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Speaker 1: cared are getting opportunities that people who've been there from

525
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Speaker 1: day one should be getting.

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Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: I absolutely agree, and it's just really hard to process

528
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Speaker 6: because it's happening in real time and you're seeing everything

529
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Speaker 6: unfold the way it's unfolding, and it's not the end

530
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Speaker 6: all be all, but there's like keeping the main thing

531
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Speaker 6: when it comes to being able to provide equal opportunities

532
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Speaker 6: for those who've been in the space. And that's why

533
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Speaker 6: we need more diversity in these positions when it comes

534
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Speaker 6: to decision making, so that you those who are familiar

535
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Speaker 6: with women's basketball and are making the decisions make sure

536
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Speaker 6: that they.

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Speaker 5: Keep opportunity to those who have been in this space.

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Speaker 2: So facts absolutely absolutely, we're gonna take a quick break

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Speaker 2: and when we come back, we're gonna have more conversation

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Speaker 2: with b one and only Christina Williams and the legendary

541
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Speaker 2: Chryl Swoops on levels to this. Be right, bad guys, friends,

542
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Speaker 2: we are back on levels to this. We got our girl,

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Speaker 2: Christina Williams with us today, And speaking of decision making,

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Speaker 2: it's been a lot of decisions in the WNBA over

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Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 6: There.

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Speaker 3: Maybe let's go.

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Speaker 4: This thing is litty out here in these streets. Okay.

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Speaker 2: First of all, we're seeing people make decisions to leave

550
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Speaker 2: their teams. We already knew that this free agency was

551
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Speaker 2: about to be nuts, but I don't think I expected

552
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Speaker 2: it to be this nuts. And Lord knows, I'm in

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Speaker 2: Connecticut losing my damn man because I don't know nobody

554
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Speaker 2: no more.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know a single nothing about

556
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Speaker 4: going on. I ain't never seen a.

557
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Speaker 2: Whole start in five, just literally, the whole Start five,

558
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Speaker 2: the entire Start five is all gone.

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Speaker 4: It's all gone gone, Gord. I needed a drink.

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Speaker 2: I needed a drink every single day, every single day,

561
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Speaker 2: every time I saw And here's the thing too, some

562
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Speaker 2: people I had an inkling on.

563
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Speaker 4: Some people I knew.

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Speaker 2: But unlike our friend Christina, I'm not in the breaking

565
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Speaker 2: news space. So always laugh when folks are like, oh,

566
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Speaker 2: you out here talking junk, but you ain't posting nothing

567
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Speaker 2: on your Twitter above who going We're because that's not

568
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Speaker 2: my job. I don't get paid to break news. I

569
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Speaker 2: get paid to laugh at y'all reactions when the news

570
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Speaker 2: has been broken. I don't get paid to break news,

571
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Speaker 2: so don't assult that I don't know what's happening or

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Speaker 2: what's going on. But until I get paid to break

573
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Speaker 2: the news, the news will remain with me until those

574
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Speaker 2: who do get paid to break it. With that being said,

575
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Speaker 2: I needed a drink every single day.

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Speaker 5: Same but same man, I'm sober this far.

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Speaker 4: Ye, same, Yes, Yes, it's been wild.

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Speaker 1: I was telling someone we were talking about it, and

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Speaker 1: I said, I think in the twenty what twenty.

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Speaker 3: Eight years of the w is it twenty eight years

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Speaker 3: on twenty nine? Close?

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Speaker 1: Because my son's twenty seven, he'll be twenty Okay.

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Speaker 3: I think this was the biggest free.

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Speaker 1: Agency moves and stuff that we've seen, and I am

585
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Speaker 1: here for all of it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I love it. It's spicy, it's juicy. People already talking

587
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Speaker 3: shit about who's gonna do what?

588
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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 5: I love it now.

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Speaker 1: I do have some questions about some moves, but I

592
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Speaker 1: love it.

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Speaker 6: Ie here, as you guys said, is the biggest free

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Speaker 6: agency that we've seen in recent years, and the WNBA

595
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 6: big splashes were being made. Obviously, having some leagues like

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Speaker 6: Unrivaled and AU happening in the offseason definitely helped. But

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Speaker 6: I love that players have been over the last few

598
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Speaker 6: free agencies taking their power back, demanding better.

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Speaker 5: Facilities playing This might not be a fit for me.

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Speaker 6: John Paul Jones knew when her time was up with

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Speaker 6: the Connecticut Son requested the trade, went to the Liberty

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Speaker 6: and now two seasons later as a WNBA Champion Finals MVP.

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Speaker 6: And so to your point, you say Connecticut blew.

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Speaker 5: Everything up, I think that you know, it was an

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Speaker 5: end of an era.

606
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Speaker 6: Like they didn't win the window took it closed a

607
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Speaker 6: time ago.

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Speaker 5: Steph White jump ship.

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Speaker 6: She's in Indiana right now, and so I think that

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Speaker 6: Core five had to break up and see where it

611
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Speaker 6: was time elsewhere.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was it was.

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Speaker 2: I think I expected Dja Carrington at least to be

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Speaker 2: that one piece to stay. I think of all of

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Speaker 2: the five people who surprised me the most, seeing Breonna

616
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Speaker 2: Jones go to Atlanta shook me the most. I did

617
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Speaker 2: not foresee that coming, and I specifically didn't see that

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Speaker 2: coming after Atlanta had just signed Britney Griner.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna talk about that. That was a shock.

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Speaker 2: But when I'm thinking about not to get too deep

621
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Speaker 2: into weeds here on the basketball, but I'm thinking about

622
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Speaker 2: the new coach in Atlanta and carls Mesco. I'm thinking

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Speaker 2: about how he likes to run a very high volume

624
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Speaker 2: of shooting percentage type Austin and I just kept thinking,

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Speaker 2: you know, BG is a scoring big, right, so she

626
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Speaker 2: could shoot from outside, so I could see how that

627
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Speaker 2: could possibly fit. I didn't quite see how Breonna Jones

628
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Speaker 2: could possibly.

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Speaker 6: Fix for Atlanta, honestly, Like, yeah, the spacing, I'm a

630
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Speaker 6: little worried about that. I'm not sure how it's gonna

631
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Speaker 6: come together with you know, Beg and Breanna Jones, and

632
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Speaker 6: then you have your guards that like to drive right.

633
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Speaker 6: I don't know how that's gonna work, but I'm looking

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Speaker 6: forward to seat to seeing how they put it all

635
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Speaker 6: to y'all.

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Speaker 2: Remember that Cat William's joke, but he was like, I

637
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Speaker 2: don't know how this is gonna work, but I'm gonna

638
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Speaker 2: do my part. That's how I feel about Atlanta right now.

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00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what's gonna happen, but I'm gonna show

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Speaker 2: up and support.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna do my part.

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Speaker 5: Because here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: T you were saying, BG can shoot from outside, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but g gonna do more damage if she and the pain.

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00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: No, of course, but if you are looking to space

646
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: the floor, you can absolutely feel more comfortable if you're

647
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Speaker 2: a Smessko Like if BG needs to shoot from outside,

648
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Speaker 2: she can't not that's gonna be her first option.

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Speaker 4: But I need to give the ball to Breezy to

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Speaker 4: find out from outside.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take that all day long because nine times

652
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Speaker 2: out of ten, no shade on Breezy, of course, but

653
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying that's not her strength. But Christina, I'll

654
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Speaker 2: go to you first and then show I'll come back

655
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Speaker 2: to you. What move surprised you the most? Over this

656
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Speaker 2: free agency so.

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Speaker 6: Far surprised me the most? I feel like nothing really

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Speaker 6: surprised me. If that because I'm the one breaking some

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Speaker 6: of this stuff, so not.

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Speaker 4: Even when you get it, when you get it before

661
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Speaker 4: we get it.

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Speaker 6: Okay, surprise me, I would say, Dewana Bonner to the

663
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Speaker 6: Indiana Fever surprised me. Yeah, fifty fifty, only because I

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Speaker 6: get it.

665
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 5: I understand.

666
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 6: Like the history with coach Stephanie White and Amber who

667
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 6: used to work for Connecticut as well, like that relationship

668
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 6: relationships matter, and free agency for sure.

669
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 5: I understand the fit as well with the other pieces

670
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 5: that they add.

671
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 6: The top priority obviously for the Fever where to resign

672
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 6: Kelsey Mitchell. And then they add three time champion Natasha Howard,

673
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 6: You add Dwana Bonner, Sophie Cunningham, Jaylen Brown. You add

674
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 6: all of these pieces, and then you're a championship contended team.

675
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 6: I think from the fans perspective, they thought maybe Dewanna

676
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 6: would go to Phoenix and be with her fiancee and

677
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 6: former teammate, you know, Alyssa Thomas, bring the family together

678
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 6: type thing.

679
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 5: I could see how she would have.

680
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 6: Fit in Phoenix, but also the cap space situation with

681
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 6: all of those contracts, obviously, that probably would not have

682
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 6: been in their best interest because they have to build

683
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 6: a bench in Phoenix with the signings, have sought to

684
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 6: et cetera, et cetera. So I guess that shocked me

685
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 6: the most to see that she signed to the Indiana Fever.

686
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 6: But I do think that they are going to be

687
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 6: a championship contending team right away.

688
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 4: Dang, what about you, Cheryl?

689
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yl's like, yeah, yeah, I want to just piggyback

690
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: off of what Christina said. And then I'll give you

691
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: another one that surprised me. Do wanna absolutely that one?

692
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: I was like, what dB to the Fever? Didn't see

693
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: that one coming. But I don't know if people really know,

694
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: like Jaylen Brown can ball? She can ball. So you

695
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: got Jaylen Brown, You got Natasha Howard, who I think

696
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: is a really good vet who can still give you bucket,

697
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: she can rebound. I think she's gonna be really good

698
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: alongside a Leah Boston because we ain't even talked about

699
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: who's coming back. You got Jaylen Brown, Natasha Howard. Do

700
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: want a bonner? And so people were saying last year

701
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: right like the Fever needed an enforcer or dog or somebody?

702
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 5: La la la?

703
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: Is that Sophie Cunningham. I don't know, but we know

704
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: who Sophie. You add Sophie Cunningham. You're bringing back Caitlin

705
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: of course, Kelsey Mitchell resigning, Leah Boston and Lexi Hall listen, listen.

706
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 5: To their problem.

707
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 3: They are going to be a problem from day one, Okay.

708
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: And we can talk about this team all day long,

709
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go to Dallas, Busy Dallas exciredly making

710
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: some moves right. You already got Irique. And then here's

711
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: my thing. They get the number one pick, and I

712
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 1: know people are talking, that's Paige Beckers.

713
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 3: To me, if it's.

714
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 1: Page Beckers, if it's Olivia Miles, doesn't really matter. Either

715
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: one of them are gonna come in and fit in

716
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: right away. And then you add Melissa Smith Djonay. I

717
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: was like, okay, Dallas and quiet as it's kept. Didn't

718
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: they just the other day signed may sha heinz Allen.

719
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 5: Yes they did.

720
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really like this Dallas team.

721
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: Ty Harris going to Dallas gives him another point guard.

722
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 3: Don't sleep on Texas, baby a sol them will.

723
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 6: Say, I heard got in that front office and immediately

724
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 6: started cooking. And then you add Chris Clokanis, who obviously

725
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 6: served as an assistant coach throughout the WNBA, but just

726
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 6: had tenure at USC as well, really working with Juju

727
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 6: Walkins and some of the players. He's a players coach,

728
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 6: preached a lot of defense first, has that experience in

729
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 6: Nola as well. We'll be joining the coaching staff. So

730
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 6: you just add all of the different elements. I think

731
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 6: that it changes the conversation and the way people perceive

732
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 6: the Dallas Wings organization, who notoriously have had that bad

733
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 6: rep over the last few years of not being able

734
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 6: to retain their stars of front office whatever. I think

735
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 6: that you have all of these people in right now

736
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 6: just resetting everything and just changing that perspective. You have

737
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 6: those new facilities that are going to be built and

738
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 6: done by next year, moving downtown. I think that it

739
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 6: automatically makes this attractive destination for free agency. Free agency,

740
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 6: also tax free. I know the state tax.

741
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: Yeah we none, we might not be paying taxes anyway,

742
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: but that's a whole difference.

743
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 5: Why Well, you said you were going to say the

744
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 5: least I was.

745
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 4: Dallas to me was the surprise like of the teams.

746
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: Dallas was a surprise team because low key the like

747
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: you already mentioned it. You said it like everybody who

748
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: they brought back, and it was just like wow, like all.

749
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 4: Low key, you're making moves. But I will also say,

750
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 4: I like what they are trying to build in Los Angeles.

751
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 4: I'm not going to sleep on Los Angeles. I like

752
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 4: what they're building in Los Angeles.

753
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: Bringing over Kelsey Plumb was so smart and you and

754
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: I both Cheryl talked about how we did not understand

755
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 2: why Odyssey Simms was not on a roster to start

756
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: a season. Them signing Odyssey Sims given one how she

757
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: performed last year in both Dallas and LA. They looked

758
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 2: like a brand team when they were able to add

759
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 2: a legit point guard. You give that veteran presence to

760
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 2: a team. So you know what she's gonna bring you.

761
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 2: You got d Erica, who, honestly the way D played

762
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 2: last year, if it were not for LA being where

763
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 2: LA was statistically, I very much saw her entering the

764
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: MVP conversation.

765
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 4: We know who the MVP was for sure, and we

766
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 4: know Fee was right here too, for sure. But Deerica

767
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 4: don't sleep.

768
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: D played the hell out of her some basketball last year,

769
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 2: and so I like that energy.

770
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 4: Connecting her again with Kelsey Plump is going to be cool.

771
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: You're about to get Cam back because Cam said this

772
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: acl ain't gonna hold me.

773
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 4: So you're about to get Cam back. And then my

774
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 4: Detroit girl, Rakia Jackson.

775
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,959
Speaker 2: Gonna eat them up. Like I like what they are

776
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: building in LA. So I was happy about that move.

777
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: KP seems real excited to be in LA to get

778
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 2: a fresh start. And then the announcement came out that

779
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 2: they are going to be building a practice facility for

780
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: the Sparks.

781
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 5: So about time. It only took twenty nine years.

782
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 4: It only took twenty nine years.

783
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: Right forever. But I like the investment that teams are making.

784
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: To that same extent, that will also be the downfall

785
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 2: of other teams when they are not making that same investment.

786
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 2: It is going to be difficult to attract free agents

787
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: and players who want and feel like they deserve to

788
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: have top notch and elite facilities. And I think that

789
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 2: is going to be an issue with Connecticut now. I

790
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 2: look at Connecticut right now, and currently they've got Natasha Cloud,

791
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 2: They've got Diamond Deshields who they just signed, Marina Maybrey

792
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 2: still there.

793
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 4: They've added Tina Charles, so I can.

794
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 2: Say they still have Lacan who was their draft pick

795
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 2: from last year, who's a point guard for France. So

796
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: J J. C. Sheldon, You're right, I love jac Sheldon,

797
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 2: Olivia and Olivia Nelson Adota. Of course, that's tween we

798
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: got the same birthday. Go to me in I am

799
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: not at all saying that it's some scrubs in Connecticut.

800
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 2: Hell no, like they got some dogs in Connecticut if

801
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: they can make it fit. But it's gonna be so

802
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: much to find out because you're gonna have to see

803
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 2: how each of them work together. It's a new coach,

804
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: it's a new GM. Even though Morgan has been there,

805
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: she's still new to this particular role. It is going

806
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 2: to be interesting to see how this team comes together.

807
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 2: But it's gonna be hard to bring people there if

808
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 2: they cannot, if the ownership group cannot make the same

809
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: financial level of investing into the team as other teams

810
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: are beginning to make. Christina, I love your thoughts on

811
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: how you feel about p considering new investments, new ventures,

812
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 2: and what they're doing to try to give these women

813
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: what they deserve. And Cheryl, I'm gonna come at you

814
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: after because as a former player, I certainly want your

815
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 2: thoughts on how important these kind of facilities.

816
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 6: Are just to add to their free agency the point

817
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 6: of it. I think that one thing that really stood

818
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 6: out to me this off season was Alysa Thomas during

819
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 6: the WNBA season, but in the off season, just her

820
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 6: being very vocal to the media about investment and facilities,

821
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 6: and I think maybe her last row was that community

822
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 6: center birthday party when they were trying to practice during playoffrole.

823
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 6: But yeah, it's like, no longer are these athletes accepting

824
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 6: the bare minimum or the crumbs. This is a professional

825
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 6: basketball league. The top one person athletes in the world

826
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 6: are part of the WNBA, and so the investment should

827
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 6: be reflective of that.

828
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 5: They deserve the top of the top end.

829
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 6: So one of the things that stood out to me

830
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 6: when I was at Unrivaled was just the athlete first

831
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 6: kind of attitude of what do we need and having

832
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 6: top trainers, performanceities and things available. Resources, just resources available

833
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 6: to these athletes. But also to add to the free

834
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 6: agency conversation, I think that the mistakes are quiet right

835
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 6: now and they need a lot of help. I think

836
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,479
Speaker 6: that this is not saying that they're going to trade

837
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 6: or make any moves, but like I feel like throughout

838
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 6: the week, we'll probably see more moves being made and

839
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 6: to the point of big names being signed to other teams.

840
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 6: I think that the New York Liberty still can we

841
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 6: can say or I can say that I still think

842
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 6: that they are one of the top teams to beat.

843
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 6: I think continuity when it comes to teams like the

844
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 6: New York Liberty and the links will definitely be of

845
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 6: an advantage. We saw that it took the Liberty two

846
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 6: seasons with their core to develop the chemistry in order

847
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 6: to win a championship, and so I think that just

848
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 6: continuity with some of the rosters will definitely give certain

849
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 6: teams an advantage coming into the twenty twenty five season.

850
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 6: But I think that this is we'll still continue to

851
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 6: see more moves being made throughout the month.

852
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

853
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: Well, when you talk about free agency and you talk

854
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: about facilities and what players are looking for, you know,

855
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: when the league started at ninety seven, this.

856
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: Shit ain't happen. All of that's free agency and movement.

857
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: And you know what, we practiced where the NBA teams practice,

858
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: right the Rock of the Comments. We practiced at west

859
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: Side Tennis Club where the Rock is practiced. The only

860
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: good thing about that for us was we never really

861
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: had an issue getting into the practice facility when it

862
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: was our time. But I do know for a fact

863
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 1: there are so many teams in the w who had

864
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 1: to fight to get into a practice facility even when

865
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: we were in season.

866
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: Crazy when you think.

867
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: About it, and so, yeah, it's about time when I

868
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 1: think about what players look for today and again, it's

869
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: very different. But you want to be able to go

870
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: somewhere where you feel like the team cares about you,

871
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: They're going to take care of you, they understand what

872
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: your needs are, they're listening. This is a professional their

873
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: professional teams, they're professional women.

874
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 3: They should be able to have their own shit.

875
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: They should be able to have their own practice facility

876
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: where they can have their own lockers and not have

877
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: to take their stuff out. We had to do that

878
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: all the time, like back in the day, we couldn't

879
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: leave stuff in our lockers because it really wasn't hour.

880
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: So I'm like really excited to think about all these

881
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: teams that are building facilities. And you know, when I

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Speaker 1: think about it, you mentioned the Sparks are building one.

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Speaker 1: The Mercury they're getting a new facility. Chicago Sky they're

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Speaker 1: getting their own practice facility. The Valkyries, we've seen what

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Speaker 1: they have like crazy, beautiful, great. The ace is Again,

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Speaker 1: if I'm Connecticut, and I'm only saying Connecticut because you

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Speaker 1: brought you mentioned Connecticut, You're going to have to do

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Speaker 1: something different.

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Speaker 3: Right if you're trying to compete and you.

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Speaker 1: Want to be able to bring in some of the

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Speaker 1: top free agents, you got to be better than this.

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Speaker 5: And the last one.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to mention is the Indiana Fever's scheduled to

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Speaker 1: open up their new practice facility before twenty twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: a seventy eight million dollar facility. Now I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know the price for all these other ones,

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Speaker 1: but everybody.

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Speaker 3: Talks about the Caitlin Clark effect. Is this the Caitland

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Speaker 3: Clark effect?

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Speaker 2: Without question? But I also.

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Speaker 1: Believe Indiana right, they get it, they understand we also

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Speaker 1: got to be better. We want to be able to

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Speaker 1: bring in some of the top free agents. And listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm not I don't know who is gonna win the title,

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Speaker 1: but Indiana Fever's gonna be in that conversation.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And I can't wait to see what this practice facility

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Speaker 1: is going to look like. But seventy eight million bucks

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Speaker 1: on a practice facility, let's go. I do want to

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Speaker 1: say Kelsey Mitchell, I am so happy and excited to

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Speaker 1: see her finally getting her flowers from Indiana. I'm happy

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Speaker 1: that she took her time, she explored free agency and

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Speaker 1: decided that the the Fever was the best place for

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Speaker 1: her to be. And because that little duo last year

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Speaker 1: Mitchell and Clark was nice, and I'm just shout out

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Speaker 1: to Kelsey Mitchell. I'm happy she's getting her flowers and

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Speaker 1: can't wait to see what she does this season.

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Speaker 6: Shout out to Kel's I think that, Yeah, I think

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Speaker 6: that was a top priority coming in. Ambercox had come

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Speaker 6: on to my show a couple weeks prior and talked

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Speaker 6: about how important that was to re sign Kelsey. That

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Speaker 6: was a top priority for them, and she is one

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Speaker 6: of the longest tenured players on that roster. She has

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Speaker 6: a connection with the community outside of what she can

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Speaker 6: do on the court, and so I think that is

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Speaker 6: important when you talk about building that next era of

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Speaker 6: WNBA basketball in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 5: So I'm excited to see the Fever play this season.

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Speaker 2: Same and just think we're gonna do all of this

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Speaker 2: all over again next year. Because all of these players

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Speaker 2: signed one year deals with the new CBA and the

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Speaker 2: new TV agreement and all of that coming out in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, these players are now going to shoot

934
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Speaker 2: themselves in the foot by signing and locking into more

935
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Speaker 2: than knowing that could do and will get more in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. So to your point about not taking crumbs,

937
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Speaker 2: and knowing what they deserve. And man, this is gonna

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Speaker 2: be so good for women's basketball. And this was great

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Speaker 2: having Christina on the show to like help us break

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Speaker 2: it all down and talk about it.

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Speaker 4: I love this. Christina.

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Speaker 2: You have got to one tell the people where they

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Speaker 2: can find you and where they can listen to your show.

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Speaker 4: I've been on the show, Cheryl. Have you been on

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Speaker 4: the show?

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Speaker 1: No? I haven't. I haven't. I haven't gotten it in.

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Speaker 6: I haven't got stuff now I be out on her

948
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Speaker 6: podcast on the show.

949
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Speaker 5: Is always invited, She's always invited.

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Speaker 3: Stop stop, I'm just I say, I'm always invited. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna call you, like, bro, let me come on period

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Speaker 3: this period.

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Speaker 5: You're Hall of Famer. Always invited, always have to invite.

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Speaker 5: You can find me on.

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Speaker 6: Twitter or x whatever they call it at Christina, THAT'SH.

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Speaker 5: Not a c H.

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Speaker 6: You can follow my show in case you missed it

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Speaker 6: with Christina Williams on iHeartRadio. It comes on every Wednesday,

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Speaker 6: so yeah, check for the show. This week, we have

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Speaker 6: Yukon's kk Arnold on the show helping us break down

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Speaker 6: some of the latest and women's basketball, So yeah, come

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Speaker 6: through every Wednesday.

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Speaker 5: In case you missed it.

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Speaker 4: Love that, thanks so much for joining.

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Speaker 2: We will be kicking it at NBA All Star so

966
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Speaker 2: you can look and see all of that content on

967
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 2: social media because you already know that it's going to

968
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Speaker 2: be a good time when all three of us get together.

969
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Speaker 2: But anyway, thank you so much for joining us, Christina, and.

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Speaker 4: We will be back to level offs after this.

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Speaker 2: You know, I always enjoy talking to Christina, and it

972
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Speaker 2: always just feels like such a natural, normal conversation because

973
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Speaker 2: like that's my homegirl, right, Like that's my homegirl for real,

974
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: for real, And so she's just so insightful when I

975
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: think about free agency, when I think about just coming

976
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: up into this space, you know, and I think about

977
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Speaker 2: all of the people who have really been there from

978
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Speaker 2: their beginning, right, maybe not the beginning of the league,

979
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 2: but from the beginning of her time being in the industry.

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00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 2: It feels good to always have that person who you

981
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 2: know is truly invested in covering the game and bringing

982
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 2: light to the game and highlighting players and highlighting the

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00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 2: greats of this game, but also making some noise in

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00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: her own right.

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00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but te you're in that category as well, right,

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00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: And for me, it's all about those people who've been

987
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: there from the beginning, maybe not like ninety seven when

988
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: the league started, but you've been there, you've put your

989
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: time in, you've invested, and you're doing it for the

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00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: right reason. So absolutely, Christina is that she is her.

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Speaker 3: You are her.

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00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: And that's why she's stay in the streets. Could she

993
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: be getting her information for real?

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Speaker 2: That is for real and it means a lot to

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00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: hear those kinds of compliments come from someone like you,

996
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 2: not just because you're my co host and friend, but

997
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 2: also because of you being the building blocks. But it's fact,

998
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: but it just it also just feels good to know

999
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: that we haven't disappointed the people who laid the groundwork

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00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: for this game. It's important to us to be able

1001
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: to make you all proud and be like, hey, I

1002
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 2: love the direction of the coverage and that and that

1003
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 2: that is truly important. But also, yes, we do be

1004
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: in the streets, and we will absolutely be in the

1005
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: streets this weekend while also but we will also be

1006
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 2: doing some live shows while we are in the San

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00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 2: France for NBA All Stars. So if you are listening

1008
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 2: and you either live in the area or will be

1009
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 2: traveling to the area for NBA All Star. Please pull

1010
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 2: up as Splash. We will be as Splash a Thrive City.

1011
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 2: That's what we're going to be doing some live shows

1012
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 2: levels to this will be live. We got some special

1013
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 2: guests coming. You gotta show up to see who it is,

1014
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: So please make sure you're checking in with Sheryl and

1015
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 2: I on on Friday. I believe it is when we're

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Speaker 2: gonna be recording our show.

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Speaker 1: So with that and listen before you Yeah, gone, but listen.

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Speaker 2: Y'all show up.

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00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: You never know. We might just pull you out of

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Speaker 1: the audience and be like, come on up here and

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00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: have a chit chat with us. Let's talk a.

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Speaker 2: Little bit for real. Yes, yes, And we might have

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00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 2: some swag. We might have some giveaways. You never know,

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Speaker 2: so you might leave with some free shit. Y'all love

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Speaker 2: free shit. I love I love free shit.

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Speaker 1: Girl.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. If it's free, it's

1028
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: for me, a pin, a bag of shirt, I don't

1029
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Speaker 2: care what it is, a Bobby pin. I might need

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Speaker 2: a Bobby track down. I'm telling you, you never know,

1031
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Speaker 2: so pull on us. But anyway, until we get there,

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Speaker 2: I need you to level us on up with today's word.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know I'm gonna do that again. As I

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00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: said before, it is still February. It is still Black

1035
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Speaker 1: History Month. I mean it's Black History for me every day,

1036
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Speaker 1: but periods Black History Month without getting into all the things,

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Speaker 1: all the shit that's going on in this world. Right now,

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Speaker 1: here's a good one. And yeah, I'm gonna say this

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Speaker 1: to myself and y'all can listen. The question isn't who

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Speaker 1: is going to let me, it's who is going to

1041
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: stop me? That's it. That's what I got for you.

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00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: Oh, the question isn't who's going to let me, it's

1043
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: who's going to stop me. See, that's my mantra.

1044
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 1: Because because I'm gonna make sure it happen.

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00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: That's my mantra, because I'm gonna ask for forgiveness, not

1046
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 2: permission type of shack you feel me? Yes, yes, I

1047
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 2: love it.

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00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 4: I love it.

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00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. Well with that, friends,

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00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: we appreciate you all continuing to listen to levels to this.

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00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 2: We'll be back next week with more next level conversations

1052
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 2: just about the real ship that women go through. Probably

1053
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: have a really cool update as well on what we

1054
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 2: did or didn't do at NBA. All y'all y'all what

1055
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Speaker 2: somebody didn't come to But anyway, just understand that this

1056
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: is not just our show, but it's our show, so

1057
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: we want to hear from you. Continue to leave us

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Speaker 2: your reviews and Apple podcasts. You can also email us

1059
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Speaker 2: at Levels to This Podcast at gmail dot com. Tell

1060
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Speaker 2: us what you think of this week's show or what

1061
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: you might want to talk about. Let us know if

1062
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: you pulled up on us at the NBA All Star

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00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: But in any case, you can follow us on Instagram

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Speaker 2: at ltt pod and until then, keep your mentals ground

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Speaker 2: level and we'll be back next week.

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Speaker 1: Peace y'all.

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Speaker 2: Peace.

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