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Speaker 1: episode description. All Right, Hi, everybody, 'menthusiasman.
Speaker 2: And I'm Jeff Garlics and.
Speaker 1: We are doing season five, episode seven, the sayer yes yes.
Speaker 1: And we start out with Larry's down at his front steps.
Speaker 1: It's the morning and he's looking for something. He doesn't
Speaker 1: see it, and then he sees the neighbors across the street,
Speaker 1: older couple taking packages out of their car. And the
Speaker 1: neighbors are Pat Harrington who plays Mac and Jenny Ventris,
Speaker 1: who plays Ethel Mac. Pat Harrington is, of course an
Speaker 1: old character actor and commedee. He was a stand up,
Speaker 1: right end up yes yes on one day at a
Speaker 1: time for many one day he.
Speaker 2: Played a handyman around the building. Yeah. He was very
Speaker 2: sweet to me, and uh, you know, anytime I get
Speaker 2: a chance to work with I was a big, you know,
Speaker 2: TV movie person. So when I work with anyone that
Speaker 2: from my child of that stuff, I get very excited,
Speaker 2: and he was great. And you know, I always say
Speaker 2: he answered every question I asked. I asked him what
Speaker 2: Bonnie Franklin was really like and then she was a
Speaker 2: gentle love maker. I wanted to know if all.
Speaker 1: Of those guys. What I remember about all those comedians
Speaker 1: when I was growing up is they were always on
Speaker 1: the quiz shows, on Password and on you know, the
Speaker 1: match Game and all that stuff. And that's what I
Speaker 1: remember them from the most. You know, where where did
Speaker 1: we see stand up? Except the Ed Sullivan Show, We
Speaker 1: didn't really well, the Tonight Show and the Night Show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true Tonight and yeah.
Speaker 2: And uh, Mike Douglas, that's it. List is over, Yeah, done, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Mike Douglas. Do you know where he records? Where the
Speaker 2: show from?
Speaker 1: Nowhere?
Speaker 2: Philadelphia?
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, I did know that, Yeah, Philadelpha. How
Speaker 1: interesting that is it?
Speaker 2: It is really interesting because I don't think there's been
Speaker 2: a show that's been actually based there of that type.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I take about American bands.
Speaker 1: American band said, I was just about Clark from Malvern
Speaker 1: in New York, where I was brought up, and who
Speaker 1: else grew up in Mount Vern in New.
Speaker 2: York Sheena Easton Veren and Statman Crothers, somebody you know
Speaker 2: very well Mount Vernon.
Speaker 1: We both went to Malvern in high school together. No,
Speaker 1: he's ten years younger than me.
Speaker 2: So you're dated.
Speaker 1: No, we did not date. But he's somebody you love.
Speaker 2: The age you love, hold on though the age range
Speaker 2: of the guys you dated many years ago. Yess much
Speaker 2: younger than you.
Speaker 1: But I did not date this gentleman happily, not because
Speaker 1: I'm happy I didn't date it. No, he's ten years
Speaker 1: younger than me. You think Allen's white bell is ten
Speaker 1: years younger than me?
Speaker 2: No? Uh? Who JB?
Speaker 1: Smooth?
Speaker 2: Oh JB? By the way, would have never gotten that? Yeah,
Speaker 2: ab JB?
Speaker 1: Who will be on?
Speaker 2: I haven't had him on yet. It's just occurring to me.
Speaker 1: He didn't come on until I think season six alright.
Speaker 2: Yet, which, by the way, I look forward to that.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: We love him anyway. So Larry reluctantly helps them, and
Speaker 1: they they talk about the grape juice being a great
Speaker 1: antioxidant and underrated juice, and then Ethel the wife says, Larry,
Speaker 1: did you know that a sex offender moved into the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw his picture on a flyer.
Speaker 1: I know it's terrible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a ball guy too. Bald guy, Yeah, a
Speaker 2: bald guy. It's very bad for the bald community.
Speaker 1: Larry. What's very bad for the community is that he's a.
Speaker 2: Six of I know, as long as it's going to
Speaker 2: be a sex offender, I wish he had a full
Speaker 2: out of hair.
Speaker 1: That's all Larry.
Speaker 2: A phrase that's never caught on with the show, which
Speaker 2: is used repeatedly, and I find it so amusing. Is
Speaker 2: the bald community, the ball community, bald community. It's like,
Speaker 2: what was the Big Johnson community?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that was JB.
Speaker 2: That was the only other time we used a quote community.
Speaker 2: But the Big Johnson and the Ball to me, I
Speaker 2: wonder if those communities ever do outreach programs.
Speaker 1: I don't think that they're that cohesive, especially the Big
Speaker 1: Johnson community.
Speaker 2: Well, by the way, you know who the who runs
Speaker 2: the Big Johnson community.
Speaker 1: Let yeah, yeah, exactly. So Larry established he hasn't gotten
Speaker 1: his paper in six days. And Ethel saw the guy
Speaker 1: who took Larry's paper. He was a man in a
Speaker 1: suit who came.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's horse Cock Johnson. By the way, I
Speaker 2: don't I think it.
Speaker 1: Is Horsecott Johnson. It was a man in a suit,
Speaker 1: and it was not Horsecock Johnson. It was a man
Speaker 1: in a suit. Horsecot Johnson doesn't necessarily wear a suit.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, you're bringing it back to this episode when
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I just am going back.
Speaker 1: And Larry said, if you saw the guy again who
Speaker 1: took the paper, would you recognize him? And Ethel believes
Speaker 1: that she would. And then we cut to Larry and
Speaker 1: Jeff leaving a cafe and he's telling you about a
Speaker 1: guy in a suit stealing his paper and You're like,
Speaker 1: that makes no sense. You know, why does a guy
Speaker 1: in a suit? What's the motivation? You say, what's the motivation?
Speaker 1: And then Larry asked you you're coming to the Sator.
Speaker 1: He's making the Sator for his father, and you say
Speaker 1: to Cheryl, if you know what she's doing. It turns
Speaker 1: out Susie is helping Cheryl, and Susie's sister and brother
Speaker 1: in law and their kid are in town and the
Speaker 1: brother in law is a big time conservative and Larry says,
Speaker 1: bring them all to the Sator.
Speaker 2: This episode has a lot of great scenes with you
Speaker 2: and your sister is there even a moment.
Speaker 1: No, not really, so he says, Larry says, bring them
Speaker 1: all to the sator and then you leave and we've established.
Speaker 2: Well you changed the sign behind you every podcast.
Speaker 1: Every couple okay, when I remember, when I remember, I
Speaker 1: only have three. And then Larry's at a newspaper box,
Speaker 1: you know the boxes that are on the street. You
Speaker 1: put the money in and you lift the thing up,
Speaker 1: and they never work, and they're not working for him.
Speaker 1: He puts his money in and he's banging on a
Speaker 1: banging on it. And then a bold man comes over,
Speaker 1: very very affable and smiley, which is.
Speaker 2: The actor, by the way, playing it all he has
Speaker 2: to do. By the way, Rob Rob Cardro We just
Speaker 2: you just said. I was talking over it. But Rob
Speaker 2: is the most affable, upbeat gentleman you could ever meet.
Speaker 1: And it's terrifically funny, as we shall continue to see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we give you.
Speaker 3: A hand with that.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, let me I'll go.
Speaker 2: I don't even care. I'm not you know what. I
Speaker 2: don't even care how to do it.
Speaker 1: I got the touch.
Speaker 3: I don't even need to watch, watch, watch, I just
Speaker 3: know how to do it.
Speaker 2: I know this machine.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, you wont uh, yeah, but I'll close it
Speaker 3: again and pay for it because you know, just good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those machines are really finicky. And Larry looks at
Speaker 1: him and you could tell there's a moment of recognition
Speaker 1: with Larry looks at him and he's like, you want
Speaker 1: me to help. He's like no, no, no, no no no
Speaker 1: no no no no. And then the guy helps him
Speaker 1: and he's like, I've got the touch and it opens easily,
Speaker 1: and Larry says, do you want one? And and he says, now,
Speaker 1: I'll close it again and pay for it. So we're
Speaker 1: establishing that this man who is a sex offender has
Speaker 1: some kind of integrity.
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is the second time I saw Larry
Speaker 2: cast this way, and that is with the Nanny from Hell. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if I mentioned this we were recording.
Speaker 1: No, because you were actually not in that episode that
Speaker 1: we didn't Cherry. Oh, Terry recorded.
Speaker 2: Oh, Cherry took over right. Anyhow, there were three two
Speaker 2: other actors is up for the role. One's going on
Speaker 2: to be very famous. One is a an icon in
Speaker 2: her own right. But Larry said the reason he wanted Sherry,
Speaker 2: who I'm a huge fan of was because the character
Speaker 2: does some despicable things, not despicable, but is insane. And
Speaker 2: also he recommends her to you and I. Therefore she
Speaker 2: has to be light and bouncy and funny, right, And
Speaker 2: it was a good lesson. This is the same thing.
Speaker 2: You don't want to have the guy come off as
Speaker 2: creepy and sinister, right, and Rob Cordrey is Actually it's
Speaker 2: hard to I mean, look whatever, it's hard to imagine that. Well,
Speaker 2: by the way, they don't say pedophile, sexyphene.
Speaker 1: And I actually was looking for that because I didn't
Speaker 1: remember they say sex offender, and you know, sex offender
Speaker 1: could mean so many different things.
Speaker 2: But there's with him and children. But that's other people's interprets.
Speaker 1: That's other people's interpretation. And nobody said pedophile, and nobody
Speaker 1: said rapist. He could have been a guy who was
Speaker 1: caught with porn in some unseemly we don't know exactly.
Speaker 2: Take a step back. Thank god, we're not at a
Speaker 2: point in this current age where you get quote caught
Speaker 2: with porn, now porn in terms of magazines, does it
Speaker 2: he even remotely exists? I mean, even Playboy went out
Speaker 2: of business.
Speaker 1: I was very carefully watching to see if anything happened
Speaker 1: that we found out, and nobody ever said pedophile or child.
Speaker 2: Mollic, No, just sex offender.
Speaker 1: So we don't have a sex offense.
Speaker 2: But he wouldn't be a sex offender if he got
Speaker 2: caught with porn. Susie, you were being very polite.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I don't know what exactly at that time, whatever.
Speaker 2: Something called his cock was involved in some way or another.
Speaker 2: And there's no funnier word, asked John Manferlatti than the
Speaker 2: word cock. The way he says that is very funny.
Speaker 1: So the sex offender does not take a newspaper. And
Speaker 1: then he introduces himself to Larry because he's a huge
Speaker 1: Seinfeld fan and he loved Puffy's shirt and he's a
Speaker 1: how'd you come up with the load talker? He starts
Speaker 1: engaging Larry, and Larry, you know, is very prone to
Speaker 1: responding to flattery.
Speaker 2: Well, Larry loves flattery period real and off. But no, no,
Speaker 2: but even Larry David, the guy lo some very if
Speaker 2: you're specific with something with him. You know that hasn't
Speaker 2: been asked a million times. He gets very excited, such
Speaker 2: as I when people recognize me and tell me how
Speaker 2: much I or the show is meant to them. Wow,
Speaker 2: I am touched every time.
Speaker 1: But in this episode Larry is very responsive to this
Speaker 1: because Larry says, how'd you come up with the low talker?
Speaker 1: And Larry's like, you want to know the truth? I
Speaker 1: was out to dinner with one and this guy says,
Speaker 1: and then you write it down and you put it
Speaker 1: on the TV. And he's so impressed with that. I'm
Speaker 1: not an artist. It's incredible, and he introduced himself as
Speaker 1: Rick left Goowitz.
Speaker 2: Also in the show, the fact that he refers to
Speaker 2: Larry as an artist. Yeah, oh boy, that's amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he introduces himself as Rick Leftgowitz and it's really
Speaker 1: an honor. And Larry welcomes him to the neighborhood. And
Speaker 1: then Larry goes home and Cheryl is making heros it.
Speaker 1: She's chopping up apples, and he says to her, blame
Speaker 1: what he It's an apple and nuts and honey thing
Speaker 1: that you use and.
Speaker 2: By the way, made correctly delicious.
Speaker 1: It is delsous and also it represents what I have
Speaker 1: no idea. I don't know what you're in this sour okay,
Speaker 1: So Larry says to her, look at the little Jew girl,
Speaker 1: and she says, Susie's been coaching her and she's making
Speaker 1: heros it. And Cheryl says, my mother would flip if
Speaker 1: she knew I was doing this, and she says, you people,
Speaker 1: and Larry takes offense to that, so she's like you Jews.
Speaker 1: And it's a nice back and forth, and then she
Speaker 1: tells him that Marla and Mark got back together and
Speaker 1: that they're coming to the Satyr tomorrow. And then he
Speaker 1: tells Cheryl Susie's in laws are coming, and then he realizes.
Speaker 1: Larry realizes that he never followed through with his Christmas
Speaker 1: present to Mark. He got him a subscription to the
Speaker 1: New York Times, and after they broke up, he forgot
Speaker 1: about it and he never followed through with it. Then
Speaker 1: he thinks, huh, I'll bet you Mark is the guy
Speaker 1: who's taking the paper.
Speaker 2: No, think about it, seriously, let's think about it. I
Speaker 2: can't believe it. Mark is stealing the paper. Holy ship,
Speaker 2: don't you say? Look he just how long have we
Speaker 2: not been getting it? Six days? He just moved He
Speaker 2: moved back in with a week ago.
Speaker 3: You just said that, right, who else, who else would
Speaker 3: be doing it?
Speaker 1: It's him? Mark is not stealing our newspaper. No, that
Speaker 1: is the most ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Oh, I think so there. He's a doctor. I think
Speaker 1: he can afford the paper if he wants to get
Speaker 1: a paper here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but not if he's upset. But somebody who promised
Speaker 4: him a gift for Christmas and never follow.
Speaker 1: Through on it, that is so ridiculous. Cheryl pooh poohs him,
Speaker 1: and Larry says, you know what we should do. We
Speaker 1: should invite Mac and Ethel to Satyr. And now we
Speaker 1: know that Larry wants to invite Mac and Ethel to
Speaker 1: Satyr because he wants Ethel to point out that Mark's
Speaker 1: been the one.
Speaker 2: Still, that one we know from the get go.
Speaker 1: Yes, but Cheryl doesn't know this.
Speaker 2: Yes, she does question it, and.
Speaker 1: She's like, I have no idea. You like Mac and
Speaker 1: Ethel so much?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then she describes them as not the happiest
Speaker 2: And then and.
Speaker 1: Then Larry says, if Jews don't have anywhere to go
Speaker 1: for Sator, you're supposed to invite them, which I have
Speaker 1: heard that that's true. Correct, Yes, yes, we'll.
Speaker 4: Be right back, stay tuned, Okay, we're back.
Speaker 1: And then Larry is at the store doing obviously doing
Speaker 1: a bunch of shopping for Sator's stuff, and he's got
Speaker 1: a lot of packages and it's awkward and he runs
Speaker 1: into Rick Lefkowitz again, the sex offender, and Rick says, oh,
Speaker 1: let me give you a hand. He's just so affable.
Speaker 1: And he sees the golf club in Larry's trunk. It
Speaker 1: says four iron and you know Rick Lefkowitz plays golf,
Speaker 1: and Larry says he replaces four iron with a nine
Speaker 1: wood and Rick wants to help him with his golf gar.
Speaker 2: No, no, but what is the exchange they have? He said,
Speaker 2: are you a golfer? And then.
Speaker 1: Breathe and eat? You know something like that.
Speaker 2: No, he says, do I live and breathe and eat?
Speaker 2: And then he goes, that's all after golf or something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: And it was an avid golfer.
Speaker 2: And by the way, that was a great improv right,
Speaker 2: that was a great moment.
Speaker 1: And he tells Larry that in his backyard he's got
Speaker 1: a big setup with the camera to improve a swing.
Speaker 1: And he says, what are you doing right now? Nothing,
Speaker 1: let's go, but Rick Leftwoodz doesn't have a car, so
Speaker 1: he has to get into well.
Speaker 2: Really, no, no, no, but you're missing an important beat,
Speaker 2: which just do you want some Cheetos? And then he
Speaker 2: takes a back of Cheetos. From first off, the idea
Speaker 2: of Larry buying Cheetos is funny. And for those of
Speaker 2: you wondering, they were the crunchy Cheetos, not the puffy.
Speaker 1: And I don't they get all of your face?
Speaker 2: Oh no, I love the crunching ones. But guess what
Speaker 2: can't have them? They're filled with MSGA.
Speaker 1: That's why they're delicious because it's all the soults.
Speaker 2: No MSG.
Speaker 1: Wait, that's the puffy ones. That not Cheetos, those the
Speaker 1: cheese doodles.
Speaker 2: No, the puffy one's different company entirely.
Speaker 1: So they are in the backyard and they're watching in
Speaker 1: slow motion and he sees his hips what it was,
Speaker 1: hips it and it's amazing. His whole golf Swingers has changed.
Speaker 1: It's an A plus. Larry's thrilled, and then Rick says
Speaker 1: to him, what do you do for passover?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm just having some people over.
Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, what are you doing? Nothing? Nothing? Totally free?
Speaker 2: You want to come to my house? No?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 3: Oh well all right, okay, okay, great, great, you don't
Speaker 3: have to know.
Speaker 2: It sounds great.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm got nothing else to do. Sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, thank you. Yeah, I'll bring Lacus.
Speaker 2: Okay, great.
Speaker 1: Great.
Speaker 2: By the way, a couple of things. A couple of things,
Speaker 2: Larry thinks he's gotten away with it because Rick goes,
Speaker 2: I don't know, and Larry goes, okay, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. He moves on. But also, did you recognize
Speaker 2: where that little golf setup was. No, it's around the
Speaker 2: block and Brenton what it's the house we used to
Speaker 2: always have lunch at. Ah, that's where well, actually we
Speaker 2: still did this past. Yes, yes, I'm not mistaken, but
Speaker 2: yeah I was behind there.
Speaker 1: Well, let me just clarify for people. You know, on set,
Speaker 1: you have to feed lunch to one hundred crew members,
Speaker 1: so it's always locations. It's always a major thing to
Speaker 1: find where you're going to have lunch. There was one
Speaker 1: house near our TV house, at Larry's TV house that
Speaker 1: would allow us to use their backyard. I mean would
Speaker 1: set up tables there and have lunch there. Just so
Speaker 1: people know.
Speaker 2: One of the weird not weird things, but unusual things
Speaker 2: is that house that we filmed in was empty, so
Speaker 2: we owned it, and that was kind of like having
Speaker 2: a sound stage that house.
Speaker 1: I mean Larry's house, Larry's house.
Speaker 2: We own that house, you know, owning.
Speaker 1: They didn't own it, they rented it.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 2: the term own means do we own this wherever you film?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah the day.
Speaker 2: We own that for a whole season, which is very unusual.
Speaker 2: If I had, let's say, a puppet collection, I could
Speaker 2: keep it in the basement there. Nothing would happen.
Speaker 1: You know, our house this particular season, I have no
Speaker 1: memory of.
Speaker 2: It is a very fine house.
Speaker 1: I have no memory of that house. We've had so
Speaker 1: many houses this season, this season that we're doing now,
Speaker 1: season five, we've had so many houses.
Speaker 2: It was it was in the palace. No, this was
Speaker 2: like one of the ones that was a season or
Speaker 2: two or whatever. Yeah, yeah, I remember it.
Speaker 1: But so Larry goes home and Cheryl says, what took
Speaker 1: you so long? He tells her about this guy. He
Speaker 1: met this guy and he changes golf the thing and
Speaker 1: it changed his life. And he says he invited him
Speaker 1: to Satya and Cherff's like, oh, that's so sweet of you.
Speaker 1: He's alone that was so kind of you. And then
Speaker 1: Larry says, I forgot to mention.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, hold on, we think the scene
Speaker 2: is over. He walks up the stairs. Halfway up the
Speaker 2: stairs is when he says, oh, by the.
Speaker 1: Way, way I know what, he's a sex defender.
Speaker 2: I thought as I was watching it, I thought, if
Speaker 2: any one of us was in that situation, will we
Speaker 2: even bring up sex offender? You know, which, by the way,
Speaker 2: is funny the way you defend her.
Speaker 1: Whoever she would have known because the flyer's been out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah when he arrived, but not a minute before. But
Speaker 2: also I think that's the angriest I ever saw her at. Larry.
Speaker 1: Oh God, she's well, I don't blame her. You do
Speaker 1: not invite a sex offender over for dinner without talking
Speaker 1: to me first. And Larry says to her, Cheryl, what
Speaker 1: would Jesus do?
Speaker 2: And that, by the way, that completely shut her up,
Speaker 2: which was really funny.
Speaker 1: And then he says he's a Jew, He's a Jew,
Speaker 1: He's a Jew. And then we hear the Klasman music
Speaker 1: and it is the It's the Satyr and Larry is
Speaker 1: talking to my brother in law, who is Steven Tobolowski. Now,
Speaker 1: why don't you talk about Stephen Tobolowski, because I know
Speaker 1: you know him much better than Jimen.
Speaker 2: Tobolowski is a character actor. You know ned ned Ryerson
Speaker 2: if you remember him from groundhog Day. That was probably
Speaker 2: my favorite role he ever did. Ironically, I auditioned for
Speaker 2: that role amongst a few others in Groundhog Day, and
Speaker 2: obviously I did not get it, but he was on
Speaker 2: the Goldbergs with me. He played the principal of the school.
Speaker 2: But I'm talking about the guy that I've known since
Speaker 2: the eighties, who is a He's one of the great
Speaker 2: comedic character actors in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Terrific he is. And he starts going into Larry about
Speaker 1: the theory of seventy seven.
Speaker 5: Every seventy seven years there's a great president Washington. And
Speaker 5: then you go seventy seven years, seventy seven years, Yeah,
Speaker 5: there's what's that guy's name, FDFDR, And then another seventy
Speaker 5: seven years you got w really, and then I think
Speaker 5: we're in.
Speaker 2: Historic Washington, Lincoln FDR and George W. Bush.
Speaker 5: That's right, and we're turning the whole damn world around.
Speaker 1: How every seventy seven years is a great President Washington.
Speaker 1: This was not in the outline really though, I don't
Speaker 1: think so.
Speaker 2: No, it's too absurd to be in the outline. And
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: So it's like Washington, Lincoln, FDR, and then George W.
Speaker 1: Bush every seventy seven years turn and he's like, we're
Speaker 1: turning the whole damn world around.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And by the way, really quite extraordinary, you know,
Speaker 2: because and that was before all the conspiracy theorist stuff.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. This was when it really was absurdism,
Speaker 2: if you will, you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, Then his wife, my sister, says, did you remember
Speaker 1: to call your mother? And Larry walks away, and he
Speaker 1: and Jeff, Larry and Jeff you just exchanged looks of
Speaker 1: like whoa this guy? Whoa?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then Larry walks over to Mark, who was played
Speaker 1: by Rob. Do you pronounce it hubble or Hubele? I
Speaker 1: never know, Belle h Bell Bell.
Speaker 2: Rob is one of my favorite people and makes he's
Speaker 2: one of all right in my book, I'm not talking
Speaker 2: about out there, but in terms of making me and
Speaker 2: by the way, he does make people laugh and he's
Speaker 2: very popular, but.
Speaker 1: For me, he's transparent. He was on the lead things.
Speaker 2: Yes, But that being said, he's one of those guys
Speaker 2: that has my number. And there are certain people like
Speaker 2: Zach Galfanakis who I never ask, like, can you do
Speaker 2: that joke again? But when I watch him do stand up,
Speaker 2: he destroys me. And in film, huh yeah. As a
Speaker 2: matter of fact, a very underrated movie is I think
Speaker 2: called Is That the Candidate the Election with Will Ferrell
Speaker 2: and Zach galfan Akis. Jay Roach directed it, and Zach
Speaker 2: is so funny in that movie. Anyhow, Rob Hubell is
Speaker 2: one of those people that just has my number. So
Speaker 2: what I did to him on set, which he has
Speaker 2: never forgotten, would be we'd all be sitting at the
Speaker 2: passover table and I would go, Rob, tell them that
Speaker 2: story of when you worked at the Oceanarium, and he
Speaker 2: would make up a story, well, you know, and the
Speaker 2: way he would do it, like the way he played
Speaker 2: characters when he said, Larry, I'm a doctor, with that
Speaker 2: kind of seriousness, he would tell the story. I must
Speaker 2: have did it to him while we were working a
Speaker 2: dozen times and there wasn't one time where it didn't
Speaker 2: drive me to tears. And then after he was done,
Speaker 2: he'd go Jeff Garland with like a nod, like to
Speaker 2: everyone like, why do you think I just did that?
Speaker 2: You know that feeling? Except you always say no.
Speaker 1: I don't say no, I just ignore you. Okay, all right.
Speaker 1: So Larry says to Mark it's nice to see him
Speaker 1: and Marla back together, and then he asks him, you
Speaker 1: know you're a doctor. Do you see a lot of
Speaker 1: naked women? And Mark says I'm a cosmetic surgeon. Yes,
Speaker 1: And Larry says, you ever get aroused? And he finds
Speaker 1: out a very inappropriate question. He's a professional. And then
Speaker 1: Larry says.
Speaker 2: Tell me if you think this is an appropriate question. Huh,
Speaker 2: I mean no disrespect. Have you been stealing my newspaper? Yes,
Speaker 2: that is an inappropriate qu so that's true inappropriate questions.
Speaker 1: But I have not stealing your newspaper, Larry, that's appalling.
Speaker 5: Really yeah, really, Larry, I'm quite sure I haven't been
Speaker 5: taking it.
Speaker 2: Are you positive? Mark?
Speaker 1: Have you been stealing my newspaper? And again an inappropriate question,
Speaker 1: and they have a stare down, and then Jeff will.
Speaker 2: By the way, this is one of my favorite staredowns
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, in the history of the show. Yes,
Speaker 2: but you know, I've never been a fan of the
Speaker 2: stairdown until the rewatching of it. And now they all
Speaker 2: kill me.
Speaker 1: Well, some of them work and some of them don't.
Speaker 2: I think, Actually I think by the way, I disagree.
Speaker 2: As I've been watching the show, every one of them
Speaker 2: has made me laugh pretty heartily, if you will.
Speaker 1: Good. Yeah, So you and Larry start talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: the brother in law, and I walk over with Sammy
Speaker 1: and we all discuss a he's quite a piece of work,
Speaker 1: the brother in law and blah blah, and Rick enters,
Speaker 1: Rick Lefkowitz enters.
Speaker 2: Well, lock at the door, and Larry opens it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: look at this boy, Oh boy, how are you great?
Speaker 2: How you doing very good? Good to see it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is nice. Yeah, this is one of my least
Speaker 2: favorite moments on these shows. That is just unnatural. Infuriates me.
Speaker 2: It literally does. And I say, we shouldn't. Why are
Speaker 2: we shooting this like this? And that is everyone. Once
Speaker 2: he enters, everyone is in shock. Now everyone includes people
Speaker 2: who don't live in the neighborhood, like your your brother
Speaker 2: in law and your sister and the children. They've got
Speaker 2: the children involved. Everyone is looking with their mouths aghast,
Speaker 2: and they're all staged in a semi circle, and it's like,
Speaker 2: give me a fucking break, it's so false. Those things
Speaker 2: really infuriate me.
Speaker 1: See if they don't infuriate me, because I feel like
Speaker 1: it's a comedic license moments, a bad license for a comedic.
Speaker 1: So everybody stares at him, and Larry's like, this guy
Speaker 1: completely changed my life. So I pulled Larry aside and
Speaker 1: I just say, what the hell are you trying to
Speaker 1: pull Larry? And he's like, he has nowhere to go.
Speaker 1: He's a good addition, he's got a great personality, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, he should not be in our presence on
Speaker 1: a holy day. And then the doorbell rings and macinnethe
Speaker 1: will come in and Max starts complaining everybody parked in
Speaker 1: front of my house, and Ethel takes a look around
Speaker 1: the room.
Speaker 2: He's very angry that everyone is parked in front of
Speaker 2: his and Larry says, you're here, and what is it better.
Speaker 1: Place now? Because he's just a question. He's just a nobody.
Speaker 2: By the way, that's really funny and I believed it now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Larry says to her.
Speaker 1: Take a look around the room. Is there anybody that
Speaker 1: you recognize?
Speaker 2: Now? When we cut to the room, it's different people
Speaker 2: in conversation, which is what it should have been before
Speaker 2: when the what you know, what you'll call it enters
Speaker 2: Now we don't.
Speaker 1: Know, you know.
Speaker 2: She gets to the robs, okay, who are talking the
Speaker 2: two robs and she but I don't know what they're
Speaker 2: talking about, the plastic surgeon and the sex offender, but
Speaker 2: they're having a conversation, and then she.
Speaker 1: Sees the sex offense what we know.
Speaker 2: As a sex offender, but it could be the other one.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't think so. I think she's upset
Speaker 1: about the sex offense.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, yeah, that's what we know. She's looking yet,
Speaker 2: But Larry is like, is she shocked at seeing which one?
Speaker 2: And I think he pretty much knows, but that's why
Speaker 2: he keeps on wanting to wake her up so she
Speaker 2: can say she wants.
Speaker 1: To wake her up so she could identify Rob. He
Speaker 1: doesn't give a sex offen. Yes, yes, So Ethel sees
Speaker 1: the sex offender and faints, and then they all carry
Speaker 1: her up to the room and Rob checks on her,
Speaker 1: and she'll be out for a couple of hours, and
Speaker 1: Larry's snapping in front of her face and clapping and
Speaker 1: you know, trying to wake her up.
Speaker 4: We'll be right back, stay tuned.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're back, And then we cut to the Sator
Speaker 1: and Shelley is reading the Hagada and I remember this
Speaker 1: day that Shelley had. By the way down.
Speaker 2: The way, you said, the Hagada is so Jewish that
Speaker 2: how could people not assume that you're very Jewish?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not religious in any way.
Speaker 2: Well, by the way, you know what, you don't come
Speaker 2: off religious, and it's obvious is in the next episode,
Speaker 2: Oh yes, you don't.
Speaker 1: I remember this this episode. I was so pissed off
Speaker 1: at Shelley because the prop people are putting the Sator
Speaker 1: together and they were a Christian, both of them, Ane
Speaker 1: Marie and Dort At Dort who once said to you,
Speaker 1: what's a yard moulky when he had to get yam
Speaker 1: because it was like a prior probably you know, when
Speaker 1: we were doing the High Holy Days. He didn't even
Speaker 1: know what a yamica was.
Speaker 2: And to say that the guy's never even seen he's
Speaker 2: probably seen him and not not questions.
Speaker 1: I know what it is, but I remember he said,
Speaker 1: what's the yard multi? Anyway, they mistakenly put meat and
Speaker 1: dairy on the same way.
Speaker 2: Ironically, he knew what a kep was, isn't that crazy
Speaker 2: was but knew what to keep it was.
Speaker 1: And they put meat and dairy on the same plate
Speaker 1: because they didn't know. They didn't know, And Shelley got
Speaker 1: so nasty with them, yelling and screaming at them. He
Speaker 1: really kissed me off that day. For god, he really pissed.
Speaker 1: Oh my God, made a mistake.
Speaker 2: I remember so clearly, but I completely forgot that he
Speaker 2: lost his ship, which, by the way, he is in
Speaker 2: the next episode, you know, another version of.
Speaker 1: Him, Yes, another version of that. But that was funny.
Speaker 1: But this, this was completely inappropriate of him to get
Speaker 1: so angry at these prop people.
Speaker 2: They were just doing their Jokelly was an old man.
Speaker 1: It pissed me off, by the way, an old man.
Speaker 2: And you know, Shelley has a history of being what
Speaker 2: us Jews call him mashuk. Yeah. And he was a
Speaker 2: comedic genius who sometimes got a little bit cristy.
Speaker 1: If I'm giving a tidbit.
Speaker 2: So see you say something funny, I laughed, So I
Speaker 2: guess nothing I'm saying is funny.
Speaker 1: So Larry says, I laugh. Sometimes Larry says, get ready, kids,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hide the matza, and whoever finds the matsa
Speaker 1: is gonna get a dollar. And Larry goes to hide it.
Speaker 2: And by the way, if I may, the mistake Larry makes,
Speaker 2: which a lot of adults do it pass Over. And
Speaker 2: one of the things is that we do at Passover,
Speaker 2: which as a kid I loved and I do remember
Speaker 2: somebody cheating in one of the You find the matza,
Speaker 2: you get a dollar. That's always been probably today even
Speaker 2: you find the maza, you get a dollar, or maybe
Speaker 2: now it's you find the maza, you get an iPhone.
Speaker 2: An iPhone now in the in the houses on the
Speaker 2: west side. But Larry puts it in a drawer. You
Speaker 2: want to leave it wasn't.
Speaker 1: Wasn't.
Speaker 2: The proper hide is where it's out in the open.
Speaker 2: But you probably won't notice it because kids shouldn't be
Speaker 2: going through.
Speaker 1: Okay, can I tell you? Can I tell you my
Speaker 1: matza story because it was the true way.
Speaker 2: Let's take a step back. You're saying that as if
Speaker 2: we all have maatza stories.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna tell you my matza story, whether you have.
Speaker 2: I don't have a manza story. Most people don't have.
Speaker 2: I've enjoyed mazza. I like putting butter on a lightly
Speaker 2: salted matza. But that masa, my mom's called fried matza.
Speaker 2: I didn't know it was manza bride till years later.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying about my house. Although we were
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: So so I'm five years old.
Speaker 2: Is this your manza story? Excuse me for interrupting, this
Speaker 2: is your maza.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's my matza story. I'm five years old and
Speaker 1: my mother, my mother didn't just hide one piece of masa.
Speaker 1: She hired h so all over the house, so everybody
Speaker 1: got to find the matza, so nobody was left out.
Speaker 1: And I was the youngest. All my cousins and siblings
Speaker 1: were older than me. So everybody goes to my grandfather
Speaker 1: with the matsa, and he gave them each five dollars.
Speaker 1: And I was five years old, and he gives me
Speaker 1: a dollar. And then I see my cousin Debbie has
Speaker 1: a five. And I went over to my grandfather and
Speaker 1: I was like, how come she has a five and
Speaker 1: you only gave me a dollar? And he went, aha,
Speaker 1: oh that was a mistake. And I knew he was lying.
Speaker 1: The motherfucker. I knew he was lying and he was
Speaker 1: just being cheap with me. I tried to save four
Speaker 1: dollars because I was only five years old, and I
Speaker 1: never liked him from that moment on.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a step back. That's not a
Speaker 2: Mata story. That's a broken relationship with a grandparent.
Speaker 1: Correct over Matsa, which, by the.
Speaker 2: Way, Mata's story could be a sort of pseudonym for
Speaker 2: a grandfather. And by the way, in all sincerity, did
Speaker 2: you ever get along with him after that?
Speaker 1: No, I didn't like him. After I got along with him, fine,
Speaker 1: but I didn't like him and I didn't trust him.
Speaker 2: So through a huh, four dollars.
Speaker 1: Heships relationship with his gram And don't think children are stupid.
Speaker 1: They're really smart one and they know exactly what's going on.
Speaker 2: There's only one thing you shouldn't do with children, and
Speaker 2: that's sarcasm, because they kids don't get sarcasm. You know,
Speaker 2: they're they're very literal. I mean, yeah, they are.
Speaker 1: But I knew he was. It was a mistake.
Speaker 2: I knew he was a douchebag. Do you know that?
Speaker 2: Later that afternoon, I got in the fistfight with him.
Speaker 2: I did so, and then they had to be four
Speaker 2: dollars for a fight. Well fought four dollars.
Speaker 1: So Larry hides the matza in the drawer and the
Speaker 1: brother in law is walking out of the bathroom and
Speaker 1: sees where Larry hid the matza at that moment, and
Speaker 1: then he's okay. Kids start looking and Larry sits back down,
Speaker 1: and Max says to him, any luck with finding the
Speaker 1: guy stealing your paper? And Larry says, no luck at all,
Speaker 1: and the Max says, you know, my wife got a
Speaker 1: really good look. She never forgets a face, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Mark starts to get choked. He starts
Speaker 1: to choke. Hopefully she'll wake up soon. And the kids
Speaker 1: are looking for the masa in the bedroom where Ethel
Speaker 1: is asleep, passed out, and Larry walks in. He says,
Speaker 1: all right, kids, beat it, no matza here, and he's
Speaker 1: trying to wake her up. He's jumping on the pet
Speaker 1: and he's playing congos. I don't know where the congas came.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's just take take a step back again. The
Speaker 2: idea that Larry David has congas in the guest room.
Speaker 2: This stuff always irritated the fuck out of me because look,
Speaker 2: there are like you know where you start to go. Okay,
Speaker 2: come on, let's just let that go. Larry David playing congas,
Speaker 2: by the way, always a funny visual, but again, what
Speaker 2: show is this? It's just the tone is off, and I.
Speaker 1: Get I have a conga in my office. Jeff bet
Speaker 1: she didn't know that.
Speaker 2: I did not know that. But if we knew that,
Speaker 2: never mind.
Speaker 1: Anyway, he's trying to wake her up. She's out, and
Speaker 1: then he goes back down to the table and he lies.
Speaker 1: He says that Ethel should be down soon, and Mac
Speaker 1: was like, what was all the noise? And Larr's all,
Speaker 1: my foot fell asleep, and all of a sudden, Mark
Speaker 1: looks at his pager and he has to go, and
Speaker 1: Larry's like, very suspicious, he didn't hear anything.
Speaker 2: Well, no, by the way, I love his excuse. I
Speaker 2: keep the volume very low, Larry.
Speaker 1: Yes, and it's on vibrate And Larry's like, aren't you
Speaker 1: a cosmetic surgeon. He's like, I have an emergency. I
Speaker 1: have to go.
Speaker 2: As I explained, I've been paged by this emergency, boob job,
Speaker 2: no doubt.
Speaker 1: I've been paged for a medical emergency because I am
Speaker 1: a doctor.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, you're a doctor. Yes, yes, of
Speaker 2: course you're a doctor. It's a medical situation. Yet you're
Speaker 2: ucky that old lady fainted.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: I know you did.
Speaker 1: I'm a doctor, you idiot, and he leaves. Then Rick
Speaker 1: wants to speak privately. Rick the sex offender wants to
Speaker 1: speak privately to Larry and he's got a difficult moral quandary.
Speaker 2: By the way, for me, the moments with Rick are
Speaker 2: the funniest in the show. Oh hilarious, No, no, but
Speaker 2: Rob does a great job. But in terms of tone,
Speaker 2: the curb tone, and the irony of him being a
Speaker 2: sex offender partnering up with Larry, these are the best moments.
Speaker 2: And my two favorite moments are this and what follows.
Speaker 2: So go with this.
Speaker 1: So Rick is like he's in a moral quandary and
Speaker 1: he's very serious, and Larry's like, I'm not the right
Speaker 1: person to talk to and Rick was, I saw something shocking, And.
Speaker 2: Then that's what piqued Larry's interest. Yes, sir, he's saying
Speaker 2: something about being a sex offender, right, And then he's like,
Speaker 2: what what happened at my house?
Speaker 1: And he said he saw the father whisper something in
Speaker 1: Stevie's ear, and then right after that, Stevie found the
Speaker 1: matza and Larry's like, okay, I'll take it from here.
Speaker 1: He's very you know, he's going to take care of this,
Speaker 1: and Larry sits back down and Stevie as for his dollar,
Speaker 1: and Larry's you know what made you go back to
Speaker 1: the bookcase the second time? Stevie and his father's like,
Speaker 1: pay up with that accent. He found the maza, so
Speaker 1: pay up, and like, Larry's you told her where it was?
Speaker 1: And how do you know? My friend told me and said.
Speaker 2: Nobody, No, you told him where it was. How do
Speaker 2: you know? He turns to Rob. This is my favorite
Speaker 2: moment in the host show, and Rob reluctantly like it
Speaker 2: needs to be done. He gives him a nod, and
Speaker 2: it needs to be done. I love the little things
Speaker 2: like the Sun episode, like where Phil Rosenthal when Kevin
Speaker 2: Neeling comes rushing in and then Phil just looks up
Speaker 2: at it. I took an orange and it's just perfect perfection.
Speaker 1: And then I think it's the brother in law, says
Speaker 1: your friend, the convicted sex offender.
Speaker 2: My friend told me.
Speaker 1: That's how I know he saw your whisper in your
Speaker 1: son's ear and then washed as he ran to the
Speaker 1: bookcase and dams.
Speaker 2: Oh, your friend, the convicted sex offender. You your.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, is something wrong with Sammy? Sammy?
Speaker 2: Get up?
Speaker 1: Get up? What's the matter, honey? What is it? She
Speaker 1: can't read, she can't reread? Does anyone know? Mouth to mouth?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 1: And then all hell breaks loose and everybody says and
Speaker 1: then suddenly Sammy, who's at the kids table, is choking.
Speaker 1: She can't breathe, and I'm like, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, does
Speaker 1: anyone no mouth to mouth?
Speaker 2: And Rick says, I do, And then what happens at
Speaker 2: that moment everyone stops and stares at him as the
Speaker 2: little girl.
Speaker 1: Sammy's still choking.
Speaker 2: I see, this is the ship that makes me fucking nuts.
Speaker 2: All right, well it's a comedy. We guess we can't
Speaker 2: have a real choking child.
Speaker 1: But well she lived because we know she's in future.
Speaker 2: She also faked having a bone and yeah.
Speaker 1: Then it's it's the next morning and his paper is
Speaker 1: there down on the front steps. He opens the paper
Speaker 1: and he sees an article in the bottom of the fold.
Speaker 1: It says emergency surgery to reattach hand doctor leaves Sader. Okay,
Speaker 1: not the greatest end.
Speaker 2: No, no, it's for an ending. No, but I believe,
Speaker 2: like I give up, like that's not gonna make the
Speaker 2: front page, but for comedic purposes, I'm okay with that
Speaker 2: being on the front page. I just hate when Bond
Speaker 2: goes and children choking like people in a neat semi
Speaker 2: circle staring. And by the way, what made me really
Speaker 2: upset about the steering is I mentioned is the fact
Speaker 2: that a lot of those people didn't know he was
Speaker 2: the sex offender, and that I just get all right.
Speaker 1: You know what, Jeff, I know that this was not
Speaker 1: your favorite. I enjoyed this episode, but I guarantee you
Speaker 1: that you're gonna love the next episode that we well.
Speaker 2: By the way, because I know it's one of our favorites,
Speaker 2: and also it's I would say it's in our top
Speaker 2: five in terms of fan favorites.
Speaker 1: And I also believe me, never hold on.
Speaker 2: I've heard that term for years. I never thought I
Speaker 2: would say fan favorite also describing my show fan our
Speaker 2: show fan favorite. But it is a fan favorite.
Speaker 1: It is a fat and it's a Larry David favorite.
Speaker 1: And you'll have to come listen to us next week
Speaker 1: to find out what it is.
Speaker 2: Please do and I appreciate you listening.
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