1 00:00:15,410 --> 00:00:25,170 Speaker 1: Pushkin. This is the second of two episodes about Elizabethan's 2 00:00:25,210 --> 00:00:31,450 Speaker 1: scholar John D. Last episode, D's predictions secured the favor 3 00:00:31,570 --> 00:00:36,010 Speaker 1: of Queen Elizabeth, but a scheme he backed to find 4 00:00:36,130 --> 00:00:45,330 Speaker 1: the Northwest Passage ended in humiliation. At the castle of 5 00:00:45,450 --> 00:00:50,530 Speaker 1: Treybon in southern Bohemia, a plume of thick gray smoke 6 00:00:50,890 --> 00:00:54,370 Speaker 1: rises from the roof of the gatehouse. The year is 7 00:00:54,490 --> 00:01:01,770 Speaker 1: fifteen eighty six, and inside an experiment is underway. A 8 00:01:01,810 --> 00:01:06,130 Speaker 1: glass vessel shaped like an egg sits atop a furnace. 9 00:01:06,810 --> 00:01:11,250 Speaker 1: A young man wearing a cowl hunches over it, feeding 10 00:01:11,410 --> 00:01:15,730 Speaker 1: charcoal into the stack. He's been doing this for weeks now, 11 00:01:16,250 --> 00:01:21,530 Speaker 1: at regular and frequent intervals. In the time before thermometers, 12 00:01:21,970 --> 00:01:26,970 Speaker 1: controlling temperature is a delicate art. This furnace and the 13 00:01:27,010 --> 00:01:32,530 Speaker 1: glass egg on top must remain at a constant. At 14 00:01:32,530 --> 00:01:35,210 Speaker 1: the other end of the room is an older man, 15 00:01:36,170 --> 00:01:42,770 Speaker 1: John D, the famous mathematician. John D is focusing intently 16 00:01:43,170 --> 00:01:48,170 Speaker 1: on the glass vessel, quill scratching into parchment as he 17 00:01:48,250 --> 00:01:51,810 Speaker 1: takes notes. He's hoping to see a change in the 18 00:01:51,890 --> 00:01:58,690 Speaker 1: mysterious white matter inside it. No, he's willing it to change, 19 00:01:58,930 --> 00:02:02,970 Speaker 1: to turn deep red a sure sign that they're on 20 00:02:03,050 --> 00:02:09,970 Speaker 1: the right path. Their backer, the nobleman who owns traybon cars, 21 00:02:09,970 --> 00:02:17,810 Speaker 1: needs results. D himself has bet everything, his career, his standing, 22 00:02:18,570 --> 00:02:23,210 Speaker 1: his home on this venture, and the cow clad man 23 00:02:23,650 --> 00:02:28,250 Speaker 1: hunched over the furnace. They've been iterating with all sorts 24 00:02:28,290 --> 00:02:35,730 Speaker 1: of ingredients, salts, earth, suspended in water, horse manure, menstrual blood. 25 00:02:36,730 --> 00:02:40,930 Speaker 1: They're objective to bring forth a substance that has been 26 00:02:41,010 --> 00:02:47,250 Speaker 1: sought for centuries, but seldom, if ever obtained, a substance 27 00:02:47,330 --> 00:02:51,730 Speaker 1: so powerful that it can force base metal into gold 28 00:02:51,850 --> 00:02:56,410 Speaker 1: and even keep a man from death. John D and 29 00:02:56,450 --> 00:03:03,370 Speaker 1: his associate are searching for the fabled Philosopher's Stone. A 30 00:03:03,530 --> 00:03:09,890 Speaker 1: chill autumn wind whips around the castle walls, whistling through 31 00:03:09,970 --> 00:03:15,810 Speaker 1: cracks in the masonry. John D puts down his quill 32 00:03:16,890 --> 00:03:33,210 Speaker 1: and waits, I'm Tim Harford, and you're listening to cautionary tales. 33 00:03:47,970 --> 00:03:51,850 Speaker 1: John D believed that numbers held the key to the universe, 34 00:03:52,450 --> 00:03:56,690 Speaker 1: and he'd bet on navigation and exploration as the tools 35 00:03:56,730 --> 00:04:02,010 Speaker 1: to reveal its hidden architecture. Around his fiftieth birthday, he 36 00:04:02,090 --> 00:04:06,090 Speaker 1: had championed a mission to find the Northwest Passage. When 37 00:04:06,130 --> 00:04:12,450 Speaker 1: it failed, D was devastated. He lost his reputation, his money, 38 00:04:13,170 --> 00:04:19,090 Speaker 1: and his self confidence. Seeking a second chance at unraveling 39 00:04:19,210 --> 00:04:26,850 Speaker 1: nature's secrets, he turned to the world of spirits. Good 40 00:04:26,930 --> 00:04:31,690 Speaker 1: Christians believed in angels and in their ability to see 41 00:04:31,730 --> 00:04:37,010 Speaker 1: the future. It was more transgressive, though, to actively seek 42 00:04:37,050 --> 00:04:41,530 Speaker 1: their advice. The people who did this were called scriers. 43 00:04:42,450 --> 00:04:45,930 Speaker 1: They would speak to angels and spirits by looking into 44 00:04:45,970 --> 00:04:49,730 Speaker 1: a shiny showstone, such as a mirror or a crystal ball. 45 00:04:50,930 --> 00:04:56,170 Speaker 1: Since scrying meant bypassing the church, it wasn't uncommon to 46 00:04:56,250 --> 00:04:59,610 Speaker 1: find that a scrier was on the run, and because 47 00:04:59,610 --> 00:05:03,930 Speaker 1: of their sensitivity to the occult, they also tended to 48 00:05:03,930 --> 00:05:09,370 Speaker 1: be rather eccentric. Dee's first scrying partner ended up in 49 00:05:09,450 --> 00:05:15,410 Speaker 1: court facing criminal charges. But then a mysterious stranger appeared 50 00:05:15,450 --> 00:05:21,690 Speaker 1: at D's door under portentous skies of deep arterial red. 51 00:05:23,290 --> 00:05:28,130 Speaker 1: The stranger introduced himself as Edward Talbot, a distant kin 52 00:05:28,330 --> 00:05:33,010 Speaker 1: to the Talbot Earls of Shrewsbury. He was young, walked 53 00:05:33,010 --> 00:05:35,650 Speaker 1: with the aid of a staff, and kept his head 54 00:05:36,010 --> 00:05:40,090 Speaker 1: covered by a hood. He also seemed to be intelligent 55 00:05:40,210 --> 00:05:45,570 Speaker 1: and better educated than the average sqrire. There was something 56 00:05:46,610 --> 00:05:51,850 Speaker 1: captivating about him. D decided to give him a chance. 57 00:05:53,770 --> 00:05:59,330 Speaker 1: In March fifteen eighty two, Talbot knelt in D's study 58 00:05:59,930 --> 00:06:05,090 Speaker 1: amid stacks of books and manuscripts and peered into a dark, 59 00:06:05,690 --> 00:06:12,930 Speaker 1: gleaming mirror. Himself retreated to a nearby room to pray. 60 00:06:15,570 --> 00:06:19,610 Speaker 1: A few minutes later, he heard Talbot cry out, and 61 00:06:19,690 --> 00:06:26,010 Speaker 1: he hurried back. The angel Uriel had made contact. D 62 00:06:26,410 --> 00:06:30,010 Speaker 1: was hooked, and he wasted no time in asking Uriel 63 00:06:30,610 --> 00:06:37,010 Speaker 1: via Talbot about the mysterious angelic language, a lost tongue 64 00:06:37,570 --> 00:06:41,730 Speaker 1: encoded in a divine cipher that was believed to mirror 65 00:06:41,770 --> 00:06:48,890 Speaker 1: the structure of creation. Talbot's next revelation was extraordinary. The 66 00:06:49,330 --> 00:06:56,610 Speaker 1: archangel Michael would help D recover the angelic language. D 67 00:06:56,970 --> 00:07:02,170 Speaker 1: was awestruck. If this was true, it would unlock the 68 00:07:02,210 --> 00:07:06,290 Speaker 1: price that he had long sought the hidden workings of 69 00:07:06,330 --> 00:07:11,290 Speaker 1: the universe, and he would be instrumental in restoring lost 70 00:07:11,370 --> 00:07:15,890 Speaker 1: knowledge to humanity. What must I do to have the 71 00:07:15,970 --> 00:07:20,650 Speaker 1: sight and presence of Michael, the blessed Angel? 72 00:07:22,730 --> 00:07:28,330 Speaker 2: In voke our presence with sincerity. These things are revealed 73 00:07:28,450 --> 00:07:31,010 Speaker 2: in virtue, not by force. 74 00:07:33,210 --> 00:07:40,970 Speaker 1: D was grateful and relieved Talbot was reporting exactly what 75 00:07:41,130 --> 00:07:47,570 Speaker 1: he'd hoped for. Talbot's sudden appearance in Mortlake raised a 76 00:07:47,570 --> 00:07:52,010 Speaker 1: few eyebrows. His past was murky, and some of the 77 00:07:52,090 --> 00:07:57,050 Speaker 1: villagers said that he was wanted for forging documents. Forgery 78 00:07:57,290 --> 00:08:02,010 Speaker 1: carried a lasting punishment, the brutal clipping of the ears. 79 00:08:03,010 --> 00:08:07,650 Speaker 1: Talbot always kept his ears carefully hidden beneath his cowl, 80 00:08:08,650 --> 00:08:12,290 Speaker 1: and on the odd occasion anyone caught sight of them, 81 00:08:13,050 --> 00:08:19,770 Speaker 1: one of them appeared curiously diminished. D had his doubts 82 00:08:19,810 --> 00:08:25,130 Speaker 1: about the man, but he managed to suppress them. Scrias 83 00:08:25,290 --> 00:08:29,090 Speaker 1: were itinerant by nature, so a nebulous past was normal, 84 00:08:29,810 --> 00:08:36,730 Speaker 1: And besides, Talbot was prodigiously talented. His visions majestic and elaborate. 85 00:08:37,530 --> 00:08:40,810 Speaker 1: D recorded them all in his diary, Convinced that he'd 86 00:08:40,850 --> 00:08:44,850 Speaker 1: at last found the partner had been looking for. His 87 00:08:45,050 --> 00:08:53,530 Speaker 1: entries were detailed and methodical. Within days, the scrier's visions escalated. 88 00:08:54,450 --> 00:08:59,730 Speaker 1: The great Archangel Michael appeared in the mirror, sword in hand, 89 00:09:00,530 --> 00:09:03,490 Speaker 1: and there was a man there too. He was kneeling 90 00:09:03,730 --> 00:09:06,730 Speaker 1: with his back to Talbot, who couldn't see his face. 91 00:09:07,970 --> 00:09:12,010 Speaker 1: The archangel tapped the man with his blade, as though 92 00:09:12,450 --> 00:09:18,210 Speaker 1: dubbing a knight. Then the man rose and turned, and 93 00:09:18,290 --> 00:09:24,210 Speaker 1: the scrire revealed his identity. He did resemble me. John 94 00:09:24,330 --> 00:09:32,250 Speaker 1: d Encountenance, the d of Talbot's vision had been anointed, 95 00:09:33,290 --> 00:09:38,370 Speaker 1: chosen for some higher task. It was a seductive story, 96 00:09:39,250 --> 00:09:45,610 Speaker 1: one that the real flesh and blood d simply couldn't resist. 97 00:09:50,410 --> 00:09:57,010 Speaker 1: Talbot and d continued scrying together. Each session D led 98 00:09:57,050 --> 00:10:03,930 Speaker 1: them in the same preparatory ritual. They washed, shaved, dressed 99 00:10:04,010 --> 00:10:09,010 Speaker 1: in fresh clothes, read from the scriptures, and prayed faced, 100 00:10:09,130 --> 00:10:14,210 Speaker 1: seeing all four points of the compass. As the months passed, 101 00:10:14,890 --> 00:10:21,290 Speaker 1: more angels identified themselves, explaining their places in the spiritual hierarchy. 102 00:10:22,530 --> 00:10:28,010 Speaker 1: Talbot had exhausting apocalyptic visions of fire and brimstone that 103 00:10:28,290 --> 00:10:34,890 Speaker 1: left his heart palpitating furiously, and archangel Michael began to 104 00:10:34,930 --> 00:10:39,090 Speaker 1: dictate a holy table of numbers with a sacred sigel 105 00:10:39,170 --> 00:10:43,410 Speaker 1: at its center. It was all going rather well until 106 00:10:43,450 --> 00:10:48,730 Speaker 1: it wasn't. A few months later, De wrote a grim 107 00:10:48,770 --> 00:10:53,890 Speaker 1: note in his diary. I have confirmed that Talbot was 108 00:10:53,930 --> 00:11:06,010 Speaker 1: a cossoner. A cosoner was a fraud. Fast forward nearly 109 00:11:06,170 --> 00:11:09,770 Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty years to the town of Agd 110 00:11:10,130 --> 00:11:15,770 Speaker 1: in France. It's twenty twenty and Gield Detour is speaking 111 00:11:15,850 --> 00:11:21,690 Speaker 1: with his father. That might seem unexceptional, but for one detail. 112 00:11:22,930 --> 00:11:29,530 Speaker 1: Gild De'tur's father died over twenty years ago. A woman 113 00:11:29,610 --> 00:11:35,450 Speaker 1: called Sophia Martinez has helped them reconnect. Martinez describes herself 114 00:11:35,490 --> 00:11:40,970 Speaker 1: as a medium, hypnotherapist and healer, a specialist in the 115 00:11:41,090 --> 00:11:45,610 Speaker 1: cleansing of energy for people and places. Her clients have 116 00:11:45,650 --> 00:11:51,130 Speaker 1: included doctors, architects, and police officers, and she comes highly recommended. 117 00:11:53,210 --> 00:11:57,290 Speaker 1: Detur himself used to be a Secret Service officer, but 118 00:11:57,370 --> 00:12:00,730 Speaker 1: he's now the mayor of agd. His father ran for 119 00:12:00,890 --> 00:12:04,370 Speaker 1: mayor too, but he passed away just before the votes 120 00:12:04,410 --> 00:12:08,970 Speaker 1: were cast. Detur took up the torch and he's held 121 00:12:09,490 --> 00:12:14,210 Speaker 1: since two thousand and one. He misses his father immensely. 122 00:12:15,370 --> 00:12:21,170 Speaker 1: As time passes, he continues to consult Martinez. One day, 123 00:12:21,410 --> 00:12:23,850 Speaker 1: when Detur is in his office at the town hall, 124 00:12:24,650 --> 00:12:31,290 Speaker 1: his phone buzzes. It's dark, gleaming screen lighting up. The 125 00:12:31,330 --> 00:12:40,490 Speaker 1: call is from a withheld number, Hello, Gesutor. The voice 126 00:12:40,570 --> 00:12:43,810 Speaker 1: is guttural and rasping. Who is this? 127 00:12:45,210 --> 00:12:52,250 Speaker 2: It is the archangel Michael, Prince of the heaven Leos. 128 00:12:52,290 --> 00:12:58,410 Speaker 1: The Archangel Michael, leader of God's Army on the phone 129 00:12:59,650 --> 00:13:07,170 Speaker 1: to him. If Detur is stunned, he's also credulous. As 130 00:13:07,330 --> 00:13:12,210 Speaker 1: journalist Leo Chic reports in the podcast series The Mystic 131 00:13:12,450 --> 00:13:16,490 Speaker 1: and the Mayor, he manages to answer the great Angel. 132 00:13:17,370 --> 00:13:20,970 Speaker 1: He asks him about the afterlife, and Michael tells the 133 00:13:21,010 --> 00:13:24,570 Speaker 1: tour that he has messages for him from his father. 134 00:13:25,890 --> 00:13:31,130 Speaker 1: The calls keep coming. Before long, Michael asks the Mayor 135 00:13:31,810 --> 00:13:44,370 Speaker 1: to call him Papa. In Mortlake fifteen eighty two, John 136 00:13:44,450 --> 00:13:50,770 Speaker 1: D had made a discovery. His scrier's name wasn't Edward Talbot, 137 00:13:51,010 --> 00:13:55,250 Speaker 1: but Edward Kelly, and he certainly wasn't related to the 138 00:13:55,290 --> 00:14:03,130 Speaker 1: Talbot Earls of Shrewsbury. He'd given his master a fake identity. Talbot, 139 00:14:03,890 --> 00:14:08,770 Speaker 1: or rather Kelly, defended himself. He got his hands on 140 00:14:08,890 --> 00:14:14,210 Speaker 1: d diary, and beneath the charge of cousiner, he scrawled 141 00:14:14,210 --> 00:14:16,530 Speaker 1: his own affronted entry. 142 00:14:16,810 --> 00:14:20,610 Speaker 2: A horrible and slanderous lie. 143 00:14:21,010 --> 00:14:26,210 Speaker 1: When D's wife Jane learned of the skrier's treachery, she 144 00:14:26,410 --> 00:14:31,250 Speaker 1: flew into a marvelous rage. She'd never liked the man. 145 00:14:31,930 --> 00:14:37,610 Speaker 1: He was mercurial and prone to wild, drunken outbursts. According 146 00:14:37,650 --> 00:14:42,490 Speaker 1: to D, her fury lasted all evening and all night. 147 00:14:45,170 --> 00:14:50,090 Speaker 1: D agreed that Kelly's deceit was abominable, but it was 148 00:14:50,290 --> 00:14:54,330 Speaker 1: also true that a fake name didn't automatically make him 149 00:14:54,410 --> 00:14:59,010 Speaker 1: less talented, quite the opposite. In fact, skill at scrying 150 00:14:59,810 --> 00:15:05,490 Speaker 1: often went hand in hand with peculiarity. D now faced 151 00:15:05,690 --> 00:15:11,050 Speaker 1: a dilemma. On the one hand, Ayane detested the man 152 00:15:11,490 --> 00:15:15,010 Speaker 1: and wanted him gone from her house. On the other, 153 00:15:15,770 --> 00:15:19,250 Speaker 1: they'd been making good progress in their work. The angelic 154 00:15:19,370 --> 00:15:25,610 Speaker 1: language glittered just ahead or without Kelly, the signal from 155 00:15:25,690 --> 00:15:30,450 Speaker 1: the heavens would go cold. Should he abandon the project, 156 00:15:31,690 --> 00:15:38,050 Speaker 1: or choose to trust Kelly and plow on his wife, 157 00:15:38,330 --> 00:15:56,410 Speaker 1: or his scrire cautionary tales will return. D managed to 158 00:15:56,530 --> 00:16:01,530 Speaker 1: suppress his doubts. A few months later, he reunited with 159 00:16:01,650 --> 00:16:06,410 Speaker 1: Kelly and offered him a place in his household. Jane 160 00:16:06,690 --> 00:16:11,730 Speaker 1: Dee's loathing was but there was nothing she could do. 161 00:16:12,770 --> 00:16:18,690 Speaker 1: Her husband was spellbound. De pledged Kelly a salary of 162 00:16:18,850 --> 00:16:22,970 Speaker 1: fifty pounds per year. He was in debt and struggling 163 00:16:23,050 --> 00:16:26,250 Speaker 1: for an income, but he was hardened by a reassuring 164 00:16:26,410 --> 00:16:34,690 Speaker 1: forecast the Queen's glowing favor would soon return. The Queen's 165 00:16:34,690 --> 00:16:38,930 Speaker 1: favor did not return, and other courtiers gave him the 166 00:16:38,970 --> 00:16:43,850 Speaker 1: cold shoulder, but the angels had a ready explanation. 167 00:16:45,930 --> 00:16:50,210 Speaker 2: Whom God commonly chooseth shall be whom the princes of 168 00:16:50,290 --> 00:16:51,690 Speaker 2: the earth disdain. 169 00:16:54,050 --> 00:16:58,570 Speaker 1: Dee's isolation was a badge of honor, proof of his 170 00:16:58,930 --> 00:17:06,050 Speaker 1: cosmic significance. Trouble reared its head again. Kelly told Dee 171 00:17:06,050 --> 00:17:09,410 Speaker 1: that a London surgeon was hounding him over for some 172 00:17:09,890 --> 00:17:14,010 Speaker 1: fraudulent scheme. His wife Joanna had been forced into hiding. 173 00:17:15,050 --> 00:17:20,490 Speaker 1: D wasn't too concerned. More pressing was that he couldn't 174 00:17:20,570 --> 00:17:25,090 Speaker 1: obey the angel's latest command. They were to leave England 175 00:17:26,010 --> 00:17:32,890 Speaker 1: because the apocalypse was coming, but they had no money 176 00:17:32,930 --> 00:17:40,210 Speaker 1: for passage or lodgings. For now, they were stuck. In 177 00:17:40,250 --> 00:17:45,250 Speaker 1: spring fifteen eighty three, as d and Kelly were busy 178 00:17:45,330 --> 00:17:51,570 Speaker 1: transcribing the Angelic language, Prince Laski of Poland paid a 179 00:17:51,650 --> 00:17:57,090 Speaker 1: visit to the English court. A distinctive figure, Laski wore 180 00:17:57,130 --> 00:18:01,570 Speaker 1: his long white beard tucked into his belt, and gold 181 00:18:01,650 --> 00:18:06,050 Speaker 1: and yellow shoes that curled the toes. He was charismatic, 182 00:18:06,650 --> 00:18:12,170 Speaker 1: fabulously wealthy, and a favorite of his king. The Prince 183 00:18:12,210 --> 00:18:15,330 Speaker 1: took an interest in d and Kelly's work and he 184 00:18:15,450 --> 00:18:19,450 Speaker 1: visited them in Mortlake with a high stakes question for 185 00:18:19,530 --> 00:18:29,690 Speaker 1: the angels. Would he Laski be the next king of Poland? Yes, 186 00:18:30,530 --> 00:18:35,090 Speaker 1: said the angels, The crown would very soon be his. 187 00:18:39,690 --> 00:18:44,130 Speaker 1: Did d and Kelly believe this forecast? Or was it 188 00:18:44,290 --> 00:18:49,250 Speaker 1: calculated flattery? D, after all, had once profited by predicting 189 00:18:49,370 --> 00:18:55,290 Speaker 1: the rise to power of Queen Elizabeth herself. Lasky was thrilled, 190 00:18:55,930 --> 00:18:59,490 Speaker 1: offered to fund a journey in Europe and pledge D 191 00:18:59,770 --> 00:19:03,930 Speaker 1: a salary of fifty pounds per year to the angel 192 00:19:04,050 --> 00:19:10,810 Speaker 1: whisperer Kelly. He offered twice as much, but D learned 193 00:19:10,810 --> 00:19:16,090 Speaker 1: that the Queen's spies had made a shocking discovery. Laski 194 00:19:16,410 --> 00:19:20,090 Speaker 1: was not beloved by the King of Poland. In fact, 195 00:19:20,330 --> 00:19:23,650 Speaker 1: it had been exiled by him. He was also broke, 196 00:19:24,250 --> 00:19:28,210 Speaker 1: having burnt through his fortune raising private armies in a 197 00:19:28,250 --> 00:19:31,570 Speaker 1: bid for the throne, and he'd run up enormous bills 198 00:19:31,610 --> 00:19:37,170 Speaker 1: all over England. Had D and Kelly fooled him or 199 00:19:37,210 --> 00:19:43,930 Speaker 1: had he fooled them? It got worse. Lasky started claiming 200 00:19:44,010 --> 00:19:48,010 Speaker 1: that he was related by blood to Queen Elizabeth and 201 00:19:48,250 --> 00:19:53,650 Speaker 1: spreading pamphlets about his own popularity as suspicion of the 202 00:19:53,690 --> 00:19:58,330 Speaker 1: Polish Prince grew d realized that he'd hitched his wagon 203 00:19:58,490 --> 00:20:03,490 Speaker 1: to a falling star. He decided not to quit, but 204 00:20:03,530 --> 00:20:08,570 Speaker 1: to flee. He scrambled to borrow four hundred pounds and 205 00:20:08,730 --> 00:20:14,010 Speaker 1: packed several hundred books, the Showstone and his most prized possession, 206 00:20:14,370 --> 00:20:18,330 Speaker 1: his perspective class the kind of forerunner of the telescope. 207 00:20:20,010 --> 00:20:24,330 Speaker 1: And so the Lord Albert Laski, I, mister e Kelly, 208 00:20:24,850 --> 00:20:29,850 Speaker 1: our wives, my children, we went toward our ships a 209 00:20:29,890 --> 00:20:38,250 Speaker 1: low grazer. One dark night in September fifteen eighty three, 210 00:20:39,170 --> 00:20:48,530 Speaker 1: they slipped past their creditors and sailed for Holland d 211 00:20:49,130 --> 00:20:53,010 Speaker 1: Kelly and their families trudged through the Netherlands and across 212 00:20:53,130 --> 00:21:00,170 Speaker 1: northern Germany, lodging at drafty inns. Lasky meanwhile glided between 213 00:21:00,250 --> 00:21:04,330 Speaker 1: the great houses of Europe, enjoying all the privileges of 214 00:21:04,370 --> 00:21:13,650 Speaker 1: his rank. It sooned and bitterly cold. Jane Dee, charged 215 00:21:13,690 --> 00:21:17,250 Speaker 1: with managing a household and three small children on the move, 216 00:21:18,050 --> 00:21:23,890 Speaker 1: must have been miserable. Dee himself agonized over his decision 217 00:21:23,930 --> 00:21:29,250 Speaker 1: to leave. Had he made the right choice, The angels 218 00:21:29,290 --> 00:21:33,130 Speaker 1: revealed that he had passed the point of no return. 219 00:21:34,250 --> 00:21:43,370 Speaker 1: England now viewed him as a renegade. In February fifteen 220 00:21:43,410 --> 00:21:48,770 Speaker 1: eighty four, the exhausted party reached the prince's ice bound 221 00:21:48,850 --> 00:21:54,050 Speaker 1: home of Lascar. The welcome was even chillier than the climate. 222 00:21:54,850 --> 00:21:59,170 Speaker 1: Lady Laski took an instant dislike to her husband's rag 223 00:21:59,250 --> 00:22:03,490 Speaker 1: tag entourage, and it soon became clear that the Prince's 224 00:22:03,610 --> 00:22:09,210 Speaker 1: dire finances couldn't support them for long. The Angels now 225 00:22:09,290 --> 00:22:12,970 Speaker 1: appeared to have a change of heart, ordering that d 226 00:22:13,370 --> 00:22:18,130 Speaker 1: and Kelly abandon their bankrupt patron and head to the 227 00:22:18,170 --> 00:22:22,890 Speaker 1: golden city of Prague of a make or break mission 228 00:22:23,410 --> 00:22:30,810 Speaker 1: awaited them. Prague was the capital of the Kingdom of Bohemia, 229 00:22:31,370 --> 00:22:35,010 Speaker 1: the heart of a sprawling empire that covered much of 230 00:22:35,170 --> 00:22:40,490 Speaker 1: modern day Central Europe. From his soaring castle high above 231 00:22:40,490 --> 00:22:44,890 Speaker 1: the city, Holy Roman Emperor Rudolph the Second ruled over 232 00:22:44,930 --> 00:22:48,530 Speaker 1: a patchwork of lands that stretched from the Baltic to 233 00:22:48,610 --> 00:22:55,250 Speaker 1: the Alps. Rudolph was obsessed with the occult, and his 234 00:22:55,370 --> 00:23:00,770 Speaker 1: castle was crammed with eclectic objects. Have asked cabinets of 235 00:23:00,850 --> 00:23:07,770 Speaker 1: curiosities that included clockwork, autometer, vials of virgin's blood, shriveled 236 00:23:07,930 --> 00:23:13,570 Speaker 1: mandrake roots, an enormous narwhale tusk, and what he claimed 237 00:23:13,970 --> 00:23:20,890 Speaker 1: were the leathery remains of a dragon. Below the Imperial 238 00:23:20,970 --> 00:23:25,610 Speaker 1: Palace was a nest of winding streets, where astrologers and 239 00:23:25,730 --> 00:23:31,490 Speaker 1: alchemists lived and worked. Rudolph was particularly interested in the 240 00:23:31,490 --> 00:23:37,050 Speaker 1: Philosopher's Stone, a powerful substance that promised to transmute base 241 00:23:37,130 --> 00:23:41,930 Speaker 1: metals into gold and supply an elixir of eternal youth. 242 00:23:43,170 --> 00:23:49,210 Speaker 1: Monarchs everywhere craved the stone, and Rudolph kept a stable 243 00:23:49,290 --> 00:23:53,850 Speaker 1: of alchemists on his pay roll. They labored in secret, 244 00:23:54,210 --> 00:23:59,970 Speaker 1: subterranean labs, away from the disapproving eyes of the Catholic Church. 245 00:24:07,970 --> 00:24:15,930 Speaker 1: As the summer unbeat down, De's loaded wagons rattled into Prague. Here, 246 00:24:16,490 --> 00:24:22,290 Speaker 1: Kelly's focus shifted. Curious about the Philosopher's Stone and its 247 00:24:22,370 --> 00:24:27,610 Speaker 1: lucrative potential, he began experimenting with a mysterious red powder 248 00:24:27,650 --> 00:24:32,810 Speaker 1: that he said he had found back in England. The Angels, however, 249 00:24:33,250 --> 00:24:38,290 Speaker 1: were restless. They announced that unless d delivered a shocking 250 00:24:38,490 --> 00:24:43,810 Speaker 1: ultimatum to Emperor Rudolph, Satan would harm his beloved wife 251 00:24:43,810 --> 00:24:50,530 Speaker 1: and children, a cunning fish of stratagem D was appalled, 252 00:24:51,450 --> 00:24:57,690 Speaker 1: but what choice did he have? Declimbed to the Imperial castle, 253 00:24:58,450 --> 00:25:03,050 Speaker 1: where he was ushered past displays of dissected frogs and 254 00:25:03,570 --> 00:25:10,210 Speaker 1: magical amulets, and admitted to Rudolph's privy chamber. The Emperor 255 00:25:10,250 --> 00:25:13,970 Speaker 1: had been told that the clever visitor from England had 256 00:25:14,090 --> 00:25:20,450 Speaker 1: something useful to say to him. He waited expectantly, surrounded 257 00:25:20,490 --> 00:25:26,010 Speaker 1: by his courtiers. De steeled himself, then began. 258 00:25:27,210 --> 00:25:31,290 Speaker 3: The Angel of the Lord hath appeared to me and 259 00:25:31,370 --> 00:25:34,690 Speaker 3: rebuketh you for your sins. 260 00:25:36,010 --> 00:25:37,890 Speaker 1: The courtiers fell silent. 261 00:25:39,570 --> 00:25:44,650 Speaker 3: Hear me, and you shall triumph. If you will not 262 00:25:44,890 --> 00:25:49,410 Speaker 3: hear me, God will throw you headlong down from your seat. 263 00:25:52,450 --> 00:25:58,050 Speaker 1: A chill fell over the chamber. The Emperor simply stared. 264 00:25:59,370 --> 00:26:04,090 Speaker 1: Then he calmly rejected Dee's invitation to a scrying session 265 00:26:04,730 --> 00:26:15,170 Speaker 1: and dismissed him. Shortly after this disastrous encounter, the papal 266 00:26:15,290 --> 00:26:21,770 Speaker 1: nuncio in Prague accused d and Kelly of heresy, necromancy, 267 00:26:22,490 --> 00:26:29,490 Speaker 1: and other prohibited arts. Rudolph had no interest in protecting them. 268 00:26:29,850 --> 00:26:33,410 Speaker 1: They had just six days to find a new home. 269 00:26:35,370 --> 00:26:40,490 Speaker 1: Isolated and penniless, d and Kelly had nowhere to go. 270 00:26:41,490 --> 00:26:46,010 Speaker 1: They huddled in dirty crowded quarters and begged their old 271 00:26:46,130 --> 00:26:52,690 Speaker 1: patron Laski for money. The messages from beyond again changed. 272 00:26:53,770 --> 00:26:58,250 Speaker 1: It seemed that the angels wanted D and Kelly to 273 00:26:58,570 --> 00:27:04,650 Speaker 1: focus on a new assignment, the Philosopher Stone. They ordered 274 00:27:04,690 --> 00:27:10,930 Speaker 1: that d retire his showstone and burn his records. D 275 00:27:11,290 --> 00:27:14,650 Speaker 1: was baffled as to how this fit their mission to 276 00:27:14,770 --> 00:27:20,530 Speaker 1: decode the Angelic language, but exhausted, he went along with it. 277 00:27:21,690 --> 00:27:26,210 Speaker 1: At the prompting of Kelly's Angels. D and his family 278 00:27:26,770 --> 00:27:31,450 Speaker 1: had plodded from the court of Queen Elizabeth Tulaski, from 279 00:27:31,570 --> 00:27:37,370 Speaker 1: Laski to Emperor Rudolph, and their journey still wasn't finished. Now, 280 00:27:37,690 --> 00:27:42,290 Speaker 1: wealthy nobleman count villem Rosenberg took an interest in the pair. 281 00:27:43,170 --> 00:27:47,130 Speaker 1: He invited them to his castle in Treybon, Southern Bohemia, 282 00:27:47,770 --> 00:27:51,570 Speaker 1: where he gave them a laboratory and everything they needed 283 00:27:51,930 --> 00:27:57,650 Speaker 1: to pursue the Philosopher's Stone. Kelly took the lead, wielding 284 00:27:57,730 --> 00:28:05,170 Speaker 1: that strange red powder. D the Great Scholar, now acted 285 00:28:05,410 --> 00:28:14,130 Speaker 1: as assistant. Word of their experiments spread. The Czar of 286 00:28:14,250 --> 00:28:18,810 Speaker 1: Russia sent two merchants to Treybon with a lucrative offer 287 00:28:18,850 --> 00:28:24,850 Speaker 1: of employment. Kelly declined, but before they left, he gave 288 00:28:24,890 --> 00:28:29,810 Speaker 1: them a dazzling performance. Adding a tiny grain of his 289 00:28:30,010 --> 00:28:35,490 Speaker 1: red powder to a crucible of mercury, he miraculously produced 290 00:28:35,530 --> 00:28:39,730 Speaker 1: what he said was an ounce of the best gold. 291 00:28:41,450 --> 00:28:46,490 Speaker 1: And as Kelly's reputation grew, so too did his wealth. 292 00:28:47,810 --> 00:28:51,250 Speaker 1: In early fifteen eighty seven, he returned from a trip 293 00:28:51,370 --> 00:28:56,810 Speaker 1: with an opulent gold necklace, valued at a staggering three 294 00:28:56,890 --> 00:29:01,850 Speaker 1: hundred ducats. He didn't give it to his own wife. 295 00:29:01,970 --> 00:29:09,330 Speaker 1: He gave it to Jane d Cautionary tales will return 296 00:29:10,530 --> 00:29:24,890 Speaker 1: after the break. August twenty twenty three, at a lavish 297 00:29:24,970 --> 00:29:29,010 Speaker 1: wedding in the south of France, one hundred white chairs 298 00:29:29,210 --> 00:29:33,930 Speaker 1: line a path to an altar framed with angel wings. 299 00:29:34,970 --> 00:29:40,490 Speaker 1: Local medium Sofia Martinez is getting married. Walking her down 300 00:29:40,530 --> 00:29:44,490 Speaker 1: the aisle in the role of proud father figure is 301 00:29:44,570 --> 00:29:49,530 Speaker 1: none other than long serving mayor of aged Yield at All. 302 00:29:50,690 --> 00:29:54,930 Speaker 1: The All isn't the only client here. A number of 303 00:29:54,970 --> 00:30:00,770 Speaker 1: the wedding guests have also engaged Martinez's services. Today they 304 00:30:01,010 --> 00:30:06,210 Speaker 1: enjoy live music and two buffets. It's a beautiful wedding 305 00:30:07,170 --> 00:30:13,850 Speaker 1: and it looks expensive. A couple of months later, the 306 00:30:13,890 --> 00:30:19,490 Speaker 1: Mayor's ex wife Geraldine Sanchez de Toor walks into the 307 00:30:19,530 --> 00:30:25,530 Speaker 1: aged police station with a strange story. She too, has 308 00:30:25,570 --> 00:30:32,370 Speaker 1: been consulting Sophia Martinez. Recently, she started receiving phone calls 309 00:30:33,050 --> 00:30:36,970 Speaker 1: from a rasping, guttural voice that purports to be the 310 00:30:37,130 --> 00:30:44,170 Speaker 1: archangel Michael. The voice, which asks to be called Papa, 311 00:30:44,610 --> 00:30:48,930 Speaker 1: knows all sorts of details about her private life, and 312 00:30:48,970 --> 00:30:55,130 Speaker 1: it's begun requesting favors for Martinez. Sanchez de Tour later 313 00:30:55,210 --> 00:30:58,970 Speaker 1: withdraws her complaints, but by then the police have heard 314 00:30:59,010 --> 00:31:03,770 Speaker 1: from others they've been contacted by the rasping voice two 315 00:31:03,810 --> 00:31:07,770 Speaker 1: and at least one worried about its influence on the mayor. 316 00:31:09,210 --> 00:31:14,210 Speaker 1: An official investigation is opened. The police can't bring the 317 00:31:14,330 --> 00:31:24,770 Speaker 1: archangel Michael in for questioning, so instead they followed the money. 318 00:31:29,690 --> 00:31:35,770 Speaker 1: Spring fifteen eighty seven, Treybon By now D has been 319 00:31:35,930 --> 00:31:41,170 Speaker 1: tethered to Kelly for more than three grueling years. The 320 00:31:41,210 --> 00:31:48,410 Speaker 1: angel's requests had dwindled. Then in April, her spirit appeared 321 00:31:48,450 --> 00:31:52,490 Speaker 1: to Kelly in the form of a young girl. She 322 00:31:52,770 --> 00:31:57,530 Speaker 1: tantalizingly offered to reveal God's secrets, but there was a 323 00:31:57,570 --> 00:32:02,370 Speaker 1: requirement that D and Kelly had to fulfill. First, it 324 00:32:02,410 --> 00:32:09,170 Speaker 1: wasn't prayer or alchemy, but unity. They were to sh 325 00:32:10,170 --> 00:32:19,170 Speaker 1: everything in common, including their wives. D was horrified. Nothing 326 00:32:19,290 --> 00:32:23,970 Speaker 1: is unlawful, which is lawful? Until God came the convenient 327 00:32:24,130 --> 00:32:28,130 Speaker 1: spiritual loophole. D and Kelly were warned that if they 328 00:32:28,250 --> 00:32:32,770 Speaker 1: refused to obey the command, the consequences would be disastrous. 329 00:32:33,530 --> 00:32:38,170 Speaker 1: The mysterious red powder their meal ticket would turn to dust, 330 00:32:39,170 --> 00:32:42,570 Speaker 1: the angels would vanish, and the secrets of the universe 331 00:32:42,610 --> 00:32:50,090 Speaker 1: would be locked away forever. D adored his wife, yet 332 00:32:50,770 --> 00:32:55,850 Speaker 1: what choice did he have. H'd state everything on the angels. 333 00:32:57,050 --> 00:33:02,770 Speaker 1: When grief stricken, he finally told Jane about their latest order. 334 00:33:03,730 --> 00:33:08,210 Speaker 1: Her reaction shattered him. She fell a weeping and a 335 00:33:08,330 --> 00:33:12,770 Speaker 1: trembling for a quarter of an hour, and I pacified 336 00:33:12,770 --> 00:33:17,930 Speaker 1: her as well I could. D tried to persuade Jane 337 00:33:18,010 --> 00:33:25,730 Speaker 1: that they must follow God's will. Eventually she agreed, I. 338 00:33:25,730 --> 00:33:29,890 Speaker 4: Trust, though I give myself thus to be used, that 339 00:33:29,930 --> 00:33:32,330 Speaker 4: God will turn me into a stone before he would 340 00:33:32,330 --> 00:33:37,170 Speaker 4: suffer me in my obedience to receive any shame or inconvenience. 341 00:33:39,250 --> 00:33:45,530 Speaker 1: D and Kelly drew up a contract, a cold legalistic 342 00:33:45,610 --> 00:33:59,450 Speaker 1: document that formalized the common use of their wives. John 343 00:33:59,530 --> 00:34:04,010 Speaker 1: Dee was a want in a generation polymath. He was 344 00:34:04,170 --> 00:34:09,210 Speaker 1: phenomenally intelligent, yet he made choices that were dis de 345 00:34:09,210 --> 00:34:14,730 Speaker 1: sidedly foolish. He fretted about Kelly's checkered past, and he 346 00:34:14,810 --> 00:34:17,810 Speaker 1: knew that he was a liar, but he still chose 347 00:34:17,850 --> 00:34:22,370 Speaker 1: to trust him. He followed Kelly into isolation and squalor, 348 00:34:22,610 --> 00:34:26,730 Speaker 1: and he offended an emperor on his say so why, 349 00:34:27,970 --> 00:34:31,610 Speaker 1: One answer lies in the spirit of the age. D 350 00:34:31,930 --> 00:34:35,890 Speaker 1: truly believed that God was beneficent and wanted good things 351 00:34:35,930 --> 00:34:40,370 Speaker 1: for him. The existence of angels was a fact. Difficulties 352 00:34:40,450 --> 00:34:45,370 Speaker 1: were simply divine trials and far from being a red flag. 353 00:34:45,690 --> 00:34:51,530 Speaker 1: Kelly's volatility and strangeness proved that his soul was sensitive 354 00:34:51,610 --> 00:34:56,690 Speaker 1: to the supernatural. D also had a very real need 355 00:34:57,290 --> 00:35:02,650 Speaker 1: for patronage. One way or another, he had to produce results. 356 00:35:04,410 --> 00:35:10,290 Speaker 1: But there's another explanation at play here too. Psychologist Dan 357 00:35:10,370 --> 00:35:14,130 Speaker 1: Kahan has argued we don't always use our intellect to 358 00:35:14,210 --> 00:35:18,050 Speaker 1: seek the truth, but to preserve our sense of who 359 00:35:18,170 --> 00:35:24,290 Speaker 1: we think we are. He calls this process identity protective cognition. 360 00:35:25,050 --> 00:35:27,970 Speaker 1: What we believe isn't just a reflection of what we know. 361 00:35:29,130 --> 00:35:33,450 Speaker 1: It's a badge of membership to our tribe. Our beliefs 362 00:35:33,610 --> 00:35:38,730 Speaker 1: allow us to belong. John Dee's tribe was the intellectual 363 00:35:38,850 --> 00:35:42,970 Speaker 1: elite of Europe. He saw himself as the man who 364 00:35:43,010 --> 00:35:48,410 Speaker 1: would decode the hidden architecture of the universe, even as 365 00:35:48,410 --> 00:35:51,690 Speaker 1: he became less and less relevant to the people in power. 366 00:35:54,970 --> 00:35:59,810 Speaker 1: Edward Kelly, of course, never turned mercury into gold. Charlatan's 367 00:35:59,850 --> 00:36:05,570 Speaker 1: had all sorts of tricks. Preloaded crucibles, hidden pellets, sleight 368 00:36:05,610 --> 00:36:10,490 Speaker 1: of hand. This was stage magic, and the showmanship that 369 00:36:10,610 --> 00:36:14,930 Speaker 1: made Kelly a compelling scrier probably also made him a 370 00:36:14,970 --> 00:36:22,010 Speaker 1: convincing alchemist. D understood stagecraft decades earlier. He had shocked 371 00:36:22,050 --> 00:36:26,450 Speaker 1: an audience at Cambridge University with a mechanical beetle that 372 00:36:26,570 --> 00:36:34,090 Speaker 1: was so lifelike they thought he'd bewitched it, But by 373 00:36:34,130 --> 00:36:38,130 Speaker 1: the time he reached Bohemia, d was too bought in 374 00:36:38,810 --> 00:36:42,410 Speaker 1: to see the hoax in front of him, because the 375 00:36:42,410 --> 00:36:45,250 Speaker 1: more you give up for a vision, the more you 376 00:36:45,290 --> 00:36:49,130 Speaker 1: have to believe it. To admit that Edward Kelly was 377 00:36:49,170 --> 00:36:53,210 Speaker 1: a fraud would mean admitting that John d was no 378 00:36:53,290 --> 00:36:57,930 Speaker 1: longer a brilliant scholar, but an impoverished old man who'd 379 00:36:57,970 --> 00:37:04,530 Speaker 1: been deceived by a common trickster. The truth was far 380 00:37:04,610 --> 00:37:09,530 Speaker 1: too painful for John D to face, and so in 381 00:37:09,610 --> 00:37:14,850 Speaker 1: a long, slow process of self preservation, he chose to 382 00:37:14,890 --> 00:37:21,610 Speaker 1: believe the lie. In May fifteen eighty seven, D made 383 00:37:21,610 --> 00:37:29,730 Speaker 1: a terse entry in his diary pactum factum. The agreement 384 00:37:30,490 --> 00:37:41,290 Speaker 1: had been executed. He had sacrificed his wife to Kelly's angels. 385 00:37:43,090 --> 00:37:49,770 Speaker 1: That summer, Queen Elizabeth sent envoys to Trebon. They wanted Kelly, 386 00:37:50,850 --> 00:37:56,770 Speaker 1: and they ignored thee entirely. At the castle, tensions boiled over. 387 00:37:57,770 --> 00:38:02,370 Speaker 1: Jane D was pregnant, and John D was ever more 388 00:38:02,410 --> 00:38:08,890 Speaker 1: dependent on Kelly, who frequently erupted into violent outbursts. Irritated 389 00:38:08,890 --> 00:38:13,650 Speaker 1: that D was hanging on. In an effort to make peace, 390 00:38:14,130 --> 00:38:18,250 Speaker 1: D wrote Kelly and his wife charitable letters, but to 391 00:38:18,330 --> 00:38:25,250 Speaker 1: no avail. Privately, he was afraid encrypting his diary in 392 00:38:25,330 --> 00:38:33,290 Speaker 1: an increasingly complicated code. In October, Kelly and his wife 393 00:38:33,370 --> 00:38:38,210 Speaker 1: Joanna told the household servants that D was in league 394 00:38:38,250 --> 00:38:44,010 Speaker 1: with the devil. Haniced, D tried again to turn the tide. 395 00:38:44,690 --> 00:38:49,850 Speaker 1: He gave Kelly his most prized possession, his perspective glass, 396 00:38:50,650 --> 00:38:54,450 Speaker 1: that telescope like device that tricked the eye and made 397 00:38:54,610 --> 00:38:59,850 Speaker 1: small objects seem large. Kelly took it, but he had 398 00:38:59,850 --> 00:39:03,450 Speaker 1: no use for a scholar's instrument. He passed it to 399 00:39:03,530 --> 00:39:08,810 Speaker 1: Rosenberg who passed it to the Emperor. D's perspective glass, 400 00:39:09,330 --> 00:39:13,330 Speaker 1: his treasured window into the laws of nature, was tucked 401 00:39:13,370 --> 00:39:23,210 Speaker 1: away to gather dust in Rudolph's cabinets of curiosities. Rosenberg 402 00:39:23,370 --> 00:39:27,530 Speaker 1: Io was irked by D's presence. As far as he 403 00:39:27,570 --> 00:39:31,290 Speaker 1: was concerned, the man was a dead weight. He ordered 404 00:39:31,330 --> 00:39:34,730 Speaker 1: d to leave Trebon and arranged for Kelly to be 405 00:39:34,810 --> 00:39:41,010 Speaker 1: moved to another laboratory. In February fifteen eighty eight, D 406 00:39:41,610 --> 00:39:47,210 Speaker 1: gave up. He handed Kelly his books on alchemy and 407 00:39:47,250 --> 00:39:57,010 Speaker 1: watched him ride away. In modern day act investigators made 408 00:39:57,050 --> 00:40:02,410 Speaker 1: a startling discovery. Between twenty twenty and twenty twenty three, 409 00:40:03,010 --> 00:40:06,810 Speaker 1: there were over three thousand phone calls between Gield Dettor 410 00:40:07,330 --> 00:40:13,290 Speaker 1: and Sophia Martinez. Martinez has since admitted to playing the 411 00:40:13,450 --> 00:40:18,370 Speaker 1: archangel Michael. She reportedly revealed to police that she's an 412 00:40:18,370 --> 00:40:23,850 Speaker 1: accomplished ventriloquist and gave them a demonstration of Michael's rasping voice. 413 00:40:24,250 --> 00:40:28,690 Speaker 2: Protect Sophia, Protect Sophia. 414 00:40:29,650 --> 00:40:31,930 Speaker 1: The voice is said to have implored. 415 00:40:32,330 --> 00:40:35,330 Speaker 2: Take care of her and her people. 416 00:40:38,290 --> 00:40:43,050 Speaker 1: The case against Detur is that he allegedly obeyed the voice, 417 00:40:43,410 --> 00:40:47,050 Speaker 1: using public funds to pay for Martinez's birthday party and 418 00:40:47,170 --> 00:40:51,810 Speaker 1: contribute to her wedding, arranging four municipal contractors to renovate 419 00:40:51,890 --> 00:40:56,450 Speaker 1: her home, funding holidays to Thailand, and securing jobs for 420 00:40:56,490 --> 00:41:01,690 Speaker 1: her family at the town hall. Detor no longer holds 421 00:41:01,770 --> 00:41:06,730 Speaker 1: the keys to AGD. In twenty twenty four, he resigned. 422 00:41:07,770 --> 00:41:13,250 Speaker 1: He was also charged with corruption and misappropriation of public funds. 423 00:41:13,250 --> 00:41:17,850 Speaker 1: Martinez was charged with fraud and concealment. As of recording, 424 00:41:18,530 --> 00:41:24,130 Speaker 1: they're both awaiting trial. Both Detor and Martinez deny the 425 00:41:24,170 --> 00:41:29,010 Speaker 1: criminal charges, and they are presumed innocent until judgment, but 426 00:41:29,290 --> 00:41:34,490 Speaker 1: neither of them seems to deny the spiritual influence. Detoru's 427 00:41:34,570 --> 00:41:38,250 Speaker 1: lawyer has claimed that he was exploited, vulnerable in his 428 00:41:38,410 --> 00:41:41,970 Speaker 1: grief for his late father, and according to the prosecutor, 429 00:41:42,330 --> 00:41:47,730 Speaker 1: Martinez has regretted her behavior, attributing her claims about Detau's 430 00:41:47,850 --> 00:41:55,330 Speaker 1: father to a downward spiral from which she couldn't escape. 431 00:41:55,370 --> 00:41:59,290 Speaker 1: It's tempting to file John Dee Away as a relic 432 00:41:59,370 --> 00:42:04,050 Speaker 1: from a distant time, but The story nagged nearly four 433 00:42:04,130 --> 00:42:08,930 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty years later, would suggest that channels of special, 434 00:42:09,370 --> 00:42:19,930 Speaker 1: unimpeachable knowledge have an enduring appeal. Shortly after John d 435 00:42:20,210 --> 00:42:25,170 Speaker 1: and Edward Kelly parted ways, and nine months after the 436 00:42:25,250 --> 00:42:29,930 Speaker 1: wife swapping agreement, Jane de gave birth to a baby boy. 437 00:42:31,050 --> 00:42:37,290 Speaker 1: She and her husband named him Theodorus Trebonianus, Gift of God. 438 00:42:37,810 --> 00:42:42,810 Speaker 1: At Trebon, the D's were out of options, and they 439 00:42:42,850 --> 00:42:47,890 Speaker 1: began the arduous journey back to England. John D held 440 00:42:47,930 --> 00:42:50,450 Speaker 1: on to hope that Kelly would have a change of 441 00:42:50,530 --> 00:42:56,730 Speaker 1: heart and follow them. Instead, painful news arrived from Rudolph's court. 442 00:42:57,450 --> 00:43:02,130 Speaker 1: The Emperor had given Kelly a castle and lands and 443 00:43:02,210 --> 00:43:09,450 Speaker 1: made him a baron of Bohemia. D was crushed. A 444 00:43:09,490 --> 00:43:13,450 Speaker 1: further blow awaited him in England. When he reached Mortlake, 445 00:43:14,090 --> 00:43:17,810 Speaker 1: he discovered that his cottage had been ransacked by his creditors. 446 00:43:18,490 --> 00:43:24,130 Speaker 1: Many of his most precious tomes on geography, horology, Arabic 447 00:43:24,250 --> 00:43:30,010 Speaker 1: and Hebrew had been taken, and his magnificent library lay 448 00:43:30,050 --> 00:43:37,490 Speaker 1: in ruins. Dee found himself totally irrelevant at court. He 449 00:43:37,650 --> 00:43:41,250 Speaker 1: eventually accepted a job in the North as warden of 450 00:43:41,370 --> 00:43:46,090 Speaker 1: Christ's College, Manchester. It was a respectable enough role, but 451 00:43:46,450 --> 00:43:51,250 Speaker 1: hundreds of miles from the corridors of power. Jane Deeye 452 00:43:51,730 --> 00:43:55,930 Speaker 1: had followed her husband across Europe, raising their children on 453 00:43:55,970 --> 00:44:02,330 Speaker 1: the road, and submitting to Kelly's dark wife swapping command 454 00:44:02,450 --> 00:44:07,130 Speaker 1: in Manchester, her journey came to an end. She succumbed 455 00:44:07,170 --> 00:44:10,570 Speaker 1: to the deadly plague that was ravaging the city and 456 00:44:10,690 --> 00:44:16,850 Speaker 1: passed away in sixteen oh five, aged fifty. As for 457 00:44:16,930 --> 00:44:21,930 Speaker 1: John d he returned to London and lived into his eighties, 458 00:44:22,850 --> 00:44:30,650 Speaker 1: Buried by manuscripts. White haired, penniless, he worked with scriers 459 00:44:30,730 --> 00:44:35,410 Speaker 1: until his very last days, ever convinced that the universe 460 00:44:35,530 --> 00:44:40,770 Speaker 1: would give up its deepest secrets if he only knew 461 00:44:40,810 --> 00:44:45,850 Speaker 1: how to ask. There are various accounts of what became 462 00:44:45,970 --> 00:44:49,450 Speaker 1: of Edward Kelly. Some say that he had a fight 463 00:44:49,530 --> 00:44:53,810 Speaker 1: with an influential alchemist at Rudolph's Court and ended up 464 00:44:53,850 --> 00:44:58,450 Speaker 1: in prison. Others that he faked his own death. Others 465 00:44:58,490 --> 00:45:05,130 Speaker 1: still that he fled to Russia. You can believe what 466 00:45:05,210 --> 00:45:21,810 Speaker 1: you like, after all John de did. For a full 467 00:45:21,850 --> 00:45:25,690 Speaker 1: list of our sources, see the show notes at Timharford 468 00:45:25,810 --> 00:45:30,250 Speaker 1: dot com. Cautionary Tales is written by me Tim Harford 469 00:45:30,410 --> 00:45:35,010 Speaker 1: with Andrew Wright, Alice Fines and Ryan Dilley. It's produced 470 00:45:35,010 --> 00:45:39,170 Speaker 1: by Georgia Mills and Marilyn Rust. 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