WEBVTT - DHS Surveillance and Infiltration of ICE Protests in Minnesota 

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to It Could Happen Here, I'm Garrison Davis. A

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<v Speaker 1>few months ago, the Department of Justice indicted 15 anti-ICE

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<v Speaker 1>protesters who participated in the community response to Operation Metro

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<v Speaker 1>Surge in Minneapolis, Minnesota, earlier this year. Here's U.S. Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Rosen announcing the charges. in a press conference dated

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<v Speaker 1>June 16, 2026.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year, President Trump issued National Security Presidential Memorandum 7,

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<v Speaker 2>which directed the Department of Justice to prioritize politically motivated violence.

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<v Speaker 2>To accomplish that mission, the Deputy Attorney General stood up

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<v Speaker 2>Joint Task Force Vanguard to enforce a national security strategy

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<v Speaker 2>to investigate, prosecute, and disrupt violence those who engage in

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<v Speaker 2>political violence and intimidation. Today, a federal indictment was unsealed,

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<v Speaker 2>charging 15 defendants with conspiracy to impede or injure federal

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<v Speaker 2>officers and other charges related to efforts of two Minneapolis-based

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<v Speaker 2>Antifa groups that violently opposed the enforcement of federal law

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<v Speaker 2>in our state.

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<v Speaker 3>As U.S.

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney Daniel Rosen said, All 15 quote-unquote Antifa defendants were

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<v Speaker 1>charged with conspiracy to impede or injure an officer. According

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<v Speaker 1>to the DOJ, the conspiracy to impede amounted to plans

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<v Speaker 1>to temporarily block roadways around the Bishop Henry Whipple Federal Building,

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<v Speaker 1>where ICE operations in the Twin Cities were and still

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<v Speaker 1>are based out of. The start of the 95-page indictment reads, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>The defendants were members and associates of Twin Cities Direct Action,

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<v Speaker 1>which later changed its name to Direct Action Minnesota or DAM,

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<v Speaker 1>an organization dedicated and committed to direct action against federal

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<v Speaker 1>law and immigration enforcement. Direct action refers to disruptive and

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<v Speaker 1>obstructive tactics used by participants to forcibly challenge, block, or

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<v Speaker 1>stop immigration raids, detentions, and deportations. Dam describes itself as

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<v Speaker 1>a decentralized coalition of working class people engaged in various

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<v Speaker 1>forms of community defense against the current federal occupation happening

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<v Speaker 1>within the wider metro area and against state and far-right

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<v Speaker 1>violence more broadly, unquote. Here's attorney Daniel Rosen again at

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<v Speaker 1>that press conference.

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<v Speaker 2>The organization trains its members in the aggressive use of

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<v Speaker 2>shields against law enforcement, surveillance, operational planning, and rapid mobilization.

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<v Speaker 2>against law enforcement actions.

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<v Speaker 1>The first piece of evidence presented by Rosen in this

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<v Speaker 1>press conference is a Facebook post by one of the

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<v Speaker 1>defendants reading, it's going to get so much worse and

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<v Speaker 1>nonviolent ideology and our politicians aren't going to save us.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to become ungovernable. We need to actively resist

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<v Speaker 1>any way we can to materially stop the Nazi occupation forces.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think it's worth noting that when President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>spoke at the Libertarian Convention in 2024, the wall behind

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<v Speaker 1>him featured giant text reading, Become Ungovernable. Now, most of

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<v Speaker 1>this 95-page indictment is spent detailing random conversations on Signal

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<v Speaker 1>and various group chats discussing First Amendment activity, planning protests...

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<v Speaker 1>discussing how to go about fundraising, making flyers, participating in

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<v Speaker 1>ICE rapid response, writing articles on Crimethink, and an anarchist

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<v Speaker 1>speaking tour. All of which the indictment lists as, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>overt acts in furtherance of the conspiracy. And that's how

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy charges work. Not all the overt acts themselves have

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<v Speaker 1>to be illegal. In fact, they usually are not. They

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<v Speaker 1>just have to be actions taken involving multiple people to

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<v Speaker 1>advance some other criminal goal, in this case, quote-unquote, impeding

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement. And what makes this case particularly weak is

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<v Speaker 1>that the impeding in this case amounts to extremely ordinary

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<v Speaker 1>First Amendment protest. So not only are the majority, if

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<v Speaker 1>not all, of the overt acts listed completely legal actions...

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<v Speaker 1>they were actions taken in furtherance of legally protected First

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<v Speaker 1>Amendment activity. Now, the indictment does list a few other

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<v Speaker 1>charges against specific individuals. One person is charged with allegedly

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<v Speaker 1>making threats based on statements made in Facebook and Instagram videos.

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<v Speaker 1>Two people are charged with interstate stalking based on following

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<v Speaker 1>vehicles leaving the Whipple Building across state lines into Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 1>One person is charged with allegedly assaulting a federal officer

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<v Speaker 1>by knocking notes out of their hand and destruction of

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<v Speaker 1>government property for kicking a vehicle. And lastly, another defendant

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<v Speaker 1>is charged with assaulting a federal officer for allegedly brake-checking

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<v Speaker 1>and side-swiping the officer's vehicle, causing a collision. No evidence

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<v Speaker 1>for these alleged assaults has been presented thus far. But

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<v Speaker 1>the conspiracy charge tying the 15 defendants together is the most, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's illegal to make plans with friends now, case

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever seen. If it wasn't clear from the moment

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<v Speaker 1>this indictment dropped, it only gets more and more clear

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<v Speaker 1>over time that this case is not based on the

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<v Speaker 1>strength of the evidence or threat to public safety, but

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<v Speaker 1>rather political targeting. based on the beliefs held by the defendants,

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<v Speaker 1>and the DOJ's ability to paint the defendants as antifa

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<v Speaker 1>lunatics separate from the majority of peaceful, liberal anti-ice protesters,

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<v Speaker 1>all while building a precedent to criminalize ordinary First Amendment

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<v Speaker 1>protest activity, including ICE rapid response. To make it so

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<v Speaker 1>that any protest against ICE is qualifies as interfering or

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<v Speaker 1>impeding ICE from carrying out its immigration enforcement duties. And

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<v Speaker 1>to create this precedent, the feds located a small group

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<v Speaker 1>of Antifa, some outside agitators, that they believe a jury

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<v Speaker 1>might be more likely to convict than the dozens and

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<v Speaker 1>dozens of cases that have failed to move forward. In

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<v Speaker 1>absence of any evidence of illegal violent acts, the DOJ

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<v Speaker 1>must rely on radical sounding statements made by the defendants

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<v Speaker 1>discussing their politics to turn a jury against them. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's most of what the indictment contains. It's not detailing

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<v Speaker 1>alleged acts of violence. It's detailing conversations about protesting. This

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<v Speaker 1>indictment contains a lot of signal chat logs, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as conversations from in-person meetings, which leads one to wonder,

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<v Speaker 1>How exactly did DHS obtain that information? Well, a few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, about 30 documents were released as a part

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<v Speaker 1>of a discovery motion filed by one of the defendants.

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<v Speaker 1>And these documents provide maybe the closest look at how

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<v Speaker 1>federal law enforcement under Trump, and specifically how DHS and

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<v Speaker 1>Homeland Security Investigations are investigating and surveilling not just, quote unquote, Antifa,

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<v Speaker 1>but anti-ICE protesters more broadly, community activist groups, left-wing organizations

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<v Speaker 1>and non-profits, and even labor unions. The lawyer for the

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<v Speaker 1>defendant in this case called this a, quote, unprecedented campaign

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<v Speaker 1>by DHS to spy on Minnesotans. Before I get into

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<v Speaker 1>some of these specific details, I want to read the

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<v Speaker 1>opening overview by the defense lawyer, Kevin Ryok, discussing what

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<v Speaker 1>Discovery has so far revealed. Quote, Undercover agents posing as

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<v Speaker 1>protesters surveilled community meetings at churches, parks, libraries, schools, and

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<v Speaker 1>union halls. These agents surreptitiously recorded dozens of conversations with

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<v Speaker 1>ordinary people who were simply exercising their First Amendment right

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<v Speaker 1>to protest ICE's lawless rampage in our state. The agents

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<v Speaker 1>gathered information about Minnesotans from law enforcement databases and internet

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<v Speaker 1>searches and created dossiers that are apparently now available agency-wide.

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<v Speaker 1>Homeland Security Investigations' abuses did not stop there. HSI secretly

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<v Speaker 1>obtained financial records for several national labor unions and social

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<v Speaker 1>justice non-profits, all with zero criminal predicate to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>The government's presentation to the grand jury reflected this broad

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<v Speaker 1>and irrational investigation. With no evidence, the government alleged to

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<v Speaker 1>the grand jury that the conspiracy in this case extends

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<v Speaker 1>far beyond the defendants to include the AFL-CIO, the Minneapolis

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<v Speaker 1>Federation of Educators, the Minnesota Association of Professional Employees, Monarcha,

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<v Speaker 1>Veterans for Peace, and the Grease Pit Bicycle Repair Shop,

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<v Speaker 1>among others. These wild conspiracy allegations are born from the

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<v Speaker 1>fantasies of political retribution that animate the Trump administration. President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and senior administration officials routinely speak of the political

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<v Speaker 1>left in dehumanizing terms, as deformed, scarred, and filled with ugliness,

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<v Speaker 1>for example. The administration has criticized those sentiments into policies

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<v Speaker 1>that encourage and authorize political prosecutions like this one, most

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<v Speaker 1>notably National Security Presidential Memorandum 7, unquote. I'm not exaggerating

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<v Speaker 1>that this motion filed by the defense is maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest criticism motion I've ever read. The understanding by the

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer in this case of how the Trump administration is

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<v Speaker 1>carrying out state repression against protesters is incredibly politically fluent.

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<v Speaker 1>That last bit at the end discussing administration officials referring

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<v Speaker 1>to the political left as deformed, scarred, or filled with

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<v Speaker 1>ugliness relates to Stephen Miller's comments at Mark Rubio's left-wing

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<v Speaker 1>terrorism summit last month that we discussed on executive disorder.

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<v Speaker 1>And what he said during that conference was legitimately crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get to much of what he said in

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<v Speaker 1>our previous episode because we were running short on time.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's one quote I highlighted back then when I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing research that I want to read now. Quote,

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<v Speaker 1>the leftist looks at what is beautiful and what is

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<v Speaker 1>good and what is natural and is filled with envy

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<v Speaker 1>and hatred. The leftist looks at the perfect family with

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect life and the perfect job and perfect kids

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<v Speaker 1>that goes to church every Sunday. and it's filled with

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<v Speaker 1>a feeling of inadequacy and jealousy, and they covet. And

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<v Speaker 1>they turn those emotions ultimately into a desire to subjugate,

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<v Speaker 1>to oppress, and to inflict pain and suffering. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a coincidence that when you look at any of these

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<v Speaker 1>violent Antifa demonstrations, and you see any photograph of those

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<v Speaker 1>who were assembled, to be blunt, not one of the

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<v Speaker 1>people that is demonstrating looks like a normal person. They're

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<v Speaker 1>all deformed in some way. in their appearance, in their dress,

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<v Speaker 1>in their mannerisms. Why is that? Every one of them,

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<v Speaker 1>through the course of their life and their decisions, has

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<v Speaker 1>scarred their body and their appearance in many different ways,

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<v Speaker 1>to the point in which their outer appearance becomes a

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<v Speaker 1>manifestation of their inner hatred.

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<v Speaker 3>Unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>Super fascist stuff. Like, incredibly fascist. And the point by

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Ryok, the lawyer for one of the defendants, that

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration has turned these fascistic sentiments into enforcement policy,

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<v Speaker 1>like MSPM 7, is a really crucial point. Because these

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<v Speaker 1>are not just personal sentiments held by Stephen Miller. These

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<v Speaker 1>sentiments have been distilled into mandates to investigate and prosecute

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<v Speaker 1>the political enemies of the Trump administration. Just four days

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<v Speaker 1>after Border Patrol murdered Alex Preddy, Homeland Security Investigations opened

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<v Speaker 1>a new investigation into anti-ICE protests in the Twin Cities

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<v Speaker 1>called Operation Puppet Master. As in looking for the alleged

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<v Speaker 1>puppet master orchestrating the spontaneous and community-led protests. Or I

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<v Speaker 1>guess as in HSI is the puppet master infiltrating the

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<v Speaker 1>protests with undercover agents puppeteered by DHS. Either way, DHS

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<v Speaker 1>produced a report detailing the opening of Operation Puppet Master,

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<v Speaker 1>and that report states, quote, This case is opened to

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<v Speaker 1>document the integration of HSI undercover agents into groups, organizations,

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<v Speaker 1>or other gatherings identified by intelligence information and other sources

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<v Speaker 1>as potentially threatening to law enforcement personnel in the performance

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<v Speaker 1>of their duties. The report by HSI Special Agent Jacob

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<v Speaker 1>Marquis states, continues, quote, since November 28, 2026, I assume

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<v Speaker 1>he means 2025.

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<v Speaker 2>Great work, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Ongoing protests and incidents of civil unrest have occurred in

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<v Speaker 1>public areas throughout Minneapolis, Minnesota. During these events, violent opportunists,

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<v Speaker 1>or VOs, have exploited the protests as cover to attempt

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<v Speaker 1>breaches of federal properties and perpetuated multiple assaults against federal

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<v Speaker 1>officers tasked with protecting these facilities. Homeland Security Investigations of St.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul has identified an organized network of conspirators operating through

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<v Speaker 1>online and in-person who are providing material support to violent

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<v Speaker 1>opportunists and agitators involved in impeding federal law enforcement, rioting,

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<v Speaker 1>destruction of federal property, and assaults on federal agents and officers.

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<v Speaker 1>This sentiment was also shared by U.S. Attorney Daniel Rosen

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<v Speaker 1>in that press conference.

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<v Speaker 2>During Operation Metro Surge, Direct Action Minnesota infiltrated and exploited

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<v Speaker 2>lawful protests to more efficiently carry out its unlawful direct actions.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite the claims made by Rosen and in this HSI

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<v Speaker 1>report of violent opportunists exploiting protests to perpetuate multiple assaults,

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<v Speaker 1>In the defense's overview of these reports and documents, the

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<v Speaker 1>defense lawyer notes that HSI does not actually identify any

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<v Speaker 1>specific violent opportunists in this report, nor does it flag

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<v Speaker 1>any specific incidents of rioting, destruction of property, or assaults

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<v Speaker 1>on federal agents or officers. To quote the lawyer for

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<v Speaker 1>the defense, the undercover surveillance initiated by Operation Puppet Master

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<v Speaker 1>did not actually investigate or unearth any such instances, but

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<v Speaker 1>instead encompassed all manner of privacy and constitutional violations against

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<v Speaker 1>organizations and individuals who opposed ICE's activities in Minnesota, unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>And in his press conference announcing the conspiracy charges, U.S.

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney Daniel Rosen was asked multiple times whether any officers

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<v Speaker 1>actually got hurt, and Rosen could not identify any instance

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<v Speaker 1>of officer injury.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about coordinated attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of injuries did officers sustain as part of

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<v Speaker 1>these campaigns, if any?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you elaborate on that? I can't elaborate on that today,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't believe I used the word attacks, but

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<v Speaker 2>if I did, I stand by it.

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<v Speaker 1>That really sums up this whole case for me. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't provide any evidence to support the wild claims

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<v Speaker 1>I'm making, and I don't think I used that word,

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<v Speaker 1>but if I did, I stand by it. Incredible stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>We will look into more of the Homeland Security Investigation

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<v Speaker 1>case files after this at a break. Welcome back. The

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<v Speaker 1>HSI report detailing the opening of Operation Puppet Master concludes

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<v Speaker 1>by stating, quote, HSI St. Paul is actively conducting a

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<v Speaker 1>thorough financial investigation to uncover the funding sources used by

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<v Speaker 1>these groups and to detect any illicit transactions enabling further

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<v Speaker 1>criminal acts. HSI St. Paul will use the results of

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<v Speaker 1>this financial investigation to identify those responsible, disrupt ongoing and

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<v Speaker 1>future unlawful activities, and pursue prosecution of the individuals involved.

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<v Speaker 1>And two weeks after the launching of Operation Puppet Master,

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<v Speaker 1>HSI opened another investigation called Project Whipple Shield, specifically focusing

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<v Speaker 1>on the identification of potential funding sources, the organizational structure,

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<v Speaker 1>and the, quote, predicate actions behind these campaigns. To quote

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<v Speaker 1>that HSI report, quote, this investigation is focused on identifying

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<v Speaker 1>and disrupting sophisticated, organized campaigns supporting and engaging in this

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<v Speaker 1>behavior and to prevent such unlawful activities. Regarding this investigation,

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer for the defense Kevin Ryok wrote, As with Operation

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<v Speaker 1>Puppet Master, HSI's investigation in Project Whipple Shield extended far

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<v Speaker 1>beyond any potential threat to law enforcement safety. It concluded,

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<v Speaker 1>with no evidence but obvious political animus, that numerous Twin

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<v Speaker 1>Cities unions and non-profit organizations were involved in a widespread

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy to violate 18 U.S.C. 111, assaulting, resisting, or impeding

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<v Speaker 1>certain officers or employees. And it surveilled and surreptitiously gathered

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<v Speaker 1>financial records generated by these organizations, despite the lack of

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<v Speaker 1>any clear connection between those organizations and criminal conduct, unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>At that press conference announcing the indictment, U.S. Attorney Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>Rosen said that Direct Action Minnesota is actually, quote, comprised

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<v Speaker 1>of members of subgroups like the Black Cat Workers Collective, unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>But the alleged quote-unquote subgroups extend far beyond just Black

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<v Speaker 1>Cat Workers Collective, as evidenced by a little diagram that

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<v Speaker 1>was presented to grand jurors for this indictment. This diagram

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. In

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<v Speaker 1>the alleges is connected to the 15 defendants. But surrounding

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<v Speaker 1>the DAM logo is logos for 15 other organizations, all

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<v Speaker 1>with arrows pointing towards Direct Action Minnesota and text reading

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<v Speaker 1>council member, as if all of these organizations are sending

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<v Speaker 1>council members to Direct Action Minnesota to plan or orchestrate

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<v Speaker 1>the direct action's in response to Operation Metro Surge. This

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<v Speaker 1>diagram that was presented as a slide to grand jurors

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<v Speaker 1>is titled The Conspiracy. and the conspiring organizations are listed

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<v Speaker 1>as Monarcha Rapid Response Line, which is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>rapid response networks in the Twin Cities. The other organizations

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<v Speaker 1>in this diagram, going clockwise, include Minnesota 5150, the organizers

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<v Speaker 1>of the No Kings protests, Minnesota Ice Watch, Minnesota Association

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<v Speaker 1>of Professional Employees, a labor union, Minneapolis Federation of Educators,

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<v Speaker 1>Local 59, Left Jab, a self-defense group, The Grease Pit,

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<v Speaker 1>a bike shop, Democratic Socialists of America, Black Cat Workers Collective, AFL-CIO, Workers'

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<v Speaker 1>Solidarity Circle, Whipple Watch, Veterans for Peace, Socialist Alternative, Showing

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<v Speaker 1>Up for Racial Justice, SCIU 26, Red Pine Revolutionary Collective,

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<v Speaker 1>and Ray Rainbolt Memorial Gun Club. HSI agent Desmond Garcia

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<v Speaker 1>testified to the grand jury regarding this slide, quote, This

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of a breakdown, like I mentioned earlier, with

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<v Speaker 1>members of DAM being associated with other organizations. Through the

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<v Speaker 1>course of the investigation, this is just a snapshot of

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<v Speaker 1>some of the other organizations that members are affiliated with.

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of comprise and make up Direct Action Minnesota, unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of the funniest things I've ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>and provides really, really useful insight into how HSI is

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<v Speaker 1>imagining the organizational structure of these protests, that all these

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<v Speaker 1>organizations are sending, quote-unquote, council members to this more secretive group,

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<v Speaker 1>Direct Action Minnesota, that orchestrates the most radical parts of

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<v Speaker 1>the anti-ICE protests. Regarding this diagram slide, the lawyer for

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<v Speaker 1>the defense wrote, If any individual was connected to both

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<v Speaker 1>DAM and any of these entities, the government considers the

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<v Speaker 1>entities to be conspiring. Fueled by visions of this vast

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<v Speaker 1>and irrational conspiracy, HSI surreptitiously obtained financial records of labor

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<v Speaker 1>unions and non-profit organizations as a part of a quote-unquote,

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<v Speaker 1>financial investigation into, quote, domestic terrorist financing, unquote. And let's

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<v Speaker 1>go over the financial probe aspect of this investigation. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the reports uncovered through Discovery revealed that HSI secretly

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<v Speaker 1>subpoenaed three years' worth of financial records from SEIU, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the biggest labor unions in the country, largely focused

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<v Speaker 1>on organizing the healthcare, public service, and service work sector.

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<v Speaker 1>Last March, HSI agents served an administrative summons, or an

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<v Speaker 1>administrative subpoena, to Fedwire to obtain wire transfers involving SCIU.

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<v Speaker 1>The wire transfers that the Federal Reserve Bank of New

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<v Speaker 1>York gave over to DHS range from January 1, 2023

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<v Speaker 1>to March 19, 2026. To quote the HSI report, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>Beginning in December, HSI St. Paul began a multifaceted approach

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<v Speaker 1>to identify and investigate individuals engaged in acts of violence,

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<v Speaker 1>destruction of federal property, intimidation of federal officers and employees,

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<v Speaker 1>and attempts to impede federal operations. Through this investigation, HSI St.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul has identified a network of individuals operating online and

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<v Speaker 1>in person who are engaged in this behavior by either

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<v Speaker 1>directly participating or by providing support through fundraising, planning, and organization.

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<v Speaker 1>The following report of investigation provides preliminary cursory details related

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<v Speaker 1>to wire transfers from various financial institutions to and from

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<v Speaker 1>Service Employees International Union, main financial institution, the U.S. Bank

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<v Speaker 1>of Minneapolis, Minnesota, unquote. And what did this investigation find? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>a quote-unquote preliminary analysis of the wire transfers, quote, revealed

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<v Speaker 1>that the SEIU National Union has numerous wire transactions to

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<v Speaker 1>and from SEIU local unions for various types of debits

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<v Speaker 1>and credits to include annuity payments, strike payments, strike supplies, investments,

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<v Speaker 1>union member dues, retiree dues, medical expenses, and pension fund expenses.

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<v Speaker 1>So they found nothing. They just looked through three years

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<v Speaker 1>of financial records from SEIU and only found regular transactions

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<v Speaker 1>that a union would have. They found absolutely nothing. And

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<v Speaker 1>this report ends with this incredible sentence, quote, this financial

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<v Speaker 1>investigation involving protest domestic terrorist financing continues.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sure it's going to continue. I'm sure it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to continue to find nothing. Because in the 95-page

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<v Speaker 1>indictment against these 15 defendants, One of the frequently recurring

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<v Speaker 1>topics in the overt acts in furtherance of the conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>is discussing how they don't have any money, how they're

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<v Speaker 1>constantly trying to fundraise to help continue the anti-ICE protests.

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<v Speaker 1>The indictment outlines them consistently struggling to pull together $ 5, 000.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, sure, let me make a few calls to

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<v Speaker 1>the SCIU real quick. I'm sure they'll just wire transfer

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<v Speaker 1>over the money. And the other thing is that this

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<v Speaker 1>three-year time span of the financial probe stretches way longer

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<v Speaker 1>than Operation Metro Surge and the protests surrounding ICE activists

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<v Speaker 1>in the Twin Cities. Because what's actually going on here,

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<v Speaker 1>and to the Fed's own admission, is that they're just

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<v Speaker 1>enacting NSPM 7, using whatever pretext they can concoct to

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<v Speaker 1>dig through the finances of entities and organizations alike. that

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<v Speaker 1>they view as political enemies. And it wasn't just SEIU.

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<v Speaker 1>HSI also obtained three years worth of bank records for

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<v Speaker 1>the Communication Workers of America, including donations and PAC spending.

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<v Speaker 1>The CWA union represents thousands of journalists and print and

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<v Speaker 1>broadcast news workers in the US and Canada. And as

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<v Speaker 1>a part of this financial probe, HSI obtained records for

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<v Speaker 1>one of the Canadian branches of this union, the International

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<v Speaker 1>Federation of Professional and Technical Engineers, with the administrative summons

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<v Speaker 1>requesting information from the Bank of Montreal. This very same

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<v Speaker 1>summons also demanded three years worth of financial records from

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<v Speaker 1>the environmental activist organization Sunrise Movement and the Sunrise Movement

0:26:17.060 --> 0:26:20.340
<v Speaker 1>Educational Fund. And as we will discuss, HSI was also

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<v Speaker 1>actively surveilling Sunrise meetings in Minnesota. Now, HSI also subpoenaed

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<v Speaker 1>financial records from at least one other entity that we

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<v Speaker 1>know of, a local Minneapolis activist organization called Voices for

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<v Speaker 1>Racial Justice, But rather than bank records and wire transfers,

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<v Speaker 1>HSI went after PayPal and Venmo transactions. Voices for Racial

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<v Speaker 1>Justice was founded in 1993 and describes itself as the

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<v Speaker 1>longest-running racial justice organizing training organization in the state of Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 1>The DHS investigative report regarding the subpoena into the organization

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<v Speaker 1>says that the website for Voices of Racial Justice, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>boasts several articles on ICE Out and or Truth, Freedom,

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<v Speaker 1>and Ice Out of Minnesota. Their website also provides links

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<v Speaker 1>to Defend the 612, Minneapolis St. Paul Whistles, and Monarcha

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<v Speaker 1>Rapid Response for upcoming trainings, unquote. That's basically the entire

0:27:20.030 --> 0:27:24.990
<v Speaker 1>justification DHS gives for probing into the donations and Venmo

0:27:25.090 --> 0:27:29.190
<v Speaker 1>and PayPal records for this racial justice organization, that their

0:27:29.270 --> 0:27:36.030
<v Speaker 1>website hosts links to other anti-ice organizations. Defense attorney Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Ryok wrote, quote, this broad coalition of financial records of

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<v Speaker 1>labor and social justice advocacy organizations done in secret and

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<v Speaker 1>with no articulable criminal predicate violates both the First Amendment

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<v Speaker 1>and these organizations' right to financial privacy. It also reflects

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<v Speaker 1>a sinister turn in our democracy when the party in

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<v Speaker 1>power feels no compunction about peering into the private finances

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:04.020
<v Speaker 1>of its political opponents, collecting that information and and storing

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:08.100
<v Speaker 1>it away for further use. The lawyer also notes, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>among other problems, the use of the administrative summons seems

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<v Speaker 1>to violate the Right to Financial Privacy Act, which requires

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement to provide notice to the account holder if

0:28:17.869 --> 0:28:21.890
<v Speaker 1>they are trying to obtain bank records via administrative subpoena. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>not only did DHS hide these inquiries from the account holders,

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<v Speaker 1>it told responding financial institutions, quote, you are requested not

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<v Speaker 1>to disclose the existence of this summons for an indefinite

0:28:32.530 --> 0:28:35.510
<v Speaker 1>period of time. Any such disclosure will impede the investigation

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<v Speaker 1>and thereby interfere with the enforcement of federal law, unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>Though the federal government would likely argue that HSI's use

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<v Speaker 1>of the administrative subpoenas without notice would fall under some

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<v Speaker 1>of the exceptions within the Right to Financial Privacy Act.

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<v Speaker 1>Most reporting I've seen on this batch of discovery has

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<v Speaker 1>focused on the financial probing of unions and activist organizations.

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<v Speaker 1>And Yeah, that is a big deal. That is very

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<v Speaker 1>serious and deserves a lot of focus. But most of

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<v Speaker 1>the investigative reports released as a part of Discovery pertain

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<v Speaker 1>to HSI undercover operations, surveillance and infiltration of anti-ice organizing

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<v Speaker 1>in the Twin Cities. And there is a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>interesting information in there that explains why the 90-something page

0:29:22.710 --> 0:29:26.330
<v Speaker 1>indictment is like that, why it has transcriptions of so

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<v Speaker 1>many regular in-person conversations, and text logs from Signal. To

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<v Speaker 1>quote defense lawyer Kevin Ryok, undercover HSI agents posing as

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<v Speaker 1>protesters or activists surveilled community meetings at church parks, libraries,

0:29:41.780 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>union halls, schools, and restaurants. Undercover agents secretly made audio

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<v Speaker 1>and video recordings of those meetings. And now I want

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<v Speaker 1>to quote from one of the HSI reports regarding their

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<v Speaker 1>use of undercovers. Quote, Prior to the initiation of Operation

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<v Speaker 1>Puppet Master, HSI deployed an undercover agent to participate in

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:09.270
<v Speaker 1>both virtual and in-person meetings within the Twin Cities area.

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<v Speaker 1>The objective of these activities was to gather intelligence regarding

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<v Speaker 1>any organized networks of conspirators operating online and in person

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<v Speaker 1>who may be providing material support to violent opportunists and

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<v Speaker 1>individuals engaged in impeding federal law enforcement, rioting, destruction of

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<v Speaker 1>federal property, and assaults on federal agents and officers, unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>So before Operation Puppet Master even started in January, the

0:30:33.790 --> 0:30:38.790
<v Speaker 1>month prior, HSI already had an undercover digging into the

0:30:38.910 --> 0:30:45.650
<v Speaker 1>anti-ice protests. In reports, this undercover is identified as 9843,

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<v Speaker 1>and he started out by attending a virtual ice watch

0:30:49.670 --> 0:30:53.260
<v Speaker 1>training on December 3rd, put on by a group called

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<v Speaker 1>States at the Core and a Chicago-based org called Protect

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<v Speaker 1>Rogers Park. A few days later, the agent quote-unquote acting

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<v Speaker 1>in an undercover capacity attended a publicly advertised in-person legal

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<v Speaker 1>observer training in Richfield, Minnesota. During the training, the agent

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<v Speaker 1>joined a rapid response network sponsored by a Minneapolis-based community

0:31:17.180 --> 0:31:22.620
<v Speaker 1>defense group called Monarcha via a QR code. On December 13th,

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<v Speaker 1>the undercover attended a Sunrise Movement action training called How

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<v Speaker 1>to Stop ICE and Build the Revolution, at a Universalist

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:36.790
<v Speaker 1>church in Minneapolis. After this meeting, the undercover was added

0:31:36.870 --> 0:31:40.310
<v Speaker 1>to the group's announcement chat and started messaging one of

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<v Speaker 1>the organizers about how people are verifying which hotels ICE

0:31:44.910 --> 0:31:48.890
<v Speaker 1>agents were staying at. A few days later, the undercover

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<v Speaker 1>reviewed a website with info, toolkits, and signal links for

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<v Speaker 1>ICE rapid response called Defend612. com. 612 is the Minneapolis area code.

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<v Speaker 1>On December 22nd, the undercover participated in a sunrise Zoom

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<v Speaker 1>meeting about a then-upcoming protest in front of the Hampton

0:32:10.250 --> 0:32:15.630
<v Speaker 1>Inn housing ICE agents. Per the investigative report detailing undercover

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<v Speaker 1>operations prior to the creation of Operation Puppet Master, during

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<v Speaker 1>this sunrise Zoom meeting, the undercover agent learned that there were, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>multiple signal chats dedicated to the hotel scouting and license

0:32:29.380 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 1>plate gathering. The gathering is a collaborative effort with quote-unquote

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<v Speaker 1>Whipple Watch, the known agitator group stationed outside the Whipple building.

0:32:38.630 --> 0:32:43.250
<v Speaker 1>HSI undercover agent 9843 was added by the team leader

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<v Speaker 1>for the quote-unquote action team to this signal chat group, unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>So beyond joining public signal chats, it appears the main

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<v Speaker 1>way this undercover was able to worm his way into

0:32:55.920 --> 0:33:00.950
<v Speaker 1>more private chats regarding Whipple Watch was through attending Sunrise

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<v Speaker 1>Movement meetings. In the motion outlining this batch of discovery,

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<v Speaker 1>the lawyer for the defense noted, quote, The main example

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<v Speaker 1>of this in these documents is is another Sunrise Movement

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<v Speaker 1>meeting from late January, titled Resistance Skills Training, held at

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<v Speaker 1>the Minneapolis Public Library. Two undercovers attended this training, and

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<v Speaker 1>the investigative report details about 25 people in quote-unquote breakout

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<v Speaker 1>sessions focused on recruiting, action, and de-escalation. The report notes

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<v Speaker 1>that Sunrise recommends using quote, police liaisons and protest safety marshals.

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<v Speaker 1>the quote-unquote action section, discussed sit-ins and the protests outside hotels,

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<v Speaker 1>with HSI noting in the report, quote, it was made

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<v Speaker 1>clear that the Sunrise Movement organization focused on quote-unquote peaceful protests.

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<v Speaker 1>Regardless of that, one of the undercovers at this meeting

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<v Speaker 1>quote-unquote privately informed someone that he works in construction and

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<v Speaker 1>could quote, build items that might assist other groups with

0:34:22.489 --> 0:34:29.090
<v Speaker 1>more quote-unquote direct action protests, unquote. And the undercover also

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:32.360
<v Speaker 1>told this person at the meeting that going to jail

0:34:32.410 --> 0:34:37.020
<v Speaker 1>quote-unquote did not bother him. So two undercovers attended this

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Sunrise Movement meeting discussing peaceful protests and noted that in

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.719
<v Speaker 1>the report, but still tried to talk to attendees about

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<v Speaker 1>quote-unquote building items. to assist in direct action protests and

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<v Speaker 1>that they're okay with going to jail because of it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk more about how undercover HSI agents began their

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<v Speaker 1>infiltration after this ad break. Welcome back. The main undercover

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 1>HSI agent who started to infiltrate the protests in December

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<v Speaker 1>of 2025, who's identified in reports as undercover 9843, also

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<v Speaker 1>operated a signal account with the screen name Peanut Butter Jelly.

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<v Speaker 1>And according to the defense, this undercover, quote, routinely exchanged

0:35:34.969 --> 0:35:39.090
<v Speaker 1>signal messages with people regarding purely First Amendment protected conduct,

0:35:39.790 --> 0:35:44.250
<v Speaker 1>messaging participants in the art money comms club signal chat

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<v Speaker 1>and stating, quote, also the interested in the financial organizing piece.

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<v Speaker 1>I like numbers and data and marrying that together with propaganda.

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<v Speaker 1>So would love to work on both sides of these groups. Unquote. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you're interested in the financial organizing piece. Yeah,

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:09.870
<v Speaker 1>I bet. I like numbers and data. Incredible. The interested

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<v Speaker 1>in the financial organizing piece. Also, as a part of Discovery,

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<v Speaker 1>we've learned that the undercover discussed fundraising messaging strategies and

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<v Speaker 1>offered to draft fundraising language for Twin Cities Direct Action

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<v Speaker 1>and design a protest flyer. One message with the undercover

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<v Speaker 1>using the screen name Peanut Butter Jelly reads, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>you're swamped with the speaking tour, but do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a suggestion for a donation platform? I believe Open Collective

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<v Speaker 1>and the idea of asking our own banks was discussed, unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the defense, these new discovery documents also detail

0:36:49.670 --> 0:36:54.719
<v Speaker 1>how Undercover's, quote, routinely surveilled individuals engaged solely in First

0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:59.020
<v Speaker 1>Amendment-protected activity, including the Whipple Watch Group that engaged in

0:36:59.100 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 1>peaceful observation of ICE vehicle activity in and out of

0:37:03.020 --> 0:37:06.930
<v Speaker 1>the Whipple building. conduct that both Judge Mendez and Chief

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Judge Schiltz have confirmed is not unlawful, unquote. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the DHS investigative reports details how agents captured the license

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 1>plate information of anti-ice protesters attending a Twin Cities Direct

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<v Speaker 1>Action quote-unquote art club meeting at the Prince of Peace

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<v Speaker 1>Lutheran Church. In the report, the undercover who infiltrated this meeting, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>described the meeting as democratic in nature in the sense

0:37:36.430 --> 0:37:41.170
<v Speaker 1>that everyone talked over each other, unquote. The undercover also

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<v Speaker 1>noted how most of the meeting discussed fundraising and how

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<v Speaker 1>to make social media agitprop. But while he was attending

0:37:50.510 --> 0:37:56.930
<v Speaker 1>this meeting, other HSI agents documented the license plates of attendees.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the defense, quote, Agents then used this information

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<v Speaker 1>to obtain the names of the attendees, searched social media

0:38:04.780 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 1>for pictures of these individuals, and compiled an intel workup

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<v Speaker 1>that included names, photos, addresses, personal information, including family and

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:18.009
<v Speaker 1>employment information, and vehicle registration information for each meeting attendee.

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<v Speaker 1>None of these individuals did anything other than engage in

0:38:21.810 --> 0:38:25.730
<v Speaker 1>protected First Amendment speech in a church meeting room. Yet,

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<v Speaker 1>now their personal information is memorialized in a DHS dossier, unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>The best idea why HSI decided to zero in on

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<v Speaker 1>the group of individuals allegedly associated with Direct Action Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>or formerly called Twin Cities Direct Action, relates to a

0:38:44.540 --> 0:38:49.490
<v Speaker 1>meeting held in early January. If you recall, HSI undercover

0:38:49.489 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 1>9843 was added to the Whipple Watch signal chat after

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<v Speaker 1>attending a few Sunrise Movement meetings. And according to investigative reports,

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<v Speaker 1>on January 10th, an undercover agent received a flyer in

0:39:04.910 --> 0:39:09.509
<v Speaker 1>the Whipple Watch chat for an upcoming emergency meeting on

0:39:09.570 --> 0:39:13.750
<v Speaker 1>the 11th. Remember, this was three days after the killing

0:39:13.810 --> 0:39:17.450
<v Speaker 1>of Renee Good. The undercover got permission to attend this

0:39:17.469 --> 0:39:21.620
<v Speaker 1>emergency meeting and was quote-unquote vouched by one of the defendants,

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:27.350
<v Speaker 1>Isaac Sand, identified in chats as Ike. This emergency meeting

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<v Speaker 1>was to share plans of an upcoming protest on July 23rd.

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:36.440
<v Speaker 1>And the HSI report claims that this meeting is where

0:39:36.820 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Twin Cities Direct Action emerged from, as that was the

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:44.060
<v Speaker 1>name of the signal chat created at the end of

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:47.900
<v Speaker 1>this meeting, and the Twin Cities Direct Action logo was

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:52.820
<v Speaker 1>first used on a flyer for this upcoming protest. On

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<v Speaker 1>January 19th, the undercover surveilled and attended a follow-up meeting

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<v Speaker 1>at a local restaurant in North Minneapolis, hosted by SEIU

0:40:01.790 --> 0:40:06.450
<v Speaker 1>26 and Socialist Alternative, to plan this action on the 23rd,

0:40:07.050 --> 0:40:11.310
<v Speaker 1>which was then identified as a general strike. The HSI

0:40:11.350 --> 0:40:15.040
<v Speaker 1>report describes this meeting as a, quote, general discussion on

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<v Speaker 1>the upcoming Walk Out on Ice event being held on

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<v Speaker 1>January 23rd. And as usual, this report doesn't actually allude

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 1>to anything illegal being discussed in this meeting. And this

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<v Speaker 1>strike and march action later took place on January 23rd

0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:36.009
<v Speaker 1>and was attended by tens of thousands of people. Planning

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<v Speaker 1>such an action is an ordinary protected First Amendment act.

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<v Speaker 1>Around this point, and especially following the killing of Alex Preddy,

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<v Speaker 1>DHS started really ramping up the surveillance and infiltration of

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:53.820
<v Speaker 1>anti-ICE protests in the Twin Cities. They started using multiple

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:59.109
<v Speaker 1>undercover agents, not just 9843, and began surveilling and trying

0:40:59.130 --> 0:41:02.410
<v Speaker 1>to infiltrate many more types of protest beyond what was

0:41:02.489 --> 0:41:07.230
<v Speaker 1>organized by Twin Cities Direct Action. Two HSI reports detail

0:41:07.250 --> 0:41:10.989
<v Speaker 1>surveillance of individuals and groups attending protests the No Kings protests,

0:41:11.350 --> 0:41:15.469
<v Speaker 1>and an anti-war protest last March. The report on the

0:41:15.650 --> 0:41:19.230
<v Speaker 1>Stop the War in Iran protest held on March 7th

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<v Speaker 1>specifically mentions 5150, Veterans for Peace, Sunrise, and PSL. To

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:31.319
<v Speaker 1>quote the report, Undercover 5022 and Undercover 137 did not

0:41:31.420 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 1>have extended interactions with any members of the crowd. Many

0:41:35.020 --> 0:41:38.760
<v Speaker 1>people were also not identifiable slash recognizable due to wearing

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:43.450
<v Speaker 1>face coverings. Undercover 5022 observed that during the event, several

0:41:43.489 --> 0:41:48.259
<v Speaker 1>people appeared to be conducting event overwatch or quote-unquote marshalling.

0:41:48.820 --> 0:41:52.319
<v Speaker 1>They were wearing reflective vests, were wearing red hats, and

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<v Speaker 1>carried radios. They were located at the edges of the crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>Investigative note, based on training and experience, Undercover 5022 is

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<v Speaker 1>aware that organizations involved in the activities that are subject

0:42:04.290 --> 0:42:08.270
<v Speaker 1>of this investigation, utilize tactics including placing quote-unquote marshals to

0:42:08.310 --> 0:42:12.660
<v Speaker 1>service lookouts and conduct internal communications and security at events, unquote.

0:42:13.420 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 1>While testifying to the grand jury, Agent Garcia claimed that

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<v Speaker 1>every single individual being investigated has criminal predicate. Quote, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that is abundantly clear, not only in guidance,

0:42:28.070 --> 0:42:30.610
<v Speaker 1>but it's just principles as far as this investigation is,

0:42:31.330 --> 0:42:35.089
<v Speaker 1>no one is ever investigated or looked at or even

0:42:35.210 --> 0:42:39.660
<v Speaker 1>researched on for First Amendment protected activities. Every single individual

0:42:39.700 --> 0:42:43.720
<v Speaker 1>that we have investigated, there is criminal predicate to why

0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:47.140
<v Speaker 1>we are investigating them. Either statements that they have made

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:52.940
<v Speaker 1>that are criminal to their actual participation in overt criminal acts, unquote.

0:42:53.530 --> 0:42:56.450
<v Speaker 1>Now to quote the lawyer for the defense, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>as the above examples demonstrate, HSI was obtaining wide swaths

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:05.700
<v Speaker 1>of financial data from labor unions and non-profits with zero

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:11.130
<v Speaker 1>quote-unquote criminal predicate. Undercover agents captured dozens of First Amendment

0:43:11.150 --> 0:43:16.230
<v Speaker 1>protected conversations on surreptitious recordings, many of which did not

0:43:16.290 --> 0:43:21.190
<v Speaker 1>involve any of the defendants or unindicted co-conspirators in this case.

0:43:21.930 --> 0:43:26.910
<v Speaker 1>Agent Garcia's statement is simply not true, unquote. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you can think after considering all

0:43:30.070 --> 0:43:34.570
<v Speaker 1>the examples I've just read that HSI had criminal predicate

0:43:34.650 --> 0:43:39.759
<v Speaker 1>for every single organization or person that was under investigation

0:43:39.890 --> 0:43:43.719
<v Speaker 1>or surveillance. That's just a lie. Because if they had

0:43:43.780 --> 0:43:47.580
<v Speaker 1>criminal predicate, they would be charged. There would be charges

0:43:47.660 --> 0:43:50.779
<v Speaker 1>against more people. There could be charges against some of

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:55.770
<v Speaker 1>those other 15 conspiring organizations in that diagram shown to

0:43:55.790 --> 0:43:59.270
<v Speaker 1>the grand jury. Oh, and by the way, the DOJ

0:43:59.350 --> 0:44:04.410
<v Speaker 1>lawyer who convened this grand jury, Deputy Attorney General Brian Lynch,

0:44:05.030 --> 0:44:09.500
<v Speaker 1>was also a January 6th insurrectionist who entered a restricted

0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:14.100
<v Speaker 1>zone alongside other rioters. And as this indictment was being

0:44:14.140 --> 0:44:17.860
<v Speaker 1>put together, the government forced the court to vacate the

0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:22.890
<v Speaker 1>convictions against Oath Keepers involved in January 6th. This grand

0:44:22.930 --> 0:44:27.080
<v Speaker 1>jury was literally put together by a January 6th insurrectionist

0:44:27.500 --> 0:44:32.340
<v Speaker 1>to indict protesters for conspiracy to impede. At the exact

0:44:32.380 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 1>same time, the federal government was vacating convictions of other

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:40.839
<v Speaker 1>January 6th insurrectionists. The last thing I want to note

0:44:40.980 --> 0:44:44.990
<v Speaker 1>about this batch of discovery is how it also details

0:44:45.070 --> 0:44:50.630
<v Speaker 1>instances of counter surveillance. In one report, a self-described community

0:44:50.670 --> 0:44:54.460
<v Speaker 1>member walks up to a government vehicle and containing HSI

0:44:54.500 --> 0:44:59.710
<v Speaker 1>agents conducting surveillance, also staged to support an undercover infiltrating

0:44:59.770 --> 0:45:03.330
<v Speaker 1>an event, and the community member asks the agents inside

0:45:03.489 --> 0:45:06.410
<v Speaker 1>if they are ICE. They say no and point to

0:45:06.469 --> 0:45:09.750
<v Speaker 1>a safety vest and a helmet in the vehicle. The

0:45:09.790 --> 0:45:13.730
<v Speaker 1>community member then responds by saying okay, and then tells

0:45:13.770 --> 0:45:16.410
<v Speaker 1>them that he'll have to run the vehicle's plates to check.

0:45:17.150 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 1>DHS investigative reports also detail that people at meetings warning

0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:26.140
<v Speaker 1>that ICE could be trying to infiltrate those very meetings

0:45:26.700 --> 0:45:30.319
<v Speaker 1>and telling all the attendees to not say anything that

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:33.950
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't say directly to an ICE agent, which is

0:45:34.050 --> 0:45:37.350
<v Speaker 1>really good advice when that meeting is being attended by

0:45:37.390 --> 0:45:41.230
<v Speaker 1>an ICE agent. And one of the funnier investigative notes

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<v Speaker 1>in this batch of discovery relates to an undercover's infiltration

0:45:45.590 --> 0:45:49.930
<v Speaker 1>of a self-defense workshop. Quote, Due to the physicality of

0:45:49.969 --> 0:45:56.390
<v Speaker 1>the event, Undercover 5022's concealed body-worn audio recorder erroneously fell

0:45:56.550 --> 0:45:59.549
<v Speaker 1>to the floor of the gymnasium near the end of

0:45:59.610 --> 0:46:04.149
<v Speaker 1>the training. The undercover briefly left the gymnasium, realized she

0:46:04.230 --> 0:46:07.730
<v Speaker 1>no longer had the device, and returned to the gymnasium

0:46:07.810 --> 0:46:11.390
<v Speaker 1>to retrieve the device from the floor. During these approximately

0:46:11.450 --> 0:46:16.240
<v Speaker 1>three minutes, the undercover was not present in the gymnasium. So...

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<v Speaker 1>While this batch of discovery has given us a closer

0:46:18.860 --> 0:46:22.610
<v Speaker 1>look at the extent of the surveillance of anti-ice protests

0:46:22.830 --> 0:46:26.610
<v Speaker 1>and HSI's method of investigation, the government did not hand

0:46:26.690 --> 0:46:29.650
<v Speaker 1>over everything. It was supposed to as a part of discovery.

0:46:30.130 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 1>And the lawyers are requesting more documents. This batch of

0:46:34.219 --> 0:46:37.560
<v Speaker 1>discovery is missing, among other things, quote, special reports of

0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:41.459
<v Speaker 1>investigation that the government has admitted withholding, claiming that they're

0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:44.580
<v Speaker 1>unrelated to this investigation, even though they were created and

0:46:44.660 --> 0:46:48.280
<v Speaker 1>filed within it. The disclosures admit to any investigative reports

0:46:48.620 --> 0:46:52.609
<v Speaker 1>that document HSI's domestic surveillance, but were placed in other

0:46:52.670 --> 0:46:55.830
<v Speaker 1>case files. They admit documents and communications related to the

0:46:55.870 --> 0:47:00.250
<v Speaker 1>initiation and supervision of HSI's undercover operations, and they admit

0:47:00.350 --> 0:47:04.430
<v Speaker 1>downloads of the undercover phones and undercover laptops used by

0:47:04.489 --> 0:47:07.340
<v Speaker 1>undercover agents in this case to communicate with the defendants

0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:11.420
<v Speaker 1>and others, unquote. And those documents are useful not just

0:47:11.460 --> 0:47:13.980
<v Speaker 1>to us, so we know how these investigations are being

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:18.390
<v Speaker 1>carried out, but also for the defense, because reports of

0:47:18.410 --> 0:47:22.779
<v Speaker 1>government surveillance of protesters and activists during Metro's surge are

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<v Speaker 1>relevant to the defendant's motion for, quote, selective prosecution and

0:47:27.100 --> 0:47:31.400
<v Speaker 1>outrageous government conduct, as they constitute additional evidence of DHS

0:47:31.420 --> 0:47:36.660
<v Speaker 1>targeting individuals based on their political beliefs and First Amendment-protected conduct, unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that is my not-so-brief overview of this batch

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:46.020
<v Speaker 1>of discovery reports. I'll have links to the court documents

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<v Speaker 1>below if you want to take a look yourself. And

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully we'll get even more discovery in these next few months.

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