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Speaker 3: My friend lied to her nursing school program and I

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Speaker 2: Oh well, then you should use it.

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Speaker 3: I twenty female, have a friend named Sam twenty three

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Speaker 3: female who is a nursing student. She's been getting real

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Speaker 3: crazy lately. By the way, this comes from, should she

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Speaker 2: I'm Sophia, I'm Dakota, I'm Keon, and.

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Speaker 3: We're ready to give good advice. Goofully, Bob. We don't

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Speaker 3: have all the answers. We only know what we do

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Speaker 3: to let us know what you would do. In the comments,

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Speaker 3: and Op says, among other things, she's planning a wedding

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Speaker 3: for twenty eighteen in which I am a bridesmaid and

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Speaker 3: she has already bought her dress despite not having a

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Speaker 3: date or venue. She's trying to get the bridesmaids to

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Speaker 3: go dress shopping with her and is being really demanding,

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Speaker 3: calling all of us childish and liars for not being

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Speaker 3: able to go exactly when she wants. She already demoted

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Speaker 3: two maid of honors and kicked out two other bridesmaids,

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Speaker 3: and keeps randomly adding more girls she barely knows. One

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Speaker 3: for everyone's dresses, and then was lectured in front of

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Speaker 3: vacation when she should be busting her butt off working

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Speaker 3: on the wedding. The remaining bridesmaids are all just about

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Speaker 3: ready to back out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I would be in that camp one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: This is the girl that we know is a liar

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Speaker 3: who had the wedding.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, liar lady, liar lady.

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Speaker 3: Uh okay, because I am one of her closer friends,

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Speaker 3: but she's not really one of mine. Unfortunatelyf She has

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Speaker 3: confided in me about an incident in her nursing program.

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Speaker 3: She was previously in a different nursing program and did

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Speaker 3: Now she's getting a certificate instead of a degree and

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Speaker 3: is once again not following the requirements. She's not allowed

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Speaker 3: thin ice. Apparently she was late the other day and

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Speaker 3: and even pictures of the process of her faking a

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Speaker 3: absolutely be removed from her program if I report this.

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Speaker 3: She's lied, cheated, and generally doesn't have the knowledge or

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Speaker 3: someone may pass away under her care someday. But if

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Speaker 3: I report her using these messages and she sees the evidence,

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Speaker 3: she will absolutely know it was me who reported her.

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Speaker 3: I'm afraid that she'll go nuclear and try to ruin

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Speaker 3: all of our mutual friends, which includes most of my friends.

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Speaker 3: I honestly couldn't care one way or the other about

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Speaker 3: But she's so demanding of other people and constantly feels

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna just go ahead and say you don't need

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Speaker 3: I don't think I agree. I was gonna say the

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Speaker 2: Yeah she will.

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Speaker 3: She will make her own.

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Speaker 2: Bed and lay in it.

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Speaker 3: You don't need to do it a gosh darn thing.

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Speaker 3: On top of this, my school is a duty to

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Speaker 3: in a different program. So my choices are, ope she

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Speaker 2: I would just delete those messages.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I genuinely think she's gotta get caught

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just completely remove myself from any any

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Speaker 2: She will mess up her own life. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if she's already gotten things because she's been laid

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Speaker 3: all these times, she's definitely gonna be late again, And

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's in school, so we don't know if she

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Speaker 2: she's still in school for it. Yeah. And because of

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Speaker 3: I just think that she'll ruin her own career and

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Speaker 3: it would probably be easier for OP in terms of friendships.

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Speaker 2: Don't get tangled up anymore.

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Speaker 3: Just cut this friend off. Comment one says I would

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Speaker 3: what worries me too. Both options feel like tempting fate.

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Speaker 3: Common two says, I have been a nurse for more

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Speaker 3: than twenty years. If this is happening, then for the

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Speaker 3: love of God and the sake of any future patients.

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Speaker 3: Report it. Work to secure anonymity first, but report it.

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Speaker 3: that depends on her down the road. I wouldn't worry

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Speaker 3: all that much about her poisoning your friendships. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: I guess we were wrong.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I still think that. I don't think

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Speaker 2: I think you're signing up for a headache either way.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of that's kind of sad.

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Speaker 3: I said, okay, because I felt bad that she didn't

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Speaker 2: I'd be like, hah, like like right now, like the

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Speaker 3: Onto the update. As I said in the last thread,

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Speaker 3: I think I just needed a punt to the butt

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Speaker 3: I just didn't even think you needed to do it.

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Speaker 3: to do it. I called the director and spoke to him.

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Speaker 3: that she faked the towing receipt and said her professor

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Speaker 3: Nothing else has really happened on that front. She made

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Speaker 2: They just talked to her and they were like, look,

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Speaker 3: If she hasn't been kicked out by now, I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure anything will happen. I've made my piece, done my duty,

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Speaker 3: far as the wedding goes, I don't think it will happen.

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Speaker 3: she had fired two maids of honor. She then kind

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Speaker 3: I did ask few friends for advice because Sam had

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Speaker 2: This sounds like, you know what, she might need to

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Speaker 2: be alone for her whole life.

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Speaker 3: This sounds like, not my circus, not my monkeys. Let's

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Speaker 2: Get those monkeys out of my sight.

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Speaker 3: I sat down and thought about my own anxiety levels.

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Speaker 3: I thought about how weird and jealous Sam had been

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Speaker 2: Literally, never speak to this person again. Yeah, she's great gray,

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Speaker 3: She's great, gray about her wedding.

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Speaker 3: She's great gray about her job. Slash her education.

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Speaker 3: And that's all that's going to stick with her. But

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Speaker 2: I rejected my friend that I used to be in

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Speaker 3: You're flip flopping all over the place.

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Speaker 2: I met her three years ago at a Rex soccer league,

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Speaker 2: We still joked and texted all the time, and Gene

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Speaker 3: That's terrible.

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Speaker 2: I feel terrible for her, and she's been spending more

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Speaker 2: something together firm. That last weekend, we were drinking some

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Speaker 3: WHOA, oh, that's in't this wine? That's crazy?

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Speaker 4: I guess there's kisses in this wine.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I can't believe we just did that.

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Speaker 3: It must be the wine and nothing else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, whose orchard? Who's vineyard did this wine come from?

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Speaker 2: Henry Kissingers? I don't know. Did he make a did

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Speaker 2: he have wine? They're all they were all making they're

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Speaker 3: What orchard? What vineyard did this come from? Or on

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Speaker 2: That's a deep cut. That was a pretty deep cut

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Speaker 4: Cut off ties with you?

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Speaker 2: She seemed incredibly hurt and asked if it was because

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Speaker 2: though I don't think she believed me, and to be honest,

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Speaker 2: it probably is the reason. As I mentioned earlier, unless

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Speaker 3: I think that's fair. I think it's you know, you

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Speaker 2: It's simply the way of the world. I probably have issues.

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Speaker 2: To join the club, budd an issue, though we all

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Speaker 2: but that's how I am. I'm in no way trying

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Speaker 3: I would just say I'm not into her anymore. I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Guys, would it be crazy if I just said

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Would it really be that much of a stretch?

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Speaker 2: My sister has also dated some a holes in the past,

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Speaker 2: I don't falter for. I reached out to Jeane to

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Speaker 3: Of an over exaggeration.

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Speaker 4: I called it, though, didn't. I did say. She's like,

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Speaker 4: I think she could cut you off completely.

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Speaker 2: It's like, well, she just didn't have your fortitude, op

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's like, that's it, we're done. I know that

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Speaker 5: No, sir, that that kiss must have been like the

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Speaker 3: I guess so, seven second kiss and she's in love.

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Speaker 2: The kissing your vineyard makes a strong brew?

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Speaker 3: What fruity and the dry?

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Speaker 2: Yeah wine connoisseur over here, Opie continues, I think this

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Speaker 2: I try to explore if there's romantic potential here. I'm

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Speaker 3: Honestly, No, we don't go she terrorists.

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Speaker 2: She's being a love terrorist.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. We don't negotiate whether or not

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it is important to be like

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Speaker 3: But I would be second guessing.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day. If you're like, I

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Speaker 2: love you platonically. Yeah, And then she's like, well, if

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Speaker 2: other again. Well, all you can do is say, I

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Speaker 5: I just brings up a really good point here, opiece,

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Speaker 5: totally the backup plan. Are you the first person that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Because if that's the that's the case, backup plan

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Speaker 4: She's trying to ball you into relationships or at least

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Speaker 2: We have some comments here. Comment number one. If you

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Speaker 2: don't feel for her, you don't feel for her, you

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Speaker 2: need to confront your sister with her BS simply advise

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Speaker 2: her you can't help that you've moved on and you're

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Speaker 2: in the past, but that was in the past. You've

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Speaker 2: You still care for her, but you can't view her

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Speaker 2: That's not healthy and sets a precedent for how any

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Speaker 2: sort of relationship with Gene may go with your feelings

440
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,159
Speaker 2: being ignored, Advise her. While you understand that Gene is

441
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,639
Speaker 2: her friend and she wants what's best for her, she

442
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,159
Speaker 2: cannot possibly think it's okay to dictate who you involve

443
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,320
Speaker 2: yourself with romantically or who you choose not to. It's

444
00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 2: none of her business and also makes you feel as

445
00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 2: if she doesn't have your best interest in mind. Because

446
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,040
Speaker 2: you told her how you feel and she's not listening

447
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,439
Speaker 2: and instead trying to sell you her dream. But what

448
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:09,399
Speaker 2: if it's a good dream.

449
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 3: What if it's a dream.

450
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 6: I have us and six kids and we're living in

451
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 6: the woods of Washington.

452
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 4: That's your dream, Dad.

453
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,200
Speaker 6: It always rains, and we sparkle in the sun, and

454
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 6: we're not really related to each other, but we've all

455
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 6: come together through circumstance, and we one day meet a

456
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,719
Speaker 6: girl who notices.

457
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,199
Speaker 4: Us from Arizonia.

458
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:35,880
Speaker 2: These snobby Italians keep sticking their freaking hands into our business. Anyway,

459
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:36,640
Speaker 2: that's the plot of time.

460
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 5: But also I love how your sister is preaching to

461
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 5: you now that like this is the soulmates. Where was

462
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,880
Speaker 5: this preaching back in the day?

463
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,640
Speaker 3: Hey, sister, if you love her so much, why don't

464
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 3: you marry her? Hey?

465
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 2: That would be crazy.

466
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 3: Plot twist.

467
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,959
Speaker 2: If you don't feel something, you don't feel something, you

468
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,360
Speaker 2: don't owe her anything. And she had you and someone

469
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 2: else on the table. She chose someone else, no issue

470
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,919
Speaker 2: with that can't help how you feel. But then you

471
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 2: moved on and you can't help how you feel. It's

472
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 2: never all right to be coerced into a relationship. Don't

473
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 2: let that sort of behavior slide, because then they may

474
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 2: take other liberties. If you end up feeling something in

475
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 2: the future, cool, but let it be on your terms,

476
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 2: and if Gene cares enough, she'll wait and give you

477
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 2: the space. She can choose to move on if she likes.

478
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: But no one should live your life for you, especially

479
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 2: not your sister, who's shown signs of obvious bias and

480
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 2: lack of actual care for your best interests. Try and

481
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 2: let Jeane down gently but firmly. Again, ask her to

482
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 2: please respect your decision as you respected hers, and not

483
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 2: involve your family. Offer space or a break from the

484
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 2: friendship if needed, but make your decision clear in no

485
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 2: uncertain words. Set boundaries. Hopefully you can move on with

486
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 2: your friendship with Gene and relationship with your sister on

487
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,919
Speaker 2: a healthier road. And there is an update. So do

488
00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 2: we think it's gonna be a good update with healthy boundary?

489
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 6: No?

490
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 3: I don't, haha.

491
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 2: I think Gene is gonna go full Phoenix force mode

492
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 2: and try to rip everything apart and pit friend against friend.

493
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 3: I think Jean's about to go a little bit.

494
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 2: Wild over under that they realized that. I think six

495
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 2: sixty percent sixty percent dating my sister. Odds, Yeah, Kean.

496
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 4: I think Jean's about to get a little gray.

497
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 2: All right, because it's a gray area on what gender

498
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 2: she's attracted to. Nice I personally don't see that happening.

499
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 3: Well, let's fine.

500
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 2: I wanted to pose it update, had some people messaging

501
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 2: me asking for an update. Bh, here it is. I

502
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 2: had brunch with my sister the day after the first

503
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 2: thread went up. I actually showed her the thread, and

504
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 2: she spent half of our meal reading through it. She

505
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,919
Speaker 2: agreed it wasn't her place to butt in and apologized

506
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 2: for making the situation more difficult for me. Okay, she

507
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 2: said she's gonna be on my side and I can

508
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: count on her going forward.

509
00:22:58,600 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 3: Well, there we go. Look at that.

510
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 2: So we've fixed it with our sister. We fixed it

511
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 2: with words, sister, fix her. She also agreed with a

512
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: lot of the posts that I should probably take a

513
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 2: clean break or at the very least have a serious

514
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 2: distance between Jeane and myself. So that's what I've been

515
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: doing until last night. Last nay, UNTI last night?

516
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 3: What happened last night? Tell me?

517
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 2: I went to a party in Brooklyn.

518
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 4: They don't talk like that in Brooklyn.

519
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 2: Ah, Yeah. I went to a party in Brooklyn, Sadam Brooklyn, Yeah,

520
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: for a friend's birthday, and took an uber back home

521
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 2: to Lower Manhattan. Around midnight, my front desk call asking

522
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 2: if they should let Jeanne up. I was confused but

523
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 2: said yeah. She comes up, looking much happier and healthier

524
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 2: than I've seen her in months. She hugs me and

525
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 2: says she misses me and asks if we can just

526
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 2: talk and hang out. She saw me at the party

527
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: earlier on Instagram and our mutual friends said I left early,

528
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 2: so she came over. That's a little bit too much

529
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 2: sleuthin for my taste. Maybe send me a text first

530
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: before you show up to my place.

531
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 3: I think she still has a crush on you.

532
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 2: I think she likes you, feels like it she was

533
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 2: sleuthing on you.

534
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's kind of stalking you.

535
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 2: I've been drinking, so things are less awkward, and we

536
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: start talking like old times about what we've been up

537
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: to over some beers in my tiny kitchen. Again, she

538
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 2: kisses me and I don't stop her this time.

539
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 6: Okay, So I hope he took it some time and

540
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 6: he said I've considered it, and I'm kind of into.

541
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 2: It, just sipping on that Henry Kissinger vintage.

542
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 3: He said, kiss, Kiss, I am falling in love.

543
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 2: She ends up spending the night.

544
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 3: Oh and got a plot twist.

545
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 2: You can put money on that. It's gonna be a mess.

546
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 5: It was a little it was a little kiss kiss,

547
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 5: and then maybe a little bit of some bang bang.

548
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: Now when the Henry Kissinger vineyard is involved with liplocking

549
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: and it's this complex, I don't think it's gonna be clean.

550
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 3: What about if it's involved with pop locking and drop it,

551
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 3: pop locking and dropping it, we have to drop it.

552
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 2: I don't think either of them are dropping it right now. God,

553
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: they're slopping it and we have a little bit of

554
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 2: story left here. I don't anticipate this ending well.

555
00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,959
Speaker 3: I think there is a chance.

556
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, maybe it's good in the short run.

557
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 3: I think there is maybe a chance because she took

558
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 3: the time away, felt you know, got healthier, kind of

559
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: had that we don't know if she was single, but like,

560
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 3: you know, had that space to find out who she

561
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 3: is outside of this relationship that was so bad. So

562
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 3: I honestly think the space away from op was pretty

563
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 3: good for if she had such strong feelings, as she says,

564
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: and then she took that space still felt like she

565
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 3: had those feelings, and then came to Ope again and

566
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 3: was like, hey, I've took a little time, Well what

567
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: are your thoughts.

568
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: My humble prediction is that they're gonna wake up. She's

569
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 2: gonna be like, oh my god, this was the best.

570
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 2: So now we're like, we're on the road now to

571
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: being toget and he's gonna be like, ooh, I don't

572
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 2: know what last night meant, and that's gonna and it's

573
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: and then it will implode immediately.

574
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 3: Well, hope not.

575
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: That's my guess. Hope not waking up this morning. I

576
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: still don't know what to think. I left while she

577
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 2: was sleeping to pick up coffee. When I came back,

578
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: I heard the shower and sat on the bed waiting

579
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: for her. When she got out, she realized I wanted

580
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 2: to talk about last night, so she asked if she

581
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: could speak first. She said she knows I'm confused, knows

582
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 2: how it feels like she's my backup, and knows how

583
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: it feels like she's a rebound, but none of that

584
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: is true. She says, she loves me and wants to

585
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: do whatever is necessary to prove it and make it work.

586
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: I told her, I'm feeling confused and don't feel the

587
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 2: same type of love for her that she thinks she

588
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: feels for me. She cried, asking if she could do

589
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 2: anything to prove it. I told her, I think it's

590
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 2: best if we take some time apart to do our

591
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 2: own thing and let all these high emotions settle down.

592
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: If necessary, we can pick up this discussion with cooler

593
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: heads and maybe even become friends again. She cried, more

594
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: agreed and left a few hours ago.

595
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 3: And you hit the nail on the head, Dakota. It

596
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 3: really just kind of bullseyed.

597
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 2: That really hit it. That's the sound of the bull's eye.

598
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 4: That's the sound of the bull's eye.

599
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,479
Speaker 3: It's the sound of the bull running.

600
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 2: I'm still feeling shell shocked over the whole thing and

601
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 2: have been pacing around my apartment. I think I made

602
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: the right decision about taking a clean break for now.

603
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 2: I appreciate all the great advice last time, So thanks again.

604
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 2: And that is the end of that story.

605
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all can't be friends, right and now for sure.

606
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 4: Op, you kind of messed up with uh.

607
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, with with sleeping with her when you knew that

608
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 3: she liked you.

609
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 5: She she came over and said, let's talk. And all

610
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 5: you guys did was not talk.

611
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 2: You guys were yet another casualty of Henry Kissinger. It

612
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: happens red wine.

613
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 3: You get you, you get you, and you just you

614
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 3: just don't even see it coming.

615
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 2: Never drink Kissinger's red wine. If you want to the

616
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 2: simple evening Kissinger's red wine. It's gonna get crazy war crimes.

617
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 3: But that's the end of that story. And we've got

618
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 3: another one coming right up.

619
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: Sam Here, we're gonna get back to the stories. But

620
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: here's three of us bads from our sponsors.

621
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 3: It's been years and my friend is still sabotaging my relationship.

622
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: Why are they still you're a friend.

623
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 3: And this comes directly from the r slash Okay storytime

624
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: supared it. In grade school. I had two best friends,

625
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 3: Tansia and Amory. We were so close. They would stay

626
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 3: at my house all the time. I stayed it there

627
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 3: was once in a while, but the hangout place was, oh,

628
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 3: my house, you had the cool house. I was very

629
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 3: shy about going to Tansia's house because I had a

630
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 3: crush on her brother Markle. By the way, this comes

631
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 3: from Pretend Repeat four one sixt seven and if you

632
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: want to spit your own stories, go to the r

633
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 3: slash Okay storytime subreed it and we're here to give

634
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 3: good advice. Goofy. But we don't have all the answers.

635
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: We only know what we do, So let us know

636
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 3: what you would do in the comments, and Op says,

637
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: we were all very close right up until the end

638
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 3: of our freshman year of high school because I was

639
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 3: pregnant and too tired to hang out all the time. Fair,

640
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: freshman year of high.

641
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: School pregnant, It's fair to be too tired, you're pregnant.

642
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: Back in middle school, Amory used to meet boys over

643
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 3: the Internet or over the phone through people she knew

644
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 3: in real life, and would tell the boy that she

645
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: was me thin, blonde hair and blue eyes. She was,

646
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: in fact, the complete opposite, dark hair, brown eyes, and chunky.

647
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: I have to pause, because are we just got.

648
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 3: A gloss over the fact that you were pregnant freshman

649
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 3: year of high school?

650
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 2: Well, hey, you know what happens, sure, but.

651
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: Like we have no information about that. Hope. You just

652
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: said I was pregnant in high school and then we

653
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 3: just kept moving.

654
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Hey, that's what you gotta do when you're pregnant.

655
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: High school. I gess she keep moving forward. Also, Caitlin,

656
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: you're right, it's been is equally as iconic as day

657
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: and night.

658
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 3: When she would call these boys, she would make me

659
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 3: tell them that I was hurt. She even described me

660
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 3: as herself in great details, so they would think I was.

661
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: Gross white, so white? Why don't no friends? These are

662
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: no friends, no friend of yours.

663
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: I didn't see why she was doing it. I thought

664
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: she was so pretty and I was envious of her. Yeah,

665
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: she was chunky, but she didn't look bad at all.

666
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 3: She also never did this with Tansya. I then had

667
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: a baby at and stopped hanging out with friends. After school,

668
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 3: I didn't play sports anymore, and I graduated a year early.

669
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: I am so impressed with you. Ope, you had a

670
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: baby in high school and you were I'm so impressed

671
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: with you.

672
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: You got pregnant and fully locked.

673
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, Like like we didn't, we don't

674
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 3: have any information, which if you don't want to share it,

675
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 3: that's fine. I'm just very impressed with you. So my

676
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: close friends ended up being pretty distant for about six years.

677
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 3: I spoke with Tansia, and not long after Markle ended

678
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 3: up inviting me to a party. We hooked up and

679
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 3: didn't really talk much after that whatever, I didn't care.

680
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: Four years later he messaged me telling me that he

681
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 3: should have kept in contact after our last encounter and

682
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 3: that he had liked me since we were in school.

683
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. Well, after quite a bit of pushing,

684
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: I finally gave in and agreed to meet up with

685
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 3: them again, this time at a bar. I only agreed

686
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 3: because Tansia and Amory were going to be there too,

687
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 3: and I missed them. Life sometimes pulls people in different directions,

688
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 3: so it had been a while since I had seen them.

689
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 3: While at the bar, we were all drinking, having fun,

690
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 3: taking selfies, catching up, dancing, just having a blast. Then

691
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 3: Markle started thlirton, and I of course flirted back because

692
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 3: I always actually had a pretty big crush on him.

693
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 3: About an hour or so went by and I could

694
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: see Amory wasn't having fun anymore. I asked her what

695
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: was wrong, and she told me she was fine. I

696
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 3: knew she wasn't, but if I had pushed, she would

697
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: have probably made a scene, So I just went on

698
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 3: having fun with Tanzya and Markle. By the end of

699
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 3: the night, Markle and I ended up hooking up yet again.

700
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 3: This time it was pretty amazing.

701
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: The next morning I woke up, whoa, whoa, whoa, you guys,

702
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: we're not gonna gloss over that.

703
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: You can say it. What was it like?

704
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: Backscratching? Amazing? There you go, because it feels so good

705
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: when you scratch that itch on your back. You get

706
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: a little backscratching, That's what that means.

707
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: The next morning, I woke up said bye to him

708
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 3: as he was the only one awake. Later that night

709
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: he called me. It was kind of shocked because of

710
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: the last encounter. He was wasted and told me that

711
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: he liked me but was unsure if we could date.

712
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,479
Speaker 3: He wouldn't tell me why for a little while, and

713
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: I was like, well, that's fine. I guess I'll let

714
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: you go and see you in another few years. He

715
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: wasn't okay with that and finally told me that Amriya

716
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: told him that I was shady, couldn't be trusted, that

717
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 3: I only liked black men. This is such odd lies.

718
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: I told him he could believe what he wanted, and

719
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: when he was ready to have a conversation when sober,

720
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 3: I'd gladly talk to him. He kind of freaked out

721
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: a little, but I ended up letting him go. We

722
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 3: didn't really talk much once again. Three years later, dang,

723
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: time jumps all over the wazoo.

724
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: We're time travelers. How's your kid? Yeah, how's the baby?

725
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: That's what I'm asking. We haven't heard anything about this baby.

726
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: The story is not about the baby.

727
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if maybe that was a typo, like maybe

728
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 3: op is now pregnant. I don't know. I feel like

729
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 3: it may have been a typo.

730
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: No, she had a baby, but we had a baby.

731
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: He was never mentioned.

732
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: She said she had the baby.

733
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 4: She said she was pregnant, and then she did say

734
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 4: she had the baby.

735
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: I know, that's what I understood. I read the story.

736
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: I know, Claire.

737
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 4: I'm as baffled as you are.

738
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: We're all baffled. The baby is fine, the baby has

739
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: well behaved. Her friends, however, are stinky.

740
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 5: Maybe Opie, Maybe Opie is the baby, Opie's baby, Opie's baby.

741
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: Let's go.

742
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: Three years later, I go to Tansia's place for New

743
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: Year's and Giz, who's it? You guessed it? Her brother

744
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 3: Markle Megan, Megan's there. Okay, we don't know anything about

745
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: the baby. He apologized for what happened two years prior

746
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 3: and said he shouldn't have let other people Amory get

747
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: into his head. I asked him to elaborate on what

748
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: else she said. He told me all the same stuff

749
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 3: he had already told me before, but then added that

750
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: they slept together the very next night after he and

751
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: I were together. Was this Tansia's brother? Yeah, okay, I

752
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: thought this was Amory's brother the whole time. Knew Whooo.

753
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 6: No.

754
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 3: The night he called me and told me what she

755
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 3: said about me, he said he did it because he

756
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: didn't think he'd ever have a chance with me after

757
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 3: he messed it all up by letting her get in

758
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: his head. I'm sorry, I'm not even gonna make that joke.

759
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 3: We actually had a nice, long overnight conversation.

760
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 4: I have to make the joke. You cannot pull that

761
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 4: on us. Was like, no, what I'm gonna make a joke?

762
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: I can't make the joke. It's so obvious.

763
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: You can't go ahead of me.

764
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: There's no point because it's right there.

765
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: Go ahead and make that joke.

766
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: I don't know what the joke is I shan't.

767
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: What's the joke? You have to do it the joke.

768
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 2: If you don't make the joke, there's no evidence that

769
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 2: you're funny. Sure there is, what's the joke about?

770
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 4: Do it?

771
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 3: And I let the next morn so no head. We

772
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 3: did talk here and there, but I felt betrayed by

773
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 3: both of them, so things didn't go as he hoped.

774
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 3: Fast forward another three years, Markle came over to my

775
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 3: house just for a friendly catchup and a couple of drinks.

776
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: With this like this three years half he's a freaking comment.

777
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 2: This is crazy, just rough around every three years years

778
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 2: He's like.

779
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 4: He's like Penny Wise. He just comes every like three years.

780
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: Like and no, I take my long wrist.

781
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 3: He apologized again, said he was wrong, and asked if

782
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 3: there was any chance of us having any kind of

783
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 3: relationship after three years. No, this is after like fifteen years,

784
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 3: because he comes back every three years.

785
00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 4: He does this every excuse.

786
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 5: You guys do drinks, then you do each other, and

787
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 5: then he gets like, ah, you know what, she's in

788
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 5: my head.

789
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: I can't be with you.

790
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go be with Amory.

791
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 5: And then he's like I thought I blew it with you,

792
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 5: even though you know what, I'm not going to finish

793
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 5: that one.

794
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,479
Speaker 3: I told him I was unsure after all the years

795
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 3: of back and forth and the whole Amory thing. I

796
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: told him I'd have to think about it. You got

797
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 3: this guy wrapped around your finger, apiece vice versa. To

798
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 3: be honest, after about a month of hanging out almost

799
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 3: every day after work, things were going great, and I

800
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 3: did agree to our relationship. We hung out all the time.

801
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 3: As soon as Amory caught wind of the relationship. Why

802
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 3: is Amory even remotely around any of you?

803
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 2: The only wind Amory should be catching at this point

804
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: is a fart.

805
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 3: She had the nerve to call me out of the

806
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 3: blue after years of not talking to her, because she

807
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 3: ruined what could have been for Markle and me, just

808
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 3: to tell me Evea or not I'd heard him. He

809
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 3: deserves someone who's going to be good to him.

810
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: Markle and me.

811
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 3: Markle and me, and at the end of the fifteen

812
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: years is a really sad passing.

813
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 4: Is this the first time you guys have ever heard

814
00:35:59,120 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 4: the name of Markle?

815
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: Know how?

816
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

817
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: What that's not true? The little child's name is Markle.

818
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: Oh, that's fair. But the first real life Markle. First,

819
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: I r L Markle, Markle and me and it's just

820
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 2: Op and Markle's is just a big dog.

821
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 3: Who's who is Marley and Me?

822
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? It is a golden No.

823
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 4: I thought it was a lab, isn't it?

824
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 3: It might be a lab. You're I'm thinking, I think

825
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 3: you're thinking. I think I think it is a lab.

826
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: And I think you're thinking of Marmaduke. Those words still

827
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: echo in my head to this day. She's the one

828
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 3: that hurt him, not me. After several months of being together,

829
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 3: we were invited out by his sister, Tansya. She picked

830
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 3: us up from my house. I had no idea Amory

831
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 3: would be in the car too. She was in the

832
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 3: back seat. I sat between them. Both. Things were awkward

833
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 3: at first, Then somehow things loosened up.

834
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 4: Why oh, something definitely loosened up.

835
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 2: There's no way that was awkward, right. Just everyone was

836
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: super chill. Just cruise through that one, right.

837
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: Your boyfriend's sister and your boyfriend's ex. Everyone was talking

838
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 3: and enjoying the drive. Then all of a sudden, Amory

839
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 3: spews out of her mouth. Heymarka, remember when we thought

840
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: I was pregnant with your baby.

841
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: It's just a why.

842
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 3: That's such a weird thing to say.

843
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: With a strong choice of words.

844
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 3: My heart dropped. I instantly got so annoyed and angry,

845
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 3: but I kept my mouth shut and just listened to

846
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: them go back and forth with their crap. The baby

847
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: was definitely not his, as the baby was clearly fathered

848
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 3: by a black man. He never told me he thought

849
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 3: he was the father of the baby after their one

850
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: night stand, the night after he and I were together,

851
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 3: I was floored. I couldn't believe my eyes and ears.

852
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: They argued for what felt like an eternity. Thank goodness,

853
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: Danzia finally spoke up and told them it wasn't the

854
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 3: time or place, especially because I was sitting right there

855
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 3: stuck between them. I stopped hanging out with her. Why

856
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: were we hanging out with her before? Unfortunately, Tansy and

857
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 3: Amory are still friends, so every party or get together

858
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 3: she's there. I felt like there was nothing I could

859
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 3: do about it. Markle and I had a baby two

860
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 3: years after being together, and we gave her my father's

861
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 3: first name and my other bestie's middle name. It's so

862
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 3: unique and rare for a girl, but we both love

863
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 3: it so much while I was pregnant with her. We

864
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 3: found out Amory was also pregnant. She was a month

865
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 3: or two behind me in the pregnancy. The first time

866
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: I met her daughter, she was about six months old.

867
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: No one told us her name before that day. Oh no,

868
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: that woman gave her daughter. Yes, the one she thought

869
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 3: was Markle's unname so similar to our daughter's name that

870
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: if you aren't paying attention, you wouldn't know which name's

871
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 3: being set.

872
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 4: I thought you said your daughter's name was so.

873
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: Unique that yeah, which is clear that she stole it.

874
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 2: She just changed a couple vowels around.

875
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: I was disgusted and appalled. I couldn't believe she could

876
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 3: be so jealous and hateful toward me that she would

877
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: name her child almost the same name as Markle's child.

878
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: It's like Amarona, yeah, and ama ammaroney, Oh my star.

879
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 3: Am I wrong to think she's crazy and maybe obsessive?

880
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: She's been crazy and obsessive for fifteen years.

881
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, how could you know you're not wrong?

882
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 3: She's been crazy and obsessive since middle school.

883
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: You know you're not wrong.

884
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 3: She literally catfished men with your image.

885
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: It's okay, you can know you're not wrong. And still

886
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 2: want to hear other people tell you you're not wrong, but

887
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 2: please tell me you know you're not You.

888
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: Know that because you're not wrong. I've told him I

889
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: don't want it to go anywhere she is because she's crazy.

890
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 3: He told me she's like family. Huh. He just said

891
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: she's like family. He's freaking slept with her. She's like family.

892
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be an awkward family reunion.

893
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 3: So I have to deal with it again.

894
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 4: Hey, Op, jealousy is the highest form of flattery.

895
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 3: I think Marcle needs a stand up for you more.

896
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: Every Thanksgiving, Christmas and any big get together, she's there.

897
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: He's playing with her kids and talking to her like

898
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: nothing ever happened. He needs to create distance.

899
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 4: Especially if it's honestly.

900
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 3: I would go to him and say, hey, I understand

901
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 3: that you can't tell her not to come because your

902
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: sister's inviting her, but I would appreciate if you created

903
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 3: some disc since because she still has feelings for you.

904
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 5: Or I think do it in a in a way

905
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 5: where you're like, you're not trying to control them, We're like,

906
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 5: do you see what she's trying to do?

907
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: Exactly?

908
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 5: Because if you were like stop talking to her or

909
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 5: like you got to create distance. It's like, oh, you're controlling. Yeah,

910
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 5: she don't want to seem like and you're not. But

911
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 5: I can see how they get get twisted.

912
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 3: It's so annoying and hurtful after all she's done. He

913
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: doesn't get it. He doesn't get the way I feel.

914
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: You used to be such good friends, yeah, until she

915
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 3: ruined us. Try to ruin us again by blaughing about

916
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 3: you almost being her baby daddy and then named her

917
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 3: kid almost the same name as ours. Like, literally, how

918
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 3: does he not first time she lies about you, tries

919
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 3: to make you look bad so she can sleep with them.

920
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 2: It's just like, this person has an issue with me,

921
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 2: and if you're on my team, which as my partner,

922
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: I would hope you are, within reason, always on my team,

923
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: you need that you have a problem with her as well.

924
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 2: M m, cause she's got problems with me.

925
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 3: What fack do you not get? Am I wrong for

926
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: being upset about her giving her daughter a name so

927
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 3: similar to ours? I told them she's crazy and obsessed

928
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 3: with him. He says he doesn't see it, but I'm

929
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 3: just overthinking. But there is a little bit left to

930
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 3: this story. Any final thoughts Amria, Amory, Amory, Amory, get

931
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 3: get her out a here.

932
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: Amory needs to scram mey.

933
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: My advice is just have a conversation with your husband again.

934
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: Sit down and say all of the grievances that you

935
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 3: have with Amory, everything that she's done to you guys,

936
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 3: and say this is why I'm not comfortable with her.

937
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 3: I know you can't ban her. I feel like you're

938
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 3: not really on my side.

939
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: You gotta be on my team.

940
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 3: Man, Let's be on the same team.

941
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: Man.

942
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: You're gonna if you're gonna, if you're gonna be like,

943
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 2: if you're gonna, if you're gonna orbit like a comment,

944
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 2: I'm not down, all right. You gotta come down to earth.

945
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: You gotta make landfall.

946
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: What if we saw her only every three years?

947
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 2: What a dream?

948
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 3: MARKL and I just had our second baby last December

949
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: and just had our fifth anniversary last month. Danzya ended

950
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: up getting pregnant six weeks after we got pregnant with

951
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 3: our second baby by Amory's brother. I thought for sure

952
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 3: Amory was gonna be around forever.

953
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: What a brother, Dayton. In this circle, everybody's with everyone's brother.

954
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 3: I was not looking forward to family gatherings anymore with

955
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: his side of the family. Since we had our second baby,

956
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 3: Amory hasn't been to any gathering yeam turns out things

957
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 3: aren't good with Tansia and the baby's father. Yes, Tansia

958
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: isn't destroying her own friendship.

959
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: So yes, Amory has a problem with her brother.

960
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 3: No no, no no. So Amory and Amory's brother was with Tansia, Yeah,

961
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 3: was having a baby. Tansia is having a falling out

962
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 3: with Amory's brother, and because of that falling out, is

963
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: now having a falling out with Amory too.

964
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Tansya has.

965
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: Been going through a really rough patch in her life

966
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 3: and the father has the baby. I don't believe Tansia

967
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 3: and Amory are talking much anymore since that situation happened,

968
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 3: so it's possible I don't have to worry about seeing

969
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 3: Amory at all at the family gatherings. It's been almost

970
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 3: a year of not having around giving me weird looks

971
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: and not talking to me, but making it a point

972
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 3: to talk to Markle right in front of me, but

973
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 3: not when I'm not near them. It's been so nice

974
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 3: and peaceful at family gatherings. So am I the a

975
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: hole for not wanting to be around someone so toxic

976
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 3: and not wanting my kids around them too.

977
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: No, I would say absolutely not you.

978
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 3: However, even though Amory is gone, the problem is still there.

979
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 3: You still have the underlying issue. Your relationship is going to,

980
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 3: you know, experience the same thing down the line with

981
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: another person if we don't set these boundaries.

982
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 2: Now one hundo percent.

983
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 3: Do So let's have that conversation again.

984
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 2: Your partner can't just be chumming it up with your enemy.

985
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 3: But that's the end of that story.

986
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 2: That was the end. That was the end of seth story.

987
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,440
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988
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,879
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989
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 2: My fiance cheated with a married team mate, and I

990
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: told the wife everything.

991
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 3: I'm telling her all of it.

992
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 2: I thirty five female found out a few days ago

993
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: that my partner of nearly five years, who proposed to

994
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: me less than a year ago, has been emotionally cheating

995
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 2: on me.

996
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 3: Yikes.

997
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: It escalated to a secret meetup and a shared kiss

998
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 2: with another woman who is married.

999
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 3: Double yikes.

1000
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from user dull Ad seventeen

1001
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1002
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Speaker 2: go to the r slash Okay storytime, subbured it and

1003
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: we're here to give you good advice. Goofully. But we

1004
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: don't have all the answers. We only know what we do,

1005
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: So let us know what you would do in the comments.

1006
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: As Op says, they have known each other for what

1007
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: must be less than six months. They met due to

1008
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: joining the same sports team where they hold leadership positions.

1009
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 2: I've spent the last few days going through all the

1010
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: typical motions, how could this person betray me? Holding on

1011
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: to her good parts, giving excuses that she has been

1012
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: in a bad place mentally, and basically putting together a

1013
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: compromise for us to work through this. I offered a

1014
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 2: route to exploring rebuilding if she cut off this other

1015
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: person on a personal level, but I didn't push that

1016
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 2: she had to leave the sports team completely, although it

1017
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 2: was on the table. This has been an hour outlet

1018
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: of huge mental health support for her. When me and

1019
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: my ex were in conversation, she said she would unlive

1020
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: herself without the sports team. Okay, rudle. She asked how

1021
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: I could expect her to give up everything she has

1022
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: worked for.

1023
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 3: There because well, you gave up your whole marriage.

1024
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to either give up that. I guess,

1025
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 2: to give up the marriage. Maybe find a different team,

1026
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: find a different team with this person not there. I

1027
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: don't know. There's gotta be more than one team for

1028
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: this thing, right, A reminder that she has been there

1029
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: for just under six months. It was at this point

1030
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 2: I was starting to feel that I really did not

1031
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: matter to her anymore. And yes I was naive and

1032
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: I was a fool. What a fool believes? I had

1033
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: it confirmed last night again after having to drag information

1034
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: out of my now ex ie that they have been

1035
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: together after both being asked to leave, and it has

1036
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 2: escalated to spicy sleep.

1037
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: Wait, I'm sorry they were asked to leave the team.

1038
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 2: Maybe they asked I don't know. I'm not sure. So

1039
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 2: whilst she left my heart on the line message on

1040
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 2: red and I tortured myself that she hadn't replied she

1041
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 2: was having spicy sleep with this other person. Here's what

1042
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: brings me to the would I be the a hole?

1043
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: I want to message the affair partner's wife. I feel

1044
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: that I would want the same grace of knowing that

1045
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: they have been together and had spicy sleep in the

1046
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: immediate aftermath of this. If she's been doing anything similar

1047
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: to what I had been doing, I just don't think

1048
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: that is right. Of course, there is a chance the

1049
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 2: wife already knows and she may also lash out, but

1050
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 2: I genuinely feel horrible at the thought of this being

1051
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: hidden from her. An additional would I be the a

1052
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: hole that I know? Is more based on my rage

1053
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: right now, and maybe I need to think over. I

1054
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 2: want people at the sports team to know I do

1055
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: feel that these things always come out, but I think

1056
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 2: there is also a real delusional aspect of them thinking

1057
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: that they can keep this a secret and that they

1058
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: can just carry on as normal and nothing will change.

1059
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: The sports team is a tight knit group of women.

1060
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: They know both myself and the other wife on a

1061
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: personal level and have for years, So I was considering

1062
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 2: messaging someone around the team to essentially out them. To

1063
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: be honest, this is something I know I probably will regret,

1064
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: but I was interested to hear takes on it solitarity

1065
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 2: to all those who have been cheated on. My partner

1066
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: always railed against people that did this sort of thing.

1067
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 4: She and she railed that guy.

1068
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 3: She sure did was it a lady who ope, Yes,

1069
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 3: I don't know Op's gender.

1070
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 2: I think, well, the team is a tightly tight knit

1071
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 2: group of ladies.

1072
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 3: Her uh ope's wife and cheated with another woman.

1073
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: OP is thirty five female. Yeah, there are ladies, ladies, ladies, ladies, ladies.

1074
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 3: They're probably playing rugby.

1075
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: One of her best friends has been in a two

1076
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: year affair with a married man and she absolutely destroyed

1077
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 2: her over it. The nerve, So would I be the

1078
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 2: a hole?

1079
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 3: Honestly no, I don't.

1080
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: Think you'd be the a hole. But I don't think

1081
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 2: it's gonna bring you peace in the long run, and

1082
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: that's what you should prioritize.

1083
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 4: It's just gonna make things messier. But I think that.

1084
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 3: Person deserves to know, and you have, I think a

1085
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 3: pretty big steak in it. Like you're not just an

1086
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 3: outside observer, You're pretty actively involved in this mess. So

1087
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 3: I think they deserve to know.

1088
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: You know. It's close enough that I would probably, yeah,

1089
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 2: I would be letting the affair partners spouse know. But

1090
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Speaker 2: when it comes to like the team and stuff, I

1091
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: don't think you need to do that just the just

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00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 2: the wife, because you are right that it will come

1093
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: out by itself. But like you don't need there's no

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00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: peace in that comment number one. Sooner or later everyone

1095
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 2: sits down to the banquet of their consequences like that,

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00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: I say, f it, may as well make it in

1097
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: all you can eat buffe. Now go full scorched earth.

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00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: It's not peace. There's no peace.

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Speaker 3: No, just tell the wife or the partner.

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00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 2: Comment to not the a hole. Please tell her wife

1101
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: so she knows to get tested. You should get tested

1102
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: asap because it likely was already physical. ID tell the

1103
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 2: sports members so they know not to trust them.

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Speaker 3: No, don't. I don't think we need.

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00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 2: I mean you could. You're not even necessarily wrong for

1106
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 2: doing it. I just think it's gonna end up being

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Speaker 2: a net negative.

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Speaker 3: That's what I think. Yeah, Like I think tell the

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00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 3: wife because she deserves to know. But I think like

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00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 3: everything beyond that is just gonna be a lot of

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00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: drama for you.

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Speaker 2: They should feel ashamed of themselves. And I do agree

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00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: with that.

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Speaker 3: I think that there's like with the sports team, there's

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00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 3: no way that they're not like COULDA be able to hide.

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Speaker 2: That comment three? I agree with another comment or the

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00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 2: sports dur tactic only goes so far. Will it make

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00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: you feel validated, good and justified, et cetera. Definitely, is

1119
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: it ultimately going to fill the hole that your ex

1120
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 2: left behind? No, that healing is unfortunately achieved via time,

1121
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: acceptance and self love and forgiveness. Stuff that takes a

1122
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 2: lot of time. All of that being said, I don't

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Speaker 2: think anyone will judge you for going one way or another.

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Speaker 2: Do I think the wife should know? Yes? Do I

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00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: think the team should know? Well, in my opinion, they

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00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 2: probably already do we go.

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Speaker 3: I agree with that comment one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Do what you gotta do. Ope, I'll support you regardless,

1129
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 2: op says genuinely. Thank you for your reply and the reasoning.

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00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: I think my instinct is that I won't get what

1131
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: I want from message the team, and I think you're

1132
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 2: right that they probably already know, and if they don't,

1133
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: the truth will always come eventually. And we do have

1134
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: an update. I think you told the spouse. I think.

1135
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 3: You listened to that commentary.

1136
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 2: I think they appreciated it too. Update. I messaged her wife.

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00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 2: She responded immediately, and it turns out that she had

1138
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 2: been wanting to reach out to me but wasn't sure

1139
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: how it would be received. Heck, yeah, you guys are

1140
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 2: living the same experience, says.

1141
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 5: Both want to tell each other about the geating trauma

1142
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Speaker 5: bon trauma, bon trauma.

1143
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: Bon Yay, you guys should date now, that wouldn't go wrong.

1144
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 2: We talked all night and she did not know they

1145
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: had slept together, but was extremely grateful to know. I

1146
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: found out some stuff that added some weight to the

1147
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 2: theory that this has been going on for longer than

1148
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: my ex had been letting on. Both X and a

1149
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 2: fair partner have also been giving almost identical excuses to

1150
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: me and the other victim. I decided not to message

1151
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,479
Speaker 2: anyone at the sports team. It turns out the coach

1152
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 2: there knows about what has happened, and we've got a

1153
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 2: little bit left until we've read all of this story.

1154
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: And I like where we're at me too.

1155
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 3: I think that we've had the conversations. Everything's coming to

1156
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 3: a nice little rep in a nice little bow, and.

1157
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 2: Now we shall sit at the banquet of our consequences

1158
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 2: pretty good. I got super wasted last night and messaged

1159
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 2: a barrage of words at my ex, then deleted the conversation.

1160
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 2: So I have major ha anxiety from that today. But

1161
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to focus on one foot in front of

1162
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 2: the other. Then I woke up wasted and downloaded a

1163
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 2: dating app and I have since deactivated it. I'm a mess,

1164
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: but that's okay.

1165
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 3: Sorry.

1166
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: I also reached out to my ex's sister and told

1167
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 2: her what had happened and that it was cheating, and

1168
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 2: asked her to just check in and look out for her,

1169
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 2: because I think when my ex realizes what she has done,

1170
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 2: there's a huge chance of some very self destructive behavior

1171
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 2: to close off. Absolutely f people who cheat. They are

1172
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 2: the scummiest people, true dett And that is the end

1173
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 2: of that story. It is, and I agree with your diagnosis.

1174
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 3: But we have some comments from the video. My fiance's

1175
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 3: son moved in with me now his ex won't stop

1176
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 3: harassing me. And this was posted December tenth, twenty twenty five.

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00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 3: Uh tldr is from story three. Opie has been with

1178
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 3: the partner for almost ten years. Buddy lies about everything,

1179
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 3: even tiny things like eating a piece of bread. She's

1180
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 3: trying to be honest and loyal, but he keeps getting defensive,

1181
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 3: gas lighting her and making her feel crazy.

1182
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: Is this guy literally gollum?

1183
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 3: I didn't need to plate. When she finally called him out,

1184
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 3: he twisted it into her wanting another guy. Now Opie

1185
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 3: is wondering if she's wrong for being upset or if

1186
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 3: his constant lying is the real problem. If you're curious

1187
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 3: to know the full story, you can go watch the

1188
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 3: full video.

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00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: I take out as big of a loan as the

1190
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 2: bank gives me, and I put all of my money on.

1191
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: It's the constant lying that is the problem.

1192
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 3: I think it's the lying.

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Speaker 4: Your honor And we have the comments here from anything Jam. Yeah,

1194
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 4: what that guy did.

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00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 5: In the last story is a notorious tactic.

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00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:56,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 5: Notice how he took very little accountability but then turned

1198
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 5: it around back on her that she was a problem,

1199
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 5: that there was a disharmony in the relationship because she

1200
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 5: just kept being offended by his trickery. That is not

1201
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 5: what caring, mature people do. This is what children do

1202
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 5: to get their own way and to get out of

1203
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 5: situations where either they don't feel like doing something or

1204
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 5: they're just trying to get out of trouble with a

1205
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 5: man child. It's mostly because they don't feel like doing

1206
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 5: something and then don't want to get in trouble for

1207
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 5: lying about what they promised.

1208
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 2: Sounds pretty accurate to me.

1209
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 3: E yepno lies there.

1210
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 5: And we have one comment here from King Snorby for

1211
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 5: that story and from some experience. Sometimes it is the

1212
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 5: family dynamic that they were raised in that causes them

1213
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 5: to be that way and usually requires medical intervention. They

1214
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 5: have to learn their triggers and learn not to have

1215
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 5: the impulse to lie. I did someone like this once

1216
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 5: and worked with them over the course of three hours,

1217
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 5: but every time their family was involved, they resorted to lying. Again,

1218
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 5: not saying this is for every liar, but it is

1219
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 5: food for thought that sometimes they genuinely don't know how

1220
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 5: to function without lying because of their family dynamics. I

1221
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 5: was able to tell when they would.

1222
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 4: Lie in was able to read around the words very easily,

1223
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 4: but it took time and learning their behavior. I do

1224
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 4: not recommend just send them to a therapist, haha.

1225
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 3: Send them over to a therapist and they're not your problem.

1226
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: Any Sometimes people lie enough and then it's just like

1227
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 2: it becomes their food. They must they are sustained.

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Speaker 3: On the line. But that's the end of those comments.

1229
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 3: So and then the end of the episode. So if

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00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,160
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