WEBVTT - Chapter 4 | My Girl Susan 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:05.119 Heads up, this series contains graphic descriptions of violence. 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:12.560 That's your dang through the ricorum, please, Susan Gallaberth. 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:17.239 When Susan Galbreath was called to testify in the Jessica 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:21.840 Current murder trial, she started with an apology for the judge. 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:25.440 I'd like to have first apologize. 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:25.760 For being late. 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:28.120 I show you I didn't mean to be late today. 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:28.960 I want to mentor. 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:33.159 For okay. 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:36.280 This set the tone for the rest of her testimony. 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:41.320 She was kind of scattered, hedging on her answers, chewing 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:47.080 gum loudly. The attorneys on both sides even approached the 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:53.440 judge to complain, I'll be responsive, She's saying. Susan's not 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:59.600 answering the questions, She's meandering. Susan sounds nothing like the 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:03.480 woman who so clearly had written and talked about her 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:08.000 fervent commitment to solving the murder. Like this is how 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:11.000 she describes her feelings about Jessica's case. 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.960 Yeah, I've like followed Core TV stuff like that, and 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:19.880 so I of course was at the time there were 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:23.320 so many murders in Mayfield going on that it was 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:25.959 I was just you know, dumbfounded by it. It was 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:28.840 just you know, and here was another one, and it 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.280 just all of them kind of captured and interest in me, 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:31.560 you know. 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:37.200 And this strikes me as odd considering there weren't many 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:41.160 murders in Mayfield around two thousand. Police said it had 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:43.200 been the first in over a year. 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:45.040 Now. 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:47.640 I can't ask Susan what was going on in her head, 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:51.040 but the way it looks to people who Susan accused 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.800 is that she's trying to downplay her involvement in the 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:58.240 case and with some of the people embroiled in it. 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:00.320 So what about jar is. 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:09.200 Jeremy Adams is a name you've heard before. He's the 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:13.880 unwitting father of Jessica Currn's baby boy, Zion. You might 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:17.359 remember Jessica's friend describing their encounter. 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:22.640 He kind of forcibly took her around the building and 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:27.000 had said they had six It was like two seconds 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:31.200 they were around there and came back and he walked 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:32.120 off and. 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:33.600 That was that. 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:39.280 She said. How disappointed Jessica was to find out that 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:46.399 Zion was Jeremy's son. She was very upset. Another significant 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:52.160 fact about Jeremy Adams. He was initially charged with Jessica's 0:02:52.200 --> 0:03:04.480 murder when the Mayfield police department bungled the investigation, he 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:09.839 got off, and when Susan Goalbreath began her citizen investigation, 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:57.680 suddenly the blame shifted elsewhere. This is Graves County, Chapter four, 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:10.880 My girl, Susan, You've now heard the story the prosecution 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:15.000 used to convict Quincy Cross, Tammer Caldwell, and Jeff Burton 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:20.320 a kidnapping, a drug field orgy and rape, necrophilia, and 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:23.520 a murder. But many of the people I've talked to 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:26.239 about this case have told me that if I want 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:29.279 to figure out exactly why Quincy was arrested in the 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:33.720 first place, then bits of truth lies somewhere in the beginning, 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:39.919 back when police had a much simpler theory and alternate suspects. 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:47.640 Their main one was Jeremy Adams. Jeremy Adams was only 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:51.040 twenty when Jessica was killed, a skinny kid with a 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.640 buzz cut and the whisper of a mustache on his 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:57.000 top lip. He was known as a local troublemaker with 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:02.960 a growing rap sheet charges like promoting contraband, robbery, and assault, 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:08.240 but nothing that merited serious prison time until two thousand 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:13.680 and one, when he was arrested for Jessica's murder, Jeremy 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:17.360 wasn't charged alone. His co defendant was another person you've 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:21.919 heard of, Carlos Lolo Saxton, Jessica Curran's boyfriend at the 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:26.600 time she was killed. Remember her best friend said about Carlos, I. 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.760 Mean she laughing, she really liked him. 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:34.000 He and Jeremy were both indicted the year after Jessica's killing, 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:38.480 Jeremy for murder and Carlos for complicity to commit murder, 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:42.239 and the person who was among the first to point 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:46.200 the finger at them was none other than Victoria, called well, 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:50.040 the state's key witness against Quincy Cross. 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.520 Do you want to be called the Viking? 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:59.239 Or let it matter? 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:03.120 In September of two thousand, more than one month after 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:07.960 Jessica's body was found, Victoria told the very first investigators 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:12.039 on this case that she had overheard Jeremy, Carlos and 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:16.960 others talking about Jessica. This tape has been edited for length. 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:23.160 Oh, Jeremy, they pay back to the book. 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:27.839 Okay, the recording is not very clear, but she's saying, 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:31.520 Jeremy said, payback's a bitch and we're going to get 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:32.760 her good. 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:34.080 Why would pay back be a bitch? 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:37.320 Whether wordn't for going to Jeremy or I guess they 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:39.120 found out that they was Jeremy. 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:44.839 Okay, So maybe we got upset because she was telling 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:48.200 everybody but the label was alive or something. 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:49.719 Okay. 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:53.080 Jeremy was in a relationship with a girl named net 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:56.919 Todd back in two thousand. They even had kids, and 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:00.680 the rumor around town, which then became the first theory, 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.719 was that Jessica went to confront Jeremy about child support. 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.159 Maybe she even threatened to tell net that the baby 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:12.920 was his. This made Jeremy lash out, and then he 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:21.840 accidentally or intentionally killed her. Jeremy and Carlos have been 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:25.640 tough to track down, but net Todd lives about twenty 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:28.760 minutes outside of Mayfield, and she's one of the many 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:33.840 people I've reached out to for this story. Hey, my 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.720 name is Maggie. We have been looking into a really 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.960 old case from a long time ago, Quincy Cross. I 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:43.520 don't have anything to do with it, but she's not 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:45.840 exactly happy that I'm standing here. 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:49.160 I don't know anything about that La property. 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.320 There aren't that many details in the press about the 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:59.000 case police built against Jeremy, and there's even less out 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:02.440 there about the charge which is against Carlos. On top 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:05.280 of that, many of the files in the case were 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:09.800 destroyed in December twenty twenty one when a devastating tornado 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:14.640 hit western Kentucky and leveled the Graves County Courthouse. A 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.800 lot of those records were kept there. So getting the 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:22.840 full story is tough. But I've got a secret weapon. 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.960 Well at least, shall Kate never say that I don't 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:31.120 keep you informed with the going zones and the gossip. 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:36.319 So Darryl Woolman, ay, I love your face, Jeez, America, 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:37.079 Trump and. 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.680 Shovels. She got me a partial recording of the two 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:46.600 thousand and one grand jury proceedings against Jeremy and Carlos. 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:48.520 Would you state your name for the record player? 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:48.719 Check? 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:50.520 Is Tam Partner and I'm Jim. 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:51.400 And how are you employing? 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:53.520 I'm employed by the City of Mayfield as a police 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:55.000 detected I actually have. 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:59.199 A grand jury proceedings are secret. These tapes aren't usually 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:03.320 made public. We are lucky to have this insight, and in. 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:08.040 That capacity, you are here to be testifying some cases 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:11.000 now being brought against the Jeremy Adams and also Carlo Saxon. 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:11.600 Is that correct? 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:11.839 Yes? 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:12.600 Correct now. 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:17.000 This that's Tim Fortner, the lead detective for the Mayfield 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:20.240 Police who very politely declined to talk to me for 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:24.400 this series. In this proceeding, you hear him laying out 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:28.640 the first police theory of the case. He says, Jeremy 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:32.560 and Carlos knew each other from around Mayfield and dealing drugs, 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:36.840 and he says they both went out looking for Jessica. 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:43.560 Jeremy and Lolo had went out looking for Jessica a founder. 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:44.880 An argument ensued. 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.439 One of the doors to the middle school had unidentified 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:52.439 palm prints sneered on it look like. 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.920 They're made and somebody trying to get into into the 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:55.559 door or. 0:09:55.480 --> 0:10:01.000 Something, And there was also a clump of hair land nearby. 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:04.160 And with the clump of hair there, it certainly appeared 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:06.640 to have been some type of struggle, perhaps somebody trying 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:08.280 to get in or for the door open. 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:12.839 It may not be, but something that could happen, He says. 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.160 Maybe Jessica fought. 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:21.000 Back, Jessica hit Jeremy in the face. Jeremy then hit 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.600 Jessica in the face with the things. 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.679 That would explain why Jessica's body was found with cuts 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:28.920 to her face and a broken nose. 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:31.080 Said it knocked her down when she got up to 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.240 take off down and he found a piece of metal 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:35.040 and hit her in the back of the head, which 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:36.959 also would go inside with the coin. 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:37.160 Of the port. 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:42.840 Here, Mayfield police aren't discussing the belt fragment much the 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.119 one found near Jessica's body, like you heard the prosecution 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:51.840 do at Quincy's trial. Instead, they're saying blunt force trauma 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:59.080 to the head is what most likely killed Jessica. Now, 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:03.440 even though they suspected Jessica had been bludgeoned, they didn't 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:08.120 find any evidence of blood spatter, but Mayfield police theorized 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:12.480 that was most likely because it had rained those days, but. 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:14.320 With all the rain, it watched its way. 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.760 And then they found later that they were still on the. 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:19.040 Flood there and it drained there, so most of it 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:20.400 happened pretty close to it. 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.080 And definitely did burning happened there because the grass was burned. 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:27.640 What's the either way, the police concluded that Jessica had 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:31.880 to have been killed at the school grounds. Then he 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.080 says the killers pulled her underwear off to make it 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.480 look like a rape, and they burned her body. 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:42.640 They burned the body so that they could tever rember 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.840 in the DNA evidence, and that's where I wanted. 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.880 Detective Tim Fortner got these theories from the testimonies of 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:58.960 at least three jailhouse informants who had all shared a 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:02.480 cell with Jeremy at some point in two thousand and one. 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.480 Up here and talk to you about the Jessica Kern 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:07.400 murder down and my Field. 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:11.280 Go ahead and tell us I've listened to those recordings. 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.680 And they either say Jeremy admits of various points to 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.360 attacking Jessica. 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:18.720 In the back of the head with the scale high, 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.319 and that's what we're telling came about. 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:25.760 Or they say Jeremy appears worried about any DNA they 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.959 might find on some cigarette butts the police collected near 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:29.960 Jessica's body. 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:31.839 If the DNA could be. 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:33.000 Brought off a bet. 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.760 Now, to be clear, I haven't been able to find 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:40.400 what physical evidence the police had against Jeremy and Carlos. 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.240 They found those cigarette butts Jeremy was worried about, but 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:47.800 didn't make an official DNA connection to either of them, 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:51.199 And I already described the mistakes Mayfield police made and 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:55.760 their investigation. There's a chance that all they had against 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:59.480 them was the word of three jailhouse snitches saying Jeremy 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:01.000 had some thing to do with it. 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.440 Again, we received several tips Jeremy Adams might be involved. 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:05.880 Jeremy Adams might be involved. 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:10.800 Jeremy in turn implicated Carlos as far as he goes. 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:14.680 The police always described Carlos as someone who may have 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:18.800 helped plan the murder or failed to stop it. On 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:21.640 top of that, remember the party Quincy Cross was at 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:24.880 the night Jessica was last seen, the one on Chris Drive. 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:29.640 Carlos was also at that party. He was arrested for 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:33.480 drugs along with Quincy Cross and everyone else on Sunday morning, 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:39.000 hours after Jessica was last seen alive. So it's unclear 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:42.120 as to when exactly he would have picked up Jessica 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:49.680 and helped Jeremy kill her. But I might never have 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:54.200 a clear answer because Jeremy and Carlos would never see 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:57.920 their day in court and lead up to their trial, 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.960 the prosecution and police failed to turn over evidence to 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:07.600 the defense, including eighteen to twenty audio and video recordings 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:12.640 Jeremy and Carlos's attorneys thought could point to their client's innocence, 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.880 and the prosecutor basically said we can't find a lot 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:23.280 of this evidence. The judge was pissed. He told law enforcement, quote, 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:27.400 I have never seen a case so encumbered with problems, 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:32.360 and I hope I never see another one. The judge 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:37.400 dismissed the case without prejudice, meaning that Jeremy and Carlos 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:41.760 could be charged and tried again. And when the Kentucky 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:45.720 State Police took over the investigation, it appears as if 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:48.680 they did chase the case against Jeremy for a bit. 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:53.200 But then just a year later came Susan Gallbreath. 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:59.080 So pretty much Susan Galbert ran the investigation. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:01.080 But what is her motive? 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:01.280 Like? 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:03.960 Why is Susan Barbreath vested on us? 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:07.880 Because she's fucking awns Ona Adams, Jeremy's mother. 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:32.640 That's coming up. When Quincy Cross was convicted, Susan Golbreath 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:36.560 wrote an email to her journalist friend Tom Mangled, saying quote, 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:41.400 I can hardly see from tears falling, this was her 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:46.880 crowning moment, years of her labor finally paying off. But 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:51.560 now almost two decades later, Susan's own work is being 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:55.240 used to try and get Quincy Cross out of prison. 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:57.960 So I just wanted to tell you, I was looking 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:01.720 at my timeline and I have around two thousand and four, 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:04.120 Susan Galbrith first pops into the picture. 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:09.120 Miranda Hellman is an attorney and for four years, starting 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:13.080 around twenty twenty, Miranda worked with the Kentucky Innocence Project 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:16.040 on the post conviction case for the main person found 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:19.920 guilty of murdering Jessica Currn Quincy Cross. 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:23.000 So mid two thousand and four is when I really. 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:26.560 Miranda's walking me through a timeline she's put together, connecting 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.600 Susan's involvement in the case to changing stories of the 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:32.520 state's main witnesses and law enforcements theories. 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:35.160 What I did was compare that with the statements of 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.440 Victoria and Venetia up until that point. So up until 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:40.520 late two thousand and three is the last one I 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:45.080 have from them, and there is no sexual component, and 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:48.400 there is no Quincy. The story is absolutely we left 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.960 the car party. It was Jeremy Adams. 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:57.800 The Kentucky Innocence Project actually first took on Quincy's case 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:01.040 in the early twenty tens, but they had to shelve 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.359 it because of funding. When Miranda and her team picked 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:07.320 it back up, they had their work cut out for them. 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.879 It's very hard to get a conviction overturned in the 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:13.879 state of Kentucky or in most of the country. Really. 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:17.320 One of the many hurdles is that Quincy's attorneys have 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.560 to present new evidence that points to his innocence. 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:24.560 So it has to be something that wasn't available or 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.439 should have been discovered at the time of trial, and 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:30.359 so the burden is incredibly high. It has to be 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:31.840 something that truly is new. 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:36.480 Then in twenty twenty two, Miranda and her team had 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:37.400 a lucky break. 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.359 We've been able to obtain new documents that weren't part 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:44.080 of the original discovery or part of the initial investigation. 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.160 A lot of that is centered around Susan Galbreth. 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:52.000 They obtained years of emails between journalists Tom Mangold and 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:57.480 Susan Goalbreth, which you've been hearing throughout this series. Last episode, 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:02.480 those emails helped explain how Susan, suspects and theories found 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:06.920 their way into the prosecution's case, and now Miranda says 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.080 they can give us insight into Susan's motive. 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:14.679 Welcome to Susan Gabert world, whose main goal was always 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:16.520 to get Jeremy Adams out of this. 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:25.159 At Quincy's trial, his attorneys did try to point out 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:29.760 Susan's relationship with Donna Adams, Jeremy's mom. They even said 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:34.720 both women were invested in finding the quote real killer together, 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:39.240 But when questioned by the defense, Susan denies being close 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:40.880 to Donna years ago. 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:44.320 She lived upstairs from me, and that was how I 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:48.879 met her, and you know those I did party that. 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:51.680 You know, we might party together or something like that, 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:53.640 but we would have never hung out. 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:56.720 She says. They were neighbors in the late nineties and 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.440 they lost touch for a few years, and then you. 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:02.440 Were kindled your relationship with her or as of being 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:06.360 a flight you make rekindle sound as though we were 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:08.920 like and slow mo should run in towards one another. 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:11.719 There was nothing like that at all. Nothing. 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:13.880 When did you reapplint yourself in what. 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.399 In two thousand and four did you consider her overre in? 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:21.440 I don't, I don't. 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.639 I really don't think that I would even consider it that. 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:29.440 But new emails and testimony that the Kentucky Innocence Project 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.720 obtained and that my team and I have reviewed, tell 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:36.919 a different story, as do the findings of other people. 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:40.760 Invested in clearing the names of Quincy, Tamra and Jeff 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:45.000 Excuse me one second, like private investigator John Poole. 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:47.200 May you got to add Johnson working. 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:51.600 When I first met John in twenty twenty three, he 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:56.000 drove me around Mayfield and he knows everyone. We stopped 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.280 to say hi to some construction workers. 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:00.960 I figured you're the worker bees. 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:03.320 I figured that Ed wouldn't be doing anything. 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:07.399 John grew up in Mayfield. He left to work as 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:11.000 a police officer in California, then came back home in 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:15.359 his fifties. Since returning, he's been a three time council member, 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:19.880 heavily involved in the community. He's also a dead ringer 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:21.560 for the late actor Leslie Jordan. 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:26.160 Plus, I'm the uncle of Jeffrey Burton. He was one 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:29.840 of the people that was charged in the Jessica Current murder. 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:34.760 Jeff Burton the white boy Susan Goalbreth helped find she 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:39.000 made his house the scene of the crime. John has 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:41.360 also become a good friend of Darra's. 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:45.200 I was sitting on his floor three years ago, almost 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:48.520 to the date, and we were looking through papers and 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:51.440 the light was hitting him so perfectly. I said, why 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:54.320 are you still do this, John, why are you still involved, 0:20:55.040 --> 0:21:00.400 you know, other than Jeff, And he said, we said 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:06.840 fucking vengeance, vengeance over the fucking judicial system and how 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:08.680 much it needed to be changed. 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:15.119 There's no physical evidence in this case that indicates any 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:16.560 of them did anything. 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:21.320 John also believes that Susan Goaalbreath played a big role 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:24.719 in shaping the case against Quincy, Tamra and Jeff. 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:30.040 If you look at the record, the prosecution used a 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:36.080 story that was developed by Susan Galbert and Susan in 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:39.200 any of the stuff that you look at, her goal 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:42.120 was to save Jeremy Adams. 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:47.040 This is a big departure from Susan's publicly stated goal 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:51.000 that she was a selfless, everyday citizen called by divine 0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:56.119 forces to help find justice for Jessica Current. John managed 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:58.639 to find a friend of Susan's of over twenty years 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:01.040 who often helped her with the case. 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:07.560 Lacey Gates gave us some information and tried to clean 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:11.719 this up. We even had her down here. She knew 0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:12.679 that it was wrong. 0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:14.280 Where is she now? 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:15.919 She is deceased. 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:20.040 Lacy Gates died in twenty twenty two, but before that 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:23.600 she did give an Affidavid to the Kentucky Innocence Project, 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:28.920 which said, I feel that Susan Goalbreth directed the police 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:32.000 in the wrong direction and the wrong people were convicted. 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:35.760 Susan Gaalbreth was friends with Donna Adams, the mother of 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:39.959 Jeremy Adams, one of the first persons accused of Jessica's murder. 0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:43.159 Donna was under the impression that Susan was going to 0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:45.159 help get Jeremy out of trouble. 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:50.439 Susan Galbert was able to get the discovery in the 0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:51.439 Adams case. 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:57.560 Jeremy signed over his case files to journalist Tom Mangold, 0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:00.960 and those documents were part of of what Tom used 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:04.520 to source his first articles on Mayfield and Jessica. Current 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:08.639 before those articles came out, Susan writes to Tom that 0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:12.360 Donna was anxious that her son's name still hadn't been cleared. 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:14.640 Here's my colleague reading the email. 0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:17.879 I have pleaded with her so many times to stay 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:19.280 level headed and to wait. 0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:24.000 Remember, the charges alleging Jeremy had killed Jessica in a 0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:29.200 supposed fight over child support had been dismissed. John says, but. 0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:33.760 They were dismissed without prejudice, and that means the case 0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:37.320 could have been brought back up at any time, But 0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:41.959 again it's appeared that Galbert was pushing the other scenario, 0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:44.240 the one the state used. 0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:51.280 And the scenario Tom Mingled used in his articles. In 0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:55.399 these stories, Tom states matter of factly that Jeremy was 0:23:55.640 --> 0:24:00.120 obviously an innocent man, and he repeats that sentiment year 0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:02.240 later in his BBC retrospective. 0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:05.119 By the end of the first week, we'd established that 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:09.040 Jeremy Adams, the local small time criminal, had been wrongly 0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:10.160 charged by the cops. 0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:14.480 Tom describes a bumbling police department that just wanted to 0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:17.959 pin the murder on a petty criminal. Tom says the 0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:21.600 strongest evidence the Mayfield police had against Jeremy was the 0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:25.080 alleged confessions he made to those cellmates you heard from earlier. 0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:29.560 But Jeremy's attorney told Tom that the only reason Jeremy 0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:34.240 confessed was because Detective Tim Fortner had shown Jeremy pictures 0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:35.679 of the crime scene. 0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:39.639 They went there to ask him about a murder, and 0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:43.639 they showed him evidence that no one had really seen before. 0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:47.160 So of course he's going to implicate himself in some way. 0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:50.960 Jeremy is a simple minded gentleman. He can be led 0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:55.359 very easily. He was one of the town criminals, and 0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:57.880 it was very easy for them to close this case 0:24:57.920 --> 0:24:59.040 and make themselves look. 0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:05.320 Good, decides Tom Mingled and Susan Goalbreath had a much 0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:07.000 better suspect. 0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:10.479 The seriously nasty drug dealer called Quincy Cross, whod been 0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:12.840 arrested just hours after the murder. 0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:20.159 He was a pretty easy mark as well. You know, 0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:22.000 he had a little bit of a history with the 0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:25.280 law as far as the drugs went. He was an outsider, 0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:27.679 which I think is incredibly important to this case. He 0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:30.600 was not from Mayfield, He had very few ties to Mayfield. 0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:33.360 It was easy to point the finger at him because 0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:36.840 he was kind of a nameless, faceless person that was 0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:38.480 not her best friend's son. 0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:42.720 But what Tom ignores or fails to mention in his 0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:46.480 stories is that it wasn't just him and Susan out investigating. 0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:51.399 Susan had help. She conducted part of her investigation alongside 0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:56.160