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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: Is in Thursday. We're still wrapping up the Steelers aftermath

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Speaker 1: of the one season players still having their exit interviews

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Speaker 1: with Mike Tomlin over on the South Side. Did you

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Speaker 1: say that's going all week or even in the next week.

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Speaker 1: It's probably getting they'll probably wrap it up by this

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Speaker 1: week so guys can get out of it. Right, Everyone

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Speaker 1: lives here and young guys want to go home, and

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Speaker 1: of course right, Uh, Matt, what I wanted to do

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Speaker 1: here today is I want you to put on your

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Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert GM hat. That's my favorite hat, your favorite hat,

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Speaker 1: my favorite. I don't always look in it, but I

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Speaker 1: do my best, but I like wearing it. Well, what

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do is, we're gonna we're gonna go through this.

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Speaker 1: Actually you're gonna be You're gonna be Kevin Colburtt. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be Mike Tomlin. That sounds about right, okay,

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna talk to each one of these pending

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Speaker 1: free agents. Okay, I'm gonna sit down with us. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a little trick to sit down. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: have the chat and what we liked about it and

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Speaker 1: do we want them back, And we'll be very honest

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Speaker 1: and we're not offending anybody here. And you know there's

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Speaker 1: no one on the other side of the table to

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Speaker 1: whine and cry about it, so we'll just let him

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Speaker 1: know how we think. Let's go. We're gonna skip Ben

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger because we know that's a done. Thanks Ben, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Ben. We appreciate it. That's what the season

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Speaker 1: was all about. Tremendous. We appreciate all of the efforts

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Speaker 1: in great everything treats you well in your life's works.

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Speaker 1: Not by anytime, Joe Hayden, have a seat alight. Joe.

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Speaker 1: You've been a very valuable member of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 1: We couldn't believe how lucky we were to get you.

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Speaker 1: We like the way you're playing, but we like this

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Speaker 1: Witherspoon guy too. And I know your contracts up, and

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Speaker 1: I could see if you were interested in calling the

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Speaker 1: Packers or Bucks or Bills or whoever and go try

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Speaker 1: to get a ring. But we don't think we're all

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Speaker 1: that far away here either and we think you could

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Speaker 1: be a piece of that and your leadership is unbelievably

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Speaker 1: valuable to us. But you gotta take a pay cut,

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Speaker 1: and I can't promise you're you're opening day starter, but

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Speaker 1: you sure would be in the mix. We know how

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Speaker 1: that position goes. More than two people see the field

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Speaker 1: a lot, Joe. I'd just like to add that you know, Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, as your coach, I've appreciated everything that you've

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Speaker 1: done in terms of the leadership that you've provided the

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Speaker 1: on the on field steadiness. UM would love to have

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Speaker 1: you back again, As as Matcha said, Um, oh, I

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Speaker 1: guess I have us happened had on You can still

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Speaker 1: have your you can still have your name. As as

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Speaker 1: Matta said, you know, we'd love to have you back, Um,

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Speaker 1: but we all will understand that you're you're going to

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Speaker 1: be thirty three in April, and you played the Snaps

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Speaker 1: Force this year. Um, you were you were good when

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Speaker 1: you were on the field. I am concerned that, you know,

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Speaker 1: father time is starting to catch up with you a little.

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Speaker 1: But as as Matt mentioned, you know, we do like

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Speaker 1: a killow weatherspoon, Um, but I'm sure you can understand you.

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Speaker 1: You were in position of meetings with Room and on

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Speaker 1: the field with them a lot. We'd love to have

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Speaker 1: you back, even if it's something where you just play

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Speaker 1: in our nickel and dime defenses. If you're okay with

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Speaker 1: that and you think we can come back, we can.

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Speaker 1: We can have this conversation in the off season. You

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Speaker 1: don't want to go anywhere, we'd love to have you back.

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Speaker 1: But if you want to go chase that ring, I

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Speaker 1: understand it. And Joe, if you're on opening day, you're

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Speaker 1: better than Weatherspoon. You're gonna be out there on the

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Speaker 1: starting eleven. I mean, I'm not saying you're definitely a

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Speaker 1: sub package player, but ideally we'd like to get our

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Speaker 1: secondary to the point where that's where you're at. And

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Speaker 1: to be frank, I'm starting to worry about your foot

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Speaker 1: speed a little bit. You know, it was never the

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Speaker 1: greatest thing to begin with. You make up for it

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Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, but you're not the fastest

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you later, Joe. We'll be in touch. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we will talk to your agent. Yes, would some people

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Speaker 1: we might not talk to their ad Now everyone's gonna

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Speaker 1: say that we will stay in contact. If you do

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Speaker 1: get an offer, please feel free to give us a call.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if we can match that. And best of

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Speaker 1: luck to you. Tell Juju to come in June. Do

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Speaker 1: you have a seat. Well, crazy year for you, Juju.

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Speaker 1: You know, we even go back to a year ago.

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Speaker 1: We very much appreciated your commitment to us wanting to

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Speaker 1: come back. We know you were getting offers on the

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Speaker 1: open market. We know what you can do. Since Ben's

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Speaker 1: not in the room, we think you could do more

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Speaker 1: with a different quarterback than just catch short ones. You know,

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Speaker 1: we think you can't even do more than what we've

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Speaker 1: seen from you the last couple of years. Your toughness

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Speaker 1: on the field. It looks like you've matured as a

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Speaker 1: human being. Your work ethic is very valuable. Amazingly, even

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Speaker 1: at your young age. You're the eldest statesman in that

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Speaker 1: wide receiver's room, and I think we think that has value.

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Speaker 1: What do you think if we give you the exact

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Speaker 1: same contracts that we gave you a year ago, one

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Speaker 1: year deal? I mean certainly would understand if you're looking

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Speaker 1: for a four year deal with a huge signing bonus

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Speaker 1: somewhere else, but we'd like to have you in the mix. Yeah, juju,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be frank here. Um. You know I we

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Speaker 1: we brought you back on this one year deal hoping

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Speaker 1: that you know, to to get you another year into

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Speaker 1: this and and uh, you know, unfortunately got hurt. And

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you coming back and showing everybody for the

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Speaker 1: playoff game exactly what this is, how meaningful that game was,

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Speaker 1: that goes, that goes a long way with the young

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Speaker 1: guys in this locker room. I can't tell you how

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Speaker 1: much I appreciate that. Would love to have you back again.

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Speaker 1: As Matta said, Um, if that's a one year deal

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Speaker 1: and you want to go test free agency again, I understand. Um,

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Speaker 1: I can't make you any promises about what our quarterback

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Speaker 1: that if you want to go play for a more

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Speaker 1: established quarterback. We completely understand. Yea um, but we'd love

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Speaker 1: going to be different. Um. Next year, we're going to

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Speaker 1: have you back. Uh. I loved it for that to

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Speaker 1: be a long term deal, but if it can't be

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Speaker 1: in touch. Yeah, and Juju, we love what you bring

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Speaker 1: sounds like a small thing, but that's important around here

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Speaker 1: and it sets a trend for the other ten on

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Speaker 1: the field. Um, have your agent call as soon as possible,

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Speaker 1: if you would, And then when he leaves the room,

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Speaker 1: I'd say, hey, Dale, you know, when his agent calls,

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Speaker 1: we could talk a two year deal with the right numbers.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be a one year, you know,

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Speaker 1: run it back deal. I mean, depending what the numbers

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Speaker 1: ju Ju, he's probably gonna want to test the market

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Speaker 1: a little bit too. Yeah. I think that's reasonable, Matt,

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Speaker 1: have those three and could you even do the Dale

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Speaker 1: four really strong ones. But you certainly don't have to that, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, so you know it's a good it's a good,

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Speaker 1: let's buzz erk e broun in now okay, okay, Eric,

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Speaker 1: Eric Evasi here. Um. I just wanted to go over

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Speaker 1: everything as as you know, uh, you got hurt this year. Um.

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Speaker 1: We liked you know that some of the stuff that

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Speaker 1: but Pat Farnmouth is has surpassed you as our starting

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Speaker 1: We wish you luck. You're twenty nine years old. You

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Speaker 1: probably still can go find a job if you If

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Speaker 1: you want somebody to vouch for you as a locker

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Speaker 1: think there were some misconceptions about you out there. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we didn't see any of that that the prior issues. Um,

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Speaker 1: have them give us a call if we wish you luck.

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Speaker 1: Ye back everything coach just said. And um, you know, Eric,

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Speaker 1: some mismatch qualities. We feel like it's our fault that

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Speaker 1: But the young tight ends we have, we think our

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Speaker 1: And I bet somebody will give you more money than us. Yep,

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Speaker 1: see you later, Eric, Uh stand always always been a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Can you send the Kello Weatherspooning Police. Okay, well, hello,

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Speaker 1: it's great talking to you. We loved everything you did

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Speaker 1: so much that we decided to trade to pick for you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I couldn't believe that Seattle was willing to

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Speaker 1: give you up for that price. I mean, we think

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Speaker 1: you're a starting caliber corner. And you know why you

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Speaker 1: didn't see the field early on. You know, we you

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Speaker 1: think you're a slot corner. So there's only two spots

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Speaker 1: an asset for us. And as we got to know

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Speaker 1: you and some opportunities arose, we had no hesitations getting

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Speaker 1: you out there, and you exceeded our expectations, you know.

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Speaker 1: So we think you could be a starting corner for

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Speaker 1: us for a multi year deal, I mean, and so

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Speaker 1: if that interests you, we'd like to talk numbers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just like to reiterate what Matt said in terms of

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Speaker 1: the early season stuff. You know what that was about

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Speaker 1: you to be become a better tackler. Uh yeah, if

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Speaker 1: you work on something. You need to work on your

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Speaker 1: physicality on the edge. That's something that we covered here

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh here, and you know that's something we need.

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Speaker 1: I love your coverage skills, Um, the numbers were great

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Speaker 1: this year. You allowed thirty eight point seven completion percentage

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Speaker 1: and your coverage that was the best in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: If you can can if you can do that, I

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Speaker 1: should have had that homework here before the meeting not

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Speaker 1: and also, uh, improve your tackling skills and you'll have

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Speaker 1: a spot for a long time on this team. You'll

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Speaker 1: be a foundational player. Yeah, we didn't give some rare traits,

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Speaker 1: you know, especially your size and length that we could

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Speaker 1: you back, but not in the same role. More's the five, um,

426
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 1: as opposed to being the that's the three at times

427
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 1: this year, right, And I couldn't agree more with coach UM.

428
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 1: I think it's a feather in your cap that the

429
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame departing quarterback had an affinity for you

430
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Speaker 1: and certainly look to go your direction at times. I

431
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,479
Speaker 1: had a trust with you. That's not easy, especially from

432
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,199
Speaker 1: an established quarterback like that. I thought you did some

433
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 1: of your best offensive work late in the year, which

434
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 1: is encouraging as well, and some of the games we

435
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 1: needed you the most, Um. But we definitely do not

436
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: see you as a regular contributor or close to the

437
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 1: snap count guy that you've gotten to this point offensively. UM.

438
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 1: We would like to put you out there in certain packages.

439
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 1: We're probably talking eight to ten snaps a game, but

440
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: you will be active for every game day and you'd

441
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Speaker 1: be our return er and you'd have a stable to

442
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 1: your contract, but you know it would be in a

443
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 1: different role. Yeah, we wouldn't mind getting that done the

444
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Speaker 1: Ray Ray before free agency. We'd like to have that

445
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 1: taken care of. Think we can get something worked out

446
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: with that. UM security for both of us seems like

447
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 1: would be a good thing for this particular situation. So

448
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 1: we'll be looking for returners, will be we'll be in

449
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 1: touch on that. Can you send them on? Trevius in Wow, Well, Montrevius,

450
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: A very interesting situation we have here because we were

451
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Speaker 1: very happy to get you for what we got you for,

452
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 1: which was nothing. You know, and we've we've watched your

453
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 1: work going back to your college days. We recognize the

454
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: talent and we thought on our team in the league

455
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 1: was faulty for not having you on an active roster.

456
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: We think you're an active suster, every game contributor who's

457
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 1: going to play snaps, you know, no matter what. But

458
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 1: our run defense wasn't very good this year. We had

459
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: another nose tackle type in Tyson and Lulu who we adore.

460
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: But he's up in age. We got to talk to

461
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: him too. He's he'll be sitting down with us at

462
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: some point as well. We haven't had our exit conversation

463
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: with him quite yet. UM. And frankly, we usually keep

464
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: about six defensive lineman and not more than two nose

465
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 1: tackles on the roster. We have a contract here for you,

466
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: probably another one year deal, much more than you've ever

467
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: made at the NFL level. Well, I guess that's not true,

468
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 1: because we probably made a decent buckets rookie year. Um.

469
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: But it will be an upgrade on what you're making now.

470
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: I think you'd be very comfortable with it. Um. But

471
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: there's gonna be changes up front, whether that's just guys

472
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: coming back that we already know for years, or drafting

473
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 1: somebody high because we gave up too many yards on

474
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Speaker 1: the ground. But we like your work. Um. You know montrevious.

475
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: Uh we uh we added you there. You got on

476
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,479
Speaker 1: a moving train and and came in and and stepped

477
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: in and played right away. We understand that that was

478
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: not easy. I appreciate your efforts doing that. UM. We'd

479
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: love to have you back and have a full training

480
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: camp with us, a full off season to learn techniques

481
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: for you. I think it'd be beneficial for you. For sure.

482
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: You will have US. I can't guarantee you a spot

483
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: on our roster, but there's a good chance that that

484
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: you're gonna be in the mix and the contract we

485
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: offer you will reflect that. Yeah. Um, we'd love to

486
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: have you back. We think you can be a rotational

487
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: guy for US. Um, you're not gonna have to spend

488
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: time on the practice squad like you have the last

489
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: couple of years or get bounced. We think you're a professional.

490
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: We think you're you add something an equation like your motor,

491
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: like the way you've you've you've approached this this year

492
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: and uh again, we'd like to get something done here

493
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 1: before before we get the free agency. That's how how

494
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: we operate here. We there's a few of these folks

495
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,239
Speaker 1: that have been in the lobby that keep coming in

496
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: here that we'd say we'd like to get something done immediately.

497
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: You're one of those select few. It's not something we

498
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: offer everybody, but you'd be in in that that category. Yeah, now,

499
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: can you send Chukes in? Okay, Well, Chukes, it's been

500
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: a strange ride so far. You know you we've bounced

501
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,479
Speaker 1: around a little bit. We know the public has been

502
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: critical of you, but we we think you're one of

503
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: the best starting We think you're a uh top sixty

504
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: four offensive tackle in this league. Um, we think your

505
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: best days might be ahead of you. Think you pretty

506
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: much settled in at the right side. But there's a

507
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 1: contract here for you. But I can promise you we're

508
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: not just gonna you know, right down in pen right

509
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 1: now that you're are starting right tackle. Um, you may

510
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: end up being the swing guy. You may be asked

511
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: to play left in the future again, but we think

512
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: your best days are ahead of you. We have a

513
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: lot invested in you, and you've done well from what

514
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: we've asked of you. Um, but we're not going to

515
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: pay you, you know, top type type even half top

516
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: half of the league top tackle money. You know, we're

517
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: gonna pay you like a low end starter right now.

518
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: And maybe there's some incentives there game time. You know,

519
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: if you play X amount of games over this contract,

520
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: you hit some bonuses. Yeah, trucks. We we really appreciate

521
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: the way that you've stepped in the last two years

522
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: and been available again. I think your your durability has

523
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 1: been a plus for you. Um. You've you've been out

524
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: there and played and played reasonably well for us. We

525
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: think you still need to continue to get stronger and

526
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: become stronger at the point of attack. We need you

527
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: to clean up some of the false starts and things

528
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: of that nature, get a little more detail oriented. But

529
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: as Matt said, we do think you're a starting tight

530
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: at the offensive tackle in this league and we think

531
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: you're an asset for us. We'd like to have you back. Um.

532
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: We we'd prefer not not to let you hit the

533
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: free agent market. We'd like to get something done before

534
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: everything gets settled here. But again, like we've told some

535
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,479
Speaker 1: of these other guys, if you want to hit the

536
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: free agent market and test that out, see what's out

537
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: there for you, we certainly understand in debt um, but

538
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: we'd like to have you back here. We think you're

539
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: a piece of the puzzle here moving forward. And lastly, Chokes,

540
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: and please don't take this the wrong way, but we

541
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: have a list of about eight to ten offensive tackles

542
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: that we think are about on your tier that are

543
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: also going to be free agents to be And if

544
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: you're not interested in this contract we have now for you,

545
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to them and see if anyone's going

546
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: to take the same deal. So this is not an

547
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: open door that's going to be open possibly for long,

548
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: because we we we understand our offensive line needs help

549
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: and we think you can be more of the answer

550
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: than the problem. But we're not sitting on our hands

551
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: at this position right now. Very good. Hey you like that. Yeah,

552
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: we didn't have time to get through all of the

553
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: free agents here. That's why this. You know, these exit

554
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: interviews take a week long. A week. We could do

555
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: it one segment and I'm sure the conversations that take

556
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: place between Mike Tomlin and Kevin Colbert and like they

557
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: meet with all these guys, you know over the course

558
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: of a day, Uh, the training staff and they go

559
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: over things and what's gonna happen here. You mentioned the

560
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: training staff a lot would be like, Hey, I know

561
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: you fought through that ankle that the public didn't know

562
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: about for three weeks, and you know that that did

563
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: not go unnoticed. Here's some training that you need to

564
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,719
Speaker 1: do to strengthen that and get that back to or hey,

565
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: you've been late for meetings a little bit here too.

566
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: I mean, we didn't think we didn't notice that either,

567
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, whatever it might be, you know,

568
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: don't park a Mr Rooney spot just a fun little

569
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: one thing. But we got through a good number of those.

570
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: I think I think we'd hit the nail on the

571
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: head there for approach those you know I mean. And

572
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: again if if any of those players and we don't

573
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: see it that way, we'll be okay without you, you know,

574
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: I mean right, there's plenty of fishing to see too. Absolutely,

575
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: but he is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lally. You're

576
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're

577
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: gonna take a break. We've been back with more right

578
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Speaker 1: after this