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Speaker 2: Welcome in What Drive with Nick Wright, Episode one e eight.
Speaker 2: You know, let's just get right into it. If the
Speaker 2: NBA starts tonight, the Chiefs are in first place in
Speaker 2: the whole league, the Bills are falling apart, and yet
Speaker 2: none of that. I had a winning weekend of Picks,
Speaker 2: even though I gave Demond's a terrible teaser advice that
Speaker 2: cost him. None of that is the lead story today. Instead,
Speaker 2: of course, we'll talk Monday Night football. First, let me
Speaker 2: get to what missed the cut not On today's show.
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams and the USC Trojans lose again. B Jean
Speaker 2: Robinson sick, the NFL's investigating in case you had props
Speaker 2: or fantasy on it, and Nick's apology to Tyson Bagent.
Speaker 2: You'll yeah, listen, Tyson, you were better than I thought
Speaker 2: you would be. Cost you know what. My apologies in
Speaker 2: the form of how much money you cost me this weekend? Demonse,
Speaker 2: how are you doing this morning? We were texting during
Speaker 2: the game, You're calling me a hater? You were, you
Speaker 2: know you were. I think a little disappointed in me.
Speaker 2: But be honest, before we get into the actual story.
Speaker 2: When you were watching that, did you have a moment
Speaker 2: where you're like, God, dog it. He can be annoying,
Speaker 2: he can be obnoxious, but my dad might know what
Speaker 2: he's talking about sometime.
Speaker 3: Be honest, Yeah, I mean I think that happens all
Speaker 3: the time. It's just your delivery makes it hard to accept.
Speaker 2: You know, that is correct, story of my life, more
Speaker 2: often than not proven correct. People though, don't want to
Speaker 2: accept it because I'm so abrasive with how I deliver
Speaker 2: the information. Speaking of delivering the information, demonsay, what happened
Speaker 2: on Monday Night football last night?
Speaker 3: Well so brock Party lost to the Vikings twenty two
Speaker 3: to seventeen. This was in Minnesota though. Yeah, so he
Speaker 3: threw a pick at the end when he had a
Speaker 3: chance to go down there and win the game.
Speaker 4: But that was followed by a.
Speaker 3: Two nice passes that got them in that position. But
Speaker 3: when I were to talk about that obviously, So this
Speaker 3: is kind of falling into her eventually, right column. Do
Speaker 3: you think that the party train of the party hype
Speaker 3: has come to a sudden stop or is there a
Speaker 3: way out of this?
Speaker 4: You think you know? Rally?
Speaker 2: Well? No, I mean listen, I Mahomes Mountain on TV
Speaker 2: today and people were like, Oh, how far is perty
Speaker 2: gonna fall? Uh? Probably won't fall because he is who
Speaker 2: I told you he was. Oh, Nick, what more do
Speaker 2: you need to see? Well, I told you exactly what
Speaker 2: I wanted to see. Brock Purty down a score, chance
Speaker 2: to drive the field. We saw it last week down two,
Speaker 2: and on the very first play of the drive, he
Speaker 2: threw it right Greg Newsom, who dropped it. He then
Speaker 2: threw a dump off pass to Brandon Ayuku took it
Speaker 2: forty yards and people were like, Oh, what more do
Speaker 2: you want from him? It's not his fault they missed
Speaker 2: the kick, And I was like, I don't know. Over
Speaker 2: the first fifty eight minutes of the game, not get
Speaker 2: out played by PJ. Walker just because you're down a
Speaker 2: couple of Avengers due to injury. Then this week against
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings and that defensive personnel, it's Danell Hunter,
Speaker 2: Harrison Smith and a bunch of guys all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: no debo, no Trent Williams looking awful pedestrian, and even
Speaker 2: over the course of that game he was fine. Over
Speaker 2: the course of the game, brock Purty was doing brock
Speaker 2: Purty things, throwing the open Brandon Ayuk, throwing to an
Speaker 2: open George Kittle. He really only had one bad play
Speaker 2: early right after his best throw of the night, right
Speaker 2: as Troy Aikman was saying he threw that ball as
Speaker 2: well as anyone can throw one. He threw George Kittle
Speaker 2: a hospital ball that Kittle was lucky only resulted in
Speaker 2: him getting hit in the groin and not getting spun
Speaker 2: over on his head. But he had played well. He
Speaker 2: had a really nice scramble early in the game. It's like, oh,
Speaker 2: Perty's doing some nice things. However, he then found himself
Speaker 2: in the exact scenario with the day after he went
Speaker 2: twenty of twenty one, and I came on this show
Speaker 2: and demonse on behalf of the entire football world said
Speaker 2: to me, what more do you want? What do you
Speaker 2: want him to do? And I said more? I said,
Speaker 2: I want to see him in a situation where the
Speaker 2: other team knows he has to pass, where they are
Speaker 2: down late, and see how he comes through. And what
Speaker 2: did he do. He threw one of the worst picks
Speaker 2: of the NFL season, then his defense got to stop.
Speaker 2: He got the ball back and he threw another one.
Speaker 2: And the drive before that, the reason they were punting
Speaker 2: was because on third and six he had it would
Speaker 2: have been a good play, but he was scrambling, had
Speaker 2: a guy open across the middle of the field, and
Speaker 2: he skipped the ball to him. You know why, because
Speaker 2: fact of the matter is he's a physically limited guy
Speaker 2: who couldn't get enough arm on the football. And late
Speaker 2: in that game, it is a lot of guys when
Speaker 2: everyone is exactly where they're supposed to be, when the
Speaker 2: defense is more worried about the run. When you have
Speaker 2: a skill advantage all over the field, a lot of
Speaker 2: guys can look sharp, but all of a sudden you're down.
Speaker 2: Somebody all of a sudden, the other team is teeing
Speaker 2: off against the pass all of a sudden, You've got
Speaker 2: to stand there and make throws. And it's not that
Speaker 2: he just didn't come through. He gave the game away
Speaker 2: on the first pick, got a reprieve thanks to his defense,
Speaker 2: and gave it away again. So what more, what did
Speaker 2: I want to see from Brock Purdy? How he would
Speaker 2: respond in the exact situation that you have to be
Speaker 2: able to come through in if you're going to be
Speaker 2: the quarterback of a Super Bowl champion. And that is
Speaker 2: where the Niners standard is. And thus far, he's had
Speaker 2: three opportunities in his young career, three drives the last
Speaker 2: three weeks, and he's over three. So I'm not here
Speaker 2: to say I told you so, And I'm not here
Speaker 2: to take a victory lap about a guy who has
Speaker 2: overachieved for the fact that he was the final pick
Speaker 2: of the draft. This is not so much about Brock
Speaker 2: Purdy as much as it is about my frustration with
Speaker 2: my colleagues, most of whom I think deep down agreed
Speaker 2: with me, but it was not a popular opinion. Well,
Speaker 2: am I really gonna go on TV and say the
Speaker 2: guy who's never lost and leads the league in passer rating.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's that good. Well, I don't
Speaker 2: know what what what is the job? Is the job
Speaker 2: to say literally what anyone could say if you and
Speaker 2: never watch the games as looked at the box score
Speaker 2: and be like, well, the guy's never lost, he has
Speaker 2: great stats, he must be awesome. Or is the job
Speaker 2: to actually look evaluate and give a thought on what
Speaker 2: is duplicable and what is not? Is the job to
Speaker 2: use data points? Such as Jimmy Garoppolo had similar levels
Speaker 2: of success. He then left and now leads the league
Speaker 2: in interceptions even though he's missed time with the Vonte Adams?
Speaker 2: What is the What is the job? And it was
Speaker 2: unpopular and people were upset with me, Well, no, their
Speaker 2: job might be that. My job is to evaluate and folks,
Speaker 2: I said it two weeks ago, and I or three
Speaker 2: weeks ago, and I retweeted the clip of it so
Speaker 2: people could see the replies. When I said I trust
Speaker 2: Genosi more than brock Party, the responses to that are
Speaker 2: unanimous in that this guy no one actually believes that.
Speaker 2: How can you take him seriously? I trust you know
Speaker 2: Smith more than brock Party. When I said, folks were
Speaker 2: writing off the Seattle Seahawks as potential division winners a
Speaker 2: bit too early. Well, you wake up this morning. The
Speaker 2: Seahawks have two losses. The forty nine ers have two losses.
Speaker 2: You wake up today and all of a sudden, the
Speaker 2: idea that they are just going to run away with
Speaker 2: the division that's gone. And I'm gonna tell you one
Speaker 2: other thing right now, this moment. You know what Kyle
Speaker 2: Shanahan Demonsay saw on that football field for three hours
Speaker 2: last night.
Speaker 4: He looked pretty sad quarterback that he wished he had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the and god, I have I have such
Speaker 2: a galaxy brain. Perty Kirk Cousins take that I have.
Speaker 4: Cousins was kind of dealing too.
Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna talk about that as well. We're gonna
Speaker 2: talk about it. But there is I might I might
Speaker 2: wait for this afternoon on TV to say what I'm
Speaker 2: thinking right now. I need to. Actually, I don't want
Speaker 2: to say it off the cuff.
Speaker 4: I've got something I tell you guys. Oh wait, I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna tell you right now. I'm gonna tell you later.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: Well, so here's the thing. Here's the thing in a
Speaker 2: world of aggregation and of you know, a half dozen anonymous,
Speaker 2: totally unaccountable football Twitter accounts that post other people's clips
Speaker 2: and other people's news so they can get Elon's money
Speaker 2: for their blue check mark. I want, I don't want
Speaker 2: to say something Flip Bentley if it's an impossibility, So
Speaker 2: let me actually look into the well, listen, it's not
Speaker 2: a bad business model. I mean there's I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: it's just all these guys and they fight with each other,
Speaker 2: these these anonymous not even necessarily real people football accounts.
Speaker 2: They're like, hey, you stole well, it's like you stole
Speaker 2: my tweet. But that tweet that you're saying was stolen,
Speaker 2: that guy just stole from someone who actually did the work.
Speaker 2: And so like the and one of them the do
Speaker 2: you see last week the news story, the news story
Speaker 2: that Caleb Williams wants an equity stake in a team
Speaker 2: if he gets drafted. That was a story from July
Speaker 2: from Florio that got very little traction when it happened.
Speaker 2: Then one of these places posted it like it was
Speaker 2: new information right after Caleb had the brutal game against
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, and it caught on like wildfire. So I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna be caught, So I'm gonna I there is
Speaker 2: a there is an intriguing brock Purty Kirk Cousins question
Speaker 2: that applies to this season that I'm gonna make sure
Speaker 2: I'm right on and then maybe discuss on television. Now
Speaker 2: to the kirk Cousins side of things, he was brilliant
Speaker 2: Demonsey No Justin Jefferson against an excellent defense. And I
Speaker 2: thought the way he navigated the pocket on that second
Speaker 2: on that last drive they had, they ended up getting points,
Speaker 2: but they you know, they wound very important clock. There
Speaker 2: was a third down play where I was certain and
Speaker 2: so was Troy on the call that he was sacked,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden he still had the
Speaker 2: ball and he had I think it was Addison, it
Speaker 2: might have been Osborn, I'm not sure. Up on the
Speaker 2: near side of the field, he like disappeared in the
Speaker 2: pocket for a moment, then he came through with it.
Speaker 2: I thought he was excellent.
Speaker 4: I thought that was.
Speaker 2: Because they weren't getting pressure, correct, and it's not because
Speaker 2: they weren't getting pressure. He was. He was great man.
Speaker 2: I thought Cousins was excellent, and to do that with
Speaker 2: no George Jefferson yeah, on prime time with your season
Speaker 2: on the line, three and four. They're alive. And I
Speaker 2: don't know if you've looked at what their next handful
Speaker 2: of games are. They're at Green Bay, at Atlanta home
Speaker 2: for the Saints, at the Broncos, home for the Bears,
Speaker 2: at the Raiders. That's their next six. Yeah. Four. I
Speaker 2: mean you've got four on the road. But none of
Speaker 2: those teams are above five hundred, None of those teams
Speaker 2: right now or and then at the end of the
Speaker 2: year year Bengals, Lions, Packers Lions. So at the end
Speaker 2: of the year, it gets hard, but they're alive, man,
Speaker 2: And maybe Jordan Jefferson comes back.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 2: Just they're alive if they want to be. And so
Speaker 2: credit to Kirk and Jordan Addison was awesome, man, he
Speaker 2: was awesome rookie wide receiver doing that. And the really
Speaker 2: cool dichotomy of Charvarius Wards stealing the ball away from
Speaker 2: him on the very first drive of the game and
Speaker 2: then him making the biggest play of the game stealing
Speaker 2: it away from Ward before halftime.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it was just really like that.
Speaker 3: That play was kind of confusing because like I saw
Speaker 3: them all jumbled up and then he just takes off
Speaker 3: with it like it was just really cool to see
Speaker 3: in lifetime.
Speaker 4: I thought it was.
Speaker 3: It was more impressive than the Yeah. I thought that
Speaker 3: play was a lot more interesting and fun than the pick.
Speaker 3: Obviously he fell down immediately, Yeah, but it was just
Speaker 3: cool to see him run away with that.
Speaker 2: No, I thought it was picked. I thought threw a
Speaker 2: pick right before the half. I also, if I'm gonna,
Speaker 2: I thought Kevin O'Connell game management wise made a bunch
Speaker 2: of errors. I thought their field goals inside the five.
Speaker 2: I thought they needed to be more aggressive. Here's the thing, though.
Speaker 4: Yo, in the double the back to back tush push.
Speaker 3: I mean I did that, by the way, touch push guy,
Speaker 3: but that was bad.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing on that you had first and
Speaker 2: goal from the one and a half. You want to
Speaker 2: try it one time, so be it. Yeah, once it
Speaker 2: doesn't work, Once it doesn't work, just just be like
Speaker 2: you know what, now we're inside the one, because they
Speaker 2: did get a little bit of yardage, you're just gonna
Speaker 2: run the ball three times. We've got to be able
Speaker 2: to get a single yard like hand it off to
Speaker 2: your running back.
Speaker 4: The So.
Speaker 2: But what I'll say is this real quick about Kevin
Speaker 2: O'Connell being that conservative. That is, whether people want to
Speaker 2: acknowledge it or not, a bit of an indictment on Party.
Speaker 2: The fact that O'Connell felt we can take three points,
Speaker 2: we can take three points, we can punt the ball.
Speaker 2: Those think that is him saying I'm not that worried
Speaker 2: about the forty nine Ers offense. And here is also
Speaker 2: why it is important to actually watch the games. Like,
Speaker 2: let's just say that on the first Party pick it
Speaker 2: had gotten dropped by the defender and then McCaffrey rips
Speaker 2: off a run and the Niners win. Not only did
Speaker 2: the Niners win, Purdy's stats would have looked really like,
Speaker 2: they would have looked amazing. And prior to the picks,
Speaker 2: he hadn't played poorly. I'm not saying that at all.
Speaker 2: But the only super like, the most impactful pass the
Speaker 2: game was that little swing pass to Christian McCaffrey that
Speaker 2: was blocked up perfectly. McCaffrey takes it forty five yards
Speaker 2: to the house, like you just gotta you've got to
Speaker 2: be able to have some nuance to this stuff. All right,
Speaker 2: what's the follow up here on the Niners?
Speaker 3: Do you think the forty nine Ers are still at
Speaker 3: the top tier of NFC teams, or is Philly and
Speaker 3: everybody else right now?
Speaker 2: Philly deserves to be considered the best team in the NFC.
Speaker 2: They won the conference last year, they lost one game
Speaker 2: last year with Jalen Hurts as their starter, and they've
Speaker 2: been excellent that I don't know that they've been excellent
Speaker 2: all year, but they have found a way to win.
Speaker 2: And you know what I mean, it's to me not
Speaker 2: that the two teams that were in the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: last year, there's not a lot of games this year
Speaker 2: where they have start to finish played their A game,
Speaker 2: the Chiefs and the Eagles. Yet they are the two
Speaker 2: teams that are six and one. They're the two teams
Speaker 2: that have found ways to win in a way that
Speaker 2: the you know, other teams haven't. I don't. I tried
Speaker 2: to Sirianni. He's annoying, but he's been excellent. He lost
Speaker 2: both his coordinators, Like, I gotta give him credit. I
Speaker 2: guess I probably feel about Sirianni the way a lot
Speaker 2: of people feel about me. Annoying but grudgingly admit he's
Speaker 2: excell Yeah, but uh that Here's what I was trying
Speaker 2: to say when everyone was trying to just annoint the
Speaker 2: Niners and Eagles though long season guys. The Lions were
Speaker 2: the hot team a week ago, they get whacked by Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Talk about them in a bit the the There's a
Speaker 2: lot of ebbs and flows to it. No one is
Speaker 2: going here's what I know. No one's running away with
Speaker 2: the NFC. The Eagles haven't looked so dominant that it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: they're gonna go fourteen and three and run away with
Speaker 2: the conference, not with the schedule they of coming up.
Speaker 2: The Niners desperately need their guys back. And I know
Speaker 2: you can say that about you know, every team. To
Speaker 2: a degree that's true. But they also play such a
Speaker 2: physical style of football that they are more susceptible to
Speaker 2: injuries than a lot of other teams are. And so
Speaker 2: it is the Yes, the Niners were not going to
Speaker 2: overreact and act like they're, you know, some second rate team.
Speaker 2: But any team in all of NFL history, if your
Speaker 2: biggest question mark on your team is your quarterback, you
Speaker 2: can always get got you just can't. And the Niners,
Speaker 2: even before last night, everyone would have had to acknowledge
Speaker 2: the biggest question mark was their quarterback and now, and
Speaker 2: this is the part of when you have nothing but success,
Speaker 2: it starts to be a ball rolling downhill in a
Speaker 2: positive direction. Now, the next time brock Purty finds himself
Speaker 2: in this situation, it instantly becomes the biggest moment of
Speaker 2: his career. And he knows it right. There is a
Speaker 2: level of in sports. If the first time you ever
Speaker 2: take a potential game winning shot, you make it, you
Speaker 2: are so much more likely to then be good at
Speaker 2: those in the short term. And if the first time
Speaker 2: you whiff, then the next time it gets harder, and
Speaker 2: then it gets way harder, and then all of a
Speaker 2: sudden you're a guy who just can't do it. And
Speaker 2: so this is where I.
Speaker 4: Just like pas like downfall.
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm not No, it's just I'm not trying.
Speaker 4: I'm not truth in the psychology to it. I get
Speaker 4: what you're saying, But.
Speaker 2: What I this is not this is not fair, but
Speaker 2: I think it's true. It's not It shouldn't say it's
Speaker 2: not fair. It seemed well, whatever it is. If the
Speaker 2: Browns kicker hadn't made the field goal against Cleveland, party
Speaker 2: might have been better on those final drives last night.
Speaker 2: If the previous week he was in this spot and
Speaker 2: he did everything the exact same, but it had resulted
Speaker 2: in a win, then maybe he's a little less anxious
Speaker 2: on these two drives at the end. But instead the
Speaker 2: kicker missed. Then perty made big mistakes and now we'll see, now.
Speaker 3: We see very well could get that same opportunity in
Speaker 3: the Bengals game, I feel absolutely.
Speaker 2: And by the way, it's gonna be another game with
Speaker 2: no debo, hopefully for them. Trent Williams is back, but
Speaker 2: another game with no deba All right, next.
Speaker 3: All right, man, the Chiefs took care of business and
Speaker 3: they beat a struggling Chargers team that's done everything except
Speaker 3: for lock up the division. You've already hung up the banners.
Speaker 3: When has that ever gone wrong? So is your fear
Speaker 3: that for the Chiefs that their biggest threat is being
Speaker 3: too complacent or being stagnant, given that they haven't really
Speaker 3: played you know.
Speaker 4: Super Bowl teams.
Speaker 2: No, because that's coming. Listen. They're gonna beat the Broncos
Speaker 2: this weekend, and then they have over their final nine
Speaker 2: games four games against pardon me, legitimate teams Dolphins, Eagles,
Speaker 2: and back to back games the Bills and the Bengals,
Speaker 2: and so they're not going I would have been a
Speaker 2: little nervous about that. If the chief schedule had been
Speaker 2: reversed where the softest part was at the end instead
Speaker 2: of the beginning, that would make me a little nervous
Speaker 2: for the playoffs, that they wouldn't be sharp. But they're
Speaker 2: gonna have to be sharp. And here's the other thing.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you're gonna agree with me
Speaker 2: or not not, but I do truly believe this. Travis
Speaker 2: Kelcey trying to impress his new girlfriend is great for
Speaker 2: the Chiefs avoiding complacency. This is the greatest tight end ever.
Speaker 2: Who's wildly wealthy, wildly famous, wildly successful. Yeah, and thirty yes,
Speaker 2: and but now at thirty four years old, he listen,
Speaker 2: it can go wrong, but you in that. You saw
Speaker 2: the touchdown he scored where he thought he was at
Speaker 2: the one inch line, but was at the three yard
Speaker 2: line and put the ball over his head and then
Speaker 2: somehow must have the strongest hands in football, held onto
Speaker 2: it and scored. He doesn't do that if Taylor Swift's
Speaker 2: not at the game. He was like, oh man, this
Speaker 2: might be my only chance score touchdown. I gotta do it.
Speaker 2: He when he finally didn't catch a pass and he
Speaker 2: was so furious. Like, I do think there is, and
Speaker 2: I think that basically anyone who's ever played sports knows
Speaker 2: there is an added little sharpness. If someone that you're
Speaker 2: talking to or want to talk to is in the
Speaker 2: crowd demons, truth, listen, you played sports at a far
Speaker 2: higher level than me. True or false, there's an added
Speaker 2: something if your girl or you want to be girl.
Speaker 4: Isn't completely correct.
Speaker 3: And it's just really funny because I've never heard it
Speaker 3: like worded like that. But yeah, I do think you
Speaker 3: get plus three on your attributes.
Speaker 2: Yes, if you great, If you're a great player. Now
Speaker 2: if you're not, it can go in the opposite, exact
Speaker 2: opposite direction. Get nervous if you're just like a mediocre player,
Speaker 2: Like I'll be totally I'll be totally honest. Here you were.
Speaker 2: You were a great athlete and a great basketball player.
Speaker 2: I was. I loved basketball. I was by no means
Speaker 2: a great basketball player, and I think I got worse
Speaker 2: at games that my girlfriend was at in high school,
Speaker 2: you know, like I do, Like I think it was
Speaker 2: it because and because I was like, ah, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna have that many opportunities to shine. So like, maybe
Speaker 2: I tried to do too much. But if you're a star,
Speaker 2: if you're a star and you know you're gonna get
Speaker 2: the ball, you know it's gonna run through you.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it's good for the Chiefs. I do. Now.
Speaker 2: She goes on an international tour in November, so I
Speaker 2: don't know how that's gonna play out, but I but yeah,
Speaker 2: So I'm not worried about the Chiefs at all. They
Speaker 2: have the best record in football, they have the second
Speaker 2: best events in football. They have a top five dolphins
Speaker 2: in football, and they're doing it all while practicing. So
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about that in the least. All right,
Speaker 2: let's talk Eagles here.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 3: So Philly looked dominant against the Dolphins, and a big
Speaker 3: part of it was the touch push. They used it
Speaker 3: in key moments and in some moments it even ice
Speaker 3: the game.
Speaker 4: The vikings, we're not talking about that.
Speaker 3: After the game, head coach Nick Sirianni said, every first
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna show a quote for those watching
Speaker 3: on YouTube, but he said, every first down is a
Speaker 3: first and nine people can't do it like we can
Speaker 3: do it. Don't ban this play. If everybody could do it,
Speaker 3: everybody would do it. Then he goes, where's the camera at? Yeah,
Speaker 3: some parlays just broke there. Some players broke their sport,
Speaker 3: like Kareem Skyhook. You got steps three and brady sneak?
Speaker 3: Is this cheating or have the.
Speaker 4: Eagles just found a cheek code and broke in the NFL?
Speaker 2: So it's not cheating at all, But it's going to
Speaker 2: go away like it's just so so there was there
Speaker 2: was no way to legislate out Kareem Skyhook. There is
Speaker 2: the people have talked by the way about since the
Speaker 2: proliferation of the three of if the NBA needs to
Speaker 2: tweak some things to make it less reliant on the three,
Speaker 2: but it would take such an overhaul. Brady's sneak was
Speaker 2: different than this because, while just as successful on fourth
Speaker 2: and less than one, it also looked like every sneak
Speaker 2: we've ever seen regularly. The NFL has two kind of
Speaker 2: silver bullets here. One is they already have rules against
Speaker 2: pulling offensive players, so it is not a far stretch
Speaker 2: to tweak the rule to put back in what once
Speaker 2: was and about pushing offensive players. The other one is
Speaker 2: the NFL will put it under the banner of player
Speaker 2: safety and say we you know what I mean, that
Speaker 2: we need to get rid of this play. But as
Speaker 2: I told you guys a month ago when everyone got
Speaker 2: mad at me, the reason the NFL will ban this
Speaker 2: is because the place sucks. It's not exciting. It takes
Speaker 2: all suspense out. It's an ugly play. That's it. The
Speaker 2: NFL changes rules all the time to make things a
Speaker 2: better television product. This is not good for TV. And
Speaker 2: I listen, I have come around in this regard. I
Speaker 2: do think Philly gets more credit given the fact that
Speaker 2: everyone else sucks at it. It does make it seem
Speaker 2: like there is more. It is more about their personnel
Speaker 2: and their practicing. I totally agree with that. It doesn't
Speaker 2: change the fact that the NFL is going to, I
Speaker 2: believe this offseason get rid of it. And here is
Speaker 2: the other piece of it that I have said before
Speaker 2: and I will say again that I don't understand why
Speaker 2: there has not been more. Once we saw Philly in
Speaker 2: a game they're up seven on fourth and more than
Speaker 2: one on their own twenty nine in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 2: confidently go for this, and Sirianni's right. It is first
Speaker 2: and nine for them. And if you're playing them on
Speaker 2: third downs, you can't play the sticks. You've got to
Speaker 2: play two yards short of the sticks, because if you
Speaker 2: get them to fourth in less than two they're just
Speaker 2: going to go for this and they're going to get it.
Speaker 2: But the point that I have tried to hammer that
Speaker 2: I think Philly knows, and I think because they don't
Speaker 2: want it banned, they are not attempting this. But I
Speaker 2: wonder if they could right now, Philly can basically with
Speaker 2: one hundred percent success get one yard and with close
Speaker 2: to one hundred percent success get two yards. If they
Speaker 2: were to become able to get three yards on this play,
Speaker 2: it puts the NFL in a spot where they would
Speaker 2: maybe ban it mid season if Philly could get three
Speaker 2: right now, they get like one and a half. If
Speaker 2: they could get three yards on this play and you're
Speaker 2: down four to the Eagles with eight and a half
Speaker 2: left in the fourth quarter, and they just run the
Speaker 2: tush push to until the clock expires, which is all
Speaker 2: you would add. Once they can get three yards, then
Speaker 2: it's just game over. You get you do it on
Speaker 2: first down, second down, third down, fourth down, new set
Speaker 2: of downs you wouldn't want to get seventeen yards. You
Speaker 2: just want to do it and be able to run
Speaker 2: the clock out north of the six minute mark. Then
Speaker 2: it irrevocably changes football in a way that you can
Speaker 2: argue is you know what I mean, Philly's earned it,
Speaker 2: whatever it is. I'm not trying to have that argument,
Speaker 2: but it would be terrible for the sport, just terrible.
Speaker 2: Philly fans would like it. Kind of Philly fans would
Speaker 2: like it the way you you like it. If your
Speaker 2: team is doing hack a shack in an NBA game,
Speaker 2: You're like, Okay, I guess it's you know, make your
Speaker 2: free throws. But it's not exactly fun. And so the
Speaker 2: fact that Philly is not too good at it is
Speaker 2: right now working in their advantage. But the NFL can't
Speaker 2: leave open to chance that this offseason they master it
Speaker 2: and it becomes the majority of their second half playbook.
Speaker 2: It's like, well, we can get three yards on it,
Speaker 2: I said, just running out the clock. If you could
Speaker 2: get three yards on this, and we're not that far
Speaker 2: from it, you could run it the entire game. If
Speaker 2: you can get three yards on it, you could run
Speaker 2: it the entire game.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Yeah, I don't think the Eagles are going
Speaker 3: to do that. They know that that's ugly. I think
Speaker 3: they did it four times this game. That's once a quarter.
Speaker 3: I can't see them just like spamming it like they
Speaker 3: know at the end of that nobody's trying to see
Speaker 3: all that.
Speaker 2: Come on, now, let me but right, I agree, But
Speaker 2: let me ask you a question. If they're if they've
Speaker 2: the the fact that that possibility exists, is why the
Speaker 2: NFL is going to get rid of it. Like Philly
Speaker 2: fans got so mad at me about this, I am not.
Speaker 2: Even from my own perspective. I think it's bad for
Speaker 2: the sport because it's an entertainment product and it's not entertaining.
Speaker 2: I would so, but set take take my opinion out
Speaker 2: of it. Non opinion, just prediction. My prediction is the
Speaker 2: Eagles have ten games plus the playoffs left of this
Speaker 2: play being available to them, and maybe, you know, hopefully
Speaker 2: for them, they make the most out of it. All right, next, this.
Speaker 3: Guy's gonna be praying for a Mahomes Tush push in
Speaker 3: a couple of years. I feel like it's still gonna
Speaker 3: be going on. You're gonna be like this.
Speaker 4: Rule this place. It's bad for the sport, it's really ugly.
Speaker 2: I mean, like there and there's an element of like,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. I compared it to seventy
Speaker 2: five years ago of baseball owner Bill Veck hired a
Speaker 2: little person I think he was two feet eleven inches
Speaker 2: tall to play on his baseball team, and he went
Speaker 2: and did he had him pinch hit. The guy had
Speaker 2: no strike zone, so he immediately got walked and then
Speaker 2: he put in a pinch runner. And you know, whatever
Speaker 2: it is, Baseball changed the rule like that week like
Speaker 2: and so there are certain things that you can say, oh,
Speaker 2: well that's you know why, it's only it's one teams
Speaker 2: figured it out, but it's just bad for the sport,
Speaker 2: all right, next, go ahead.
Speaker 4: All right, man.
Speaker 3: So my guy, Lamar Jackson definitely embarrassed Detroit. You've been
Speaker 3: having this team of the Week thing going on. I'm
Speaker 3: pretty sure Detroit was the team of the week and
Speaker 3: it's all been falling in line. They beat them, Lamar
Speaker 3: obviously looked phenomenal. Is Baltimore the real deal or are they
Speaker 3: just the next team to beat? Do you think they're
Speaker 3: bound for an upset?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, listen, they're playing at the Cardinals. So
Speaker 2: I don't you know that would be a horrific loss,
Speaker 2: right They then they Seattle Cleveland Cincinnati in the next
Speaker 2: three weeks. Then you know what I mean, all in Baltimore.
Speaker 2: By the way, those should be three good games. Uh.
Speaker 2: I think I missed on the Ravens this year. I
Speaker 2: think I missed on it. Lamar looks you listen, I'll
Speaker 2: give you credit, Lamar, Lamar looks great.
Speaker 4: Looks great, great. He looked really good, man. His decision making.
Speaker 3: I think there was a bunch of times where he
Speaker 3: it looked like he was about to runoff.
Speaker 4: It looked like he was about to get sacked, and he.
Speaker 3: Played around in the pocket a little bit longer, and
Speaker 3: he did the dink and dunk passes that you say
Speaker 3: that he's kind of like been very missy on. He
Speaker 3: was hitting the short ones, he was hitting the long,
Speaker 3: extended played ones. He looked really good, man, He looked
Speaker 3: really good.
Speaker 2: That first point you made, Demanse is exactly what jumped
Speaker 2: out to me as well, which was there were at
Speaker 2: least three times in this game where in the past
Speaker 2: he would have taken off running and instead he kind
Speaker 2: of just stayed not necessarily in the pocket, but behind
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage with his eyes downfield, and then
Speaker 2: either made One time he made a deep pass to
Speaker 2: the end zone. One time it was a little over
Speaker 2: the top pass, I think, or maybe I'm not sure. No, regardless,
Speaker 2: uh he there. You know, the RPO is the run
Speaker 2: pass option, and he's been a lot more r than
Speaker 2: P in his history on those plays. This week he
Speaker 2: was key. And No, the Ravens are scary right now.
Speaker 2: And the defense, despite the injuries, is allowing fourteen points
Speaker 2: per game that you appears you nailed that one and
Speaker 2: he and listen, I'm not gonna all of a sudden
Speaker 2: act like I don't think the Lions are good. The
Speaker 2: Lions are good, and the Lions defense had been playing
Speaker 2: well this year and Lamar cut them up, and the
Speaker 2: Lions offenses golf hadn't had a terrible game in a year,
Speaker 2: and he was bad. Like, No, the Ravens are legit,
Speaker 2: they gotta stay healthy, but they're a scary team.
Speaker 3: Just so everybody knows that Lamar and the Ravens that's
Speaker 3: my team. I know I've been advocating very heavy for
Speaker 3: the Niners and Party, but that's just because I'm all
Speaker 3: for a good story.
Speaker 4: My heart.
Speaker 2: That is Demanse's team. That was Demande's Madden team, that
Speaker 2: was his team in the offseason that he announced. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: the Ravens are Demanse's team. That is true.
Speaker 4: You can have too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So how stupid does it seem that these teams
Speaker 3: wouldn't trade to first? For Lamar and the Lions, the Falcons,
Speaker 3: the Colts, the Patriots, Jets, Panthers, Commanders.
Speaker 2: I would say they wouldn't trade to first. Demonse is
Speaker 2: that they proactively like release statements like we're not interested,
Speaker 2: we don't want to be involved. It's crazy.
Speaker 4: It is crazy.
Speaker 2: How that looks right now is crazy. Even if people think, well,
Speaker 2: the Ravens would have matched and you wouldn't have gotten him, Okay,
Speaker 2: so be it. At least then you tried, like the
Speaker 2: could the Patriots right now be five and two instead
Speaker 2: of two and five if Lamar was there instead of
Speaker 2: mac Jones, of course they could. All right, take quick
Speaker 2: break reminder, you guys can ask questions in the chat.
Speaker 2: We'll get to them, do a little NBA preview, and
Speaker 2: then get to your questions. All that to next Well,
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Speaker 2: All Right, believe it or not, the NBA season starts tonight.
Speaker 2: It doesn't really feel like it, but it does. Demand's
Speaker 2: let's talk a little NBA here. This show is gonna
Speaker 2: stay mostly football until February, but we can do a
Speaker 2: little NBA season preview here.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, all right, let's talk a little Dylan Brooks
Speaker 3: so NBA season. The NBA season tips off tonight, and
Speaker 3: the raining champs are facing the Lakers.
Speaker 4: Lebron and the Lakers to be specific.
Speaker 3: Now, Denver has been talking a lot of trash ever
Speaker 3: since the sweep Los Angeles Lockings for revenge, What do
Speaker 3: you expect out of the new look Lakers on ring
Speaker 3: night in Denver.
Speaker 2: I want to see Austin Reeves.
Speaker 5: Look.
Speaker 2: I want to see how Austin Reeves looks the you know,
Speaker 2: is Austin Reeves going to transition from really good story
Speaker 2: to legit third option? If he does, the Lakers are right.
Speaker 2: They are a cut below Milwaukee, Boston, Denver, but a
Speaker 2: cut above everybody else. And that just means you need
Speaker 2: Denver to falter a little bit. And so I, oh,
Speaker 2: this game tonight, obviously, I think has more of an
Speaker 2: emotional heft for the Lakers than it does for the Nuggets.
Speaker 2: And there is an element of the I go back
Speaker 2: to those Western Armburence finals and Jokic was unbelievable, but
Speaker 2: Jokic was believably unbelievable, Like Jokic's numbers were not shocking
Speaker 2: by Jokic standard, which speaks to, you know, you know,
Speaker 2: what a great player he's become. The player who played
Speaker 2: outside of his mind was Jamal Murray. Jamal Murray, just
Speaker 2: for the record in in the Western Armours finals was
Speaker 2: thirty three, six and five on fifty two forty ninety five.
Speaker 2: Splits Just a little context there that is more points
Speaker 2: per game in a conference finals than Michael Jordan ever averaged,
Speaker 2: then Kobe Bryant ever averaged. Then I think it's everyone
Speaker 2: other than Amari Stodemeyer and Lebron James and there's one
Speaker 2: other guy I can't remember are the only people to
Speaker 2: ever at Maybe that might be right. Actually I'd have
Speaker 2: to look, but that might be right to ever average
Speaker 2: in conference finals. The reason I say that is everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 2: what's the Lakers answer for Jokic? They in order to
Speaker 2: have made those conference finals more competitive, they didn't need
Speaker 2: a different answer for Jokic. They needed Jamal Murray not
Speaker 2: to turn into prime Dwayne Wade, which is what he
Speaker 2: was in that series. And Jamal Murray's an excellent player,
Speaker 2: but he had literally one of the greatest conference finals ever.
Speaker 2: And so that's what I So, I'm intrigued to watch
Speaker 2: that the Nuggets are mostly the same team. The Lakers
Speaker 2: are not the same, but they have, you know, some
Speaker 2: tweaks around the edges, and that you know, Lebron takes
Speaker 2: the court tonight. It's not only year twenty one, which
Speaker 2: only six other guys have ever gotten to, but now
Speaker 2: that Iguidala has retired, demon's he's the oldest player in league.
Speaker 2: In the league, Lebron is literally not like the oldest
Speaker 2: guy who plays a lot. No, he's the oldest player
Speaker 2: in the league. And the fact that the expectations are
Speaker 2: still that, yeah, he's around, you know, a top ten player.
Speaker 2: There's no context for that. There's no The best year
Speaker 2: twenty one season ever is like seven points a game,
Speaker 2: and people expect Lebron to average twenty seven. So I'm
Speaker 2: excited to watch all of that.
Speaker 3: So go ahead, I've got a little stat and you're
Speaker 3: saying you're excited for the opener.
Speaker 4: So the Lakers haven't won an opener since twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: That was versus Houston. They haven't won an open on
Speaker 3: the road since two thousand and five, and that was
Speaker 3: also an overtime win against Detroit.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh five. That would mean the defending champion Pistons,
Speaker 2: And that would also be the without Shack. That would
Speaker 2: be the Lakers right after they had traded Shack to
Speaker 2: the Miami Heat. Because the four Pistons beat the Do
Speaker 2: I have that right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: The four Pistons beat the four Lakers and five in
Speaker 2: the finals. Then Shaq and Kobe officially broke up. I
Speaker 2: don't really care about the opener stats. I mean, I
Speaker 2: appreciate you giving them to me, but that's not like
Speaker 2: this is to me a different spot And I am curious,
Speaker 2: like you know, I Jokics doesn't seem like the type
Speaker 2: of guy who gets like extra motivated by stuff. And Jokics,
Speaker 2: to his credit, didn't talk any trash. It was all
Speaker 2: Mike Malone in tertiary pieces that we're talking trash. I'm
Speaker 2: excited to see it, all right, next.
Speaker 3: All right, so we talked about opening night, Let's talk
Speaker 3: about the season. The Suns obviously built a super team.
Speaker 3: Is this Kevin Durant's fourth or fifth super team?
Speaker 4: Do we not count?
Speaker 3: Okay, see because it was like natural, but the Sons
Speaker 3: obviously built a super team. Dame is playing with a
Speaker 3: freshly paid Giannis, and Wimby's finally in the league, and
Speaker 3: sure Lebron's going on number twenty year twenty one with.
Speaker 4: Another super team. It's probably his third super team. What's
Speaker 4: the number one thing?
Speaker 2: How are the Lakers a super team?
Speaker 4: I might have right there.
Speaker 3: They've they've got a the what's the number one thing
Speaker 3: that you're excited to track?
Speaker 4: This NBA season.
Speaker 2: I know it's got to say. I mean, I'm pretty listen.
Speaker 2: I have been the pump the breaks on Wimby Guy.
Speaker 2: The preseason got me pretty excited for him. I mean,
Speaker 2: it does look the I I still believe the offense
Speaker 2: is going to be a major work in progress. But defensively,
Speaker 2: I don't even know what the ceiling is. I just
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, it just seems impossible some of
Speaker 2: the stuff that he's able to do. So I'm super
Speaker 2: excited to watch that. I don't know if you saw it.
Speaker 2: People got very mad at me last week. The internet
Speaker 2: hated this opinion speaking of Boston Reeves when I said,
Speaker 2: we were talking Suns versus Lakers because Bleacher Report did
Speaker 2: a best duos in the league and they had Katie
Speaker 2: and Booker ahead of Lebron an ad and I said,
Speaker 2: I flatly think that's wrong. I think Lebron is still
Speaker 2: better than Durant and you the argument against Lebron versus
Speaker 2: certain guys is, yeah, okay, he's better, but he misses
Speaker 2: twenty five games a year. But you can't use that
Speaker 2: argument in a Durant discussion. Lebron has been healthier than Durant.
Speaker 2: You know, over the last three years ever since Durant
Speaker 2: blew his achilles. Even if you remove that season, Lebron
Speaker 2: has played more games, they score the same amount, and
Speaker 2: Lebron is to me just better over player. And so
Speaker 2: I said, I thought ad was better than Booker. I
Speaker 2: think Lebron is at the very least dead even with Durant.
Speaker 2: So I thought they were the better duo. And then
Speaker 2: Wilde said, okay, we'll find somebody said, I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's wild to brew I want to misquote him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but then the Suns have the better trio because Bradley
Speaker 2: Beal versus Austin Reeves. And the Internet killed me for this,
Speaker 2: I said, And I said, I disagree with that. I said,
Speaker 2: I would rather have Austin Reeves as my third option. Now,
Speaker 2: there is a very specific point I'm trying to make here,
Speaker 2: which is I think Bradley Beal. If you were like, hey,
Speaker 2: one of these guys has to be the best player
Speaker 2: on your team, obviously you'd rather have Bradley Beal. If
Speaker 2: your team's best player is Austin Reeves, you're in real trouble.
Speaker 2: But if one of if the question is, one of
Speaker 2: these guys has to be the clear cut number three
Speaker 2: on your team. I have more faith and reason to
Speaker 2: believe that Austin Reeves can play that role at a
Speaker 2: high level than Bradley Beal, who's never even been the
Speaker 2: number two option on a team. He was the leading
Speaker 2: scorer in the NBA, and I now I I'll also
Speaker 2: say this that people disagreed with. I think both the
Speaker 2: Lakers and the Suns would be better if Beal and
Speaker 2: Reeves switch places. I think if Reeves were on the
Speaker 2: Suns and if Beal were on the Lakers, both teams
Speaker 2: be better. I think Beal adds things to the Lakers
Speaker 2: shooting that they need, and I think Reeves adds things
Speaker 2: to the Suns being able to contribute without having the
Speaker 2: ball in your hands. And just you know, no, no,
Speaker 2: not humbleness. It's not that. I just I think there
Speaker 2: are like, let me put it like this, here's a
Speaker 2: different way to look at it. Take Austin Reeves and
Speaker 2: the Lakers out of it. Would the Denver Nuggets last
Speaker 2: year have been better off with Bradley Beal or Aaron Gordon?
Speaker 2: The answer is obviously Aaron Gordon. Is Bradley Beal better
Speaker 2: than Aaron Gordon? Sure? But as far as being the
Speaker 2: third option guy doing different things, Aaron Gordon was perfect
Speaker 2: for that team. Now, with all that said, Bradley Beal's
Speaker 2: already out for tonight with a back injury. So a
Speaker 2: Sun team that is you know, health is a major
Speaker 2: question mark, in depth is a major question mark. Already
Speaker 2: isn't gonna have their full complimented guys. Uh But if Pool.
Speaker 3: Goes and averages forty points this season, this is I
Speaker 3: know this isn't going off on a tangent here, But
Speaker 3: if he goes off and average is like, all right,
Speaker 3: not call it forty thirty to thirty five points? Do
Speaker 3: you think any Do you think success from Pool this
Speaker 3: season gets the guy fired that made the trade? I
Speaker 3: just think I really want that trade to end up
Speaker 3: looking really stupid.
Speaker 4: I got a lot of sweat.
Speaker 2: In Then, in what universe can Jordan Poole average thirty
Speaker 2: to thirty five.
Speaker 4: Points in this one?
Speaker 2: What do you mean that doesn't exist? The guy can't
Speaker 2: average thirty to thirty five said, he's on the Wizards.
Speaker 2: He's not averaging thirty plus Jordan Poole.
Speaker 3: No, that's what That's what I'll be tracking is the
Speaker 3: usage of Chris Paul over in the in the Warriors,
Speaker 3: and what Jordan Poole does over there in Washington.
Speaker 4: Traded up, Jordan pulls in.
Speaker 2: Jordan Pool's in a perfect spot. He can put up
Speaker 2: empty numbers on a bad team. I get that, but
Speaker 2: he's still not gonna average thirty plus. I mean, give
Speaker 2: me a break. I mean, he's the He's not. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't even know what to do that. That take
Speaker 2: took me by storm. The now here is the The
Speaker 2: other most interesting storyline right now in the NBA is
Speaker 2: obviously what's gonna happen in Philly. People have written off
Speaker 2: the Miami Heat, maybe a touch prematurely because they didn't
Speaker 2: get Dame. And then do the Warriors have one last
Speaker 2: running them? Which I'm fascinated by. I know you said
Speaker 2: they traded Jordan Poole for a fossil. I don't even
Speaker 2: know if Chris Paul is gonna be on that team
Speaker 2: all year? But do they have one more running them?
Speaker 2: And then one last thing in the West? Like who
Speaker 2: who is? Who? Do we know is gonna be bad
Speaker 2: in the West? Okay, I'll start Portland. After that, the
Speaker 2: Spurs will be bad but fun to watch, and the
Speaker 2: Rockets will be bad. Every other team is trying to win.
Speaker 2: Maybe the Jazz will be bad. But take those four
Speaker 2: teams out. Here are the other teams, the Pelicans, the MAVs,
Speaker 2: the Nuggets, the Warriors, the Clippers, the Lakers, the Timberwolves,
Speaker 2: the Suns, the Kings, the thunder the Grizzlies. Okay, so
Speaker 2: that's eleven teams. One of them won't even make the
Speaker 2: playing three of them won't make the playoffs. The Grizzlies
Speaker 2: are an interesting one to watch with Steven Adams being
Speaker 2: done for the year. I the Clippers are an interesting
Speaker 2: one to watch given their health concerns, and the Pelicans,
Speaker 2: given their health concerns, are an interesting one as well.
Speaker 2: But there are gonna be some teams in the West
Speaker 2: just devastatingly disappointed on how this season goes.
Speaker 3: All right, next, All right, it's time for a game
Speaker 3: we haven't played in a while, Public defender, the time
Speaker 3: has come.
Speaker 4: Bring back what's right? No, no, no uh. The first off,
Speaker 4: we're gonna start off with you encouraging me to bet
Speaker 4: the Bills last week. I think you encouraged me so much.
Speaker 3: That that team wasn't even in my teaser, and you
Speaker 3: had me take a team out and put them in
Speaker 3: because you were just that's correct.
Speaker 2: I felt Patriots, you know what. I felt terribly about
Speaker 2: that until I realized your teaser died because you didn't
Speaker 2: like yeah, because you had the Lions plus thirteen. I
Speaker 2: really felt sick about that. And then I looked back
Speaker 2: at it, I'm like, oh, you screwed yourself before the
Speaker 2: Bills even did it.
Speaker 3: But go ahead, all right, so counselor defend your client
Speaker 3: Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills for losing to the
Speaker 3: famished Patriots.
Speaker 2: All right, you know what I entered. This is one
Speaker 2: of my favorite games. But in a day where we've
Speaker 2: had Monday Night football and the Brock Party stuff in
Speaker 2: an NBA season preview, and we're this late, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: do a half hearted effort at some of these. I
Speaker 2: have no defense of Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2: They are exactly what the actual Nick Wright said they were.
Speaker 2: I'm not engaging on this. They are an up and
Speaker 2: down team that is untrustworthy that under this iteration, missed
Speaker 2: their window. Next.
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert is twenty seven and twenty eight as a
Speaker 3: starting as a starting quarterback in the NFL he's able
Speaker 3: to hide behind the incompetence of his coach. But Joe
Speaker 3: Burrow overcame Zach Taylor, and Tom Brady overcame Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3: This guy might just be the Philip Rivers were kids,
Speaker 3: counselor defend your client.
Speaker 4: Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so once again, I'm gonna recuse myself from this. Listen.
Speaker 2: I said it before and it was one of the
Speaker 2: best compliments Demons ever gave me when I just said
Speaker 2: something and he just goes bar and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: he liked what I said. Justin Herbert is not the problem.
Speaker 2: But he's paid to be the solution and he hasn't been.
Speaker 2: And he's had back to back bad games right after
Speaker 2: getting paid. And we listen, he is Justin Herbert is
Speaker 2: a good to very good player. He should be better
Speaker 2: by now. This is on the undeniable.
Speaker 3: Some of the throws that I'm seeing that he's not
Speaker 3: making has got nothing to do with coaching.
Speaker 2: It's Justin Herbert, correct, That's correct. And listen, he's got
Speaker 2: a rocket arm and under better circumstances, like you know,
Speaker 2: maybe things are going differently for him. But it is
Speaker 2: undeniable that up to this point he's been slightly disappointing
Speaker 2: given how Grady looked as a rookie. I understand I'm
Speaker 2: not really playing the public defender game right now, but
Speaker 2: that's because we're short on time, so I can't even
Speaker 2: really mentally fully get in character right now. But go ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So we complain about the refs every year, but the
Speaker 3: refs had a huge role in the Rams, Steelers and
Speaker 3: Brown's cults and Eagles Dolphins finishes, not to mention how
Speaker 3: every single call goes the way of the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3: Counselor defend your client, NFL refs.
Speaker 2: Listen, these are old guys. They're all I mean. Here
Speaker 2: is what I will say. I'm glad folks are now recognizing.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh wow, look at that every nationally televised
Speaker 2: game has an egregious missed call, if not more than one.
Speaker 2: It's not about the Chiefs always getting the benefit of
Speaker 2: a the whistle. It's about the fact that the Chiefs,
Speaker 2: because they're the Chiefs, are in standalone nationally televised games
Speaker 2: more often than other teams, so it seems like it
Speaker 2: disproportionately impacts them.
Speaker 4: But every game so far, the Chiefs have come dude,
Speaker 4: Like what you just said.
Speaker 2: I know it's wild, I know it's an insane thing,
Speaker 2: but it's true. Uh but every game that you watch
Speaker 2: all the way through, you're like, oh, well that was terrible.
Speaker 2: That was terrible. Like there's a right. The officiating in
Speaker 2: the NFL this year has not been good. There's no
Speaker 2: way around it. Just flat lee hasn't been good. And
Speaker 2: then you wanted me to defend myself for betting the
Speaker 2: Bears Raiders game. I'm not gonna do that. It was
Speaker 2: one of the worst bets I've ever made in my life.
Speaker 2: Quick break right back, answer your questions. What's right? All right, demanse,
Speaker 2: Let's ask some questions her.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, all right, Austin are asked, Nick, when are
Speaker 3: we gonna hear your wife's take on Taylor Swift now
Speaker 3: that she's inspiring Kelsey to play out of his mind?
Speaker 2: Well, I got to ask her about that, and maybe
Speaker 2: it's evolved. I'm not sure what I will say is
Speaker 2: I think I so Wilds has the best take on this,
Speaker 2: and Wilds hasn't said this on television yet, so I
Speaker 2: just give him credit. I don't know if he's going
Speaker 2: to and his take on this is that life is
Speaker 2: high school, that all of your whole life is just
Speaker 2: high school. And so what's happening here is Taylor Swift
Speaker 2: in high school was the band kid, the music kid,
Speaker 2: and and the idea of like dating the star football
Speaker 2: player was like the coolest thing imagining. And now she can.
Speaker 2: And she's wearing his letterman jacket, hanging out with the
Speaker 2: other star player's girlfriend wife and brisng time and truly
Speaker 2: having the time of her life. And I think this
Speaker 2: is genuine man. She is genuinely excited during these games,
Speaker 2: genuinely rooting for him, and you can tell there is
Speaker 2: a great There is a great image from this weekend's
Speaker 2: game when Mahomes throws to Kelsey in the end zone.
Speaker 2: He doesn't catch it, but he gets the past interference
Speaker 2: flag and there's Taylor Swift and Britney Mahomes side by
Speaker 2: side in the box and Taylor jumps up, puts her
Speaker 2: hands on her face and is like devastated, and Britney
Speaker 2: is momentarily upset, sees the flag and then starts celebrating
Speaker 2: and Taylor's confused, and it's like, oh, this is like
Speaker 2: a learning football moment too. Like Britney, who by the
Speaker 2: way another. As Wilde says, another example of this is
Speaker 2: high school. Patrick Mahomes had a crush on this girl
Speaker 2: as a ninth grader and it's just been madly in
Speaker 2: love with her ever since. Just loves her. But she's
Speaker 2: she's been watching football forever and she's like, oh, flag,
Speaker 2: we got it. Taylor doesn't understand what's going on. I
Speaker 2: think it's delightful. I like it. And people are like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah. And the fact that Kelsey another thing that
Speaker 2: was asked me yesterday, They're like, do you buy the
Speaker 2: story that Kelsey bought a new house because of this,
Speaker 2: like the relationship, because that was reported, like lightly reported,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, totally seems plausible in this regard. People
Speaker 2: don't understand Kan City. Kent City has like two gated
Speaker 2: communities in the whole city. There's like two places you
Speaker 2: can live where someone can't just like come knock on
Speaker 2: your door. My guess is I haven't been to Travis's house,
Speaker 2: but my guess is Travis was living in a normal,
Speaker 2: nice house in Kansas City, probably in the plaza somewhere
Speaker 2: where just literally anybody can come ring up exactly right, correct,
Speaker 2: And so I think it's like, man, like that, and
Speaker 2: so I think that's probably what happened, all right.
Speaker 4: Next, sorry, gronky mister chance.
Speaker 3: TOC three K said, the brotherly shove is no different
Speaker 3: than when the Bears used to snap it to the fridge.
Speaker 3: Nick Perry was getting the yard, no question, Why would
Speaker 3: the league ban the modern day version of that play.
Speaker 3: It's a lot funner than a touch push dude.
Speaker 2: Okay, so no, but that's also this is where people
Speaker 2: I have TOC three K not your fault. I apologize,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna go ahead and say, you don't know
Speaker 2: what you're talking about. First of all, because the guy's
Speaker 2: name was Richard Perry or William Perry. Richard Perry, Now
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm talking about. His name was
Speaker 2: William Perry, first of all, not Nick Perry. So and
Speaker 2: I'm going to I'll check it in a moment, but
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess William the refrigerator Perry has fewer than
Speaker 2: ten career rushing attempts and fewer than five career touchdowns.
Speaker 2: The idea that the Bears in the eighties, who had
Speaker 2: Walter Payton at running back, were regularly giving it to
Speaker 2: their three hundred pound d tackle because it was funny.
Speaker 2: Is just it is just not what the historical record is,
Speaker 2: and it certainly wasn't Nick Perry. All right, well who
Speaker 2: is Nick the So hold on, I.
Speaker 4: Think I've heard the name before.
Speaker 3: I think he's a musician, Nick Perry Blackers actually, now
Speaker 3: that I think about it.
Speaker 2: Now that you think about it, Okay, So here's William
Speaker 2: Perry's career numbers. All right. William Perry in his career
Speaker 2: has eight rushes for five yards and two touchdowns. So,
Speaker 2: first of all, decidedly did not always work. Second of all,
Speaker 2: they did it eight times ever five and one year.
Speaker 2: And then you add in the playoffs. He did it
Speaker 2: once in the Super Bowl. So his entire career, William
Speaker 2: Perry had three touchdowns. So no, it's not quite the
Speaker 2: same as the tush push, which was done successfully more
Speaker 2: on Sunday Night than every carry of William Perry's career.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, producers.
Speaker 4: Producers asked.
Speaker 3: Joe Lacob said the Warriors should retire thirty five for KD.
Speaker 4: Do you agree?
Speaker 2: So just so you know it's lake ub Yeah, he won. Yes,
Speaker 2: he won two finals MVPs for you, and then came
Speaker 2: back early from an injury. Because you guys put a
Speaker 2: little pressure on him and uh and popped his achilles.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I do agree. I agree you should retire
Speaker 2: his jersey. He won two finals MVPs for you and
Speaker 2: was excellent for you for three seasons, So yeah, you
Speaker 2: retire his jersey. By the way, it's not a statue.
Speaker 2: Like the statue question is going to be an interesting
Speaker 2: question for the Warriors in this regard. Is it just
Speaker 2: Steph or do they give one to Steph play and Draymond?
Speaker 2: If they do that is Steve Kerr on the statue?
Speaker 2: Is it one giant statue? Do they all get their
Speaker 2: own in that? Like Iguidala to me is a retired jersey.
Speaker 2: He's a retired jersey, not a statue. That's in my opinion,
Speaker 2: that's Iggy. Obviously Steph is a statue. I feel like
Speaker 2: Clay and Dragon.
Speaker 3: What I feel like if yeah, I feel like Kurr.
Speaker 3: I think it should be Steph, Clay, Kurr, Dre.
Speaker 2: I mean all their own statue or one giant one
Speaker 2: the four of them. I don't know. Gether that to
Speaker 2: me though, almost like if they they want to do
Speaker 2: that and then also a Stephan statue, So Steph gets
Speaker 2: too like Stephan needs some special treatment there. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: I'm also I'm a believer that you know, I think
Speaker 2: Lebron should have a statue in all three places. I
Speaker 2: the he obviously Cleveland. The Lakers have a lot of
Speaker 2: guys with statues. It's you know what I mean, they
Speaker 2: have a whole stat monument partner. No, I mean he
Speaker 2: wanted he brought they misplayoffs six raight years. He wins
Speaker 2: him a championship. He also broke Kareem's record in your jersey.
Speaker 2: He's played for the Lakers longer than he played for
Speaker 2: the Heat at this point. And obviously the Heat. What
Speaker 2: the the the the again, Like the coolest statue that
Speaker 2: they could make for the Heat would be a statue
Speaker 2: of the famous iconic Way. Yeah, but that to me
Speaker 2: would like be giving Wade a short shrift like you
Speaker 2: do that. Then he also still needs his own standalone statue,
Speaker 2: you know, because Way he's the greatest player in the
Speaker 2: history of the Miami Heat franchise because of what he
Speaker 2: did totality of his career. All right, really, good show,
Speaker 2: I gotta run. We don't have to answer any more questions.
Speaker 2: I'll see you guys on the herd. In about ninety minutes.
Speaker 2: See you on First things first at three o'clock. See
Speaker 2: if I unveil my purty cousin's take, we'll do it.
Speaker 2: We'll do it all later today. See you guys. What's
Speaker 2: right