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Speaker 2: Welcome in What Drive with Nick Wright, Episode one e eight.

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Speaker 2: You know, let's just get right into it. If the

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Speaker 2: NBA starts tonight, the Chiefs are in first place in

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Speaker 2: the whole league, the Bills are falling apart, and yet

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Speaker 2: none of that. I had a winning weekend of Picks,

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Speaker 2: even though I gave Demond's a terrible teaser advice that

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Speaker 2: cost him. None of that is the lead story today. Instead,

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Speaker 2: of course, we'll talk Monday Night football. First, let me

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Speaker 2: get to what missed the cut not On today's show.

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams and the USC Trojans lose again. B Jean

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Speaker 2: Robinson sick, the NFL's investigating in case you had props

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Speaker 2: or fantasy on it, and Nick's apology to Tyson Bagent.

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Speaker 2: You'll yeah, listen, Tyson, you were better than I thought

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Speaker 2: you would be. Cost you know what. My apologies in

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Speaker 2: the form of how much money you cost me this weekend? Demonse,

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Speaker 2: how are you doing this morning? We were texting during

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Speaker 2: the game, You're calling me a hater? You were, you

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Speaker 2: know you were. I think a little disappointed in me.

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Speaker 2: But be honest, before we get into the actual story.

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Speaker 2: When you were watching that, did you have a moment

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Speaker 2: where you're like, God, dog it. He can be annoying,

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Speaker 2: he can be obnoxious, but my dad might know what

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Speaker 2: he's talking about sometime.

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Speaker 3: Be honest, Yeah, I mean I think that happens all

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Speaker 3: the time. It's just your delivery makes it hard to accept.

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Speaker 2: You know, that is correct, story of my life, more

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Speaker 2: often than not proven correct. People though, don't want to

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Speaker 2: accept it because I'm so abrasive with how I deliver

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Speaker 2: the information. Speaking of delivering the information, demonsay, what happened

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Speaker 2: on Monday Night football last night?

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Speaker 3: Well so brock Party lost to the Vikings twenty two

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Speaker 3: to seventeen. This was in Minnesota though. Yeah, so he

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Speaker 3: threw a pick at the end when he had a

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Speaker 4: But that was followed by a.

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Speaker 3: Two nice passes that got them in that position. But

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Speaker 3: when I were to talk about that obviously, So this

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Speaker 3: you think that the party train of the party hype

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Speaker 4: You think you know? Rally?

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Speaker 2: Well? No, I mean listen, I Mahomes Mountain on TV

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Speaker 2: gonna fall? Uh? Probably won't fall because he is who

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Speaker 2: I told you he was. Oh, Nick, what more do

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Speaker 2: you need to see? Well, I told you exactly what

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Speaker 2: I wanted to see. Brock Purty down a score, chance

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Speaker 2: to drive the field. We saw it last week down two,

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Speaker 2: and on the very first play of the drive, he

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Speaker 2: threw it right Greg Newsom, who dropped it. He then

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Speaker 2: threw a dump off pass to Brandon Ayuku took it

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Speaker 2: you want from him? It's not his fault they missed

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Speaker 2: the kick, And I was like, I don't know. Over

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Speaker 2: the first fifty eight minutes of the game, not get

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Speaker 2: out played by PJ. Walker just because you're down a

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Speaker 2: over the course of that game he was fine. Over

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Speaker 2: the course of the game, brock Purty was doing brock

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Speaker 2: Purty things, throwing the open Brandon Ayuk, throwing to an

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Speaker 2: did he do. He threw one of the worst picks

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Speaker 2: of the NFL season, then his defense got to stop.

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Speaker 2: He got the ball back and he threw another one.

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Speaker 2: And the drive before that, the reason they were punting

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Speaker 2: and gave it away again. So what more, what did

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Speaker 2: I want to see from Brock Purdy? How he would

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's that good. Well, I don't

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Speaker 2: know what what what is the job? Is the job

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Speaker 2: use data points? Such as Jimmy Garoppolo had similar levels

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Speaker 2: What is the What is the job? And it was

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Speaker 2: Genosi more than brock Party, the responses to that are

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Speaker 2: How can you take him seriously? I trust you know

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the and god, I have I have such

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Speaker 4: Cousins was kind of dealing too.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna talk about that as well. We're gonna

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Speaker 4: I've got something I tell you guys. Oh wait, I'm

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Speaker 2: Well, so here's the thing. Here's the thing in a

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Speaker 2: a there is an intriguing brock Purty Kirk Cousins question

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Speaker 2: to the kirk Cousins side of things, he was brilliant

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Speaker 2: Demonsey No Justin Jefferson against an excellent defense. And I

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Speaker 2: I thought he was excellent.

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Speaker 2: Because they weren't getting pressure, correct, and it's not because

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Speaker 2: I thought Cousins was excellent, and to do that with

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Speaker 2: Philly deserves to be considered the best team in the NFC.

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Speaker 3: All right, man, the Chiefs took care of business and

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Speaker 3: When has that ever gone wrong? So is your fear

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Speaker 2: No, because that's coming. Listen. They're gonna beat the Broncos

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 3: do it. Don't ban this play. If everybody could do it,

434
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: everybody would do it. Then he goes, where's the camera at? Yeah,

435
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 3: some parlays just broke there. Some players broke their sport,

436
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 3: like Kareem Skyhook. You got steps three and brady sneak?

437
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: Is this cheating or have the.

438
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 4: Eagles just found a cheek code and broke in the NFL?

439
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 2: So it's not cheating at all, But it's going to

440
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 2: go away like it's just so so there was there

441
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: was no way to legislate out Kareem Skyhook. There is

442
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 2: the people have talked by the way about since the

443
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 2: proliferation of the three of if the NBA needs to

444
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 2: tweak some things to make it less reliant on the three,

445
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: but it would take such an overhaul. Brady's sneak was

446
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: different than this because, while just as successful on fourth

447
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 2: and less than one, it also looked like every sneak

448
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 2: we've ever seen regularly. The NFL has two kind of

449
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 2: silver bullets here. One is they already have rules against

450
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: pulling offensive players, so it is not a far stretch

451
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: to tweak the rule to put back in what once

452
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: was and about pushing offensive players. The other one is

453
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 2: the NFL will put it under the banner of player

454
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 2: safety and say we you know what I mean, that

455
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: we need to get rid of this play. But as

456
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: I told you guys a month ago when everyone got

457
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 2: mad at me, the reason the NFL will ban this

458
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 2: is because the place sucks. It's not exciting. It takes

459
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,719
Speaker 2: all suspense out. It's an ugly play. That's it. The

460
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: NFL changes rules all the time to make things a

461
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: better television product. This is not good for TV. And

462
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: I listen, I have come around in this regard. I

463
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: do think Philly gets more credit given the fact that

464
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: everyone else sucks at it. It does make it seem

465
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Speaker 2: like there is more. It is more about their personnel

466
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Speaker 2: and their practicing. I totally agree with that. It doesn't

467
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: change the fact that the NFL is going to, I

468
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:12,239
Speaker 2: believe this offseason get rid of it. And here is

469
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Speaker 2: the other piece of it that I have said before

470
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Speaker 2: and I will say again that I don't understand why

471
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: there has not been more. Once we saw Philly in

472
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: a game they're up seven on fourth and more than

473
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: one on their own twenty nine in the fourth quarter,

474
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: confidently go for this, and Sirianni's right. It is first

475
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: and nine for them. And if you're playing them on

476
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: third downs, you can't play the sticks. You've got to

477
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: play two yards short of the sticks, because if you

478
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 2: get them to fourth in less than two they're just

479
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: going to go for this and they're going to get it.

480
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: But the point that I have tried to hammer that

481
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: I think Philly knows, and I think because they don't

482
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: want it banned, they are not attempting this. But I

483
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: wonder if they could right now, Philly can basically with

484
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: one hundred percent success get one yard and with close

485
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: to one hundred percent success get two yards. If they

486
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: were to become able to get three yards on this play,

487
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: it puts the NFL in a spot where they would

488
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Speaker 2: maybe ban it mid season if Philly could get three

489
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: right now, they get like one and a half. If

490
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: they could get three yards on this play and you're

491
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: down four to the Eagles with eight and a half

492
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Speaker 2: left in the fourth quarter, and they just run the

493
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Speaker 2: tush push to until the clock expires, which is all

494
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Speaker 2: you would add. Once they can get three yards, then

495
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: it's just game over. You get you do it on

496
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: first down, second down, third down, fourth down, new set

497
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: of downs you wouldn't want to get seventeen yards. You

498
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: just want to do it and be able to run

499
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: the clock out north of the six minute mark. Then

500
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: it irrevocably changes football in a way that you can

501
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: argue is you know what I mean, Philly's earned it,

502
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: whatever it is. I'm not trying to have that argument,

503
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: but it would be terrible for the sport, just terrible.

504
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: Philly fans would like it. Kind of Philly fans would

505
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: like it the way you you like it. If your

506
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: team is doing hack a shack in an NBA game,

507
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,479
Speaker 2: You're like, Okay, I guess it's you know, make your

508
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: free throws. But it's not exactly fun. And so the

509
00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: fact that Philly is not too good at it is

510
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: right now working in their advantage. But the NFL can't

511
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: leave open to chance that this offseason they master it

512
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: and it becomes the majority of their second half playbook.

513
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: It's like, well, we can get three yards on it,

514
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: I said, just running out the clock. If you could

515
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: get three yards on this, and we're not that far

516
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: from it, you could run it the entire game. If

517
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: you can get three yards on it, you could run

518
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: it the entire game.

519
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Yeah, I don't think the Eagles are going

520
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: to do that. They know that that's ugly. I think

521
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 3: they did it four times this game. That's once a quarter.

522
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: I can't see them just like spamming it like they

523
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 3: know at the end of that nobody's trying to see

524
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: all that.

525
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: Come on, now, let me but right, I agree, But

526
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: let me ask you a question. If they're if they've

527
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: the the fact that that possibility exists, is why the

528
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: NFL is going to get rid of it. Like Philly

529
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: fans got so mad at me about this, I am not.

530
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: Even from my own perspective. I think it's bad for

531
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: the sport because it's an entertainment product and it's not entertaining.

532
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,239
Speaker 2: I would so, but set take take my opinion out

533
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: of it. Non opinion, just prediction. My prediction is the

534
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: Eagles have ten games plus the playoffs left of this

535
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: play being available to them, and maybe, you know, hopefully

536
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: for them, they make the most out of it. All right, next, this.

537
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 3: Guy's gonna be praying for a Mahomes Tush push in

538
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 3: a couple of years. I feel like it's still gonna

539
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 3: be going on. You're gonna be like this.

540
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 4: Rule this place. It's bad for the sport, it's really ugly.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like there and there's an element of like,

542
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. I compared it to seventy

543
00:33:55,320 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: five years ago of baseball owner Bill Veck hired a

544
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: little person I think he was two feet eleven inches

545
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 2: tall to play on his baseball team, and he went

546
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: and did he had him pinch hit. The guy had

547
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: no strike zone, so he immediately got walked and then

548
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: he put in a pinch runner. And you know, whatever

549
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: it is, Baseball changed the rule like that week like

550
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: and so there are certain things that you can say, oh,

551
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: well that's you know why, it's only it's one teams

552
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 2: figured it out, but it's just bad for the sport,

553
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 2: all right, next, go ahead.

554
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 4: All right, man.

555
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: So my guy, Lamar Jackson definitely embarrassed Detroit. You've been

556
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 3: having this team of the Week thing going on. I'm

557
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 3: pretty sure Detroit was the team of the week and

558
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 3: it's all been falling in line. They beat them, Lamar

559
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 3: obviously looked phenomenal. Is Baltimore the real deal or are they

560
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 3: just the next team to beat? Do you think they're

561
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 3: bound for an upset?

562
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, listen, they're playing at the Cardinals. So

563
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: I don't you know that would be a horrific loss,

564
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 2: right They then they Seattle Cleveland Cincinnati in the next

565
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: three weeks. Then you know what I mean, all in Baltimore.

566
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: By the way, those should be three good games. Uh.

567
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: I think I missed on the Ravens this year. I

568
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: think I missed on it. Lamar looks you listen, I'll

569
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 2: give you credit, Lamar, Lamar looks great.

570
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 4: Looks great, great. He looked really good, man. His decision making.

571
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 3: I think there was a bunch of times where he

572
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 3: it looked like he was about to runoff.

573
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 4: It looked like he was about to get sacked, and he.

574
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 3: Played around in the pocket a little bit longer, and

575
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 3: he did the dink and dunk passes that you say

576
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: that he's kind of like been very missy on. He

577
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: was hitting the short ones, he was hitting the long,

578
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 3: extended played ones. He looked really good, man, He looked

579
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 3: really good.

580
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Speaker 2: That first point you made, Demanse is exactly what jumped

581
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: out to me as well, which was there were at

582
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 2: least three times in this game where in the past

583
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: he would have taken off running and instead he kind

584
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: of just stayed not necessarily in the pocket, but behind

585
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage with his eyes downfield, and then

586
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: either made One time he made a deep pass to

587
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: the end zone. One time it was a little over

588
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 2: the top pass, I think, or maybe I'm not sure. No, regardless,

589
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: uh he there. You know, the RPO is the run

590
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: pass option, and he's been a lot more r than

591
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: P in his history on those plays. This week he

592
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,959
Speaker 2: was key. And No, the Ravens are scary right now.

593
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: And the defense, despite the injuries, is allowing fourteen points

594
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 2: per game that you appears you nailed that one and

595
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 2: he and listen, I'm not gonna all of a sudden

596
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: act like I don't think the Lions are good. The

597
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: Lions are good, and the Lions defense had been playing

598
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: well this year and Lamar cut them up, and the

599
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 2: Lions offenses golf hadn't had a terrible game in a year,

600
00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: and he was bad. Like, No, the Ravens are legit,

601
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 2: they gotta stay healthy, but they're a scary team.

602
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 3: Just so everybody knows that Lamar and the Ravens that's

603
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 3: my team. I know I've been advocating very heavy for

604
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 3: the Niners and Party, but that's just because I'm all

605
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 3: for a good story.

606
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 4: My heart.

607
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: That is Demanse's team. That was Demande's Madden team, that

608
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: was his team in the offseason that he announced. No, no, no,

609
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 2: the Ravens are Demanse's team. That is true.

610
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 4: You can have too.

611
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, So how stupid does it seem that these teams

612
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 3: wouldn't trade to first? For Lamar and the Lions, the Falcons,

613
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 3: the Colts, the Patriots, Jets, Panthers, Commanders.

614
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 2: I would say they wouldn't trade to first. Demonse is

615
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: that they proactively like release statements like we're not interested,

616
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 2: we don't want to be involved. It's crazy.

617
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 4: It is crazy.

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00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 2: How that looks right now is crazy. Even if people think, well,

619
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: the Ravens would have matched and you wouldn't have gotten him, Okay,

620
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 2: so be it. At least then you tried, like the

621
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 2: could the Patriots right now be five and two instead

622
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 2: of two and five if Lamar was there instead of

623
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Speaker 2: mac Jones, of course they could. All right, take quick

624
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: break reminder, you guys can ask questions in the chat.

625
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: We'll get to them, do a little NBA preview, and

626
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 2: then get to your questions. All that to next Well,

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Speaker 2: All Right, believe it or not, the NBA season starts tonight.

637
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Speaker 2: It doesn't really feel like it, but it does. Demand's

638
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: let's talk a little NBA here. This show is gonna

639
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: stay mostly football until February, but we can do a

640
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 2: little NBA season preview here.

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00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 3: Go ahead, all right, let's talk a little Dylan Brooks

642
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 3: so NBA season. The NBA season tips off tonight, and

643
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: the raining champs are facing the Lakers.

644
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 4: Lebron and the Lakers to be specific.

645
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 3: Now, Denver has been talking a lot of trash ever

646
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Speaker 3: since the sweep Los Angeles Lockings for revenge, What do

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Speaker 3: you expect out of the new look Lakers on ring

648
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Speaker 3: night in Denver.

649
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: I want to see Austin Reeves.

650
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 5: Look.

651
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 2: I want to see how Austin Reeves looks the you know,

652
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: is Austin Reeves going to transition from really good story

653
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: to legit third option? If he does, the Lakers are right.

654
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: They are a cut below Milwaukee, Boston, Denver, but a

655
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: cut above everybody else. And that just means you need

656
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: Denver to falter a little bit. And so I, oh,

657
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: this game tonight, obviously, I think has more of an

658
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: emotional heft for the Lakers than it does for the Nuggets.

659
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: And there is an element of the I go back

660
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: to those Western Armburence finals and Jokic was unbelievable, but

661
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 2: Jokic was believably unbelievable, Like Jokic's numbers were not shocking

662
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 2: by Jokic standard, which speaks to, you know, you know,

663
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 2: what a great player he's become. The player who played

664
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: outside of his mind was Jamal Murray. Jamal Murray, just

665
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: for the record in in the Western Armours finals was

666
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: thirty three, six and five on fifty two forty ninety five.

667
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: Splits Just a little context there that is more points

668
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: per game in a conference finals than Michael Jordan ever averaged,

669
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 2: then Kobe Bryant ever averaged. Then I think it's everyone

670
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 2: other than Amari Stodemeyer and Lebron James and there's one

671
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: other guy I can't remember are the only people to

672
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: ever at Maybe that might be right. Actually I'd have

673
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 2: to look, but that might be right to ever average

674
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 2: in conference finals. The reason I say that is everyone's like, oh,

675
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 2: what's the Lakers answer for Jokic? They in order to

676
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: have made those conference finals more competitive, they didn't need

677
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: a different answer for Jokic. They needed Jamal Murray not

678
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: to turn into prime Dwayne Wade, which is what he

679
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: was in that series. And Jamal Murray's an excellent player,

680
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 2: but he had literally one of the greatest conference finals ever.

681
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 2: And so that's what I So, I'm intrigued to watch

682
00:41:54,480 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 2: that the Nuggets are mostly the same team. The Lakers

683
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: are not the same, but they have, you know, some

684
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 2: tweaks around the edges, and that you know, Lebron takes

685
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: the court tonight. It's not only year twenty one, which

686
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: only six other guys have ever gotten to, but now

687
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: that Iguidala has retired, demon's he's the oldest player in league.

688
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: In the league, Lebron is literally not like the oldest

689
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 2: guy who plays a lot. No, he's the oldest player

690
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 2: in the league. And the fact that the expectations are

691
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 2: still that, yeah, he's around, you know, a top ten player.

692
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,479
Speaker 2: There's no context for that. There's no The best year

693
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: twenty one season ever is like seven points a game,

694
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: and people expect Lebron to average twenty seven. So I'm

695
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: excited to watch all of that.

696
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 3: So go ahead, I've got a little stat and you're

697
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 3: saying you're excited for the opener.

698
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 4: So the Lakers haven't won an opener since twenty sixteen.

699
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 3: That was versus Houston. They haven't won an open on

700
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 3: the road since two thousand and five, and that was

701
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 3: also an overtime win against Detroit.

702
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh five. That would mean the defending champion Pistons,

703
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 2: And that would also be the without Shack. That would

704
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 2: be the Lakers right after they had traded Shack to

705
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 2: the Miami Heat. Because the four Pistons beat the Do

706
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: I have that right?

707
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 4: Yeah?

708
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 2: The four Pistons beat the four Lakers and five in

709
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: the finals. Then Shaq and Kobe officially broke up. I

710
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: don't really care about the opener stats. I mean, I

711
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: appreciate you giving them to me, but that's not like

712
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: this is to me a different spot And I am curious,

713
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: like you know, I Jokics doesn't seem like the type

714
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: of guy who gets like extra motivated by stuff. And Jokics,

715
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: to his credit, didn't talk any trash. It was all

716
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 2: Mike Malone in tertiary pieces that we're talking trash. I'm

717
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,959
Speaker 2: excited to see it, all right, next.

718
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 3: All right, so we talked about opening night, Let's talk

719
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 3: about the season. The Suns obviously built a super team.

720
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 3: Is this Kevin Durant's fourth or fifth super team?

721
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 4: Do we not count?

722
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 3: Okay, see because it was like natural, but the Sons

723
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 3: obviously built a super team. Dame is playing with a

724
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 3: freshly paid Giannis, and Wimby's finally in the league, and

725
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 3: sure Lebron's going on number twenty year twenty one with.

726
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 4: Another super team. It's probably his third super team. What's

727
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 4: the number one thing?

728
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: How are the Lakers a super team?

729
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 4: I might have right there.

730
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 3: They've they've got a the what's the number one thing

731
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 3: that you're excited to track?

732
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 4: This NBA season.

733
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: I know it's got to say. I mean, I'm pretty listen.

734
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 2: I have been the pump the breaks on Wimby Guy.

735
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: The preseason got me pretty excited for him. I mean,

736
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: it does look the I I still believe the offense

737
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 2: is going to be a major work in progress. But defensively,

738
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: I don't even know what the ceiling is. I just

739
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, it just seems impossible some of

740
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: the stuff that he's able to do. So I'm super

741
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: excited to watch that. I don't know if you saw it.

742
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: People got very mad at me last week. The internet

743
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 2: hated this opinion speaking of Boston Reeves when I said,

744
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: we were talking Suns versus Lakers because Bleacher Report did

745
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: a best duos in the league and they had Katie

746
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 2: and Booker ahead of Lebron an ad and I said,

747
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 2: I flatly think that's wrong. I think Lebron is still

748
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: better than Durant and you the argument against Lebron versus

749
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: certain guys is, yeah, okay, he's better, but he misses

750
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: twenty five games a year. But you can't use that

751
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: argument in a Durant discussion. Lebron has been healthier than Durant.

752
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: You know, over the last three years ever since Durant

753
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 2: blew his achilles. Even if you remove that season, Lebron

754
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: has played more games, they score the same amount, and

755
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: Lebron is to me just better over player. And so

756
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: I said, I thought ad was better than Booker. I

757
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 2: think Lebron is at the very least dead even with Durant.

758
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: So I thought they were the better duo. And then

759
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 2: Wilde said, okay, we'll find somebody said, I don't know,

760
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: it's wild to brew I want to misquote him. Yeah,

761
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 2: but then the Suns have the better trio because Bradley

762
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: Beal versus Austin Reeves. And the Internet killed me for this,

763
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: I said, And I said, I disagree with that. I said,

764
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: I would rather have Austin Reeves as my third option. Now,

765
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: there is a very specific point I'm trying to make here,

766
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: which is I think Bradley Beal. If you were like, hey,

767
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: one of these guys has to be the best player

768
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 2: on your team, obviously you'd rather have Bradley Beal. If

769
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 2: your team's best player is Austin Reeves, you're in real trouble.

770
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: But if one of if the question is, one of

771
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: these guys has to be the clear cut number three

772
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: on your team. I have more faith and reason to

773
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 2: believe that Austin Reeves can play that role at a

774
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: high level than Bradley Beal, who's never even been the

775
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 2: number two option on a team. He was the leading

776
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: scorer in the NBA, and I now I I'll also

777
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 2: say this that people disagreed with. I think both the

778
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: Lakers and the Suns would be better if Beal and

779
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: Reeves switch places. I think if Reeves were on the

780
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: Suns and if Beal were on the Lakers, both teams

781
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 2: be better. I think Beal adds things to the Lakers

782
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 2: shooting that they need, and I think Reeves adds things

783
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 2: to the Suns being able to contribute without having the

784
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: ball in your hands. And just you know, no, no,

785
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 2: not humbleness. It's not that. I just I think there

786
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 2: are like, let me put it like this, here's a

787
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 2: different way to look at it. Take Austin Reeves and

788
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: the Lakers out of it. Would the Denver Nuggets last

789
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: year have been better off with Bradley Beal or Aaron Gordon?

790
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: The answer is obviously Aaron Gordon. Is Bradley Beal better

791
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 2: than Aaron Gordon? Sure? But as far as being the

792
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: third option guy doing different things, Aaron Gordon was perfect

793
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 2: for that team. Now, with all that said, Bradley Beal's

794
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 2: already out for tonight with a back injury. So a

795
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: Sun team that is you know, health is a major

796
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 2: question mark, in depth is a major question mark. Already

797
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 2: isn't gonna have their full complimented guys. Uh But if Pool.

798
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 3: Goes and averages forty points this season, this is I

799
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 3: know this isn't going off on a tangent here, But

800
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 3: if he goes off and average is like, all right,

801
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 3: not call it forty thirty to thirty five points? Do

802
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: you think any Do you think success from Pool this

803
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 3: season gets the guy fired that made the trade? I

804
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 3: just think I really want that trade to end up

805
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 3: looking really stupid.

806
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 4: I got a lot of sweat.

807
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: In Then, in what universe can Jordan Poole average thirty

808
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: to thirty five.

809
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 4: Points in this one?

810
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 2: What do you mean that doesn't exist? The guy can't

811
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: average thirty to thirty five said, he's on the Wizards.

812
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: He's not averaging thirty plus Jordan Poole.

813
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 3: No, that's what That's what I'll be tracking is the

814
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: usage of Chris Paul over in the in the Warriors,

815
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 3: and what Jordan Poole does over there in Washington.

816
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 4: Traded up, Jordan pulls in.

817
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: Jordan Pool's in a perfect spot. He can put up

818
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: empty numbers on a bad team. I get that, but

819
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 2: he's still not gonna average thirty plus. I mean, give

820
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: me a break. I mean, he's the He's not. I mean,

821
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 2: I don't even know what to do that. That take

822
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: took me by storm. The now here is the The

823
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 2: other most interesting storyline right now in the NBA is

824
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 2: obviously what's gonna happen in Philly. People have written off

825
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 2: the Miami Heat, maybe a touch prematurely because they didn't

826
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: get Dame. And then do the Warriors have one last

827
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 2: running them? Which I'm fascinated by. I know you said

828
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 2: they traded Jordan Poole for a fossil. I don't even

829
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 2: know if Chris Paul is gonna be on that team

830
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: all year? But do they have one more running them?

831
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: And then one last thing in the West? Like who

832
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: who is? Who? Do we know is gonna be bad

833
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 2: in the West? Okay, I'll start Portland. After that, the

834
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 2: Spurs will be bad but fun to watch, and the

835
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: Rockets will be bad. Every other team is trying to win.

836
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 2: Maybe the Jazz will be bad. But take those four

837
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: teams out. Here are the other teams, the Pelicans, the MAVs,

838
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: the Nuggets, the Warriors, the Clippers, the Lakers, the Timberwolves,

839
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: the Suns, the Kings, the thunder the Grizzlies. Okay, so

840
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 2: that's eleven teams. One of them won't even make the

841
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 2: playing three of them won't make the playoffs. The Grizzlies

842
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 2: are an interesting one to watch with Steven Adams being

843
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: done for the year. I the Clippers are an interesting

844
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: one to watch given their health concerns, and the Pelicans,

845
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: given their health concerns, are an interesting one as well.

846
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 2: But there are gonna be some teams in the West

847
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: just devastatingly disappointed on how this season goes.

848
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 3: All right, next, All right, it's time for a game

849
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 3: we haven't played in a while, Public defender, the time

850
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 3: has come.

851
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 4: Bring back what's right? No, no, no uh. The first off,

852
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 4: we're gonna start off with you encouraging me to bet

853
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 4: the Bills last week. I think you encouraged me so much.

854
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 3: That that team wasn't even in my teaser, and you

855
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 3: had me take a team out and put them in

856
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 3: because you were just that's correct.

857
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 2: I felt Patriots, you know what. I felt terribly about

858
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: that until I realized your teaser died because you didn't

859
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 2: like yeah, because you had the Lions plus thirteen. I

860
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 2: really felt sick about that. And then I looked back

861
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 2: at it, I'm like, oh, you screwed yourself before the

862
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: Bills even did it.

863
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 3: But go ahead, all right, so counselor defend your client

864
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 3: Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills for losing to the

865
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 3: famished Patriots.

866
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: All right, you know what I entered. This is one

867
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: of my favorite games. But in a day where we've

868
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: had Monday Night football and the Brock Party stuff in

869
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: an NBA season preview, and we're this late, I'm gonna

870
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 2: do a half hearted effort at some of these. I

871
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: have no defense of Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills.

872
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,919
Speaker 2: They are exactly what the actual Nick Wright said they were.

873
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: I'm not engaging on this. They are an up and

874
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 2: down team that is untrustworthy that under this iteration, missed

875
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: their window. Next.

876
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert is twenty seven and twenty eight as a

877
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 3: starting as a starting quarterback in the NFL he's able

878
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 3: to hide behind the incompetence of his coach. But Joe

879
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 3: Burrow overcame Zach Taylor, and Tom Brady overcame Bill Belichick.

880
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 3: This guy might just be the Philip Rivers were kids,

881
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 3: counselor defend your client.

882
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 4: Justin Herbert.

883
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so once again, I'm gonna recuse myself from this. Listen.

884
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: I said it before and it was one of the

885
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 2: best compliments Demons ever gave me when I just said

886
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 2: something and he just goes bar and I was like, oh,

887
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: he liked what I said. Justin Herbert is not the problem.

888
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: But he's paid to be the solution and he hasn't been.

889
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 2: And he's had back to back bad games right after

890
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 2: getting paid. And we listen, he is Justin Herbert is

891
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: a good to very good player. He should be better

892
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 2: by now. This is on the undeniable.

893
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 3: Some of the throws that I'm seeing that he's not

894
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 3: making has got nothing to do with coaching.

895
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: It's Justin Herbert, correct, That's correct. And listen, he's got

896
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: a rocket arm and under better circumstances, like you know,

897
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 2: maybe things are going differently for him. But it is

898
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: undeniable that up to this point he's been slightly disappointing

899
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 2: given how Grady looked as a rookie. I understand I'm

900
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: not really playing the public defender game right now, but

901
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 2: that's because we're short on time, so I can't even

902
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 2: really mentally fully get in character right now. But go ahead.

903
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

904
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 3: So we complain about the refs every year, but the

905
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 3: refs had a huge role in the Rams, Steelers and

906
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 3: Brown's cults and Eagles Dolphins finishes, not to mention how

907
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: every single call goes the way of the Kansas City Chiefs.

908
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 3: Counselor defend your client, NFL refs.

909
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 2: Listen, these are old guys. They're all I mean. Here

910
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 2: is what I will say. I'm glad folks are now recognizing.

911
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: It's like, oh wow, look at that every nationally televised

912
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: game has an egregious missed call, if not more than one.

913
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: It's not about the Chiefs always getting the benefit of

914
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: a the whistle. It's about the fact that the Chiefs,

915
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: because they're the Chiefs, are in standalone nationally televised games

916
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 2: more often than other teams, so it seems like it

917
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 2: disproportionately impacts them.

918
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 4: But every game so far, the Chiefs have come dude,

919
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 4: Like what you just said.

920
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 2: I know it's wild, I know it's an insane thing,

921
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 2: but it's true. Uh but every game that you watch

922
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 2: all the way through, you're like, oh, well that was terrible.

923
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 2: That was terrible. Like there's a right. The officiating in

924
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 2: the NFL this year has not been good. There's no

925
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 2: way around it. Just flat lee hasn't been good. And

926
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: then you wanted me to defend myself for betting the

927
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 2: Bears Raiders game. I'm not gonna do that. It was

928
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 2: one of the worst bets I've ever made in my life.

929
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 2: Quick break right back, answer your questions. What's right? All right, demanse,

930
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 2: Let's ask some questions her.

931
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 3: Go ahead, all right, Austin are asked, Nick, when are

932
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 3: we gonna hear your wife's take on Taylor Swift now

933
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 3: that she's inspiring Kelsey to play out of his mind?

934
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 2: Well, I got to ask her about that, and maybe

935
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: it's evolved. I'm not sure what I will say is

936
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 2: I think I so Wilds has the best take on this,

937
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: and Wilds hasn't said this on television yet, so I

938
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 2: just give him credit. I don't know if he's going

939
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: to and his take on this is that life is

940
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 2: high school, that all of your whole life is just

941
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 2: high school. And so what's happening here is Taylor Swift

942
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 2: in high school was the band kid, the music kid,

943
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 2: and and the idea of like dating the star football

944
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 2: player was like the coolest thing imagining. And now she can.

945
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 2: And she's wearing his letterman jacket, hanging out with the

946
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 2: other star player's girlfriend wife and brisng time and truly

947
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 2: having the time of her life. And I think this

948
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 2: is genuine man. She is genuinely excited during these games,

949
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 2: genuinely rooting for him, and you can tell there is

950
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 2: a great There is a great image from this weekend's

951
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: game when Mahomes throws to Kelsey in the end zone.

952
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 2: He doesn't catch it, but he gets the past interference

953
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 2: flag and there's Taylor Swift and Britney Mahomes side by

954
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 2: side in the box and Taylor jumps up, puts her

955
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 2: hands on her face and is like devastated, and Britney

956
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 2: is momentarily upset, sees the flag and then starts celebrating

957
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 2: and Taylor's confused, and it's like, oh, this is like

958
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 2: a learning football moment too. Like Britney, who by the

959
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: way another. As Wilde says, another example of this is

960
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 2: high school. Patrick Mahomes had a crush on this girl

961
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 2: as a ninth grader and it's just been madly in

962
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 2: love with her ever since. Just loves her. But she's

963
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 2: she's been watching football forever and she's like, oh, flag,

964
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: we got it. Taylor doesn't understand what's going on. I

965
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: think it's delightful. I like it. And people are like,

966
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 2: oh yeah. And the fact that Kelsey another thing that

967
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: was asked me yesterday, They're like, do you buy the

968
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 2: story that Kelsey bought a new house because of this,

969
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 2: like the relationship, because that was reported, like lightly reported,

970
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 2: and I'm like, totally seems plausible in this regard. People

971
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 2: don't understand Kan City. Kent City has like two gated

972
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 2: communities in the whole city. There's like two places you

973
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 2: can live where someone can't just like come knock on

974
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,959
Speaker 2: your door. My guess is I haven't been to Travis's house,

975
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 2: but my guess is Travis was living in a normal,

976
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 2: nice house in Kansas City, probably in the plaza somewhere

977
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 2: where just literally anybody can come ring up exactly right, correct,

978
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 2: And so I think it's like, man, like that, and

979
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 2: so I think that's probably what happened, all right.

980
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 4: Next, sorry, gronky mister chance.

981
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 3: TOC three K said, the brotherly shove is no different

982
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 3: than when the Bears used to snap it to the fridge.

983
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 3: Nick Perry was getting the yard, no question, Why would

984
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 3: the league ban the modern day version of that play.

985
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 3: It's a lot funner than a touch push dude.

986
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 2: Okay, so no, but that's also this is where people

987
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 2: I have TOC three K not your fault. I apologize,

988
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna go ahead and say, you don't know

989
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 2: what you're talking about. First of all, because the guy's

990
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 2: name was Richard Perry or William Perry. Richard Perry, Now

991
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm talking about. His name was

992
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 2: William Perry, first of all, not Nick Perry. So and

993
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to I'll check it in a moment, but

994
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess William the refrigerator Perry has fewer than

995
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 2: ten career rushing attempts and fewer than five career touchdowns.

996
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 2: The idea that the Bears in the eighties, who had

997
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 2: Walter Payton at running back, were regularly giving it to

998
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 2: their three hundred pound d tackle because it was funny.

999
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 2: Is just it is just not what the historical record is,

1000
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 2: and it certainly wasn't Nick Perry. All right, well who

1001
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: is Nick the So hold on, I.

1002
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 4: Think I've heard the name before.

1003
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 3: I think he's a musician, Nick Perry Blackers actually, now

1004
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 3: that I think about it.

1005
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 2: Now that you think about it, Okay, So here's William

1006
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 2: Perry's career numbers. All right. William Perry in his career

1007
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 2: has eight rushes for five yards and two touchdowns. So,

1008
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 2: first of all, decidedly did not always work. Second of all,

1009
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 2: they did it eight times ever five and one year.

1010
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 2: And then you add in the playoffs. He did it

1011
01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 2: once in the Super Bowl. So his entire career, William

1012
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 2: Perry had three touchdowns. So no, it's not quite the

1013
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 2: same as the tush push, which was done successfully more

1014
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: on Sunday Night than every carry of William Perry's career.

1015
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: Go ahead, producers.

1016
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 4: Producers asked.

1017
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 3: Joe Lacob said the Warriors should retire thirty five for KD.

1018
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 4: Do you agree?

1019
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 2: So just so you know it's lake ub Yeah, he won. Yes,

1020
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 2: he won two finals MVPs for you, and then came

1021
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 2: back early from an injury. Because you guys put a

1022
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 2: little pressure on him and uh and popped his achilles.

1023
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 2: So yeah, I do agree. I agree you should retire

1024
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: his jersey. He won two finals MVPs for you and

1025
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 2: was excellent for you for three seasons, So yeah, you

1026
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 2: retire his jersey. By the way, it's not a statue.

1027
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 2: Like the statue question is going to be an interesting

1028
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 2: question for the Warriors in this regard. Is it just

1029
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 2: Steph or do they give one to Steph play and Draymond?

1030
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 2: If they do that is Steve Kerr on the statue?

1031
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 2: Is it one giant statue? Do they all get their

1032
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 2: own in that? Like Iguidala to me is a retired jersey.

1033
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 2: He's a retired jersey, not a statue. That's in my opinion,

1034
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 2: that's Iggy. Obviously Steph is a statue. I feel like

1035
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 2: Clay and Dragon.

1036
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,919
Speaker 3: What I feel like if yeah, I feel like Kurr.

1037
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 3: I think it should be Steph, Clay, Kurr, Dre.

1038
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 2: I mean all their own statue or one giant one

1039
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 2: the four of them. I don't know. Gether that to

1040
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 2: me though, almost like if they they want to do

1041
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 2: that and then also a Stephan statue, So Steph gets

1042
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 2: too like Stephan needs some special treatment there. Yeah, but

1043
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 2: I'm also I'm a believer that you know, I think

1044
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 2: Lebron should have a statue in all three places. I

1045
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 2: the he obviously Cleveland. The Lakers have a lot of

1046
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 2: guys with statues. It's you know what I mean, they

1047
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 2: have a whole stat monument partner. No, I mean he

1048
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 2: wanted he brought they misplayoffs six raight years. He wins

1049
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 2: him a championship. He also broke Kareem's record in your jersey.

1050
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 2: He's played for the Lakers longer than he played for

1051
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 2: the Heat at this point. And obviously the Heat. What

1052
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 2: the the the the again, Like the coolest statue that

1053
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 2: they could make for the Heat would be a statue

1054
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 2: of the famous iconic Way. Yeah, but that to me

1055
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 2: would like be giving Wade a short shrift like you

1056
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 2: do that. Then he also still needs his own standalone statue,

1057
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 2: you know, because Way he's the greatest player in the

1058
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 2: history of the Miami Heat franchise because of what he

1059
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 2: did totality of his career. All right, really, good show,

1060
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: I gotta run. We don't have to answer any more questions.

1061
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 2: I'll see you guys on the herd. In about ninety minutes.

1062
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 2: See you on First things first at three o'clock. See

1063
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 2: if I unveil my purty cousin's take, we'll do it.

1064
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 2: We'll do it all later today. See you guys. What's

1065
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 2: right