1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan in this episode number two D 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: and to Dan the show. We're kicking off another year 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: of our radio mini series in which we chat with 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: hunters from all across the country each week to get 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: the latest intel on current deer activity and the tactics 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: that are working. Right now, all right, welcome to the 10 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: Wired Hunt Podcast, brought to you by on X, and 11 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: this is our first episode of two thousand nineteen of 12 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: our RUT Radio series. But we're actually calling out something 13 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: slightly different this year. We're calling rut Fresh Radio. But 14 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: it is the exact same things that you've heard over 15 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: the last three seasons. We're calling this rout Fresh Radio. 16 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: I will give you a very quick behind the scenes 17 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: explanation here because our buddy Spencer new Hearth. While you, Spencer, 18 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: you started something called RUT Fresh I think last year, 19 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: right a blog in which you were sharing written RUT 20 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: reports that kind of went along with the same kinds 21 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: of things we were talking about on RUT radio. And 22 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: when you joined the Mediator team, which happened when last 23 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: year earlier this year October. Okay, so when you joined, 24 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: we decided, hey, we should keep ret Fresh Reports going, 25 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: but we're of course and keep rut Radio going. And 26 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: it could get kind of confusing if we had the 27 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: two same things but with slightly different names. We decided 28 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: to combine the names. So there's going to be the 29 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: same RUT Radio mini series that we do here in 30 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: the podcast. We're just gonna call rut Fresh Radio, and 31 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: then you're gonna have rut Fresh written reports on the 32 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: mediair website to right, That's right. Those are going to 33 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: start in October, okay, sweet. So for those that aren't 34 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: familiar with what we do here on this series, this 35 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: is going to be a series that we are running 36 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: in addition to the regular wire Dump podcast each week, 37 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: and it's going to run from this week all the 38 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: way to the end of the two thousand nine hunting season. 39 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: Give me the cliff notes on what folks can expect, Spencer. 40 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: This is the fourth season of doing this mini podcast. 41 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: These episodes are going to come out every single Wednesday, 42 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: and every week I'm going to talk to some highly 43 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: respected white tail hunters from across the country and get 44 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: the latest reports from what they're seeing, what the buck 45 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: activity has been like, uh, if the moon face has 46 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: changed anything, if the weather pattern to mess stuff up, 47 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: what those food sources look like in their area, if 48 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: the bachelor groups are still together, if calling works right now, 49 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: if signmaking has started, all of that stuff. And so 50 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 1: we get a breakdown of what they've been seeing in 51 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: the past few days, and then also prediction on what 52 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: they expect to come in the coming days. Right, that's right, 53 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: And the idea of this podcast is to give you 54 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: the freshest intel possible. Good at give you guys a 55 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: peep behind the curtain here. But we are recording this 56 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: on a Tuesday in this episode will drop Wednesday morning, 57 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: so the reports that you're hearing are less than twenty 58 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: four hours old, and hopefully if you are somebody who 59 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: is a weekend warrior hunter, this will give you some 60 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: ideas of what to do in the upcoming weekend. You're 61 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: gonna hear some great reports on here from hopefully somebody 62 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: in your neck of the woods, and maybe they'll say 63 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: something that you pick up on um and it helps 64 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: you make an informed decision for an upcoming hunt. That 65 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: happens to me almost every week prior to a hunt. 66 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm using this intel hopefully just like you guys are, 67 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: and it's really helped me in a lot of cases 68 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: in the past. Yeah, I'll say another thing that we've 69 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: both kind of spoken to over the last couple of years, 70 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 1: we've started seeing not only there's is there value in 71 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: these the very recent intel part of it, but then 72 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: also what I've started to do is I will go 73 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: back and listen to the prior year or previous couple 74 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: of years during the same date range, and then you 75 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: can start to pick up on certain trends. So, for example, 76 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: this is the first week of September, we're gonna hear 77 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: from people that are hunting, you know, right now. But 78 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: if we went and listened to last year's episode from 79 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: the first week of September, we might find certain things 80 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: to talk about that might relate to this year as well. 81 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: Maybe last year's episode someone said, hey, we got a 82 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: cold front. Then September five, it got dear moving like crazy. 83 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: And if you have it to be hunting this week 84 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: on September five or eighth or whatever, and you have 85 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: a coal front coming, you can say, hey, that worked 86 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: for Tony back then, I bet you that might help 87 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: me this year. So listen to this week's episode, but 88 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: if you've got extra time, you might want to go 89 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: back and listen to one of the three previous seasons 90 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: during the same date range, and you can find other 91 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: things that could help you too, right, haven't you seen 92 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: that as well, Spencer, Yeah, definitely, And I can already 93 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: see one way that is going to be quite different, 94 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: um is how the summer weather is now affecting these 95 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: really early season haunts. For example, most of the country 96 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: had a very wet spring and summer. I know specifically 97 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: in the Great Plains it was that way. But then 98 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: I also learned through this week's interviews that some of 99 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: these other places dealt with the same thing, and it 100 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: really changed some early season tactics. Tony Peterson is a 101 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: guy that if you've listened to Wire to Hunt before 102 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: or read anything he's written, or you know, checked out 103 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: his podcast, you'll know that early season he loves to 104 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: focus on watering holes. It's a great place to pattern 105 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: a book, and it's a great place to avoid people 106 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: because everyone else kind of likes those safe field edge setups. 107 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: And this year Tony was hunting in Nebraska who we 108 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: will hear from later um, And he said there was 109 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: so much water available and everything was so wet that 110 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: that plan just went out the window and he had to, 111 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: you know, change up what he was doing because those 112 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: water hole setups were not gonna work. And it was 113 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: the same thing from the guys we talked to in Tennessee, 114 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: South Carolina and in North Dakota. Yeah, so who else 115 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: are we hearing from? We start off in Tennessee with 116 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: Jacob Myers from The Southern Outdoorsman. Then in Nebraska we 117 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: talked to Tony Peterson from the Hunt for Real podcast. 118 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: In South Carolina from Cut four Outdoors is Cameron Busby, 119 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: and then in North Dakota Dylan Lens from the Breaking 120 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: Point TV. There was a ton of success from this 121 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: year's group of guys. On the first episode, Jacob Myers 122 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: in Tennessee they killed two bucks. Uh, Tony de Brat, 123 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: Tony Peterson from Nebraska, he's already on his way home 124 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: back Minnesota because him and his body both tagged out. 125 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: And then Dylan Lens in North Dakota from the Breaking 126 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: Point they killed one on opener as well. Nice awesome, Well, 127 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: I am our chronological or is gonna be a little 128 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: bit wonky here because I am in North Dakota on 129 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 1: my own North Dakota hunt. But the Regular Wire podcast 130 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: that comes out tomorrow was recorded before that hunt, so 131 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 1: I don't want to give too much away yet. Um. 132 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: The very light report is that I saw a decent 133 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: amount of activity just prior to opening day, and on 134 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: opening day there was a pretty decent amount of movement, 135 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: but it slowed down significantly after that, possibly hunting pressure 136 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: related or possibly because it got super hot. Um. That 137 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: is my very light activity report from North Dakota. Can 138 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: I Can I just leave it at that? Well, let 139 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: me know one thing, are you dealing with the same 140 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: thing as everyone else? That everything is wet and there's 141 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: plenty of water That that is not a focal point 142 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: of your early season Sits definitely not a focal point 143 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: of my sets here. Um, not so much because like 144 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: I was going to keen on water holes anyways, but 145 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: there's there's there's a river right through this area that's 146 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: providing water everywhere. Um, So that just wasn't going to 147 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: be a factor from the get go. Um, but I 148 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: can say that definitely stuff is lushed that I will 149 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: say there's there's food everywhere, seemingly a lot of green vegetation, 150 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: and that has led to deer activity being very spread out. 151 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem if there's one food source that they're 152 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: keying in on. Um. There's so much natural brows that 153 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: the activity has just been kind of willy nilly um. 154 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: And maybe that had to do with it being such 155 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: a such a relatively wet summer out here compared to 156 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: other years. All right, Mark, well, I think we get 157 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: to these first colors um. And one more thing I 158 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: don't think that we spoke to was that these podcast 159 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: episodes are always going to be short. So these episodes 160 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: are gonna be around thirty minutes, super digestible. Hopefully you 161 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: can kill it on your way to work in the 162 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: morning and then that puts you in a white tail 163 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: hunting mood. Yes, and I will I will add, though, 164 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: as I sometimes do, I will drag these things longer 165 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: because I'm a rambler. So I gotta give one more 166 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: update Spencer Um. Sort of in tandem with these podcast episodes, 167 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: we also released a new video series over on the 168 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: Mediator that describes how to kill a buck during different 169 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: portions in the hunting season, and it was you, myself 170 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: and Tony Peterson. We got together and we broke down 171 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: each month into a first half in the second half, 172 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: and then discussed what our ideas would be, what our mindset, 173 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: what our tactics would be during each one of those 174 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: segments of the year. So, for example, the video that's 175 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: already come out, how to Kill a Buck September, we 176 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: went and we each shared a couple of the high 177 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: level ideas we'd be thinking about in early September one hunting, 178 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: and then we picked an example property and we dissect 179 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: that property. We look at an aerial view of the property, 180 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: all three of us and walk through where we would 181 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: consider hunting, how we would consider hunting it, each one 182 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: of us kind of sharing our own perspectives, and then 183 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: one of us actually had hunted that property, and then 184 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: that would be the last person to go. And then 185 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: we'd say, hey, you were right about this or I 186 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: saw this was very similar to what you guys are 187 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: guessing um and I think those turned out pretty interesting 188 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: and very helpful. So the first one is available on 189 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: the Meat Eater YouTube channel right now. We will have 190 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: new episodes coming every other week, right that's right, and 191 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: we are bring kicking down a variety of different properties 192 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: in these videos, public and private, from Pennsylvania to Oklahoma, 193 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: to Wisconsin, to Kentucky to Ohio and everything in between. 194 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: So hopefully if episode one talking early September and a 195 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: property in Kentucky doesn't apply to you, that one of 196 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: these next ones will. Yeah, we we We can't cover 197 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: every single region every single time, but you can definitely 198 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: still pull pieces and parts that can apply to your 199 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: own specific situation. So with that said, Spencer, uh, should 200 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: I shut it down and let you take it for 201 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: the interviews? Yeah? Good luck in North Dakota, and I 202 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: hope you're sending me a BBD tax very soon. Thanks man, 203 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: I hope so too. 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On a scale 218 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: of one to ten, I'd say since the Velvet buck 219 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: hunt on the twenty three, it's been probably close to 220 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: seven or eight right now, So the deer have definitely 221 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: been feeding quite a bit in the afternoon. Uh. You know, 222 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: they're still you know, kind of grouped up, so you'll 223 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: be able to go out anywhere you have eggs, especially 224 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: any kind of beans right now. Uh. You just being 225 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: able to see deer quite easily, especially if you have 226 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: advantage point where you can glass from. You're seeing deer 227 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: moving throughout the day. I know on that Velvet hunt 228 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: on when we were able to kill our deer, we 229 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: were seeing deer moving as early as four o'clock in 230 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: the afternoon, Bucks, Jacob. In most of the country and 231 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: early early openers like September one, But you guys are 232 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: hunting like seven eight nine days. And how does that 233 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: Tennessee early velvet season change from how you'd maybe be 234 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: hunting right now. Yeah, Actually I have not had previous 235 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: experience hunting that early. Uh. So Tennessee puts on a 236 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: where they classifyed they market it as a velvet buck 237 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: hunt for the whole state. It's open to private land 238 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: for the whole state. Uh. And this year it was August. 239 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: But last year they found c w D in the 240 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: western part of the state and actually made a c 241 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: w D zone and for that hunt. This year, in 242 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: that c w D zone, it was open on thirteen 243 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: pieces of publicly and track in that part of the 244 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: state in that zone, so we were able to hunt 245 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: one of those parcels of public Also, they opened it 246 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: for muzzleloader, which made it a really fun time to 247 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: go hunt. Uh. It really did change our thoughts on 248 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: hunting because we're going from you know, trying to focus 249 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: on you know, what we would think is later season 250 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: food story is down there. Uh, kind of getting away 251 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: from the egg trying to find for simmons and different oaks, UH, 252 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: to focusing strictly on agg especially soybeans. And it paid 253 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: off very quickly. We're able to shoot two deer within 254 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: twenty four hours of the hunt, and unfortunately, it wasn't 255 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: able to locate my dear because I made a non 256 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: lethal shot on that deer. But it's it's been fantastic. 257 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: It is this very different when you don't have experience 258 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: hunting that early in the season. Did you guys focus 259 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: on water at all? Hunting that early when I assumed 260 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: the weather was really hot, Actually we did not. So 261 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: this whole summer, we've had a pretty good amount of 262 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: rain in Tennessee, really the whole southeast, but over the 263 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: last month or so it's dried up just a little bit. 264 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: But where we were hunting, you know, you were still 265 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: finding you know, water pockets, you know, whether it was 266 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: you know, some puddles, a little bit of running water, 267 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: whatever it was. So you know, water wasn't a major 268 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: source of you know, finding and locating deer on that 269 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 1: hunt or really anytime recently late this summer, some parts 270 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: of Kentucky and Tennessee have been experiencing the h D. 271 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: Is that something that you've dealt with in in your 272 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: part of Tennessee, not necessarily in my part, but guess 273 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: there has been a few outbreaks. One County in UH 274 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: in general has had quite a few of outbreaks, which 275 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: is Hickman County, which is kind of middle Tennessee, midwestern Tennessee, UM, 276 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: and they've had quite a few outbreaks. Has been a 277 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: lot of landowners posting about finding quite a few dear dead, 278 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: which is unfortunate, but it doesn't seem like it's widespread 279 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: by no means. With that velvet season that Tennessee has, 280 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: and you can use a muzzleloader. UM that obviously allows 281 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: you to reach out and touch these deer at a 282 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: greater distance. So how do your setups look hunting with 283 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: a muzzleloader that early versus if you were bow hunting. 284 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: Funny you said that. So again, in that c w 285 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: D zone we could use muzzloaders. UH. The other part 286 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: of the state they could not. And really it kind 287 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: of did open up our mind of how we could 288 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: hunt them because in deer and velvet and agg um there, 289 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: in my experience, they're very easy to stalk up on. 290 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: And that's actually what we did for the second year. 291 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: The first year, my buddy was able to shoot it 292 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: out of his saddle, um, and you know, just to 293 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: be able to get a forty yards on his deer, 294 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: my dear, Actually we had his stock out into the 295 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: beans to get a shot at at sixty yards, which really, 296 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, when the beans are so tall, you know 297 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: you're looking almost you know, you know, waist high as 298 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: taller beans. You know, you've got getting pretty close to 299 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: get a good shot at him. So that definitely did, 300 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: you know, change our way of hunting, but definitely made 301 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: it for you know, quite a fun hunting. I wish 302 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: you know, more people actually took part in that. So 303 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: Tennessee's regular deer opener still about twenty five days away 304 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: late September, So how will your tactics change when that 305 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: early when that opener comes versus what you were just hunting. Yes, 306 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: so when that season opens again, I hunt pretty much 307 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: strictly public line, and especially in Tennessee. One thing I 308 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: love to hit on early season up there is per simmons. Uh, definitely, 309 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: you know anywhere in mid to western Tennessee there's a 310 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: ton of for simmons, which is a great food source 311 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: early season, especially if you find a few tures that 312 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: are dropping or after a heavy storm has come through 313 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: and knocked a bunch to the ground, you'll absolutely find 314 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of deer, and that's definitely and that first, 315 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: you know, four or five days of the season. It's 316 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: something I like to focus on. Unless you can find 317 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: a good being field that either was late planet that 318 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: hasn't turned yellow yet. Uh, you know, that can be 319 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: another good food source. But the problem is when you 320 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: hunt public, anytime you're around beings on public, you're gonna 321 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: have other guys there. So normally it's not uh, not 322 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: normally very efficient in my opinion, in that part of 323 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: the country. Going forward to the next week or so, 324 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: what do you think that bucket activity is going to 325 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten, I expect 326 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: once they come out of velvet, which right now they're 327 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: probably seventy five percent the deer still end velvet. I've 328 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: seen a few deer coming out, and I've got some 329 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: buddies that a run trail cameras that are seeing deer 330 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: starting to come out of velvet. But uh, you know, 331 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: as they come out of velvet and they start kind 332 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: of splitting up a little bit, I can uh normally 333 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: see them start kind of eating off those fields so much, 334 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: uh and really kind of start covering a little bit 335 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: more ground and kind of getting into their fall ranges. 336 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: So when that happens, you know a lot of guys 337 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: will start freaking out because their deer, you know, the 338 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: patterns changed. They're coming to their you know, the camera 339 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: a couple of hours later or earlier than normal, which 340 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: gives guys kind of worried. But you just gotta stay 341 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: focused and try to find that betting area where they're 342 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: located at and try moving closer to him our jacobile. 343 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: Congrats on those bucks. I'm jealous that you guys get 344 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: to start hunting so early. And thanks for joining me. 345 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: I appreciate Spencer, Thank you all right and joining us 346 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: on the line. Next is Tony Peterson in Nebraska from 347 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: the Hunt for Real podcast. Tony, on a scale of 348 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: one to ten, what would you say the buck activities 349 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: been lately? Oh? Man, I would say probably pushing up 350 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: on an eight. You were currently on the road from 351 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: Nebraska to Minnesota and you're headed home early for good reason? 352 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: Is that right? We are? Man? Uh we uh. We 353 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: got down there a couple of days before the season 354 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: open on the first to glass and scouts the public 355 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: land and uh, my buddy and I I killed one 356 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: opening night. My buddy killed on the next day, and 357 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: now we're on Eariam home. Tony, you're one of the 358 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: best public land bow hunters. I know. I said this 359 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: multiple times over and it's just proved it again. So 360 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about those setups, because I'm 361 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: really interested in how you killed big velvet bucks and 362 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: back to back nights. Sure, we uh, you know, we 363 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: we planned on hunting water because it was you know, 364 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: it was gonna be hot. It was. It was eighty 365 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: degrees when I killed my buck at ninety when he 366 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: killed his, my buddy killed his. But there was water 367 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: everywhere down there. There's been so much rain. So as 368 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: soon as we got down there and we saw the 369 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: water situation, we switched to try to find some food. 370 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: And we thought some areas that had a ton of brows, 371 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: but there was no concentrated deer activity. And then we 372 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: found one good soybean field on public land that was 373 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of a hike to get into, and 374 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: that was the ticket. As soon as I started glassing, 375 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 1: and I knew we were probably gonna live and die 376 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: by that field. Now, how obvious that this soybean field 377 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: wasn't Were you competing with other hunters in that area 378 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: because it seems like a place that most public land 379 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: guys would focus on. Um, you would think. So. The 380 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: good thing about the soybean field we found was I 381 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: knew about it. I knew there was a field there 382 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: from turkey hunting in this public land the spring, but 383 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: you could barely see it from any road, and it 384 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: wasn't It wasn't as obvious as it sounds. Maybe, And 385 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: you know, we got in there early and did did 386 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: some scouting in there. We did have two guys from 387 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: Michigan pull up the night before the season opened, but 388 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: they were they were really nice guys and they said, Oh, 389 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: if you guys are in there hunt, we'll just wait. 390 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna be down here for a while. And so 391 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: those guys, uh, they just backed off of it because 392 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: it wasn't a very big spot and they that that 393 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: was cool that they did that, because they let us 394 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: have it, and we we ended up doing really well 395 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: in there. Now, he said, ordinarily you'd be focused on water. 396 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: What kind of water hunts do you like? Like little 397 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: stock dams or wallows or creeks or river crossing what 398 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: do those look like? Um, you know, in this in 399 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: this part of Nebraska where we were at it would 400 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: have been you know, cattle tanks and little ponds out 401 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: in the pastures, you know, anything anything around, some cover, 402 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: anything where you know, the white tails like good cover. 403 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: And if we could have find something tucked away, so 404 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: I had you know, my maps were just loaded with 405 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: way points of water. But there was there was water 406 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: absolutely everywhere, and it just was totally it was just 407 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: a worthless pattern for us. It wasn't gonna happen. Were 408 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: you seeing bachelor groups still together? Were these bucks traveling solo? Um? 409 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: They were? They were bachelord up still. Um, you know, 410 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: we still probably I'd say thirty or the bucks we 411 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: saw were hard antlerd already of the rest. We were 412 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: still in velvet, and they were they were pretty grouped up, 413 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: but they were they were so concentrated in one part 414 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: of that bean field that you know, it might have 415 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: been kind of an illusion. They may have just been 416 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: feeding close by each other. But we definitely did see 417 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: some bucks that were still together. You just mentioned that 418 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: they were focused out in one corner of the bean field. 419 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: What was it about that area that got you just 420 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: set up there and got you to kill these two bucks? Um? 421 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: The corner of the bean field they were using most heavily. 422 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: Heavily butted up to the best patch of timber there 423 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: and which really isn't much the path ustard woods, but 424 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: it's the best cover, and it's the least visible spot 425 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: on the field. It kind of spilled down a little way, 426 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 1: so the elevation drops away, and it was just one 427 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: of those places where if you were glassing from the 428 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: other side of the field, you'd sometimes see them pop 429 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,239 Speaker 1: out and go down in there, so you knew there 430 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: was something going on better there in the one place 431 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: that you couldn't really see, and I think I think 432 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: that's why they picked it. How early in the evening 433 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: were these books showing up um. Some of them were 434 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 1: living in it. The buck that I killed was betted 435 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: in there. When I hung my stand opening night, I 436 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: watched him get up and feed fifty yards away after 437 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: I got my stand hung, and then I watched another 438 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: bucket I had seen the previous night get up um 439 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: from inside the field. So they were you could see 440 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: when you got above these real lush, tall soybeans, you 441 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: could see all these little bomb crater looking at the 442 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: holes in the soybeans. And I think it was just 443 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: those bucks were spending so much time in there just 444 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: betting stand up feed. The bucket I killed actually ended 445 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: up bedding in front of me at thirty seven yards 446 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: for an hour, and I could see him seating while 447 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: he was laying down. Going forward to the next week 448 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: or so, what do you think that bucket ATVT is 449 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: going to be a skill of one to ten in Nebraska? Oh, 450 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: I would say with the coming forecast, I would say 451 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna stay around a seven or eight probably. I 452 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: don't think it's going to change too drastically with all 453 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: those deer going hard anlard yet. All right, Tony, well, 454 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: congrats again, thanks for joining me. Always look forward to 455 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: hearing these public land adventures that you're on and way 456 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: to go on the awesome deer. Awesome, thanks buddy, alright 457 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: and joining us on the line. Next from South Carolina 458 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: is Cameron Busty from cut Forward Outdoors. Now, Cameron in 459 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: South Carolina, what would you say the bucket activity has 460 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: been in the last week or so on a scale 461 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: of one to ten, I'd say about a six. The 462 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: deer kind of getting into a little transition period between uh, 463 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: they're they're coming out of their summer velvet and they're 464 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: starting to get hard to him. There usually their velvet 465 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: right hair around Labor Day weekend, so we're kind of 466 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: in that transition period and we're trying to target in 467 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 1: on bucks for the summer patterns of the fall pattern. 468 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: So we're kind of one of these a little transitions 469 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: right now. So what would you say the ratio is 470 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: in South Carolina bucks that are still holding velvet to 471 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: ones that are hard horned. I'd say it's about hard 472 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: horn the bigger bucks right now, or they're they're a 473 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: hard horn they're usually the first ones get rid of it. 474 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: And so with these early season sits, when you're trying 475 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: to catch these bucks going from those summer patterns to 476 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: fall patterns, what are you focused on protecting? When I 477 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: started August fifteen, so August fix, they still have their 478 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: bilment on. They're pretty pretty consistent, so you can get 479 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: on the food tourse early. UM your field agg fields 480 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: we had We've had some success in big fresh cutovers 481 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: um a lot of regrowth out there, especially in the morning, 482 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: and those big cutovers seemed to play the big cutovers 483 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: off the egg fields and staging aary for them to 484 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: come back to bed. They'll hang out there and mill 485 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: out there and after her in the morning, they're coming 486 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: from food back to bed. What we did augustly the 487 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: te um August eight tenths, you're killed the monster, I 488 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: mean heavy warned eight pointer Um in a cutover just 489 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: like that in the morning. Um. But right now we're 490 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: gonna start getting on some transition lines. UM. Food still primary, 491 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: especially in the afternoons, because they're still kind of comfortable. 492 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: They're not really getting too much pressure right now. We're 493 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: trying to stay out and not really bumping too hard 494 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: on the food. You mentioned that some of those caught 495 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: areas kind of function as staging areas in the mornings. 496 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: Does that mean that you've been doing some morning setups 497 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: this early in the season. Yes, actually we have. Actually 498 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: those have been most of our setups. Um. The farm 499 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: we hunt, it doesn't have egg The egg field is 500 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: not on the property. It's about um half mile the road. 501 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: So the deer are going to the hagfield tonight, but 502 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: we can't haunt the agg field. So we're catching them 503 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: coming back and they're using our cut over. It's a 504 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: two year old cut over. They cut it last year 505 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: and it's got vegetation that's probably nick highing and if 506 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: you get up on the edge of it and get 507 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: get high enough, and they're using that. I mean, we've 508 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: had an agatack days down here, so we're catching them 509 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: coming back to bed up the Creek games now coming 510 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: up here at the end of the week. It seems 511 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: like Hurricane Dorian maybe making contact with South Carolina. Do 512 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: you ever notice in the past that hurricanes affect the 513 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: deer movement before after hurricane and what does that look like? 514 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: Dorian is gonna be a little farther to our east 515 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: and more towards the coast. Were actually towards the center 516 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: of the state. But we've had hurries in the post 517 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: come come through and we've actually noticed buck moving right 518 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: before the storm. Or two years ago, we killed a 519 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: really really big eight pointer the day before hurricane came 520 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: and he learned he was up in October moving at 521 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: five o'clock in the afternoon. I mean, just something you 522 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: don't see, very rare, and there's a buck. We only 523 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: had a couple of pictures last year one of our 524 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: members because in North Carolina, you know, they had that 525 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: major storm I forget what the name of it was. 526 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: They came through last year. And he was hunting hadn't 527 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: had one huge I mean probably a hundred and sixty 528 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: five inch in North Carolina out in the bean fields 529 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: right in the middle of afternoon. Even so, I feel 530 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: like they know the storm is coming and it puts 531 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: up because they know the next days are going to 532 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: be bad going forward. Then in the sex week or so, 533 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: what do you think that bucket activity is going to 534 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in South Carolina? 535 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: I feel like it's gonna pick up and probably be 536 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: about seven and I have eight before the storm. During 537 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: the storm, it could drop back to a three or four, 538 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: and then right after it should should get back to 539 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: about normal, so about five or six. I mean, it 540 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: could vary through out the week with the storm coming there. Alright, Cameron, well, 541 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: thanks for joining me and good luck to you and 542 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 1: everyone else from Cut four Outdoors. Thank you alright and 543 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: joining us on the line. Next is Dylan Lens out 544 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: of North Dakota from Breaking Point TV. Dylan, on a 545 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: scale of one to tendon, what would you say the 546 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: buck activity has been lately? I would say it's about 547 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: a six right now. Um, we had some warm weather 548 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: while we were out hunting through the opener of this 549 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: past weekend and started off strong with some high pressure. 550 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: We had some good buck movement and then it really 551 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: tailed off. Is that weather stabilized and uh, I didn't 552 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: have much daylight activity for bucks at once. That kind 553 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: of settled out. Someone in your group did have success though. 554 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: On was it opening night there in North Dakota? Opening night? 555 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: Are buddy and in script checked or JP as we 556 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: call him, uh took out an awesome velvet stuck on 557 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: opening night UM with quite a bit of daylight left, 558 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: so he was he was pretty fortunate to be in 559 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: the right place at the right time out there, and 560 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: I believe does this first of velvet white scales. So 561 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: it was a pretty awesome night. And what do those 562 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: setups look like that you guys were using. Was it 563 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: mostly field edgies. Yeah, it's almost all feel edges that 564 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: were hunting out there on North Dakota's a lot of 565 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: big marshes um where you can't really get in and 566 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: get on it. Didn't you know, access point to you know, 567 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: set up an ambush. So he kind of gotta pick 568 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: tree rows or small wood lots where we think we 569 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 1: can get the beer. Um while they're headed to food, 570 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: you know, leaving the big marshes and kind of in 571 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: a vulnerable spot. Tell me more about that buck that 572 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: your buddy killed. How early was that deer out moving? 573 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: Was he traveling with others? So he was actually coming 574 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: behind two doughs, Um, it was kind of a different situation. 575 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: He had crossed the road and a car had come 576 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: past right about when they crossed the road, so kind 577 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: of hurried that buck up, um coming towards the tree 578 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: line that he was sitting on, and he basically followed 579 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: the dosh down the trail and straight as to stand. 580 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: So it just worked out perfect. That was I believe 581 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: with another hour hour and a half of daylight left. 582 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: So it's really fortunate to have that movement that early. 583 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: You guys had a really short window there in North Dakota, 584 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: because I know a few years took off and are 585 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: now haunting Muley's when the window is that tight. Are 586 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: you hunting any mornings early in the season like this? 587 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: We truly don't hunt mornings in North Dakota just because 588 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: of our stand setups. Um, you know, we went in there, 589 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: we'd definitely be pushing dear off for food and we 590 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: aren't hunting betting areas, because like I said, you know, 591 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: they're betting out in the marches and that sort of thing. 592 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: So if we're going in the morning, we pretty much 593 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: blow the whole sit right off the bat. So kind 594 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: of getting out there where we think that deer headed to, 595 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: are in between where they're headed to and their betting 596 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: has worked out best for us. That's always happening in 597 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: the keeping. What was the ratio of velvet bucks to 598 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: hard worn bucks there in North Dakota while we were 599 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: out there this patch weekend, it was almost all still velvet. 600 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: We had one buck that was full hearted horns, had 601 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: some awesome horners of him actually uh right before he 602 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: lost his velvet and then he must have you know, 603 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: went and shredded it right nearby. And that was actually 604 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: in August, so that was pretty early. Um, but all 605 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: the other year that we had on camera or saw 606 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: while we were in the stand, we're still holding velvet. 607 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: So that was pretty cool. Had those opportunities while we 608 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: were there on those velvet buckets. Are you guys worried 609 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: about water sources all this time of year? Is that 610 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: something that you focus on just like you would these 611 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: food sources. How were we hunt in North Dakota. It's 612 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: so wet anyway, with all the marshes that first wet 613 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: of the years it's been out there, we haven't noticed 614 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,479 Speaker 1: a heck of a lot of difference in you know, 615 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: their activity um pertaining to water. So I don't know, 616 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: you know, if you were in a drier area, maybe 617 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: it's be a little bit different because of how much 618 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: water is available to him this year. But we just 619 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: didn't notice that kind of you know change. I know, 620 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: you guys are potentially hitted back to North Dakota like 621 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: next week or so, how will your actors have changed 622 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: from just a few days ago to about seven days 623 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: from now. During the early season, we pretty much kind 624 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: of employed the same tactics and you know, really just 625 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: checking the cameras and trying to stay out of air 626 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: as much as possible, keeping them fresh, sneaking in during 627 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: broad daylight middle of the day when we know we 628 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: can get in there those deer in the marshes, they're 629 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: gonna see yea, We go in check the camera see 630 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: if they were in that area either you know, before 631 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: dark the night before or maybe move through on their 632 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: way back into bed in the morning. And then we 633 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: just try and pick that spot and play the wind 634 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: and hope that they're going to make that mistake again 635 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: or show up during daylight. Going forward. Then in the 636 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: six week or so, what do you think that bucket 637 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: activity is going to be on a scale of one 638 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: to ten in North Dakota. I would say it's still 639 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,719 Speaker 1: going to be that six maybe seven area. It's really 640 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: gonna depend on the weather. I haven't looked at the 641 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: expended forecast, but you know, if we get a little 642 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: bit of cool front um and some higher pressure, I 643 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: think maybe those bucks will get on their feet a 644 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: little earlier. Our Dylan, thanks for joining me, good luck 645 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: on the rest of your traveling haunts and everyone else 646 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: from the Breaking Point TV. Thanks a lot you guys. 647 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: Good must as well, and that concludes this week's episode 648 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: of Wired Haunts rout Fresh Radio. Thanks to Jacob, Tony Cameron, 649 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: and Dylan for joining me, and thank you guys for listening. 650 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: For more great white tail content, make sure you're checking 651 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: out the meat Eater dot com and following Meat Eater 652 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: and Wired Haunts on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. You can 653 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: also follow me at Spencer Newhart on Instagram to see 654 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: what I'm up to. This fall, and I hope that 655 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: you guys are as excited as I am for Season 656 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: four of rout Fresh Radio. Until next time, stay wired 657 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: to Hunt,