WEBVTT - Ep 25: Mac DeMarco 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:53.400 Loud and Quiet Presents Midnight Chats. 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:31.440 Loud and a great local fucking newspaper. Just try it, 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:33.000 might believe it Rockable. 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:36.720 That was the sound of my guest on this week's podcast, 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:40.879 not recorded recently a tour. Actually, that little snippet that 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:44.360 was from back in twenty fourteen, which is when I 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:50.040 last saw Mac DeMarco. We were in Amsterdam together as 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:53.440 he was touring Salad Days, his second album, and we 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:55.320 were doing a cover feature. He was on the cover 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.360 of Loud on Quiet fifty nine back in June of 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:01.920 twenty and fourteen, and that was the sound of Mac 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:07.039 attempting a British accent. I think he was being a 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:10.600 market trader and he was trying to flog copies of 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:11.440 Loud and Quiet. 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:15.560 Try it Loud and a great local fucking newspaper. Just 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:16.840 try it, might believe it. 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:17.560 Boy. 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:21.840 It's an appalling attempt, of course, but that's exactly what 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:26.479 I like about it. I love North Americans doing bad 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:31.119 British accents, and that was something that he just launched into. 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:35.480 We've done the interview that day, I remember, and I've 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:37.959 given him a copy of our issue that was out 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:40.679 at that point, and he just kind of grabbed it 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:44.200 and started doing this this skit, so I asked him 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.639 to do it a second time so I could film 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.520 it on my BlackBerry, which was my phone and choice 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:53.120 back then, and that little bit of footage, if you 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:56.040 care to watch it, is on our YouTube channel. I 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.040 think it might be the first thing that we posted 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.080 on there. In fact, I might have even start i 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:03.760 the YouTube channel because I had that on my phone 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:08.280 and I found it funny. Since then, Mac has released 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:13.200 a couple more records. Well, he's released a mini album 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.040 called Another One, and he's just about to release his 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:19.360 third proper album called This Old Dog, comes out next 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:23.359 month on captured tracks. And that's the official reason he 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:25.760 came by our office to record this podcast. A couple 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:29.560 of months ago, he was in town purely doing press, 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:33.840 which is a bit of a drag for most musicians 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:37.880 to not be playing shows whilst they're in towns. That's 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:41.440 normally the respite from all the crapping on to journalists 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.000 is they get to actually play a show in the evening, Mac, 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:46.600 to save his own sanity, manage to squeeze in a 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:51.320 special solo acoustic show here in London and Namboka the 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:54.480 following night after I spoke to him, and I think 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:58.080 that was I think he needed that. He's not really 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:01.679 a big fan of doing interviews, although I think you'll 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.160 probably agree once you've listened to this he's very good 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:08.480 at them. He's just, you know, it'd rather be playing, 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:13.440 which is understandable. So yeah, thanks to Mac for coming 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.639 by on his trip here. I'm not going to say 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:21.480 much more about this episode because we're on press deadline 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:23.560 here today. We need to send a new issue of 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:27.600 the magazine to print, which by the time you're listening 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:31.240 to this episode of the podcast, the magazine will either 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.680 be out or it will be out in one day's time. 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:38.800 I'm procrastinating. Really, I shouldn't be recording this intro now. 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:44.040 This can wait till tomorrow, but I'm just on deadline 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.400 and I'm just trying to do everything but finish my work. 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.560 For some reason. Anyway, I need to get on with 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.760 that now. So I'm going to leave you with Mac 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:58.680 DeMarco on Midnight Chats number twenty five, And if you 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:03.160 do enjoy it, please leave a little comment or rate 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:07.080 it on iTunes or wherever you get your podcast from. 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.839 It's quite hard to find on the iTunes out where 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:13.160 you actually post a comment, so I won't be offended 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.280 if you just cannot be asked, or if you give up. 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:17.520 But if you do, if you know how to do that, 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:21.440 or you've got some spare time on the bus, leave 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.840 some feedback, give us a little rating. And if you're 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.800 not a subscriber, or you're maybe listening to this on 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:32.479 YouTube or elsewhere online, you can subscribe to us on 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.240 iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts from. We're on 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.719 all the platforms that you can get on your androids. 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.440 Not blackberries, though they are sadly a thing in the past, 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:45.600 which is why I had to get rid of Night 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:50.400 Until next time. Here's Mac DeMarco on Midnight Chats. 0:04:50.680 --> 0:05:12.000 All right, boy, woke up early. 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.760 I already had a salpy bagel today, which is the 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:18.120 one thing I need when I'm in London, So a 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:18.799 happy camper. 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:20.440 Right, did you get that on Bricklay? 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:21.880 I had it at the one on the right. If 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:23.880 you're looking at him, that's the best one. That's only 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:25.320 what I've been to. But I think I made the 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:25.840 right choice. 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:27.599 Ye the first time, I kind of felt bad for 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:29.800 the bagel shop on the left because I think everyone 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:31.000 just goes to the one on the right. 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.280 One of the left didn't looked at bumping, but this 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.360 one had like had a ky Yeah, I had like 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:38.080 a candy cane line going through it. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:38.400 Yeah. 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.080 Sure, that's impressive that you've had a salt beef bagel. 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.520 I mean no, we're getting on for lunchtime. Yeah, so 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:44.080 that's fine. 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:47.560 Yeah, yeah, anytime of the Day's so. 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:49.920 You're here doing some some. 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.480 Press promotion tour twenty seventeen. 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:53.680 This is your promo tour. 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.520 My favorite kind of tour. Absolutely love it. 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:58.800 If you had it your way, that'll be like this, right, 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:00.640 there'd be no show. 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:02.960 Shows, no way, interviews, photo shoots all day. 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:04.640 Oh yeah, I's all you're about. 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:08.800 I wouldn't even make records if I had the choice. No, 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:10.080 you just interviews. 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:10.360 You know. 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.440 You were you are again. You are sneaking in a 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:15.520 show tomorrow night though. 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:16.120 So little one. 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.880 Yeah yeah is that just to keep you saying what 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:19.320 I think? 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:20.440 Yeah? Yeah, yeah pretty much. 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:20.680 Yeah. 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.159 You've just thought, I need to like just something, I 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:24.680 need to do some I need a treat for me, 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:25.680 and it's something for me. 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:26.520 Yeah, exactly. 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.719 So you're doing a It's it's fortunate for me that 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.160 show because it's right by my house. 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:33.880 No, it's not fun. Where is it. 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:38.400 It's in a place called Nambooka in Holloway in North London, Okay, 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.760 which is about maybe a twenty five minute drive from here. 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:44.880 But it's just you, right, it's just you, just me 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:46.920 playing some song. I do it sometimes. 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:48.880 When was the last time you did a show where 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:50.360 it was just you and not not the band. 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.440 Well, I did the same kind of little press Torsch 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.360 Sol Show and BERLINX were there like four days ago 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:56.520 or something, So I did that one. 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:01.200 Excuse me. I do them in the States every once 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:01.640 in a while. 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:05.840 It's like, you know, sometimes I'll fly and just do 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.560 one at like a college or like some city or whatever. 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:09.640 I like doing them. They're fun. 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.320 It's like a little bit of a different, very different 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:15.040 thing than the well in some ways, you know, it's 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.040 different than with the band. Other people could argue that 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:19.400 it's just me doing the exact same thing without the 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:24.240 band there, so but but yeah, it's it's fun. But yeah, 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.720 I think it. There's been tours where the van is 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:29.080 broken down and then I'll get in the support vent 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.440 and like the support bands van and go to the 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:34.280 next cities and just do the shows as as opposed 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:37.440 to canceling them by myself. Sometimes the crowd is into it, 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:38.360 sometimes not so much. 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.160 What's the what the what the mark difference is? Is 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.120 it just you and what's your set up? Do you 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:44.240 just take one acoustic? It's out? 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.400 Sometimes I do an acoustic. I've been doing an electric 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:47.080 over here. 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:50.600 Yeah, just me singing guitar. You know, sometimes will have 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:52.280 a little keyboard, but not this time. 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:56.680 It's fun. You know, everybody's singing along hopefully. 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.880 It's me busy. It's a small room. 0:07:59.200 --> 0:07:59.920 It should be cool. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.360 Yeah, yeah, it should be good. So, I mean this 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:06.200 tour is pressed too currently it's for the new record, 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:11.040 This Old Dog, and it's a different feel this one, 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:13.240 I guess, so I don't know, it's a different do 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:16.240 you can you you can't? Can you sense the different 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.920 kind of feel of the record or not so much? 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:21.320 I mean I made it so it's kind of hard 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.240 for me, and it's not like I like listen to 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:24.080 my old records. 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:24.280 All the time. 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:27.840 But definitely, I mean it sounds different to me, It 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.160 felt a little. It felt a little different to make. 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:31.480 I mean, I still do it the same way I 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:33.920 do any of my other records, but you know, just 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:35.920 the elements of it, you know. I think I think 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.360 at this point because I did it already and it 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:40.360 was you know, the feeling was there when I did it. 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:42.360 Now it's like, oh, it's not weird, you know. 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.080 But but if I think about it, it's like, oh, 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:46.920 I used acoustic guitar for a lot of it, Like 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:49.320 didn't really use that many like effects or anything. It's 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.160 kind of you know, the concept of it, I think 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.559 is like pretty different maybe, but I just was kind 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:57.600 of in it, so I don't know, it's not like 0:08:57.679 --> 0:08:59.960 I was I had this like list of like things 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.240 that I was trying to do, you know, just kind 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:03.439 of did just was natural. 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.120 Yeah, people I imagine are going to call it your 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:10.440 most mellow record. Might be a word that they're going 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:13.280 to use, or maybe goofy, slacker. 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:13.800 I don't know. 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.240 That's the one that I mean, they have to be used. 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.120 It's we get given a handbook when writing about my 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:23.880 blood music. They have to be they have to be 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.640 mentioned those ways. Yeah, slacker, goofy. 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.360 I guess it is a little more. Yeah, there's like 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:32.480 pretty there's not very many up tempo songs on it. 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:34.640 But the thing I just don't really listen to fast 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.719 music anymore. I mean I do, but most of the 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.160 stuff if I'm sitting down or like you know, getting 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.520 my like little monitor zone and want to listen to something, 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.679 it's all like weird. 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:44.360 You know. 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.640 I think what I consider up tempo. Now most people 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.160 are like, well, this is very mellow. 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.160 But you know what would be your what would be 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:50.679 your go to? 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:54.400 I love like you ever heard this album called Pacific 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.839 by Harry Hillsno, it's like him and the guy Rucci 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:00.000 saka Model. They played in Yellow Magic Orchestra together, but 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.319 this is like right before they decided to start it, 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.800 and it's kind of like he's got this this theme 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:06.560 throughout it where it's like this is supposed to be 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:10.560 this Hawaiian or like tropical island theme. It's like very 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:14.200 it's not really that, you know, in your face, it's 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.360 very mellow, you know. But for me, that's like faster 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:18.360 than most of the music I've listened to today. I 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:20.680 guess I don't know, it's just my vibe right now. 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:22.760 What's that the what's that the other end of the sky? 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.839 If that's your fault, If that's your that's your I'm 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:26.600 going out on the town. 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:31.240 Yeah, like Chuck Mangioni or something is my like party music, 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:35.160 you know, but uh yeah, I don't know. I I 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.840 listened to a lot of like soundtrack music nowadays, a 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:43.240 lot of like ambient synthesizer stuff. This skuy Isautomida from Japan. 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.880 I've gotten really into him this last year. His stuff's 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:50.800 like abstract, weird, all like monosynth like Moog stuff, and 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.240 he like he did a lot of like it's it's 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.600 it's kind of crazy because you find his records in like, 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:58.240 you know, thrift stories in the States because he did 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:03.680 like you know, turned on version of classical music. But yeah, 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.680 that guy's insane. There's one album that I've been this 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.000 guy mort Darson from Canada. He did an album called 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.920 Plantasia through this like Mother Earth series, and it's this 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:15.920 album where you're supposed to play it for your plants 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:18.599 and it'll make your plants happier. It's called Plantasia. 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:21.640 We could do that and here these plants, Yeah, they'd 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:25.240 love it. This one looks pretty sad today. They all 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:27.280 look nut So do you think they look okay? Because 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.920 like some days you come in and I swear. 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:31.959 That they were about to die it's okay, you know, 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:35.120 I think they look cool. Okay, but yeah they could 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:39.560 use a little plantasia. But yeah, I don't know. And 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:43.920 that stuff is kind of like, you know, just strange simple. 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.440 It's not even like intricate, insane like synthesized music. It's 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:51.080 very simple melodies through like a weird monocyn that's the 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:52.760 kind of stuff you know in video game music. I 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:54.880 love video game music from when I was a kid. Now, no, 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:56.559 you know, there was a time in my life where 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:59.800 I was like, you know, trying to be too cool 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.000 to like, you know, i'd find one guy like every 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.160 couple of years and like, yo, like you play fun 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.240 fantasy when you're growing up too, Like that's awesome, Like 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:07.000 let's keep it down. 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:09.920 But now it's like that. I think a lot of 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:11.040 that music shaped the way. 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:12.320 That I make music now. And I don't know why 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.760 I was so ashamed or not ashamed, but like just 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:16.720 scared of letting it loose. 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:19.880 But hell yeah I love it, you know, yeah, super 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:20.680 Nintendo music. 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:26.600 It's something that's so simple, simple melodies, repetitive, but it 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:28.240 gets the gets the job done. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:29.320 You know, it's no problem. 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:31.880 Yeah, that's it's what's been interesting me now, which is 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:33.000 maybe weird, but I don't. 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.360 Know that's cool. I think the I mean, on the 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:38.000 new record, there are the thing that's gonna stop. The 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.760 other thing that people are gonna probably say incorrectly, of course, 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.520 is that it's your unplugged record. Oh yeah, but the 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:45.360 thing that stops it. I mean, it can't be that 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.240 because it has sympathizer on it. Yeah, exactly, so it 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.000 can't be it can't be that. But but you can 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:53.640 hear them that some of the side of the sounds 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:55.200 sound video game. 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.720 Yeah ish, they're not cool and sexy and big, you know. 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:02.559 I like the cheat been shitty sounding like okay, yeah, yeah. 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:03.080 That's what I like. 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:07.000 This is probably something that people have maybe when they 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.640 hear your music, have said before. I've never really heard 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:13.600 it until now. Your vocal on this new record reminds 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:14.720 me of Damon Albarn. 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:19.640 People said that to you. I no, not really, okay, 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:23.240 but that's tight because I really like all the stuff 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.440 that he's done pretty much. But I don't know. 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.839 I mean, I and then's like, you know, I like 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:31.120 the style of you know, pretty much throughout his he 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.120 never did like you know, it was like his voice 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:34.319 like real deal. 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:35.760 It's not like he's this crazy. 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:37.680 Sometimes he goes up and down, but it's mostly just 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:40.679 like talking, you know, timbore or whatever. It's like his 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:44.120 normal speech range, and it's just right in your face, 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:45.199 not a lot of effects. 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:46.440 I love Damon's voice. 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.240 Yeah, and I think with Damon's voice, the slower it gets, 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:50.040 the better it sounds. 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:53.920 Oh yeah, took a lullaby, one of those crazy voices. 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:55.920 And then your new record's got a bit of that, 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.719 especially the second track, which is My Old Man, Right. 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:01.520 I think this I could my Old Man's number one. 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:05.560 I think this Old Dog is that particularly like I 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:07.800 hear it in that I've not heard it until now. 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:09.240 I didn't know if that was something that see. 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:10.760 That was one of the things that the old records 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:12.840 is I would pitch my voice, you know, starting with 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.520 Racer on My Club, pitch it way down and then 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:17.319 up a little bit here and there, and then on 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:20.200 two was mostly I didn't really touch it that much 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.280 in there, but there was loads of delays and reverbs 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.800 and stuff on it. Then Salad Days, I started kind 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:26.560 of tweaking my voice up a little bit to give 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.360 it like a touch of John Lennon or something like it, 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:30.520 and then this one I was like, I don't really 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:32.120 want to touch it and I'm just gonna lead and 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:35.640 you know, no effects on most stuff, and just wanted 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:36.000 it to. 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.960 Be like as like real as possible. Yeah, just like 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:42.920 no baloney, you know, just these are these songs. That's it. 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:43.880 Who cares? You know? 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.560 Do you think it's because you feel like you've become 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:50.080 you feel more comfortable with your voice as you tour 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.360 it so much you practice, not more? 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:53.080 Maybe? 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:54.720 I mean the thing about us playing shows is I 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:56.880 can barely ever I sing pretty quietly, so I can 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:57.680 barely ever hear. 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:58.680 My voice on stage anyway. 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:01.840 So you know, sometimes the shows are fine. Most of 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:03.280 the time, I have no idea what I'm doing. I 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:05.480 smoke like a chimney, so it's like, if anything, my 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:09.600 voice has probably gotten worse. But for some reason with 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:10.840 these songs, and I think it was the way I 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:12.520 wrote them too. It's just kind of like I sat 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:14.800 down wrote them on a guitar that was the song 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:16.920 instead of before where it's like I'm gonna get drum 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:20.040 machine beat, try a bassline, like oh, these chords work, 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.160 and then like maybe a little since part then like 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.160 oh and I have like a vocal for like the chorus, 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.200 but okay, now I'm gonna write the verses like what 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:28.960 about you know, a second guitar And it's like, so 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:31.480 it was kind of like building a lego thin before, 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:33.880 but this time it was like, that's the song and 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:35.040 doesn't need drums. 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.400 Maybe I don't know, it doesn't They didn't really. Yeah, 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.480 you know, that's completely objective, I guess. 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.520 But it's like as a song, they could just exist 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:45.240 that way, you know, instead. 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:46.720 Of having to be Cause a lot of. 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.520 My older songs, I feel like if they weren't done 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:51.920 in the way that I recorded them or something, or 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.800 like you know, with a certain recording method or that 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.120 like low fire, then they probably wouldn't. 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:59.640 Make as much sense. You know, some of them be fine, 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.360 but yeah, some would be kind of weird. I think. 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:06.480 Yeah. Sure. So it's called this Old Dog and they're 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:10.280 are the theme of getting older. Yeah, it's something that 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:15.080 was on the track Salad Days. It was maybe the 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.360 first time it was kind of approached in a song 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:22.000 of yours and that's them has come back again. Feel 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.000 do you feel old? Are you feeling old? 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:24.520 I don't know. 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:25.960 I mean, well, because you're a young man. 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:27.080 Yeah, I'm twenty six. 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.640 You're full of life. I'm looking at you now. 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:31.760 But I think, yeah, I mean when I say old, 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.560 I mean with my old man. That's talking about my dad, 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.680 so he is already old. But for this old dog, 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.040 it's like, you know, I feel like it's more of 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.960 just like a you know, out at you old dog, 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.440 dirty old dog, like you dirty dog, bastard, like that 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:46.000 kind of thing. 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:50.160 You know. I don't know. I think it's yeah, it's interesting. 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.200 I think it's not about so much getting old me, 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:53.240 like oh my god, I'm like. 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:56.680 You know, it's just like I feel like there's been 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:58.800 in this past year sometimes my life where I'm kind 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:02.280 of like, you know, things are like not settling down. 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.280 But it's kind of like I've reached a point where like, 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.560 you know, I bought houses here, I like live comfortably, 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:08.480 like we tore. 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:13.200 There's nothing like that terrifying or like confusing about what 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:16.199 I'm my existence now, you know, And that is what 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:16.800 scares me. 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:18.239 It's kind of like, well, I could just sit on 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:20.879 my ass till I pass away, you know, and that 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:22.720 would be fine, you know, but I mean, you know, 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:24.080 I'll play music and do whatever. 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.040 But it's just just hitting. 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.720 That kind of like I don't know what to I 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:30.800 think for me in my mind, like buying a house 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:34.720 is like a big who was a big marker of like, well, 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:38.359 now you can retire. That makes exactly you know, and 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.400 then now and now that I did it because for years, 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:41.840 four years probably I was kind of like every time 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:43.080 i'd make a little bit of money, I was like, 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:44.880 let's see what I can afford with this, you. 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:47.240 Know, And then I finally bought something, and it's like, shit, 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:50.600 what do I do now? Like damn, it's just weird, 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:51.600 you know, it's a weird feeling. 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.760 Yeah, So the house boys I in La. Yeah, and 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:56.520 that's kind of funny. It's like why did I buy there? 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:57.080 I don't know. 0:17:57.280 --> 0:17:58.600