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That's a fact. 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: So anytime we get to talk about real estate, it's exciting. 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: It seems like an every time we talk about real estate, 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: there's always a different avenue. There's so many different ways 23 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: to make money within real estate. So this is the 24 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: first time that we really had somebody from the city, 25 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: from New York City that was really big in real 26 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: estate as an investor. So Ju Bernard is a huge, huge, 27 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: huge successful investor out of New York City. He owns 28 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: thirteen Brownstones between Brooklyn and Harlem, and he also owns 29 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: a physical location, the Brooklyn Bank, which we'll talk about, 30 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: which is a nonprofit organization in Brooklyn as well. He 31 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: has real estate company, just a very accomplished. 32 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 4: Yeah that sounds it's called talk. 33 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, the properties Echo. The properties together valued over 34 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: forty million dollars. I mean, if you're familiar with the 35 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: parts of New York City, if you know, you know 36 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: Brownstones in Brooklyn Best Die Area and then Harlem, you 37 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: know that you know, on the low end one million, 38 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: one point five million, on the high end two point 39 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,119 Speaker 2: five three million, four million dollars, Like, it's not uncommon 40 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: for Brownstones to go for that. 41 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: He has a very. 42 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: Unique story because he's one of the guys that, like 43 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: when Jay Z said, I could have brought a dumbo, 44 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 2: I could have brought a what he said, I could 45 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 2: have brought a cribin dumb I could have brought a 46 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: building in Dumbo for like million, that same buildings where 47 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: twenty million half filling Dumbo. So he's one of these 48 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: guys that actually had an opportunity to invest early and 49 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: and you know, before the areas really started to get 50 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: gentified and changed, and he just you know, set on 51 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: it and it worked. 52 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 3: Out for his favor. 53 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: So he has a story to tell, He got a 54 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: lot of gyms to give, and it's a great, great 55 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: conversation to have because a lot of times we speak 56 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: about being on the wrong side of gentrification and not 57 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: taking advantage of certain things and like getting in when 58 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: it's too late. But he actually got in before it 59 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: actually started to change, and he saw the whole process, 60 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: and he learned a lot along the wave, created systems 61 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 2: for himself, and just a wealth of information. He also 62 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: taught a class for us eyl U a professor, Yes 63 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: that's a fact. So he taught the class at Eyo University, 64 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: and we thought it would be a good idea to 65 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: bring him on the podcast as well. So first and foremost, 66 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 2: thank you for joining us. Appreciate it, glad to be here, brother, 67 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: appreciate you nah for sure, for sure so let's get 68 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: into it. Let's let's get into it, because I you know, 69 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: I was listening to your class shoutut to Jamar did 70 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: a good job of hosting it, and I know you 71 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: said that your original goal in real estate was to 72 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: make five hundred dollars a month, Like he was like, 73 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: if I could just make five hundred dollars a month, 74 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: it's crazy. Five hundred dollars a month to almost forty 75 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: fifty million dollars in real estate, Like, it's crazy how 76 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: life works out. So how what was what was your 77 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: original process into getting to real estate and how did 78 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: you make the transition from just working to actually being 79 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: a real estate investor? 80 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 5: Okay, what made me get into the game? I was 81 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 5: just short, you know, like I just didn't have like 82 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 5: my nine to five just wasn't cutting it. You know, 83 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 5: this was like back in the mid to late nineties 84 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 5: when when there was the bottles and and and any 85 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 5: at any minute, Diddy could run into the into the 86 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 5: spot and you know say buy the bar out and 87 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 5: buy the bar out, and you're just sitting there holding 88 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 5: your hindeken all night, and you know, I just didn't 89 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 5: want to be that dude, you know, I did not 90 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 5: want to be that dude. So I was just like, Yo, 91 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 5: how am I going to do this? You know, I 92 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 5: had gotten into a little trouble earlier, ended up spending 93 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 5: you know, like over some dumb ship, like spent a 94 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 5: week in Albany, Albany County, and I was just like, yo, 95 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 5: I'm not about that life. So I learned. 96 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 6: I learned. 97 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 5: I learned very very early in the game, I'm not 98 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 5: about that life, you know, being a New York dude 99 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 5: in Albany County jail. 100 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 6: It was just like, Nah, this ain't this ain't for me. 101 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 5: So I was just like, I can't be in the 102 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 5: streets because that that don't work for me. I ain't 103 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 5: got no hot sixteens, no hot runs. And my jump 104 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 5: shot is I wouldn't even say decent. It's on a 105 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 5: good day, mediocre, mediocre at best. So the only thing 106 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 5: left for me to do was try to find my 107 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 5: way in business. You know. So I was I was 108 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 5: working at Verizon at the time, and I was working 109 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 5: on my MBA, you know, and I was I was 110 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 5: planning on going the whole corporate route, but I was 111 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 5: still you know, I was still young. I was like, 112 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 5: in my early twenties, still still hanging out and stuff 113 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 5: like that. So I wanted to be in the mix. 114 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 6: So when I. 115 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 5: Met this dude, this dude in my class one day, 116 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 5: we were just chopping it up and he was a 117 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 5: real estate broker and he was telling me, yo, if 118 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 5: you got if you got good credit, if you got 119 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 5: good credit, you could buy a crib. 120 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 6: And I was just like, how am I going to 121 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 6: do that? 122 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 5: Then he you know, walked me through the whole faha 123 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 5: process and this, that and the other, and that's when 124 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 5: I was just like, but I don't have no front 125 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 5: money to do it. 126 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: So that's when I pulled. 127 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 5: I pulled money out of a student loan because although 128 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 5: Verizon was paying me, paying me to go to school, 129 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 5: but I could still take student loans out. So you know, 130 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 5: I took I took like a hustle. I took like 131 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 5: I took like a twelve thousand dollars, twelve thousand dollars 132 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 5: loan and I bought one hundred thousand dollars crib for 133 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 5: like three percent down. 134 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 4: They'll send you the refund check, send me the. 135 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 5: Refundcheck scale exactly. 136 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 3: It was. It was, it was faha, It was faha. 137 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 6: The very first joint. 138 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 3: So you took twelve So how much was it? You said, 139 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: twelve thousand dollars loan. 140 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 6: It was a twelve thousand dollars loan. 141 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 5: When everything's when everything was all said and done, I 142 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 5: probably came out of my pocket like like ten grand. 143 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 3: What year it was this, This was ninety seven, so 144 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 3: three down? 145 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, crip. Crip was one hundred thousand dollars. 146 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 3: So three thousand. And then closing costs, all of. 147 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 5: That closing costs and all the other little thing. 148 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: Cost ten thousand. 149 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then okay, and then then my you know, 150 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 5: then the next crib came available, like a few months later. 151 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 5: That was right next door. So I did it again. 152 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 3: Where is this that? 153 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 6: This was south side Queens. 154 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 4: So Queens is the Queens is the origin of your 155 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 4: real estate journey. 156 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 5: Those were the first two cribs I ever bought. I 157 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 5: bought them in Queens. I didn't I didn't know anything 158 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 5: about it because I was actually living in Queens at 159 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 5: the time. 160 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 6: I was living in Rosedale. 161 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 5: So I copped those those two cribs and then and 162 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 5: then my man put me on to the refinance hustle. 163 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 7: So on the first crib you did the student loan 164 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 7: refund right, second crib, same thing, or we just took 165 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 7: the profits on the first. 166 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 5: Second crib, same thing, more student loans, next semester, did 167 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 5: it again. 168 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 4: Yoh, that's crazy. I remember getting that refund check. 169 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 7: It was like, if you take out a loan, right, 170 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 7: and then if somebody's paying for it, they reimburse you. 171 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 7: And I think I bought like I bought like a 172 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 7: pair of Tams and some Jordans. 173 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 4: Nah, I wasn't thinking right. 174 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 5: And then I rocked. I rocked that same hustle for 175 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 5: like two years where I was where now. I found 176 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 5: out that if I paid, if I paid it upfront, 177 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 5: if I paid the money out of my pocket, then 178 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 5: I could apply for financial aid. Right. I applied for 179 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 5: financial aid, and then I got that money, and then 180 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 5: I took the little student loans, and then I took 181 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 5: the receipt of when I paid my money, and then 182 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 5: I gave it to the job and they got reimbursed it, 183 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 5: and then they reimbursed me. 184 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 4: So it was student loans brought your homes. 185 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how I got started, beautiful stories, you know, 186 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 5: that's how I got started. I probably statute of limitations 187 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 5: is probably it was nineteen ninety seven. You know, good 188 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 5: luck anybody went prosecuting. 189 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 6: But that's how I got started. 190 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 2: Okay, So all right, so two homes. Then you say 191 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 2: you got turned to the to the REFI game. 192 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 5: Got turned onto the refi game. So cribs that I 193 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 5: bought for one hundred grand, now now I could refight 194 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 5: them because the values were like at one hundred and 195 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 5: fifty like a year later because I bought them blow 196 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 5: market and stuff like that, and so now I got 197 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 5: all my cash back plus another I mean plus more cash. 198 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 5: So so it's like two years into the game, I 199 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 5: was like already one hundred grand. 200 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 8: Strong came into the strong, yeah exact, but I always 201 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 8: use that because that one hundred grand is like I 202 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 8: had a home akery line of credit. 203 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 5: I ended up buying a crib. I ended up buying 204 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 5: another crib that where me and my boys used to 205 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 5: live at. You know, I bought a two family crib, 206 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 5: and then I had the mortgage was like two thousand 207 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 5: dollars a month. The mortgage was like two thousand dollars 208 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 5: a month. 209 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 3: I had. 210 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 5: I was renting upstairs for fifteen hundred, and each one 211 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 5: of my boys was giving me five hundred plus. 212 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 6: I was renting the basement for six hundred dollars, so. 213 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 5: I was put like, I was pretty much living in 214 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 5: a party house and getting like fifteen hundred dollars. 215 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 7: He's the dude that Nipsey was talking about, right, He 216 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 7: was like, Yo, he's the guy who's in school making 217 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 7: more than his teachers. 218 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 4: He's a guy, yo. 219 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 5: But the thing about that is, so it's like a 220 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 5: year and a half into the into the game. I'm 221 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 5: making money on real estate, trying you know, working partying, 222 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 5: and also trying to get my MBA at the same time. 223 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 5: And I'm not taking that city. I'm not taking that 224 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 5: as seriously as I should because I'm making money. So 225 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 5: I roll up, I roll up to class one day 226 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 5: late again, and the teachers just like, hey, mister Bernard, 227 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 5: if there's some place you'd rather be, why don't you 228 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 5: be there? 229 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 4: Right? 230 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 5: And I thought about that the whole time, So you 231 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 5: know how the teachers give you like that break. At 232 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 5: forty five minutes into the class, I left, you know, 233 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 5: I left my bag, my books, all of that. I 234 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 5: just left, you know, got in the car and bounced. 235 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 5: And I didn't officially withdraw nothing like that. I just 236 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 5: I was like, you know what, you're right there, someplace 237 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 5: i'd rather be. 238 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 4: I'd rather I'm gonna do that words of advice. 239 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 5: So that's that's when I made the official decision that 240 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 5: this was my life. 241 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 3: What what? What school did you go to? 242 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 6: Saint John's University? 243 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 5: Okay, you know, like literally my bag, all that other stuff, 244 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 5: it was just still there, still there, nice. 245 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: Nice. So all right, so you so you said, I'm 246 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: and it's using your master's program. 247 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 6: I was trying to get my master's at that time NBA. 248 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, trying to get a master's in business administration. Was 249 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 5: trying to get a management degree because I was working 250 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 5: at Verizon. I was a manager there, so I was 251 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 5: trying to go up the corporate ladder. 252 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 2: So all right, so at that point you quit, did y'all? 253 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: You quit school and you have two properties? 254 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 5: You said that by that time, I had like four properties. 255 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then all right, so now you're just doing 256 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 2: real estate full time at this point. 257 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 5: No, I'm I'm still at Verizon, still doing my thing 258 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 5: at Verizon. 259 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: But you know, tell the truth. 260 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 5: I had to take a step back because I was 261 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 5: gambling at the time too, you know, like I got 262 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 5: this thing right here says never again twelve thirteen oh four. 263 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 5: You know, because I was gambling heavy, so I ended 264 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 5: up those first two cribs. Those first two cribs that 265 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 5: I had, I had to sell them to pay gambling debts. 266 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 3: What was your sports or blackjack? 267 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 6: I'm doing blackjack, I'm doing and dice games. 268 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: People don't realize that gambling is an addiction. I know 269 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: few people that have lost their families, lost homes, lost 270 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 2: their freedom because of gambling. It's not something that's talked 271 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: about enough. I'm gonna talk about drug addiction a lot, alcoholism, 272 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 2: but millions of Americans, people all over the world suffer 273 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: from gambling. 274 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 3: Can you talk about that a little bit? 275 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 5: First of all, you're right, it is an addiction. And 276 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 5: I didn't even respect it as an addiction. I was 277 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 5: just like, looking at It's just something that is something 278 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 5: I did, and I was good. I was making money 279 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 5: when I was making money, but when I was losing, 280 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 5: I was losing money, big money, you know. And I 281 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 5: had tried. I had tried like gamblers Anonymous and all 282 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 5: that other stuff. And I remember going to a gambler's 283 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 5: Anonymous meeting and looking at these dudes telling these stories. 284 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 5: I was like, damn, y ho's a bunch of losers. 285 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 5: You know, I'm not ja, you know. But meanwhile, meanwhile, 286 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 5: I'm like going to Vegas and losing like sixty grand 287 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 5: a pop, going to dice game, going to dice games, 288 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 5: losing like fifteen, fifteen, twenty grand. Your funniest story ever. 289 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 5: Not true, really a funny story. 290 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 3: But I was. 291 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 5: The Linux Lounge back in the Days Hall in Harlem. 292 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 5: One day I found myself in the back room with 293 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 5: the Lentless lounge. My man to me in there, and 294 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 5: I had there was the dice game going on, and 295 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 5: I went down there. Four So I went down there, 296 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 5: and you know, I was with my man, just went 297 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 5: out there and humble. We didn't go there for that, 298 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 5: but we found ourselves back there. And next I was hot, 299 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 5: you know, and I didn't know anybody in that room, 300 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 5: right And next thing, you know, I'm like rolling, rolling, rolling, 301 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 5: and I'm like, I'm up three grand, I'm up five grand, 302 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 5: I'm up ten grand. My man leaves because he's like, yo, 303 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 5: I gotta go. I was just like, nah, I'm hot, 304 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 5: I'm good, I'm staying right. Next thing, you know, I'm 305 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 5: up like fifteen grand and I'm looking around the room. 306 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 5: I don't know nobody in there, and ain't nobody. 307 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 4: Smiling Welcome to New York. 308 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 3: So then I was just like, ill. 309 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 5: Had cool, So dude, start making best. I got three 310 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 5: grand on this. I was like, yo, put your money 311 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 5: on the floor. It's like, nah, I'm good for it. 312 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 3: And so they was live and I hit them with trips. 313 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 4: For their money. 314 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 5: Paul this, No, No, that's not how That's not how 315 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 5: it all. So dudes was just the ass betting, like 316 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 5: because they. 317 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: Knew I was by myself, what are you gonna do? 318 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 5: What I'm not going to do is so, so I 319 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 5: basically had to give every dollar back to walk out 320 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 5: of there. 321 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: So you knew that they was asked anybody's not familiar. 322 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: That's when somebody's betting with no intentions of actually paying 323 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: with their betting. So psychologically you knew you had a 324 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: decision to make either you call their bluff and like, okay, 325 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: I'm leaving. You know that they're not going to pay you. 326 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: You're in Harllow, You're from Queens. 327 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 6: From Brooklyn, but living in Queens. 328 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 3: A long way from home. 329 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 6: And this is this is nineteen ninety something. 330 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 5: Dangerous, not gentrified, different. 331 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: Magic psychologically, it was like, to just keep it respectful, 332 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: I'll lose the money. I'll play until I just lose. 333 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: So I don't just have to make this awkward situation. 334 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: I could just at least I could just not get 335 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: killed out here, exactly. 336 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 5: I could. 337 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 6: I could front like I like, I made a decision. 338 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: That that's calculated decision. That's a calculator. You calculated it 339 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: very well, you know. 340 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 5: But it's the same calculated decisions that you make every 341 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 5: day in real estate, you know what I'm saying, Like 342 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 5: all the time, it's like do I take this l 343 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 5: right here and live to fight another day or do 344 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 5: I keep going mm hmm. 345 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: So at what point do you do you really hit 346 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: your stride in real estate and kind of like hit. 347 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: It out the park. 348 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 5: So again, I always say, I came into this game 349 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 5: one hundred grand strong. I had a crib in Rosedale, 350 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 5: the crib where I lived with my boys queens exactly. 351 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 5: So I pulled one hundred grand out of that. And 352 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 5: you know, like whenever cats get some real doe what 353 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 5: they want to do. They want to open a bar, 354 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 5: all right, Like I told. 355 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 4: You that was my first barbershop. 356 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 5: Barbershop, wrecord label, laund sneaker Stone. So I was trying 357 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 5: to open I was trying to open up a bar 358 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 5: in downtown Brooklyn, right. So I met this real estate 359 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:18,479 Speaker 5: broker and he he basically was like showing me around, 360 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 5: and then I told him, you know, I let him 361 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 5: know how much money I was holding, and he basically 362 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 5: was like, yo, I have an opportunity for you. 363 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 6: So he brought me to this crib in Clinton. 364 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 9: Hills, right, Jersey, Brooklyn Hills, Brooklyn, and I ended up 365 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 9: buying a Brownstone for like four hundred thousand dollars you know. 366 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 5: You know, ten percent down, ten percent down, forty grand. 367 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 5: So I copped that joint and I ended up copping 368 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 5: the joint next to it, like three or four months 369 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 5: later with the rest of that money. Right, So those 370 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 5: two cribs, I bought one for four hundred, then I 371 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 5: bought the other one for four And this was like 372 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 5: two thousand and three, So this was right before things 373 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 5: started to pop. So within a couple, within a couple 374 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 5: of I would say every every month, like the values 375 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 5: were going up like one hundred grand, one hundred and 376 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 5: fifty grand, two hundred grand up, until like two thousand 377 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 5: and six, two thousand and seven. So by two thousand 378 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 5: and six, those same cribs that I bought for four 379 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 5: hundred grand, four hundred grand turned were worth almost eight 380 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 5: eight hundred and nine hundre thousand dollars. 381 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, and you just get Are you getting rental income 382 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 7: from them? Are some of you flipping? 383 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 5: No at, I didn't get into I didn't get into 384 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 5: the flipping. 385 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 4: Okay, so rental income right now? 386 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is straight rental. So and I still owe 387 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 5: them credits cribs now, you know, so I was taking 388 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,479 Speaker 5: you know, taking home makering lines of credits out and 389 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 5: just buying more and you know, balling out, you know. 390 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 5: So so now this is like two thousand and six, 391 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 5: two thousand and two thousand six, two thousand and seven. 392 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 6: You know, that's when I bought the big crib in Jersey. 393 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 3: Of course I gotta do that. 394 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 6: You know. 395 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: You know, interesting thing about Clinton Hills, you know, interesting 396 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: historical hip hop fact. So the late great Christopher Wallace, 397 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: you know a lot of people think he's from bed Stars. 398 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: He said the love is one from Beeford Stoveson. But 399 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 2: his actual house is on a borderline and technically it's 400 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: in Clinton Hills. 401 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 5: Yes, it's not even it's not even on the borderline 402 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 5: because it's safe. 403 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 3: I try to get him the benefit. 404 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 4: Because you got, you got. 405 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 5: He's like six blocks from bed Stocks. Yeah, little known fact, exactly. 406 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: So, And the New York Posted a did a story 407 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: because you know, you said it's his his mom had 408 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: the one where it's not it's not it was never 409 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: a one room shot. Not sure why he said that, 410 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: but it's a that same apartment right now is is 411 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 2: written for four thousand dollars a month. And The New 412 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: York Posted did a story about it because it's like, 413 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 2: you know, he that became so synonymous because when he 414 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: came out with that song Juicy Juicy, right when he 415 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: was talking about it, he literally chronicled that apartment, and 416 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: that apartment today is literally I think it was like 417 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: forty two It might be like forty two hundred dollars 418 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 2: a month for that same apartment that he used to 419 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: live in back in the nineties. 420 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 3: So it's crazy. 421 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 5: So I'm gonna take you back to a true story 422 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 5: back on Biggie's block. Right, So this is like two 423 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 5: thousand and two thousand and two, two thousand and three again. 424 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 5: I'm on the corner of Saint James and Fulton, you 425 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 5: know that little triangle over there, the same I don't 426 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 5: know if anybody ever saw that like that, that freestyle 427 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 5: Biggie was doing. 428 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, when they had the exactly with the tims on 429 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: with this, they put it in Juicy. 430 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 5: Too, they exactly. So I'm I'm on that corner. This 431 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 5: is before I bought the cribs in Brooklyn. I'm on 432 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 5: that corner rolling dice because that's what I do. So 433 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 5: we're out there, we rolling dice heavy. Like there's like 434 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 5: at least twenty dudes out there, all thugs, you know. 435 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 5: And I was comfortable out there because this is Brooklyn, 436 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 5: Brooklyn exactly. I'm comfortable. 437 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 3: Exactly. 438 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 5: So I'm out there rolling dice heavy and there's a cipher. 439 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 440 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 5: It's like twenty twenty dudes all in the circle, and 441 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 5: the dude just smoking blunts and forty ounces old old 442 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 5: e and Saint I. 443 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 7: And for the people that are under twenty five or 444 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 7: forty ounces an alcoholic beverage. 445 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 5: That will give you cancer. Right, So we're in the cipher, 446 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 5: like and what happens was what happened was the dice 447 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 5: are on the floor, right and right in the middle. 448 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 6: Here comes this this. 449 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 5: White girl who's jogging with her headphones on, who runs 450 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 5: right through. 451 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 6: The cipher, kicks the dice and keeps it moving. 452 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 5: And and what what happened was what I looked around, 453 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 5: was that nobody said anything, but everybody nobody believed what 454 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 5: just happened. And that's when I knew that this was 455 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 5: her neighborhood now, and these were our wires, right, change 456 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 5: your life exactly because I looked at it. I looked 457 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 5: at it, and it's just like yo, she just kept 458 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 5: it moving like no fear in her heart, no nothing 459 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 5: and to do and nobody say nothing to her. 460 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 6: But that's when I knew. That's when I that's when. 461 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 5: I started looking at that area a little differently. You know, 462 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 5: That's when that's when things changed for me over there. 463 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 5: That's when you know I got I got this this 464 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 5: philosophy right that the only way you make money is 465 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 5: when you're able to see things that other people can't see. 466 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 5: So when you see opportunities that other people can't see. Right, 467 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 5: And the other thing I always say is like when 468 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 5: you do things that other people are not willing to 469 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 5: do right. So at that little dice game, it opened 470 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 5: my eyes and I was able to see something. You 471 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. I was able to see change coming. 472 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 5: You know. It's just like like very early in those days, 473 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 5: like I never I never did a marketing analysis, you know, 474 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 5: to check the to check the demographics, to see what 475 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 5: people were making and what what you know, the money 476 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 5: was like in the neighborhood and what was coming. Right. 477 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 5: So what I used to do a poor man's marketing analysis, 478 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 5: which is I would just look to see what what businesses. 479 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 6: Were coming in the neighborhood. Right, So like if I. 480 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 5: Saw if I saw a Starbucks opening up, I was 481 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 5: just like, yo, I need to be around here, because 482 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 5: like it was like copying somebody else's homework because you know, 483 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 5: they did they marketing analysis. 484 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 7: So if they if they felt comfortable enough coming into 485 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 7: this neighborhood, then I should feel comfortable enough to start 486 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 7: investing in this neighborhood exactly. 487 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 3: So when I saw. 488 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 5: I initially, I initially like, you're familiar with Brooklyn, So 489 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 5: it basically like the big money. 490 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 6: Was Fort Green. 491 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 5: Then then the next big money was Clinton Hills, and 492 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 5: then the next big Money was a bad star, right, 493 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 5: so I got in. I got in on on the 494 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 5: Clinton Hill side like when it you know, when it 495 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 5: was still a little there's still a little bit money 496 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 5: to be made, right, So when I saw when I 497 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 5: saw like like these coffee shops and and. 498 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 6: The t store that's on Biggie's block. 499 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 5: Now you know what I'm saying that on the corner 500 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 5: of his block there's a tea store. 501 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 2: The great thing is like people like the New York 502 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: Post is a great article for anybody if they want 503 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 2: to read it. And they was interviewing like the neighbors. 504 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 2: It's like it's like all hipsters and tech people and 505 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 2: they're like, yo, it's hard to even imagine those lyrics 506 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 2: that he rapped about now like on his block like 507 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: it was, it would be hard to imagine that, Like 508 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: this is so far. And I remember even like Fort Green, 509 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: like when I was young, because like when I was young, 510 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 2: I used to play basketball and you know, going to 511 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 2: like Gauchos and Riverside and got the guys from Brooklyn 512 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: and meet gods from Fort Green. And that's the first 513 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 2: time I ever heard about Fort Green and it was different. 514 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 5: You know, who don't get no love for being on 515 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 5: that block? 516 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 3: Who's that? 517 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 5: Who? 518 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 6: Do you know who else was. 519 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 3: On that block? 520 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 5: I don't Saint James. Between Gates and Green chub Rock legend. 521 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: Most people that's his block, right across the street from 522 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: Big got overshadowed. 523 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 3: It's a big shadows, a big shadow. 524 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 5: Exactly, another big man that could rap Rock. 525 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 7: I think that's the first time I heard NOAs when 526 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 7: he was on like back in the Really Game, I 527 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 7: think chub Rock was on the record. I was like, 528 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 7: who's this guy talking about way automatic guns and nuns? 529 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 3: Rock? So all right, so you see the gentrification taking place. 530 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: You have the the moment in the Dice Game where 531 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 2: it's like, and that's a good point that you bring 532 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: up too, because it's like it's unfortunate, but nobody should 533 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: have crime brought a part of it. 534 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 3: Nobody. 535 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 2: But like you see in neighborhoods like we'll commit crime 536 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: against each other all day, where you never commit crime 537 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 2: against anybody that doesn't look like us. Even Nipsey Hustle 538 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 2: said that, like reprogrammed to actually go and train to 539 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: hunt and do violence and disrespect people that look similar 540 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 2: to you. But when you see somebody that looks opposite 541 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: to you. You're not even gonna play around with that 542 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 2: because you're scared really like of repercussions that come with that. 543 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 544 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: The consequences, Yeah, serious consequences. So you saw that happening 545 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 2: in your brain. So you're like, all right, did you 546 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 2: want to just double down? Like now I got to 547 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: actually really double down on my investment strategy and bodies 548 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: property before it too late. 549 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 5: It you know, I it'd be very easy for me 550 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 5: to tell you right now that you know, I had 551 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 5: this master plan and I saw that and this is 552 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 5: how I was going to execute and this is the 553 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 5: plan and this was the road map that. 554 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 6: Got nah Son. 555 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 3: You know, just happened. 556 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 5: It's happening. You're you know, like that's the beauty. Like 557 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 5: when people come on these podcasts, right, everybody chrono you know, 558 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 5: wants to chronological chronological I can't say the word chronologically 559 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 5: chronologically define everything that they did, right, but nobody highlights 560 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 5: all the mistakes and the dumb shit that they did. 561 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 5: And you know what I'm saying, like a lot of 562 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 5: mistakes were made, Like it worked out at some point 563 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 5: I saw it, you know, like in the last ten years, 564 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 5: I've you know, it's been crystal clear. 565 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 6: But I was still trying to figure it out, still 566 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 6: trying to. 567 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 2: What some of the mistakes that you made. Because you're right, 568 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: people can learn. Just like they learned from information, they 569 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 2: can also learn from mistakes. What's some of the biggest 570 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: mistakes that you made? 571 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 5: A lot of the cribs that I sold too early, 572 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 5: sold them too early, like one eighty four I ustill 573 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 5: got the address eighty four Madison, all right, So one 574 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 5: eighty four B Madison. I bought that crib for like 575 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 5: four hundred thousand dollars when it was worth seven hundred 576 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 5: thousand dollars. 577 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 6: And I sold it. 578 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 5: I sold it for nine hundred thousand dollars in a 579 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 5: few months. And at that time I thought I was 580 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 5: like the smartest dude in the world, you know, because 581 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 5: I coppt that joint. And there's a story behind that 582 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 5: joint too. 583 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: Is that the one with the Nate but you brought 584 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 2: it because somebody else wanted it? Can you tell that story? 585 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 2: I think that's good. That's a good strategy. I was 586 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: listening to that. Can you tell that story? 587 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 5: All right? So I have gotten a phone call about 588 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 5: about that one particular property right, that one particular property. 589 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 5: But you know, and just like any other game, just 590 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 5: like you know what other you know what I'm saying, 591 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 5: what other podcasts are doing, and who the players are 592 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 5: and what their targets are. So I knew for a 593 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 5: fact that there was a hasidic dude who owned the 594 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 5: two building the opposite of that building, right, So I 595 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 5: got the phone call on that one, just just random 596 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 5: somebody who knew, you know, somebody, somebody who knew who 597 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 5: knew somebody's auntie or this that the other, blah blah blah. 598 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 5: I got the phone call, so I got I was 599 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 5: able to buy that crib that was worth seven hundred 600 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 5: thousand dollars for for four. 601 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 6: Hundred thousand dollars. 602 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 5: So I bought that crib with no intention of doing 603 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 5: anything with it except to extort the guy who owned. 604 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: The other two the other because he wanted the whole block, 605 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: because he wanted to Plus, it just gives them power, 606 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: you know, like to have monopoly. 607 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 5: You get three in a row, you know, like I'm 608 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 5: still chasing three in a row, like I've got you know, 609 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 5: I got a couple of joints where I got. 610 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 4: You know, two in a row before you get the 611 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 4: hotel exactly. 612 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 5: So I basically use you know, I had no I 613 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 5: had no desire for that building. It was not within 614 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 5: the confine, you know, it's not It wasn't where I 615 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 5: was working at the time. But I got it, didn't 616 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 5: do any work to it, and held it and him 617 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 5: and I just went back and forth for a few 618 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 5: months until he gave me, you know, he gave me 619 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 5: the nine hundred grand. And the thing is, it's not 620 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 5: it might seem as if I turned four hundred and 621 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 5: nine hundred thousand dollars, that's not really the case. I 622 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 5: really turned one hundred thousand dollars into into five hundred 623 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 5: thousand dollars in a few months because although the crib 624 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 5: was was four hundred thousand, I came out of my 625 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 5: pocket twenty percent down, which was eighty thousand plus closing course, 626 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 5: which was you know, one hundred thousand, hundred thousand, which 627 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 5: I put that put that down. But then I sold 628 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 5: it for nine so you know, that five hundred thousand 629 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 5: dollars profit was made with one hundred thousand dollars. So 630 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 5: that is like one of you know, like the best 631 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 5: g moves, like percentage wise, percentage wise, it's like one 632 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 5: of the best percentage in time was probably one of 633 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 5: the best G moves I've made, you know, better than Tesla. 634 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 7: Like, so when I heard you speaking about that, it 635 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 7: was like this, do you have some reasons to buy? 636 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 4: Obviously cash flow is what you were doing equity, so. 637 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 7: That was your chess move. That was your chess move. 638 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 7: Then you said there's some portfolio fits. One thing I 639 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 7: found very interesting it was like, obviously two thousand and 640 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 7: seven affected the real estate game like no other than 641 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 7: our generation. But you kept all your properties by hook 642 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 7: and by crook, Like how did that happen? 643 00:31:53,120 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 5: So first of all, like I literally I literally lost everything, right, So, 644 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 5: like two thousand and six, I was like a hood billionaire, 645 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 5: you know, like I was. I had a network of 646 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 5: three million dollars. You know, three million dollars is like. 647 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 7: A billion dollars a billionaire a fact, yeah, very close 648 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 7: to a billion, right. 649 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 5: So but like when everything, you know, I was over leveraged. 650 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 5: I was spending, you know, I was in, I was in. 651 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 5: I was in the clubs, you know, four thousand dollar 652 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 5: nights like maybe two three times a month, you know, 653 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 5: fifteen hundred dollar nights more than that? 654 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 3: What clubs were you frequency at this time? 655 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 4: So many from Club Cheetah to Club all. 656 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 5: Of that, you know, all of that. I don't know how, 657 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 5: I ain't actually, but I guess all the Black Diamond 658 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 5: parties back in the day and. 659 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 3: China Club, China Club. 660 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 4: A few times. 661 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: I was going to clubs when I was a little kid, 662 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 2: like twelve years old. My brother was a promoter and 663 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 2: I had a fake out and I always looked older 664 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: than I was, So I remember these clubs like all 665 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: of the all of the clubs when I was like 666 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: twelve years old, but that might have been like speed. 667 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 5: Was the Yeah, I was there spending money, you know, 668 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 5: like just just getting caught up. You know what I'm saying. 669 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 4: You were the guy we were watching with our cups. 670 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 5: And just like just like when I you know, later, 671 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 5: I was watching Puff with my cups right right, So 672 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 5: it was just like the same way that promotes, you know, 673 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 5: made me want to go out and do more. Hopefully 674 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,959 Speaker 5: you know other people did that as well. But anyway, 675 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 5: I lost everything by like two thousand and two thousand 676 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 5: and eight, right, and I had a whole bunch of 677 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 5: cribs and every last one of them was just like 678 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 5: underwater because I had pulled too much cash out. You know, 679 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 5: I had I had this big house in Jersey that 680 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 5: I was paying like seven grand a month for. I 681 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 5: think I had like a paint one thousand dollars for. 682 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 5: I had a drop six lease, you know, just everything, 683 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 5: you know. 684 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 4: And. 685 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, the dough dough was you. 686 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 5: Know before before we had Instagram models, we had the 687 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 5: Kse Sleigh models in those magazines. 688 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 689 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, So I had a couple of exactly. 690 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 5: So I had I had a couple of levels on 691 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 5: the payroll, so literally lost you know what I'm. 692 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 3: Saying, literally. 693 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 4: So a couple exactly. 694 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 5: So So after that, I woke up one day and 695 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 5: I was just like, yo, I went from positive three 696 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,720 Speaker 5: million to like negative a million when I did the math, 697 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 5: you know, and I remember but just being in my 698 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 5: crib waiting waiting to have them come, you know, Like 699 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 5: I got. 700 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 6: All the foreclosure notices and stuff. 701 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 5: Like that, and that's when I basically got on ground, 702 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 5: you know, Like I had like probably like forty or 703 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 5: fifty thousand in cash left, and that's when I got 704 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 5: on my grind. And I I really think that I 705 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 5: worked for like for like the next two three years 706 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 5: without a day off, you know, like I was doing everything. 707 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 5: I had stopped gambling by then. I had opened this 708 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 5: thing called Law six seventy six. It was a it 709 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 5: was a studio like and I used to rent that 710 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 5: out and actually there would have been there would be 711 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 5: no Brooklyn Bank without Law six seventy six because I was, 712 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 5: you know, having parties in there and stuff like that, 713 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 5: and it was an event space. 714 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 6: So I did that for a while. 715 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 5: I ended up going to going to India getting a 716 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 5: hair connected and I started a hair company weaves. Yeah. Yeah, 717 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 5: like I had the number three. I had the number 718 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 5: three hair Indian hair company in New York City for 719 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 5: like a year or two. 720 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 4: Well known fact. 721 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 6: Select strands, selectans exactly. So I was doing that. 722 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 5: I was. I had a I had a card game going. 723 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 5: You know, I had a card even though I wasn't gambling, 724 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 5: but I knew, I knew the general gamblers. So I 725 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 5: was just like, yo, I this card game going. 726 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 7: You know, so folks, yo, yo, what's up? Yeah, yeah, 727 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 7: I about to run this game ya playing? Just bring 728 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 7: your money exactly. 729 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 3: Okay, So you just had to do what you had 730 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 3: to do is just get back with and you kept 731 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 3: them all. 732 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 2: You kept but you were able to keep your properties 733 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 2: by doing all these side hustles, all. 734 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 5: These sizes, twenty four hours a day. I was i 735 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 5: Airbnb in my crib. 736 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 4: This is the early stages. 737 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's when it was called home away and vrbo, 738 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 5: you know all that other stuff. So I was doing that, 739 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 5: you know, like letting people stay in my crib like 740 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 5: five hundred dollars a night while I was sleeping on 741 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 5: a friend's couch. 742 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 3: You know, you gotta do what you gotta do. 743 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 6: Did what I had to do. 744 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 2: And then you survived. Let me ask you this as 745 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 2: far as the helock, let's bring it back. You spoke 746 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 2: about the helock, and we spoked about helocks before a 747 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 2: little bit. But you want to talk about helocks a 748 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 2: little bit, like the benefits of it and maybe like 749 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 2: some things that people may be aware of. There's a 750 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 2: home equity line of credit, right, different from a refine. 751 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 752 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 5: No, So so basically you take a helock when you 753 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 5: have some equity in the property, and it's it's either 754 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 5: a secondary lian or it could be a primary line 755 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 5: depending on how much on how much equity you have, 756 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 5: and it's like it's basically like a credit card. 757 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 6: Or checking account on your CRIB. 758 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 5: So you're not paying interest when you're not paying interest 759 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 5: when you don't owe them any money. But when you 760 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 5: take the money out, you're paying interest on it. So 761 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 5: it's like, so let's say you have a CRIB and 762 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 5: it's worth a million, and. 763 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 6: You have half half a. 764 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 5: Million on your mortgage, right, and so now you could 765 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 5: take up to eighty percent on the helock. So that's 766 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 5: three hundred thousand dollars a home aquer line of credits. 767 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 5: So you you have a lean on your property for 768 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 5: three hundred thousand on that helock. But unless you're using it, 769 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 5: unless you're using the whole thing. 770 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 3: You don't have to pay. 771 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 2: And that's the good thing as far for mindersating, correct 772 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong, as far as like with the REFI, 773 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 2: it's essentially like a second mortgage on your home exactly, 774 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 2: and you have to pay the interest no matter what 775 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 2: interest and principle. 776 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 3: Interest in principal, no matter what. 777 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 2: But you get the money where the home equity line 778 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 2: of credit, you take the. 779 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 3: Money out as you need it, as you need it. 780 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 3: It's just available to you exactly. 781 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 7: So are the interest rates high? 782 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 5: The interest rates are typically around what what what the 783 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 5: regular regular thing is, what what you normally save on 784 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 5: is the closing course, because there's typically exactly so with 785 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 5: with the homemaker line of credit. You always gott to 786 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 5: just do the math on all right, I'm gonna be 787 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 5: paying this much interest on it. I'm gonna be paying 788 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:31,240 Speaker 5: this much interest on it, and and if I, if I, 789 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 5: if I make a decision, it has to cover this 790 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 5: interest plus make me more, you know, Like earlier this year, 791 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,280 Speaker 5: I took out, I banged o all my I banged 792 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 5: got all my helocks because I didn't want them to. 793 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 2: Cancel it when you couldn't get it. That's something that yeah, 794 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 2: MG Matt had said that before. He said that before COVID. 795 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 2: He was like, yo, yeah, He's like, you know, take 796 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 2: it out, yeah, because it's like monopoly money, like if 797 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 2: the value of your home goes down, and that's going 798 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 2: to affect your refine and your your helocks. So it's 799 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 2: like he said that, like co COVID, you never know, 800 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 2: they can just it's not like it's guaranteed they can 801 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 2: cancel it. So it's like you don't need to use it, 802 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 2: you don't have to use it, but at least you 803 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 2: have it locked in and then if you need to 804 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 2: use it, it's available now. 805 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 4: That literally happened. 806 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 7: I went to the bank in January because I was 807 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 7: going to refile, and I hit mad. I'm like, yo, 808 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 7: run me some numbers on the refile and I'll run 809 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 7: me some numbers for the helock. And I went back 810 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 7: to the bank in March, helock wasn't available anymore. 811 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, oh damn. 812 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 5: So so back in March, I had like a million 813 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,479 Speaker 5: in changing helocks and I pulled it all out because 814 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,919 Speaker 5: I was just scared, like I didn't want to wake 815 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 5: up one day, because that happened to me back in 816 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 5: two thousand and seven where I woke up one day 817 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 5: and my heelock or my helocks were gone. So I 818 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 5: took this cash out, but I just I didn't want 819 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 5: to just sit with it in the bank, So I 820 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 5: ended up putting it in the market at that time 821 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 5: when the market was at this lowest in March. 822 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 2: In March, you put a million dollars in the market. Yeah, 823 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 2: and what stock did you put it in? 824 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 5: Amazon? Tesla? 825 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 3: Apple? 826 00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 5: Nah, Amazon Tesla? 827 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 8: This V G T G T talk about that A 828 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 8: lot of this alum v F. 829 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 5: I A X which is a Vanguard, which is a vanguard, 830 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 5: t ts Ian which is a Chinese, which is a 831 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 5: Chinese one. 832 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 6: Why I double n that one? They make me no 833 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 6: real money. 834 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 5: And I put it baba. Yeah, I didn't make no 835 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 5: real money on that, like because I got that in 836 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 5: about two hundred and it's like two fifty now. 837 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 4: But that test is a little different, yeah, hit a 838 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 4: little different. 839 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 3: So you so you so all right? 840 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 2: This is just important for people to understand because it's 841 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 2: like you always got a plan for worst case scenario, 842 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 2: so when you saw them, it's like, all right, COVID 843 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 2: is hitting this about to get crazy. 844 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 3: Don't panic. 845 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 2: Let me let me gather this much money as money 846 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 2: as I possibly came out of my house before they 847 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 2: shut this he locked in. 848 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 7: This episode is brought to you by pn C Bank. 849 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 7: A lot of people think podcasts about work are boring, 850 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 7: and sure, they definitely can be, but understanding a professional's 851 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 7: routine shows us how they achieve their success little by little, 852 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 7: day after day. 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You say? 897 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:48,760 Speaker 5: Okay? 898 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 2: Stock market crashed literally crashed, and probably a good time 899 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 2: to put money in the market might be abotto, you 900 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,919 Speaker 2: put it in at a low point. 901 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 3: Guy rockets. Over the next couple of months, what did 902 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 3: that million turn into? 903 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 7: He said, my CPA, it might advise me not to 904 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 7: I mean, well, how about this, how about this? 905 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 4: How about this? Not what it turned into? 906 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 7: How did you allocate the million equally throughout those assets? 907 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 5: No? 908 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 7: Oh, you just dumb, like, yeah, I'm putting one hundred 909 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 7: thousand in Tesla. 910 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 5: Tesla, Tesla, mad At Tesla because I only put I 911 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 5: only put like, I think, like fifty grand in Tesla. Okay, 912 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 5: you know, like and I had put I put like 913 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 5: half a million. I put like half a million in 914 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 5: Amazon Amazon, right, and that that one. 915 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 4: Did well, that did great. But I'm just I'm running 916 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 4: the numbers. 917 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 7: But if that half a million would have been in 918 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,800 Speaker 7: Tesla after it ran up to like fourteen hundred, then split. 919 00:45:53,960 --> 00:46:01,320 Speaker 5: I know, I know, I know, But what can you do? 920 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 4: Money? 921 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 5: Part of the game, part of the game that I've 922 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 5: that I've learned is you know, you got to keep 923 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,439 Speaker 5: looking forward the next thing, and you know, like there's 924 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 5: always opportunities and you'll never you'll never ever. 925 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 6: Get all of them. 926 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 5: It's impossible, exactly. Like you you know, there's a you 927 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 5: got a handful, you know what I'm saying, and you, 928 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 5: you know, to pick something up, you always have to, 929 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 5: you know, let something go to pick something up. So 930 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 5: you're hoping that what you're picking up is greater than 931 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 5: what you're letting go. 932 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,840 Speaker 3: And you leverage a lot of time, people say like 933 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 3: which one is it better? In real estate? Stocks? But 934 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,359 Speaker 3: you leveraged both that you could do both. 935 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 2: You could you leverage your real estate to put money 936 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 2: in stocks, and then you could take the money out 937 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,839 Speaker 2: of stocks and buy the more real estate. And it's 938 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 2: like it's a combination. It's a one two punch. It's 939 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 2: not like only do real estate, it's one of the 940 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 2: only do stocks. And that's a perfect example. You leverage 941 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 2: money in real estate, put it in the stock market, 942 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 2: made a bunch of money in the stock market, and 943 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 2: then you know, yeah. 944 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 5: So like things kind of cooled off, like Amazon is 945 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,959 Speaker 5: cooled off, like I've been I've been waiting. 946 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 3: I'm just like, yo, come on, come on, four thousands, 947 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 3: come back to the game. 948 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 5: What happens hard exactly, But we're stuck at that thirty two, y'all, 949 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:10,879 Speaker 5: like we've been stuck at. 950 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 4: I mean three months. 951 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 7: This is the season though, this is the season for Amazon, 952 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 7: so you know, sit, let's let's talk about s R 953 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 7: s ROS. 954 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was actually going the s ROS because you 955 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 2: got an interesting story about that. 956 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 3: What is an s R First and foremast. 957 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 5: Single room occupancy in New York City where it's a 958 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 5: Class B apartment. So it's not it's not like the 959 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 5: Class A apartment. Like there's a lot of rules and 960 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 5: regulations that the city, the city pretty much comes down 961 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 5: and tells you what you can do, what you can't do. 962 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 5: The HPD house, the Housing Preservation Department tells you all 963 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,800 Speaker 5: the things you can and can't do with your s RO. 964 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 5: It initially, the the s R program was initially a 965 00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 5: program for for like the the the do who came 966 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,359 Speaker 5: back from war so they could have a safe place 967 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 5: to stay and stuff like that. And over the years, 968 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 5: you know, like you know, the city is mad late 969 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 5: to always change these old things. So all these old 970 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 5: rules still apply. 971 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,840 Speaker 4: So the Class A and what SRO is the difference? 972 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:21,280 Speaker 4: What are some of the differences. 973 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 7: Is it like it has to have a full bathroom 974 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,800 Speaker 7: or have bathroom some of the differences. 975 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 5: Well, an apartment, an apartment, you need a bedroom and 976 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,360 Speaker 5: bathroom in the kitchen. In a class a apartment, in 977 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 5: a in an sro, you need you need a bedroom 978 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 5: and you need access to a bathroom and access to 979 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 5: a kitchen. 980 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 4: Okay, you know what I'm saying. 981 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 6: So you don't you. 982 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 5: Don't necessarily have to have a have your your bathroom 983 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 5: and your kitchen in your unit. 984 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 7: So this feels like almost like college dormage exactly. Okay, 985 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 7: So it's like we could have the we could have 986 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 7: a quad with bedrooms and shared bathroom, share. 987 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 5: A single room occupancy. So and the thing about it, 988 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 5: so now, over the last few over the last decade, 989 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 5: you know, like when when the market has gone crazy 990 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 5: and and and you know, the values of these brownstones 991 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 5: and buildings and. 992 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 6: Stuff like that. 993 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 5: Skyrocketed, the city has put things in the place to protect, 994 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 5: to protect the people, protect the tenants. 995 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 6: Because we're living in a blue state. 996 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 5: State, you know, out out in Texas, California, I mean Texas, 997 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 5: Arizona and stuff like that. Florida, Arizona's blue now, but 998 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 5: typically the red states, you don't pay your rent, gotta 999 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 5: go right, But you know, New York is not. It's 1000 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 5: not that type of place, its not that type of party. 1001 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,359 Speaker 5: So there's a lot of laws that protect them. So 1002 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 5: one of the things that protects s ros right now 1003 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 5: is something that they call a certifically non harassment, whereas 1004 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:09,319 Speaker 5: if if you before, before you can convert an SRO 1005 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 5: into a class A apartment or into a house or 1006 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 5: anything like that, you have to get a certificate non 1007 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 5: harassment where you know, HPD does an investigation to find 1008 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 5: out if the tenants were harassed on their way out 1009 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 5: or anything like that, and if that, if that's the case, 1010 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 5: if that's the case, you're pretty much stuck. You're pretty 1011 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 5: much stuck because they'll put like a three year a 1012 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,320 Speaker 5: three year penalty on you before you could apply again. 1013 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 5: So I purchased, I purchased an SRO and a building, 1014 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 5: right yeah, I pursed an sroh and the the tenants, 1015 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 5: you know, thought that they were doing the sella dirty 1016 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 5: by telling HPD that they were. 1017 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 6: Harassed and sell don't care. 1018 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 5: Sell it got their money, so they put that three 1019 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 5: year you know, that three year ban on me. Oh 1020 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 5: so I basically paid this, you know, I paid a 1021 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,720 Speaker 5: million plus for a Brownstone and I can't do anything 1022 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 5: with it. 1023 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 6: I couldn't do anything with it for three years. 1024 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 5: So I'm just sitting on this thing, paying hard money 1025 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 5: on it, paying hard money on it until September of 1026 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 5: twenty twenty one. 1027 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 4: That's when you could maybe do renovations. 1028 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,799 Speaker 5: To it, renovated, flip it, do whatever it is. 1029 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 7: It going to be more lucrative because I'm thinking, let's 1030 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm sure there's like a square footage requirement 1031 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 7: that needs that they need to have for the SRO, 1032 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 7: and so I'm thinking like maybe an apartment that you 1033 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:44,840 Speaker 7: could get twelve hundred for. 1034 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,359 Speaker 5: Right I can't do anything like I can't bring more 1035 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 5: people in because if I bring people into rent it now, 1036 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 5: I'm risking in twenty two. 1037 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, but. 1038 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 5: I don't like where the money's at in New York 1039 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,399 Speaker 5: City right now is getting these stones and converting them 1040 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:08,319 Speaker 5: into luxury you know, luxury town homes where where you 1041 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 5: know people could people spend big money on them. So 1042 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 5: I could turn around and sell it for three and 1043 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 5: a half four million dollars. 1044 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 7: Yes, you're not leave looking for the rental income of 1045 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 7: more units, looking for the like yo, somebody's coming in 1046 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 7: to buy this for one point one exactly. 1047 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 5: Okay, well, no, somebody's coming to buy somebody's coming to 1048 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 5: buy this for four. 1049 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,879 Speaker 4: Million, four million. I'm sorry, what was I talking about? 1050 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:26,359 Speaker 3: One point one? 1051 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 5: No, No, one point one is what I paid for it. 1052 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 5: So now I'm sitting here and I'm paying, you know, 1053 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,399 Speaker 5: like ten ten grand a month, ten grand a month 1054 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,359 Speaker 5: on a property that I can't do nothing. 1055 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,839 Speaker 3: With, you know. 1056 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,400 Speaker 5: But it's a it's a you know, it's it's a 1057 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 5: decision I'm that I'm making. I'm saying, all right, I'm paying. 1058 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:50,920 Speaker 5: I'm losing ten grand a month, but I'm losing ten 1059 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,719 Speaker 5: grand a month, but I know when the time comes, 1060 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,880 Speaker 5: I'll be able to sell this for four million. 1061 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 4: So it's just another version of your chest move exactly right. 1062 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 3: But as the taxes the tax laws, well yeah. 1063 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,479 Speaker 5: So so now i'm paying interest. So that's one hundred 1064 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 5: and twenty grand and interest that I'm paying every every year. 1065 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 5: So if I sell a property, if I if I 1066 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 5: sold the property, or or if if I if I 1067 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 5: sold if I sold my Amazon stock, so instead of 1068 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 5: paying capital gains on X, it'll be X minus one 1069 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:22,760 Speaker 5: twenty thousand. 1070 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,360 Speaker 2: So because you're taking loss and you're depreciating the assets 1071 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 2: exactly because you're losing money on it. 1072 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 5: I'm losing money on I'm losing money on this end. 1073 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 5: Well not even losing money. It's a business expense. So 1074 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,320 Speaker 5: you know, you're you're taking your deduction from your business 1075 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 5: expense and so that brings that brings your taxable income down, 1076 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 5: which it's what keeps what keeps money in your pocket. 1077 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 7: So in the real estate game, you wear many hats, yes, 1078 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 7: and that obviously has happened over time. Right, So your 1079 00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,719 Speaker 7: initial one was you're the landlord. Yes, So at some 1080 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 7: point you decide to become the developer, then you become 1081 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 7: the broker, and then you also become the contractor. 1082 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:03,759 Speaker 4: What was that process what led to you? 1083 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 5: And at one part I was a mortgage broker like 1084 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 5: a man Matt. 1085 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 7: So what was the thought process that inspires you to say, 1086 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 7: you know what, I can do this, I can do this. 1087 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 5: Let me do this too, just just trying to keep 1088 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 5: it as much money in house as possible, you know, 1089 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 5: like once you get the team together, you get the 1090 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,319 Speaker 5: team and everybody's working, you know, for the common goal. Uh, 1091 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,919 Speaker 5: it doesn't make it doesn't make sense to to pay 1092 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 5: somebody to do something that you could do yourself. It's 1093 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:39,360 Speaker 5: it's cheaper, you know. And and the more people you 1094 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 5: the more people you interact with and you connect with 1095 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,840 Speaker 5: on different levels, the more opportunities that come come about. 1096 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 5: So and it also gives me a better way to 1097 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 5: look at every opportunity because now when I when I 1098 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 5: come to you, like when I when an opportunity presents itself, 1099 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,600 Speaker 5: am I am I going to try to Am I 1100 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 5: going to try to sell this for you? Or am 1101 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 5: I going to try to buy it for myself? Am 1102 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:07,800 Speaker 5: I going to sell it for you as a broker? 1103 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:12,880 Speaker 5: Am I going to try to buy it? Buy it 1104 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 5: for myself? As a developer? Am I going to say, hey, 1105 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 5: I'll tell you what you could buy it, but I'll 1106 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,960 Speaker 5: be the contractor for you. You know, I could bring 1107 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 5: it to you and say, yo, I got this great 1108 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,360 Speaker 5: opportunity for you. 1109 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 6: You should buy this building and let me fix it. 1110 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 5: You know. So it's just different, you know, like different 1111 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 5: ways to make money. 1112 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 7: Every time you saw another position, it was like cut 1113 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 7: the middle man, cut the middle man, cut the middle man. 1114 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 5: And it's more opportunities, more opportunities, more opportunities. And like 1115 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 5: each each hat that I wear, I have a whole network, 1116 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 5: and so I'm talking to people and I'm you know, 1117 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 5: that's where the opportunities come from. You know, Like in 1118 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 5: the last twenty something years, I could probably you know, 1119 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,279 Speaker 5: I've done a hundred million dollars in transaction, and I 1120 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,359 Speaker 5: could probably tell you that only two times that I've 1121 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,240 Speaker 5: ever purchased something that didn't come from a direct connect, 1122 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 5: you know, like somebody called me and said, hey, Jude, 1123 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 5: I got a deal for you. You know, wait for 1124 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,440 Speaker 5: my pitch. That's my that's my line. You know, I 1125 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 5: always wait for my pitch. Like if if it's on 1126 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,080 Speaker 5: Street Easy, if it's on if it's on the MLS 1127 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,439 Speaker 5: and stuff like that, and everybody else can see it, it 1128 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 5: ain't my deal. 1129 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 2: So at this point, are most of your deals what 1130 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 2: kind of financing? Are you cash or are you doing 1131 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:30,760 Speaker 2: traditional financing? 1132 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 3: Hard money? How are you financing your deals? 1133 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 5: Whatever makes sense, you know, like if if it's say 1134 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:42,799 Speaker 5: like I always do the math, right, So if it 1135 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,920 Speaker 5: makes if it makes sense for me to use cash, 1136 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,839 Speaker 5: I'll use cash. If there's enough, if there's enough meat 1137 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:54,439 Speaker 5: on it where I can can use hard money, I'll. 1138 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:55,680 Speaker 6: Use hard money. 1139 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 5: You know, if if if time is not a big deal, 1140 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,279 Speaker 5: and I can go get traditional financing and it'll you know, 1141 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,839 Speaker 5: like this is a house that's gonna praise and and 1142 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 5: there's a kitchen in the bath and all that other stuff, 1143 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:08,600 Speaker 5: and and I. 1144 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 6: Could go to a you know, to go. 1145 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,919 Speaker 5: To Chase or somebody like that. I'll do that. Those 1146 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 5: are those are my favorites, you know. But most of 1147 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 5: the time, when there's deals and opportunities, there's usually a 1148 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 5: reason why you're getting a deal and an opportunity. And 1149 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 5: nine ten times is that that it's it's a deal 1150 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:32,920 Speaker 5: because traditional financing won't do it. So you're either stuck. 1151 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 5: You have a decision to make. You're either gonna use 1152 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 5: hard money guy, you're gonna use your cash, or or 1153 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,000 Speaker 5: a mixture. What I like to do is I like 1154 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 5: to take investors where where let's say the hard money 1155 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 5: the hard money guy is giving me eighty percent eighty percent, 1156 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 5: and I'll take a couple of investors that that give me, 1157 00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 5: that give me the give me the twenty percent. So 1158 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 5: I'm literally just coming out of my pocket. Nothing just 1159 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 5: you know, everything is all sweat equity. 1160 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 7: So yeah, Rick Ross is famous for having three seeds 1161 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,440 Speaker 7: right color clarity. 1162 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 4: That's that's his thing. 1163 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 7: But you have an interesting analogy for your four seas 1164 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,960 Speaker 7: and real estate and while they're important, can you go 1165 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 7: over it? So you had credit, collateral, connects, and character 1166 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 7: why they're all important? 1167 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 5: Credit? You know, like like if the banks, if the 1168 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 5: banks ain't messing with you, you're dead in the water. You know, 1169 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 5: like you need that money. You know, you need your credit. 1170 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,440 Speaker 5: It's like one of your most valuable assets. You know 1171 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:48,000 Speaker 5: you're able to leverage, right, m Collateral you need either 1172 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 5: cash or something you need. 1173 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:51,919 Speaker 6: You need to be able to. 1174 00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 5: Prove that you have a track record, you have you 1175 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 5: have skin in the game. You know, like I had 1176 00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:03,960 Speaker 5: lost I've lost money in business dealings where I was 1177 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:05,160 Speaker 5: messing with people who didn't. 1178 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 6: Have any skin in the game, so they just walk away. 1179 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,440 Speaker 5: So it's very important that that you have skin in 1180 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:19,360 Speaker 5: the game. What's the credit cash connects? Like, it's not 1181 00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 5: it's not it's not bs when they say your network 1182 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 5: is your network, you know, it's just like the more 1183 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,000 Speaker 5: people you know, the more people, the more the more deals, 1184 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 5: the more opportunities, the more things that come your way. Right, 1185 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,960 Speaker 5: That's like to me, that's the most important thing. Your connects. 1186 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 5: You know, your ability, your ability to get it done, 1187 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 5: your ability to know who you could call, uh, the 1188 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 5: the resources that come to you, and so forth. And 1189 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:53,640 Speaker 5: the last one is your character. If if your name 1190 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 5: is mud, you're dead. You know, like streets talk, you know, 1191 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,680 Speaker 5: you think chicks pillar talk. Like in business, everybody talking. 1192 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 5: So you do one person dirty, everybody's gonna know, anybody 1193 01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,560 Speaker 5: gonna mess with you. Like one of the things I'm 1194 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 5: really proud of is that I've been in this game 1195 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,760 Speaker 5: twenty plus years. Like I've never I've never jerked anybody 1196 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,680 Speaker 5: on a deal. I've never lied to anybody. I've never 1197 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:22,240 Speaker 5: I've never taken anything that that didn't belong to me. 1198 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:28,080 Speaker 5: And I could even say I've never lost anybody money. Well, 1199 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,800 Speaker 5: I lost one person money, but I made it back 1200 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:34,720 Speaker 5: for him. But like there's been times. There's been times 1201 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 5: like I've had investors invest in something and I promised 1202 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 5: them a return and it didn't happen, and you know. 1203 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 6: I paid out. 1204 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 5: I paid out like like it did, like everything went 1205 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 5: cool because I didn't want to burn that bridge, you know, like, 1206 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 5: oh yo, reinvested in this, You're gonna make excel, You're 1207 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,920 Speaker 5: gonna make X out of this. You know, and I'd 1208 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,439 Speaker 5: rather pay him that, knowing that I could go back 1209 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 5: to him one day then come back. Yo, it didn't 1210 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:01,200 Speaker 5: work out. 1211 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 7: Yo, you know what I'm saying, it's not gonna be 1212 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 7: worth Yeah, yeah, Rick. 1213 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,480 Speaker 3: I think that's Carol City cartel. If I'm not, I know. 1214 01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,400 Speaker 4: But then he says, I mean when you're talking about diamonds. 1215 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,720 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this as far as the because 1216 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,480 Speaker 2: you're a developer, landlord, you're a broker, contractor. 1217 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,360 Speaker 3: So how important is it. 1218 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 2: For people to learn all aspects of real estate? Or 1219 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:31,760 Speaker 2: do you think it is important for people to learn 1220 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:32,919 Speaker 2: all aspects of real estate? 1221 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 4: You know? 1222 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:40,160 Speaker 5: Back when I when I was doing here, right, I 1223 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:45,120 Speaker 5: went to India. I went to India and I learned How. 1224 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:45,720 Speaker 3: Did you get to India? 1225 01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:46,080 Speaker 5: Yo? 1226 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,400 Speaker 7: In my mind, I want in my mind, all I 1227 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 7: can think about is American gangs? 1228 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:51,760 Speaker 4: How Vietnam? 1229 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 3: How did you go to India to get to get here? 1230 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:54,720 Speaker 3: How did that happen? All? 1231 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:55,000 Speaker 4: Right? 1232 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 5: So I told you things were really bad. So things 1233 01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:59,840 Speaker 5: are really bad. So what do you do when things 1234 01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 5: are be bad? You know, you have a big ass 1235 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:03,960 Speaker 5: party at your house. 1236 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:06,320 Speaker 3: That's an option. 1237 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,240 Speaker 4: So remember that was my next guest. 1238 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,520 Speaker 5: Remember I still had this big ass house and you know, 1239 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:12,280 Speaker 5: out in Jersey. 1240 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so as well, why not if you lose it, 1241 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:15,920 Speaker 2: at least you have some good memory. 1242 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 5: Exactly. So I have this pool party, like two hundred 1243 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 5: people at my crib, this, that, the other people in 1244 01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,200 Speaker 5: the pool, this, that, and the next day editions straight stunting. 1245 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,880 Speaker 5: The next day I'm cleaning filters out and I'm pulling. 1246 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,600 Speaker 3: Out hair, hair all over, right. 1247 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,560 Speaker 6: And I'm just like, yo, who did this? 1248 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,320 Speaker 5: Right? So so I'm not I'm not looking at the 1249 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,640 Speaker 5: pictures to figure out what what girl left? 1250 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 4: What I had? 1251 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:47,880 Speaker 5: What girl, you know, shedding, shedding my hold? And then 1252 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,200 Speaker 5: I realized it wasn't one girl. 1253 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,080 Speaker 3: It was a whole collection, every girl in it. 1254 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,480 Speaker 5: I was just like, Yo, that's where the money is at. 1255 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:59,600 Speaker 4: Shout out to all women who just spey, thank you. 1256 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:04,840 Speaker 5: Thank you, saved your life, saved my life. But so 1257 01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 5: I ended up like doing a little bit research about this. 1258 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,440 Speaker 5: And this was around the time Chris Rock had that 1259 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:12,200 Speaker 5: good hair thing. 1260 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1261 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 5: And then so I'm trying, like the internet wasn't popping 1262 01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,479 Speaker 5: popping like it is right now, like you could get 1263 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 5: anything like like that no matter. So I literally had 1264 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 5: to go to India to get me a connect, to 1265 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,680 Speaker 5: get me a good connector, U was, I basically have 1266 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:33,280 Speaker 5: to buy retail and and pretty much make a small margin. 1267 01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,680 Speaker 2: So sight unseen, you just went to India and just 1268 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,440 Speaker 2: like figure it out when you get there. Where'd you 1269 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,120 Speaker 2: go to? And I hair capital of the world, the 1270 01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,720 Speaker 2: hair capital of the world. Yeah, you got to meet 1271 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:48,400 Speaker 2: somebody there and they speak English, Yeah, pretty much, they 1272 01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:48,960 Speaker 2: speak English. 1273 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:55,000 Speaker 5: Okay, So I got the So I basically got the 1274 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,080 Speaker 5: connect got a couple of connectors. 1275 01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 4: Like Frank Lucas I'm thinking going to be. 1276 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:05,200 Speaker 5: So I go out there and you know, I started 1277 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,960 Speaker 5: buying it. I started buying from somebody and and that 1278 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,360 Speaker 5: didn't work out, and bought from somebody else, you know, 1279 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,520 Speaker 5: until you know, like you know, my first shipment was 1280 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:14,720 Speaker 5: always great. 1281 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:15,959 Speaker 6: And then I sent you know what I'm saying. 1282 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,320 Speaker 5: I sent I had a first ship for like, you know, 1283 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,280 Speaker 5: ten keys or something like that, right, and that's. 1284 01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 6: Great, all right? 1285 01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,160 Speaker 5: And then so I was just like, all right, send 1286 01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 5: me over fifty keys. 1287 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,520 Speaker 4: Right, that's right, fifty keys of bundles. 1288 01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 5: Fifty keys of bundles. They coming in four package. 1289 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:40,880 Speaker 7: When we titled this please fifty keys of bundles. 1290 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 3: So that over you. 1291 01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:41,160 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1292 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,560 Speaker 5: So so what ended up happening was like when I 1293 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:47,000 Speaker 5: bought the fifty keys, it was just like it was 1294 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 5: like five keys was good and it was like forty 1295 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,680 Speaker 5: five keys of garbage tongue. 1296 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,480 Speaker 3: It wasn't getting no, Yeah, they sold they sold you. 1297 01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,560 Speaker 2: A bad product exactly. So we got screwed over in India 1298 01:04:58,520 --> 01:04:59,200 Speaker 2: a few times. 1299 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:06,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, personally, habitually yeah, habit app Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1300 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,680 Speaker 2: We started, we did, We did an app and this 1301 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 2: guy completely screwed us over, ran us for like twenty. 1302 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,200 Speaker 3: Thousand, thirty there was it, thirty thirty bands. 1303 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:19,040 Speaker 2: Then we hired another Indian to go fly from his 1304 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 2: part of India to the other part of India. 1305 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, he screwed us over and. 1306 01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,200 Speaker 4: Then they went on holiday for three weeks. 1307 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:27,280 Speaker 3: A lot of money in India. 1308 01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,560 Speaker 5: He was on he was on Zoom calls with him FaceTime. 1309 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,720 Speaker 2: What'sapp, Like what'sapp calls at like one o'clock in the 1310 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,480 Speaker 2: morning because it's like, you know, one o'clock in the 1311 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:42,120 Speaker 2: afternoon over there, and they acting like they don't really 1312 01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 2: speak English. 1313 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:43,720 Speaker 3: Good, it was a whole. 1314 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 5: Ordeal when they want to Yeah, yeah, it's tough. 1315 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,880 Speaker 2: We should have called you man, it's now, it's real, 1316 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 2: and it's like all of these stories bring back so 1317 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 2: many memories because it's like I always say, hustling isn't 1318 01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,920 Speaker 2: a hobby. If you're an entrepreneur, you got to get 1319 01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,480 Speaker 2: the job done by any means necessary. And it's like 1320 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:03,600 Speaker 2: even what us like dealing with merchant Pakistan and like 1321 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,840 Speaker 2: we interviewed Derek Grayson. His thing was in China and 1322 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,160 Speaker 2: you gotta wire these people money and you're like hoping 1323 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,840 Speaker 2: they don't screw you over. And it's like people don't 1324 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,880 Speaker 2: understand like this is these are real stories, like this 1325 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:14,760 Speaker 2: really happens. 1326 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,360 Speaker 3: And really it really can run off with them, Yo, 1327 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,400 Speaker 3: what can you do nothing on the plane? 1328 01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:21,960 Speaker 5: You know? One of the one of my my best 1329 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,920 Speaker 5: flips ever was I had gotten a call. It was 1330 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:30,680 Speaker 5: like maybe two thousand and two thousand and ten, like 1331 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,880 Speaker 5: my man, my man in my man somewhere, ain't gonna 1332 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,200 Speaker 5: say where caught me up. He was working at the 1333 01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:41,320 Speaker 5: dock someplace and he had a container container full of 1334 01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,840 Speaker 5: toilet paper. Right He's like, yo, I get I get 1335 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:49,280 Speaker 5: you this container for like literally a container for for 1336 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,600 Speaker 5: like for like twenty five hundred. It's like something in 1337 01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:56,400 Speaker 5: the system where the like like he's like, Yo, I've 1338 01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,480 Speaker 5: been watching I've been watching this containers. It's nowhere, Like, yo, 1339 01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,920 Speaker 5: you can have all the toilet paper in here for 1340 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,640 Speaker 5: twenty five hundred, right, So. 1341 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,240 Speaker 3: That would have been perfect during COVID. Yeah, at the 1342 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:09,720 Speaker 3: beginning of COVID exactly. 1343 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,840 Speaker 5: So I'm just like, yo, I did the math. 1344 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,360 Speaker 6: I was just like, Yo, that's that's like one. 1345 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:19,360 Speaker 5: Hundred thousand dollars worth of toilet paper. What paper there? Right? 1346 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,919 Speaker 5: So I'm just like all right, So now I'm calling people, 1347 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:27,640 Speaker 5: you know, I'm calling like people. So my man tells 1348 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,640 Speaker 5: me he has a connected like where he supplies all 1349 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:34,800 Speaker 5: the bodegas and and like, you know, I could this 1350 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:38,880 Speaker 5: and that I ended up. I ended up like sending 1351 01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:42,560 Speaker 5: sending the thing to Panama, like and made like seventy 1352 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 5: five hundred. 1353 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,280 Speaker 6: Dollars on the deal, right, But. 1354 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,680 Speaker 5: I like my whole thing was like, so I'm sending 1355 01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:55,040 Speaker 5: you twenty five hundred dollars and I've never seen this 1356 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,280 Speaker 5: toilet paper and you're telling me you're sending it to 1357 01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:03,840 Speaker 5: Panama and somebody's gonna send me ten thousand dollars back. 1358 01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,320 Speaker 6: And he's like yeah, And I was just. 1359 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:15,000 Speaker 4: Like rolling the dice. 1360 01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,360 Speaker 6: But it worked, right, But. 1361 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 5: Love it, love it, you know, But but that's the 1362 01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:30,040 Speaker 5: way you lose money too. 1363 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 4: That's a fact. 1364 01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:31,920 Speaker 5: It worked. 1365 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:33,720 Speaker 3: Don't try this at home, but it will. 1366 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,360 Speaker 5: It worked out. But the truth of the truth of 1367 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 5: the battle is like the best like the best cons right, 1368 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:46,439 Speaker 5: the best con games is when they put the upside 1369 01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,960 Speaker 5: in front of you and all you're looking at is 1370 01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:54,400 Speaker 5: the upside potential without the downside risk. Right, So what 1371 01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,240 Speaker 5: you know, what I'm saying made off what I'm saying 1372 01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:00,400 Speaker 5: all all them great scams is like, oh, I'm just 1373 01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,080 Speaker 5: looking at the upside, you know what I'm saying, Like 1374 01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,000 Speaker 5: if but bottom line is if it's too good to 1375 01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 5: be true, most likely it is. You know that one incident, 1376 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:13,439 Speaker 5: you know that one instance it was it worked in 1377 01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:17,240 Speaker 5: my favor, but in hindsight, like being the man that 1378 01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,200 Speaker 5: I am today, I wouldn't have risked it. 1379 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a lot of a lot of stuff 1380 01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,639 Speaker 2: go like ppe, like masks, Like you can buy these masks, 1381 01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:30,120 Speaker 2: and it's like it's always history, always repeat yourself, and 1382 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:35,519 Speaker 2: there's always an opportunity for somebody to make money. But 1383 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,479 Speaker 2: you gotta be careful because like you said, I mean 1384 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,760 Speaker 2: those kind of things you hit, but you're going to 1385 01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:42,160 Speaker 2: strike out more times than nothing. 1386 01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:46,439 Speaker 5: Wait for your pitch and and like right now, I'm 1387 01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:48,040 Speaker 5: big on taking risks, but it has to be a 1388 01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:51,840 Speaker 5: calculator risk, and it has to be a calculator risk, 1389 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:56,280 Speaker 5: and it has to like I have to have a 1390 01:09:56,400 --> 01:10:01,760 Speaker 5: definite plan to control my downs side risk. You know, 1391 01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,200 Speaker 5: got gotta have those stop losses in place. 1392 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:09,320 Speaker 2: Stop loss that's you know, that's important in all aspects. 1393 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:16,000 Speaker 5: Stop having in place, you know, and like as as 1394 01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,960 Speaker 5: you progress, you know, the more you go, like you 1395 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:20,400 Speaker 5: got to constantly adjust your. 1396 01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:21,920 Speaker 6: Stop losses, you know what I'm saying. 1397 01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:29,880 Speaker 5: The other day. The other day, I I'm involved in 1398 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:35,759 Speaker 5: this business and I rolled up on the scene and 1399 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,040 Speaker 5: it was like a lot of high risk behavior. 1400 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,880 Speaker 4: Going on and you're analyzing the location. 1401 01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:49,240 Speaker 5: And then I was just like, yo, I'm making money, 1402 01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,400 Speaker 5: but I have to shut I got to remove myself 1403 01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:56,360 Speaker 5: because you know, one my reputation to insurance. 1404 01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:01,320 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, you get killed, Yeah, that's yeah. 1405 01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:02,679 Speaker 5: It's just like, yo, this is. 1406 01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 2: This is crazy dangerous, very dangerous behavior. 1407 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,000 Speaker 5: It was you know, there was nothing the fairy is 1408 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,400 Speaker 5: going on, but it's just like like you get every 1409 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,240 Speaker 5: uncomfortable Yeah, every step, every step you're take in life, 1410 01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:19,320 Speaker 5: you gotta you know, like like you ain't got I 1411 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,000 Speaker 5: think Jay hasn't said as a line with like yo, 1412 01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:23,640 Speaker 5: I ain't gotta be in the projects all day or 1413 01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:24,120 Speaker 5: something like that. 1414 01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,479 Speaker 2: All they talking about how being in the projects all day. Yeah, 1415 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:28,559 Speaker 2: that sounds stupid to me. 1416 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:35,479 Speaker 5: So at some point, like as you elevate, you can't 1417 01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,240 Speaker 5: be doing the same things you were doing and you 1418 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:38,960 Speaker 5: can't take the same risks. 1419 01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,360 Speaker 2: I'm saying, no, it's very true, and rest in peace 1420 01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,040 Speaker 2: to one of our biggest inspirations. Nifty hustles great and 1421 01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:49,479 Speaker 2: it's an unfortunate situation. But sometimes you stay around too long. Jealousy, envy, 1422 01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,519 Speaker 2: just and just random things happen in certain neighborhoods where 1423 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:58,280 Speaker 2: it's you have to elevate and like you can't stay 1424 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,320 Speaker 2: in the same and ironment that you might have grew 1425 01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,400 Speaker 2: up in that you once felt comfortable. At some point 1426 01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,679 Speaker 2: some one, things that make you used to feel comfortable 1427 01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:10,520 Speaker 2: make you feel uncomfortable. At some point you should feel uncomfortable, 1428 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,439 Speaker 2: and if you feel comfortable, you have to ask yourself 1429 01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:14,439 Speaker 2: why you feel comfortable. 1430 01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:21,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just like like keeping it real or or 1431 01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:26,080 Speaker 5: keep you know, like you One of one of the 1432 01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,680 Speaker 5: things that I always try to try to try to 1433 01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,719 Speaker 5: say to myself is I'm not going to be loyal 1434 01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,280 Speaker 5: and I'm not going to be faithful to my old self. 1435 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:37,759 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 1436 01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just like, yo, just because I said it, 1437 01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,760 Speaker 5: Just because I said it, you know, five years ago, 1438 01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,880 Speaker 5: two years ago, you know, doesn't mean that it has 1439 01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:56,000 Speaker 5: to stand true, you know, and you know, not for nothing, 1440 01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,400 Speaker 5: never give my heart to something like whatever. 1441 01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just like you and now he's married, 1442 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:01,519 Speaker 3: he's married. 1443 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:05,519 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the evolution, but it's the saying it 1444 01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,080 Speaker 7: isn't that same lineage of the growth of him and 1445 01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,519 Speaker 7: just us listening to the music, it was like we 1446 01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:12,720 Speaker 7: watched them at that point, we watched him become a 1447 01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,720 Speaker 7: mature husband and father and the same line It's like, yo, 1448 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:17,280 Speaker 7: I ain't worked that hard to be the same. 1449 01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:21,320 Speaker 5: Yeah you can't. You can't be scared to contradict yourself. 1450 01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:21,840 Speaker 6: What I'm saying. 1451 01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,200 Speaker 4: So the betterment of yourself, right right right. 1452 01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:24,400 Speaker 7: Like. 1453 01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,519 Speaker 6: That's how some backwards. 1454 01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:29,960 Speaker 2: That's also true, and you can do that the next 1455 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:31,840 Speaker 2: day if I don't feel if I don't feel the 1456 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:35,120 Speaker 2: same way I felt yesterday, I changed my mind. At 1457 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,320 Speaker 2: any point in time, you could reserve the right to 1458 01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:40,040 Speaker 2: change your mind and completely become a different person. That's 1459 01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,040 Speaker 2: why I don't. I don't really get into politics too 1460 01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,880 Speaker 2: much because the whole things that you said twenty years ago, 1461 01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,559 Speaker 2: like you said this, I was, it was nineteen eighty four. 1462 01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,000 Speaker 2: I'm a different person now, you know. It's like you 1463 01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 2: can't be held accountable for things that you said thirty 1464 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,360 Speaker 2: years ago. I mean it's like Dame said, like I 1465 01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,680 Speaker 2: was pulling champagne on girls, like I was out of 1466 01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 2: my mind fifty years old. 1467 01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,400 Speaker 3: Now I wouldn't do that now. I can't help. 1468 01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,640 Speaker 2: You can't hold me accountab before what I did when 1469 01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:06,240 Speaker 2: I was twenty eight. 1470 01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:12,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's wild man, Like, if if. 1471 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,200 Speaker 6: You ain't growing, you staying the same, right, So. 1472 01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,559 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, speaking about growing, let's end 1473 01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,439 Speaker 2: it out on this. You have a nonprofit, the Brooklyn Bank. 1474 01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:22,040 Speaker 2: What is the Brooklyn Bank? 1475 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,519 Speaker 5: The Brooklyn Bank. The Brooklyn Bank is like my give 1476 01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:31,400 Speaker 5: back right. So here I am and keeping it real 1477 01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:36,840 Speaker 5: one hundred percent right. I make my money buying properties 1478 01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:43,559 Speaker 5: cheap and selling it to people high and unfortunately most 1479 01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,400 Speaker 5: of the people that I sell to they don't look 1480 01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:50,519 Speaker 5: like me. So I love my people. I care about 1481 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:54,800 Speaker 5: my people. So what I what I did was I 1482 01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,599 Speaker 5: went and I actually bought the building, the Brooklyn Bank 1483 01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:02,680 Speaker 5: eight nine six decal bet Stye, real bedsty not you. 1484 01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:06,280 Speaker 3: Know, real best. 1485 01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:14,040 Speaker 5: So so basically, so basically I started to nonprofit where 1486 01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:18,760 Speaker 5: I have a building where I I do financial literacy programs. 1487 01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:25,440 Speaker 5: Like tomorrow, we we giving out toys to the kids Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving, 1488 01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:29,120 Speaker 5: we literally gave out a thousand turkeys and a thousand 1489 01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:31,640 Speaker 5: things of bags of groceries. 1490 01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:31,960 Speaker 6: And stuff like that. 1491 01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:37,640 Speaker 5: So that's that's my personal gift back, you know, my 1492 01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:43,480 Speaker 5: my opportunity to kind of even it out. Like the 1493 01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,320 Speaker 5: Brooklyn Bank. What what it's really about is about financial literacy, 1494 01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:51,639 Speaker 5: financial empowerment, and economic empowerment. So I'm really big on teaching, 1495 01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:55,519 Speaker 5: you know, whether whether it's budgeting, whether it's saving, whether 1496 01:15:55,520 --> 01:16:00,240 Speaker 5: it's credit, whether it's real estate, whether it's it's stocks. 1497 01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:03,519 Speaker 6: Just trying to share the information. 1498 01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,759 Speaker 5: Because you know, like you guys do a really great, 1499 01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:10,760 Speaker 5: great job on this platform of making the information available 1500 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:14,200 Speaker 5: to those to those who probably could not get it 1501 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,360 Speaker 5: elsewhere you know, and you make you know, you bring, 1502 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:22,360 Speaker 5: you bring, you bring the right people on where it's 1503 01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,200 Speaker 5: it's not foreign. And that's the problem. A lot of 1504 01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,400 Speaker 5: times people think think that these things are out of 1505 01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:33,200 Speaker 5: their out of their out of their reach. So I 1506 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:39,880 Speaker 5: basically wanted to provide a space, a community, a mindset, 1507 01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:43,120 Speaker 5: and an organization where it's where we're focused on letting 1508 01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,680 Speaker 5: people know that, yo, you could do this, you know 1509 01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:51,040 Speaker 5: this whole like my whole real estate thing, right and 1510 01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,320 Speaker 5: my real estate, my business and all that other stuff. 1511 01:16:54,040 --> 01:17:00,360 Speaker 5: I didn't invent anything like like I've I've made tens 1512 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:04,519 Speaker 5: of millions of dollars. Like I didn't create anything. I 1513 01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,600 Speaker 5: didn't make anything better. I didn't revolutionize anything. I'm just 1514 01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:13,000 Speaker 5: following the blue print that you know that Andrew Jackson 1515 01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,920 Speaker 5: was doing back back in the back in the seventeen hundreds. 1516 01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:20,200 Speaker 5: You know, like you buy, you buy land, and and 1517 01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,640 Speaker 5: and you take take that value and you reinvest and 1518 01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:26,320 Speaker 5: this that the other and and and you know, you 1519 01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:29,920 Speaker 5: you practice discipline, you practice delayed gratification. You know, all 1520 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,200 Speaker 5: these little little things like these are all the little 1521 01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:37,439 Speaker 5: things that people have to learn so that they could 1522 01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:38,320 Speaker 5: elevate themselves. 1523 01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:40,200 Speaker 7: So is it is it an event space or is 1524 01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,480 Speaker 7: it like almost like a community center where anymore. 1525 01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:43,960 Speaker 4: Of a community center people can come in through it. 1526 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,840 Speaker 5: And we were doing events, we we kind of put 1527 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:51,280 Speaker 5: that on pause, like like right now I'm focused one 1528 01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:56,360 Speaker 5: hundred percent on doing doing community things. And we're going 1529 01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,880 Speaker 5: into schools and you know, bringing in financial literacy stuff. 1530 01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:02,000 Speaker 4: So you just partnered with a school. 1531 01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:05,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, we partnered with a school the other day. I 1532 01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:06,800 Speaker 5: didn't research on you guys. I saw you guys. 1533 01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:08,360 Speaker 6: We've been in the school for years. 1534 01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:08,599 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1535 01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:09,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a teacher. 1536 01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:13,280 Speaker 5: Okay, So that's dope. But that's really what I'm trying 1537 01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:18,639 Speaker 5: to do. You know, Like like there's a in regards 1538 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:25,200 Speaker 5: to money, right, like whether whether you have ten million, 1539 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,960 Speaker 5: twenty million, one hundred million, or a billion dollars, right, 1540 01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,360 Speaker 5: the price the price of a steak is a price 1541 01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:37,000 Speaker 5: of a steak, so everything else is excess, right. It's like, 1542 01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:41,120 Speaker 5: so that's kind of I'm you know, I'm blessed that 1543 01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:46,559 Speaker 5: I'm at a point in my life where like another 1544 01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,880 Speaker 5: check does not change my life, you know, not change 1545 01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,240 Speaker 5: the life that I that I enjoy. Leading you know, 1546 01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,840 Speaker 5: you had a dude up here. I was watching an 1547 01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,240 Speaker 5: episode and he said, yeah, well I got a bigger plane. 1548 01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:07,519 Speaker 11: Now him shout out to him, Oh g free, Yeah, 1549 01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,320 Speaker 11: yeah him if he wants a bigger plane. 1550 01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,080 Speaker 5: But it's just like I'm at a point in my 1551 01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:16,639 Speaker 5: life where I'm comfortable, you know, like like I don't 1552 01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,680 Speaker 5: want to I don't want to be the dude in 1553 01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:23,240 Speaker 5: a Ferrari if everybody can't have a Ferrari, you know, 1554 01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,680 Speaker 5: because then then you're looking crazy, you looking like what 1555 01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:27,200 Speaker 5: I'm saying, you looking like lunch, They're. 1556 01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:27,880 Speaker 4: Gonna put you on the menu. 1557 01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:28,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1558 01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:35,800 Speaker 3: So you know, at everybody got Borghinis in Atlanta exactly. 1559 01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:36,320 Speaker 3: That's the best. 1560 01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:37,479 Speaker 4: That's that's gonna be tough. 1561 01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:39,400 Speaker 5: There's no COVID in Atlanta. 1562 01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,240 Speaker 4: Top that also might be true. 1563 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:43,839 Speaker 3: That's fact effect. 1564 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,559 Speaker 5: So that's that's the Brooklyn Bank to me, you know, 1565 01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:50,160 Speaker 5: like it's a community. It's it's it's and it's funny 1566 01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,360 Speaker 5: because like when I talk to Brooklyn Banks, a lot 1567 01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:55,439 Speaker 5: of times people just think about the physical location, which 1568 01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:59,240 Speaker 5: is cool, you know, because I'm sometimes still in awe 1569 01:19:59,240 --> 01:19:59,479 Speaker 5: of it. 1570 01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,559 Speaker 6: It's just like, yo, dude, you got you own a bank? 1571 01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:01,800 Speaker 5: Yo? 1572 01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:03,680 Speaker 4: It was was it a church? First, or was it 1573 01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:04,479 Speaker 4: a bank church? 1574 01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:08,160 Speaker 5: It was a bank, yeah, like it was built. It 1575 01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:10,800 Speaker 5: was built as a bank. Like the whole thing is 1576 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:15,000 Speaker 5: is like sixteen inch cement in concrete and bricks right 1577 01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:18,599 Speaker 5: with a vault woul a vault and everything. And then 1578 01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:22,679 Speaker 5: in the eighties they started using it as a church 1579 01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:27,240 Speaker 5: when when the bank went under shout out to economics. 1580 01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:31,840 Speaker 5: When the bank went under, they started using it as 1581 01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,519 Speaker 5: a church. And then I took you know, I got 1582 01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:41,160 Speaker 5: that deal. And originally, like my line brother had hooked 1583 01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,000 Speaker 5: me up on that deal because I got you know, 1584 01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,080 Speaker 5: like there was mad people trying to get that building, 1585 01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:50,120 Speaker 5: you know. And one of the one of the caveats 1586 01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:52,800 Speaker 5: of of how I got it, because of how I 1587 01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:57,360 Speaker 5: got it and how I how they accepted my bid 1588 01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:59,839 Speaker 5: instead of some of the other bids that was higher, 1589 01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:01,920 Speaker 5: is that I promised that I would keep doing good 1590 01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:05,320 Speaker 5: working there, you know, like I wouldn't turn it into 1591 01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:08,599 Speaker 5: a strip club or I would knock it down and 1592 01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:10,040 Speaker 5: build condos or nothing like that. 1593 01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:14,600 Speaker 2: So more employees Atlanta might argue that that might be 1594 01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,800 Speaker 2: shout out to Shout out to Blue Flint, shout out 1595 01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:23,280 Speaker 2: to Magic City, shout out to twelve. 1596 01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:26,960 Speaker 3: Support black business support businesses. 1597 01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,240 Speaker 5: I digress brolex, I. 1598 01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:37,640 Speaker 4: See tell the look up because it's snowing and tousies digress. 1599 01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:44,360 Speaker 3: Okay, there you have it, ladies and gentlemen. 1600 01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:47,240 Speaker 2: It's been a pleasure man, and once again, thank you 1601 01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:48,960 Speaker 2: for teaching that class on Eyo University. 1602 01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:49,559 Speaker 3: That was dope. 1603 01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:51,880 Speaker 2: And tell them about that your experience. I know you 1604 01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:53,760 Speaker 2: you answered questions for like an hour and a half, 1605 01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:55,680 Speaker 2: Like how was that teaching it? 1606 01:21:55,680 --> 01:22:01,519 Speaker 5: It was dope because like prior to like I kind 1607 01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,000 Speaker 5: of have it in my in my head how I 1608 01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:07,439 Speaker 5: go about analyzing the deal. So prior to that, I've 1609 01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:11,280 Speaker 5: never really written it down, written the formula down, and 1610 01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:13,640 Speaker 5: and and and wrote it down, and so I'm like 1611 01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,559 Speaker 5: looking at like, hey, this is this is real, you know, 1612 01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:20,080 Speaker 5: this is what I do. And it was It was 1613 01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:25,720 Speaker 5: very It was pleasing because like the sometimes sometimes I 1614 01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:26,800 Speaker 5: talk to. 1615 01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:31,519 Speaker 6: People and it's just like they don't get it. 1616 01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:36,520 Speaker 5: But it was good to be in in a a platform, 1617 01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,400 Speaker 5: you know, where your earners like this is what they do, 1618 01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:40,880 Speaker 5: and this is what they're trying to this is what 1619 01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:44,719 Speaker 5: they're trying to do when and they're not. The questions 1620 01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:50,400 Speaker 5: were intelligent questions and they you know, you know, you 1621 01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:52,360 Speaker 5: as a teacher, you know how it feels. 1622 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,320 Speaker 4: Like when every every question is a good question. 1623 01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:58,800 Speaker 7: Exactly exactly, Now, yeah, I understand because like when when 1624 01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,200 Speaker 7: sometimes when a question this phrase, you can tell somebody's 1625 01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:04,479 Speaker 7: been critically thinking. And that's important, right because it's like, 1626 01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:07,160 Speaker 7: all right, I know that that's coming from a place 1627 01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,760 Speaker 7: of of wanting to know, not just I just wanted 1628 01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:11,960 Speaker 7: to say something, and so shout at the earners that 1629 01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,599 Speaker 7: asked all those We watched the presentation. It was pretty dark. 1630 01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:17,360 Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance to watch the whole question answer, 1631 01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:19,600 Speaker 2: but they told me it lasted two hours, which is 1632 01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,640 Speaker 2: longer than usually. So I know that there was a 1633 01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:23,920 Speaker 2: bunch of questions and answers, So that's dope. They said, 1634 01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,800 Speaker 2: most everybody got their question answers, so that's dope. 1635 01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:32,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, you know, my goal, my goal, my personal 1636 01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:34,360 Speaker 5: goal is like like I said, I've made a lot 1637 01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:37,360 Speaker 5: of I've made a lot of mistakes. You know, like 1638 01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:41,960 Speaker 5: there's there's no reason why I'm not sitting, you know, 1639 01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:45,519 Speaker 5: sitting on nine figures right now, except that I made 1640 01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:49,519 Speaker 5: a lot of mistakes. And you know, my goal is 1641 01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:53,400 Speaker 5: to make sure that people don't necessarily make the same 1642 01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,559 Speaker 5: mistakes that I made. You're gonna make your own mistakes. 1643 01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:57,880 Speaker 5: But there are a lot of There are a lot 1644 01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:00,000 Speaker 5: of mistakes that I made that could have been avoid 1645 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,160 Speaker 5: if somebody had just pulled me to the side, or 1646 01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:05,559 Speaker 5: if there was a platform like yours where where I 1647 01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:06,640 Speaker 5: could get the knowledge. 1648 01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:09,040 Speaker 3: That's a fact so big. 1649 01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:12,479 Speaker 2: How can people contact you social media handles? What's the information? 1650 01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:14,360 Speaker 2: Brooklyn Bank or any other initiative that you want to 1651 01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:15,120 Speaker 2: make the public aware of? 1652 01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:17,720 Speaker 5: Two places you can get in touch with me. You 1653 01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:19,679 Speaker 5: can get in touch with me at the Brooklyn Bank. 1654 01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:24,320 Speaker 5: That's the Brooklyn Bank as it's spelled, and you could 1655 01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:29,120 Speaker 5: hit me on I g at mister Jude Bernard m 1656 01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,320 Speaker 5: R dot j U D E B E R N 1657 01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:31,559 Speaker 5: A r. 1658 01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:33,840 Speaker 3: D Thank you Troy Housekeeping item. 1659 01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, shout out to everybody on Pertreon dot com. Y'all 1660 01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:38,960 Speaker 7: know that's our proud to paid program. We referenced NIPPED 1661 01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:40,960 Speaker 7: and that's where we got the idea from. So again, 1662 01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:43,719 Speaker 7: rest in peace to NIP. Shout everybody in crenshall shout 1663 01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:45,680 Speaker 7: shout out to everybody that showed us love out there 1664 01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:48,680 Speaker 7: when we visited the West And obviously you know if 1665 01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:50,400 Speaker 7: Tier five members. You get access to E y L 1666 01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:53,120 Speaker 7: University where you can get some good knowledge from some 1667 01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:57,240 Speaker 7: solid professors man, and the exceptional exceptionals top of the line. 1668 01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:01,000 Speaker 7: So we appreciate all the support and shout everybody that 1669 01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:02,640 Speaker 7: has been copying in new merch. I know, y'all, I 1670 01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,800 Speaker 7: know y'all saw that that varsity jacket that my boy 1671 01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:09,080 Speaker 7: had on looking looking Chris out there, man, So shout 1672 01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:10,080 Speaker 7: everybody that's supporting that. 1673 01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:10,400 Speaker 3: Man. 1674 01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,679 Speaker 7: We are very excited to have it and seeing everybody 1675 01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,920 Speaker 7: wearing it is is a testament to hard work, man. 1676 01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:17,120 Speaker 4: So salute to all y'all. 1677 01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:20,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and once again, shot at you all university. And 1678 01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:21,880 Speaker 2: that's people ask like, what's the difference between this and 1679 01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,880 Speaker 2: the podcast, and it's like our question and answers with 1680 01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,240 Speaker 2: somebody that you know has forty million dollars in real estate. 1681 01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:28,920 Speaker 2: It's not something that you get to do every day 1682 01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:31,720 Speaker 2: and to have a PowerPoint presentation and stuff like that. 1683 01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:33,080 Speaker 2: So these are different things that we bring to EU 1684 01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,600 Speaker 2: A university and we're very, very proud of that platform. 1685 01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:39,040 Speaker 2: So shout out to all the earners out there. Thank 1686 01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,639 Speaker 2: you guys for rocking with us. 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