WEBVTT - “That Topher Show Part 1” 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:13.240 Why it's with great joy that I welcome you back 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:17.799 into Those Amigos. I'm Wilmer Valderrama, and you know the 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:21.599 show has started, as you know, these ongoing conversations and 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:25.439 getting to know each other, and and in these conversations, uh, 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:28.240 we discovered there were individuals along the way that that 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:30.600 really kind of marked us, helped us and change us, 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:35.040 and also inspired us in many ways. So it's with 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:38.960 great joy that I introduced the first ever, the first 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:43.839 ever guest yes on on those Amigos. Might be the 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:45.800 last one. We'll see, you know, we'll see how this 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:51.080 one goes. But we're gonna try this thing, you know, Freddie, 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:53.960 I want you to meet so for Grace in the 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:57.480 House for Grace legendary, one of the great, one of 0:00:57.520 --> 0:00:59.279 the legendary. 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:01.560 And my thing I was going to do, which I 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:03.760 won't do now, was was because I thought it was 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:05.839 one of those podcasts were just walk in and start talking. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:07.080 It's clearly not. 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.800 We're used to be that way, but they asked us 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:10.560 to I do the show. 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.360 I was going to do a whole like like you're 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:18.680 from like seventies show, Yes you were great? 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:21.040 What did you play? I was? I was on the 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:24.360 seventies show were you like we were never seen? Man? 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:26.880 Were you recurring or like? 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:30.839 What were here? I was like really regular anyways. But 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:32.920 but so you guys, haven't you guys haven't met or 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:34.199 maybe cross backs. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.720 We must have crossed, yeah, yeah in the early two thousands, 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:38.760 maybe when we were all out. 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:40.800 Yeah, but I love this show. I love what you 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:42.959 guys are doing. It's such a thank you, you know, and 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.640 I feel I feel like such an interloper here. But 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:47.200 I'm happy to be your first guest. 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:48.920 Oh no, and we're so happy to have you man, 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:53.560 and and so happy that with some homework. Oh there, 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:55.240 she I have paper in my hand. 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.880 I've never done this before, you know, to help your 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:03.080 your listeners just said some experience, like what it's like 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:06.560 to be a straight white? Now, how boring we are? 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:09.760 I wanted to make this show a little more boring. 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:14.440 Absolutely absolutely never that. Never that. But starting into it, right, 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:16.960 you know, a lot of this show over to kind 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:18.800 of tell you kind of you know, what they started. 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:21.360 It was kind of like this deep dives on like 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:22.880 the things that kind of made us. 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:24.280 Right, Like, I know, I've listened to it. That's why 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:25.480 I'm like, what am I doing here. Yeah. 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:29.240 Well, the point is is that you have such an 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:32.960 interesting perspective because I really believe very few people in 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:36.799 entertainment has achieved what you have, specifically when they were 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:40.440 given a responsibility to be a Nan Corona show. And 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.200 you know, we were talking about it, you were talking 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.359 about it in the past, you know, and I had 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:48.799 said that, you know that tofah, Grays have brought up 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.480 to life Eric Foreman in a way that nobody else 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.600 could have. And I would say this the rest, but 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:55.400 for the rest of the guys, like you know, kurk 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:57.960 Wit Smith, you couldn't think about anyone playing Red right. 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.239 And I think the idea that at a time time 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:04.680 where something so new and so disrupted to TV, you know, 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.720 somehow we had the audacity to just come up with 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:09.400 characters and be like, oh, this is what it's going 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.440 to be, and then the writers be like, Okay, run 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.800 with that. You know. But one of the things that 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.680 I've always respected, and I've always said, you know aloud 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.639 all the time, is that when I look back at 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:25.120 what you had done with Eric Foreman, it was so 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:29.839 it was unexpected, it was unpredictable, and and it kept 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:34.880 audiences captivated that a leading character on a sitcom doesn't 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:38.200 have to be the straight character, like the character that 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:41.160 doesn't really have the colors and the and and you 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:41.960 you made something. 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:43.920 It is a little bit and I remember on the 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:47.440 page at the beginning, it was a little bit just 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.760 the straight guy, like he just like, uh, like I'd 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:54.120 set up everyone and and I remember setting you up. 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.400 It was terrible, Like I technically had more lines, but 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:01.040 every time Wilmer spoke, the audience would like stand up 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.480 and applaud, and then I'd say another line, and then 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:05.760 Ashton would say something that was like a huge hit 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:09.840 or but over time, and that's the best thing about 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:11.160 doing one of those shows. It's one of the things 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.360 I hate when young actors, I mean, they aren't even 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:16.880 that many sitcoms anymore, but uh, when they say I 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:19.760 can't wait to get off of this show I'm doing 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.120 and get into films. What I want to say is 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:26.360 like this is the best training ground because when you stink, 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:29.480 and I mean, we know we were there. 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:31.480 Miss There was a lot of hits, but. 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:33.279 Couple a couple of misses in a row at the beginning, 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.760 and like, especially for me, I mean, I never remember, 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:39.920 this is your first, your second professional job. I think 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:40.360 you did. 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:43.160 A Pacific Yah, Pacificos Marginal Pages. 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:46.200 Commercially and I had done nothing, So that was that 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.600 was your first A little. 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:50.240 Bit about that because you you were you, you had 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.240 you were doing theater and oh no, I mean. 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:58.679 School. No, I didn't do anything. I'd done high school 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:00.880 plays and not even that any and it was a 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:02.480 bad drama program. 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:04.480 Were you in high school when you got there? 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.960 I was at a boarding school, which plays a lot. 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:11.120 Get into it. 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:17.960 Wilman and I have also identical backgrounds, all right. So 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:21.800 I was going to a boarding school in New Hampshire 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:25.520 and the girl who did the sets, who Wilmer knows, Lindsay. 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:30.440 Her parents were these amazing writers who changed all of 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:33.479 our lives. They'd written on SNL and then they wrote 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:37.719 the Wayne's World movie, Turner, the Brady Bunch movie, which 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.680 is great, and Tommy Boy and they're just crushing it. 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:42.839 And then they created Third Rock from the Sun, which 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.880 is when I was at school with Lindsay, I was like, Johnow, 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.040 this is incredible. Her parents just won the Golden Globe 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:50.599 for sometimes, Like this is crazy. 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:51.640 And then. 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.720 They saw this play that I did senior year and 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:57.599 they kind of said, we know you're going to USC 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:02.160 next year, ye can we call? And I was like, man, 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:04.720 I had no idea what they meant. You could not 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:08.160 guess that they meant to be in something. And I'd 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:11.280 only been in a couple of plays. And to let 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.960 you know, how uh great a drama program the school had. 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.760 We could only do plays. It had no sets, like 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:19.920 this is the first play she did the set that 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.920 like she stepped forward and said, like, we'll do like 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.840 a wall, right, But it was all plays that like 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:29.000 you know, god Spell in our town because there wasn't 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.840 even a theater. It was like we go to like 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.839 the church, right, you know, the kids were sitting the pews. 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:38.440 I mean it was like there was and it was 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.760 not very good. I mean there clearly was like not 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:44.920 a good theater program. But because of that we it 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:46.800 actually reminded It's funny that you weren't there with me, 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:48.440 but you kind of were in spirit in the sense 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:50.200 that I was doing this with you then, you know, 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.160 a year and a half later, but we were just 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:57.280 kind of coming up with stuff we thought was interesting. 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.520 Like the teacher who did it didn't even show up 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:02.839 most of the time, so like we just add stuff. 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.040 I mean's sacrilege. I literally think it's illegal to add 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:07.479 so much stuff to a play that you're the school's 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:11.040 playing the license or something. But we changed so much 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.120 of things that I think maybe the turners saw like, oh, 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.800 he's you know, it's not like when you go to 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:18.560 see a good high school play and everyone it's like 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.600 a Broadway musical, but but younger people or something like 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:23.240 this was like totally. 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:26.360 Weird, and so it wasn't like necessarily like a theater program. 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.960 It was you all just kind of put together. 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.200 Like a like a theater club or there was there was, yeah, 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.000 there was like there was gonna be a school play 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:36.600 and there were auditions and and uh yeah, I. 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:41.480 Mean it was But were you thinking like acting? Why not? Me? Like, 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:43.280 were you thinking that at all? That would you just 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:46.200 do it with creationally? Like what was your interest in it? Right? 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:47.680 Because I thought it was neat. I mean I did 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:49.640 the video of your book too. I thought anything that 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:53.040 was like kind of creative and extracurricular. But then when 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:54.480 I went to USC the next year, I did none 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:56.480 of that. Like I didn't, but I had so many 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:58.040 friends of the were actors because they all moved to 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:02.480 La to to be in the business or be around it, 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:05.600 and I got rejected from the film school. I thought, 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:07.360 what am I even doing out here now? And then 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:11.440 but have I ever really told you this? So Bonnie 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:14.840 called me. I was in my dorm and some of 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.240 the kids were smoking, I mean apropos of the show. 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:21.080 They were smoking in my room and then the phone rings. 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.000 I'm like hello, and she's like, hey, it's Bonnie and 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:28.000 this is I was like Bonnie, like, who are Like 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:32.120 do we hook up? Like? And she was like, no, 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.880 I'm your friend's mom. I'm I'm Lindsay's mom. I was like, 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:41.360 can you swear on this podcast? I was like put 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.240 it away, like we're gonna get attention or whatever. I 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:46.520 was like, no, no, I'm calling you because I mean, 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:49.160 it was so mind blowing to me. I mean, I 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:51.480 knew what they did and totally thought it was cool, 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:55.280 but never thought I still was like, do you mean 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:56.920 for me to be your assistant or like, what are 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:59.520 you talking about. She's like, no, no, Basically, we've we've 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:03.320 had every kid in Hollywood in they're all I mean, 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.480 I realize now what she meant was like, they're all 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:09.839 too cool. We want like a real nerd, like like 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:14.120 a fresh from the tree, like like I was currently 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:17.080 not getting laid in college. And I was like all right, 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.120 and so I think she said, bring a head shot 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:20.720 and a resume. 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:22.640 This is how green eye like what it is a headshot? 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:24.559 I said, what's it? I said, you know what a 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.599 resume is because I had worked at Suncoast Video and 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:29.199 Dunkin Donuts. But I was like, but what is a 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:32.080 head shot? And she was like, oh God, like it's 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.240 it's like a picture that goes with your resume. And 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.240 when I brought it in, do you know this story? No? 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:40.360 I brought it in. It was a piece of paper 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:42.600 like this and paper clip to it was a picture 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.199 of me and my friends at six Flags, like in 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:49.400 the parking lot, like the story before. I've never heard 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.760 this my kin code like like no, just a printed 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:54.199 out like four. 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:59.880 Six photos the one that you get from Costco and wow, 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:01.920 like one that you had like in your photo album. 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:03.959 So it was even album. It's just like a photo. 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.199 I had it, all right, that's me and uh I 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.240 put it. Uh I put it with the resume that 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.120 said like you know sun Coast Video like night you know, 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:13.840 like night shift Dunkin Donuts. 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:15.960 I mean these people. I mean, it's the perfect pitch 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.679 for Eric Foreman. I mean you really think about it, Yeah, 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:20.280 you're right right making a way away. It's like the 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:20.839 perfect pitch. 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:24.000 I actually I had a lunch with Tom Warner Wants 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:28.120 such a nice guy Lost, and he I think he 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:30.840 admitted to me that they were like, we're just gonna 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:32.439 bring this kid in so you can see what we're 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.640 looking for, like we want someone like this. We don't 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.480 actually we don't actually want like this guy is not 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:40.839 an actor, Like we can't have him do it. And 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:44.120 then and that's why. And then it went well enough 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:47.600 that I uh, but I'll say in WILLM. Waldrama's book, 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.480 which is very good, which I've read cover to cover, 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:51.400 but you skipped through a bunch of it until I 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:58.520 got to the part, you know, I read all which 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.360 was written from an awesome perspective by it. I really 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.280 loved it was really interesting to me to read that book, 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.839 especially about our experience from your point of view. The 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:10.080 best part is for me was that I like walked 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:11.679 in and I mean, why don't you tell the story? 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.000 Which when you first, oh. 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:18.320 Dude, this so I was like, so scared to make 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:22.120 a mistake, right, Right, So you walk into an auditioning room, right, 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:24.600 and you're like you sit in the chair that they 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:26.760 somehow pointed at, you know what I mean, Like you 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:28.760 just don't look, and you know you'll wait until they 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.679 call your name. You like et everything by the book, right, 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:34.319 You're like being invited into something that was so mysterious. 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:36.400 So I didn't want to do anything that was like 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:40.160 disrespectful or or like foreseen as like egotistic or whatever. 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:41.480 Just want of them, Like I just want to be 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:45.160 a nice boy here, you know. And I'm sitting there 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:49.160 and this dude walks in like he owns the place, 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:53.480 goes straight to the to the refrigerator and like opens 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:56.240 grabs the water and then picks up an apple and 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:58.719 just like sits down. It's like eating what. And I'm 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:02.080 like at the audition, I mean, I was like, for sure, 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.800 these fucking guy's not getting the part. Like he's definitely 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.199 not getting the part. And he goes in there and 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.319 like grasps the water and he's drinking whatever, like doesn't 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:11.800 matter to anybody, and all that stuffen. 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.719 He's in there, and I was like, this guy is 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.199 his energy is crazy, like I'm thinking, like, I'm thinking, like, 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:17.760 who does that? 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:19.719 Here's what you know. I already had the part. I 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:23.000 didn't know that, but yet I would never I was 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:23.480 scared to. 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:27.880 Of course, so this was audition or so you were 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:29.319 sitting in the back, but no, I was in the 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:31.720 waiting room and he was waiting to mister to. 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:35.640 Read with people who played Laura's Park. So I was like, 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:37.880 I had it. I've been there a couple of times. 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:43.120 But even so, the thing I love about that story 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:47.320 so much is how different our backgrounds are and how 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.199 how entitled I probably was, you know what I mean, 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:54.280 like even yes and no. 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.280 But I think, you know what, the reason why I 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:59.840 told the story that way is because from my perspective, 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:03.839 was like, oh man, someone like that, like someone that fresh, 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:05.559 you know, is not gonna get this part, you know 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:07.840 what I mean? But literally, I know that he already 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.120 in the park. He's been in displays a bunch of times. Right, 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.880 he got the part. He obviously you know, knew you. 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.360 Have to like this is what I can contribute to 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:19.280 this podcast, because clearly I have a very different background 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:24.080 from you guys. But the one of the most wonderful 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:25.439 things that happened to me is I grew up in 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:31.440 a very myopic, very affluent town in Connecticut. I mean, 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:34.480 it's like just the total opposite of how Wilmer grew up. 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:40.200 And I probably I don't want to get too corny, 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.920 but I think it's like like a little miracle that 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:48.839 I got the show. I mean, what a weird way 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:50.400 to even get I mean it's a lottery ticket just 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:53.679 to get a role. I've never auditioned for anything, but 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:57.760 then to be forced into a group of people who 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:01.840 are so that you never would have met, never would 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.800 have hung out with, and especially that you and I 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.240 had this incredible connection from day one. I mean you 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.720 and I really became best friends right off the bat. 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:14.800 And then I would come over to his folks house 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:17.960 and hang out a lot with your sisters. 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.640 I lived with my family, you know, so when it's like, oh, 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:22.920 you want to come over, my mom was there, my 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.160 dad is there, my mom is cooking the soups, you know, 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:26.760 and like we have and just and. 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:30.080 Just understanding the world from another point of view. I've 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.240 been to boarding school, so there were people from different 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:36.000 countries and stuff, but it was also myopic and the 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.720 sense of like you know everyone was at a boarding school, 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.400 you know what I mean, So what was that like for. 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.920 You to go to a Venezuelan slash Colombian house and 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.720 to have dinner with this family whose language. 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:49.520 It was incredible? 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:49.880 It was. 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:54.560 You know, you don't know what you don't know. I mean, 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.240 that's what I've learned about like growing up. I'm so 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:58.680 glad I got out of that town because I know 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:00.640 a lot of people I grew up with. You know, 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:02.640 I went to college and came right back to that town, 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.480 and so that alone was a victory. But then too, 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.720 I mean, you knew me. Then if I stayed in college, 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.960 I'm like kind of a shy guy, and I wouldn't 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:17.400 have done any of the things. I mean, we did 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.640 so many amazing things together. But but when I think 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.200 back about it, I mean sometimes i'd sleep over Wilmer's 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.160 house because it was because we were like teenagers, yeah, 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:27.600 and like I'd go over there and have like I know, 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.760 it was amazing, especially going through this thing where it's 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.360 like scary and you're getting famous and you don't understand 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:34.360 what's happening in your life. But then I have such 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:39.200 a good friend and to also have a a eye 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:44.120 opening experience about I don't think I was walking around entitled, 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:49.160 like like within my community, I would have been seen 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.720 as a jerk. But I do think I wasn't, you 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:53.200 know what I mean. That's like part of life has 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.160 grown up and realizing like where you came from. 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.080 You always gonna have to give yourself some credit because 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.480 here's the thing you were. You were tossing to be 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:07.280 the center nucleus of what was a prime time Fox 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:09.760 sitcom became the same sense in the act. 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:11.840 I'm glad I was a little entitled. I know you 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:13.480 have to this will happened for me. 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.440 Do we talk about this in the show a few times, 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:19.160 where like you have to have some kind of audacity, 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:23.360 to audacity to think that you belong because nothing about 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:26.000 this industry tells you you you do right, Like a 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:26.400 lot of. 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.080 The most of the industry made me feel pretty comfortable. 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:34.080 When I was looking at my representation on screen, I thought, yeah, 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:40.480 seems this is what how I grew up. But honestly, 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:44.440 that's why it's so magical for me that I got. 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:45.000 To and it. 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.400 I mean, it's not like one of those movies where 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.640 someone has like a you know, it's such a natural 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:57.600 real experience. We just connected, you know, comedy and performing. 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:02.040 Is uh English that well at the time, truly, And. 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.560 I just learned English four years before that. That actually, 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:06.440 no crazy years before that, because I had gotten to 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:07.520 the country four years before. 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.080 When he says learned English, I would say he some 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:15.359 of English, but he was. But the thing, but the 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:18.520 the universal language you spoke was it's like past fail 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.040 on show night like. So first I had respect from 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:22.560 him because I was like, oh, this guy is hilarious. 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:24.440 And then I started to get to know you, and 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:29.320 I thought like, yeah, it's just very eye opening. It's 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:31.680 probably it's probably kind of life changing for me more 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:35.320 so than uh it was for you, I bet, even 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:36.320 though I'm sure a lot of. 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.520 Nobody because you have to understand so because I had 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:44.080 only been here a couple of years, meeting someone like him, 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.240 who also, by the way, his family also took me 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:49.480 in the same way. You know, every time I see 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:51.400 his dad, you know he can you came. 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:55.560 I was like, hey dad, he slept buped. I still 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:57.040 have my childhood bumped and he was. 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:01.040 Connecticut and it took the train over together and I 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:03.160 was like, oh my god, it's like in the movies. 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:05.879 Right, That's what he said, walk through the woods. We 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:09.240 have these woods behind our house, and I guess most 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.240 of the movies that are shot about the woods he'd 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.600 seen in movies. Yeah, he kept saying like this is 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:16.680 like a set. And my dad was like, what is 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:19.080 this kid talking about? Like these are the woods like 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:20.600 the league fakes? 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.399 But I got when you take a walk through his 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:25.840 backyard and he was like, you know, it's like the 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:28.200 trees and it was fall right, so it was like 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:30.920 kind of like gloomy and a little bit spooky, and 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.520 it just looked like, oh, this is like like the 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:35.760 American towns that they make movies about, like like you 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:37.840 would see in the movies. Yes, dude, So I'm like, oh, 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:39.800 this is so cool. Makes sense. And you know, got 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:42.879 to being his neighborhood and he's childled home and got 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:44.800 to sleep in the bunk beds and you know, but 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.160 that was our life. That was like, you know, most 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:49.560 of it, and we never lost that. We never lost that. 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:53.520 We were always like quoting movies and being clowns and 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:55.440 like just being kids. You know. It's I think it 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.600 attributed to how playful we were when we were creating 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:02.880 our characters because you you had to play and safe, dude, 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:06.399 and safe. We were safe because we weren't. We weren't 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:10.000 like you know, we weren't taking each other down for it, 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:13.200 and there's no competition. We all had a very specific contribution, 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:16.360 and we all stood to that lane and we respected 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.080 each other's lanes, and and it was just great because 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:21.560 I knew that it was funny if he was, you know, laughing, 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:24.159 and like we were run jokes by each other, like oh, 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:25.920 you think this is funny, you think this is so that. 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.360 So that's kind of kind of kind of how I work. 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:30.960