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Speaker 1: Welcome to Inside the Draft, a weekly preview of the

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Speaker 1: upcoming NFL Draft with insiders from around the country. Well,

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Speaker 1: welcome in for another installment of Inside the Draft as

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Speaker 1: we gear up for the NFL Draft, which is just

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Speaker 1: a month away, which is crazy. We've been talking about

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Speaker 1: the draft and talking about it and finally we can

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Speaker 1: almost see the light at the end of the tunnel

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Speaker 1: as we're just a month away. We are inside the

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Speaker 1: Indiana Union Construction Radio studios. I am Casey Valueing Today

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Speaker 1: our Draft insider comes from CBS Sports. It is Josh Edwards,

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Speaker 1: who's an NFL Draft writer for CBS Sports. Josh, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for your time. How you doing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to be here. Indianapolis is one of the

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Speaker 1: more intriguing teams there at the top of the draft.

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Speaker 1: So excited to talk about the possibilities with you. Oh,

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Speaker 1: for sure. I mean that's been one of the things

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Speaker 1: that you know, we've been we've been in the forefront

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Speaker 1: for sure. You know, the Combine came and went, and

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Speaker 1: that was a very promising team that people were talking about.

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's one of those things you have

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Speaker 1: a bad year, you don't really want to talk about it,

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Speaker 1: but this time of year it makes things a little

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Speaker 1: bit more, you know, fun a little bit. You know,

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Speaker 1: the intrigue is there, for sure, no question. Sometimes I

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Speaker 1: think you have to, you know, go through those down

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Speaker 1: seasons to really get the reward from it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's how Indianapolis got Andrew Luck initially and now potentially

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Speaker 1: returning to the rookie quarterback well again. So I'm sure

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Speaker 1: we'll be talking about the options that are available to

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Speaker 1: them at number four. Overall, it's for sure. We heard

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Speaker 1: Chris Baller talk about that at the NFL Combine. Where

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Speaker 1: you don't get in this position often, but when you do,

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Speaker 1: I mean you really work at getting there. It was

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Speaker 1: hard to sit through it, but you know, the Colts

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Speaker 1: do sit at the number five, at the number four

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Speaker 1: spot in this upcoming draft, and that's kind of where

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Speaker 1: I want to start. The NFL Combine came and went.

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Speaker 1: We've seen a handful of pro days, all of the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks have thrown. We saw, you know, Anthony Richardson's Pro

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Speaker 1: days coming up later this week. But here we are

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Speaker 1: lot of question at what's going on at the top

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Speaker 1: of the draft. When was the last time you can

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Speaker 1: remember something like this where we're so close, where you

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Speaker 1: have four guys that are the top of a certain

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Speaker 1: position where you don't really know where they're all going

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Speaker 1: to fall. Yeah, there was a little bit of mystery

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Speaker 1: last year with the quarterback position, but it was not

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Speaker 1: as entertaining of a conversation. Right, We're not dealing with

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Speaker 1: the same type of athletes as we were in last

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Speaker 1: draft cycle. So you see a lot more of those

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Speaker 1: top options in this class, similar to what we had

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Speaker 1: saw in twenty eighteen with the Baker Mayfield, Josh Darnold,

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold rather Allan Lamar Jackson that class where everybody

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Speaker 1: kind of had a different opinion on how they should

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Speaker 1: be ranked, and there wasn't truly a Joe Burrow or

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Speaker 1: the point where some people even felt that the decision

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Speaker 1: by the Browns was down to Sam Darnold or Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen even seventy two hours before draft night. Right. So

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Speaker 1: I think this year is very similar because when you

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Speaker 1: lot of prospects to get you excited, but none of

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Speaker 1: would hope with you know, you're a franchise quarterback like

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Speaker 1: I talked about with Trevor Lawrence or Joe Burrow. Now

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Speaker 1: I notice in your latest mock draft you have the

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Speaker 1: Colts at four trading up to get Will Levis at

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Speaker 1: number three. Now, I want to talk about Will Levis

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Speaker 1: and you know, his pro day and all the Kentucky

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Speaker 1: That's kind of the other the other guy that could

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't sound like Will Anderson is definitely going

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Speaker 1: Is that just because it's the quarterback position, or is

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Speaker 1: I think it's certainly quarterback motivated, especially now that the

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Speaker 1: I do think the quarterback availability is going to spur

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Speaker 1: but I know you're also dialed into Kentucky football and recruiting,

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Speaker 1: so safe to say you've seen a lot more Will

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Speaker 1: but a lot of mock drafts still have him going

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Speaker 1: will Levis kind of so all over the place. Well,

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Speaker 1: A lot of it is predicated on situation, having a

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Speaker 1: is it almost like you almost get a better evaluation

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Speaker 1: is all about potential. It's all about what these nineteen

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Speaker 1: rarely in the NFL do you take a quarterback with

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Speaker 1: the sense that I think he has the lowest four

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Speaker 1: Colts if they were to take Richardson. He's a little

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Speaker 1: much like what Philadelphia did with Jalen Hurts. I think

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Speaker 1: Josh Edwards, draft draft writer for CBS Sports. Now, Josh,

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Speaker 1: we've been talking a lot about quarterbacks. The Colts sitting

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Speaker 1: it for needing a potential franchise quarterback, so that makes

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Speaker 1: a lot of sense. But I want to dive into

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Speaker 1: to know what the evaluation of a guy like Jalen

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Speaker 1: Carter will end up being. But it seems like, you know, probation,

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Speaker 1: he still a top ten prospects you think even though

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Speaker 1: the legal matters. Yeah, I think it's a layered conversation.

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Speaker 1: When you look at what he has put on tape,

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Speaker 1: you see an elite player that warrants consideration even at

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Speaker 1: is so difficult to find interior defensive line moment of

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Speaker 1: the impact that DeForrest Fuckner has been able to make

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Speaker 1: this is just general maturity issues that you know comes

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Speaker 1: If you come away thinking, Okay, maybe there's a little

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Speaker 1: a month from the draft, in your eyes, who has

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Speaker 1: There have been, you know, a handful of players that

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Speaker 1: into your into your line of scrimmage. That's a player

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Speaker 1: not know for a couple of years. So I'll call

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Speaker 1: there's the best player in that draft in twenty twenty three. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's a good question. I will say Alabama's Will Anderson Junior,

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Speaker 1: about so much. Well, there you go. Josh Edwards, draft

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Speaker 1: writer for CBS Sports. You can follow him on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at Edwards CBS. I know you're busy, but what are

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Speaker 1: you working on right now that people can go check out? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I've actually got a three round mock draft that's

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Speaker 1: So that's been exciting. Well, there you go, Josh Edwards,

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Speaker 1: draft writer for CBS Sports Josh, great to talk with you.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it and thanks again the next couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. It all comes to fruition here. Absolutely, anytime

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