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Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Oh here we going on Monday?

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Speaker 1: What a crazy, crazy Sunday of NFL football? Carson Wentz,

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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariona chopping it out? Was it twenty seventeen? We

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Speaker 1: are live, It's the Herd one hour from now. Where

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Speaker 1: Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, plenty of both.

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Speaker 3: Jmack.

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Speaker 1: All the years I've been watching football, there has never

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Speaker 1: been a Sunday like that. Ever been a Sunday like that.

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Speaker 1: Seven games had winning scores in the last three minutes.

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Speaker 1: That's the most in forty eight year, and most went

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Speaker 1: the opposite way of how you thought they would end up.

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Speaker 1: That was easily in my adult life. The weirdest Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay led like what was it? Twenty three to

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Speaker 1: six at home with a better quarterback in the fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter and needed a walk off kick to win over

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Speaker 1: the awful Jets.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Falcons every week, heart attack in the final seconds.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: So let's start with the Bears.

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams Ben Jonson beat the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Two things were abundantly clear.

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Speaker 1: Number one that Ben Jonson the coach and Caleb Williams

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Speaker 1: the quarterback had some real harmony.

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Speaker 3: They finally found a rhythm.

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Speaker 1: We've been waiting for that couple of great drives and

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Speaker 1: the first half start of the third eight different players

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Speaker 1: saw the ball. The screen game was working, creativity, structure

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Speaker 1: the run game. In fact, over the course of the

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Speaker 1: game there were twenty eight pass attempts that were twenty

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Speaker 1: nine rush attempts. This team tons of offensive talent, Caleb Williams, structure, creativity. Now,

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Speaker 1: Caleb can be more accurate throwing it downfield that he

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Speaker 1: can on a six yard out.

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Speaker 3: But it was it was rhythm.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I said, I don't need to win

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Speaker 1: progress advancement. Can you show me rhythm outside of the

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Speaker 1: first drive. So that was abundantly clear. They found some

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Speaker 1: of that, imperfect, but they found it. The second thing

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Speaker 1: that is abundantly clear is Mike is gone in Dallas's

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Speaker 1: defense is absolutely atrocious. It is awful. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how Cole Comet and Dj Moore can get that open

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Speaker 1: in the end zone, Like I don't know on third down,

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Speaker 1: they can't get anybody off the field. Matt Eberflus got

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Speaker 1: completely worked by the guy that replaced him, Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Dallas is bad. And so there's two things. Dallas made

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson look like Seahawks. Russell Wilson and Caleb Williams

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Speaker 1: got loose. And again I said, we said on this show,

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Speaker 1: it's just you gotta get away from the W's. They

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Speaker 1: don't have the Packers talent or Detroit's. They're not going

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Speaker 1: to be the Eagles of the Rams. But let's put

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Speaker 1: it in proper context. You saw something like pass run

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Speaker 1: screen game. It's not a lack of talent. They got talent.

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Speaker 1: I didn't need a win, move the football. I didn't

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Speaker 1: see a sack. There were no sacks. It was layered.

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Speaker 1: They were better on third down and the trick plays.

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Speaker 1: They hit the open guys. Now, I still think Caleb,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's mechanics, anxiety, or he's rushing it.

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Speaker 1: He can dirt balls from five feet away drives Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 3: Crazy.

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Speaker 1: Coaches design plays, the clever, creative ones. Even their trick

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Speaker 1: play wasn't smooth. It worked. The Cowboys, you know, weren't

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Speaker 1: covering it. But Caleb's got a power arm. He's a

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Speaker 1: remarkable athlete. This is a really smart, structured coach who

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Speaker 3: And so I got everything.

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Speaker 1: I got Ben's creativity, I got Caleb's horsepower. It worked

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Speaker 1: at least it worked against Dallas.

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Speaker 3: But that's okay.

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Speaker 1: I had said, opening up with Brian Flores and then

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Speaker 1: a new system. It's okay to occasionally get a bad defense.

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Speaker 1: most of it. And I thought Chicago at home did.

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Speaker 1: I thought they got momentum, they were creative, and it

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Speaker 1: You can see when he's upset, but balance clever, creative

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Speaker 5: Here was Ben after It'll be fun for tonight and

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Speaker 5: then we're onto the next one. You know, we're behind

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Speaker 5: the eight ball here for one and two, and we

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Speaker 5: got to get back to five hundred here. It's early,

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Speaker 5: thought those guys were committed to that here this week,

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Speaker 5: good things happened. When you're playing hard, you're playing physical,

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Speaker 5: I thought that's what happened here today.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so Brian Flores, that was tough. And then the

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Speaker 3: Dallas rolled.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now here come the Raiders, a team that's not

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Speaker 1: very good. The quarterback will give you the ball back

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Speaker 1: a rough opening act. As you remember in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: We told you one of our favorite bets that week

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Speaker 1: was Minnesota playing Chicago. Detroit was a rough spot, but

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Speaker 1: they took care of business. They should beat the Raiders

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Speaker 1: But you got the Saints on the schedule, You're going

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Speaker 1: they are, Pittsburgh at home. There's some wins here. Nine

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Speaker 3: You gotta take care of the games you should win.

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Speaker 1: And it was pretty clear yesterday between Caleb and Ben

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Speaker 1: and the playmakers, you got to win that game. And

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Speaker 1: they did comfortably. That's progress, okay. In one of the

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Speaker 1: weirdest games ever, the Rams dominate Philadelphia in the first half,

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Speaker 1: and then Nick Ceriani, I've never been the biggest fan,

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Speaker 1: had to go in at halftime and make adjustments and

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Speaker 3: We've seen it the last two times they play. Except

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Speaker 3: two areas.

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Speaker 1: They don't have big, physical corners and AJ Brown can

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Speaker 1: they do not match up with AJ Brown. At all

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Speaker 1: ten target, six catches, most yards all season. He's just

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Speaker 1: second problem the Rams have They're not very good at center.

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Speaker 1: the Rams. We saw it last year when Jalen Carter

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Speaker 1: blew up the Rams offense in the snow to seal

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Speaker 1: a Philly win. And we saw yesterday two block kicks.

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Speaker 1: Then on a fourth and one the Rams try to

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Speaker 1: run it and went backwards. So between aj Brown manipulating

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Speaker 1: the smaller Ram corners and the rams inability to block

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Speaker 1: at the trade deadline. And I know I know all

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Speaker 1: that you are saying this morning, Hey, Carl, I thought

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts wasn't good from the pocket. Well, he had

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Speaker 1: minus one passing yards in the first half. It was

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Speaker 1: embarrassing and Jalen has these abs where he looks like

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Speaker 1: he does not know what he's doing. Got to Nick

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Speaker 1: Sirianni's credit. Sirianni listens to his players and relates to

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Speaker 1: his players, and they went in at half and figured

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Speaker 1: it out, get the ball to AJ Brown. So nobody

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Speaker 1: in this league wins as imperfectly as the Eagles. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay does not lose ten point leads. He never

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Speaker 1: loses twenty six to seven. Matt Stafford missed a couple

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Speaker 1: of open receivers, but for Sean McVay to lose a

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Speaker 1: game leading twenty six to seven, that just doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia's defense is very good, but it was those block

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Speaker 1: kicks and the fourth and one that was the difference.

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Speaker 1: So between AJ Brown and the defensive interior line of

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, the Rams do not match up with Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: in those two spots. So Nick Siriani and Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 1: deserve a ton of credit for the second half. And

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Speaker 1: AJ Brown, who is an insane talent. They're listen. He

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Speaker 1: matches up well against almost everybody, but against the Rams.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised it took halftime regrouping to figure it out.

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Speaker 1: They can't they can't stop him. There's nothing they can do.

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Speaker 1: He's a terrible matchup for them. And here's aja after

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Speaker 1: I truly believe.

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Speaker 6: Man, we got so many good players on his team,

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Speaker 6: you know, and in at times, you know, you can

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Speaker 6: feel like we're being conservative, and and uh, I don't

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Speaker 6: you know, I think it should. You know, let's your

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Speaker 1: It is, it's going to be like that. I will say,

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Speaker 1: it is the craziest day I've ever seen. I've never

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Speaker 1: seen a game like that. I officially, I'm just not

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Speaker 1: going to count that Rams loss on the Blazing five.

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Speaker 1: It never existed. I'm just not counting it. I don't

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Speaker 1: history of the show, I could ever win a game

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Speaker 1: like that. But then again, Jmack had the Falcons over Carolina.

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Speaker 3: It was thirty nothing.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, listen, it was a bad day, but

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Speaker 1: I want to let you listen to the Eagle Radio

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Speaker 1: network on the block kick that ended up sealing it

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Speaker 1: for the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: Here we go, they blocked to the last the bullet spunted.

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Speaker 3: The kick is a lost blocking, its blocked. It's poked

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Speaker 1: News Davis Curtly twenty ten cuts down game over. I

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Speaker 1: mean you could say it was bad luck. It wasn't.

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Speaker 1: They did it twice. They blew them up on the

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Speaker 1: fourth and one. They did it last year in the

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Speaker 1: NFC Divisional round. Like the Rams can't block the Eagles

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Speaker 1: interior studs, they can't block them. I mean now fourth

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Speaker 1: and one wasn't even close. So halfs off to Philadelphia, which.

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Speaker 3: I mean they listen.

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Speaker 1: Part of football is finding the liability of the team.

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Speaker 1: You face, it took them a half, but the Rams

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Speaker 1: can't block their interior and they can't cover aj Brown

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Speaker 1: into the Philly their credit, they discovered it, lean into

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Speaker 1: it and won j Mac.

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Speaker 3: That was nuts?

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Speaker 1: What what is a just a nutty day?

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Speaker 4: By the way, not only did I have the Falcons,

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Speaker 1: So on a Monday, Colin Wright Colin wrong, and here

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Speaker 1: we go where Colin was right. Jim Harbaugh world's best

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Speaker 3: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: The Packers led ten to nothing in the fourth and

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Speaker 1: Where Colin was raw. I have defended CJ. Stroud for

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Speaker 1: Last two years, they can't get the on line right.

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Speaker 1: This kid has cleaned up his entire game again. Last

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Speaker 1: Coming out of Ohio State, I thought Marvin Harrison was

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's happened. He's not separating. They don't

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Speaker 3: They don't target him. I mean he was.

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Speaker 1: They're one hundred and thirteenth in FCF and scoring offense.

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Speaker 1: I want to know though, do players look at it

436
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Speaker 1: and think the Bears, I mean, like the Bear players today?

437
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Speaker 1: Is it self belief in that locker room? Or is

438
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Speaker 1: there a sense Dallas is bad? Like were you ever

439
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Speaker 1: on a team that you were struggling to find your footing?

440
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Speaker 1: You beat a really bad team, how does that usually

441
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Speaker 1: translate the following week? Because they have the very average

442
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Speaker 1: Raiders coming up?

443
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Speaker 7: It's too Number one, never apologize for a win. Never,

444
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Speaker 7: Like we would say that in every locker room ever,

445
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 7: Like it would just be like, never apologize. I don't

446
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Speaker 7: care how bad they were, how much disarray they're in.

447
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 7: It's really hard to get a win. Like, we put

448
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 7: our heart and soul into this thing. We're going to

449
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 7: celebrate it on a Sunday. But now here's the thing.

450
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Speaker 7: Win or lose that game plan, that celebration, all of

451
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Speaker 7: that that has to just kind of evaporate and go away.

452
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Speaker 7: It's like it never happened. You know, maybe there's a

453
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Speaker 7: feel good feeling. I think the hard thing after a

454
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Speaker 7: win is you've got to correct the things that need

455
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Speaker 7: to be corrected. Sometimes in a loss, you know, you

456
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Speaker 7: look at everything under a magnifying glass and you're like, okay,

457
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Speaker 7: We've got to get a little bit better in the

458
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 7: details here. After a win, sometimes you sweep things under

459
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Speaker 7: the rug in terms of like technique or hey, we

460
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 7: got our way with one here, and you don't necessarily

461
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Speaker 7: improve as the season's going going on. So I think

462
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Speaker 7: they'll be fine. Ben Johnson seems like a little bit

463
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Speaker 7: of a workaholic, and I don't think I don't think

464
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Speaker 7: he's going to let him off the hook that way.

465
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Speaker 7: But I think a game like that for Chicago, with

466
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Speaker 7: the scrutiny that their quarterback has been under, is going

467
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Speaker 7: to give some confidence to a team that needs a

468
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Speaker 7: little bit of confidence.

469
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Speaker 1: One of the things that I don't think we talk

470
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Speaker 1: about in the media enough, and I don't think fans

471
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Speaker 1: realize it, is that even practice is hard in football.

472
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Speaker 1: You know, basketball practice you get a good sweat. Baseball

473
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: practice you're in the cage. Football practice you tackle and

474
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Speaker 1: get hurt and the weather's off and awful. So in

475
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Speaker 1: the NFL, just even when you don't get sacked, but

476
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Speaker 1: you get hit and you get hit like justin Herbert

477
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Speaker 1: fourteen times and pressured fifty five times. I'm watching Herbert

478
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Speaker 1: yesterday and I'm like, I hope people realize what it

479
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Speaker 1: is like to play in the game. Forget just the

480
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Speaker 1: sacks where you're getting hammered fourteen or fifteen times. I

481
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Speaker 1: think if if Harbaugh could go to a lab and

482
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Speaker 1: build a quarterback, it would be Justin Herbert. I mean,

483
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Speaker 1: when I watched him yesterday, I'm like, do people understand

484
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Speaker 1: how often he's get hit?

485
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Speaker 7: Yeah? And I think he would build Andrew Luck. And

486
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Speaker 7: I think Justin Herbert has all those qualities that Andrew

487
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Speaker 7: Luck had. You know, I think when I think of Harbaugh,

488
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Speaker 7: I think of what he did at Stanford, and it

489
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Speaker 7: wasn't a pass first offense there either.

490
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Speaker 4: You know.

491
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Speaker 7: It was a hard nosed, physical, inside the tackles running team.

492
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Speaker 7: And that's I think the identity that he came in

493
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Speaker 7: with last year. And everyone said, oh, you're not using

494
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Speaker 7: Justin Herbert enough, he's not throwing the ball enough. And

495
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Speaker 7: Harbob basically said, listen, I'm going to get the best

496
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Speaker 7: of Justin Herbert by having this philosophy. And now you're

497
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 7: seeing it this year. You're seeing Justin Herbert put the

498
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Speaker 7: team on his back, playing like an MVP, making all

499
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Speaker 7: world throws in the pocket, feeling healthy enough to do it.

500
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Speaker 7: I mean, listen, I'm old enough to remember when this

501
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 7: dude was playing with like broken fingers and all the

502
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 7: broken ribs and all these types of things. Down two

503
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Speaker 7: scores in the fourth quarter, still in the game. That's

504
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Speaker 7: not a recipe for a long career. It's not a

505
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Speaker 7: recipe for playing great in the playoffs. I think Harbaugh

506
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Speaker 7: has the vision for what Herbert can be, and everyone's

507
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 7: buying in. Everyone's buying in. I think the opponent is

508
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 7: starting to buy in a little bit too, Like, oh, shoot, man,

509
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 7: this guy is one of the elite quarterbacks. You know,

510
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 7: even when we call the perfect play defensively, he goes

511
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Speaker 7: above the x's and o's and makes stuff happen. And

512
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Speaker 7: I think that, you know, protecting him a little bit

513
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Speaker 7: is a way to unleash him, and I think Harbaugh's

514
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Speaker 7: done a great job of it.

515
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what happened at halftime, because

516
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Speaker 1: you guys only have fifteen minutes, and a couple of

517
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Speaker 1: those minutes are burned.

518
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Speaker 7: I think it's thirteen, Yeah, it's thirteen minutes, depending on

519
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 7: the stadium.

520
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Speaker 1: So Philadelphia trails twenty six to seven. They have minus

521
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Speaker 1: one yards passing. They go in for their thirteen quick

522
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Speaker 1: minutes as they're drinking gatorade and have an orange license.

523
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Speaker 1: They come out and the offense is totally reborn. What

524
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Speaker 1: did Philadelphia, in your opinion, do at halftime to literally

525
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Speaker 1: rework the entire game plan.

526
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Speaker 7: Yeah, one of the biggest things you do at halftime,

527
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 7: as you use the bathroom, sometimes you got to hold

528
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 7: it and like it's tough, you feel a lot better

529
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Speaker 7: than the second half. That's a fun fact in case,

530
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 7: in case you wanted to know. But I think the

531
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 7: other thing that can happen is you get a consensus,

532
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 7: you have a short meeting. It's very quick, and sometimes

533
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 7: it can be got that big like you know, waffle

534
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 7: house call sheet looking like thing and you say, hey,

535
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 7: we got to get Aj the ball. They're leaving AJ

536
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Speaker 7: one on one backside of three by one formations, meaning

537
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 7: three eligible receivers on one side. Our ex receiver, our

538
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 7: AJ Brown is by himself backside. We got to give

539
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Speaker 7: him opportunities. That's what I saw. I saw a team

540
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Speaker 7: that came in at halftime and said, hey, AJ needs

541
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Speaker 7: to be a part of this. And you know, we've

542
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Speaker 7: seen kind of devo receivers like flip out on the

543
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 7: sidelines and that kind of thing over the years. I

544
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Speaker 7: don't think that's what we've seen out of aj this year.

545
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Speaker 7: He's had a he's kind of had a good in

546
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 7: a good mental state. He's been doing a great job blocking,

547
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 7: and I think that's the better way to handle it

548
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 7: as a talented receiver coming at halftime, be like, hey,

549
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 7: I got my guy. These guys cannot hold me one

550
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 7: on one. And that's what I saw, and that when

551
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Speaker 7: AJ Brown is cooking, When AJ Brown is getting opportunities,

552
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 7: the Philly offense unlocks. And you know, the poise and

553
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 7: the demeanor of Jalen Hurts is awesome, but AJ Brown

554
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 7: to me, is the difference maker in a big way

555
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 7: for that for that scheme.

556
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Speaker 1: So I picked the Seahawks to be one of my

557
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: surprise teams. Like I love the NFL Draft. I thought

558
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: they had their third straight excellent draft. But I also

559
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 1: love how they're using Sam Darnold. You know, everybody's like

560
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: his JS and and number one. I'm like, yeah, it

561
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: looks like to me, and they got this kid, this

562
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: fifth round kid.

563
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Speaker 3: Out of Colorado State. He looks like he's a big

564
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Speaker 3: time player. But I don't know.

565
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Speaker 1: I just I watched the speed, I watched the velocity.

566
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Speaker 1: I mean that first half yesterday against the Saints matt

567
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: it looked like a pro team and a really good

568
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: college team like it was. You don't see that in

569
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Speaker 1: the NFL very much. Where Seattle had the ball seven

570
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: minutes and led thirty eight to six. I think the

571
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Speaker 1: Seattle thing, I mean, they blew the Steelers out in Pittsburgh,

572
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Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh's now gonna winning record. What do you make

573
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Speaker 1: of how they're using Donald?

574
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Speaker 7: Well, I think it was a swing and a miss

575
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Speaker 7: week one. You know, Week one, they played the Niners,

576
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Speaker 7: and they got away from what they wanted to be.

577
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Speaker 7: They became this like drop back, shotgun team without a

578
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Speaker 7: full back. And I think Mike McDonald did a good

579
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Speaker 7: job of kind of correcting the market a little bit

580
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Speaker 7: going into week two. No, no, no, no, that's not

581
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Speaker 7: the vision. Here's the vision. I want to be a

582
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 7: downhill play action team. I want to be under center more,

583
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Speaker 7: I want to move the pocket. I want to have

584
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Speaker 7: a fullback in the game. That's what I want to be.

585
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Speaker 7: And here's how it fits with our offense and our

586
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 7: special teams and our defense. And I think message was

587
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 7: heard loud and clear. This is one of the best

588
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 7: offenses the last two weeks. Yesterday was like you said

589
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 7: it was, it was big brother little brother scoring on

590
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 7: special teams. But you know, really, when you look at

591
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 7: the pass protection around Sam Darnald, I think that's the

592
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 7: key for him. And JSN is one of the game's

593
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 7: best receivers that people don't talk about, don't know about.

594
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 7: He kind of had a little bit of a flu

595
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 7: game yesterday where he came out and you know, looked

596
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 7: like Michael Jordan at times. But when offensive line, I mean,

597
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 7: get to fire out and play run action at least

598
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 7: half the time, it helps everything. And I think that's

599
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 7: the thing that some people do well. Some people talk

600
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 7: about it but don't do it as well. Seattle, I

601
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 7: would say week two, in week three, they've figured that out,

602
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 7: and so you know, if you can continue that, I

603
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 7: think that Sam Darnold can have the kind of year

604
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 7: that he had last year. Without Kevin O'Connell, without Justin Jefferson.

605
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Speaker 7: He's playing really really good football right now.

606
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Speaker 1: So I do think Worthy and Rashi Rice would help.

607
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: But I tend to believe offenses are about the play designer,

608
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Speaker 1: the quarterback and the offensive line, and an offensive line

609
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Speaker 1: can take an average back and make him a B

610
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Speaker 1: plus back. I look at Kansas City and I don't

611
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: care if the receivers come back. They can't run the ball.

612
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Speaker 1: The pass protection, I don't think Mahomes always trusted. I

613
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Speaker 1: think we have to be honest about what Kansas City

614
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Speaker 1: is right now. Offensively, I mean, they're like twenty second

615
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Speaker 1: in time of possession. I don't think they're going to

616
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Speaker 1: be a very good offense. I think they'll get slightly better,

617
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: but I mean with Mahomes and Reid, they can't pick

618
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: up first downs. I mean, do you think the two

619
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: new receivers or the two receivers coming back will make

620
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: a huge difference.

621
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it'd be a big difference. But you know,

622
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 7: Kansas City almost feels like this this team to me

623
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 7: that they're almost like just like bored right now. It's

624
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 7: almost like, yeah, we're just gonna kind of like like

625
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 7: an NBA team that's just like, yeah, we'll wait till

626
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 7: the playoffs to play our best football. You know, you know,

627
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 7: like that's almost the mindset. Not that they're not trying.

628
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 7: I know that they're trying, but they just seem hout

629
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 7: to sink. I think they're not Like we talked about

630
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 7: all those things earlier, about playing on rhythm and spreading

631
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 7: the ball around and like put helping out the guys

632
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 7: around you in terms of offensive line, They're just doing

633
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 7: what they always did, and they're less talented than they

634
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 7: used to be. You know, injuries are a thing. Age

635
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 7: is a thing. You know, maybe some some of maybe

636
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 7: like people have like figured them out and studied them

637
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 7: a little bit, so they maybe need to get a

638
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 7: little refresher and sometimes they can be their own worst enemy,

639
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 7: like just getting too cute at times. But no, I

640
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 7: think this is a team that'll be relevant at the

641
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 7: end of the year. They just might not get to

642
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 7: play it at Arrowhead, that's all.

643
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: You know.

644
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 7: They might be a road team the entire playoffs. And

645
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 7: again I think they're They're just one of those teams

646
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 7: that they would be fine with it. They're resilient that way,

647
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 7: and I also would not be surprised to see them

648
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 7: being active at the trade deadline.

649
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think there's a I think the Rams

650
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: need a corner if they want to be you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think there are some teams that just

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Speaker 1: need things and you can't solve them in your own camp.

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Speaker 7: Finally, there's a yeah, there's a you know that I'm

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Speaker 7: watching the Tyreek Hills situation very closely because if that

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Speaker 7: team gets really bad, you know, would would that make

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Speaker 7: sense with Tyreek Hill going back to Kansas City ever

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Speaker 7: be a thing I'm curious about that that would change

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Speaker 7: what that offense would look like right away.

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Speaker 3: Finally, I want to go back to Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: I said this last week that I always thought there

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Speaker 1: were things you could change about a quarterback. You can't

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Speaker 1: change their size, but you can you can't change certain traits.

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Speaker 1: And I always said, man, you find these reckless quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: reckless early, reckless late, like that's the that's some guys

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Speaker 1: are just just to just play with a chip. They

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Speaker 1: play a little loose, like Jay Cutler was like, ohways

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Speaker 1: to me, like big time talent.

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Speaker 3: He was gonna throw bad picks.

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers did that, and Josh Allen has literally eliminated

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Speaker 1: like his flaw. And I don't know who to give

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Speaker 1: credit for, but the fact in his last twelve games

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Speaker 1: he's got thirty touchdowns and one pick. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen anything like that. Well, what do you

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Speaker 1: make of it?

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Speaker 7: He's incredible. I mean every single year, at the end

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Speaker 7: of the year, you could point to this is the

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Speaker 7: thing that he's improved on. I think he deserves a

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Speaker 7: lot of credit, but I think the coaches as well,

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Speaker 7: like he was reckless with his body and reckless with

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Speaker 7: the ball at the beginning of his career. Then he

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Speaker 7: became just reckless with his body and less reckless with

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Speaker 7: the ball. Now I don't think he's reckless at all, hardly.

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Speaker 7: And I think what they've done is they've said, Okay,

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Speaker 7: you want to be crazy, you know, with your scrambles

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Speaker 7: and all this kind of stuff, Let's do some design

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Speaker 7: quarterback runs. Let's run you know, like we're faking into

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Speaker 7: the running back but you're actually reading it. And then

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Speaker 7: let's run counter pulling the guard, pulling the tackle, and

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Speaker 7: it's quarterback run game. It's a lot of college run game.

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Speaker 7: But it's almost like they're saying, hey, you get your six, seven,

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Speaker 7: eight yards and get down, or at least like as

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Speaker 7: a quarterback. I know this from from personal experience. When

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Speaker 7: you know the hits coming, it's not nearly as bad.

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Speaker 7: It's it's when you don't know that it's coming that

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Speaker 7: that's kind of where injuries can happen. So I think

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Speaker 7: there's like a little bit more design in a little

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Speaker 7: bit more structure to him as as sort of like

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Speaker 7: being reckless quote unquote, like it's almost like the illusion

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Speaker 7: of reckless, but it's really within the play design. And

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Speaker 7: I just think he's been he's been awesome. Teammates love him,

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Speaker 7: the stadium loves him, you know all those things. I

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Speaker 7: think the opponent fears him. I think it's really cool

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Speaker 7: to see, you know, he is definitely on the Mount Rushmore,

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Speaker 7: on the podium, whatever you want to say with the

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Speaker 7: top quarterbacks in the game right now.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff as always, Matt Hasselbeck, my friend, thanks on

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Speaker 1: a Monday for stopping by see Kohin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh. It was the nuttiest day all week.

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Speaker 1: Jmack kept telling me Atlanta looks tasty, and I said,

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Speaker 1: J Mack, I can show you receipts of thirty years

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Speaker 1: betting the Falcons. And but there were some genuine surprises.

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Speaker 1: I mean, green Bay with extra prep to lose at

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Speaker 1: Cleveland is a job dropper and in the.

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Speaker 3: Box almost squandering.

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Speaker 1: A lead six leagues at home with Baker I mean,

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Speaker 1: now we had one major upset, we almost had four other.

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Speaker 4: Ones major Colin, let me give you the list of

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks who threw for under two hundred yards yesterday. Matthew Stafford,

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Speaker 4: Jordan Love, Russell Wilson, Kyler, Murray bo Nix, Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 4: Bryce Young threw for one hundred and twenty one yards

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Speaker 4: and one thirty to nothing yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Was crazy. Nothing's making sense. How is Stafford held to

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Speaker 3: two hundred yards?

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Speaker 7: I don't really understand.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting is I mean, when they came, they had

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Speaker 1: a chance to seal that game. Pooka dropped the touchdown.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't easy, no, no, no, not easy, but he

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Speaker 1: dropped that and then you think, okay, they'll get a

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Speaker 1: field goal and it got blocked and that was the game. Like,

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Speaker 1: if you're on the road against Philadelphia, you got to

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Speaker 1: make one of those two. You either got to make

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Speaker 1: the field goal or you got to catch the touchdown.

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Speaker 1: And when they missed both, I was like, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: you cannot do that against Philadelphia because Philadelphia in the

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Speaker 1: second half, I mean you saw it, they just decided

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Speaker 1: we're going to go to AJ Brown and the Rams

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Speaker 1: don't have the personnel to stop that.

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Speaker 4: So do you still trade aj Brown if you're the

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Speaker 4: Eagles or do you just hold on to them?

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Speaker 7: What's the move here?

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Speaker 1: I pulled that take over to a rest area. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna get a dunkin Donuts. We'll wait a little bit

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Speaker 1: on that.

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Speaker 3: That's good.