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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. Hello and welcome,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre, Tuesday, March second, Monster,

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Speaker 1: NFL Monday. Holy cow, what a big story that broke

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Speaker 1: up kind of mid morning. J J. Watt one of

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Speaker 1: the premier defensive lineman over the last decade in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: three time Defensive Player of the Year. He has stunned

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Speaker 1: everybody and signed with the Arizona Cardinals. It's a two

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Speaker 1: year deal worth thirty one million, kind of in funny money. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and I say that I'll get to that in a

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Speaker 1: second of why it's called funny money. Um. It's a

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Speaker 1: massive signing for the Arizona Cardinals, who are um on

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Speaker 1: the cusp of something impressive. Uh. They just missed the

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Speaker 1: playoffs in the final game of the season. Um, when

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Speaker 1: they had their backup quarterbacks start for three quarters because

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray was hurt. It is a bit of a

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Speaker 1: stunner in that the Cardinals were not rumored at all

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Speaker 1: outside of DeAndre Hopkins lobbying on Instagram like a week ago.

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Speaker 1: Um for J J. Watt, everybody had all the Browns.

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Speaker 1: He could go to Buffalo like no no, he went

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Speaker 1: to Arizona and listen, I don't want to dive too

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Speaker 1: deep into this. Nobody cares. But it always surprises me

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Speaker 1: how no NFL reporters have what's coming in terms of

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Speaker 1: big stories like it. It just came out of left field,

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Speaker 1: like nobody even rumored well Arizona could make sense. That

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Speaker 1: means two things. The Arizona front office is super tight

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Speaker 1: lipped because remember DeAndre Hopkins trade came out of nowhere.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I was a stunner. And that also means

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Speaker 1: that J. J. Watt Camp is respectable and that they

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Speaker 1: don't run their mouths all the time running to the

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Speaker 1: media to leak stuff. Now, we have a great interview

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Speaker 1: coming up with Newis scrugs Um, a NBC guy in Dallas, obviously,

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, Russell Wilson. It gets a little heated. We

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Speaker 1: like each other. We do make a on air wager

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Speaker 1: we have. I don't think I've ever done that on

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I might have done one bet with another guest,

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Speaker 1: but Neui and I make a wager. I think you'll

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Speaker 1: like it. Um, he will be paying me a state dinner.

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Speaker 1: Um next time he comes out here, because I know

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna win the bet, and I just we'll get

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Speaker 1: to that in a second. But Rob G stunned me

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Speaker 1: when he came out on this J. J. Wat stuff.

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Speaker 1: I said, oh, well with J. J. Watt, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'll wait for the money to come out and then

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Speaker 1: we'll chop it up tonight. And he just Rob G

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Speaker 1: just goes, oh, J J. What that phony? I'm just stunned.

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Speaker 1: J J. Watt a phony like this is one of

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Speaker 1: the premier class acts in the league. Okay, this guy

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Speaker 1: is just a tremendous football player, through and through worked.

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Speaker 1: He literally came from nowhere. He was delivering pizzas in

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Speaker 1: college and was a walk on at Wisconsin before totally

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Speaker 1: blowing up. That's admirable. Love the J. J. Watt story.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people think he's like, you know, kind

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Speaker 1: of posing on Instagram putting about how he works out

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Speaker 1: hard all the time. The guy works his butt off.

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Speaker 1: I mean, three time Defensive Player of the Year. That's

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Speaker 1: like Lawrence Taylor Territory. Now, I say he got funny

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Speaker 1: money because it's probably not thirty one mill twenty three

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Speaker 1: mills guaranteed, so twenty three over two years, which is

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Speaker 1: probably about market value for a thirty two year old

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Speaker 1: guy who's still a top ten defender against the run.

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Speaker 1: His skills against the pass have come down a little

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Speaker 1: bit because of injuries and age. But I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna note he's going to a defensive line where Oh,

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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones is gonna be there. Oh he's coming back

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Speaker 1: from the bicep injury. Yeah, that's kind of a big deal.

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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones is an elite, elite defensive lineman. Okay, And

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Speaker 1: remember Hassan Reddick was a based coming off the edge

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Speaker 1: last year. I assume they'll franchise tag him. So now

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you've got a really good defensive

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Speaker 1: line in a division with Matthew stafford Um probably Jimmy Garoppolo,

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Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson, probably Russell Wilson. So I think this

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Speaker 1: is a massive upgrade for Arizona getting J. J. Watt.

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Speaker 1: And now I'm gonna turn it over to Rob g

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Speaker 1: who just wants to put J. J. Watt on blast

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Speaker 1: because Rob's a hater. That's what he does, folks. He

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Speaker 1: hates Steph Curry, he hates j J. What the floor

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Speaker 1: is yours? I don't hate J J. Watt. Stop slandering

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Speaker 1: my name like this. I'm you know, just because I

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Speaker 1: have something negative to say about a golden boy does

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Speaker 1: not mean I'm a hater. But let me just say this,

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Speaker 1: J J. Watt is a fraud and and and it

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Speaker 1: comes down to this simple reason. There's more, but let

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Speaker 1: me just bring it to you very quickly. When all

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Speaker 1: this was going down in the free agency recruit process

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Speaker 1: was going through with J. J. Watt, ESPNS edward Er,

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Speaker 1: who's one of the most respected NFL reporters in the game.

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Speaker 1: I know you started off by saying none of these

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Speaker 1: guys knew anything. People knew something they just didn't know.

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Speaker 1: I think it was the Cardinals, but it was widely reported. Again.

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Speaker 1: Ared Warder says, number one thing he's looking for priority

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Speaker 1: is the word is winning a Super Bowl. Yet somehow J. J.

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Speaker 1: Watt went from the worst team in the a f

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Speaker 1: C South to the worst team in the NFC West,

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Speaker 1: presumably because that's the team that offering the most money.

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Speaker 1: So don't try to tell me that you care about

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Speaker 1: your legacy and you care about winning super Bowls and

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Speaker 1: you want to go to a contender and then go

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Speaker 1: to the worst team in a Division. Okay, time out,

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Speaker 1: time out, time out. Um, I just need a fact

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Speaker 1: check here for a moment. The Arizona Cardinals are not

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Speaker 1: the worst team in the NFC West. They were eight

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Speaker 1: and eight. Uh, the forty Niners were six and ten,

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Speaker 1: and I listen, Kyler Murray is better than Jimmy g

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Speaker 1: We would both agree, right, yes, So how are the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals the worst team in the division? Were the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl two years ago? Yeah? So were

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Speaker 1: it not for a series of injuries which can only

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Speaker 1: be explained by they saw black cat while walking under

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Speaker 1: the h a ladder and then you know, saying the

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Speaker 1: Hail Mary five times in front of a mirror. That's

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Speaker 1: the only reason I can explain what happened with the Uh.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was Candy Man. Whatever they did. You

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Speaker 1: ever see that movie in the theater? One of the

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Speaker 1: scariest movies I've ever seen in a theater. Candyman. Me

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Speaker 1: snuck in. It was freaking terrifying. My kids will not

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Speaker 1: watch that movie. I showed them the trailer on YouTube

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Speaker 1: back to your hating on take a sip for your

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Speaker 1: hate to rate and then proceed to dig in on J. J. Watt.

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Speaker 1: I'll check out the movie number one, but number two,

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Speaker 1: the Niners did all of those things because they had

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Speaker 1: probably the worst injury look of any team I can

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Speaker 1: remember in recent memory last season. And J J. Watt,

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Speaker 1: who likes to market himself as Captain America, as this

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Speaker 1: the money, and that's fine. You know, there's nothing wrong

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Speaker 1: with that. I would take the money if if someone

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Speaker 1: else offer me more money to leave this podcast, that'd

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Speaker 1: be no question. But I'm not positioning myself as a

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Speaker 1: guy who says I'm gonna do what's right, and what's

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Speaker 1: right is trying to win a super Bowl. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I think he's a fraud. And it's just like that,

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Speaker 1: that's the crux of it. But let me just say

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Speaker 1: this quickly as a decide um, when's the last time

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Speaker 1: JJ Watt did something nice in the community without a

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Speaker 1: camera crew. That's just that's just the question. Half a

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Speaker 1: year as I want to know that's cold blooded dog

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Speaker 1: his hors all right. Let me, oh jeez, let me.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know where to go. I had something

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Speaker 1: really interesting to say. Okay, here we go. Um. If

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Speaker 1: G and a lot of people on TV and radio

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Speaker 1: and podcast are saying, oh j J. Watts ring chasing.

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Speaker 1: If j J. Watt goes to Kansas City, yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: chasing a ring. He wants to just get a ring,

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Speaker 1: the money. And this is how athletes sometimes can't win.

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Speaker 1: Like Kevin Durant went to the Warriors, always a ring chaser.

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Speaker 1: But then if Kevin Durant had gone to the Detroit

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Speaker 1: Duranta bomb, He's not good. Like sometimes, Rob, you have

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Speaker 1: to admit these athletes cannot win. Yeah, that's fair. And

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Speaker 1: if there's a huge What if the Texans call up

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Speaker 1: Arizona and say, hey, give us Kyler Murray We'll give

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Speaker 1: I think that they are all in on Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: I think that that is their guy. Well, I'll take it,

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Speaker 1: and I'll step further and you'll probably laugh at this.

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Speaker 1: What if that deal happens, And I'll be honest, I'm

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Speaker 1: not ruling out anything with DeShawn Watson given what we

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Speaker 1: to play for this dogshit organization. I'm gonna go and

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Speaker 1: play Major League baseball. How fun would that be, Rob

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Speaker 1: this year. If he did that, I mean, we have

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Speaker 1: I don't recall. I don't think Bo Jackson. I don't

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Speaker 1: really remember if Bo Jackson said I'm not gonna play football.

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Speaker 1: Let me finish the baseball season. I think Dion Sanders

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Speaker 1: played like both in a weekend or something. I'd have

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Speaker 1: I do want to ask this one last aspect of J. J.

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Speaker 1: Watt before we get to Neuis scrugs, Rob g. You

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Speaker 1: think of the Arizona Cardinals, a contending team for a

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Speaker 1: playoff spot on the up and up? Who is their

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Speaker 1: locker room leader? Shoot Fitzgerald, Yeah, but he might not

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Speaker 1: want to say Hopkins, he don't talk, and Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: is very soft spoken. He rarely talks. J J. Watt.

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Speaker 1: There is a chance he goes into that locker room.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson is I think about to get dusted right.

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Speaker 1: I'm almost certain he's not returning. Maybe he returns on

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Speaker 1: the cheap, but like there there's no veteran there. If

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Speaker 1: odds for the Cardinal super Bowl at MGM did not

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Speaker 1: move at all. You know, I'm glad he's gonna I'm

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Speaker 1: glad he's gonna secure the bag. He's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: I love it. It is just crushing, all right. Rob

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Speaker 1: g obviously dislikes j J. What I and without further ado,

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Speaker 1: because usually these deals get done. Yeah, so they've always

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Speaker 1: I tried to use this analogy last week on Undisputed,

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Speaker 1: and UM, I don't know. I think they kind of

427
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Speaker 1: agreed with it. The outside perspective outside of Dallas, you're inside, okay, Well,

428
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Speaker 1: us people outside we just see, well, Jerry really likes

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Speaker 1: his quarterback. And it's like when you're dating a girl

430
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Speaker 1: and you're ready to take that next step, but you

431
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Speaker 1: don't quite think you want to put a ring on it.

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Speaker 1: You maybe move in together, and that's when the girl

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Speaker 1: knows what's coming next. Right, you're gonna get the proposal

434
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Speaker 1: and daxit and you're waiting for the proposal. It hasn't happened,

435
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 1: and maybe Jerry is still reluctant. Hey, we're talking about

436
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Speaker 1: a guy with one playoff win. We're talking about a

437
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Speaker 1: guy who in the last four years, you remove his

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Speaker 1: rookie year six of the Proposal record, the Proposal six

439
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Speaker 1: and twenty against teams that ended up with a winning record,

440
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 1: like Dax had chances. He had chances two years ago.

441
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Speaker 1: Down the stretch, he couldn't beat the Eagles, couldn't do anything.

442
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Speaker 1: He was really poor. Twenty nineteen, Go back, go back

443
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Speaker 1: to the Ian Carson Wins won the game. Jason, the

444
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: dude shouldn't have been playing that that That was hurt.

445
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Speaker 1: But because he's the quarterback, he played so that final

446
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Speaker 1: game against the Eagles, he was hurt. Now, I'll go

447
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Speaker 1: back to this too. When I looked at the coaching

448
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Speaker 1: heard of Mica Karthon was terrible last year. Even without that,

449
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Speaker 1: he was a terrible coach. He was so bad that

450
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Speaker 1: it's buddy he hired. Mike Nolan got fired. I just

451
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Speaker 1: was unimpressed with what Mike Nolan was doing, and Jason

452
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Speaker 1: Garrett was unimpressed. This is a guy who had ten

453
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Speaker 1: years because Jerry Jones loved the guy. I didn't think

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett was a good coach. He was average at best.

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Speaker 1: He you know what, nobody even he had what one

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Speaker 1: interviews with the Charge with the Charge. So I'm saw

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, I don't think this guy got

458
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Speaker 1: good coaching. Okay, I do not. I think this guy

459
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Speaker 1: is is a player who improved. But I ain't none

460
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,959
Speaker 1: of these guys great coaches here, ain't none of them. Okay.

461
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Speaker 1: So when I look at Dak Prescott, I looked at him,

462
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Speaker 1: especially when you saw this team fall apart, how much

463
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Speaker 1: this guy was doing. And I go back to this Jason,

464
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Speaker 1: and I was here at Tony Romo. Okay, every bit

465
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Speaker 1: of Tony row and I like to him. But those

466
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Speaker 1: guys on the team never felt about Tony the way

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Speaker 1: they feel about Dak Prescott. You saw how when Nick

468
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Speaker 1: I when that when he got Carter off the field,

469
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Speaker 1: you had giants coming over there tapping this guy up.

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Speaker 1: People like Dad. There's no doubt he's so that. But

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Speaker 1: but the the thing we don't talk about enough with

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Speaker 1: the player is what else does the player bring? As

473
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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is leaving Philadelphia, what are you hearing this

474
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Speaker 1: guy didn't have great he didn't well know, he didn't

475
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Speaker 1: have great relationships in the locker room, that that was

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Speaker 1: an issue, that this guy was not coachable. You're not

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Speaker 1: hearing those things about Dak Prescott, the things you heard

478
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Speaker 1: about Jared Gaulf hey Man. We don't know how tough

479
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Speaker 1: this guy is. We don't know if you can you

480
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Speaker 1: know how greatly. Now, Look, that's just what you're hearing,

481
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Speaker 1: because you know, on the way out you hear a

482
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Speaker 1: lot of stuff. You've never heard these things about Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: M hm uh. You know knew he for some reason,

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Speaker 1: whether it's you know, you, James Slater. I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of people in Dallas love Dak, and it's almost

486
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Speaker 1: to the point that there I don't know if impartial

487
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Speaker 1: is the right word, but you never hear anybody pushing

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Speaker 1: back about the Cowboys opening the checkbook and making him

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Speaker 1: a thirty eight million dollar a year guy. And I

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Speaker 1: know you're gonna say that's what the market calls for,

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Speaker 1: But thirty eight million dollars for a guy was one

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Speaker 1: playoff win who's got pretty good stats, not elite stats.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would call Dak Prescott like a

494
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Speaker 1: top seven or eight quarterback in the league. Um, coming

495
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Speaker 1: off a major injury, new he no reluctance at all

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Speaker 1: to give him thirty eight mill. Jason, Here's what for

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Speaker 1: me I find very interesting. First Off, I'm not against me.

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Speaker 1: Get what you can used to pay, per hap. And

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Speaker 1: I told you before when when I lived in l

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Speaker 1: A and I drive through Beverly Hills, there was never

501
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Speaker 1: a sign that said, you know, liquidated sale right here

502
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Speaker 1: on the hold Beverly Hills. And what the cost was

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks a Beverly Hills. UM. I watched Jimmy Garoppolo set

504
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Speaker 1: the market for quarterbacks off seven football games. Seven football

505
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Speaker 1: games Patriots quarterbacks for some reason. Uh, Derek Carr set

506
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Speaker 1: the market at twenty five mill. Matthew Stafford, who hasn't

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Speaker 1: had the resume of success that DK Prescott had, kept

508
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Speaker 1: setting the market. So it's not about hey, are you

509
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Speaker 1: worth this? Ye worth that? I mean Kirk Cousins got

510
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Speaker 1: got paid before you want a playoff game. This is

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Speaker 1: what they do with quarterbacks. One of the bigger issues

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Speaker 1: for me, Jason, and it's not been Jerry as much

513
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Speaker 1: as it's been Stephen Jones, who runs these contracts negotiations.

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Speaker 1: Stephen has not been good in terms of getting these

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Speaker 1: deals done. He waited too late to pay Tank, and

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Speaker 1: by the time they wanted to pay Tank instead of

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Speaker 1: get him at sixteen, they had to pay him twenty.

518
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Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliot they set up there and caved on Ezekiel.

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Speaker 1: And I was there in Oxnard, the Prescott US where

520
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Speaker 1: he said, we're not setting the market on running backs.

521
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Speaker 1: What do you do? He set the market on the

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Speaker 1: running back he talked about with Lamari Cooper. Right, we're

523
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Speaker 1: not We're we're trying to get these guys all top

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Speaker 1: five deals. Well, Mary Cooper went to Washington. They let

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Speaker 1: him get free and they had to go give a

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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. They keep messing up these deals along

527
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Speaker 1: the way. Were you're saying, hey, where are you winning?

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Speaker 1: They're not winning on these deals. They're waiting too long

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Speaker 1: to pay some of the guys. And then some of

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Speaker 1: the guys that they have paid, like a Tyrol Crawford early.

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Speaker 1: They've missed on the Jayalen Smith contract. They look at now,

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Speaker 1: they said, and probably shouldn't have paid that. The Zeke

533
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Speaker 1: contract now looks bad in retrospect when you sitting here

534
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Speaker 1: and you look at it. Um So they had an issue,

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Speaker 1: a problem of paying these guys too late. But that's

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Speaker 1: where Steven Jones has been there and Steven Jones has

537
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Speaker 1: lost this negotiation. Jason, He's lost. And when you talk

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Speaker 1: in terms of so when you're talk in terms of

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Speaker 1: is he worth thirty eight million dollars? I just watched

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Speaker 1: j j Why get paid today by Arizona? No, wait,

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Speaker 1: hold on, hold on the details. We don't know if

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Speaker 1: it it's incentive based or what. Right, thirty one million

543
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: sounds crazy, but we don't know if it's really Yeah,

544
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna get sixteen million total and the rest is

545
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Speaker 1: based on incentives. You know, it could be one of

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Speaker 1: those deals. But still from the standpoint when this guy

547
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 1: left here, you're thinking he's probably not gonna get that.

548
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Speaker 1: And what I'm telling you is it only takes one

549
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: So when you say, Dad Prescott, thirty eight million, do so.

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Speaker 1: If this man gets to the market, somebody will pay

551
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: him forty million dollars. Last year I wat, I watched

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Speaker 1: Byron Jones last year become the highest paid quarter in football.

553
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Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins paid. This is a guy who does

554
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Speaker 1: not get picked. Okay, watch another player I watched from

555
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Speaker 1: the time he came into the league. Byron is a

556
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: good quarter e great but you know what, Miami paid

557
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: him a great good But this is what happens to

558
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Speaker 1: free agency. But this is what will happen in free agency.

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Speaker 1: So if that goes to the market, I'm here to

560
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: tell you right now, Okay, we'll bet your state, Manna,

561
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Speaker 1: if that goes to the market. He's getting a deal

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Speaker 1: for forty million. Okay, get him to the mark. We

563
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Speaker 1: are making that bet. We will make that bet a

564
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Speaker 1: state dinner at your wherever you want out here in

565
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Speaker 1: l A probably like you know, the restaurants open up.

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Speaker 1: But hold on, I gotta say the Byron Jones is

567
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: a great example. So why did they lose him? Because

568
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 1: they had to ratchet up for dak right, they had

569
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Speaker 1: to up to the franchise tag. Last year they lost

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Speaker 1: Byron Jones. They lost Robert Quinn and what was the result.

571
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Speaker 1: The defense was terrible? Now, how did they wait one

572
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: more thing on Byron Jones? Hold on, So Byron Jones

573
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: was able to get overpaid in Miami, y because they

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Speaker 1: have a rookie, a quarterback on a rookie deal and

575
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Speaker 1: and Ryan Fitzpatrick who's a fossil making what ten million dollars,

576
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Speaker 1: so you can overpay around your quarterback when he's on

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Speaker 1: the rookie deal. That's how I believe the Cowboys were

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00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: so successful in Dak's early career. They had a stacked

579
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Speaker 1: team everywhere. They win thirteen games because you're paying him

580
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: third round money or fourth round money, right, so you

581
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: have a great team. And now when you're not paying him,

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Speaker 1: you know, eight thousand dollars or whatever it was that

583
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: Dak was making, you've got to ratchet that up to

584
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: thirty million, and you gotta take that away from the

585
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: offensive line, the defensive line, the secondary. Can you can

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Speaker 1: you pay Dak thirty seven mill and build a Super

587
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: Bowl contender. When you pay this money, you're going to

588
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: have to lose players at a certain position. We saw

589
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: it with Kirk Cousins in Minnesota when they had to

590
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Speaker 1: go out and get rid of Stefon Digs and then

591
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: they were placed Jordan's playoffs. A year after being great,

592
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Speaker 1: get a second round of the playoffs, lose Digs and

593
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: they fall back. Well, you lose Digs. Things wasn't your

594
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: problem because Jefferson was a hell of a receiver. The

595
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: defense of but but but but that, But that's that's

596
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: the price you pay. But I'll go back to this

597
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: thing with Byron Jones. This comes back to Stephen Jones. Okay,

598
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,719
Speaker 1: they should have got a deal done with Byron two

599
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 1: years before. But the way they miscalculated and misplayed these deals,

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Speaker 1: you now had Byron Jones your corner up. You have

601
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Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, your wide receiver up. You had your quarterback

602
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott up. That's not the way you should be

603
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: planning and and and plotting the way you're gonna run

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00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: your football team. And I'll say this, here's another way

605
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: where the Cowboys messed up in terms of of drafting.

606
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: They drafted Cheero Woozier and Jordan Lewis in the second

607
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Speaker 1: and third rounds. That was when Drew Pearson went up

608
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: there in Philadelphia and he ragged, ragged the crowd up there.

609
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Speaker 1: Uh when he did that great draft up that well,

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Speaker 1: that was the player he took with Cheeto Whoosia. It

611
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: was almost a draft to replace kind of deal. Guess what,

612
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: Cheeto wasn't a good player. He wasn't a good player

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Speaker 1: at all. So not only are you now having Byron

614
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: Jones free, the guys you thought could replace him. You're

615
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: hoping one of the two could become a guy. They

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00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: didn't become the guy. And this is a miscalculation of

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Speaker 1: the organization. But if you could have, you could have

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00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: taken care of Byron two years ago before he started

619
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: making the Pro Bowl. But they didn't. So to put

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00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: it on Doc that the Cowboys is the organization didn't

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Speaker 1: do this properly. And even Tank take care of Tank.

622
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: Lawrence Um after he made his first Pro Bowl said

623
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Speaker 1: a tag tranchise hagging him, making him play and didn't

624
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: try to throw another one. They've miscalculated along the way.

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00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: When I tell you they've just not been able to

626
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Speaker 1: make deals. Go back to the Mark coopertive. You make

627
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: the trade for the player, Jason. You know, if you

628
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: trained for the player and you give up a number one,

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00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: you immediately give the guy a new deal. You trade

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00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: for me and you give him a deal. What did

631
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: they do in Arizona? Hey, here's the deal. How in

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00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: the world did the Cowboys not get a deal and

633
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: then think that they were gonna get low price? What

634
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: do they think it was gonna be a Walmart? Stick

635
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: around the Mark Cooper? The prices are folliable a roll back.

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Speaker 1: It's a miscalculation by them. Yeah, great point on a Woozier.

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Speaker 1: He was a disappointment last year. Now, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to defend the guy. You know him much better than

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Speaker 1: I do. But I do recall Digs being out for

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Speaker 1: a period of time. Digs a rookie quarterback who was

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Speaker 1: pretty good when he was in, but when he was out,

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Speaker 1: A Woozier was pressed to guard number one and he

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Speaker 1: got shredded. Pro Football Focus I see ranked him ninety

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Speaker 1: five of a hundred and twenty one corners that ain't

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Speaker 1: before he was bad. So he's just lost in the secondary,

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Speaker 1: the defensive light like, they just don't have a good

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Speaker 1: team right now. So New he let's Stephen Stephen Jones

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Speaker 1: has I would agree with you. He has been the

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Speaker 1: reason that they're in this salary cap situation with Dac

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Speaker 1: and Cooper and everybody. If you're advising Steven Jones right now, NEWI, man, shit,

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Speaker 1: I got myself in a pickle. How do I get

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Speaker 1: out of it? What do you advise? Having covered football

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Speaker 1: for a long time, do I pay the guy thirty

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Speaker 1: eight million a year because we go be able to

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Speaker 1: build around him? Is there a nuclear option where we

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Speaker 1: let that hit the market and see if someone else

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Speaker 1: does it and we're able to find a quarterback in

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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariotta or whatever, and we're able to find good

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Speaker 1: free agents. Like, what do you advise Dallas to do?

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Speaker 1: Right now? All right? Jerry Jones um On said, when

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Speaker 1: you find yourself in the hole, stop digging. So that's

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Speaker 1: what you tell Steven, Steven, stop digging, um Jerry. Jerry

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Speaker 1: is seventy eight years old. Jerry's an older guy, So

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Speaker 1: Jerry's not here to start over. Jerry's going to He's

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Speaker 1: going to pay back Prescott and he will go tell

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Speaker 1: Will McClay go finding some players. That's what's gonna happen here.

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Speaker 1: They're going to have to figure it out and then

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Speaker 1: they will hope, I should say hope. They know the

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Speaker 1: TV contracts are going up and exactly how much salary

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Speaker 1: cap aligns with these new TV contracts. That's what they're

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Speaker 1: gonna bet on. And that's also what Dax agents betting on. Hey,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get the forty million because the TV deals

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Speaker 1: are all going up and a quarterback making forty million

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Speaker 1: is not gonna be anything crazy, be just like it

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Speaker 1: was when guys are making third. So anyway, that's all

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Speaker 1: I got from a buddy. Okay, how about this one.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me just pitch this to you, scoff.

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Speaker 1: If you want laugh at me, call me a hater. Uh, Pete,

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Speaker 1: Carroll and Schneider call up and say listen, Uh, this

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Speaker 1: situation with Russ is untenable. Our offensive lineman don't want

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Speaker 1: to play for him. Blah blah blah. We gotta move him.

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Speaker 1: We'll give you Russ, you give us three first round picks,

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Speaker 1: and Ezekiel Elliott will call it a deal. Now, wait

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Speaker 1: before you laugh, I just want to rattle off the

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Speaker 1: last three first round picks of the Cowboys Seedee Lamb, Layton,

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Speaker 1: Vander Esh and Taco Charlton. Okay, so that's three number

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Speaker 1: ones that Zeke what top five overall? And I know

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Speaker 1: Zeke any five year old running back whatever blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: NEWI is there a case to be made that first

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Speaker 1: round picks, unless they're top five are kind of overrated.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I could go down the list of Carolina

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Speaker 1: Panthers who are offering to back up the bring stroke

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Speaker 1: for Watson. Um I had Daniel Jeremiah on my podcast.

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Speaker 1: He said, Jason, look at the last four first round

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Speaker 1: picks of the Raiders. You give them up in a

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Speaker 1: heartbeat for just Shaun Watson. I don't you talk about

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Speaker 1: getting Russell Wilson in here and unloading three first future

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Speaker 1: first Russ cheaper than Dak and Pete Carroll's affinity for

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Speaker 1: running backs and running the football and three yards of

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Speaker 1: the cloud or dust taking the ball out of his

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Speaker 1: quarterback hands. Maybe you sell them on it is there

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Speaker 1: any hope of multiple first for us? And you let

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Speaker 1: Dak at the market and say, Denver, if you want

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Speaker 1: to pay Dak thirty eight million dollars, go right ahead. No,

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Speaker 1: not gonna happen. And let me just go into your

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Speaker 1: whole thing about this. You're trying to move Ezekiel Alley, God,

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Speaker 1: do you understand? Do you understand that if you move

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Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott the amount of money the Dallas is gonna

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Speaker 1: have to take in terms of a cap hit, I

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Speaker 1: mean to have you have a dead cap the dead

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Speaker 1: cap hit for Ezekiel Elliot this year it's twenty and

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Speaker 1: a half million bucks. They're not doing that, Okay, there

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Speaker 1: people are here trying to run off Tyrand Smith and

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Speaker 1: his cap hit is eight. They're not doing it, okay,

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Speaker 1: so so they're not counter quick, counter real quick. The

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Speaker 1: Rams are paying Girly and Golf I believe thirty million

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Speaker 1: and dead cat money not to play for them next year,

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Speaker 1: and they're one of the suspected the Super Bowl. I know,

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm just I'm just pointing out like it

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Speaker 1: can be done right and it's and it's all about

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Speaker 1: how do you want to get it done? And that's

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Speaker 1: not how they do things. It's just not how they

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Speaker 1: do it. Okay, all right, Nui scrugs, NBC Dallas fort Worth.

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Speaker 1: He's great. He pushes back against me. And listen when

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Speaker 1: they signed Dak you do a victory lap. I'll have

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Speaker 1: you on the show. I love your stuff. Do we

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Speaker 1: keep up the good work man, I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 1: that at steak maybe yeah yeah, Alrightnui scrugs. Just want

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Speaker 1: to steak dinner off. You have a good one, buddy.

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Speaker 1: What bye,