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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Welcome to an episode of Legally Brunette. I

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Speaker 1: will be your host today, Emily Simpson with my my sidekick, Shane.

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Speaker 2: Shane, I'm the main kick.

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Speaker 1: You're the main kick. You are the main kick. Today

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Speaker 1: we are going to talk about There is a new

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Speaker 1: documentary I believe it's on Paramount Plus if you've had

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to watch it. It is called A Handsome Devil,

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Speaker 1: Charming Killer. It is the story of Wade Wilson. I

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Speaker 1: will tell you I didn't know anything about this case.

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Speaker 1: I only was familiar with seeing images of him. That's it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know. I only knew what he looked like.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know, I knew nothing. I didn't know any

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Speaker 1: facts of the case. I didn't know anything about it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know a thing for killers.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have a thing for Wade Wilson.

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Speaker 1: A lot of women do, so we'll get into that.

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Speaker 1: But so let's go into this. I actually, once I

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Speaker 1: started watching it, I was like, I mean, it's it's

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Speaker 1: an interesting case. So Wade Stephen Wilson is a Florida resident,

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Speaker 1: and he drew national attention after being linked to two

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Speaker 1: killings that occurred on the same day in October of

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Often referred to in the media as the

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Speaker 1: Deadpool Killer because he shares a name with a fictional character.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Did you know that that Wade

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Speaker 1: Wilson was the dead was the name of the Deadpool Guy.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: Wilson was convicted in the deaths of Christine Melton, who

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Speaker 1: was thirty five, and Diane Ruiz, who was forty three.

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Speaker 1: The two cases unfolded in rapid succession and deeply unsettled

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Speaker 1: the Fort Myers community, later becoming the focus of widespread

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Speaker 1: international coverage, which is Florida.

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Speaker 2: Oh Florida, Yeah, Florida, Ohio.

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Speaker 1: It's always Florida or Ohio. Investigators say Wilson first killed Melton,

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Speaker 1: then later that same day he killed Ruiz. During questioning

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Speaker 1: and court proceedings, Wilson reportedly alarming statements about the killings.

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Speaker 1: Then in June of twenty twenty four, a jury in

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Speaker 1: Lee County gave him an official sentence. On January twentieth,

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Speaker 1: so this was recently, Paramount Plus released a documentary examining

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Speaker 1: his background and crimes, titled Handsome Devil, Charming Killer. All Right,

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Speaker 1: Let's Go a little bit into who is Wade Wilson.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting sometimes to me how when we do podcasts

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Speaker 1: and we do episodes, sometimes they tie into each other

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Speaker 1: and it wasn't even intentional. And we talked about this

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Speaker 1: was a couple episodes ago. If you guys haven't listened

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Speaker 1: to it, it's the Parkland shooting and we had a

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Speaker 1: judge Liz On.

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Speaker 2: It was the judge presiding over the Parkland shooting.

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Speaker 1: Case, right, and it was very interesting. If you haven't

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Speaker 1: had the opportunity to listen to that episode, it's really

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Speaker 1: interesting to listen to a judge who presided over a

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Speaker 2: A death penalty case.

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Speaker 1: It was a death penalty case. I believe fifteen people

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Speaker 1: perished during that I mean, it was tragic and horrible

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Speaker 1: viewpoint is very very interesting. But because of the Parkland case,

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Speaker 1: Florida changed the death penalty law because of that case.

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Speaker 2: What was it before you had to.

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Speaker 1: Have unanimous jurors agreed agree on the sentencing being death right.

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Speaker 1: And then when the Parkland case, when it came to sentencing,

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Speaker 1: the death penalty, and the Florida residence or community was outraged.

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Speaker 1: So we'll get more into that because that leads into

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Speaker 1: Wade Wilson and his sentencing. So Wade was born in

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Speaker 1: Florida in nineteen ninety four to teenage parents ages fourteen

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Wade.

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Speaker 1: Was adopted soon after birth by Cindy and Steve Wilson

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Speaker 1: of Cape Coral. According to news Press, so far it's.

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Speaker 3: Like started off bad scenario, right, yeah, parents.

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Speaker 2: Well and also parents, no, you're right?

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Speaker 2: And then did you say adopted?

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Speaker 3: So now opportunity right comes in to save him from

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Speaker 3: They go through all those hoops and hurdles to get

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Speaker 1: Reports indicate he experienced behavioral challenges early in life, including

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Speaker 1: adoptive mother talks about how his behavior really changed after

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Speaker 1: I think from her viewpoint, or from what she says,

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Speaker 1: And then once he found out that he was adopted something.

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Speaker 3: I wonder what the story is with how they told

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what they That's when they say the story.

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Speaker 1: That's when they say the behavior you'r the drugs, the alcohol,

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Speaker 3: Suspended processing and he probably well obviously he wasn't processing,

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Speaker 1: Well, I would say the first thing that goes through

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Speaker 3: It's weird because I've thought about that too, and I

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Speaker 3: But what comes to mind is it's abandonment. But then

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Speaker 2: And then maybe that part's kind of forgotten.

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Speaker 1: Well I don't know if if if they told him

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Speaker 3: Ag See, Axel Rose learned his stepfather wasn't his biological

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Speaker 3: and started gums roses and wrote Welcome.

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Speaker 2: To the Jungle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying this guy went killed two people.

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Speaker 1: You're saying that there's anger and abandon but you need

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Speaker 1: It's okay to have the anger, but go out into

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Speaker 2: With it, right, right, Like write a rock album.

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Speaker 1: Right. I love that Shane is the all knowing of

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Speaker 2: I find him to be a character you do.

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Speaker 1: Following his arrest for the murders, were about to discuss

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Speaker 1: Wilson's adoptive parents submitted a letter to the court that

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Speaker 1: was read aloud during a sentencing. In the letter, they

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Speaker 1: reflected on his early years, writing quote, Wade was a

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Speaker 1: Wade began to slip away from us, becoming withdrawn, erratic,

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Speaker 1: So on October sixth of twenty nineteen, this is the

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Speaker 1: in the early morning hours. He was with Christine Melton

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Speaker 2: And they had no prior interactions.

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Speaker 1: No, they didn't know each other. She meets this guy,

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Speaker 2: What was the matter of murder?

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Speaker 1: He strangled her? So after they go back to Christine

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Speaker 1: Then he calls so then he's hiding, right because he's

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Speaker 2: Something might also be hard to accept. Your kid calls

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Speaker 3: Because if he probably called and was breaking down and

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Speaker 2: Good for him.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm guessing the second murder, they might have

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Speaker 2: They find a lady who's been run over.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I think and I think he.

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Speaker 4: Was just ym ragging about what Yeah, and then you're right,

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Speaker 1: During police interviews, Wade also made disturbing remarks, including saying

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Speaker 1: proud of it. He asked for a burger and fries,

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Speaker 2: I'm a simple man.

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Speaker 1: I'm a simple man. I just just give me some

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Speaker 2: Well, it's Florida's out.

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Speaker 1: There's no there's no in and out in Florida.

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Speaker 3: Huh No, Oh, only in California, Oregon, I think Washington,

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Speaker 1: Shane is just full full of facts today. He knows

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Speaker 1: Axel Rose Snyder.

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Speaker 2: She's the owner of in and Out. What's her name,

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Speaker 2: Lindsay Snyder.

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Speaker 1: Lindsay Snyder. I think Shane goes in and out so

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Speaker 4: She's a billion she's not our fourth marriage, no, thank you,

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Speaker 4: she's not your tie. She has a billionaire's a billionaire?

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Speaker 1: A billionaire? Yeah, you asked me if Wade is good looking.

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Speaker 1: Accounta right, that would be perfect for you.

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Speaker 3: I need you to make a billion dollars, yes, and

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Speaker 1: During his police interviews, not only did he admit to

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Speaker 3: So this is this is a person that will repeat

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Speaker 1: So during the pre trial and legal proceedings. This is

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Speaker 1: Okay, So then we can safely say Wade Wilson was

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Speaker 3: It sounds silly because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: So in twenty nineteen to twenty twenty three. This is

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Speaker 1: He was formally charged with two counts of first degree murder.

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Speaker 1: Defense attorneys raised issues involving mental health and substance abuse,

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Speaker 3: Let me guess he was adopted adopted great until he

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: They also claimed that he had some type of brain

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Speaker 3: That because his parents, again similar to the last cor sation,

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Speaker 1: I think the mitigating factors aren't because they're they're not.

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Speaker 3: They're saying, yeah, but that doesn't make sense, Like this

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Speaker 2: People every day. Yeah, Yeah, that's why I don't get

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Speaker 1: You're saying, just like what the Parkland.

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Speaker 3: Is he strangled someone? Like, what's it matter? What the

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Speaker 1: You're saying, you don't ever think that there's any type

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Speaker 1: It does not matter to you whether it's because they

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Speaker 2: Not so much.

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Speaker 3: Not for purpose, No, for sympathy, sure, but not for

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Speaker 1: No, we're talking about that. We're talking about the death penalty.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about his defense put on evidence of mitigating

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Speaker 1: He already they already know he did the crimes. They're

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Speaker 3: They're trying to They don't see it as No, I

439
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,360
Speaker 3: don't see that. I see him as he went out

440
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 3: and he wanted to kill two people. He bragged about it,

441
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 3: and he said he'd do it again.

442
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: Here's the other interesting thing with Wade Wilson. He was a.

443
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 2: While he was on trial.

444
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 1: He was a phenomenon in the media as far as

445
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 1: social media. He had a ton of women that were

446
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: obsessed with him and they called them, I think the

447
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: prosecution named them Wade's wives. And they show in this documentary.

448
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: It's so interesting because they play so many tapes, recordings,

449
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: jailhouse recordings of him talking to so many different women,

450
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: tons of different women. And these women are sending him money,

451
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: They're sending him suits, they're sending he wants like a

452
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: Gucci suit to wear to court, he wants alligator shoes

453
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: to wear to were and these women are just they're

454
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: all making it happen. And then they're all showing up

455
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: to court every day to watch him. You can see

456
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: them all sitting sitting on the benches while he's at trial,

457
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: you know, just in love with him and enrolled.

458
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 3: Is he gonna be on the what was it love

459
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 3: and lock Up or whatever? What was that called that

460
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 3: we still watch? I love that, Well, there was life after.

461
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: Lock Up and then there's love after lock.

462
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 2: Up, right or something. I don't know.

463
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 1: That's some good reality TV. I don't watch Housewives. I

464
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 1: don't even watch Orange County. I don't even I don't

465
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 1: watch it at all, and but I will watch Love

466
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: after lock Up. Talk about good reality TV where there.

467
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 3: Was like love while locked up or something something where

468
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 3: they were they were in jail, dating or whatever you

469
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 3: want to and then courting, and then there was then

470
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 3: it was such a phenomenon because of people like us.

471
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 2: Then they did the like life after lock.

472
00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 3: Now he's he or she is released from prison and

473
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 3: they're with their happily ever after love mate. Yeah, and

474
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 3: then we watched the disastrous relationships.

475
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: Remember I'll never I'll never forget. There's one episode. I

476
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: mean I've seen many many episodes, but there's one episode

477
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: where a guy got out of prison and the girlfriend

478
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: picked him up and then they literally had like a

479
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 1: camera crew, you know, following them, and.

480
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 2: They stopped on the side of the road. It had

481
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: sex on the way home in the bushes.

482
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: Can you imagine the camera crew, They're just like, what

483
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: we're pulling over, we're in the woods. Told him to

484
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, but that one I was like, this

485
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: is just insanity. This is good reality TV. So anyway, well, yeah.

486
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 2: He was smart by getting it before they broke.

487
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: Up, getting what they never last. Wilson notoriously gained a

488
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: huge following, primarily of women that found him attractive and

489
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: voiced their unwavering support of him. You know what's so funny.

490
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: They also show in this documentary all these women online,

491
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: you know, making tiktoks about him and making content about

492
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: him and posting and writing comments about him. And it

493
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: just made me realize that people don't care about facts.

494
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: They don't care about facts, they don't care about what

495
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: really happened. So many of these women are like, bring

496
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: him home, he's innocent. The man admits to what he

497
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: did in court. You could watch it on court TV.

498
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: There's graphic details of how he killed these two women.

499
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: Diane Ruiz's son, who is fourteen, gets on the stand

500
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 1: and talks about how he wanted to commit suicide. His

501
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: mother never came home again himself. Yes, that's what I'm saying.

502
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: They play I mean, they play recordings of his dear right.

503
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: People don't look at that something. It was like when

504
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 3: Michael Jackson had trials. Everyone was outside the courthouse and

505
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 3: they were dressed up like Michael Jackson. They were playing

506
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 3: his music. That was their evidence. It was like, he's

507
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 3: the king of pop, right, how could he have done this?

508
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: Right?

509
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 2: Clearly he's innocent.

510
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: So this is these women are just like, he's innocent.

511
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 2: Bring him home. They don't care that whether he is

512
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: or not.

513
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: Well, I think some. I think some don't care because

514
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 1: there were actual recordings of women saying, I don't care

515
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: what he did.

516
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 4: He's just so good looking. I don't care what he did.

517
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 4: I don't care that he empty out the trash fast

518
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 4: enough before you get mad at me. These women are

519
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 4: willing to overlook murder charges.

520
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 2: Yes, well, those.

521
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: Are different type of women. So Wilson received nearly four

522
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: thousand messages in prison, many from misguided women who have

523
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: sent him X rated photos. According to public records, authorities

524
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: had to reject one hundred and sixty three inappropriate photos.

525
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: These fans were sending him money for his prison canteen and.

526
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 2: Donating someone has that job photos for him.

527
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: They probably had to have one person and that was

528
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 1: like this. Their full time job is just looking at

529
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: his interactions with other women. So I don't know, I mean,

530
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: what's funny though, is. He'll talk to one and he

531
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: calls her, baby, I love you, can't wait to get out.

532
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna get married. Then he talks. He talks to

533
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: the next one. He's like, I love you. We're gonna

534
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: get married, you know.

535
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't worry about that death penalty. Then

536
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: don't believe everything you see.

537
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,719
Speaker 1: Right, these fans were sending him money for his prison

538
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 1: canteen and donating thousands to a GoFundMe that raised over

539
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: seventy thousand dollars with one woman donating twenty four thousand

540
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: dollars alone.

541
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 3: So she did which you know, was like her entire

542
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: bank account, which is why it was such an odd number.

543
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: Watch woman is looking at this man and donates twenty

544
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 1: four thousand to First of all, can you get a

545
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: GoFundMe if you're in prison or does that go to

546
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: his Sure? Well, he doesn't have attorney fees because he

547
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: has a public defender, and I think he went through

548
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: seven public defenders before he finally have.

549
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 2: Those go fund me accounts.

550
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 3: But I know that they do have boards that overlook

551
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 3: things and they kind of find some ethical issues in

552
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 3: the way.

553
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: So you're telling me this man has seventy thousand dollars

554
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: in his canteen. In prison, he can buy seventy thousand.

555
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: Dollars worth of candy. I don't know.

556
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: These women and other supporters also flooded the chambers of

557
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: Lee County Circuit Judge Nicholas R. Thompson's begging him to

558
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 1: spare Wilson's life. One woman even pledged her undying devotion

559
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: to the sociopathic killer as someone who cares unconditionally for weight.

560
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: I have deeply reflected on the gravity of this situation

561
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: and impact of your decision, the woman from Visalia, California,

562
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: wrote to the judge. Another woman, a mother of two,

563
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: claim that Wade is a different person when he's on medication.

564
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,239
Speaker 1: That's how they look back.

565
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: Everyone's a different person when you're on medication.

566
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: Oh, he's just you know, he's on medication. He's this

567
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: on drugs.

568
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 2: It's not a a million bucks.

569
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 3: If I went up one, he's the one to try

570
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: to hit on them, and they'd be like, oh, get

571
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 3: out of here.

572
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: Creep, Like you're willing to date a murder and you

573
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: send him twenty four.

574
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 4: Grand, Yes he's And then I wanted to go on

575
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 4: a day with you and you call me creep.

576
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's tall. He's tall and good looking. It

577
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: always wins if you look past his tattoos to his

578
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: face structure. Since being in prison and medicated, he is healthier.

579
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: His face is fuller compared to his booking picture where

580
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: his face is gaunt, pale, and he looks unhealthy. This

581
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: is what someone wrote to the judge. So all these

582
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: women are writing to the judge, like telling him all

583
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: these things that he needs to notice about Wade. You know,

584
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: like he's when he's on drugs, it's no big deal.

585
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: It says, he's just a different person when he's on drugs.

586
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: If you look at his face, you know.

587
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: I can fix them. Send them to me right one.

588
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: They interview one woman that claims to be that claimed

589
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: to be his fiance, and she talks about how she

590
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: went to court every single day and she believed him.

591
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: She believed that he was innocent, she believed that he

592
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: didn't have anything to do with it, and then she

593
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: went to court day after day, and then by the

594
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: end she hated him and realized that, you know, she

595
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: was duped and that he was never leaving prison. And

596
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: they also what they did this was interesting. The prosecutor

597
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: talked about how they were just so sick of these

598
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: women backing him up that they wanted to find a

599
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: way to get into court, into trial, all the different

600
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: recordings of him talking to all these different women. So

601
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: they got it in because they wanted because all these

602
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: women are showing up at court every day and they

603
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: all think, you know, they're like the one. They think

604
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: they're the one, right, So they wanted they wanted these

605
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: women to see like not I mean, the murderer, but

606
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: they they wanted it right and show's relationships and talking

607
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: to these women. I mean, he charms them all individually,

608
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: so they all think they're special when they're sitting there.

609
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: But they wanted to expose him. So I believe they

610
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: had a psychologist on the stand and they played a

611
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: lot of his his conversations. You could see the women

612
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: in the stands like, yeah, exactly, exactly. So in June

613
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four, a Lee County jury found Wilson

614
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: guilty of two counts of first degree murder. The verdict

615
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: followed weeks of testimony from law enforcement, forensic experts, and witnesses.

616
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: In August of twenty twenty four, this is the sentencing.

617
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: A judge sentenced Wilson to two death sentences, one for

618
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: each murder. Now, it's interesting what the jury voted. So

619
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: the jury voted nine to three to recommend death for

620
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: the murder of Christine Melton and ten to two for

621
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: the murder of Ruiz. And if you remember, it's Lord's

622
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: Law only requires an eight to four vote. That was

623
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: changed after the Parkland shooting because it was previously unanimous,

624
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: and then when now eight, So it was nine to

625
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: three and ten to two. But my question is who

626
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: are the three people and who are the two and

627
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: the three on the jury that did not vote, and

628
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: are they.

629
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: The same people? Are those two people the same people

630
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: that are in the three?

631
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, because I don't know if he had

632
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: two different juries or if he had one jury that

633
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: just had just made two different I believe it's just

634
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: one jury. And then they each made a decision as

635
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: far as they were.

636
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: Probably following the law and so much that they felt, well, okay,

637
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 3: But in this murder he didn't meet all the elements

638
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: for death, but on this one he did, so it

639
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: might have been not an emotional thing, but more of it.

640
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: No, I'm just going to guess it was women that

641
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: voted against the death penalty.

642
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was talking about that one swing vote.

643
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: No, I'm just talking about who are the people that

644
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: aren't voting for him for death? That's all.

645
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: It was a jury of nine men, three women.

646
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: Exactly, That's what I would say it was. But again,

647
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: we talked about this with the death penalty. We talked

648
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: about this with Brian Coberger and when he took the

649
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: plea deal and why the prosecution allowed him to have

650
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: a plea deal because Idaho has the death penalty, and

651
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: if someone who deserves the death penalty more than someone

652
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: like Brian Coburger, so in this case, Wade Wilson. So

653
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying, in this case, the people that are voting

654
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: know for him to get the death penalty, Like in

655
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 1: what right?

656
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know. Yeah, but my.

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Speaker 1: Question is, in what circumstance would you say that someone

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Speaker 1: deserved the death penalty?

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Speaker 2: I mean, how he is big on the death penalty.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they're not big on it.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is Florida. I'm back to Florida. We went

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Speaker 1: to Idaho for Brian Coberger. Now I'm back in Florida.

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Speaker 2: Talking about Florida Florida gave him the death.

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Speaker 1: Helt Yeah, that's why I'm saying. I mean it was close.

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Speaker 1: It was nine to three. I mean, I can't in

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Speaker 1: what circumstances should this guy not get the death?

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe people death penalty, that's true.

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Speaker 1: It could be a religious thing, and I understand that.

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Speaker 3: Douse be like, I just don't think that's a good idea.

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Speaker 1: Well, in a lot of circumstances.

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Speaker 3: Eye for an eye, maybe you're just killing, you know,

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Speaker 3: now you're killing like they were killing. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: there's lots of reasons to disagree with it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just don't see how you sit

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Speaker 1: through all that testimony and listen to this guy show

676
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: no remorse.

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Speaker 2: He shows no I agree.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's so he's so cocky in court. Did

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Speaker 1: you watch any of his trial at all? He's just cocky.

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00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: He has no remorse, he doesn't care. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: like I said, his defense team, they they sit far

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Speaker 1: away from him. There's like him, and then there's a space,

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Speaker 1: and then his defense attorneys are over here. And anytime

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Speaker 1: he like, you know, he gives them a paper, he

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Speaker 1: just like throws it down in front of him. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's no camaraderie there at all, all right. Paramount Plus

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Speaker 1: released the documentary titled Handsome Devil, Charming Killer. This was

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Speaker 1: on January twentieth, So if you guys haven't watched it yet,

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Speaker 1: I would say it's worth watching.

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Speaker 2: I found it.

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Speaker 1: It's three parts. There's witness statements, bodycam footage from the

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Speaker 1: day of the murders, footage from inside the prison, and

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Speaker 1: footage of the trial. The footage from inside the prison

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Speaker 1: is so interesting to me because it just shows him

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Speaker 1: constantly on the phone with all these different women all

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Speaker 1: day long.

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Speaker 2: Well, what else is he gonna do?

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Speaker 1: I know, but I don't. I didn't know you could

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00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: talk on the phone that long when you're on death row.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how it works.

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Speaker 1: I mean, are you allowed just unlimited phone privileges? Like

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Speaker 1: can you?

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Speaker 3: He just well, what if you get fifteen minutes a

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Speaker 3: day and he's just using those fifteen minutes for these

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Speaker 3: women And then now you see a compilation of.

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Speaker 1: And it just looks like it's just all yeah.

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00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: Hours and hours.

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Speaker 1: There's recorded phone calls between Wade and his father, Wade

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Speaker 1: and his girlfriend girlfriends, and quotes because there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of girlfriends and his calls with many of his fans,

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00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: and he always releases recordings, and I don't understand where

712
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: these recordings go. This is at the end of the documentary.

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00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 1: He releases these recordings where he thanks all of his fans.

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00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: He probably has a video call.

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00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: And thanks everyone for their like undying support, and like,

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00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm like, I'm thinking, does he have

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00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: an Instagram account or something? But he has a.

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00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: Video call with one of his girlfriends and then she

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00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:29,959
Speaker 2: records it and then.

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Speaker 1: He just disseminates it somehow. Let's talk about Wade Wilson now.

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Speaker 1: So Wilson is being held at the Union Correctional Institution

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Speaker 1: in Rayford, Florida, the facility designated for the state's male

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Speaker 1: death row population. You know what I was thinking, If

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Speaker 1: you have everyone on death row all in the same place,

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Speaker 1: what like what type of people work there? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I would be scared to have to work somewhere where

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Speaker 1: everyone's on death row.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean? It's a correctional facility of correctional officers, I.

729
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: Know, but it's specifically for death row. So to me,

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00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: that's like the scariest people on the face of the

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Speaker 1: planet are all in there.

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Speaker 3: It's more security. I don't know, it just seems well,

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Speaker 3: don't worry, not playing for any job anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: Like other inmate sentence to capital punishment, he has kept

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Speaker 1: under highly restrictive conditions, spending most of his time isolated

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Speaker 1: in a cell with limited freedom of movement and minimal

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00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: outside interaction. He did have. This was another thing that

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00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: was in the documentary. He had some fans in prison.

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Speaker 1: There was another young yeah, another young prisoner who looked

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00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: up to him and then got the same, like the

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Speaker 1: tasks on the size.

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00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: He wanted some girls too. He's like, how do I

743
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: do it?

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00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: So he tatted his face up to match like what

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00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: Wade Wilson had done to his face, which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why he tatted his face in prison,

747
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: because that was that was after he was arrested that

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00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: he started getting the facial tattoos. I mean, he found

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00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: himself so good looking and so charming. I don't know

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00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: why he was messing with his face. But anyway, so

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00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: Wade had some fans in prison that were emulating him

752
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: and getting like the same facial tattoos. So while Wilson

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00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: has received a death sentence, there is no immediate execution date. Obviously,

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00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: he has to go through all the appeals process. You

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00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: can't execute someone before all their appeals are you can't appeal, well,

756
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: if they choose, not if they wave their right to appeal.

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00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: But his attorneys submitted multiple appeals to the Florida Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: This is in August of twenty twenty four, and at

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00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: least one of those legal challenges entered active proceedings in

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00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: early January of twenty twenty six. That was the recent

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Speaker 1: The most recent thing I read on him is that

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00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: he does have an appeal that has gone through. His

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00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: fan base has since dwindled. New pictures though. This was

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00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: my this is my favorite thing about this whole documentary though,

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00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: So his fan base is starting to dwindle because I

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00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: believe these well, first of all, these women, I mean

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00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: that were delusional. I thought they were going to marry him.

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00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: Now know that he's sentenced to death. So they've dwindled, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean his funeral, the woman that gave him twenty

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00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: four thousand dollars, she must feel really stupid. But I don't,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know.

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00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: Maybe she's excited still, maybe she moved on to x No.

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00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: But I'm going to tell you my favorite thing about

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00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: this entire documentary is that he had so much money

775
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: in his canteen from all these fans that he was

776
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: just eating candy all day. And they showed recent photos

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00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 1: of what he looks like currently. His teeth are rotted,

778
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: and he's overweight, and I mean overweight, like bloated overweight,

779
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 1: and he's unrecognizable. He does not look really, he doesn't

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00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: look anything.

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Speaker 4: Like what he used to save it for the tattoos.

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00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 4: You wouldn't recognize him, No, not.

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00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 1: At all, like the teeth and the face, and he's

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00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: bloated and it does not look like the same person

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00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: at all.

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Speaker 3: All those women need to start sending him a JLP one.

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00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, he needs he needs some mozempic. So the new

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00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: pictures have surface of him and it appears as though

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00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: his teeth are falling out and he's gained a significant

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00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: amount of Honestly, for a man like that, with that

791
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: type of ego, that's probably the worst punishment for him

792
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: is that he's not attractive. You think, so, I don't know.

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00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: I don't know he does murder is wrong?

794
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm well, so you're just saying he's so

795
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: Maybe he just thinks he's still attractive.

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00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: I hope he's disappointed in himself. Well, I just know.

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00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm thinking this man is so he he's such a

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00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: psychopath and he's such an egotistical monster that the fact

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Speaker 1: that he's on death row doesn't bother him.

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Speaker 3: He has no roounds bother him.

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00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: That would.

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00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying he's would bother you.

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00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 2: Bother him, it would bother him.

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00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying, this man has lived his life being like,

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00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: I'm so handsome, I'm so charming, i can get women

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00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: to do anything. And now his teeth rotted and he's

807
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: severely overweight, and he's bloated, and he doesn't look like

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00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: his former self. I'm saying that's probably the worst punishment

809
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: to him than death row, is that he's now ugly

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00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: and fans of all dwindled and Wade's wives are no longer.

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Speaker 1: I'll always have some crazy woman that wants to marry him. Yeah, yeah,

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00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: that is true. All right, Thanks guys for listening to

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