1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. 2 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: Hey there, welcome back to the Deal. 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 3: I'm your host Jason Kelly, flying solo again this week 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 3: to share a special interview with Formula one driver Pierre Ghastly. 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 3: I got to sit down with Pierre in Paris over 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 3: the summer for a DOCU series I hosted through Bloomberg 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 3: Originals called Power Players. This season, we dove into the 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 3: business of F one and motorsport racing overall, and I 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 3: was excited to speak with the driver who has really 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 3: made a name for himself both on and off the track. 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 3: Pierre has been competing as lead driver for the Alpine 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 3: F one team since twenty twenty three, but he made 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 3: his debut on the grid back in twenty seventeen. As 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 3: we talked about in the very first episode of my 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 3: Power Players docuseriies in today's Formula one drivers aren't just racers. 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 3: They're global brand ambassadors, technical consultants, and brands unto themselves. 17 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 3: Pier encapsulates that through the deals he's been part of recently. 18 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: His contract with Alpine. 19 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: Anchor is a brand empire that spans luxury time pieces, 20 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: signature sunglasses, and corporate partnerships names like Reboch and Aix 21 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 3: investment group. His influence also extends into French football. He 22 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: has an ownership stake in FC Versailles and the week 23 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: I spoke with him, he was in Paris for a 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: Fragrance shoot for French fashion brand yvonn She. That's all 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: on top of the twenty four races he competes in 26 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 3: around the world every year and the countless hours he 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: spends at Alpine HQ working with the team to make their. 28 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: Race car as fast as possible. 29 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: Pierre Gastley certainly one to watch in the world of 30 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: athletes turn business people, so I hope you enjoy my 31 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: conversation with him. It's such interesting timing to think about 32 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: you as a business person, but also you within the 33 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 3: business of Formula one. 34 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: You hit it at this moment. 35 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: Where a sport that has been popular, certainly popular in 36 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: Europe and other parts of the world, really explodes globally. 37 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: What has that been like to you know, be a 38 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: part of that journey and also to sort of participate 39 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 3: in your own, you know, sort of journey of notoriety 40 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: and becoming probably more famous than you thought you would 41 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: ever be. 42 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: I think F one over the last couple of years 43 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: as at an incredible rite social media streaming platform, you 44 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: know Netflix, the SERI another F one movie is coming out. 45 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: It just shows how incredible the boom of F one 46 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: is going at the minutant. Some yeah, funny stories when 47 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: I started in Formula when I remember my first year 48 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: in Olstein, going out one night the restaurant and start 49 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: talking with someone and the guy comes and goes us, so, 50 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: what are you doing? And like, I am a driver, 51 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: And first reaction was, yeah, what type of driver? F 52 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: one driver? What is that like Nascar? And I remember 53 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: I felt so many times to explain in the past 54 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 1: what F one was, just like yeah, that work kind 55 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: of Nascar, like slightly different. And it just shows like 56 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: in a couple of years, because I mean that was 57 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: less than years in twenty seventeen, yeah, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, 58 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: and in the space of like six seven years, the 59 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: interest for Formula One, especially in the States, as multiplied 60 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: by I don't know, six seven eights, you know, like 61 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: the older Ostine Miami Vegas, everything sold out and the 62 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: interest of American people in the sport is just huge now. 63 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: So I think because fast forward started to interrupt you. 64 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: But fast forward from not being recognized, not even not 65 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: even understand what you do in a bar in Austin, 66 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: the restaurant in Austin, to then this year twenty twenty 67 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 3: five big in Times Square, yeah, celebrated you know as 68 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: sort of one of the biggest cultural moments probably in 69 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: all of sport and culture. 70 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the biggest evolution in a 71 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: sport we've seen, like especially in the in the last decade, 72 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: you know, for F one, just to show obviously it 73 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: came with some you know, having definitely a different pathway 74 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: and access to our sport, we had to open a 75 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: lot our doors and show a lot more from what 76 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: we do within our F one circle, but also personally 77 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: us as drivers kind of open the doors on who 78 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: we are because we get recognized with our elemets on 79 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: her head because people see a driver, Okay, that guy 80 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: is a yellow element, that guy's blue element and oh yeah, 81 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: I know this Charles Leclaar guy come from Monaco. But 82 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: you know, in the past they recognize us with the 83 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: color of our shutoilement to our race number. But people 84 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: don't really see who we are as individuals and we 85 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: all humans, we all have different personalities, We have different 86 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: interests that we don't get to expose many times because 87 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, I finish a race an hour and a 88 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: half full of adrenaline. What do you think about the 89 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: last crash? You've just died like five minutes ago. You're 90 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: running high on emotions, high on adrenaline. What you display 91 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: of yourself is very different to the guy you are, 92 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: you know, on the normal middle of the week, as 93 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: human beings, normal feelings, and with the values that you own. 94 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: So I think the sport did very well and showing 95 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: that side of the drivers, race drivers and people actually 96 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: bought a lot more into it, into understanding the dynamics 97 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: of drivers, teams, team managers, the business being Formula one 98 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: and not only focusing on the track action. But yeah, 99 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: definitely the fan base has grown massively. 100 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so as someone who intimately understands the business, 101 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: you've been in it for a while, you clearly have 102 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: a business mind. What happens next for the business of 103 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 3: Formula One? What does it need to do to continue 104 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: this sort of momentum. 105 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: At the moment, I'm focusing on my race, right, There'll 106 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: be a time where I'm sure I'll have other interest 107 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: in the sport in a bigger picture. But I think 108 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: that's a good question. I mean, there there is a 109 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: lot to do, and we see F one as a 110 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: sport is doing a huge amount. You know, we just 111 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: increasing the number of races, the interest from the biggest 112 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: brands in the world, you know, collaborating with Formula one 113 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: as a sport, but collaborating with the teams, with the drivers. 114 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: The interest on a business wise, I think has massively 115 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: increased in terms of opportunities we get just at our 116 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: level in terms of drivers and you know, collaborations we 117 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: can do in terms of brands. So I think everyone 118 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: is doing very well. The value of the sport as 119 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: not going to give any numbers out because I'm not 120 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: too sure about them, but clearly is doing very very well. 121 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: And that thanks to you know, people watching, people supporting 122 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: people's interest in our sport. 123 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: Right adding another team obviously, you know, coming on the grid, 124 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 3: you know you mentioned something really important, which is, you know, 125 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: brands becoming more and more interested in aligning themselves with teams. 126 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: With the sport. Also, you know, with the drivers. 127 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: This week you're gonna you know, do a big project 128 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: with Jivanji. That's a huge deal for you. How did 129 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: those sorts of things come to you? And do you 130 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 3: feel like both the power of the sport and your 131 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: own brand are part of the attraction there. 132 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: I think being an athlete in twenty twenty five is 133 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: is a huge chance, even more than what it used 134 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,119 Speaker 1: to be. I think there is a real interest from 135 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: brands to use top athletes, not only in Formula one, 136 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: I think at all levels and all types of sports, 137 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: but to use these figures that people can relate to, 138 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: that people get inspired from. So I think the more 139 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: exposure we get as a support, obviously in Formula one, 140 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: the more interest these brands will want to collaborate with us. 141 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: And that's what we see. So obviously I don't deal 142 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: with that myself directly. I got a team around me, 143 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: which I had to to build over time, because that 144 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: didn't it's not from the first day I got to 145 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: f one that I had, you know, all these deals 146 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: coming straight away on the table, but you know, working 147 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: over the years and the interest growing for sure, now 148 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: you know I was went from a moment where I 149 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: was looking for deals and opportunities to a moment where 150 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: you've got to be selective in what you do. And 151 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: be careful in the way that you know, you use 152 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: your image and the brands that you work with. So 153 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: there's been a huge evolution and that's why everybody within 154 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: Formula one is benefiting from an orgainzation point of view, 155 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: from a team point of view, from a driver point 156 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: of view, and even from a Finn point of view, 157 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: because I think what's out there right as a sport 158 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: as a better quality and a better access and they 159 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: able to get more into the sport and into let's 160 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: say our life as an athlete than they were before. 161 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: And so what's the process that you went through to 162 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: build that team around you? Because you're a young guy, 163 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 3: I mean, you know you have a huge measure of 164 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 3: you know, financial success, but also notoriety and visibility. How 165 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 3: do you go about choosing the people that are going 166 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 3: to be around you? 167 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: I will say to start, I was one of the 168 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: few guys to get into Formula one without a management 169 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: company I think, which you know with insight was ad 170 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: is pros and cons as well in terms of how 171 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: is it made to get into the sport. But always 172 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: been someone that needs a huge amount of trust to 173 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: be able to work with people, especially when it comes 174 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: to my career, knowing all the sacrifices that went into it. 175 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: I never felt initially comfortable to, you know, give that 176 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: side of things, which is crucially important to someone I 177 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: not fully trust. So it took me some years, a 178 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: lot of meetings, met a lot of people within Formula one, 179 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: until you know, I found the right guy and my 180 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: manager at the moment we started after my first year 181 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: in Formula one, and that I've been working with ever since. 182 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: But it's over the years I had the chance to 183 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: have my family supporting me a lot, my four brothers, 184 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: older brothers, and a very good system that I could 185 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: rely on and that I could get advice from to 186 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: make sure that you know, I make the right decision. 187 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm ob basically someone very driven. I know what I want, 188 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: I know exactly where I go. But I think it's 189 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: very important to me also to have feedback in confirmation 190 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: from people I can trust that they feel the same 191 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: thing as I do, and that you know, my project 192 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: being a Formula one and willing to be a Formula 193 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: one world champion, that everything is aligning in the way 194 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: that it should. And I think I add the chance 195 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: to the family I have. I'm very lucky. Not everybody 196 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: gets that chance, and that's why I want to contribute, 197 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: you know, for young drivers, in bringing that sort of 198 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: support and environment and structure to advice in the best 199 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: way possible, because it's very easy to make, you know, 200 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: a wrong decision that could impact a carrier very negatively 201 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: and unfortunately have quite big consequences. So it's extremely important 202 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: to be surrounded by the right people. 203 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: It's interesting too to think about the roster of drivers 204 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 3: at any given time in Formula one, because people change teams. 205 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: You know, you've driven for several teams, there's always some 206 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 3: sort of movement. Are there people who've who are either 207 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 3: currently on the grid or you know, maybe previously who 208 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: you sort of model yourself after, especially when it comes 209 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: to not just as a driver, but it's. 210 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: Sort of a more holistic sort of business person. 211 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: I think it's funny you ask about Formula one just 212 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: to me. I always learn a lot from meeting people 213 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: in different environments, so successful people in their industries, whether 214 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: you're talking business industries, whether you're talking other sports football, NFL, NBA, 215 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: let's say it's still in the sport industry. But I 216 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: really love those conversations I have with them where we 217 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: can open up as athletes and understanding, well, we know 218 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: this is quite difficult to manage in a career, whether 219 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: it's exposure, whether it's fame, whether it's finance, whether it's management, 220 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: whether it's family. You know, just working your own setup 221 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: and you know, keeping everything as safe and control as possible. 222 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: So we talk a lot, and I learned so much 223 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: from this conversation. I love it because that's where I 224 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: really feel I'm getting a lot of useful insights I 225 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: can use in my career in my personal life. So 226 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: not necessarily in formula one to answer your question, we 227 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: obviously very close to chelse lea clerk for example. I 228 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: grew up with him, and we share so much that 229 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: is very useful for our career, or at least to 230 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: me for my career and personal life because we're living, 231 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: you know, the same type of life. But I love 232 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: to have these conversations with people away from the sport, 233 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: where I'll find them as constructive and as useful as 234 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: the one I have with the people within the sport. 235 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned football, and you know obviously you haven't 236 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 3: invested in American football yet, but you haven't in a 237 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: football club, right, here in France, in versa i FC 238 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 3: tell me how that deal came about and why it's 239 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 3: interesting to you, especially from an ownership perspective, because endorsing 240 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 3: is one thing, but owning is it is an entirely 241 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 3: other thing. 242 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a new project. I've been involved in the 243 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,359 Speaker 1: FCBL side for a year and now I think football 244 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: has always been you know, there is Formula one in 245 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: my life, my love for Formula one, but football is 246 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: right there, right and so it's been a huge passion 247 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: since I was a kid. I played football from the 248 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: age of six until eleven. I had to make a 249 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: choice and luckily I made the right choice back then 250 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: between cutting or football. But who knows football, I can't 251 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: guarantee you I made the right call. Yeah, but I've 252 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: always had the will of being involved in football in 253 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: a whale or another growing up. Even though I was 254 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: following that motorsport career path, was already thinking maybe after 255 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: my motor sport career, I can play football like in 256 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: a matirish level. And I've been a big fan following 257 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: a lot any football competition in France, European level, World Cup, 258 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: et cetera. Watch a lot of games and I've always 259 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: wanting to have a somehow I can input inside the 260 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: sport and all the time over the years again network 261 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: through Formula one. Feel very lucky being an e F 262 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: one driver because it opens so many doors. And you know, 263 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: the two other owners of FC vs I contacted me 264 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: a year and a half ago, knowing that I was big, 265 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: big fan of football and having a lot of interest 266 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: into the sport, and yeah, the first conversation started, and 267 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: becoming a potential owner and having my input as a 268 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: professional athletes from the experience of my career and what 269 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: it takes working in this type of environments, you know, 270 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: within a team of fifteen hundred people working in between 271 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: Enstone and friends in Formula one and trying to use 272 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: that experience at a more let's say third division level 273 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: football and our values matched straight away. The vision as well, 274 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: matched straight away. And I had a couple of opportunities 275 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: to get into football in the last three years, but 276 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: none of them really connected with me. Oh, I didn't 277 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: find myself in those projects, and that one became a 278 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: life a year ago, and it's amazing. It's amazing insight 279 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: from a different perspective because I'm an athlete. I see 280 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: things as an athlete point of view in Formula one. 281 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: Now in football, from a management point of view, things 282 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: are quite different. We all have our different role within 283 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: the organization and I'm probably more focused on the sporting 284 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: and trying to provide these guys the best environment and platform, 285 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: and let's say, an environment where everybody can excel in 286 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: what they're doing and not gonna lie. The Ryan Reynolds 287 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: story with Rex Tim was also quite inspiring, sure, and 288 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: what they did, and it's absolutely incredible to see what 289 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: they've achieved, and you know, hopefully one day we can 290 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: come close to what they're doing. 291 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm glad you brought that up because as 292 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 3: you were talking, I was thinking about this idea. 293 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: You know, you're going into into football. 294 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 3: That's a relatively new thing that athletes, especially current athletes, 295 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 3: are taking ownership stakes. Was that sort of an obvious 296 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 3: thing you wanted to do, because that is a it's 297 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 3: sort of a new phenomenon. 298 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. I must say it's becoming more and more common 299 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: to have athletes joining teams, I think for different reasons 300 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: from not everybody get access to this type of ownership, 301 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: but I think it depends on the individual and what 302 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: do they have to bring to the table, what's their intention, 303 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: what's the background, was their skill sets? And some time 304 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: it matches. You see, there is a question of exposure. 305 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: As an athlete, we have a huge exposure and there's 306 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: a real interest now from organization to kind of collaborates 307 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: with at least to use that exposure in growing an organization. 308 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: And yeah, I think there's a lot of parallels as 309 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: an athlete in managing your carrier that can be very 310 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: useful from an ownership point of view. 311 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so with that in mind, is that a 312 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 3: bit of a predictor of you know, what your life 313 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 3: might look like when you do stop driving? You know, 314 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 3: because you know, I don't know the athlete's career ultimately ends. 315 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 3: I know you don't want to think about that right now, 316 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 3: But like, as you think well down the line, do 317 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 3: you think about sports ownership more? Do you think about 318 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 3: broader business like what are your longer term goals when 319 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 3: it comes to, you know, the business side of Pierre Gastling. 320 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: I don't think I other stop driving my career. 321 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 3: I'm you're going to be the oldest point and they're 322 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 3: be driving an F one car around the circuit und 323 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 3: years old. 324 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: But when you're not doing that. 325 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: Well, my career might stop. I still be driving something. 326 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 2: You'll be driving something, probably very fast. 327 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: No, I think it's yeah, to touch on what you 328 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: just said. I think it's being aware. That's you know, 329 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: every sportsman's career comes to a net end at some point, 330 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:33,239 Speaker 1: and life still carries on for many, many years. And 331 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: it's not all about dose heres at the top level 332 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: of the sport that you're in. It's about what you build. 333 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: And the question should not come the day you stop, 334 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: because it's already late. And I think I was again 335 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: lucky to be surrounded by the right people to make 336 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: me aware about that situation and being you've got to 337 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: be one hundred percent focus on what's going on right now, 338 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: but just prepare the future in a way of you 339 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: having a platform thanks to your sport and the position. 340 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: I mean now I'm given opportunities that may be different 341 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: in the future. Wants everything ends and the interest will 342 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: obesily decrease as well. So it's more like, yeah, preparing 343 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: that pass away from the life I'll start once my 344 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: career and not anytime closed. But yeah, being aware of 345 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: that and the way might look like, you know, time 346 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: will tell I obviously have a lot of interest into sport, 347 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: into the business side of things. You know, I have 348 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: a lot of ideas in you know, the sort of 349 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: industries that I like to be part of, but it's 350 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: obviously at the moment allowing me time to you know, 351 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: grow my knowledge about it and make sure I make 352 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: the right thing, because I'm the type of person when 353 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: I get involved into a project, I like to I'm 354 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: doing it one hundred percent, So I commit myself hundred percent. 355 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: And with FCVs I I'm doing it for the long term. 356 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: I'm not looking at a few years of excitement and 357 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: thrill and then getting out of it, and I'm doing 358 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: it for the journey, and you know, the journey that 359 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: comes with it, and that's the way I am. So yeah, 360 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: there are definitely a lot of projects and industries I 361 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: like to explore. We live in a time where things 362 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: evolve extremely fast and you know, technologies, things ten years 363 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: ago were very different to what they are now. Seeing 364 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: myself in if one for another tenure, and I know 365 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: in tenure things will look the world will be evolving 366 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: and will be quite different. So yeah, it's in the 367 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: back of my mind. But I'm also giving allowing myself 368 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: some time to make sure make the right calls in 369 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: the future. 370 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 3: It's interesting, you know, and I say, this is someone 371 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 3: who you know, talks to a lot of people like 372 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 3: you on a regular basis. You are at it earlier, 373 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 3: I think than a lot of people are. You're approaching 374 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 3: it with a level of seriousness that not all do. 375 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 2: Where do you think that comes from? 376 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: I think from ultimately my family, you know, having this 377 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: sort of like work ethics, and I think it's also 378 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: something I've had within me since a very young age. 379 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: So I'm extremely competitive, I have a very clear mind 380 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: in what I want to achieve, very harsh on myself 381 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: and the mending. And that's the way I always motivate 382 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: myself by already from a very young age not accepting 383 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: anything less than perfection, which is impossible. So you know, 384 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: I kept hitting a hard wall, always trying to do 385 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: things better and always trying to achieve a better level 386 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: and push the boundaries of myself a bit further, and 387 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: to actually achieve that. I think over time it was 388 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: quite harsh. But I've really matured quite quickly and became 389 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: aware of different things quite early on in my career. 390 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: But I think growing up also in a family with 391 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: folder brothers, I've always said it was definitely a luxury 392 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: because you know, having older brothers, you can see what 393 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: they do well, what they do not ideally, and very 394 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: learn from it from a young age and not too sure. 395 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: There are things that you know, every individual we have 396 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: our personalities and that's the way I grew up and 397 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: probably what the sport told me and what I learned 398 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: through my own career with Yeah. 399 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 3: It's interesting that you say that because twenty nine years old, 400 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 3: and yet you know, you have to walk into that 401 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: factory on a good day on a bad day, and 402 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: you are you're the leader of the team, and not 403 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: just the leader of a small team, leader of a 404 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 3: big team. 405 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 2: You know, a thousand plus. 406 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: People who you're working with, but ultimately need to inspire 407 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 3: and motivate in order to get the result that you need. 408 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 3: How did you prepare yourself for that or was it 409 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 3: just something that you had to sort of. 410 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: Learn on the job. 411 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had to learn on the spot, because I 412 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: mean it's obviously I've always been kind of a leader 413 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: in anything I do since a very young age. Like 414 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: I kind of like the position and the responsibilities of 415 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: you know, having people on board, and I think that 416 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: was a chance to play football from you know a 417 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: very young age. Is once you jump in a gokut, 418 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: for example, it's you're steering and yourself and it's up 419 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: to you to go as fast as you can at 420 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: that given moment. When you play on a pitch, you 421 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: got ten of the teammates. You need everybody to do 422 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 1: their job correctly. And I felt as a kid already 423 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: I had to be behind them to pull them, create 424 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: the right space and the right mindset and push everybody. 425 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: I quite like that leader petition, and I think growing 426 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: up I've tried to develop those skills, try to put 427 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: myself in this type of situation because you're not always 428 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: given that chance. And even in Formula one, as wasn't 429 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: always in a position of leading a team. And it's 430 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: really position I embrace where I feel as a driver, 431 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: I can contribute in a better way, and I feel 432 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: that's when I'm able to excel in what I do, 433 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: when I get given that space and that structure and 434 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: environment to actually be myself and try to contribute in 435 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: my own way. Do feel pressure, massive pressure, But if 436 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: I got I admit I felt more pressure as a 437 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: kid going up the ladder of motor sports, not knowing 438 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: whether from one year to another my entire career was 439 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: going to stop. It's like I had to win those 440 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,719 Speaker 1: races from a very young age because I didn't have 441 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: the funding to make it to the next year, and 442 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: if I would not win, I wouldn't be able to 443 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: find sponsors to carry on. So the pressure I felt 444 00:25:52,520 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: as a kid was tremendous and really became so useful 445 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: to manage the pressure in Formula One, which is very 446 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: different but in a way more manageable from what I've 447 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: learned in the past. All over those early days. 448 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 2: How is it different. 449 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,239 Speaker 1: I'm much more in control. I'm much more aware of 450 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: who I am and what I'm good at and what 451 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: I'm bad at. Let's say you know bad, let's say 452 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: not the best at. And once you know your skill sets, 453 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: it's easy to use. First of all, it brings you 454 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: confidence in what you do, so you know the situation 455 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: that you'll be able to really excel and really bring 456 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: a lot of positive and I know the situations where 457 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: some of my teammate or people I work with will 458 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: be better at managing these type of situations. When you're 459 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: a kid. You don't really have those references. You don't 460 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: really you kind of like figuring yourself along all those years. 461 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: You try to do good things, but you're not too sure. 462 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: As a kid, I was like, I want to be 463 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: in Formula one. I want to be the best, But 464 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: do I have these skills to actually get there? Well, 465 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: I think so, But this kid is very fast. This 466 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 1: other kid is very fast, and he wants to be 467 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 1: informal I one as much as I want to do 468 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: as I want to be there, And I think you 469 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: have a lot less confidence in those early years. And 470 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,239 Speaker 1: then yeah, over the over time, I've grown up and 471 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: kind of figured myself out, and I keep figuring myself 472 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: out every single day because when I broke up to 473 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: the factory and got to talk to a talent people. 474 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: I try to do what's best and I try to 475 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: be as clear and multiversional as possible with what I know. 476 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: But there is a better way of doing things. I 477 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: don't do it the best way. The intention is the best. 478 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: I know what I want to you know, the values 479 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: and what's being the stuff I want to say, But 480 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: no one's perfect. So you're also learning along the way, 481 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: but with slightly more confidence in what I'm capable of doing. 482 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 3: It is such a fascinating sport too, because you know 483 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 3: you have competitors all around, including in your own factory. 484 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: You know you've got a teammate that you're. 485 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 3: Competing with, as does you know every other or every 486 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 3: other person. How do you balance sort of the needs 487 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 3: of the team versus the needs of the driver. That's 488 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 3: one of the quintessential questions around your sport. 489 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: I think it's an amazing question because you've got to 490 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: figure out when you come in Formula one, you are 491 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: let's say, the only driver on equal machinery is your teammates, 492 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: and you've got to work with him to make the 493 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: old team better, but obviously keeping in mind that you 494 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: want to be the best out of the two. And 495 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: then I think it's an amazing dynamic and I think 496 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: it's a great question on how we're able to balance that. 497 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: I think the key thing is understanding by working together, 498 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: you raise the overall performance of the team, which ultimately 499 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: will give you the best chances of beating all the 500 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: other guys, which is the primary goal as a team. 501 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter who win within the team, we want the 502 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: team to be the best position possible and to achieve that, 503 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: you've got to work very closely and very well with 504 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: that teammates. Once you get the max out of the team, 505 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: then you get on track. Then obviously then comes the 506 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: competition within you know, the rules, because there's guidelines that 507 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: you've got to respect. Us teammates can go over over 508 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: that limit, but obviously that's when the competition comes in. 509 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: You know, having the age over your teammates, which is 510 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: ultimately the goal of any driver. 511 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 3: And so you know, sort of along these lines mean 512 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 3: you are clearly very passionate but also very thoughtful about 513 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 3: this sport. 514 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 2: What's your favorite thing about it? 515 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 3: What is the thing that sort of pun intended, sort 516 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: of drives you At this point, you've had a lot 517 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: of success, more to come, but not enough. You're very competitive, 518 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 3: You're very driven. What is the part of it that 519 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 3: motivates you the most? 520 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: So what I love the most is the racing part, 521 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: you know, racing, getting behind the wheel, racing the other 522 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: eighteen twenty best driver in the world. There is nothing 523 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: that I find more exciting and gives me such a thrill, 524 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: you know, in my life. This is once I get 525 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: in that cockpit, put the visor down, the lights go on. 526 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: That's when I get the best feeling in my life, 527 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: and I only get it once I'm on that grid 528 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: or when i'm whenever I'm in that car. So this 529 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: is the best job in the in the world, in 530 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: my opinion, the best feeling. I'm very lucky to get 531 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: to be in the position that I am today. I'm 532 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: working really out for it, and as you say it, 533 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: I've had some success, but far from what I want 534 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: to achieve in the sport, and there's much more I 535 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: need to do, let's say, to fulfill myself entirely. But yeah, 536 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: it's it's a fascinating sport. What I love about the 537 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: driving parties, you know, taking those cars to the limit, 538 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:57,719 Speaker 1: the speeds, the adrenaline you get pushing this you know, 539 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: monster on four wheels up to the limit is really exciting. 540 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: And the lovely part about it is once you get 541 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: induced calls, nothing crosses you onlind You went to a 542 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: state of mind where the focus is so intense it 543 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: requires one hundred percent of your capacities and it takes 544 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: you to a different dimension. And that's the only moment 545 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: of my life where I get to that state. 546 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 2: I can't think of a better place to end. Thank 547 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: you so much. This is really fun. 548 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 3: Thank you, thanks so much for listening to this interview 549 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,959 Speaker 3: from my Bloomberg Originals documentary. 550 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: Mini series power Players. You watch the full series. 551 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 3: On the Bloomberg Originals YouTube page. Power Players is a 552 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 3: production of Bloomberg Originals and this interview was produced by 553 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 3: Baldwin Tang and Sophia Chalmer. James knight Gale was the 554 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 3: sound recorded. The Deal is a production for Blueberg Podcast 555 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 3: in Bloomberg Originals. This episode was produced by Innamazakis, Stacy Wang, 556 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 3: and Lizzie Phillip. 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