Speaker 1: Welcome back to return to the shadows. I'm Katherine McNamara,
Speaker 1: I'm Dominic Sherwood with a very very very special deep
Speaker 1: dive for all of each today, the deepest of dives,
Speaker 1: perhaps one of the people on the casting crew that
Speaker 1: the two of us are closest to and spent the
Speaker 1: most time with throughout this whole process. Other than each other, obviously,
Speaker 1: but today we have the one and only Simon Lewis,
Speaker 1: your lordship Daylighter himself, Alberta Resende. Alberto isn't here. God,
Speaker 1: after all that intro, he has the audacity to be late.
Speaker 1: We could tell him being late story whilst he's late,
Speaker 1: which would be quite funny. With what story is that?
Speaker 1: Do you not remember this or you do remember and
Speaker 1: you're just making me say it. I don't know which
Speaker 1: story you're thinking of. There there are a few stories.
Speaker 1: I'll tell it. I don't care, I'll tell it, okay. So,
Speaker 1: as we've mentioned before, we all ended up living in
Speaker 1: fairly close proximity to each other, so when they would
Speaker 1: pick us up, they would often start at me who
Speaker 1: was the northmost department, and then come down and pick
Speaker 1: everyone up on the way. And Alberto was always late,
Speaker 1: not much, just by like sort of five minutes, but
Speaker 1: it was always late, to the point where when he
Speaker 1: was on time, he was given candy. On set, Vibs
Speaker 1: are base camp. A would reward him for being on
Speaker 1: time by giving him candy. And I was like, excuse me,
Speaker 1: question mark always on time? I'm always on time. Where's
Speaker 1: my candy? It don't seems super fair on there? You
Speaker 1: know what? You just got Vibs undying love and affection,
Speaker 1: as did the rest of us the run time. Actually,
Speaker 1: I would love to see if we can reach out
Speaker 1: to Vibs. I hear from her occasionally and get her
Speaker 1: on the show because The Lovely the Booty was our
Speaker 1: trailer third eight. And for those of you who aren't
Speaker 1: familiar with film and television sets, you know there's often
Speaker 1: what we call base camp where hair and makeup and
Speaker 1: all of our dressing rooms which are usually trailers on
Speaker 1: a show like Shadow Hunters, and we all sort of
Speaker 1: convene in the morning and Vibbs is in charge of
Speaker 1: making sure we get where we need to go and
Speaker 1: we get through all of the processing and everything else.
Speaker 1: And without Vibs the show would not have happened. We
Speaker 1: would all have fallen apart. I mean she she really
Speaker 1: truly took care of us and was largely responsible for
Speaker 1: the majority of our mental sanity throughout the entire show.
Speaker 1: What else do we know about Alberto that we can discuss?
Speaker 1: What else can be back about about This is something
Speaker 1: we always used to give Alberto a bit of trouble
Speaker 1: for is this was one of his first profession jobs
Speaker 1: after university. We should talk to him about this as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he saves me off, has pissed me off a lot.
Speaker 1: Because you you, as an actor, nine times out of ten,
Speaker 1: you don't just walk into like a lead role on
Speaker 1: something massive, you know exactly. You think about people like,
Speaker 1: who's a good example, didn't O'Brien's a great example? Who
Speaker 1: he didn't just walk into teen War four to the
Speaker 1: Maze Runo with Cat built himself up. But the ones
Speaker 1: that you recognize him four of those two. So you
Speaker 1: assume that he has just jumped into these roles, and
Speaker 1: that wasn't the case unless you're Alberto Resende, And it
Speaker 1: actually wasn't. He left school early to have joined our show,
Speaker 1: who wasn't even finished with his schooling yet to walk
Speaker 1: right on in. But you know, that's that's just our
Speaker 1: alberta overachiever. You know he's still saved as Simon Lewis.
Speaker 1: And my phone, I don't think I'm ever going to
Speaker 1: change the robo cop on mine? Is he still brobo
Speaker 1: cup in your phone? There he is Alberto and sideways
Speaker 1: A sideways? Yeah on my phone? You're on your phone?
Speaker 1: Can you turn your phone the other way? Think it
Speaker 1: told me not to do this? Be a rebel? There
Speaker 1: we go. It seems to be working. I feel bad.
Speaker 1: I had a weak test it up to find these headphones.
Speaker 1: Did you're back in l A. We're gonna have to
Speaker 1: get together? No, I'm in the UK. How are we
Speaker 1: always ships passing in the night? I'm here till Tuesday,
Speaker 1: till Tuesday. Tuesday so called because it's the second day.
Speaker 1: I thought Sunday was the first day of the week,
Speaker 1: isn't it? Oh? Well, is the first? It's like the
Speaker 1: ace of days of the week. You know it can
Speaker 1: be a too or well biblically, when of the seven
Speaker 1: days the world was great in the seven days, Sunday
Speaker 1: was the seventh day. You're right, Sunday. Sunday was the
Speaker 1: seventh day. You call it the first day? If you want,
Speaker 1: but you're just challenging the lord. Okay, well that's a
Speaker 1: place to start. Well, I just like starting the first
Speaker 1: day off of the rest. We were just talking about
Speaker 1: that before you checked in. We were just talking about
Speaker 1: being fucking late time. We thought it was. There was
Speaker 1: a fun irony to the fact that, like, while he's
Speaker 1: not here at the appropriate time, we'll talk about how
Speaker 1: he's late and Candy of course, of course, yes, Alberto,
Speaker 1: why don't we dive in here and you go ahead
Speaker 1: and introduce yourself for the fine folks. Tell us a
Speaker 1: little bit about you, maybe a couple of fun facts,
Speaker 1: a couple of tidbits about the one and only Alberta Rescende.
Speaker 1: The irony about the one and only Alberta Rescende is
Speaker 1: aren't you a third That's true, I've never thought. I
Speaker 1: guess the introduction is incorrect then, huh, yeah, I guess. So.
Speaker 1: I had a line in Chicago Fire a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago in the episode just aired, where I literally say, like,
Speaker 1: what does no one else like me on my own type?
Speaker 1: And now I'm like, well no, I'm actually a set
Speaker 1: of three like I come and set very old version
Speaker 1: not to be sold separately. I mean, shall we say
Speaker 1: third times a charm? Though? Yeah? Should I just should?
Speaker 1: I just dive in, dive in baby dive in. Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm third times a charm awesome? All right? Well what's up?
Speaker 1: My name's Alberto Rosende. I played the part of Simon
Speaker 1: Lewis in shadow Hunters. I'm currently on Chicago Fire. I
Speaker 1: have been acting since I was a kid, but shadow
Speaker 1: Hunters is actually my first job, like as a professional actor.
Speaker 1: So that was like my foray into this industry. And
Speaker 1: apologies Stella. My cat keeps rubbing against the legs of
Speaker 1: the tripods, so you see it move slightly. It's because
Speaker 1: of Stella. I have a cat. She's the person that
Speaker 1: the being I'm speaking of? What else? What else? What
Speaker 1: else should I say about myself? I had an amazing
Speaker 1: time shooting three seasons of the show with you two
Speaker 1: Lovely people. Rewatching episode three was really a trip to
Speaker 1: bring back some memories. Huh. So this this episode of
Speaker 1: the podcast is coming right after we just did our
Speaker 1: episode three rewatch. So we've just been through the ringer
Speaker 1: with you capt a couple of times, hung upside down
Speaker 1: a couple of times, talk us through a little bit
Speaker 1: of when you first got the audition first, Simon, were
Speaker 1: you familiar with the books? Did you know anything about it,
Speaker 1: because we've spoken about this, Yeah, but we so you
Speaker 1: tell us your experience, because we had an interesting experience
Speaker 1: meeting you as well. Yeah. Alright, so my my experience
Speaker 1: audition for the show was really weird, which I think
Speaker 1: is is cool for people listening. They I don't think
Speaker 1: they understand or or some of them might not know
Speaker 1: the audition process and like it's literally, as you guys know,
Speaker 1: it's a long process. You don't you don't just do
Speaker 1: the thing once and they're like, great, here's the job
Speaker 1: some of us do. I didn't do it. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I did it so many times. I just not as
Speaker 1: many as you guys. Let's do I auditional auditions. Let's
Speaker 1: say that was that pilot season, and in the beginning
Speaker 1: of the pilot season, this this audition had come through.
Speaker 1: I went into a room in New York and auditioned.
Speaker 1: Nothing happened, didn't hear anything. A couple of weeks later,
Speaker 1: the audition came through again and they were like, by
Speaker 1: the way they changed casting directors, you're gonna send a
Speaker 1: tape in I was like, okay, cool. So I read
Speaker 1: the same lines, sent a tap in a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks past, nothing happened, and I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: well that must be the end of that. Then I
Speaker 1: got a tape again that I actually had to go
Speaker 1: into a room New York, but in order to send
Speaker 1: a tape, which was weird. It wasn't like I did
Speaker 1: it. It It wasn't a regular self tape. I went into
Speaker 1: a casting office, they did a tape and then sent
Speaker 1: it and I was like, all right, cool. And that
Speaker 1: was let's say, like by the time that happened, that
Speaker 1: was like March. And then I didn't hear anything all
Speaker 1: through April. So I'm like, all right, as you guys know,
Speaker 1: if you don't hear anything for more than a week,
Speaker 1: you could probably just you know, part way about it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then I was visiting my brother in Boston because
Speaker 1: I was like, I had nothing to do. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: graduating college right now. I've auditioned what I've auditioned, so
Speaker 1: I'm just chilling. And then they said I got a call.
Speaker 1: Literally were at like a pre game. My brothers like
Speaker 1: and and I get a phone call. They're like, hey,
Speaker 1: Albertue I know it's Friday, and I know that you're
Speaker 1: out of town. They want you back in New York
Speaker 1: by Monday so that we can fly you to l
Speaker 1: A Monday afternoon. And I'm like, oh, for a test,
Speaker 1: and they're like yeah, to test for the role. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, wow, that's cool. So for everyone listening,
Speaker 1: the test is the process where they've dwindled it down
Speaker 1: to like their top ten. Possibly maybe it's maybe smaller,
Speaker 1: but they've dwindled it down, or they're like it's one
Speaker 1: of the I think it was like four round between. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's normally between no more than ten, and they have
Speaker 1: to have at least two people to test against each other,
Speaker 1: so somewhere in between that number normally. Yes. So for
Speaker 1: that first room, that first test, it was like eight
Speaker 1: Simons that I remember. So then I I flew back
Speaker 1: like Saturday party my brother that night, like having something
Speaker 1: to celebrate, flew back the next day, took a day
Speaker 1: in New York to like prepare and whatever. Then Monday
Speaker 1: they called me and they're like, hey, sorry, we're pushing
Speaker 1: your test a week and I'm like ah, because I
Speaker 1: was supposed to be in Boston for like a whole
Speaker 1: week and a half and they're like, we're gonna push
Speaker 1: it to next week, so don't worry. You' plenty of time.
Speaker 1: And like, I already rushed to get back to New York,
Speaker 1: so I had I had all this extra time. So
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I know it's based on
Speaker 1: a book, so I'm gonna I'm gonna read the book.
Speaker 1: So I read the first book before I even got there,
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, I know, there's like six
Speaker 1: of them, so I'll I'll keep reading. So because I
Speaker 1: had never read I had never read a fantasy series
Speaker 1: before this. I didn't know that. So it was like
Speaker 1: my discovery. I mean, I've read fantasy books, but in
Speaker 1: terms of a full series, I've never read a series. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was cool. So I was like, oh, there's another book.
Speaker 1: It's the same, I'm gonna go right in. So I
Speaker 1: read the second book, and that when I burned through
Speaker 1: even faster than the first one because now there was
Speaker 1: that like established world that I was excited about. And
Speaker 1: then by the time the test came around, I was
Speaker 1: reading the third book. I was halfway through. That's insane.
Speaker 1: I love that. That's so very simon of view. Were
Speaker 1: you at that point imagining yourself as Simon, were you
Speaker 1: seeing yourself when you were reading it? And that was
Speaker 1: the coolest thing. I was, like, I got flown to
Speaker 1: l A. It's like my first time being flown anywhere
Speaker 1: for work. So that was a cool experience. Took me
Speaker 1: straight to a hotel. Never been to l A before,
Speaker 1: and at this time, no one I know. I had graduated,
Speaker 1: so I had no friends out in l A. I
Speaker 1: was all. It was a completely new place. So I
Speaker 1: stayed in my hotel and who I like, tried to
Speaker 1: walk somewhere because I've been living in New York. So
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, try to walk and get some food.
Speaker 1: You can't do that, So I ended up like ended
Speaker 1: up being like, I'm gonna stay just really focused then
Speaker 1: since I literally can't do anything else. The first day,
Speaker 1: you go in for your what they called like the
Speaker 1: producer director's session, which is where we met ed Dector
Speaker 1: and yeah, that's where I saw you the first time.
Speaker 1: That's where I saw for the first time. But that
Speaker 1: first day was just us Simmons. We go in, we'd
Speaker 1: read and that's actually also where I met Yeah, they
Speaker 1: were all assistants at the time, so it was cool
Speaker 1: that we all kind of started this process together there
Speaker 1: in that audition room. I remember thinking about it because
Speaker 1: you read the books, you get an idea of what
Speaker 1: this guy could look like and what he could sound
Speaker 1: like and be like. And after reading them, sitting in
Speaker 1: that audition room, I felt like I could cast the
Speaker 1: role too, because I had a little bit of knowledge.
Speaker 1: I was watching some people walk in, I was like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: he's that guy's way too like buff and good looking
Speaker 1: to be Simon, Like he should be auditioning for like
Speaker 1: Jace or Alec or that guy is very tall and
Speaker 1: very cool. Tim It's not that cool. And then there's
Speaker 1: another guy coming in with like glasses in a backpack,
Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, that at least he's got the
Speaker 1: glasses thing right. So I actually went and had a
Speaker 1: pair of glasses that I wore because I know Simon
Speaker 1: would glasses. So I made that choice, and I also
Speaker 1: kind of like any actor that didn't make that choice.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's that's an easy choice to make.
Speaker 1: Like it says the character wis glasses. Anytime you see
Speaker 1: a reference picture of him, he's wearing glasses. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's the obvious choice. That was the choice that I
Speaker 1: don't know why people didn't make that. Yeah, well that's
Speaker 1: interesting because that's what Cat and I were talking about,
Speaker 1: because I, well, you and I Alberta, we were in
Speaker 1: the same sort of round of auditions of Claire Sin
Speaker 1: Simon's Masabel's, and I will never forget walking into that
Speaker 1: room because, like you said, you kind of look around
Speaker 1: and you you've done the research and you know a
Speaker 1: bit of okay, what your at least picture is. And
Speaker 1: I walked in and I looked around the room and
Speaker 1: Emarad wasn't there yet, but I saw a bench the
Speaker 1: Isabel's and I'm like, okay, and I saw a couple
Speaker 1: other claries and I went, yeah, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: And I looked at all the Simons and immediately clocked
Speaker 1: you and went but the first thought in my head was, well,
Speaker 1: there's Simon Lewis. From from minute one, I remember, you
Speaker 1: were the only person who was keeping up with any
Speaker 1: kind of like banter or conversation or or that was
Speaker 1: actually able to play while we were sitting and waiting
Speaker 1: and all of this. And I just instantly went, all right, well,
Speaker 1: if this guy doesn't get the part then I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. Well, I'll say that that
Speaker 1: was something that was funny. Like, so after the first test,
Speaker 1: you go home and then they call you and they say, hey, congratulations,
Speaker 1: should go into the next round. And the next round
Speaker 1: is where all of us were in the same room
Speaker 1: for the producer session where we met like all of
Speaker 1: the people at Constantine, essentially all those awesome people. Constantine
Speaker 1: is the production company that owns the rights to Shadow
Speaker 1: Into So Constantine also did the movie, they owned the
Speaker 1: rights to the books. Yeah, and they're the ones that
Speaker 1: produced it. They're the ones that did the studio and
Speaker 1: had people on the ground like they're the team that
Speaker 1: produced it. And I was like, that was when when
Speaker 1: it was all Simon's the vibe was like really chill.
Speaker 1: It was as if there's a room full of Peter Parkers.
Speaker 1: It was just like people talking about things. Someone brings
Speaker 1: up a video game. Next thing you know, everyone's chatting
Speaker 1: and Taylor and Zoe are chiming in and the producers
Speaker 1: come out. They're like, hey, can you keep it down.
Speaker 1: You guys are here to do a job, not to work.
Speaker 1: So so that's fun. And then the claries came in
Speaker 1: and the energy just got a little better, like now
Speaker 1: there was more people to bounce off. Everyone's laughing, and
Speaker 1: then the Isabel's came in and it went dead silent.
Speaker 1: You're so right it did because everyone got buttoned up
Speaker 1: because they were all like, I'm I am prized, we're here,
Speaker 1: we're focused, we're tall, we're in heels like we're prepared,
Speaker 1: and we're all wearing like jeans and you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I just remember the whole shift and I was excited.
Speaker 1: I was like yeah, and then someone walked in, We're
Speaker 1: like cool. Shoot, when I walked in, I knew, well,
Speaker 1: you sort of know that you had the part, but
Speaker 1: then also you're still kind of I've been off with
Speaker 1: the role and I'd accepted the role, but you're also
Speaker 1: still like, I don't know, man, if they love one
Speaker 1: of these claries and we don't gell, then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden they're like, hey man, sorry, and then I'm
Speaker 1: gone and they have a new Jay's coming in m
Speaker 1: Fortunately everything worked out and it was great. I remember
Speaker 1: walking into the room. I had my suitcase with me
Speaker 1: because I was flying back to England that day. I
Speaker 1: remember my potential claries in front of me a new
Speaker 1: cat already, and I was like, okay, great, well, this
Speaker 1: sort of seems like a done deal. And then I
Speaker 1: looked at the Simons and there was a bunch of
Speaker 1: them are all fairly similar looking, you all sort of
Speaker 1: and it's interesting that you mentioned because it was one
Speaker 1: of you wearing glasses and I was like, that's him,
Speaker 1: that's him, that's him. The other two doesn't matter how
Speaker 1: good they are, how right they are for the role.
Speaker 1: This is the guy who understands who this person is
Speaker 1: and has and I can tell. And that was my
Speaker 1: first sort of foray into albertover Sunday being the actor
Speaker 1: that we have grown to love so much. Is because
Speaker 1: you did do that extra work, You did take that
Speaker 1: extra step, You do try that a little bit harder.
Speaker 1: There's I think there's a story that's in this audition
Speaker 1: thing that I don't know if a lot of people know,
Speaker 1: and I think it's actually what got Oh, I know
Speaker 1: what this story is. I'm so excited. It was. So
Speaker 1: we're at We're at like the free Form offices and
Speaker 1: this is like a it's like like Disney Channels on
Speaker 1: the top floor. It's there, Yeah, exactly. So like I'm
Speaker 1: like this office is actually really cool, like there's a
Speaker 1: bunch of Disney paraphernalia and Mickey Mouse like Winken actually
Speaker 1: walk into like this is it feels like exciting, like
Speaker 1: being in that space, especially like where we auditioned with
Speaker 1: that big black box theater they had. It was like,
Speaker 1: so we were there for hours while everyone was testing
Speaker 1: and everyone was being really good about not wandering, but
Speaker 1: naturally I got very bored after a certain points. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm just like do a little prus, like
Speaker 1: a little lap and uh. I started to go towards
Speaker 1: the bathroom and as I'm about to go into the bathroom,
Speaker 1: I see a sign that says like Cereal bar this way,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's spelled like Cereal, like breakfast Cereal,
Speaker 1: and it said bar like drinking bar. If this is
Speaker 1: what I think it is, this could be revolutionary. I
Speaker 1: like both of those things. I was like, I if
Speaker 1: I don't get this job, I will say I at
Speaker 1: least got to see the Cereal box chip. I'm that
Speaker 1: silver lining. So like walk over and it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: the doors closed and everything, but I like peek in
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my gosh, So I like take
Speaker 1: a step in and I'm like, this is crazy. There's
Speaker 1: a whole bar of cereal. They've got fruity pebbles and
Speaker 1: fruit loops and and and I'm like this is incredible.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it and I'm like, should I make
Speaker 1: a Like I I'd be wrong, and I can just
Speaker 1: eat it in the bathroom real quick. I was like,
Speaker 1: I have time, So I was like about to grab
Speaker 1: a bowl when Elizabeth walks in. Is Elizabeth Elizabeth? It wasn't.
Speaker 1: I can't think it's getting her name right now. Nope,
Speaker 1: she did, Katherine, of course. It happened the walks for
Speaker 1: a talent ahead of pr Press and she walks in
Speaker 1: and she's like oh, and I'm like, hi, how are you?
Speaker 1: And she's like are you supposed to be with the
Speaker 1: auditioning group of actors? And I was like, is that
Speaker 1: over there? Yeah? I guess. So I thought this was
Speaker 1: the bathroom with fold of cereal. Yeah. It was so weird,
Speaker 1: and she's, you know, I'm sorry, and then I just,
Speaker 1: of course, because I just come clean and like, I've
Speaker 1: just never seen a Cereal bar before. I thought this
Speaker 1: was really cool. I'm gonna put this back and she's like, okay,
Speaker 1: so she like opens the door and I walk out,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, I'm not getting this job. But
Speaker 1: I think I think that that that might have been
Speaker 1: one of the reasons she's because it's like, when you
Speaker 1: think back on the character and stuff, now, I'm like,
Speaker 1: that was actually something Simon would absolutely to get in
Speaker 1: trouble for. And and I don't know where I had
Speaker 1: the goal. It was my first audition, like cats, but yeah,
Speaker 1: good lord about that. When you're in that sort of
Speaker 1: audition process, it's so foreign, and you you are aware
Speaker 1: the stakes are so high because you've gone and you've
Speaker 1: signed your contract for six years, you've done all these things.
Speaker 1: You're just sort of in an altered state of consciousness anyway.
Speaker 1: And then suddenly when that you know, you see a
Speaker 1: sign as a Cereal bar, you have to follow it exactly.
Speaker 1: You have to. So you know, we did the test,
Speaker 1: the serial bar situation aside, it was only a benefit
Speaker 1: to you, and I think you the next day had
Speaker 1: a chemistry test, which no one told me that I
Speaker 1: didn't know. Well, that night we finished our tests and whatever,
Speaker 1: and we did it in front of mc gee and
Speaker 1: everything that you know that that process was now done
Speaker 1: and I remember going home calling my manager and being like, hey,
Speaker 1: I finished. I think it when I did as I
Speaker 1: did as well as I could. Uh, do you tell
Speaker 1: your manager you got caught stealing Cereal Disney jail? But
Speaker 1: maybe I'll find like you didn't I till you got not.
Speaker 1: So I remember waiting and then I got the phone
Speaker 1: call and she was like, all right, so I have
Speaker 1: some news and I'm like, that's not you didn't say
Speaker 1: good news. All right, what's up? And she's like, you
Speaker 1: have one more audition and I'm like I thought, because
Speaker 1: when you build up that you're done. At a certain point,
Speaker 1: you're done. And I remember I had been getting sick too,
Speaker 1: so I was like, you know how you can do that?
Speaker 1: You can keep the sick away until so I was
Speaker 1: like after that audition, I was like, all right, I'm done.
Speaker 1: I can get sick. I started to get sick. My
Speaker 1: manager tells me that I have one more audition, and
Speaker 1: I swear. I was like, more, I've got one more,
Speaker 1: let's do it. And then um and then on the
Speaker 1: way there, like instead of like a Prius regular Uber,
Speaker 1: it was like an Uber black and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's stepped up. And then they were like, oh, the
Speaker 1: role is yours. You got the role. You're testing with Clary,
Speaker 1: And I was like, so then when I got when
Speaker 1: I got to Disney, like Mick g and Ed came
Speaker 1: and met me, and I met a lot of like
Speaker 1: people that we ended up working with for years after
Speaker 1: that in that room. And then I tested with Cat,
Speaker 1: I tested with one other Clary, and then I had
Speaker 1: to continue with them to do all of my like
Speaker 1: remember all the announcement stuff, the picture, and then we
Speaker 1: had to like post and share our socials and do
Speaker 1: that whole mess that ends up becoming like a whole thing.
Speaker 1: That's something we should talk about as well. That can
Speaker 1: I haven't spoken about on this yet. Like that Cat,
Speaker 1: you a fairly social media savvy Alberta, you as well.
Speaker 1: I'm not. And that was my real first foray into Like,
Speaker 1: holy fucking shit, this is insane. A lot of I
Speaker 1: only am because of Shadow Hunters because of that training.
Speaker 1: That this was your first foray into it as well.
Speaker 1: I mean I'd done a Disney Channel pilot back in
Speaker 1: the day that was supposed to be like the first
Speaker 1: time they did high school musical the series, so they
Speaker 1: had that's the whole reason I had social media in
Speaker 1: the first place was because of that pilot. But then
Speaker 1: this is the first time that I was ever you know,
Speaker 1: we got all that training and they kind of taught
Speaker 1: us how to use social media. And that's the only
Speaker 1: reason that to this day I know anything is because
Speaker 1: free Form and the fandom taught me how to use
Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram. I wish, I wish I paid more
Speaker 1: attention in learning, but I didn't. But I'll tell you
Speaker 1: that that was a crazy, Like that's something we haven't
Speaker 1: talked about. Was like we went from I mean, you guys,
Speaker 1: because of this the jobs you had before, you guys
Speaker 1: had like followings a little bit we say little, but
Speaker 1: I mean it was still like substantial in terms of
Speaker 1: like you had check marks and you had that K
Speaker 1: next to it. So I was like, yeah, you guys
Speaker 1: had people. You guys knew to turn your notifications off.
Speaker 1: At that point, had done basic thing. But so the
Speaker 1: thing I started at a at a behind place. But
Speaker 1: because like I had done nothing else, it was all
Speaker 1: set up the right way the first time, you know,
Speaker 1: But that was crazy. We went from like the only
Speaker 1: people I knew on my Instagram were people that I
Speaker 1: knew for them having I had to turn my phone
Speaker 1: off that day. I feel like you guys probably the
Speaker 1: same the day that we got announced working. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they did. Mine stopped it just there was so much
Speaker 1: coming into it. It just stopped working. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: And I remember I had told my girlfriend at the time,
Speaker 1: we knew we were getting news that day, good or bad.
Speaker 1: We knew we were getting news. So I texted saying hey, sorry,
Speaker 1: it didn't go my way as a joke, and at
Speaker 1: that moment it just went send them. My phone died
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh no. It was like eight
Speaker 1: hours of like my phone just didn't work. Because the
Speaker 1: other thing is as well, the interesting thing with social
Speaker 1: media that nobody really teaches you is time zones. So
Speaker 1: like you're like, oh, it's over, Like it's fine, it's
Speaker 1: done after two hours, and then East Coast wakes up
Speaker 1: and you get influxed again, and then like wakes up
Speaker 1: and get again. Yeah, yeah, that's wy that's well. Well.
Speaker 1: I remember with me they told me or they had
Speaker 1: announced it on Twitter. They had the hashtag like who
Speaker 1: is Clary and they said okay in two hours, and
Speaker 1: it was ten minutes before the two hours was up,
Speaker 1: and I was like at that point, I went, Okay,
Speaker 1: well I haven't heard anything, so it must not be me.
Speaker 1: My team calls and goes, hey, we still haven't heard anything,
Speaker 1: so hang tight. And it was literally less than ten
Speaker 1: minutes before they announced it when they called me. And
Speaker 1: I had gone to the gym at this point, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I've got to work out this
Speaker 1: energy somehow, so I'm like sweaty at the gym whatever.
Speaker 1: And they called and said, hey, um, congratulations, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be playing Clary. Can you come to free Form like
Speaker 1: now and do a bunch of pictures and social media stuff?
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, give me time. It's up
Speaker 1: here there, like we know you live close, Yes, And
Speaker 1: here we are seven years later. Can you believe that
Speaker 1: no other than you? Cat? Alberto was the first one
Speaker 1: I met, and Cat and I have met previously. Alberto
Speaker 1: and I met in Toronto. I think I was there
Speaker 1: a day ahead of you as well, because it was
Speaker 1: one day I was coming in and I texted you
Speaker 1: to be like, hey, I'm Alberto. I'm I'm the guy
Speaker 1: playing Simon. I just got in town. If you wanted
Speaker 1: to like meet up, get get a drink or some food,
Speaker 1: and we remember and we literally went out a beer
Speaker 1: and steak. We You know what's interesting is I think
Speaker 1: we've been I think we went to that steak place
Speaker 1: one time and it was just that time. Is where
Speaker 1: did you guys go to? It was like Queen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Queen and sped Dina on the corner of Queen and Dina. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh wild so like right next to like the A
Speaker 1: and W. Yeah, like it was. It was. It started
Speaker 1: to Z. It was called like Z something something I
Speaker 1: don't remember. I don't know. That's that's really cool. Are
Speaker 1: you sure it started with a Z? You know, because
Speaker 1: I think it was called L A L O. That
Speaker 1: sounds right. It actually does sound right. Maybe it was,
Speaker 1: let's call it that. But now, so now we're all
Speaker 1: in Toronto and we're casting the show, and we so
Speaker 1: let's talk about the pilot a little bit and let's talk. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going to realize back in Sorry, sorry, sorry, I'm ready.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about the first episode. Let's let's talk
Speaker 1: about the pilot. Let's talk about the first episode. Now,
Speaker 1: I remember we loved working with Mike g and there
Speaker 1: was a particular moment in the pilot that did not
Speaker 1: make the cut. That we've been waiting to tell this
Speaker 1: story and it goes in the Pandemonian Club. I know
Speaker 1: exactly what you're talking about. Is so good at like
Speaker 1: talking to background and people around us and just throwing
Speaker 1: even even other cast members and just throwing random stuff
Speaker 1: at us to to bring out new moments. And McGee
Speaker 1: did this to you in such a unique way. That
Speaker 1: was actually my first that was my first day on set.
Speaker 1: That was my first that was my first actions regular. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why it was such a big deal because he
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna he was like, I'm gonna Christen
Speaker 1: this kid. So it's it's so for everyone curious. It's
Speaker 1: the moment where Simon and Clary walk into Pandemonium for
Speaker 1: the first time, and Simon's like, what you heard you
Speaker 1: heard me and a Pandemonium for the first time and
Speaker 1: uh yeah, cat wow. So um So it's that moment
Speaker 1: when he walks in and he kind of takes in
Speaker 1: the whole thing and it zooms into him. He's like,
Speaker 1: where are we the whole moment that happens in Pandemonia,
Speaker 1: not in the institute. So like it's that moment. You
Speaker 1: guys have been shooting for like four or five days
Speaker 1: at this point, I haven't had a day on set,
Speaker 1: so you guys had already started that process, and I
Speaker 1: hadn't met any of the crew yet. I was I
Speaker 1: only meant, you know at that point, so um, and
Speaker 1: I've been on set, but like I hadn't seen action,
Speaker 1: and I hadn't been in a job where like this
Speaker 1: was the first time where it was like for me
Speaker 1: and it and ed like I don't think. Also, like
Speaker 1: the scale of what that was, it was like a
Speaker 1: lot bigger than I recognized right now then I was
Speaker 1: able to recognize then. So in the moment McGee runs up,
Speaker 1: he's all right, Bud, so this is your first take.
Speaker 1: You're gonna walk up to this mark. And then I
Speaker 1: told one of the extras to just like interact with you,
Speaker 1: just like improv with them and then keep going with
Speaker 1: the scene. And I'm like, great, cool. He's like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: doing great, Bud. You know, He's like he's so high
Speaker 1: energy and like he really brought you along. All right, cool, Yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks man for sure. And he walks away and I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, all right. They said they say action and
Speaker 1: that was like, I still remember that moment because that's like,
Speaker 1: you know, you remember the moment they first say action,
Speaker 1: and I remember when they wrapped us like the entirely,
Speaker 1: very clearly to like book in that so they say action,
Speaker 1: we turned the corner. I see it. And then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, this extra in like tight lingerie with
Speaker 1: a shaved head comes up just grabs my face and
Speaker 1: then licks the entire side of my face from like
Speaker 1: chin before it and it's just like wide tongue really
Speaker 1: like scoops half of my face with it, like and
Speaker 1: I had a line like, oh my god, and I
Speaker 1: remember it happening and me just being so out of
Speaker 1: my I remember feeling like, how am I supposed to
Speaker 1: stay in character? Like this is my first take? Oh
Speaker 1: my god? I said the line. They said cut and
Speaker 1: then everyone died laughing, and that extra was like, I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry she told me to do that. I know
Speaker 1: I've never met you, and I was like, can you
Speaker 1: imagine if you had that fold of a background performer
Speaker 1: and you're just like, you know what I'm gonna do here,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a name for myself. I'm gonna lick
Speaker 1: one of the series like it is. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm gonna I'm gonna make that moment memorable.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Hey, what did you do today? I
Speaker 1: got to lick a series regular. You know, yeah, I
Speaker 1: got That's a good day. This is stuff that you
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be able to get away with anymore. Intimacy
Speaker 1: coordinators and COVID as well. Yeah, that that is not
Speaker 1: an opportunity that you would have to be like randomly
Speaker 1: licked this person. Uh wild West. It's true, it was
Speaker 1: actually the wild West. But you know that that started
Speaker 1: off our process so wonderfully because we had this sense
Speaker 1: of play and we had this sense of you know, okay,
Speaker 1: we're in this together and we're going to get everything
Speaker 1: thrown at us from every direction and we're gonna roll
Speaker 1: with it. And that's what we do. Remember that first
Speaker 1: dinner we all went to as well, you know, Isaiah
Speaker 1: and Harry brought it up so aptly and they said, look, guys,
Speaker 1: because they had been you know, through a million things,
Speaker 1: and they're like, we can make this amazing or this
Speaker 1: can be hell, and let's you know, let's all be
Speaker 1: a team and let's move forward and roll with the
Speaker 1: punches and be good to each other. And you know,
Speaker 1: you two were a huge part of that for me,
Speaker 1: given that I spent so much time with both of
Speaker 1: you and learned so much from both of you. We
Speaker 1: had I think it was just like that we were
Speaker 1: all at the right age, we were all in a
Speaker 1: new place, and we all we're all playing friends, so
Speaker 1: like that energy had to kind of be there. You know,
Speaker 1: let's be real, I'm the third wheel in this situation.
Speaker 1: For a long time, we have talked about this. This
Speaker 1: is what we've talked about, how different the show would
Speaker 1: have been if if Jason Simon had met instead of
Speaker 1: like if Clary wasn't there. She was like in the
Speaker 1: bathroom and we had met and like I like you,
Speaker 1: I like you too, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's like Shadow Bros. For three days. So that's the
Speaker 1: five episode mini series we're making. It's called and it's
Speaker 1: just I'm down. If only we should have thought about
Speaker 1: it whilst to a filming, those sets pretty don't exist,
Speaker 1: that know, but that would be so fun, Like I
Speaker 1: would go around with you and Diego and me, like
Speaker 1: around New York and just I have some of the
Speaker 1: costumes still do the mini series mini series. I think
Speaker 1: it could be really good fun. Going back to the show,
Speaker 1: it was, it was crazy to rewatch. I I don't
Speaker 1: know was this when you guys started this podcast. Was
Speaker 1: that the first time you decided to rewatch or had
Speaker 1: to rewatch any of the things we shot because I
Speaker 1: had just experienced sorry, continued, I asked a question. I
Speaker 1: should have waited. We're here to talk to you. They've
Speaker 1: heard us enough, Alberta. This isn't the reason we're bringing
Speaker 1: guests on because they listen to us to all the time.
Speaker 1: We need we need them to listen to other people,
Speaker 1: because you know, they get sick of that. Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's fair, But I'll just keep going, Like just ignore John,
Speaker 1: let's keep talking. It's not important. I just remember that. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I kind of forgot the question I asked the first time.
Speaker 1: That wasn't because for me, it really was. So it
Speaker 1: was interesting to like remember things about I remember when
Speaker 1: we shot that. Oh my gosh, that was a funny.
Speaker 1: That was a fun day, or like that day we
Speaker 1: were there all day. That was a long day. Like
Speaker 1: do you guys have blank spaces? Because I have I
Speaker 1: have like whole scenes like big scenes where I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't remember being there. I don't know how I'm
Speaker 1: in this scene. I do not remember being there after
Speaker 1: I mean after what happened in episode three obviously, like three,
Speaker 1: four and five, there are big chunks of it where
Speaker 1: I'm on pretty heavy pain killers, So I obviously don't
Speaker 1: remember those ones. But even later on, there are some
Speaker 1: episodes where I'm like, that's not me. I definitely didn't
Speaker 1: do that, and then I turned around, it's my face,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, weird there. When the first time the
Speaker 1: episode aired, I remember sitting there doing a live tweeting.
Speaker 1: It was a scene with you and I Alberto, and
Speaker 1: I turned to you and I went, I don't remember, huh.
Speaker 1: I have no recollection of shooting this scene. I forgot
Speaker 1: about it entirely. We were just I think we were
Speaker 1: just moving so fast. Everything was. We had to get
Speaker 1: so many things done those first few episodes. It was
Speaker 1: like taking this giant plane off the ground. So like
Speaker 1: we were constantly either at the gym or doing hair
Speaker 1: and makeup things, are doing costume things or onset shooting
Speaker 1: or doing in season one are very interesting stunt rehearsals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have touched on that, and I've been quite open
Speaker 1: about how happy I was that we got a new
Speaker 1: team in season two. Like, the key thing about stunts
Speaker 1: is that there are these two sort of basic rules.
Speaker 1: You can't complain if you want to do if you
Speaker 1: want to do your own stunts, you can't complain every
Speaker 1: time you get like a bruise. You can't do that.
Speaker 1: Like if you've asked to do your stunts, if you're
Speaker 1: willing to put yourself through it, you can't complain every
Speaker 1: time you scrape from me. However, you also should not
Speaker 1: get injured. Yeah, it's a it's a it's a middle
Speaker 1: ground you have to find between pushing yourself but also
Speaker 1: understanding you can't get hurt or else the process slows
Speaker 1: down entirely, exactly. Like we talked about this a lot.
Speaker 1: We talked about trust a lot. And it's not just
Speaker 1: we talked We've talked about it in three capacities. With stunts,
Speaker 1: which is the obvious one of physical trust, you have
Speaker 1: to trust that the other persons an't going to stab
Speaker 1: you too, or the all. More importantly, you know, when
Speaker 1: we got Dean to come in, who who? We will
Speaker 1: talk about Dean later to a lot, but it was
Speaker 1: primarily a stunt rigger, which literally means he is holding
Speaker 1: the other side of the cable that is stopping you
Speaker 1: from hitting the ground. That's you know, that's a huge
Speaker 1: amount of trust. Our lives in his hands. And that's
Speaker 1: the big thing with stunts is you do just trust
Speaker 1: these people. Like there were countless scenes where you, Alberto,
Speaker 1: were upside down handcuffed, and if that line broke, I mean,
Speaker 1: thank god it didn't, but if it did, just your face,
Speaker 1: your faces breaking your ball would have been very different. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: But let's talk a little bit about the training and
Speaker 1: the stunts, because as you said, Alberto ne know, was
Speaker 1: one of the first people you met, and the three
Speaker 1: of us spent a lot of time in the gym together.
Speaker 1: That you know, the reason I know Archer is because
Speaker 1: of you two same though, because of our gym sessions
Speaker 1: and a bunch of like I read like something the
Speaker 1: other day that referenced this old Arnold Schwartzenegg Schwartzenegger movie
Speaker 1: called Red Heat, and I was like, we watched that
Speaker 1: a new truth one day while we were working out,
Speaker 1: like we used like we used to put on random stuff.
Speaker 1: He was such a great part of our process. I
Speaker 1: think I don't know if he knows how important he
Speaker 1: was for us. I mean I still work with him.
Speaker 1: He's still my trainer. Yeah, I mean whenever I can,
Speaker 1: I I do too. Like I'm he was, He's a
Speaker 1: lifelong relationship, and I'm glad that we could say like friends,
Speaker 1: you know, not just work. I seen you know, as
Speaker 1: a friend at this point, and it's nice again when
Speaker 1: you can put your trust in someone like that, because
Speaker 1: he is. It was fun for me as well, because
Speaker 1: I you know, I got to watch all of us.
Speaker 1: I hadn't really trained physically in that way. I had
Speaker 1: been a dancer in an athlete my whole life, but
Speaker 1: before Shadow Hunters, I had no idea that I could
Speaker 1: even have any modicum of physical strength, and not only
Speaker 1: seeing myself transformed, but watching each one of you reach
Speaker 1: your goals and become exactly what you had said at
Speaker 1: the big getting and because of you know it, but
Speaker 1: all in massively different ways. We need to talk about that.
Speaker 1: We need to get you back in season two and
Speaker 1: talk about that trans We need to talk about like Jack,
Speaker 1: we got time, we got time, we go we don't,
Speaker 1: but we will have to bring you back for each
Speaker 1: season because this is we have too much, because also
Speaker 1: the amount that we changed, not just the show, but
Speaker 1: like we we as people, we as actors, we as
Speaker 1: the characters, the the evolution that we evolution, evolution that
Speaker 1: we went through. I don't know that we went through
Speaker 1: as these people. Like the person I left as at
Speaker 1: the end of season three was vastly different than the
Speaker 1: person I joined as at the beginning of season one.
Speaker 1: I mean I even just got a flash Alberto. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you remember this. We did a bunch
Speaker 1: of reshoots at the end of season one, and we
Speaker 1: had to go back and wear our wardrobe in and
Speaker 1: we had trained so much. Alberto could barely even put
Speaker 1: on the shirt that he wore because his his biceps
Speaker 1: were too pig for the shirt he were an episode one,
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. That was a moment I didn't think
Speaker 1: whatever happened to me, So to be in something where
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, I can't I literally
Speaker 1: can't roll my shoulders forward or else I might that
Speaker 1: I'm not big now, So that was that's that's a
Speaker 1: new note right there, you know, really quick Episode three,
Speaker 1: that episode ended up becoming like a full circle episode
Speaker 1: for me in terms of where like me coming from
Speaker 1: college into this. I took a class my senior year
Speaker 1: in college where we had a lot of actors and
Speaker 1: people in the industry come in and kind of teach workshops.
Speaker 1: So they do a day and one of the people
Speaker 1: that came in was Mark mark Golis, who played Hector
Speaker 1: Salamanca and Breaking Bad. If you guys look him up,
Speaker 1: he's done a lot of things that we'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I absolutely know who that actor is. And he came
Speaker 1: in and the class was called directing for Actors, and
Speaker 1: one person asked him, They're like, so, what's what makes
Speaker 1: a good director? And he was like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: be honest with you, guys. I'm an actor. I've never directed,
Speaker 1: so I don't know why I'm here. But I've worked
Speaker 1: with a lot of directors. And one of my favorites
Speaker 1: that I've worked with a few times was this incredible
Speaker 1: director who would give me notes that I could actually
Speaker 1: do as an actor. And I think that's a big deal,
Speaker 1: and that's one thing if you are going to become
Speaker 1: a director, that you want to be able to do.
Speaker 1: So I was a scene where I was playing a
Speaker 1: doctor in like a courthouse and I was explaining to
Speaker 1: the jury, uh, the elements of the trial that they
Speaker 1: didn't understand, to try to support the prosecution. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, cool, and he's like and the scene just
Speaker 1: wasn't It didn't make sense and it was kind of
Speaker 1: boring and it was dragging and I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I just couldn't figure it out. So this director comes
Speaker 1: over to me and it's like, hey, why don't you
Speaker 1: want You're doing a lot of explaining. Why don't you
Speaker 1: teach them? So he's like, the minute he gave me
Speaker 1: that one note, teach them, I was able. The whole
Speaker 1: scene picked up and it it was It was a
Speaker 1: completely different It was amazing smoothly it went after that.
Speaker 1: And that's something that I've realized that good directors do.
Speaker 1: They give actionable things, things you can physically do, and
Speaker 1: and that translates to your acting world. So that was
Speaker 1: like one of the last workshops they took in college,
Speaker 1: like probably like November. Fast forward to episode three. I'm
Speaker 1: walking around Toronto with David on one of my days
Speaker 1: off when I see Mark Margolis walking down the street.
Speaker 1: So I ran up to him and I was like, hi,
Speaker 1: Mr Margolis. You probably don't remember me. My name is
Speaker 1: Alberto Rosende. I took a class at n y U
Speaker 1: that you taught like a couple of months ago. He's
Speaker 1: like a couple of months ago. I haven't talked a
Speaker 1: class at n y U and over a year and
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, Okay, so I was in that
Speaker 1: class over a year ago. Wow, I was in that
Speaker 1: class and you talked about working with a certain director
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was
Speaker 1: really great. Actually he's in Toronto right now. He's shooting
Speaker 1: some show about vampires. And I was like, Andy walk
Speaker 1: He was like, yes, that was the director for that
Speaker 1: class that I told that story. And I was like,
Speaker 1: he's directing the third episode of the show I'm on
Speaker 1: right now. He's our director. And he was like, wow, Andy,
Speaker 1: he's such a great director, Like you know, I was
Speaker 1: doing this show when and then he proceeds to tell
Speaker 1: the story again that I that I'd literally just told
Speaker 1: David because I was like, oh my god, that's that actor.
Speaker 1: Should I And I told David the story and I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna go say hi. So I go
Speaker 1: to him. He brings up this huge full circle thing.
Speaker 1: So the next day on set I talked to Andy
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Andy, I ran into Mark Mark Goolis.
Speaker 1: He's like, ah, Mark, great friend of mine. You know
Speaker 1: this one time he's a great actor. One time I
Speaker 1: was directing him and he told the story and I
Speaker 1: was like, Andy, I hope you know that. Like now
Speaker 1: they used that story at n y U. It's like,
Speaker 1: at least in my studio, that was. That was a
Speaker 1: big moment to like because it ties perfectly into the
Speaker 1: way we learned for acting. But that was also the
Speaker 1: first episode and only episode my parents visited set. Oh
Speaker 1: my dad did. He was able to as it set
Speaker 1: that episode. Also, the writer Marjorie David, she's like, I
Speaker 1: remember her and I really connected, And that was the
Speaker 1: first episode because of like the college connections and my
Speaker 1: comfort with the Andy who in that episode really let
Speaker 1: and play. He really let me do whatever I want
Speaker 1: and then was able to kind of like reel in
Speaker 1: my performance in a way that I now, having worked more,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I could have done that now, but
Speaker 1: without him back then, I don't think I could have
Speaker 1: done that because I didn't I didn't have you know,
Speaker 1: I had no idea what I was doing. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: didn't know how to make a TV show then, we
Speaker 1: didn't know what we were doing, what we were all learning.
Speaker 1: So it was just a cool and that after that,
Speaker 1: I felt like that's when I graduated. Like that episode
Speaker 1: is when I graduated college officially. So watching that episode,
Speaker 1: I was reminded of all of those moments and the
Speaker 1: really cool collaborative moments that happened on sets. Sometimes when
Speaker 1: you're making a show like shadow Hunters that has you know,
Speaker 1: it's a Disney show, so free forms involved, and it's
Speaker 1: also going to be on Netflix. So at that point
Speaker 1: we've already known that Netflix. We didn't know that, No,
Speaker 1: you didn't. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure we
Speaker 1: found that out. We found out like episode seven or eight.
Speaker 1: We found out pretty late because they I remember they
Speaker 1: were on set and we got prepped like, hey, be
Speaker 1: on your best behavior because Netflix is on set, and
Speaker 1: I was like okay. But what I didn't realize is
Speaker 1: they were talking about buying into the show and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh wow, okay, cool. So it was late,
Speaker 1: it was much later, And I remember because they were
Speaker 1: showing them a new set that I think was Jaide
Speaker 1: Wolf maybe or something. New that they built at the back,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, yeah, we didn't have this yet,
Speaker 1: so it was it was a later things. I feel
Speaker 1: like there's so much I want to talk to you
Speaker 1: about that goes on in the season, and I feel
Speaker 1: a little restricted by us staying with this one thing.
Speaker 1: So it's got a little off script I because the
Speaker 1: big episode I want to talk to you about is
Speaker 1: your transition episode. That's what I want to talk about,
Speaker 1: which is, yeah, this is your U, this is your
Speaker 1: episode in the season, like this one is really truly
Speaker 1: dedicated to you. It starts and ends with you when
Speaker 1: you talk us through a little of like that process
Speaker 1: because this was this was sort of the whole episode
Speaker 1: was kind of first for a lot of us, I think,
Speaker 1: and we've talked a lot too about the whole that
Speaker 1: we called the Peter Parker Simon Saga, where it's all
Speaker 1: the symptoms and everything happening and breaking the desk and
Speaker 1: the interventions and the you know, all of this process
Speaker 1: that Simon goes through. But episode eight, as dam said,
Speaker 1: is really the beginning and end of it, so that specifically,
Speaker 1: I think it's book two chapter. I love that you're
Speaker 1: a team. I'm pretty I'm pretty sure it's booked chapter fifteen.
Speaker 1: If if it's not fifteen, it's chapter eight. It's so weird.
Speaker 1: It's a weird way of linking these days, not like
Speaker 1: if it's not fifteen, it's sixteen. You're like, if it's not,
Speaker 1: it's right there behind your camera, isn't the other ones? Um?
Speaker 1: It was just funny because, like I remember going back
Speaker 1: to the book a lot to read, like, Okay, what
Speaker 1: what does she say? Physically happens? What does she What
Speaker 1: is Simon bring up in the book that he thinks about?
Speaker 1: And I remembered also this was one of the first
Speaker 1: times we were going to establish the way vampires changed.
Speaker 1: So if that ever happens again, which it did with
Speaker 1: Tessa and with everybody else who did that, and they
Speaker 1: all followed your sne exact and that was the cool
Speaker 1: thing was like in this point they were very they
Speaker 1: worked with me in the process. They're like, all right,
Speaker 1: so well, they kind of let me run in this episode.
Speaker 1: But then because of that later on in the show,
Speaker 1: they were like, hey, Alberta, will you explain to us
Speaker 1: what physically vampires do here? Or were you so that
Speaker 1: the extras at times when we had a bunch of
Speaker 1: vampire extras like how do vampires move and why? Like
Speaker 1: what can we tell them to kind of create that
Speaker 1: that five you got to design of vampires in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's also in a huge way. It speaks to
Speaker 1: kind of how the show ran. I can continually we
Speaker 1: try and explain this to people and it's I feel
Speaker 1: like it's such a unique experience because on a television show,
Speaker 1: a lot of those things, especially as an actor, especially
Speaker 1: as we were all relatively young, it's usually decided for
Speaker 1: you and you're told how it works and what to
Speaker 1: do and what the network of the studio, with the
Speaker 1: director wants. But on this show, and it all started
Speaker 1: with McGee and ed it very much. They trusted us
Speaker 1: to sort of have a little bit of our own
Speaker 1: creativity and have input, and they entrusted these characters to
Speaker 1: us very early on. And that's something that's so unique
Speaker 1: and I think why all of us are still seven
Speaker 1: eight years later, so passionate about this story. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was a cool one to be a part of.
Speaker 1: And that's something else, Like I know, Daniel Radcliffe at
Speaker 1: one point talked about when he was doing Harry Potter
Speaker 1: and the coolest thing was reading the parts that they
Speaker 1: haven't gotten to yet, knowing he's going to get to
Speaker 1: do them. Like he was like that was steely cart,
Speaker 1: bone chandelier, all this stuff, all of those Lakeland. Reading
Speaker 1: our books, I was like, wow, Like I don't know
Speaker 1: because we were changing things. I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what we're gonna do or how it's how the
Speaker 1: pieces are gonna fall, but it's going to be an
Speaker 1: exciting time. Uh. And and that that episode eight was
Speaker 1: the beginning of that journey for Simon. His he arguably
Speaker 1: of all characters, like definitely physically has a huge change,
Speaker 1: but emotionally he gets he has a giant change to
Speaker 1: the Only Daylight. I was like, this guy's journey is
Speaker 1: really but it's wide arc. It swings, So I wanted
Speaker 1: to with my at the time little experience. I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to really try to build an arc into
Speaker 1: this character. And that was the cool thing about our
Speaker 1: show is that that was actually kind of allowed to happen.
Speaker 1: Other shows, it's we don't know where the characters are
Speaker 1: going at all, at least for us. If you look
Speaker 1: at the books, there was some friends points and then
Speaker 1: we got we were told at least a little earlier.
Speaker 1: Sometimes like ye, it's going in this direction. So you
Speaker 1: could remember season one, I could play in the arc
Speaker 1: because I knew. I knew that what main story points
Speaker 1: were going to happen. I was like, I've become a
Speaker 1: vampire in like the middle of the season. Cool. So
Speaker 1: that's a physical change that I had to prepare for.
Speaker 1: And that's why we were in the gym because I
Speaker 1: was like, I do want that first moment that he
Speaker 1: comes out as a vampire, for him to look different,
Speaker 1: which I think actually did happen. Which did I have
Speaker 1: no idea what I was doing, which I think is
Speaker 1: I think actually they did that. They did it as
Speaker 1: they matched that as well, because they put you in
Speaker 1: a T shirt for one of the first times, like
Speaker 1: you've always been sort of in layers and whatever, and
Speaker 1: then for the first time we got to see this
Speaker 1: like like more muscular like form come out of this
Speaker 1: hole and you're like wow, um, oh, that's what we
Speaker 1: should talk about as well, talk about how we physically
Speaker 1: did that, because I thought I remember them setting up
Speaker 1: the rig and I was like, this is mine, but
Speaker 1: oh yeah, please talk us through the process. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know the end that last shot was a lot.
Speaker 1: But the rest of it, let's talk abou the rest
Speaker 1: of it. If something else, I'll say it was that
Speaker 1: was all like when I said we talked about like
Speaker 1: the scale of our show. I mean, that was one
Speaker 1: of the coolest things that we were all we were
Speaker 1: on wires and we were doing things that you don't
Speaker 1: get to do on on smaller projects. And this was
Speaker 1: literally So they shot this in two different ways. They
Speaker 1: shot the exteriors of the whole where they actually dug
Speaker 1: a hole, buried a box in a real graveyard, buried
Speaker 1: a box that you could crawl out of, covered the
Speaker 1: box with dirt and grass and made it look like
Speaker 1: there was nothing there. And then I actually had to
Speaker 1: like step into this hole and go underneath, and then
Speaker 1: they covered it with dirt and then I sat in
Speaker 1: this hole with with with the p A on the
Speaker 1: on the walkie who I got to get out of
Speaker 1: the hole. The whole time we shot this, there was
Speaker 1: this poor p A shoved in the hole, just waiting
Speaker 1: on the walk I did not know that there was
Speaker 1: another human being in there with you in the box,
Speaker 1: being like I was like, they just left you an
Speaker 1: actual walkie talk The whole time. Yeah, so and the
Speaker 1: box wasn't very big, right, So we're both like face
Speaker 1: to face and my hand is like this it can
Speaker 1: come out in the right spot right and do the
Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, someone just had lunch? Cool? Did
Speaker 1: I did? I? Did? I am? I? My breath bad?
Speaker 1: So we're sitting like literally it is close, and he's
Speaker 1: like action and then I'm like and then I had
Speaker 1: to crawl out of this little hole. And then we
Speaker 1: shot the next day because we did that that whole
Speaker 1: scene in two days, So we shot me coming out
Speaker 1: of the whole first and the next day we shot
Speaker 1: them putting me in the hole. Which were they dig
Speaker 1: They tugged like a real grave sized hole in a
Speaker 1: real cemetery and uh yeah they actually have to getting
Speaker 1: it at some point they actually buried you. Well, I'll
Speaker 1: say this, like that was really hard scene for me
Speaker 1: because we had been at that cemetery all night for
Speaker 1: two nights. Now, like we people don't know on season
Speaker 1: one of the show, because they're establishing how it looks,
Speaker 1: establishing how the characters talk. Might be a minute where
Speaker 1: they're like that scene, we don't like it, let's try
Speaker 1: to redo it all and so like we were shooting
Speaker 1: like sixteen hour days on season one, so he'd been
Speaker 1: all day at this one cemetery all night. I mean,
Speaker 1: then we did another night. You were were there the
Speaker 1: sun starting to come up and they're trying to rush
Speaker 1: this last shot, which is the scene where Jason starts
Speaker 1: to throw dirt on Simon to like bury him, and
Speaker 1: I remember they were like, I get in the whole,
Speaker 1: and I was like, no one told me I was
Speaker 1: going to have to get in in a in a
Speaker 1: cemetery hole like that. I don't even want to do
Speaker 1: that when I die. Remember our a D at the
Speaker 1: time was someone who did not handle stress well, which
Speaker 1: one of the main categories of like qualities you have
Speaker 1: to have to be in a D is that you
Speaker 1: handle stress well. And this guy was just not. That
Speaker 1: was not his cup of tea. So he's freaking out.
Speaker 1: He puts me in the hole. They asked like, what
Speaker 1: dirt are we gonna use? He's like, we'll use this
Speaker 1: dirt right here. And and this is what we talked about,
Speaker 1: like physical trust, emotional trust, all of this. That's when
Speaker 1: Steve Leek are a stunt coordinator for whatever else we
Speaker 1: had him, like he was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, You're
Speaker 1: gonna throw that dirt full of rocks and sticks. You're
Speaker 1: gonna use that dirt to throw onto your actor? Are
Speaker 1: you stupid? And he's like, well, we've got to get
Speaker 1: it done. He's like, we're gonna do it safely. If
Speaker 1: we're gonna get it done, we're gonna get some soft
Speaker 1: malt and we're gonna do this fucking right. Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? And I remember this a d
Speaker 1: being like and then I remember all of them and
Speaker 1: this is something else that like happens. I remember when
Speaker 1: they were like, hey, what do you guys think of
Speaker 1: this this second? Do you think they should? And then
Speaker 1: we were alway like, frankly, that guy doesn't handle stress, well,
Speaker 1: it's a high stress show. Well he just created a
Speaker 1: few times an unsafe environment and that's that's something that
Speaker 1: we just can't have on set. And I think that's
Speaker 1: that's where that happened. But for me, I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that one of my biggest fears was like being buried alive.
Speaker 1: So for me, that was when I discovered that fear.
Speaker 1: And then Dom and I actually had a really tender
Speaker 1: moment where I kind of like broke down in your trailer,
Speaker 1: remember that? And I was like, that just really freaked
Speaker 1: me out. Man. They actually had me in a hole,
Speaker 1: put dirt on me. And then the thing that also
Speaker 1: freaked me out. It was like I was looking at
Speaker 1: like the silhouette of the rest of the sky. The
Speaker 1: sun was coming up and there was like no one there.
Speaker 1: And in movies I always imagine that you'd see people
Speaker 1: like leaning over being like he was great, and I
Speaker 1: was just like alone in this hole, and I was
Speaker 1: like and then there was this guy being like, let's
Speaker 1: throw rocks on him. It was like the harrowing experience.
Speaker 1: I didn't know if you're gonna that's the thing. That's
Speaker 1: why I mentioned you know you can and cannot talk
Speaker 1: about it because it's a very intimate time that you
Speaker 1: went through that was very difficult. So first of all,
Speaker 1: thanks for sharing that with everyone. No, yeah, well, that's
Speaker 1: like the thing that I think people that don't do
Speaker 1: this job, don't you know that that happens. You're in
Speaker 1: this You have to be in this emotionally available space
Speaker 1: to work with these people and to to be an actor,
Speaker 1: and unfortunately, because of that, you take your own walls
Speaker 1: down that you carry when you go outside and you
Speaker 1: do things. People have walls that are healthy, yeah, but
Speaker 1: when you're an actor, you have to learn to be like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to take these walls and put them to
Speaker 1: the side for a bit so that anything that really
Speaker 1: is there can can shine through. So and that's something
Speaker 1: that happens on set. Everyone has to be sensitive to
Speaker 1: those in every facet, everyone working together to allow people
Speaker 1: to do things. So it was a cool lesson because
Speaker 1: now I'm like, I would absolutely speak up now, I
Speaker 1: would never just lay there and I would Also there's
Speaker 1: a lot of things I learned about how like, as
Speaker 1: an actor you actually can take on that responsibility and
Speaker 1: say no, no, my personal safeties might yes everyone like
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to like, And that was something that I
Speaker 1: think we all got to learn together. And I think
Speaker 1: I learned a lot from Tom and I learned a
Speaker 1: lot from Harry watching people navigate those moments and when
Speaker 1: you should be like no, no, no, no, that's not okay,
Speaker 1: and then well, and you'll end up doing it for
Speaker 1: other people as well. On a show like ours, you'll
Speaker 1: end up doing it whether like like or like I've
Speaker 1: had I remember Matt once approached me about something that
Speaker 1: that wasn't safe, and he was like, hey man, just
Speaker 1: so you know this is happening, and I was like,
Speaker 1: fuck me, okay, and we went and to care you know,
Speaker 1: you you look out for each other then at that
Speaker 1: point as well, and that, Yeah, that was a really
Speaker 1: nice moment for for both of us as our friendship.
Speaker 1: The fact that we you know, really knew that we
Speaker 1: could rely on each other from sort of that moment on.
Speaker 1: I mean we did, we knew that before, but that
Speaker 1: was like a real like, oh yeah, we're actually relying
Speaker 1: with each other moment. We all went through it there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were in so many of those situations where whether
Speaker 1: it was whether or the location or you know, the
Speaker 1: hern or otherwise, we were in these environments where we
Speaker 1: all had to look out for each other. And I,
Speaker 1: you know, being the youngest one on set and being
Speaker 1: like the little sister and I very quickly became I
Speaker 1: always knew that I had people looking out for me
Speaker 1: and that we all had each other's backs, and I
Speaker 1: was grateful for that throughout the entire process especially, and
Speaker 1: that extended, like I know, like Dama, there's a story
Speaker 1: I tell a lot. I don't know if you know this.
Speaker 1: I tell the story where people ask me have asked like,
Speaker 1: so when you're on set as an actor, like when
Speaker 1: do you step in? What what happens there? And I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: there's that rule. If you're cold, they're cold. If you're tired,
Speaker 1: they're more tired. If you're upset, they're probably not happy.
Speaker 1: So like, you really you really followed through that. I
Speaker 1: remember there are multiple times where we're sitting in a
Speaker 1: in a trailer or in a in a tent outside
Speaker 1: where we're sweating because they have three heaters, and you
Speaker 1: and I would have to step outside to like get
Speaker 1: a breath of air, to be like, God, it's so
Speaker 1: hot in there. And we saw a bunch of extras
Speaker 1: just shivering with no heaters, and Tom was like, hey,
Speaker 1: and you didn't tell anyone you did this. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you saw that anyone saw you do this.
Speaker 1: But immediately Dom was like, I'm gonna walk away, and
Speaker 1: he walked away. He pulled over in a d and
Speaker 1: was like, hey man, we've got three heaters in that
Speaker 1: tiny tent and it's killing us. They're freezing. Can you
Speaker 1: take two of them and give them to those extras
Speaker 1: and they were like, oh sure, And he was like,
Speaker 1: if you're cold, they're cold, just and and you were.
Speaker 1: You were very like one of the biggest things I
Speaker 1: learned about being an actor on set was from you
Speaker 1: don like you were always looking out for other people.
Speaker 1: You were all always in a position that you were like,
Speaker 1: I know if they're taking care of me or and
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling taken care of, like there are other
Speaker 1: people who are who don't have a voice here, and
Speaker 1: you really made an effort to say, like, my voice
Speaker 1: has I was gonna has power here, but we know
Speaker 1: we're acting, maybe not much, but my voice gets hurt,
Speaker 1: that gets listened to here in this position. So I'm
Speaker 1: going to make sure that when I use it it's
Speaker 1: for the people around me, and to make sure that
Speaker 1: that set environment stays positive, stays focused, and no one
Speaker 1: gets hurt, no one gets sick, no one like And
Speaker 1: that's the responsibility I think you have as an actor
Speaker 1: now being on sets seeing the people that I admire
Speaker 1: do that more. Really take that on as very sweet. Well,
Speaker 1: Albert has now said the thing I paid him to say,
Speaker 1: So we can stop the recording now and you want
Speaker 1: send Yeah, but you know, speaking of that's the love
Speaker 1: between the two of you. You know, we we had
Speaker 1: on off screen love between the two of you, but
Speaker 1: on screen there's a lot of the triangle between Jay's,
Speaker 1: Clary and Simon, particularly in season one, that goes through
Speaker 1: goes through a lot, and you know, between the friendship
Speaker 1: between Clary and Simon and they're almost being parabitized, paralleling
Speaker 1: Jace and Alex parabitize relationship, and then the triangle between
Speaker 1: the three of us. Let's talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 1: I know, you know, if we're if we're gonna bring
Speaker 1: you back for season two and do all of this,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about season two when we get because there's
Speaker 1: a lot more to talk about. Their keep finding ourselves
Speaker 1: getting caught doing that. It's like, oh, this thing happens, Like,
Speaker 1: oh do you remember when this happens. We can't talk
Speaker 1: about again. We're still wiping away through. You know, had
Speaker 1: the last episode this thing happened. But let's talk about
Speaker 1: season one because we talked about the vampire transformation, but
Speaker 1: let's talk about the triangle. Well, I think that was
Speaker 1: actually just like I've realized, it's a lot easier to
Speaker 1: build tension when you're friends with people yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 1: watching the show again, it was funny to be now
Speaker 1: when I knew you guys, then I knew you solely
Speaker 1: through this experience, and then especially episodes read the weeks
Speaker 1: we had to just get to know each other. Now
Speaker 1: it's been closed on the better side of like closer
Speaker 1: to a decade that I've known you guys. So now
Speaker 1: when I watched the show, it was fun to be like, oh, Manna,
Speaker 1: look at Matt being so sassy, so sassy. Yeah, literally
Speaker 1: just like just throw in shade everywhere, and I was like,
Speaker 1: that was really cool to see or seeing Harry on
Speaker 1: screen and just being like to like know you as
Speaker 1: a person now and then to see this character that
Speaker 1: you brought to life, it was just wild. So I
Speaker 1: think there was this natural also like let's just be real, baud,
Speaker 1: like none of us suck. Like we didn't have anyone
Speaker 1: on our set that sun, which is an important thing
Speaker 1: to point out on most sets, as I think with
Speaker 1: most jobs, there's normally at least one person who is
Speaker 1: horrendous it's really difficult, right, Like, there's normally a person
Speaker 1: who's just difficult to get on with um, and we
Speaker 1: really didn't have one, which was amazing, like really amazing.
Speaker 1: Our guest directors were great. The writers that would come
Speaker 1: in were pretty great, Like they were all like we
Speaker 1: we had a really Yeah, we had a really fun
Speaker 1: experience shooting that. Our crew is fantastic. Our guest stars
Speaker 1: were so good. I mean everybody from David to Jade
Speaker 1: to Nicola to everybody made our show. Yeah, shooting that
Speaker 1: was just fun. We were also helping to build like
Speaker 1: the language of the of this world, of the Shadow world,
Speaker 1: and how people were going to use it. Like the
Speaker 1: fact that that was episode three was the first time
Speaker 1: you guys said parapatie, right, and that was one of
Speaker 1: the first times y'all explained it, and for Clary and
Speaker 1: us to have that understanding and then were the audience
Speaker 1: saw the parallel where they're like, oh, like this to
Speaker 1: Jaysons Claris dessignment. Yeah, well cool for us to establish
Speaker 1: that mirrored there, But we got to talk about it.
Speaker 1: We got to be like, all right, cool, so how
Speaker 1: are we going to do this, How are we going
Speaker 1: to say that word? Yeah, yeah, that we did talk.
Speaker 1: We have spoken about that, and again I think it
Speaker 1: might end up in later episodes, but like that was
Speaker 1: a lot of season one is how do you pronounce
Speaker 1: parabatie because we've only seen it written like, we've only
Speaker 1: seen it written down, ever, so how do we pronounce it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Stell was another one god with so many conversations, but
Speaker 1: among those conversations were some of my favorite were the
Speaker 1: ones I had with you, Alberto, because we had so
Speaker 1: many scenes, especially in season one of Hey Clary, remember
Speaker 1: this time when we did X Y Z. And obviously
Speaker 1: you and I hadn't had this experience, as we didn't
Speaker 1: shoot those experiences, but you and I always sat down
Speaker 1: and we talked about it and we created this memory
Speaker 1: between the two of us that way when we did
Speaker 1: the scene, whether or not we used the same words,
Speaker 1: we had some kind of shared memory. And that's that
Speaker 1: was always so special. And I think going back that
Speaker 1: great a lot of who Clarion Simon were and our
Speaker 1: list of band names, like, yeah, we still have that list.
Speaker 1: I's on your phone somewhere. It's on that phone. I'll
Speaker 1: have to find it. Know, the band name list like
Speaker 1: a nameless all of season one would just be like
Speaker 1: someone would be like an extra specificality and to be
Speaker 1: like band name and we write it down as like
Speaker 1: another eventual band name for Simon No. But that was like,
Speaker 1: I think that's also something that now that we've all
Speaker 1: been on other shows and seeing other things, like it's
Speaker 1: a true beautiful experience to get to build a show,
Speaker 1: to get to establish things, to have to establish relationships. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: And I know that I have said since been on
Speaker 1: being on Shadow Hunters that they have spoken about like
Speaker 1: the relationship and whatever with with fans and interviews and whatever.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I haven't really found that yet. I
Speaker 1: haven't really found that again because it was so new,
Speaker 1: because it was such a great group of people, because
Speaker 1: we were trusted with so much, because of all of
Speaker 1: these wonderful things that we talked about that all came
Speaker 1: into one I haven't had that experience again. And it's
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I think I'll be It's probably something I'll
Speaker 1: search for for the rest of my life, but never
Speaker 1: quite fine because it will never be exactly the same again. Well,
Speaker 1: and like you said, Alberta, we were all the right age.
Speaker 1: We were all exactly in the right place at the
Speaker 1: right time. I mean, even the three of us living
Speaker 1: in the same building, you and I, Alberto being next
Speaker 1: door neighbors for season one neighbors. Yeah, on that elevator
Speaker 1: and the Okay, so much of my memory of season
Speaker 1: one is just three sitting on Dom's floor with the
Speaker 1: fire alarm going off. You and I haven't climbed down
Speaker 1: twelve flights, being like, I don't know what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: We're not and it was constant down. Yeah, like we're
Speaker 1: already sort of going to wait until I see flames
Speaker 1: before I'm making my way down. Can we repel? I
Speaker 1: don't know. Can we touch on this in this podcast? Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we were wild season one, y'all were I didn't drink
Speaker 1: Season one, we drank a lot of Season one, we
Speaker 1: was not. But also like we just we're kind of
Speaker 1: like I think, like you we're talking about us being
Speaker 1: the right age and whatnot. We were also in this amazing,
Speaker 1: cool city and we just like we've really made that
Speaker 1: a super fun experience for us. And I know we
Speaker 1: had that reputation. We did. We did we were a
Speaker 1: fun show because we we would like we would go
Speaker 1: to bars, saddle raunches, the one that keeps coming up
Speaker 1: and horse, that's what I mean, rocking horse. Right, I'm
Speaker 1: sure I'm still not allowed in Rocking Horse because of
Speaker 1: the cloakroom incident. Remember that. Um, No, I didn't do
Speaker 1: anything bad. No, don just had a clumsy cat moment
Speaker 1: and they weren't. They were kind of grumby at it.
Speaker 1: And that's all that happened. I wouldn't even call it clumsy.
Speaker 1: I think it was a drunken I was like, I
Speaker 1: could jump through that for sure, and just miscalculated massively.
Speaker 1: And you gotta calculate, man, you gotta calculate. Also, like
Speaker 1: we're removed from the Thompson, right, we were now Thompson.
Speaker 1: My god, I will never forget this because we were
Speaker 1: sitting on the roof of this very fancy hotel club
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting by the pool having a drink with
Speaker 1: Domin Alberta and another one of our friends and Alberto
Speaker 1: and I can't remember which one whose idea was it
Speaker 1: was it? Yours think it was. You could either of you.
Speaker 1: I could have been either of us. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Do you think I would? You're probably right, But we
Speaker 1: were as mischievous as each other, I think. Anyway. The
Speaker 1: idea was the influences on each other, I'll tell you them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had a lot of fun, for sure, but they
Speaker 1: jumped in the pool and we promptly were escorted from
Speaker 1: the premise. Closed. We were fully closed. So just imagine this.
Speaker 1: It's me Domin Kats squished between these giant security guards,
Speaker 1: dripping like you, audibly dripping. You could hear the drips
Speaker 1: like like in the elevators, ladies and gentlemen, and it's
Speaker 1: it's just frozen. And I remember looking at the security
Speaker 1: guard and he looks down. He's like, and I'm like, literally,
Speaker 1: we're looking at security guards like kids were like that
Speaker 1: very huge. Come on, it's kind of funny. You guys
Speaker 1: can't come back here for a while. I mean, between
Speaker 1: that and the pranks that you two pulled on each
Speaker 1: other Season one, like dumb, you always pulled pranks on me,
Speaker 1: but the two of you were like our prank all
Speaker 1: stars to each other the entire series. Yeah, I stopped.
Speaker 1: I stopped pranking. I stopped pranking. Don't your kid prank.
Speaker 1: We've got to get on set with each other again.
Speaker 1: I think it might be a you because I haven't either.
Speaker 1: It's I think it might be a you and me
Speaker 1: thing like Arden's Ardens one like you Cat. Arden's the
Speaker 1: lead of Partner Tracks she's very, very jumpy, but but
Speaker 1: made it known at the beginning of the show to everyone,
Speaker 1: but I think specifically to me that she doesn't react
Speaker 1: like Cat. She doesn't scream and think it's funny. She
Speaker 1: screams and then cries, and I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's I don't know if that's the
Speaker 1: reaction I wanted. That's not gonna be fun. So I
Speaker 1: my pranking, my prank sinking boots have been hung up. Also,
Speaker 1: I just I have a thing where I'm like, I know,
Speaker 1: if you start that, it takes a bigger person to
Speaker 1: finish it, and I'm not that big of a person.
Speaker 1: It's done, and I'm like, I'm just not going to
Speaker 1: start that road, like very mad. The worst ones that
Speaker 1: I did to you, and I do feel badly about
Speaker 1: these ones, was that was the trash can in your trailer,
Speaker 1: shad trash can in your trailer, trash can in your trailer.
Speaker 1: It was it was a hot summer's day up in Toronto.
Speaker 1: It was a warm day. There was a trash can
Speaker 1: full of banana peals and all of this gross stuff
Speaker 1: that's been right outside of his trailer was very full,
Speaker 1: and I thought it would be really funny. At the
Speaker 1: end of lunch, I was going to throw it into
Speaker 1: his trailer, not into upside down obviously, just leave the
Speaker 1: physical trash can in there and then leave it and
Speaker 1: he has to come in and be like, oh, why
Speaker 1: is there a trash can of my trailer? This is annoying,
Speaker 1: smells kind of bad, and then gets rid of it.
Speaker 1: And that's it. What actually happened was at lunch you
Speaker 1: didn't get an opportunity to go back to your trailer.
Speaker 1: You got brought straight to set for like six hours,
Speaker 1: So that stinking hot ass trash can was just like
Speaker 1: diffusing into your trailer for six hours, and at which
Speaker 1: point I had forgotten about it. I was at home
Speaker 1: and I get this text from him like come on man,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh no, I'm sorry, I remember that.
Speaker 1: And I also like, we just that happened a lot
Speaker 1: that We're like, we would start a prank, but because
Speaker 1: we get so busy, it'd be like, ah, I forgot
Speaker 1: to forgot to see that one through. That was That's
Speaker 1: what happened with the head shots. Do you remember their
Speaker 1: head shots? I printed out like a d eighty of
Speaker 1: my head shot and just put them all over our busts.
Speaker 1: Its like everywhere you could possibly imagine. I put them
Speaker 1: inside it's costume. I put them under the toilet, see,
Speaker 1: I put them inside of drawers and whatever. And he
Speaker 1: found like probably I want to say, like eighty Yeah,
Speaker 1: you found like eight two hundred of them. And then
Speaker 1: we this must have been at the end of season
Speaker 1: three because we were told that those Oh no, it
Speaker 1: was the end of season two. And then we got
Speaker 1: new trailers for season three because they went they told us,
Speaker 1: they were like, we're actually not using these trailers anymore.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh no, so these are going
Speaker 1: to be sent somebody else. And there's like these little
Speaker 1: hidden shots of this trailer. It wasn't just your head shot.
Speaker 1: What wasn't one of them like a bumb shot? Oh possibly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like oh my gosh's open like a random drawer and
Speaker 1: just get a picture of my ass, of my ass. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if you were the person, I am so so sorry,
Speaker 1: You're welcome. Yeah could have made someone say just a
Speaker 1: little Sherwood bum, you know you could maybe they did, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: unquantifiable in my butt. But since then I have to say, like,
Speaker 1: you know, doing this show with you guys, especially season one.
Speaker 1: The press tour that we did was massive, and all
Speaker 1: of that was it was the first time that any
Speaker 1: of us had kind of been I mean dom you
Speaker 1: might have for Vampire Academy been through a bit of that,
Speaker 1: but I know I hadn't done a pressed We are
Speaker 1: like that at all, and even I mean going to
Speaker 1: Brazil with the two of you and doing all of
Speaker 1: the New York Comic Con for the first time, Alberto,
Speaker 1: you and I, You and I wrapped. We were the
Speaker 1: last scene of season one to shoot. We wrapped and
Speaker 1: they put us in the car. We went straight to
Speaker 1: the airport and met all of you at the private
Speaker 1: plane that we were flying from Toronto to New York
Speaker 1: to go to New York Comic Con the next morning.
Speaker 1: And just all of these experiences that we got to
Speaker 1: share with each other. It's I think back on it,
Speaker 1: I'm like, did that actually happen? Or did I dream this?
Speaker 1: I still can't tell. What about We've we've spoken about this,
Speaker 1: Cat and I a couple of times. Alberto, what was
Speaker 1: your reaction to do you remember we got to see
Speaker 1: the In fact, I have two questions because because our
Speaker 1: first panel at Comic Con, you and I had a
Speaker 1: funny moment, was hilarious. But do you what do you remember?
Speaker 1: Do you remember your reaction? So we were sat behind
Speaker 1: the screen and we could hear with there was fift
Speaker 1: hundred people to two thousand people sat in the audience
Speaker 1: and we were sitting behind the screen, so it was
Speaker 1: all in reverse the project screen and they played the
Speaker 1: first like seven minutes of the show. Seven minutes of
Speaker 1: the show. What was your reaction to that? It was
Speaker 1: just weird to see it real for me, it being
Speaker 1: my first real job. It also being like a a
Speaker 1: storybook type opportunity where you not only get a job
Speaker 1: as a series regular on a pilot, this show was
Speaker 1: already picked up to series and had a built in
Speaker 1: fandom and it was like already like it was there
Speaker 1: was a lot of boxes checked that are very rarely
Speaker 1: checked for one job. So it was just a little
Speaker 1: it was overwhelming. It was like this is this is
Speaker 1: real as actors are like this, what does this mean
Speaker 1: for our career? Like this is the type of thing
Speaker 1: that could like be a little springboard, like we we
Speaker 1: all start making something that was really fun. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I still understand that moment, because I haven't
Speaker 1: really been to Comic Con since the last time. We
Speaker 1: all went, Yeah, well and so too a lot of
Speaker 1: like our first signing, they revealed dressed as Simon. The
Speaker 1: first person I saw in cosplay was a Simon cosplay
Speaker 1: at the Comic On the first time. And then the
Speaker 1: Claries and then the Jass came through. But it's so
Speaker 1: weird to see because we'd all been on set for
Speaker 1: six months making this show and then suddenly there's people
Speaker 1: with no one had seen any of it. That was yeah,
Speaker 1: no one had seen any and no one had seen
Speaker 1: any of it, and they had accurate costumes. They were
Speaker 1: quoting like lines from the book, some of them that
Speaker 1: might have made it into the show, and You're like, whoa, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just said that last that. I remember them being like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I love you, and I'm like, how anything? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like just wait, I got a surprise for you. Decided
Speaker 1: to do the entire show in an Irish drawl for
Speaker 1: no reason. The same number two tell us about your
Speaker 1: first panel at Comic On. It's arguably my favorite story
Speaker 1: with you. Oh my gosh. I remember just having all
Speaker 1: these moments where I was like, I have no idea
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. Then everyone else seems to be like Instep,
Speaker 1: but I felt like I was always like I felt
Speaker 1: like Mr. Bean. I was always like one step behind,
Speaker 1: like trying to like throw myself together. And then magically
Speaker 1: it happening when they were like and we're doing the interview,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I made it. I'm not sweaty. So
Speaker 1: we get to this panel and then we hear it
Speaker 1: before we see the amount of people, right, we could
Speaker 1: hear it. We have that moment where we see our
Speaker 1: first seven minutes, and then like they introduced McGee, who
Speaker 1: done Charlie's Angels, who've done Terminator, who've done movies that
Speaker 1: we've all seen, and then ed who done like there's
Speaker 1: something about Mary and other movies that we'd all seen.
Speaker 1: And then I'm on this list. And I was really
Speaker 1: nervous and it was my first panel, like my first
Speaker 1: real big interview. Now I might have to be myself.
Speaker 1: And I got struck with like a case of I
Speaker 1: have to go to the bathroom, like really bad. And
Speaker 1: because I was nervous, I've been chugging water that whole day,
Speaker 1: like bottles. I had like five bottles of water and
Speaker 1: that was only like eleven so and we'd woken up
Speaker 1: like it was a very short amount of time for
Speaker 1: a lot of water with nerves, and I remember us
Speaker 1: sitting down and I see like everyone and I'm kind
Speaker 1: of taking it all in. And I looked down and
Speaker 1: there's that little clock that says how much time is
Speaker 1: left in the panel, and I see it says over
Speaker 1: an hour, and I'm like uh. And then there's like
Speaker 1: a hot microphone and like dumb h I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: to the bathroom and he's like you're on stage and
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, but like I just started, Like they're
Speaker 1: not gonna talk to me, like we just started. And
Speaker 1: he's like, you can't leave, you have to stay. So
Speaker 1: I'm like all right. So then like you start ten
Speaker 1: minutes in, I'm like talking twenty minutes in, thirty minutes in,
Speaker 1: I'm like in an hour and I'm like pale, and
Speaker 1: I'm just I've never been in so much pain in
Speaker 1: my life. Please don't call me. If I open that,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay. And then they're like a right, we're done.
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, oh, thank god. So I get
Speaker 1: up to take a picture and then Mick Cheese like
Speaker 1: let's take a picture for everyone, and I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my god. So I'm stating with everyone just like constantly,
Speaker 1: like shifting because like I am so uncomfortable. And then
Speaker 1: we take our picture. They're like, great, now we're going
Speaker 1: to walk to us next room, and I just like
Speaker 1: a bullet was like Looney Tunes. There was a little
Speaker 1: outline of Alberts left well. And what's so great about
Speaker 1: all of these things too? Is it? Like that was
Speaker 1: Damien Holbrook, who was one of the reporters that worked
Speaker 1: with us for so many years. Like him and Jim
Speaker 1: Halterman and so many other people. We went through all
Speaker 1: these experiences with the same folks. Yeah, and crazy they
Speaker 1: got it must be I would love to ask them
Speaker 1: about that, Like they saw us as a cast the
Speaker 1: first time, and they saw us grow as people, actors,
Speaker 1: as the casts friends, like it must be a cool
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's And now I'm gonna look for
Speaker 1: that when I see a new show and there's a
Speaker 1: group of casts, and like, I'm gonna watch and kind
Speaker 1: of see how they evolve as a friendship. Let's always
Speaker 1: a come for two. Like now you know we've all
Speaker 1: worked on TV since doing press. You talked to a
Speaker 1: lot of the same reporters, and it's just it's it's
Speaker 1: a nice thing to have a relationship. Even on that side.
Speaker 1: The shadow Hunters fandom has been so instrumental in all
Speaker 1: of our experience throughout this and we belovedly call them
Speaker 1: the shadow fan We've been all over the world doing
Speaker 1: comic cons, Alberta. Do you have a favorite or or
Speaker 1: a notable experience, a fan experience from either from season
Speaker 1: one or at any point that you want to you
Speaker 1: want to touch on in this one. I've had a
Speaker 1: couple of experiences. One I don't remember the gentleman's name,
Speaker 1: but it was one of our first things where we
Speaker 1: were signing and he him up with his son and
Speaker 1: he was like, hey, we're both Jewish, and one of
Speaker 1: the ways we've bonded his father's son is through our Judaism,
Speaker 1: but also through watching Shadow Hunters and seeing the first
Speaker 1: and only Jewish vampire I've never seen. So we were
Speaker 1: able to like bond through that talking about it, and
Speaker 1: you know, he's like, so it was that I want
Speaker 1: to thank you for your portrayal because it was really
Speaker 1: it was a really beautiful thing. My son and I have.
Speaker 1: We get to share the show together and see ourselves represented,
Speaker 1: And I was like that was that? Wasn't I remember
Speaker 1: that one? I was like that was a good experience. Similarly,
Speaker 1: I remember I got a note from a fan in
Speaker 1: Argentina that was like really inspired by seeing two Latinos
Speaker 1: on screen like camarader myself and and and being like
Speaker 1: it was just cool because I'm like, I'm Argentinian. Am
Speaker 1: I ever going to be able to be in like
Speaker 1: American Hollywood? So seeing people that look like me and
Speaker 1: come from a culture like me, that's really inspiring. So
Speaker 1: those are two. And another thing is my book club.
Speaker 1: Like I get the opportunity to hang out with like
Speaker 1: eight two hundred of them weekly and we read cool
Speaker 1: books and like now that I don't they're not just fans,
Speaker 1: they're like members of our book clubs, so like I
Speaker 1: know them and when I see them at conventions, it's
Speaker 1: not like, oh hi, no, it's like, oh my gosh. Hey.
Speaker 1: By the way, you mentioned on the book Club that
Speaker 1: you had that exam, how did that go? Or you
Speaker 1: mentioned on the book Club that you were having a
Speaker 1: hard time have you been? And like the fandom, the
Speaker 1: community we've seen of fans, the shadow fan, I get
Speaker 1: to see in like a more like under microscope with
Speaker 1: the Risendi Reads group, and it I guess it speaks
Speaker 1: to our show. It speaks to them, it speaks to
Speaker 1: like the community that our show inspires, like. They're all smart,
Speaker 1: interesting people that are curious about the world and and
Speaker 1: want to make it better. Um. So that whole book
Speaker 1: Club experience has been awesome because I I growing up,
Speaker 1: I I don't think there was ever an opportunity where
Speaker 1: we could kind of hang out with an actor on
Speaker 1: a show that we like and then I have a
Speaker 1: feel that we have like a valid opinion on a
Speaker 1: subject to them, Like with with the book Club. A
Speaker 1: lot of these fans are way smarter than I'll ever beat.
Speaker 1: So it's been a really cool experience to be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know me from this thing that you were really
Speaker 1: excited about, but now we're in this whole other place
Speaker 1: where we're kind of all, uh, there isn't that level
Speaker 1: playing field. That's what I'm trying to say exactly. It's
Speaker 1: just it just feels like a really cool and that's
Speaker 1: really beautiful and I'm gonna I'm gonna compliment you on
Speaker 1: this because you know, Dom and I obviously spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time with you, and we we got to
Speaker 1: kind of hear your thought proceeds on a lot of things,
Speaker 1: and I remember you got to a place where you
Speaker 1: brought up to me a day You're like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go back and reread all the books I write in
Speaker 1: high school because I'm I'm an adult now and it's
Speaker 1: been a lot of years, and I want to I
Speaker 1: want to go back and see how my perspective has changed.
Speaker 1: And then the fact that you had enough forethought to
Speaker 1: decide not only to do that for yourself, but to
Speaker 1: share that and to try and spread your love of
Speaker 1: books and of nurture and of opening yourself up to
Speaker 1: new ways of thinking and new perspectives on the world
Speaker 1: is just such a beautiful thing and it so speaks
Speaker 1: to who you are, and not only as an actor,
Speaker 1: but as an artist and a person. And I just
Speaker 1: I think the world of view. But but that's one
Speaker 1: of my favorite things that I got to sort of
Speaker 1: bear witness too on the sidelines of our journey together.
Speaker 1: I think you're all right, thanks. I just think like
Speaker 1: I think we we all for the most part, I
Speaker 1: think we all recognize the opportunity we have. And I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just I felt that that was one
Speaker 1: way I felt that I'd be like, Okay, if I
Speaker 1: get this done, then maybe I'll feel that's the word
Speaker 1: I'm looking for, like not good enough, but I'll feel
Speaker 1: like I earned this responsibility inside, right, Like you have
Speaker 1: to push it back. Girls, the gifts that we like
Speaker 1: the fact that we have fans in Paris that are
Speaker 1: so awesome that they continue to get us back to Paris,
Speaker 1: that's an opportunity that I'm like, didn't think that would.
Speaker 1: I never thought that I'd be able to say, well,
Speaker 1: for the last four years I've summoned in Paris, Seriously, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was like four years in a row.
Speaker 1: At one point. The only thing that stopped that was
Speaker 1: was COVID. Yeah, and we're coming back. So like we've been,
Speaker 1: we've been in a position where we've been, We've been
Speaker 1: given a lot, and I know that also based on
Speaker 1: the generosity of the fans, I'm like, they're right, when
Speaker 1: you get something, you have to give it back. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: That actually seems like a perfect place to sort of
Speaker 1: round this out. One more thing though, Alberto, Let's give
Speaker 1: you the opportunity to talk about and promote what you're
Speaker 1: doing now, if there's anything you're excited about, and is
Speaker 1: there anything you want people to tune into and watch
Speaker 1: or listen to be a part of. Well, a really
Speaker 1: good friend of mine, how's the show coming out called
Speaker 1: Partner Track. I know we're all going to be watching
Speaker 1: it when it comes out. I know they finished shooting recently,
Speaker 1: so we should find out those dates students. Another friend
Speaker 1: of mine a pilot, so I know that I know
Speaker 1: that when that, when that happens, I'm very excited to
Speaker 1: tune into that and check it out. To tune well,
Speaker 1: since that the theme we're taking, then be sure to
Speaker 1: make sure, be sure to make sure, be sure to
Speaker 1: make sure, double sure, double to check out Alberto in
Speaker 1: Chicago Fire. He is astounding and watching one of my
Speaker 1: best friends be a fireman every day is incredible and
Speaker 1: I get to I get to continue learning from you
Speaker 1: by watching you in this other thing, which is amazing.
Speaker 1: So make sure you check out Chicago Fire when and
Speaker 1: wear Alberto Wednesdays eight seven Central wed nes Days eight
Speaker 1: seven Central Chicago, Chicago into Chicago. In Chicago, I would
Speaker 1: love that I would up in Kansas City. Chicago is
Speaker 1: my favorite city in the US. To eat in. We've
Speaker 1: got a couple cast. We have one cast member from
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Yeah, and he's he's like I'm from He's
Speaker 1: really great as he's Randy. Yeah, so you guys can
Speaker 1: hit it, you guys, Randy from Kansas and Randy sounds
Speaker 1: like a fun show. Watch that Randy. There you go,
Speaker 1: And honestly I would watch him and that he's great.
Speaker 1: They are lucky to have you, and we know what
Speaker 1: a gift you are to a cast and to an ensemble. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know we're not always nice, No, we are,
Speaker 1: but well I think you guys also know that we
Speaker 1: just well we've all been through a lot of honestly,
Speaker 1: both personally, professionally as characters and as people. The three
Speaker 1: of us have been through so much together over the
Speaker 1: last seven years. And you know, we've seen each other
Speaker 1: at our best and our worst, and we've been through
Speaker 1: all of the ups and downs. And I just have
Speaker 1: to thank you both for being so stellar throughout that
Speaker 1: whole process. Oh my god, it was. It was a
Speaker 1: once in a lifetime type experience. I don't know if
Speaker 1: when that will happen. Remember, Harry and we touched on this,
Speaker 1: like Harry and Isaiah saying like this, whatever this is,
Speaker 1: it's extremely special and it happens very rarely, so like
Speaker 1: that experience was awesome, and yeah, I don't know where
Speaker 1: we'd be without it. So thank you, and thank you
Speaker 1: Alberto for for being our guest. Thank you for coming
Speaker 1: on and talking to us. And it's funny, isn't it,
Speaker 1: Because sometimes you get I guess, get guests on that
Speaker 1: you don't see regularly. But like I saw you a
Speaker 1: week ago. We've been talking about it is a week ago,
Speaker 1: so it's that's what I was going to say, so
Speaker 1: you take it well. I just wanted to say because
Speaker 1: I haven't actually seen you since I saw the news,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to say a huge congratulations to you
Speaker 1: and Tessa. I mean both Tom and I haven't gotten
Speaker 1: to watch your relationship from the beginning. It's it's been
Speaker 1: just a joy and you two are just the greatest
Speaker 1: and I'm I couldn't be happier for you now. I
Speaker 1: really do feel super lucky. And that whole day, like
Speaker 1: the fact that she proposed to me as well, is
Speaker 1: this story? Does anyone know this story? I don't think
Speaker 1: I told it in like an interview setting, but I
Speaker 1: want to Yeah, all the record, if you want, you
Speaker 1: can tell the no, no, let's I don't mind. This
Speaker 1: story is like, it's one of the best ones in
Speaker 1: my life. So yeah, that's the story. Yeah. Well, so
Speaker 1: my best friend from high school lives in l A now.
Speaker 1: His name is Josh and we were talking and I
Speaker 1: had I know, I had mentioned to Dom that I
Speaker 1: was going to do this. I was going to propose,
Speaker 1: and Josh I had mentioned it to him and he
Speaker 1: was like, so, what do you want to do? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know. I know that with Tessa,
Speaker 1: like anywhere will be special. I could do it in
Speaker 1: the bathroom one morning and it would be just as
Speaker 1: special as if I had rented the top of a
Speaker 1: mountain or something whatever, that grand gesture could be like. So,
Speaker 1: I don't think none of that really matters. Like I
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like for a long time I
Speaker 1: built up those really special moments to need to be
Speaker 1: built to be special. But when you finally get there,
Speaker 1: you're like, they're going to be special no matter what. Wow,
Speaker 1: So you it takes a lot of pressure off in
Speaker 1: no wise. So I was like, how are we going
Speaker 1: to do this? So we devised this plan. So I
Speaker 1: had to get a root canal that morning, which was crazy.
Speaker 1: So I out of root Canal. On the way back
Speaker 1: from the dentist, I call him and we set this plan.
Speaker 1: I get home, Tessa and I start playing Fortnite. Josh
Speaker 1: joins us on Fortnite, so we start playing and very
Speaker 1: casually he's like, hey, um, what are you guys doing today? Like, nothing,
Speaker 1: just doing this. He's like, do you guys want to
Speaker 1: get lunch with me in Santa Monica. I had a
Speaker 1: friend here but she had to go out of town.
Speaker 1: So I made this resulo I don't want to lose it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, that sounds like a great idea,
Speaker 1: and weird Tessa has always wanted to eat there. We
Speaker 1: should go and and and he's like, and it's not
Speaker 1: a weird time, I'm sorry. And then this is how
Speaker 1: you know, like Tessa knows me super well because immediately
Speaker 1: she's like, we're gonna go to Santa Monica. She's like,
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to Santa Monica around sunset to this
Speaker 1: restaurant I've always wanted to eat at with Alberto's best
Speaker 1: friend from high school. So she starts like okay, cool,
Speaker 1: She starts getting ready, and then later on she's like,
Speaker 1: you were acting nervous the whole day, like you were
Speaker 1: being so out of character, Like instead of what she
Speaker 1: getting ready upstairs, I generally can watch TV or something downstairs.
Speaker 1: For some reason, I was nervous. I stayed with her
Speaker 1: the whole time. She's like, you sat with me while
Speaker 1: I did my makeup. You never do that. So I
Speaker 1: was like, that's a red that's a not a red flag,
Speaker 1: but that's a little like what's he doing? Why is
Speaker 1: it being weird? Was being nervous? And then I I
Speaker 1: always had to stand on the right side of me
Speaker 1: because the ring boxes in my left pocket and I
Speaker 1: didn't want her to like bump it. So I literally
Speaker 1: like you can imagine me Charlie chaplining like my way
Speaker 1: to always be on the left side of her. Oh,
Speaker 1: and then we get in the uber and I like,
Speaker 1: instead of like opening the door and letting her in,
Speaker 1: I like opened the door and like sprinted into the
Speaker 1: uber so that I could be a blessed life. Fun first,
Speaker 1: So so we get to this restaurant. It's going well.
Speaker 1: We ordered drinks, we order some food. Then I noticed
Speaker 1: the sun starts to set and it's at that time,
Speaker 1: you know, it's the winter, so I'm like to set.
Speaker 1: The setting doesn't happen very long, so I'm like, oh boy,
Speaker 1: and then they order another round of drinks and I'm
Speaker 1: like all right. So we're waiting for these drinks to
Speaker 1: land and waiting and waiting, and my buddies like, we
Speaker 1: gotta go. We're gonna miss the sunset, and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: we should, uh, we should go see the sunset. Now,
Speaker 1: this restaurant is on the beach, and we were sitting
Speaker 1: in a patio with an unobstructive view to the beach,
Speaker 1: so we could perfectly see the sunset. There was no
Speaker 1: reason for us to leave the restaurant. But I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do this in a restaurant.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make it like a public thing. So
Speaker 1: so it's like we gotta go. And then as I
Speaker 1: say that, the drinks land and these are like cocktails,
Speaker 1: like well made cocktails. It's not like a beer. But
Speaker 1: my buddy Josh was like, yeah, that's a great idea.
Speaker 1: Let's let's chug these. And Tested was like what, So
Speaker 1: he's like cheers, and they both like chug their drinks
Speaker 1: and I'm like, all right, good. So we start walking
Speaker 1: to the beach. I'm getting nervous. We find the spot
Speaker 1: that I'm like, that's the spot. It overlooks the water
Speaker 1: and whatever. And as we get in the spot, I'm
Speaker 1: about to like, I put my hand in my pocket,
Speaker 1: and then this couple like walks right in our shop.
Speaker 1: Josh starts filming and I'm like, Malibu, whoa and tested
Speaker 1: like yeah, that's that's that's Malibu. And I'm like and
Speaker 1: look at the sun and she's like it's sunny right yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, get this couple out of here. So
Speaker 1: they finally leaved and I'm like thank god. And then
Speaker 1: now there's like that weird, awkward silence. It felt like
Speaker 1: a middle school dance when you walk up to the
Speaker 1: person you really like and you're like hey, hey, and
Speaker 1: they're like I love this song. They're like yeah, you're dancing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we should dance together, you know, to this song if
Speaker 1: you want. That's how it felt. It felt very like,
Speaker 1: oh god, I'm in high school again. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: fluttery and sweaty, and so it's like, screw it. I
Speaker 1: kneeled down I proposed Tessa kneel down with me, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god. And then my buddy
Speaker 1: Josh is like, stand up, no, no, stand up. So
Speaker 1: she like looks over and then stands up, and then
Speaker 1: I do the thing. And then she's like, can I
Speaker 1: ask you a question? And I'm sitting there on camera
Speaker 1: with the ring out and I'm like, well, I think
Speaker 1: you should say yes, just that's important, and she's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, yes, So she does it. I put
Speaker 1: the ring on her finger and she stands me up.
Speaker 1: She kneels down, and then out of her purse she
Speaker 1: pulls out a ringbox. So she proposes to me, and
Speaker 1: I'm like shocked. I've been in my head this whole
Speaker 1: time that it didn't even occur to me. I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: how did she know that I was proposing? How did
Speaker 1: you know to do this now? But so we did that,
Speaker 1: and then she was like I just knew you were
Speaker 1: being weird. And this is actually the first day that
Speaker 1: I have the ring. So I figured we're going to
Speaker 1: Santa Monica around sunset. I'll just bring it just in
Speaker 1: case because I want us to share this moment. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a storybook. You know. After that, we went
Speaker 1: and drank bottles of champagne and called friends and family
Speaker 1: and it was it was lovely. It was a really
Speaker 1: cool experience. And I love that she made that effort
Speaker 1: to make me a part of being engaged, not just
Speaker 1: like I got to feel their lovely. What a wonderful story.
Speaker 1: It was great, and then I was the next day
Speaker 1: was really rough for me. Yeah, I'm sure we celebrated.
Speaker 1: And then Test and I both come from big families, right,
Speaker 1: so we had to do the thing where we called
Speaker 1: every person and told the story. And we got really
Speaker 1: good at telling it together, like you know, the back
Speaker 1: and forth, and she picked up certain parts. But there
Speaker 1: are multiple times where I'd be like, yeah, and Tests
Speaker 1: you do that part? Yeah, I would. I wouldn't change
Speaker 1: it for the world, though, And I love that you
Speaker 1: guys got to see that whole relationship from like it's
Speaker 1: the first day where I was like, yo, that girl
Speaker 1: on set Test she was awesome, right, and then now
Speaker 1: she's going to be my wife. Shadow Hunters brought so
Speaker 1: many wonderful things into our lives each other, this beautiful
Speaker 1: relationship and so many memories and so many stories, the
Speaker 1: friendships we we that that show brought us like that
Speaker 1: was the biggest gift yea in my life. I don't
Speaker 1: know why I have to say it like that. It
Speaker 1: rolls off the tongue now, I think on that note,
Speaker 1: we couldn't end on a more beautiful story. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna say goodbye, and as always for everyone who's listening,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being a part of this um.
Speaker 1: Thank you to Alberto for being our guest. I don't
Speaker 1: know why I just gestured like I feel like you're
Speaker 1: right here in the room. Yeah, I feel like you
Speaker 1: are hearts in the room with us. But thank you
Speaker 1: so much Alberto for for coming with us and return
Speaker 1: to the Shadows, and for being the one and only.
Speaker 1: Simon Lewis your Lordship Day letter. I should get business cards.
Speaker 1: You should. That's how you're still saved in my phone.
Speaker 1: It's literally the longest name in my phone. Simon Lewis
Speaker 1: your Lordship letter. H And I want people to ask
Speaker 1: and what was that would be like past life? Can't
Speaker 1: talk about that, but I don't worry about it. Amazing.
Speaker 1: Thank you dude. There's yeah, yeah, yeah, I talk to
Speaker 1: you soon. Buddy returned to the Shadows as hosted an
Speaker 1: executive produced by Katherine McNamara and Dominic Sherwood. Our executive
Speaker 1: producer is Langley. Our senior producers are Liz Hayes and
Speaker 1: Diego Topia, and our producers are Hannah Harris and Kristin Vermilia.
Speaker 1: Original music by Alex Kinsey and performed by Alex Kinsey
Speaker 1: and Katherine McNamara. The episode was mixed by Sethl Landscape