Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Hey that's some Atlanta music right there. Yeah yeah, hello Beauty.
Speaker 2: Welcome to another Beauty Translated mini mini so number twelve,
Speaker 2: can you believe it? And this time I have producer
Speaker 2: Jess Crying chich in the house with me. Hi, Jess,
Speaker 2: welcome to the pod.
Speaker 1: Wow, thank you. It's so fun to be on this side.
Speaker 2: On the front facing pod side. Yeah, you're always are
Speaker 2: behind the scenes super producer. I'm really glad that that
Speaker 2: we're finally able to have you on the show. To
Speaker 2: introduce you to the listeners. Oh thanks, Well, Jess, tell
Speaker 2: the listeners a little bit about who you are and
Speaker 2: just what you do aside from working on Beauty Translated
Speaker 2: or some of the other things you do. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So obviously I'm a podcast producer and audio producer, but
Speaker 1: I'm also a musician. We've had so many fun musicians
Speaker 1: on this show this season. It's been really awesome. So
Speaker 1: I am trained as a jazz vocalist, but recently have
Speaker 1: formed a new project called Boy Jane, a kind of
Speaker 1: indie rock band here, you know, gigging around local here
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. So that's been really fun and it's been
Speaker 1: my little passion project.
Speaker 2: Tell Us about I love the name boy Jane, tell
Speaker 2: us about the tell Us about the name.
Speaker 1: Well, thanks, It's like, it's such a stupid, silly little
Speaker 1: name because all the music is written by me and
Speaker 1: my husband, and so we're the founding members of the band.
Speaker 1: And I was thinking, oh, like us as a duo,
Speaker 1: what are we like? We're kind of like Tarzan and Jane.
Speaker 1: But I would be the Tarzan and he would be
Speaker 1: the Jane. So it's like boy Jane, girl Tarzan, Yep, yep.
Speaker 2: And obviously that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: So we just stuck with boy Jane because it sounds cute.
Speaker 2: That is cute, That is very I love that. I'm
Speaker 2: really glad I asked that question because I never knew
Speaker 2: until today. That's really awesome. And I just have to
Speaker 2: say Tarzan was one of my favorite animated movies as
Speaker 2: a soundtrack. Yes, Phil Collins, you be.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, deep cut. Did you ever have those Disney
Speaker 1: Mania CDs growing up where was celebrities or you know,
Speaker 1: famous singers redoing songs.
Speaker 2: I didn't, but my cousins probably did, because I did
Speaker 2: have cousins that were much more Disney like fanatical than
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I had a couple of those, and my
Speaker 1: first ever crush on a celebri already was Usher because
Speaker 1: he redid You'll be in my Heart, and it like
Speaker 1: something in my ten year old brain was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: that is the sound of love.
Speaker 2: I need to hear that. I might have heard that
Speaker 2: version like a long ass time ago, but I need
Speaker 2: to go back and listen to that because Usher, one
Speaker 2: of my favorite R and B artists, that that sounds
Speaker 2: like an amazing cover.
Speaker 3: I stand by it up.
Speaker 2: Wow Wow. Why don't we go ahead and get into
Speaker 2: the news of today and why we fucking hate it here?
Speaker 2: You know, every Thursday, every Friday we record you know,
Speaker 2: for those the listeners. We do record these on Friday
Speaker 2: and release them on Monday, so that I have the
Speaker 2: latest in all the news. I go into Google and
Speaker 2: what I do is I type in trans news. I don't.
Speaker 2: I just go and I'm like, what are the top headlines?
Speaker 2: And I'm always amazed at the patterns I notice with
Speaker 2: the news articles. So many of them are Fox News.
Speaker 2: It's very transparent that Fox News seems to rely heavily
Speaker 2: on these clickbait headline articles. And it's a lot of
Speaker 2: trans people in sports and it's a lot of trans
Speaker 2: kids stuff and stuff like that, and it's it's insane.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I just thought I would talk about that
Speaker 2: for a second.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, they're grasping at straws for legitimacy, so
Speaker 1: they gotta do something.
Speaker 2: They're now fueling their headlines with like stuff about just
Speaker 2: groups of people that they don't like, which are trans
Speaker 2: women in sports and trans people having rights in general.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. So yeah, it's really upsetting. I mean, even
Speaker 2: here they have so this is recent news literally from
Speaker 2: an hour ago. Russia has passed a bill in parliament
Speaker 2: that bans trans healthcare for uh Russians that are trans.
Speaker 2: And that is deeply concerning because there are already a
Speaker 2: country that has anti gay laws and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But the headline that Fox News chooses for this, to me,
Speaker 2: feels very intentional. It says Russian lawmakers outlaw transgender medical
Speaker 2: procedures to affirm quote traditional values. Oh my god. And
Speaker 2: it's almost like when and I don't want to be
Speaker 2: a conspiracy theorist, but you know, I am sometimes, but
Speaker 2: it's almost like they're like, see, look at Russia, that's
Speaker 2: you know, what we should be doing over here. Blah
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: It's so fascinating with the cherry picking that they do
Speaker 1: because obviously in our history, Russia the Cold War blah
Speaker 1: blah blah, huge quote unquote enemy or whatever tension you
Speaker 1: know to the US. And now it's like, oh, even
Speaker 1: though they're you know, imminently wanting to engage in nuclear
Speaker 1: warfare again, like, look at them, at least they're traditional.
Speaker 2: We love that. Yeah, the Chrysto fascists in this country
Speaker 2: are really simping hard for Russia. And it's like it's transparent,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, I feel bad for people in Russia.
Speaker 2: I think the Russian government is horrible. I don't think
Speaker 2: anyone in Russia should be blamed for that. And keep
Speaker 2: in mind that the people do who do sympathize, they
Speaker 2: have an all state run media.
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, yeah, well, first off, really,
Speaker 1: you know, controversial stance there. Russian government bad.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: Another hot take from Beauty translated. But in other news,
Speaker 2: trans athletes have been banned from international cycling and I
Speaker 2: should note that, I mean that's a headline that I
Speaker 2: just read from the Telegraph dot co dot UK, you know,
Speaker 2: in the UK we call it turf Island. It's not
Speaker 2: trans athletes, it was trans women have been banned from
Speaker 2: participating in international cycling. I guess I could have seen
Speaker 2: this coming with like the Lance Armstrong stuff we talked
Speaker 2: about last week, and it keeps coming back up whenever
Speaker 2: people need something to be mad about. The specific ruling
Speaker 2: is that if anyone has gone through a male puberty,
Speaker 2: they cannot participate in women's cycling, which you know, I
Speaker 2: would continue to argue that, yes, while most people who
Speaker 2: experience a male puberty are going to have some physical
Speaker 2: advantages to people who do not, I think to pretend
Speaker 2: that a male puberty is like this fulkinating like thing,
Speaker 2: it goes back to this like bio essentialist and kind
Speaker 2: of I think misogynists thinking that women are always going
Speaker 2: to be biologically inferior to men. And I don't necessarily
Speaker 2: buy that, Yeah, I know women, sis women. When I
Speaker 2: say that, I know sis women who are biologically superior
Speaker 2: to me, you know, and and I did go through
Speaker 2: a male puberty, and of course everybody's body is different,
Speaker 2: so I don't buy you know.
Speaker 1: No, definitely not. I mean, it's like an elementary school,
Speaker 1: middle school debate that everybody goes through in their class. Oh,
Speaker 1: boys are stronger than girls, So that means so like,
Speaker 1: no matter what, the sports are more interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the whole WNBA, like.
Speaker 1: Nobody cares about it because it's women playing basketball. Don't
Speaker 1: know if you've seen there's always been people on like
Speaker 1: Twitter and whatever thinking that they could specifically do better
Speaker 1: at tennis than Serena Williams, who was like like the
Speaker 1: top athlete in my mind, like of the world. It's
Speaker 1: just like the Hubris.
Speaker 2: She prob Yeah, and I don't know do they do
Speaker 2: how do they do tennis? Do they do gendered? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Okay does she ever compete against men? Like? Do they
Speaker 2: ever do that? Does that know?
Speaker 1: I mean that was the whole the Billie Jean King
Speaker 1: thing that she had the movie a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: Not she you know, they the ubiquitous they made a
Speaker 1: movie about her. Who was the first woman to play
Speaker 1: against a man. I don't remember his name because who cares.
Speaker 1: He's whatever, Because again, the whole thing was like.
Speaker 2: He wanted to be like no, like you can't win
Speaker 2: or can't meet your girl? Does she win?
Speaker 1: She did win? She did win against Bobby Riggs. The
Speaker 1: number one ranked men's tennis player at the time. Yay
Speaker 1: Billy Jean King in the Battle of the Sexes match.
Speaker 2: Good for her.
Speaker 1: I also just feel like all these people who get
Speaker 1: super riled up about who should and shouldn't compete in
Speaker 1: sports aren't even like the people who are actually interested
Speaker 1: in sports, right It's like, are you watching blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean, sure, my perception is
Speaker 1: that there are you know, toxic men watching the NFL
Speaker 1: or whatever, being.
Speaker 2: Like, God, get them out of the sports.
Speaker 1: But I feel like the majority of these noisy people
Speaker 1: do they actually give a real crap.
Speaker 2: And then when they do, they're fucking hypocrites. I just
Speaker 2: pulled up this stupid bitches Martina and Narva Ritolova from
Speaker 2: the Czech Republic, Sorry Czech Republic. This horror has been
Speaker 2: participating in women's tennis her hall fucking career, and she
Speaker 2: says yikes, yikes. Even on her Wikipedia page it says
Speaker 2: LGB writes in her for what she does it she
Speaker 2: doesn't advocate for transferright. She only advocates for gay people
Speaker 2: because because she's a lesbian. First, Okay, I'm like, okay.
Speaker 1: So what does she think she's some mystical fairy like
Speaker 1: nobody else like her exists or should exist.
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess. So why why it's an insane
Speaker 2: With Katelyn Enginner last week, Kaitlyn Jenner participating in women's
Speaker 2: golf doesn't think trans women should be able to fucking
Speaker 2: cycle anyway? What's about her? We're gonna go on a
Speaker 2: quick break and when we come back, we're going to
Speaker 2: celebrate some good news and let's celebrate.
Speaker 3: That they.
Speaker 2: And we're back, all right. So first thing I wanted
Speaker 2: to talk about in the let celebrate that segment. Miss
Speaker 2: Netherlands crowns its first openly trans woman, Ricky Valerie Collier.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that's how I say that, And congrats to her.
Speaker 2: Want to celebrate her. She is stunning, and yeah, she
Speaker 2: deserves it. She looks like a fucking Victoria's Secret model.
Speaker 2: So of course she's been receiving hate for this because
Speaker 2: she is now going to go on to compete in
Speaker 2: the Miss Universe pageant, and she's been receiving a lot
Speaker 2: of hate and a lot of once again, trans people
Speaker 2: in another thing are being debated. You know, this whole
Speaker 2: story about Ricky Valerie Colier winning reminded me of when
Speaker 2: Genna Talakova in twenty twelve was all over the news
Speaker 2: because she was barred from participating in the Miss Canada
Speaker 2: Universe pageant, which at that time was run by Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: And that was my first memory as a trans child
Speaker 2: seeing Donald Trump be like super transphobic and hateful. Now
Speaker 2: fast forward to today, a trans woman from Thailand now
Speaker 2: owns Miss Universe. I followed pageants stuff for a long
Speaker 2: time when I was like younger, mostly like trans women pageants,
Speaker 2: because trans women have historically been excluded from beauty pageants,
Speaker 2: and they have historically competed in our own LGBT community pageants,
Speaker 2: which you know, was alongside a lot of a lot
Speaker 2: of CIS gay men also, so it's nice that we
Speaker 2: live in a world today where trans women can compete
Speaker 2: in the same kind of as other women because they're
Speaker 2: all getting plastic surgery. Anyway.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, this is random, but every
Speaker 1: time any picture, mention whatever of Trump shows up on
Speaker 1: my feed, I have to immediately like scroll it out
Speaker 1: of you like it. I feel like it will poison
Speaker 1: me if I see it in front of my eyes,
Speaker 1: Like literally some sort of black magic is gonna like
Speaker 1: seep out.
Speaker 2: Of the fuck it's the fucking bird box or something.
Speaker 2: During the Trump campaign, like in twenty twenty, I used
Speaker 2: to watch there was a guy on YouTube who dubbed
Speaker 2: his I forget.
Speaker 1: Like you lip dubbed them.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was the guy who was in the tick,
Speaker 2: the human tick or the blue whatever. Yeah, he dubbed
Speaker 2: Trump with a like gay voice, Like did like gay voice,
Speaker 2: but it was like word for word what he was saying. Oh,
Speaker 2: but it was just gay voice. And so for a
Speaker 2: while that was actually how I the only way I
Speaker 2: could consume like a Trump speech was by watching the
Speaker 2: gay voice dub. Wow. I love that. Yeah, that's incredible. Now,
Speaker 2: all of that stuff. In twenty twelve with genaitel Cova,
Speaker 2: she was all over the news. Trump dragged her through
Speaker 2: the mud basically and just made a you know, a
Speaker 2: fool of her. She's completely changed now she lives in
Speaker 2: South Korea. She now no longer looks like a white woman.
Speaker 2: She looks like a Korean woman. Oh no, and I
Speaker 2: mean she's half she was half Korean anyway. I think
Speaker 2: her mom was Korean, but you.
Speaker 1: Were telling me she was another Alie London.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, not another Ali London. But she's definitely
Speaker 2: half Korean, but she made herself look like one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: But she lives in South Korea and she has completely
Speaker 2: like left the public eye altogether. And I don't blame
Speaker 2: her because I think just all of that led her
Speaker 2: to be like, yeah, I don't want to be in
Speaker 2: the media anymore, and just moved to another country and
Speaker 2: just basically took on another identity, you know, not another identity,
Speaker 2: but like I am all pro that. I fantasize all
Speaker 2: the time about getting my ffs, getting my vagina, getting
Speaker 2: all of that, and then changing my name again and
Speaker 2: then just moving to another country and never talking to
Speaker 2: anyone again, and that way I can just be stealth
Speaker 2: without because like you know, that's my thought, is like, well, damn,
Speaker 2: if I ever want to be stealth again, how am
Speaker 2: I going to do that? That's how I'm going to
Speaker 2: do it. Y'all won't even know. I'll be on the
Speaker 2: next plane.
Speaker 1: Where would you go?
Speaker 2: Well, if I told.
Speaker 1: You that's true, you're right, You're right, don't reveal it.
Speaker 2: I would go to Spain. I mean that's obvious. I
Speaker 2: would go to Spain and I would turn into HILARI
Speaker 2: a Baldwin, and I would pretend I'm Spanish, And yeah,
Speaker 2: I would. I would assume a new identity as a
Speaker 2: Spanish woman. Well, which is my wildest dream.
Speaker 1: Well, I hope that's in the cards.
Speaker 2: Free Spain loves trans women?
Speaker 1: Does Spain really?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, Spain like that. Trans women have been like
Speaker 2: in Spanish media for a long long time. Oh, I
Speaker 2: guess I shouldn't sugarcoat it. If there are any Spanish listeners,
Speaker 2: they'll be like, I'm actually, yeah, it's probably got a
Speaker 2: good bit of transphobia. But I mean like there has
Speaker 2: been transvisibility in Spain for a very long time. You
Speaker 2: should watch Venino.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been on my list.
Speaker 2: I'm bad at TV.
Speaker 1: If that can be a thing, like, yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: get you. I'm just like a rewatcher of all the
Speaker 1: boring brain candy. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: Is that numb your brain?
Speaker 1: But have you watched milf Manner?
Speaker 2: What is milf Manner?
Speaker 1: Milf Manner is a you know, like Love Island type
Speaker 1: show for older women, for MILFs, and they're all like yeah,
Speaker 1: just you know, younger men they keep up with me.
Speaker 1: Older men just can't do it, you know. Blah, blah blah,
Speaker 1: all the typical stuff. So the twist is that all
Speaker 1: the men come out that they're supposed to be dating
Speaker 1: and they're each other's sons.
Speaker 2: Wait what, Oh my god, women.
Speaker 1: Who are the dating contestants are dating each other's young sons.
Speaker 2: So this is the first season of the show. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so they're never gonna be able to do this again.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, how can you trick?
Speaker 2: Because they gooped and gagged these women, so it's all
Speaker 2: of their sons. So these women are going to be
Speaker 2: dating the other women's sons.
Speaker 1: Is exactly.
Speaker 2: That is horrifying. That is some fucking Lucille Blue Lucille,
Speaker 2: what's her name from across the hall, Liza Minellias. That
Speaker 2: is crazy.
Speaker 1: So if you need brain candy that I'll have to
Speaker 1: check that is the one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll have to check that out. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: that sounds insane. I I I actually love There's like
Speaker 2: this episode of like I think it was like True
Speaker 2: Life where it was like that like MILFs with like
Speaker 2: and I'm talking like grannies, not like that's a guilf.
Speaker 2: Then yeah, it was like a Gulf yeah, with like
Speaker 2: younger guys, And I was like, this is crazy. But
Speaker 2: it wasn't There wasn't a twist like that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, was it really true life?
Speaker 2: No? It was produced life, you know. Okay, well that
Speaker 2: is all we have for let's celebrate that this week.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for tuning in to this week's
Speaker 2: episode of Beauty Translated, and thank you for being here
Speaker 2: with us, Jess, I appreciate it. Thanks, Carmen and h
Speaker 2: Can you tell the listeners where they can find you,
Speaker 2: follow you and listen to your music.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys can check out my band's Instagram page.
Speaker 1: Boy Jane Underscore band. We are like just starting out
Speaker 1: our Instagram page, so don't no hate.
Speaker 2: But yeah, basically this summer we'll.
Speaker 1: Be gigging around Brooklyn. Will be really soon at Branded Saloon,
Speaker 1: beloved queer spot here in Brooklyn. So I will be
Speaker 1: posting about those dates soon. So maybe I'll see you
Speaker 1: all there.
Speaker 2: Yeah that sounds Oh I want to go to Brooklyn. Yeah,
Speaker 2: be sure to tune in to Wednesday's episode. It is
Speaker 2: a season the Now featuring the trans Trailblazer Monica Holmes
Speaker 2: and her Darlene Wagner. I am talking to them both
Speaker 2: about their lives and accomplishments and Monica Hulmes w you know,
Speaker 2: is most famous for being the woman to create the
Speaker 2: trans Pride flag. So I am so excited for next
Speaker 2: week's season. For now, Jess hasn't even heard it. I
Speaker 2: can't wait. I know it's going to be It's going
Speaker 2: to be so good, So be sure to tune in
Speaker 2: on Wednesday for that and have a wonderful Monday.