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Get started now sign up. 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: Please use the promo code Colin so they know we 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: sent you. Please use the promo code Collins c O 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: L I N FanDuel Sports Book App sign up. This 13 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: is Prime Cuts the best of the Colin Coward Podcast. 14 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: Great week Nick Wright two parter was amazing, talks about 15 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: Draymond Green, criticism of him, and the greatest poker story 16 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: ever told. Also New York Post columnist Ian O'Connor his 17 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 1: thoughts on the Live Golf War with a PGA Met's 18 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: Yankee Subway series. Is it happening? Are the Giants as 19 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: poorly run as the Jets? But first, my top takes 20 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: of the week I want to talk about this for 21 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: about five minutes. So timing is everything. And there are 22 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: certain times in my life where I haven't worked well 23 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: with people, and then later on in life I do 24 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: work well with people. If you've been in a relationship, 25 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: maybe you're with your wife, and if you ever gotten 26 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: into discussion, oh my god, if we'd have met like 27 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: we were a teenagers, we would have hated each other. 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: But we met after college. We were both in our jobs. 29 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: We fell in love. My wife and I always joke 30 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: about that we would not have worked in high school, 31 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: but we were both divorced, and it worked really well. 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: We were at a cool place in our lives, more mature, 33 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: probably a little vulnerable, and you know, we click for 34 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: the last fifteen years. And I'm thinking about that story 35 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: in The Athletic that Kyrie Irving and the Brooklyn Nets 36 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: are at an impass and I really do think Lebron 37 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: and Kyrie work for each other now. So the thing 38 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: to remember about both and Lebron has always been highly calculated. 39 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving had his best three point shooting year ever, 40 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: and if Lebron played two more games, he would have 41 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: officially led the NBA in scoring Lebron and Kyrie are 42 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: not declining players, They're just not available as much as 43 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: people would like. Anthony Davis and Westbrook are declining players. 44 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: And remember Lebron's fear in Miami. Why did he bail 45 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: on Duwayne Wade because he feared he was getting old? 46 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 1: Remember that right knee. Duyne Wade could struggle on back 47 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: to backs. He would give you about three four games 48 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: in a series, not six or seven. Lebron likes veteran players, 49 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: but when he senses they're too old and getting banged 50 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: up or declining, he has bailed on them. Go back 51 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: to Cleveland, Go back to Miami, Go back to Cleveland again. 52 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: Remember Kyrie bailed on Lebron. Lebron didn't bail on Kyrie. 53 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: So that's an important facet to remember. Brooklyn needs a 54 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: big Anthony Davis would be that Lakers need off ball shooting. 55 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: Kyrie would answer that, don't get caught up in Westbrook. 56 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: He's irrelevant. Nobody really wants him. That's why he keeps 57 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: bouncing around the league. But I think it is interesting 58 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: to remember if you look at Lebron's career, he doesn't 59 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: like young players and he bails on even friends who 60 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: he feels become fragile, and I've been told twice by 61 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: people inside the Lakers. Lebron is frustrated that Anthony Davis 62 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: is declining and has aged very quickly. He peaked. Look 63 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: at the numbers. Anthony Davis peaked about four years ago. 64 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: It's never been the same player because he's never committed 65 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: in the offseason. He had to quote a couple of 66 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: weeks ago. He hasn't touched the ball from April. He 67 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: hasn't touched the ball since April, and he's never committed 68 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: in the weight room. So when the rumors come up 69 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: about the Lakers interested in Kyrie, I don't think it's 70 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: a coincidence. It's right after the Warriors win and all 71 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden you see Lebron working out with Kevin 72 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: Love and you see discussions about the Lakers and Kyrie Irving. 73 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: Just remember remember when the Eagles were a great band, 74 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: and then in nineteen eighty Don Henley and Glenn Frye 75 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: broke up. Don Henley was asked, what are the chances 76 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: of you guys ever getting back together, and he said, 77 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: when hell freeze is over. And then in nineteen ninety 78 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: four they got back together and their album was called 79 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: Hell Freeze is over, and Lebron's at a point in 80 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: his career where he is still great at initiating offense. 81 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: The Lakers were second in the league last year, believe 82 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: it or not at getting open threes. They just didn't 83 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: have anybody to hit them. And Kyrie Irving is coming 84 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: off his best three point shooting percentage of his career. 85 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: Just because you can struggle at one point break up 86 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: at one point doesn't mean you don't work together later. 87 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: I think Kyrie and Lebron need each other. Lebron's tired 88 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: of ad Katie's tired of Kyrie makes a ton of 89 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: sense to me. You know, there's some argument for sportspeople 90 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: about what is a dynasty. The Spurs Greg Popa which 91 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: Tim Duncan never won back to back championships, and so 92 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: many believe it was not a dynasty. Now, there's nothing 93 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: in the definition of a dynasty that says you have 94 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: to win back to back to back to back championships. 95 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: But I do think occasionally, when a team is successful 96 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: for eight, ten, twelve years or more, it goes from 97 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: a dynasty to an empire. And I think the Patriots, 98 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: the Spurs, and now the Warriors have reached a point 99 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: where they classify as an empire, which is empires don't 100 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: last three years. Shack and Kobe three titles together, a 101 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: few more years before, one year after and they blow up. 102 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: That's not an empire. That's two really talented guys that 103 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: get together, win some championships and wear each other out. 104 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: The Miami Heat the Heatles, their best year was year two, 105 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: darn Good in year three, declined and broke up after 106 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: year four. Am I supposed to be more impressed with that? 107 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: I don't even think that compares to what the Warriors 108 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: have built. Dynasties can be short. Empires never feel like 109 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: they are. In fact, the Patriots had two dynasties within 110 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: what I would call an empire. The Spurs had several 111 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: championships over twelve thirteen years. And I think that's what's 112 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: impressive about the Warriors. They're greater than a dynasty. Four 113 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: titles eight years, one shot from five titles eight years, 114 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: one shot, and some injuries from six titles eight years. 115 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: They will be favored again next year. And what they 116 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: really are is the essence of the sport, top down, 117 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: smartest organization. Coach is a former player the star wins 118 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: as the number one or with KD as the number two. 119 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,119 Speaker 1: Three of their players have worked together for the entire 120 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: span of it. I think Roger Federer Serena Williams. That's 121 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: not dynastic, that's an empire. They have created empires Tiger Woods, 122 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: Jack Nicholas, from courses to championships to speaking fees. That's 123 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: beyond a dynasty, and it's very rare. But I think 124 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: that's what Golden State has created is that on so 125 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: many levels they are copied. You have a former player 126 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: as a GM as a coach, a diehard basketball fan 127 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: as an owner. They draft and develop at the height 128 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: of the profession, and so when people say, well, you know, 129 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: did they win here and did they win there? I 130 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: don't think dynasty is the ultimate compliment. I mean, if 131 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: you told me in my career what I could become, 132 00:08:53,760 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: the highest compliment is an empire. I make money with gambling, podcasting, streaming, television, audio, 133 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: subscription advertising. That's far more impressive. They've been having meteoric success. Briefly, 134 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: an empire is when you have holdings. An empire is 135 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: when you control many things. You're elite at scouting and coaching, 136 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: you're elite at defense and shooting, you start looking if 137 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: you deep dive on the Warriors, like unless you're in 138 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: the Bay Area or a five percent or a diehard 139 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: NBA fan. What they're doing now is phenomenal. They have 140 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: many believe, one of the best young big men James Wiseman. 141 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: He didn't play in the finals. One of the best athletic, twitchy, 142 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: versatile defenders Jonathan Kuminga. Didn't see how much Didge in 143 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,359 Speaker 1: the playoffs. 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He's gotta get buckets. 184 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: The Lakers were second in the NBA in open threes 185 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: thanks to Lebron, they have no shooters. Kyrie acknowledged, was 186 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: my bat in Cleveland. I wasn't mature enough. Kyrie to Lebron, 187 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: don't worry about Westbrook irrelevant, Nobody wants him. Let the 188 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: contract bleed out. Ad to k D, he needs a 189 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: more chill personality defense a big What he doesn't need 190 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: is another shooter who doesn't really want to defend and 191 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: wants the ball. With a minute left, no, no, that 192 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: Ads never wanted that pressure. Ad defends he's got size. 193 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: You need it in the East. Remember the East, you 194 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: need Biggs, you don't out West. I mean the sound 195 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: you're getting rid of DeAndre Ayton, the Warrior's biggest cavon 196 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: Loody most teams in the West Yrkid all right, Rudy 197 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: Gobert could be on the move. It's just Yoki. Yokige 198 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: is the only one. You mean. Dallas now their biggest 199 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: Christian Wood who's a six nine rail thin forward. So 200 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: I'll tell that at you is that it kind of 201 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: makes some sense, right, take Westbrook out. Nobody wants him eventually. Okay. 202 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: So here's the thing that so Brew actually said that 203 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: to me off the air today. Christians is the only 204 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: way the Lakers. Chris Bruce started set it off the 205 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: air like because we were in commercial break when that 206 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: Sham's athletic story broke and we were about to go 207 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: on the air and he was and I was like, 208 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: Sham's is connecting the Lakers to it? And Bru just 209 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: set off handed. He was like, are they trading Anthony 210 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: Davis because that's the only way they're getting him. And 211 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: my response in my response to you is if for 212 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: that trade to happen, if I'm the Lakers, I need more. 213 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what the more is. I don't know 214 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: that I want Pattie Mills because he's so old. I 215 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: don't know what the more is. I don't know if 216 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: you have to work in another team. But I don't 217 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: think as I know, you're down on a D. And 218 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: obviously he's got injury issues and maybe some motivation and 219 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: he's a declining plot. Yeah, but he's still more valuable 220 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: than Kyrie Irving. Right, he is still more valuable than 221 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, who has the same injury issues farm greater 222 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: reliability issues, and he is not the two way guy 223 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: than Anthony Davis has proven to be. So that is 224 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: a fascinating one, because can you win a title with 225 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: Lebron Lebron and a D. Yes, we saw it, but 226 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: you need the rest of the team to be really 227 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: well formed. Can you win a title with Lebron and Kyrie? 228 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: Not only did we see it, the rest of the 229 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: team wasn't all that well formed and you beat a 230 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: damn juggernaut to you know, to win that title. That 231 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: one is fascinating, but I would need more if I'm 232 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: the Lakers, I can't trade a D straight up for 233 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving. But it is a fascinating Remember this, I'm 234 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: trying to think. Hold on, let me ask you this. Wait, wait, 235 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: let me ask you this. You said forget Westbrook, now 236 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: you want to get true Wackytown. Okay, I give you 237 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: a D and Russ and you give me Kyrie and 238 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: Ben take it in a second. That I would do 239 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: because that it's like, if you now you are as 240 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: as as flawed as Ben is. He's far more valuable 241 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: than Russ, no question about it. And if you're the Nets, 242 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: that's the cost, the taxes. And by the way, you've 243 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: never seen Ben Simmons play, and the Russ contract is expiring. 244 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: That if I'm the Lakers, that one I do. Oh 245 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: that's an interesting one. How about this? That one? And 246 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: I think the contracts work. Oh, that one. That would 247 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: be one of the biggest NBA trades ever. Okay, so 248 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: I said this in the preamble to you. Lebron has 249 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: a history. He even bailed on d Wade once he 250 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: was physically vulnerable. Kyrie is not declining, had his best 251 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: three point shooting year ever. A D is Look it 252 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: up peaked three to four years ago, his field goal percentage, 253 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: his points. He had a terrible shooting year, Lebron. He 254 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: shot eighteen percent from three. I don't know how it 255 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: was in a bigger story. Eighteen percent. Yeah, he's impossibly bad. 256 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: It was. It was in the discussion for the worst 257 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: three point shooting year yea by any player ever. But 258 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: go ahead. So Kyrie's not a declining player. Lebron plays 259 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: two more games, he wins the NBA scoring title. He's 260 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: declining in availability. He is not declining in the ability 261 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: to get baskets. Lebron knows. Lebron gets the most out 262 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: of everybody. Kyrie acknowledged we broke up my bad I 263 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: was immature. So Lebron has bailed on his best friend, 264 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: d Wade, Remember d Wade. At the end, he would struggle. 265 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: He needed like four days rest for his right knee. 266 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: Of course, Chris Bosh, a great player, great guy, good friend, 267 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: had health issues. Lebron will bail on a friend if 268 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: he feels they're declining. Kyrie is not available, but he's 269 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: not declining. He is still the best small finisher in 270 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: the sport. It is fascinating. One Colin Listen I have been. 271 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: I've been talking since December. At first, it was a 272 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: little tongue in cheek, a little serious when it looked 273 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: when the Nets weren't playing Kyrie at all, when it 274 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: was looked like they were going to get zero games 275 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: out of him, and we knew he had this contract 276 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: coming up and the Russ thing Cluly wasn't working. I 277 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: said in December, Russ for Kyrie. I was like, you guys, 278 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: people can say that sounds ridiculous, but if you're going 279 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: to get zero games out of him and then he's 280 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: going to walk, he's worth zero at least. See if 281 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: Russ reunited with Kevin Durant. This was when they still 282 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: had hardened keeping mind, you know what I mean, the 283 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: Nets had harden and KD. I was like, it might 284 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: be worth a try if you're Brooklyn. And then it 285 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: just seems to be more and more slow momentum towards 286 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: a Kyrie and Lebron reunion. It does seem like that 287 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: because now I do understand here and here is where 288 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: the Nets have to be careful, because this is not 289 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: a situation like Ben Simmons asking out with four years 290 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: left on his deal. This is not an Anthony Davis 291 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: asking out even with one year left on his deal. 292 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: This is a player who can be a free agent 293 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: in Kyrie Irving right now. So if the Nets are like, 294 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: we're not gonna make it, help you out and send 295 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: you to the Lakers, he can opt out, be a 296 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: free agent and sign anywhere he wants. And I know 297 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: people are like, oh, only the bad teams have cap space. Man, 298 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: the Lakers can't clear up the capsus out trading Russ, 299 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: but other teams can clear up cap space. The Clippers 300 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: could find a way to get Kyrie Irving quickly. The 301 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: Knicks could easily clear up the cap space to sign 302 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: him out right. And if you're the Nets, can you 303 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: if Kyrie goes to you and says, I want you 304 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: to find a way to trade me to Team X, 305 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: and if you don't, I am opting out and I'm 306 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: not asking for a trade anywhere. I am signing with 307 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: the Knicks. Can you deal with that? If you're the 308 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: Nets of losing Kyrie Irving to the fucking Knicks across 309 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: the bridge for nothing, I don't think you can. So 310 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: I don't think the Nets have leverage the way most 311 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: people think they do. The Blazers have leverage, like I 312 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: don't know if they would use it if Dame order, 313 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: because Dame has been such a good citizen and such 314 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: a great teammate. But he's under contract, right. The Lakers 315 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: have leverage with Anthony Davis, he's under contract. The Nets 316 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: have no leverage with Kyrie because he's not under contract. 317 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: If he opts out. And that's a medium, it's interesting, 318 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: it's interesting. I like it. Yeah, I like it a lot. 319 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: I like it a lot. That's a good one. Colin Okay, 320 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: So let's pivot. So Draymond Green called Nick out. I 321 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: want to run the piece of video we have. We'll 322 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: start with this. Let's roll the tape on Draymond Green 323 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: very popular podcast that happens to be on this network. 324 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: Of the volume. Go ahead. Nick Wright comes out and say, ah, 325 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: Steph Curry, that's it. He'll never see the finals again. 326 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins three years, ninety five million dollars left on 327 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: his deal, Why would they go do that? Worst trade? 328 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: And blah blah blah. I hope you willing to stand 329 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: on that word, brother, stand on that and tell us 330 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: why you thought that. Tell us why you thought that, 331 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: tell us why this whole series. You've been yapping, yapping, 332 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you want to switch 333 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: to the Doves. Tell us why, because what's in question 334 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: is your basketball knowledge. Okay, Nick, It is interesting because 335 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: obviously I defend Draymond. I thought he was so good 336 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: in the last couple of games of the series. He 337 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: was so Draymond, he was such a catalyst. I always 338 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: argued that the great teams have always had players who 339 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: know exactly what they are. Manu Ginobli came off the bench, 340 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: he would have started for twenty seven teams. He knew 341 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: exactly what he was. Pippin knew exactly what he was, 342 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: so did Ron Harper. Harper everts twenty a game for 343 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: the Clippers when he came over, but that's not what 344 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: they needed from him. The great teams have these players 345 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: that could score more, that could do more. Now, Draymond's 346 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: not a great scorer, but I've always felt he is 347 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: the bouncer with the night and that he controls his 348 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: emotions more than people think he does, and that his 349 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: job is to be a more skilled robbin. He's trying 350 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: to be annoying, and I really think, of course, I 351 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: think it really, really works because when he goes to 352 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: more skilled players and disrupt them like he did with 353 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown, I thought it was incredibly important. So that's 354 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: why I argue guys like Draymond historically have immense value. 355 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: All that's true, So I want to there's a lot 356 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: of stuff here I address. I'm gonna do a rorst order. 357 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: Everything you said is true. It is also true that 358 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: through four finals games, he was having arguably the worst 359 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: finals of any future Hall of Famer. Ever, his finals 360 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: is fine. Through four games. The first game was, by 361 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: Basketball References game score metric, the worst playoff game of 362 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: his life. His second game was he I thought he 363 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: was actually kind of good. That was the game where 364 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: he was totally unhinged, insane in it. The third game 365 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: was the worst game of his life by that same metric. 366 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: His fourth game he was so bad his mother called 367 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: him out on Twitter and his coach benched him. Game five, 368 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: he was really good in the first half. In the 369 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: second half he had four fouls, fouled out, took zero shots. 370 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: And then in game six he was excellent. He was excellent. 371 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: He was on both ends of the court. That's Draymond. 372 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: That's a fair reading of Draymond Green's NBA Finals. Okay, 373 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: that's the finals. Now we go, you know, we we 374 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: open up the aperture. As my buddy Kevin Wilds would say, 375 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: Dromond Greens of he called himself the greatest defensive player ever, 376 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: that's nonsense. Is he one of the three greatest defensive 377 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: players of his era? Without a doubt? Is he a 378 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: future haul Famer without a doubt? Is he, in my opinion, 379 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: more important than Clay Thompson has been in this Warriors 380 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: dynastic run. It is close, but yes, because I think 381 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: you can find in this league a shooter more easily 382 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: than you can find a guy who's gonna do all 383 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: the little shit Draymond does on offense. The offense gone 384 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: away this year, But he used to. I mean he 385 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: scored thirty two in Game seven of the finals. Dude 386 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: had thirty two, fifteen and nine in Ard ten, and 387 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: nine in Game seven of the finals that they lost 388 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: to Lebrun. He used to be able to score the basketball, 389 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: and his passing is great, and he's a good at 390 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: times great defender. Now, there was a three year stretch 391 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: where he was the most devastating defender in basketball. He 392 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: won one defensive Player of the Year for a second 393 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: to two other years. To Kahi Leonard, I came on 394 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 1: your show before I even had my own show and 395 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: said Draymond was the best defender of messball. So all 396 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: that's true about his career, right, He is not the 397 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: rebounder Rodman, but he is a better offensive player than 398 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: Rodman was. Modern Rodman is a great comp right, Okay, 399 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: Now to what Draymond said about me, I unlike. Here's 400 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: one of the reasons you and I get along, Colin. 401 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: In addition to the many things you know that we 402 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: have in common, here is maybe one of the most important. 403 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: We are two of the only members of the media 404 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: that understand what's good for the goose and good for 405 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: the gander. We make our living making bold proclamations, talking 406 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of shit, taking a little time at 407 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: times pointed jabs, and trying to trying to literally predict 408 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: the future. You don't do to predict the future stuff 409 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: as much as I do, but you do some of it. There. 410 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: Everything about picking a game or a champion is predicting 411 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: the future, which, by the way, not possible. You can 412 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: have informed speculation, and you and I understand that occasionally 413 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna have big swings and crush it over the fence, 414 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: and occasionally not only we're gonna miss the ball. Bat's 415 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: gonna fly out of our hand and hit the old 416 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: lady in the front row. And people are gonna bring 417 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: that shit up for a couple of years, and you 418 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: gotta take it. My Andrew Wiggins take, that is gone international. 419 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: At this point, I was getting tweets in Hebrew. It 420 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: was on It was on a pop TikTok. Okay, it 421 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 1: has gone international for being a bad take. I was wrong, 422 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: Draymond said. So there's my issue with little Draymonds say. 423 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: Draymond said, I hope you stand on it. If I 424 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: were to ask talk to Draymond, I would say, what 425 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: do you mean by stand on it? Like do you 426 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: mean by admit I said it? Like not say that 427 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: to deep fake? Okay, I will stand on that. Are 428 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: you saying I hope you still believe that? Of course 429 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: they don't still believe that I was wrong. Like Andrew 430 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: Wiggins played better than I expected him too. I said 431 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: they wouldn't have or make the finals. They just won 432 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: the championship. So I can't stand on that part of 433 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: the take. It. What I said wouldn't happen did happen. 434 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: So I just missed on it, and that happens. The 435 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: only frustration I have is not directed at Draymond, because 436 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: Draymond is new media and by the way, Draymond, I'm 437 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: not sure where they teach new media classes, but if 438 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: you're going to be in new media, you should probably 439 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: get some of the stuff right. Like when you said, oh, 440 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: and now you want to switch your pick to the Warriors. No, 441 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: my friend, it was actually worse than that. I picked 442 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: the Warriors. Then I switched my pick to Boston. So 443 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: I was wrong, but you were wrong in your new 444 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: media about what I was wrong about. Okay, but here 445 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: is what's frustrating to me my colleagues, not like Wild's Brew, 446 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: but like general colleague sports media who have shared that 447 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: two and a half year old Andrew Wiggins clip when 448 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: you know how I know that's an old clip because 449 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: I don't have hair and I'm in the studio. It's 450 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: been two and a half fucking years since I've been 451 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: in the studio and since I had a shaved head, 452 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: so it's an old clip. But folks pretending that what 453 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: I said there wasn't mostly consensus opinion. Who really irks me? 454 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins was considered a huge miss and the worst 455 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: contract in sports. Now the Warriors, to their credit, saw 456 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: something I did, and that's why Bob Myers makes the 457 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: big bucks. But the idea that I was the only 458 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: person criticizing the Andrew Wiggins trade is so ah historical. 459 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: But I said this on TV today, I'll say it again. 460 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: I hope everyone has their old TikTok's ready to send 461 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: this to me. In twenty twenty five, I saw the 462 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: odds championship odds for your beloved Warriors. They're the favorites 463 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: to repeat. Man, get out of here. They are not 464 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: winning the title next year. And by the way, everyone 465 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: should send everyone associated with the Warriors should send edible 466 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: arrangements and bouquets to Chris Middleton, thanking him for being hurt, 467 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: because if he doesn't get hurt, the Bucks kicked the 468 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: shit out of everybody. Nobody was beating Milwaukee Jannice. Everyone 469 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: I love. People are like, oh, Boston gave Yanna's trouble? 470 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: They did he everge thirty five and fifteen? I don't 471 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: think give that much trouble. So there's my rams there. 472 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: And by the way, can you, since you're his boss, 473 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: can you tell him I would like to come on 474 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: the Draymond Green Show. Okay, and I will. I will 475 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: stand on it. Tell him that I will come on 476 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: the show. We can share some logos tequila. We're both 477 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: clutch clients. We MAV. MAV can be the moderator. We 478 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: have a lot of things in common. Uh. You know, 479 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: he's got a chirpy mother. I've got a chirpy wife. 480 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: We've got some things that we get seedy on. And 481 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: we can discuss whatever he wants. He's actually tell him 482 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: I will. He's actually he has a He's very coachable 483 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: people wouldn't You wouldn't suspect that being a rich, you know, 484 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: one hundred million net worth star. He's as coachable as 485 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: any athlete I've ever had. He's constantly saying, don't don't 486 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: tell me how good I am. What do I gotta 487 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: get better at? Which is such a redeemable quality for Well, 488 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: then you tell him to take that invisible backpack off 489 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: when he's taken three pointers that you should tell him 490 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: be like, hey, Draymond, that that little that little white 491 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: rock you have on your back when you're shooting threes, 492 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: pretend it's not there. Well, he's somebody I've admired, read 493 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: and respected for a long time. You know him as 494 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: Ian O'Connor, of course New York Post columnists. Two of 495 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: my favorite sports books ever are Belichick and Coach k 496 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: The Rise and Rain of Mike Shashevsky. But he also 497 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: wrote another book which I haven't read, but it's fitting 498 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: with our first topic today. Arnie Jack Palmer and Nicholas 499 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: and golf's greatest rivalry. And the PGA was so pristine 500 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: and so beloved. But the world has changed, lots of platforms, globalization, 501 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: somebody eventually was going to throw a lot of money 502 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: at golfers. This is what UFC did to boxing. They 503 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: were a disruptor. Boxing was based on greed and too 504 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: many weight classes and promoters driving the sport. Can I 505 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: not argue, if we get out of the blood money 506 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: conversation for a second, is that the PGA is simply 507 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: simply an organizational arm. These are not employees, they're independent contractors. 508 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: The PGA doesn't run the Masters, Ryder Cup, US opened, 509 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: PGA Championship, British Open, the stuff most people watch, and 510 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: that this was bound to happen among globalization, Amazon, Apple, 511 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: Saudi money, and that we don't like where the money's 512 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: coming from. But the PGA, which is a charity, these 513 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: are independent contractors some sort of similar situation. The PGA 514 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: was really vulnerable. Greg Norman's been pushing back for twenty years. 515 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: Tigers had disagreements, Michels has been complaining for a decade. 516 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: That's where I find myself Ian, if you get out 517 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: of the blood money argument for a second, that PGA 518 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: put themselves in a banned space. They've had grumbling golfers 519 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: for twenty years. Well, Colin, even beyond twenty years. I 520 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: remember when Greg Norman was threatening to start a tour 521 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: back in the nineties and to compete against the PGA Tour. 522 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: And without question, when you look at Tiger Woods starting 523 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: a tournament in his prime with no guaranteed money, starting 524 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: a season on the PGA Tour with no guaranteed money, 525 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: nothing more than one hundred and twenty six guy in 526 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: the field, at some point somebody was going to present 527 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: a model where the stars were paid up front, and 528 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: it was inevitable it happened. I actually agree with you 529 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. The PGA Tour has put itself in 530 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: position to be challenged like this. Now, nobody loves where 531 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: the money is coming from. But at some point that 532 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: conversation will taper off and it's going to be the 533 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: NFL against the USFL. And I think, who knows who's 534 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: going to win this one, because I think the more 535 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: name players that live takes away from the PGA Tour. 536 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: That obviously hurts the depth of the PGA Tour fields 537 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: and in that sport, really the three players that matter 538 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: most now are Rory McElroy, Jordan Speeth and Justin Thomas. 539 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: They don't play every week, so you do need the 540 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: Brooks Kepkos and the Bryson d Shambos and Patrick Reid's 541 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: to fill out fields for people to come and watch. 542 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: Those players are now leaving, and I think they'll continue 543 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: to leave, and this is going to be a serious 544 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: threat to the PGA Tour long term. Listen, you cover 545 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 1: golf extensively. I just read Alan Shipnuk's book on Phil Mickelson, 546 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: a wildly colorful character. We know about the gambling losses, 547 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: but I've always felt fills his own sort of platform. 548 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: He's his own business and I look at him like 549 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: a Peyton Manning, who's eventually going to sell that Omaha 550 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: production company, probably do a network for hundreds of millions 551 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: of dollars, you know, fills not as viable as a golfer. 552 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: He would have gone into broadcasting or created his own 553 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: media company. I think I'm less surprised about Phil Mickelson, 554 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: who has very little runway left. I mean, were you 555 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 1: shocked by him doing this? No, I wasn't shocked by it. 556 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: I disagree certainly with his decision to do it, And 557 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: as I wrote in a column a couple of weeks ago, 558 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: Phil and Greg Norman sort of deserve each other. They've 559 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: been full of you know what for a long time. 560 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: And Nicholson is a great player. He's probably going to 561 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: go down among the top twelve, maybe ten players of 562 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: all time, and he knows he's not going to win anymore. 563 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 1: He pulled that PGA championship last year out of a hat, 564 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,240 Speaker 1: and so his winning days are over. He owes obviously 565 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: a lot in gambling losses. He's talked openly about that 566 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: being a problem for him for years that he's tried 567 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: to work on. So I'm not surprised that he did that. 568 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: I think the bigger threat is a guy like or 569 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: even two guys really, but d Shambou and Kepka, those 570 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: are the players that the PJA Tour have to worry 571 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: about because they're in their prime. When d Shambou was 572 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: healthy Colin he arguably was the best player in the world. 573 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: If he gets healthy again, and if Kepka gets healthy again, 574 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: these are guys who can win majors. Now will the 575 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: majors allow them in? I think so. I think they should. 576 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: As much as I'm opposed to taking the blood money, don't, 577 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: I wouldn't go as far as banning these players from 578 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: major championships. And as you noted, the PGA Tour has 579 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: no control over those championships. So there's our football season 580 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: still about six weeks away before we kind of jump 581 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 1: into it. And obviously baseball, both the Yankees and Mets, 582 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: who have spent freely, are doing very well. And I'll 583 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: come back to baseball in a second. The New York scene. 584 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: But you know, for years and years, I've understood the 585 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: Bears and the Lions, and Washington and Houston weren't well run. 586 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: I understood the Jets weren't well run, and Stephen Ross 587 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: had chaos in his organization. The head scratcher for me 588 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: has always been the Giants. I've always called him the 589 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: accounting firm of the NFL. Even when they won, they 590 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 1: were boring. Even in good years, nobody wanted to talk 591 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: about him. Almost as a rule in if you look 592 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: at the bad teams in this league, some have good quarterbacks, 593 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: some have good coaches, some have interesting rosters. Cleveland, Jets, Houston, 594 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: it's all ownership. It's shaky front offices, it's chaos upstairs. 595 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: I always thought the Maras were well equipped to handle speedbumps. 596 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: I look at them now, and maybe this is hyperbolic. 597 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: I almost insert the Giants into the circus category of 598 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: the league. How are they perceived in New York? I 599 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: think they were a bit of a joke under Dave Gettlman. 600 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,280 Speaker 1: How the Mara family, John Mara and the Tissues ever 601 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: agreed to hand over their multi billion dollar franchise to 602 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 1: him is beyond me. Joe Say is a different story. 603 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: I think there's a sense now that the Giants have 604 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: a plan finally and a guy who can build a 605 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: program in place. And really, over the years they've been 606 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 1: helped greatly by good general managers. George young Ernie A. Corzy, 607 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: Jerry Reese stabilized that franchise and nobody was calling John 608 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: Marra bad owner in two thousand and seven through two 609 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: eleven when he won two Super Bowls, and really in 610 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight that was their best team. Coughlin. 611 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin told me later they would have won it 612 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: all if pleasco burst and accidentally shoot himself. So he 613 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: was a good owner when he had a good head 614 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: coach and a good quarterback. They didn't have that in 615 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: recent years, and so he's been a bad owner. And 616 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 1: right now we'll find out if Brian Dable is a 617 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: good coach and if he can turn Daniel Jones into 618 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: a good quarterback. He obviously has the athletic and physical 619 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: tools to be that. But let's see, this is his 620 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 1: final year to get that done. But the Giants, because 621 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: of the tradition going back into the fifties and sixties 622 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: and Sam Huff and Frank Gifford, and they do hold 623 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: a place in the market that the Jets really don't. 624 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: And obviously, as you know, the Jets haven't been in 625 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl since Man stepped on the moon. It's 626 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: a phrase I like to use quite a bit, and 627 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas has given them a bit of a chance here. 628 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: He had a really, really good draft by all accounts, 629 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: and it all comes down to whether or not Zach 630 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: Wilson is the real thing, or if they'll be searching 631 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: for another quarterback in a year or two. But New 632 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: York Football, I have to say, it's been miserable in 633 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: this market, Colin. When both teams are out of it 634 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: by Halloween and the Yankees and Mets are done, particularly 635 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,240 Speaker 1: the Yankees, then you turn to football and they're done 636 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: by Halloween, it is it's bleak. So I would welcome 637 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: just one of those two franchises to become relevant again, 638 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: because it just makes column writing in this market a 639 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: whole lot more interesting. Well, football has buying large taken 640 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: over virtually every market in the country, including Boston, where 641 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 1: the Patriots rain sort of put let's be honest, the 642 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: Red Sox in the back seat of that sedan for 643 00:39:55,600 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: many years. But New York's an exception. Steve Cohen goes 644 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: from Wall Street and has bought Scherzer, Linda or a 645 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 1: great roster. Okay, it was already potentially good. He pays 646 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: for Buck Show Walter, They go get it. They go 647 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: get Max Scherzer. They had to Grom they had some 648 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: pieces in place. You can't do that. In the NFL. 649 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: Dave Tapper buys Carol Carolina. They're still a mess. It 650 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: just doesn't work that way. But in baseball, if you 651 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 1: look at the best teams right now, it's the biggest 652 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: market in the South, Atlanta, the two New York teams, 653 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: the Dodgers, the biggest market in Canada, Toronto, It's Houston. 654 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: It's major cities. The bottom of the sport is Kansas City, Cincinnati, Oakland. 655 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: It's it's low pay rolls, so you can buy your 656 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: way into baseball. But here's what's interesting. I find the 657 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: Mets more fascinating than the Yankees. The Yankee story is 658 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 1: great pitching and the Long Bowl, but I can't I 659 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 1: went and watched three of the four Mets games against 660 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 1: the Dodgers, and they're doing it without Scherzer and to 661 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: grom power its defense, it's managing. I feel like New 662 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: York is one of the last cities in the country 663 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: where baseball is still king and judging by social media, 664 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: I know the Yankees have the championships, but there's a 665 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: special place there's an underdog thing with the Mets from 666 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: the outside that feels different than the Giants and the Jets, 667 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,280 Speaker 1: that there's a big chunk of the city that's into 668 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 1: the Mets. And I look at the construct of their team, 669 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: and I'm not some baseball expert. I think they're kind 670 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: of built for the postseason. I really do your interpretation 671 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: of what you're seeing with the Mets to be not 672 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: fully staffed and to go out West and to really 673 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,720 Speaker 1: compete late innings beat teams like the Dodgers. I watched 674 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: those games. It was pretty impressive. I thought coming out 675 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: of the weekend they were a better team last year, 676 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 1: were in first place for nearly three months. Louis Rojas 677 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,720 Speaker 1: was doing a really good job as a rookie manager, 678 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 1: and I think he'll be good. He's young when he 679 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: gets a second chance. He's now with the Yankees, but 680 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: the team unraveled after Degram went down other injuries and 681 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: it got away from It's not going to unravel under 682 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: Buck Showalter. He's seen too much. He's been a good 683 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 1: manager in baseball for too long, and that's what I'm seeing. 684 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: I'm seeing a Buck show Walter team. I talked to 685 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: Glenn Sherlock, longtime bench coach, been in the game forever recently, 686 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 1: and he said the only manager he's ever seen who 687 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: runs every defensive meeting in drill, He's like a Belichick 688 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: is Buck Showalter spring training. During the season, show Walter 689 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: is on top of every defensive drill and meeting. And 690 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,959 Speaker 1: the Mets catch the ball, they do things you haven't 691 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: seen them do in the past, and they aggressively run 692 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: the bases and put pressure on the defense to make 693 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 1: a play, and haven't seen the Mets do that in 694 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: recent years. And there is a feeling in New York. 695 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: And I remember even back to eighty six when they 696 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 1: wanted with that great team that New York became a 697 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: Mets town. It can be a Mets town again. That 698 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,280 Speaker 1: is possible. I feel a can and it was unanimous 699 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: among Mets fans. My wife is a person who lived 700 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 1: and died with the Metster died and died with the 701 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,479 Speaker 1: Mets every night for decades. So I usually watch about 702 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty one hundred and forty Mets games 703 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: a year because of that. And it's just for the 704 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,399 Speaker 1: first time they hired a manager that was received unanimously 705 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: as the right pick, and they have an owner for 706 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: the first time who has a George Steinbrenner budget and 707 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 1: stomach for the fight. They've wanted that for so long, 708 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: to have their own Steinbrenner. He's more like George Steinbrenner 709 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: than how Steinbrenner. So for the Mets to have that 710 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: now the manager that you believe in, an owner that 711 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: you know will pay to correct mistakes and add to 712 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 1: the roster to win instead of to win it all, 713 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: instead of maybe losing in the first round, to go 714 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: out and get Scherzer. Yeah, I think they can win 715 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 1: it all right Now, the Mets and Yankees met in 716 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: the World Series, Colin, I think it would be the 717 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: same result as two thousand. I think the Yankees win 718 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: in five. But if you get Serzer back and de 719 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: Gram can stay healthy, which I'm still shaky on, I 720 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: think Sarson will be there in October. I just don't 721 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: know about the Gram. But if those two guys do 722 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: stay healthy, wow, they certainly have a chance to win 723 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: at all. You know. Steve Cohen, again a Wall Street 724 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 1: guy that stepped in, was a passionate Mets fan. There's been, 725 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: to say the least, some dubious ownership in New York, 726 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: James Dolan, head of the class Woody Johnson Johnson family 727 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: not great. Cohen appears to be received now. Some of 728 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: it's just the success, but he seems to listen to 729 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,879 Speaker 1: the fans like he is. It feels like to me 730 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 1: he's actually a fan, just a really wealthy one. What's 731 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: your interpretation of him? A really wealthy fan. No question, 732 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: grew up loving the Mets. I think if you look 733 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: at his business background and becoming a hedge fun zillionaire, 734 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,240 Speaker 1: certainly didn't always treat people nicely in his business world, 735 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,720 Speaker 1: and I think that's been documented. So I don't think 736 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: he comes in as this knight and shining armor in 737 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: one sense, and another is because Mets fans, honestly, all 738 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: they care about is that they have someone who is 739 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 1: as invested as they are in the final result and 740 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 1: is willing to be to have the top payroll in baseball. 741 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: And they just wanted an owner to compete with George Steinbrenner, 742 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,800 Speaker 1: and now they have one who would have done that 743 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: if George were still with us, and is willing, I think, 744 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: probably to do more than how Steinbrenner. And that's what 745 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: they care about. I think Cohen is a very interesting 746 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,919 Speaker 1: guy who right he acts and feels like a fan. 747 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 1: It seems like when they lose, he feels it like 748 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 1: a fan does. Yes and yeah. At times that can 749 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,800 Speaker 1: be a dangerous thing too, But the Mets fan wants 750 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: that they want an owner who cares as much as 751 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,359 Speaker 1: they do. I don't I know they didn't feel with 752 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,280 Speaker 1: Fred Wilpon and now they get it with Steve Cohen, 753 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 1: and it's a It's a powerful asset to have as 754 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: you try to win a championship for the first time 755 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: since eighty six, and I know Mess fans are thrilled 756 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: to have that on their side. The volume, make sure 757 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,280 Speaker 1: to check out The Draymon Green Show. I brought Draymond 758 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: Green into the volume because one of the more entertaining 759 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: voices in sports, unique perspective understands behind the rope. 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