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Speaker 3: I try to. Yeah, I can. How you're feeling, man?

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Speaker 3: What what what you're thinking about the weather today?

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Speaker 3: It's been hot.

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Speaker 2: It's been yes, it's been hot.

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Speaker 5: Know, what else has been hot? Uh, the conversations coming

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Speaker 5: out of South Florida. You know I'm talking about UH.

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Speaker 5: All week long, we've been hearing about the two of

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Speaker 5: comments that where the Floor has responses. Let's get a

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Speaker 5: listen so we could get everybody who may have not

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Speaker 5: heard what Tua had to say and what coach Brian

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Speaker 5: what he had to say about his former coach Brian Flores.

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Speaker 6: To put it in simplest terms, if you woke up

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Speaker 6: every morning and I told you you sucked at what

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Speaker 6: How would it make you feel listening to one or

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Speaker 6: regardless of what it is, the good or the bad,

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Speaker 6: And it was basically been what two years of training

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Speaker 5: Now here's what Brian Floor has had to say after

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Speaker 7: Like I'm human, So that hit me in a way

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Speaker 3: Right, TJ. I had two takeaways before I let you

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Speaker 5: One and with what Tua said, it was interesting, he said,

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Speaker 2: Man, This here is a lot to unpack. I know.

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Speaker 4: Oh, both Tua and Brian Flores. I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 4: Tua is one of the nicest people you will every meet,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they they are nice human beings.

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Speaker 3: Yes, very family oriented.

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Speaker 4: And so let's start with Tua.

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Speaker 2: When you hear somebody telling.

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Speaker 2: After a while, it's like, bro, like, what have I

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Speaker 4: Like, I haven't done anything to you for you to

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Speaker 4: to Flores. Brian Flores coached thunder Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 4: from what we've heard, did this to Tom Brady all

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady could handle that.

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Speaker 4: That is a toxic relationship, though to jay To what

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Speaker 2: So this is what happened, though, I'm glad you brought

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Speaker 4: Relationship Tour was in a verbally abusive relationship with Brian Flores.

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Speaker 4: He gets out of that verbally abusive relationship and gets

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Speaker 4: with Mike McDaniel that is nowhere near that. It's a

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Speaker 2: I got to speak out about this.

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Speaker 4: And so I just feel like Brian Flores was coaching

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Speaker 4: I don't understand how Brian Floores didn't get that. But

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Speaker 2: I'm wrong.

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Speaker 5: All right, let me jump in on you right there,

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Speaker 5: because I'm glad you said that. If is that based

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Speaker 3: Clear on that they've done better. They made it. They

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Speaker 4: They've done better just because the environment. LaVar, we're players, Okay,

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Speaker 4: but if Brian Flores talk to you how he taught

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Speaker 5: I've had, I've had that happen, but I've had but

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Speaker 5: you know what happened. I had that happen. You know

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Speaker 5: I told him, if you talk to me like that again, exactly,

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Speaker 5: That man never spoke to me another day in my life.

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Speaker 5: And we had games and listen, we had games left

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Speaker 5: through war Holeman. He talked to Warck. He coached Warck.

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Speaker 5: My film would be up on the screen TJ. And

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Speaker 5: certain dudes are wired differently. I grew up in I

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Speaker 5: So negativity to me was that was fuel. You talk crazy,

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Speaker 4: See that is coming something that is coming from somebody

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I was online.

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Speaker 4: I was a line So Tyrek McAllister, he probably made

440
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Speaker 4: the team yesterday because of the preseason.

441
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Speaker 2: He made the team he played in Canada.

442
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Speaker 4: Was undrafted college free agent, the Raiders, not his first team.

443
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 4: He returns upunt eighty one yards. He basically catches the

444
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Speaker 4: ball with one hand, skirts off for a touchdown. He

445
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Speaker 4: may have made the team because of the preseason. If

446
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Speaker 4: there's no preseason games, Tarrek McAlister may be going back

447
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Speaker 4: to Canada.

448
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Speaker 3: He may still be going back to Canada. He may

449
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Speaker 3: see my whole thing. This is why.

450
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Speaker 2: Worst he'll be on a practice squad. At worst he'll

451
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Speaker 2: be on.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to push back on you because, for what

453
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Speaker 5: it's worth, guys that are getting paid, guys that have

454
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Speaker 5: contracts generally will never get cut when there's a guy

455
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Speaker 5: behind them that performed better than them. I've seen it

456
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Speaker 5: plenty of times where guys outperformed the guy that was

457
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Speaker 5: on the roster already and already had a contract, and

458
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Speaker 5: they didn't make the team.

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Speaker 3: You're not did not make the team.

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Speaker 4: You're not beating a guy out by your preseason performance.

461
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Speaker 2: You're you're not beating the guy starter out. You're not

462
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Speaker 2: gonna be the starter out, but you're gonna You're.

463
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Speaker 3: Gonna might not make the team. You might not make

464
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Speaker 3: the team, not make the team very very rarely. The

465
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Speaker 3: numbers game. They always say numbers game.

466
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Speaker 4: You may not make that team, but you'll make somebody

467
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Speaker 4: else's team because you're you're playing for everybody else. Also,

468
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 4: you're not just playing for your team, You're playing for

469
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Speaker 4: the other thirty one teams. In everybody's dream, Florida State

470
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 4: is playing Georgia Tech right now. Everybody on Florida State's team,

471
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Speaker 4: everybody on Georgia Tech's team dreams and aspirations are to

472
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Speaker 4: make it to the National Football League. We're just talking

473
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Speaker 4: two teams. We're talking two teams. All these players that

474
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Speaker 4: play college football their dream is to make it to

475
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Speaker 4: the National Football League. It's a small fraternity. Seventeen hundred players, LaVar,

476
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Speaker 4: seventeen hundred players. It's a small fraternity.

477
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Speaker 5: And so I'm glad you mentioned that, because, for what

478
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Speaker 5: it's worth, if you're a rookie coming into the league,

479
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 5: your film from college is your resume.

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Speaker 3: You're film in college is your resume.

481
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Speaker 5: So whatever it is I'm seeing you do in practices,

482
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Speaker 5: quarterback position is unique, I will say that, which I

483
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 5: don't think they allow guys to touch quarterbacks too much

484
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Speaker 5: in the pros and real games anymore. You I feel

485
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 5: like there's such a safety halo around them that it's

486
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Speaker 5: questionable as to how how much more nervous a quarterback

487
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Speaker 5: is during the course of a regular game.

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Speaker 3: I'm just being honest. But for the rest of the

489
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Speaker 3: guys out there, every single position, whether you're a punter,

490
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Speaker 3: whether you are a kicker, whether you are.

491
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Speaker 5: A kick returner, a punk returner, I don't really care.

492
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Speaker 5: You get an opportunity in practice to prove your worth.

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Speaker 3: Now, yeah you don't, Yes you do.

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Speaker 2: Yes, guys you the stands. A lot of starters they

495
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Speaker 2: not even going all out in practice.

496
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Speaker 3: You're if you.

497
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Speaker 5: Are a starter and you have earned your starting position,

498
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Speaker 5: it's something that it's a part of the game. It

499
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Speaker 5: is what it is. They've earn't an opportunity to not

500
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Speaker 5: practice at time? Are we not go all out at times?

501
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Speaker 5: I get that, But for the most part, if you're

502
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Speaker 5: an incoming rookie, you're not gonna practice, Well.

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Speaker 3: That gives me what I need to know. You might

504
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Speaker 3: be a gamer, but.

505
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Speaker 4: When wearing practice, when we're in practice and the ball

506
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Speaker 4: is thrown to me down the field and I go

507
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Speaker 4: up to catch it, are they just gonna let me

508
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Speaker 4: catch it in practice or they they gonna beat at

509
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 4: the ball. But in the game, if I go up

510
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 4: to catch it, somebody is gonna somebody that's gonna hit me.

511
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Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna hit me.

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Speaker 5: The better question is are they in position to make

513
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Speaker 5: the play. It's all subjective to make and I may

514
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 5: make the play in practice, you can be in position.

515
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Speaker 3: You prove me wrong in a game situation, then that

516
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: could cost you your job.

517
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Speaker 5: But I'm not trying to come up with all these hypotheticals.

518
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Speaker 5: My whole thing is if I'm not playing my starters

519
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 5: in preseason, I do not need three games to try

520
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 5: to figure out if I'm gonna bring three or four

521
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 5: guys onto an active roster and a couple other guys

522
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Speaker 5: maybe five or six or whatever it may be, onto

523
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Speaker 5: my practice squad.

524
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Speaker 3: I can figure that out in practices.

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Speaker 4: And you know, the practice squad rosters when we played

526
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 4: LeVar was five guys, five, five or six. Yeah, it's

527
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 4: way more than that now, Okay, so there you go

528
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 4: way more.

529
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 2: No, and you want to practice squad pure.

530
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Speaker 4: For the right players, you are a practice squad guy.

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Speaker 3: Don't put that on the fact that I was drafted early.

532
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Speaker 2: It is right there.

533
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 4: I am dealt baby, I'm a mud baby, and you not.

534
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 4: Right now in this situation, you can't. You can't relate it.

535
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Speaker 5: All I'm gonna say is I practiced outside of my

536
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 5: rookie year. I practiced harder and prepared harder than everybody

537
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 5: I did ame rookie year outside of the scene. I'm

538
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 5: saying my preparation of it. But but I hear what

539
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 5: you're saying. But what I'm telling you is is that

540
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Speaker 5: a guy in practice, there's nine on seven half lines,

541
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Speaker 5: there's one on ones. Yes, they're competing. They're not going

542
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 5: to just let you catch the ball in one on ones.

543
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 5: They're competing to get the ball out once or not

544
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 5: on one on ones.

545
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 4: One on ones, that's an offensive drill. I'm winning, okay.

546
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 4: But that defensive player.

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Speaker 5: If it is live man on man, live rep, he's

548
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Speaker 5: on one seven seven.

549
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: He's gonna get beat ninety okay, saying if you.

550
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Speaker 5: Don't beat him ninety three percent of the time, I'm

551
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 5: making my judgments of you off of him.

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00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 3: You not beating him nine time.

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Speaker 4: There are certain players, and i'll say receivers, that they

554
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 4: are just gamers. You throw the ball up, it's two

555
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 4: guys around they come down with the ball, then that's.

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Speaker 5: Something you gotta live with as an organization. That's something

557
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 5: you got if you made the wrong decision. And that

558
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 5: happens all the time.

559
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Speaker 2: It ain't about the organization.

560
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 4: That happens all the time is about this is about

561
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 4: young men trying to live out a dream in these But.

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Speaker 3: There's somebody else that's going to take that job.

563
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 5: So that that that person that practice better than him

564
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 5: doesn't deserve to have the opportunity.

565
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Speaker 3: Because he practiced better and this guy in the game

566
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Speaker 3: played better.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it.

568
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Speaker 4: I'm saying the better player that may win that fifty

569
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Speaker 4: to fifty ball in the game is in getting a

570
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 4: shot that he probably deserves. Yeah, because when you obviously

571
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 4: take one over another, it's like, hey, well one guy's

572
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 4: dream has been shattered.

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Speaker 2: Because if a tree calls in.

574
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Speaker 5: The forest and no one's there to hear it, make

575
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Speaker 5: you fall down, doesn't make a sound to me. You're

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Speaker 5: you're making an argument and a discussion point about these

577
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 5: two dudes, all things given, all things equal, he made

578
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 5: more plays in practice the other guy didn't.

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Speaker 3: If they're both rookies, if they are both rookies, and

580
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 3: this guy is practicing better.

581
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Speaker 5: If I have any doubt that, Okay, this guy may

582
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 5: be more of a gamer than he is a practice guy.

583
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 5: And this guy may be more of a practice guy

584
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Speaker 5: than a gamer. Then I have to choose from the

585
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Speaker 5: film that I have with them for the reason why

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Speaker 5: they're here in the first place. I have to take

587
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 5: that information from the film of which they put down

588
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Speaker 5: as their resume.

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Speaker 3: Which is probably college film.

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Speaker 5: I'm looking at that, and I'm basing my decisions off

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00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 5: of what they did in game situations in college and

592
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Speaker 5: based off of what I see with my own eyes.

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00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 5: You're not You're not getting that. You're saying you're getting

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Speaker 5: that information in preseason games.

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Speaker 2: I called you are you are? You are?

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Speaker 3: Yes? I disagree, strongly disagree.

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Speaker 2: I strongly disagree. That's why we should have got the

599
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: ILOs earlier.

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Speaker 3: Strongly.

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Speaker 4: Oh I wish see, I wish I wish Plexico was

602
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 4: here because he's he's also a silver spoon baby.

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Speaker 2: I'm the only one. I'm the only baby in this one.

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00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 3: Hey, well here, let's bring another mud baby on.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Isaac Glow and Crown, let's get enough day sir,

606
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 5: make sure it's real murdy, and make make sure it's

607
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 5: real dirty.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? What you got well.

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Speaker 1: I got his.

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Speaker 9: I agree with TJ. Back to your official start in

611
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 9: the twenty twenty four college football season at Dublin, Ireland,

612
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Speaker 9: where right now, tenth ranked Florida State has an eight

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Speaker 9: to seven lead over Georgia Tech three point fifteen left

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Speaker 9: to play. In the first quarter, Florida State's Lawrence toa

615
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Speaker 9: filly a twenty eight yard touchdown run four minutes into

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Speaker 9: the game. Brian Courtney then ran in the two point conversion,

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Speaker 9: but Georgia State came back. Haynes King completed a forty

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Speaker 9: two yard pass to Malik Rutherford down to the Florida

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Speaker 9: State thirteen yard line, setting up a one yard touchdown

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Speaker 9: run off a direct snap by Georgia Tech's Zach Pyron.

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Speaker 9: In Major League Baseball Friday night, Shohei Otani reached the

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Speaker 9: forty forty club his fortieth stolen base in the bottom

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Speaker 9: of the fourth inning and then a game winning grand

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Speaker 9: slam in the bottom of the ninth inning for his

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Speaker 9: fortieth home run to beat the Tampa Bay Rays seven

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Speaker 9: to three. As Otani became the fastest in Major League

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Speaker 9: history to reach the forty to forty club finally fell

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Speaker 9: this later TOD and NFL preseason action. The Los Angeles

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Speaker 9: Chargers will be visiting the Dallas Cowboys, and on Friday

630
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Speaker 9: night at the Chargers team hotel, fifteen Chargers players and

631
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Speaker 9: staff members got stuck in an elevator. The elevator got

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Speaker 9: stuck in what is known as a blind shaft, in

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Speaker 9: which the top of the elevator car is at least

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Speaker 9: ten feet below the closest door opening. The Dallas The

635
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Speaker 9: Dallas Urban Search and Rescue Team had to be deployed

636
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Speaker 9: and had to help everyone out through the elevator's ceiling panel.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, LaVar.

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Speaker 9: And TJ, I'm sure you guys would have handled that

639
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 9: situation with great a plumb back to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm taking the stairs from here on now.

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Speaker 4: If that ever happens to me, I'm walking up and

642
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 4: down the stairs, moving forward.

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Speaker 3: Me to baby. Even the fiftieth floor.

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Speaker 2: Fiftieth floor is going to be great exercise to get.

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Speaker 3: Your steps in your luggage, all right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah see, like I said, I strongly disagree with you

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Speaker 5: and ISLA. Thank you for the update. Mud boys. Thank y'all,

648
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you. Hey, listen, kayleb to bobies the

649
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 5: Alabama team. Did they steal or did they not steal?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: We're going to talk about on the other side of break.

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Speaker 5: right after we get off the air. It will be

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Speaker 5: labeled mud Babies.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 5: Okay, speaking of mud babies, one went from the mud

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Speaker 5: to the four star Hotel fast Our Hotel.

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Speaker 3: TJ.

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Speaker 5: Chuck Martin of Miami, Ohio. Hey, coach felt as though

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Speaker 5: there was a theft that took place and that well,

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Speaker 5: if they were the team that the other team was,

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Speaker 5: that they went and had lost this player. In fact,

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Speaker 5: they felt as though losing was the wrong word. Stealing

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Speaker 5: was more appropriate. Let's take a listen of Chuck Martin

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Speaker 5: and what he had to say. Hey, coach Miami of Ohio.

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Speaker 2: All right, special teams lost your kicker.

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Speaker 3: Carter's we didn't lose them. He's at Albama. We know

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Speaker 3: exactly where he's at.

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Speaker 10: Like again, you im mediate people, it's all pretend like, no,

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Speaker 10: Alabama stole our kicker illegally, they illegally recruited. They illegally

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Speaker 10: recruit our kicker and stole them from us, and like

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Speaker 10: that's that's a fact. But that's that's called. But we

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Speaker 10: act like it's not. We live in this la la world, like, hey,

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Speaker 10: let's not talk.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why.

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Speaker 10: Everybody knows what's going on. So, yeah, Alabama stallar kicker.

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Speaker 10: A couple of a couple of other schools try to

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Speaker 10: steal them, but they think, okay, what's the.

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Speaker 5: Question, man, He felt very strongly about, to which Caylin Deboor,

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Speaker 5: Alabama's head coach, had this to say about it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know anything about that. I guess that comment. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean he entered the portal and we reached out

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Speaker 3: to him. So that's how it goes right, So we

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Speaker 3: did everything you're supposed to.

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Speaker 5: I gotta be honest with you. It sounds like mud

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Speaker 5: baby versus silverspoon. Broh, just the tone of its expensiveness

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Speaker 5: and nature of it. It just sounds like, you know,

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Speaker 5: mud babies are mud babies and silverspoon people are.

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Speaker 4: Silverspoon Miami of Ohio, coach listen, man, let me put

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Speaker 4: you up on something. Coach Martin, you had a really

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Speaker 4: good kicker that could go to Alabama, enter the portal

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Speaker 4: and make some money.

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Speaker 2: You should be happy for him.

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Speaker 4: You developed a kicker and he was able to leave

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Speaker 4: and get nil money.

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Speaker 3: Or make sure.

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Speaker 2: You should be happy. You should be happy.

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Speaker 4: You should be happy instead of over here pouting, Oh

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Speaker 4: they stole our.

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Speaker 2: Kicker, like what like where they do this at like

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Speaker 2: they stole up.

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Speaker 4: No, you developed a kid, enabled him to make some

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Speaker 4: nil money. You should be happy for that player. And

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Speaker 4: this is what I'm talking about. These coaches are selfish.

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Speaker 4: They're selfish because they'll make millions, millions of dollars on

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Speaker 4: the backs of these kids. But let a kid look

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Speaker 4: after himself and make a million. Now it's a problem.

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Speaker 4: I bet if another school came to coach Martin and said, hey,

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Speaker 4: we want to offer you a little more that you're

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Speaker 4: making that a Miami of Ohio. Did that school steal

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Speaker 4: him or did he choose to leave?

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Speaker 5: Hey, let me ask you this because I know it's

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Speaker 5: a short This is a short segment, but we've got

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Speaker 5: so much meat on all pause, on all of the

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Speaker 5: bones for these topics that we've been talking about TJ.

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Speaker 5: We look at what junior colleges have represented, right, and

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Speaker 5: junior colleges have always been the de development ground for

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Speaker 5: major colleges to say, Okay, this guy need a.

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Speaker 3: Little bit more time. Boom boom boom bringing in you.

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Speaker 2: Know something about the Juco the jew Co route.

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Speaker 3: Man, you know my son play that lack of one?

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah yeah, and your babies?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, mud baby, there you go. I'm sure he'd love

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Speaker 3: to hear that.

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Speaker 5: Can we get that, mud baby? I'm sure he gonna

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Speaker 5: love that. You see how big you done? Got to

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Speaker 5: make sure you check out the watch that on I

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Speaker 5: G you need to be trained go to him. Hey, listen, though,

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Speaker 5: all I'm saying is, don't you think N I L

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Speaker 5: and Transfer Portal mixed together? That's a mixed drink that

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Speaker 5: says that if you're not a power five that you

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Speaker 5: are now in that sense, a juco type of college

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Speaker 5: where you're developing a player to be taken away to

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Speaker 5: go to a power five.

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Speaker 2: Is that?

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Speaker 3: Can we agree on that at least in the person hour.

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Speaker 2: But that's a good thing for the player.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it may not be a good thing for the

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Speaker 4: coach of that program that's losing a good player. But

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Speaker 4: if it's about developing these kids to get them to

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Speaker 4: the next level, developing these kids to make them better

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Speaker 4: human beings for life, they're going out to make money

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Speaker 4: that they otherwise couldn't make if they were with you.

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Speaker 2: If they could make it with you, they probably would stay.

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Speaker 2: If you, coach, if.

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Speaker 4: It matters to you that much, start a nil fund,

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Speaker 4: donate some of your salary to that fund. I bet

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Speaker 4: you won't do that. I bet you won't do that.

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Speaker 4: And so I don't have a problem with it. Because

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Speaker 4: the player, he's a kicker. If he doesn't make it

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Speaker 4: to the league, he got some nil money. I'm happy

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Speaker 4: for him. Mm hm, Well that's TJ. Hutschman Zata.

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Speaker 3: He has brought some real passion to the table on

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Speaker 3: our one.

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Speaker 5: He hate delivered. You know why, because he's panteen man.

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Speaker 5: When you have hair as smooth and as shiny and

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Speaker 5: as healthy as t J. Hutchman zadas Is, you bring

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Speaker 5: the pain. All right, We're gonna keep bringing it. An

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Speaker 5: hour two.

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