WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, January 7

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<v Speaker 1>It's Thursday, January seventh. This is Jackuars Happy Hour and

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<v Speaker 1>now a guy who coined the phrase Sean who j

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't me? Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on a Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logaman coming up, left, Tony Basely

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<v Speaker 1>busy show today, like going on in Jaguar Land. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot j meetings going on at city Council. Will stay

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<v Speaker 1>off of that for the most part today, but a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of football things happening, and yes, head coach and

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<v Speaker 1>GM searches continue, as does the search for a franchise quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>That search could be coming to an end in April.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll touch on the big name that came out for

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<v Speaker 1>the draft earlier this week, Tony Ball at four thirty today,

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<v Speaker 1>fresh off a meeting with Snoop Dogg. Yes, we will

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<v Speaker 1>get his thoughts that and much more around the Jaguars

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<v Speaker 1>in the Hall of Fame finalists. And then the second

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<v Speaker 1>hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on the network at five o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Loghman with us now and here we go Logs.

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<v Speaker 1>The offseason is here, a long season of football, fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>straight losses, but it's in the rear view now we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to worry about that anymore. It's all about

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<v Speaker 1>the future now, Yeah, it is. Everybody's looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>the decision making and the positions that are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be filled with great anticipation. But just to take a moment, JP,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you and I both have enjoyed working with

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Moron and UH, and we've had had many many

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<v Speaker 1>good moments with Doug, and and appreciate his willingness to

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<v Speaker 1>participate and he was always great to us and UH,

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody wanted this football team to win more, to

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<v Speaker 1>win more than Doug. And so I appreciate him, I

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<v Speaker 1>really do. And I wish him the best. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>his family the best, and I know that he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>land on his feet. Okay, but I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>put that out there because, uh, you know, the position

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of we're in and working with coaches and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there has to be a relationship and it

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<v Speaker 1>has to be on on both sides, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>to give, and Doug has to give to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to make this entertaining and informative for the listeners. And

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<v Speaker 1>and Doug was willing to do that, and I really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate Doug for that, no doubt, and the best to

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<v Speaker 1>him and Helen and the kids. And I'm sure I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna guess he's probably on some voyage somewhere just to

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<v Speaker 1>get away for a little bit. And then, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he will end on his feet sooner rather

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<v Speaker 1>than later as a position coach really whatever he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be in the NFL. I think there will be

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<v Speaker 1>options for him in this league. Yeah, when when you

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<v Speaker 1>sign up to be a coach, I mean, make no

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<v Speaker 1>mistake about it that you know that things are are

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<v Speaker 1>going to change. I mean, that's just the nature of

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<v Speaker 1>the business. And it doesn't matter whether you're at the

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<v Speaker 1>pro level, whether you're at the collegiate level, it's gonna change.

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<v Speaker 1>And and so it's not unexpected. But I think the

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<v Speaker 1>hard part is is being able to adjust and adapt

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<v Speaker 1>in the family at that at home and because you know, look, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>kids want to grow up and and you got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of uh, pure I don't want to say pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>but pure criticism. Oh, you know, they want to have

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<v Speaker 1>an opinion about your dad and about the football team,

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<v Speaker 1>and and sometimes it can be flat out mean and

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<v Speaker 1>and so the kids have coaches sometimes have to put

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<v Speaker 1>up with a lot and and the wives of coaches

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<v Speaker 1>have to put up with a lot and uh and

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<v Speaker 1>so a little a little bit of uh kudos to

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<v Speaker 1>the coaches wives and kids because it's never easy to

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<v Speaker 1>go through a change and uh. And even though that

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<v Speaker 1>it's expected at that position, sometimes it's still very hard

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<v Speaker 1>for the family members. So of course, that was Monday morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Marone was a relief of his duties about nine

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock and then around ten thirty Jaguars owners shot con

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<v Speaker 1>met with the media for the first time in a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, discussing everything football related. And now two openings

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<v Speaker 1>on the football side. The general manager gig has been

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<v Speaker 1>open for a little bit now and now the head

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<v Speaker 1>coach uh job is open as well for the Jaguars.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of his comments will hear a few of

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<v Speaker 1>them throughout the show here of course, But how will

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<v Speaker 1>this flow chart work for the Jacksonville Jaguars was Shotgun

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<v Speaker 1>at the top. A key thing how you know we

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<v Speaker 1>would be structuring this is that I'm going to have

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<v Speaker 1>the general manager and the head coach report directly to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And that way, really, you know, you have the transparency

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<v Speaker 1>and the needs and the concerns of both parties without

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<v Speaker 1>really getting filtered or having a chain of command. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's really what necessitates that you basically hire them

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<v Speaker 1>about the same time. Uh. And really you have a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect alignment, which you need in a winning organization. So

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<v Speaker 1>they have a Jaguars owners shot con earlier this week

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday discussing that float chart. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know of many organizations that do it like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But to have equal conversation with the GM and the

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<v Speaker 1>head coach equals status equals say and separately to the owner. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it eliminates any uh finger pointing or any of that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. If if Shod Khan is the ultimate judge. Yeah, JP,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that set up actually exists, uh more

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<v Speaker 1>than you think in the National Football League because general

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<v Speaker 1>managers for the most part aren't allowed to just hire

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<v Speaker 1>and fire the head coach willy nilly or because they

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<v Speaker 1>wake up on the wrong side of the bed. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they still have to gain approval from ownership. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's probably more common than anything in the National

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<v Speaker 1>Football League. And for me, it makes sense. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if if an interesting statement there when he says that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's no filter that way. Well, I think

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes is it that What can happen is that if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a general manager who hires a head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>and the chain of command works as the coach reports

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<v Speaker 1>of the general manager and then the general manager reports

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<v Speaker 1>to the owner, then this filter that I think Shod

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<v Speaker 1>is referring to can mean that, Look, the general manager

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<v Speaker 1>might think that the players on this football team are

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<v Speaker 1>good enough to win, and that's the coach's fault, and

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<v Speaker 1>coaches are not doing a good enough job, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>coach says that I'm doing a great job of personnel. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's not what the coach is saying, and the

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<v Speaker 1>coach is saying, look, you know, look, I gotta have

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<v Speaker 1>better players to win, And so the filter is removed

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<v Speaker 1>because the coach would report directly an ownership. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's the only way to set it up. And and

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<v Speaker 1>most importantly, the owner has to be involved from the

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<v Speaker 1>standpoint of because if he's not, then there's a lack

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<v Speaker 1>of accountability. And I think there has to be accountability.

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<v Speaker 1>And by dividing enough to where the coach and the

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<v Speaker 1>general manager both report to the to the owner, but

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<v Speaker 1>both of them now have to be accountable, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's the only way to set things up

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<v Speaker 1>in the National Football League to have success. Unless you

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<v Speaker 1>have a general manager like an Ozzie Newsome, who you

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<v Speaker 1>completely respect and completely trust and who has a proven

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<v Speaker 1>track record, the last thing in the world that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do is to hire a general manager. Which

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<v Speaker 1>hiring a general manager is not easy to do. J

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<v Speaker 1>P And what we can get into this a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit further, but think about it, how do you how

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<v Speaker 1>do you go about finding out if a general manager

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<v Speaker 1>is good at what he does when he's never done

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<v Speaker 1>it before. If you hire somebody that's green, you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>So why should that general manager have more power than

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<v Speaker 1>the coach? Which it's a lot easier to find a

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<v Speaker 1>track record with a coach than it is to find

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<v Speaker 1>a track record with a general manager, Right, And we

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<v Speaker 1>saw that last time around with Dave Colde's his first

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<v Speaker 1>time as the GM, and you know, you just don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how things are gonna go, how picks are gonna go,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to go play the games and the

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<v Speaker 1>coaching changes and everything that happened here in those what

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<v Speaker 1>eight years. He was almost almost wish that if if

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<v Speaker 1>you're if you have a job in personnel. And because

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen how the management council and the group that

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<v Speaker 1>they put together and they put recommendations together for guys

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<v Speaker 1>to get jobs for me, why don't they have a

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<v Speaker 1>personnel pot When I say a personnel pots, Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>everybody that's in the personnel department around the league that

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<v Speaker 1>has aspirations of becoming a future general management, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>they put together their own their own separate draft board,

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<v Speaker 1>put their name on it, okay, and it just gets

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<v Speaker 1>put into a file every year and nobody looks at

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<v Speaker 1>it because you don't want to end up sharing that

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<v Speaker 1>information because then obviously you could compromise certain draft for

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<v Speaker 1>But if everybody as an individual, the director of college personnel,

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<v Speaker 1>the director of pro personnel, the director, the head of

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<v Speaker 1>West uh Texas Scouting, I mean, whoever whoever wants to

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<v Speaker 1>put in their list of the draft and put their

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<v Speaker 1>draft order on a sheet of paper before the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>turn it in. And then when the candidates start becoming available,

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<v Speaker 1>ownership can go and say, you know what we're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at hiring Joe Schmo. Well, let's pull up Joe Schmo's

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<v Speaker 1>list over the last five years and how he ranked

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<v Speaker 1>the draft and compared to how the drafts have turned out.

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<v Speaker 1>So that way you'd end up having some information about

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<v Speaker 1>how good personnel people are at number one picking players,

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<v Speaker 1>because the last time I checked, that's the most important

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<v Speaker 1>job description for the position as general managers because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a player driven league. And so for me uh in

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<v Speaker 1>in ownership, why wouldn't they help themselves and hiring people

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<v Speaker 1>and have them do that on an annual basis, And

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<v Speaker 1>then you can have type of history to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to look at and say, this guy really knows his stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>For this guy he doesn't know anything. He's terrible one

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<v Speaker 1>of the other You know how it is though in

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<v Speaker 1>in the business, it's who you know to get you

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<v Speaker 1>in the doory stuff, do the job and do it well,

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<v Speaker 1>but you still have to have those contacts to get

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<v Speaker 1>in the room. Look at Houston, for goodness sakes, what

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<v Speaker 1>happened down there because Serio got hired by basically Easterby.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a search firm and everything, and it's the

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<v Speaker 1>New England connection that got basically that job. From all reports. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not saying that that's not gonna work for

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<v Speaker 1>the Houston Texans. I mean maybe it will, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>that's life, and that's life. That's not just football. That's

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<v Speaker 1>real life too. That happens everywhere, absolutely absolutely. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it may work, it may not. I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know the answer to that. But it's very odd that

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<v Speaker 1>you hire a firm to give you a list of

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<v Speaker 1>names and then all of a sudden, the one that

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<v Speaker 1>you hire is not on that list. I just find

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<v Speaker 1>that really curious. And uh, I think there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people in league circles that are looking at that situation.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't want to say that the Texans are

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<v Speaker 1>the laughing stock of the league, because eventually the truth

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<v Speaker 1>and and the record will speak for itself. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people in the league and that are

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<v Speaker 1>around the league to cover the league that are looking

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<v Speaker 1>at that and sitting there kind of scoffing under their breath.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to start my own search firm. I'd make

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more money us. We'll call it the what

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<v Speaker 1>should we call it? The JP Search Firm? Right? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's catch up. Let me tell you that'll bring him

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<v Speaker 1>in right exactly like that. Um, So that's the way

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<v Speaker 1>it is. So the obviously the interviews are have gone

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<v Speaker 1>on are going on for both roles really simultaneously. As

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<v Speaker 1>you heard Mr Khan there say earlier. Ideally you hire

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<v Speaker 1>them pretty close together, so they are tied together, and

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<v Speaker 1>they whoever's hired first probably has a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a say and the other person vice versa. That's probably

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<v Speaker 1>how this will work. Yeah, I think that uh and

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<v Speaker 1>and Sean talked about that, and he said that, you know, ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>do you like to do it together because you if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a general manager, you want to know who the

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<v Speaker 1>coach is gonna be, And if you're a coach, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to know who the general manager is going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And you'd like to have maybe some familiarity there to

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<v Speaker 1>where there's gonna be a real positive working uh. Two

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<v Speaker 1>guys working together, a little bit of energy and synergy,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that's the in a perfect world. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, if you have all of

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<v Speaker 1>if if that happens, then the team needs to move,

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<v Speaker 1>right right a passage, Okay, as a new owner coming

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<v Speaker 1>into the league, you know, the advisors, consultants, whatever, So

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<v Speaker 1>you know we did that this time around. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I have a much better sense myself, so you know

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the key decision maker. But we do have people

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<v Speaker 1>these people, so um, you know they will be involved

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're looking at it. Welcome back Jaguar's happy hour.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Jaguars owner's shot Khan Monday morning. When asked who

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<v Speaker 1>is helping you with the search for GM and head

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<v Speaker 1>coaching J P. Shadrick with the Jeff Logham, we are

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<v Speaker 1>we are not among those in that group. I'll say

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<v Speaker 1>that Jeff, you're looking at it. I love that line. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and and so it should be. Look, he's the owner

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<v Speaker 1>of the football team and and that gives him the

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<v Speaker 1>right to make the decisions. And I think, uh that

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<v Speaker 1>he has learned a lot and I think he will

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<v Speaker 1>make a better decision this time around. And obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>decision was influenced from a lot of input that he

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<v Speaker 1>got the first time around. And and he's right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>after a while of being an owner in the National

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<v Speaker 1>Football League, you have a an ability to learn, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's a very smart man. Otherwise he wouldn't be as

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<v Speaker 1>successful as he has been. And I'm sure that he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to apply some of the the recipes that have

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<v Speaker 1>gotten him where he is in the automotive parts business

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<v Speaker 1>and apply that to what what he knows now about

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<v Speaker 1>football and work to make that a success because I

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<v Speaker 1>look at he wants to win. I mean, make no

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<v Speaker 1>mistake about it. When you commit any resource that is

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<v Speaker 1>necessary for the success of a football team. And trust

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<v Speaker 1>me when I say this, there is nothing that has

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<v Speaker 1>ever been asked for by coaches or staff that has

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<v Speaker 1>ever been turned down by Shan Khan as it relates

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<v Speaker 1>to the success of this team on the field. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty amazing because that's not how it always is

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<v Speaker 1>around the National Football League acts. Those that were in

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego for many years as some of the folks

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<v Speaker 1>that might be in Ohio and uh sinc. The NATI mainly,

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<v Speaker 1>and and you will find out that there are other

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<v Speaker 1>owners that aren't quite as willing to spend to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to get results. But Shan Khan is not one

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<v Speaker 1>of them in that category. He is very willing. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that Mr Khan has learned and we

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<v Speaker 1>all have learned if we didn't know, and now we

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<v Speaker 1>certainly do know, that you need a franchise quarterback on

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<v Speaker 1>your roster. And a few times Mr Cohn discussed this

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday, and if you're watching on Jaguars dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>on the video portion of our broadcast today, you'll see

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<v Speaker 1>them on your screen a couple of the excerpts from that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they have the ability now to make a

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<v Speaker 1>choice and it's going to define the franchise moving forward.

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<v Speaker 1>The last eight years we haven't had a franchise quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's very important, said Mr Khan, So

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<v Speaker 1>he he understands that, he gets it. Also, if there

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<v Speaker 1>was any doubt at all what's gonna happen at number

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<v Speaker 1>one overall, that's all gone now. Yeah, yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's still I mean, is there a level of intrigue

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<v Speaker 1>that could it not be Trevor Lawrence? Could could it

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<v Speaker 1>be somebody different? I think that possibility is there. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it likely probably not, but the possibility still exists. So

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<v Speaker 1>the intrigue I think will well stare still carry on

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<v Speaker 1>for a little bit. But I mean, I think, in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, Trevor Lawrence is the guy. And and I've

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<v Speaker 1>just started to watch a little film on him this week,

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<v Speaker 1>and everything that I've seen so far has been JP

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<v Speaker 1>has been fantastic. He's got the athleticism to move around

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<v Speaker 1>the pocket, he has the athleticism to move out of

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<v Speaker 1>the pocket. He has arm strength, he has accuracy, he

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<v Speaker 1>has a coolness about him. I mean, there's very little

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<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't do well. Uh. I haven't had the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to watch some of the other quarterbacks, so I

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<v Speaker 1>will and I will make this kind of a weekly

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<v Speaker 1>report based on some of the film that I watched

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<v Speaker 1>as as we head towards the month of April. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a reason why everybody's been talking about number sixteen for

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<v Speaker 1>Clemson since before he showed up in Clemson, South Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the top high school player coming out and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the top recruits, but he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>Clempson the whole time. There was really not much of

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<v Speaker 1>a debate. And then he gets to a Clemson and

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<v Speaker 1>performs in a big, big way a national championship in

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<v Speaker 1>his first season there in eighteen. He was the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>m v P of that national championship game, the Heisman

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<v Speaker 1>Trophy runner up this year. I don't know of many

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<v Speaker 1>people that expected him to finish that high in the

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<v Speaker 1>voting this year, but he did, and Clemson was in

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<v Speaker 1>the playoff again this year. They lost, of course to

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio State last week. But um, he's He's lived up

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<v Speaker 1>to expectations and beyond already throughout his career, and it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like everybody in the NFL thinks that's going to continue. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a winner and that's the most important thing about

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<v Speaker 1>playing the position of quarterback is winning. And so that's

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<v Speaker 1>what he's done, and he's done it at all levels.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the thing that also makes him intriguing from

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<v Speaker 1>a coaching standpoint and so attractive from a coaching standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>coaches love to have young quarterback that have mobility, and

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<v Speaker 1>the reason they like that is that it allows them

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<v Speaker 1>to do some things with a young quarterback to still

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<v Speaker 1>have success but without effecting a young quarterback that completely

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<v Speaker 1>operate from within the pocket. So in other words, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you got a young player just like uh Kyler Murray

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<v Speaker 1>is down in Arizona and all of a sudden he

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<v Speaker 1>can't get to the third progression just because he's not

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<v Speaker 1>mature enough and he's he's not experienced enough to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>Then his legs allows him to scramble by time to

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<v Speaker 1>maybe get to that third option or his fourth option

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<v Speaker 1>or when it comes to scramble rules and all schedule play.

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<v Speaker 1>So coaches like that because it doesn't force somebody to

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<v Speaker 1>sit in the pocket and to get hammered because they're

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<v Speaker 1>not ready to get to that third progression yet. So coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, And if you were to ask any coach

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<v Speaker 1>look and she said, hey, look, you can have your

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<v Speaker 1>choice of any type of young quarterback. What do you want?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the first words out of their mouth was

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<v Speaker 1>be I want a franchise quarterback. And then then they

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<v Speaker 1>would start to talk about the traits and the traits

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<v Speaker 1>I think arm strength, accuracy, smart, intelligent, and then probably

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<v Speaker 1>when you get down past some of the obvious things,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the coach will tell you mobility and the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to create with the legs to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>allow this young quarterback to have success while he's learning

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<v Speaker 1>on the job. And uh, and I think that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think John Elway was a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>that way, and that he was mobile and could do

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<v Speaker 1>things with his legs and tell he learned. Mark Burnell

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<v Speaker 1>is another perfect example of a of a quarterback that

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<v Speaker 1>is young and makes things happen with his legs and

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, you lay over time he

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<v Speaker 1>becomes more of a pocket passer and then relies more

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<v Speaker 1>on his arm. And with Trevor, Lawrence the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>run a lot of the read options stuff right out

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<v Speaker 1>of the gate and which will get him on the

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<v Speaker 1>field and plane and we'll make the offense multiple and

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<v Speaker 1>multiple threats. Again the defense I think makes him very attractive.

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<v Speaker 1>And are the other quarterbacks that are available to his

0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 1>level as far as having that type ability, I think

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 1>they're pretty good, but I don't think they're at that level.

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Fields in Ohio State has that mobility as well. He's

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 1>able to doesn't use it as much as Trevor does,

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:20.119
<v Speaker 1>but you know, twenty nineteen, Lawrence ran for five hundred

0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:22.359
<v Speaker 1>sixty three yards that season. I mean, that's that's a

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 1>pretty significant number for a quarterback. Yeah, and you're and

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.239
<v Speaker 1>you're look, you're not looking for a guy that can

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:32.320
<v Speaker 1>be Lamar Jackson. I mean, it just doesn't mean that

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:35.359
<v Speaker 1>those guys don't come along very often. And and I

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 1>think the expectation with Lamar Jackson right now is that now,

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:41.199
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, he's an absolute threat with his legs,

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:44.159
<v Speaker 1>But sooner or later, Lamar Jackson has to learn to

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:47.320
<v Speaker 1>be better from the pocket. And because right now he

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 1>has the reputation is that if he does not have

0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:51.879
<v Speaker 1>a lead, he is not a good quarterback. And it

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:54.479
<v Speaker 1>makes him do something that he doesn't want to do,

0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:57.680
<v Speaker 1>and it makes the offensive coordinator do things that they

0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:00.679
<v Speaker 1>don't want to do. And so in a perfect world,

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>like Lamar Jackson, Okay, look he's running with great success

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 1>the first two years. The next progression for him is

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.679
<v Speaker 1>to be better in the pocket and less rushing yards

0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 1>and become twice as many passing yards as as a quarterback.

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:16.119
<v Speaker 1>So and I think they look at Trevor Lawrence is

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 1>athletic and and but he's got a lot of other

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 1>great skill sets that are going to be very beneficial

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.440
<v Speaker 1>for any team, and will he be a franchise guy.

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I hope so. I hope so because JP Unfortunately, we've

0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 1>seen first overall pick quarterback that have not worked out

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 1>in NFL history. So there, I don't think there's anything

0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:38.680
<v Speaker 1>that you would call a sure thing, but he would

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 1>certainly say that maybe he's as close to a shut

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>thing as possible, But again, there are no sure things. Well,

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I'll say this, Justin Fields put on a fantastic performance

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:51.879
<v Speaker 1>in the Sugar Bowl the other night, and Alabama will

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:54.159
<v Speaker 1>have her handsful if he's ready to go Monday with

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:57.879
<v Speaker 1>those ribs, He'll they'll have their hands full against Justin

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Fields in the National Championship Games, six touchdowns, fighting through

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 1>the rib injury and really showed a gutsy effort in

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:07.880
<v Speaker 1>that game. And he's flashed obviously all year, the two

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 1>in that game last Friday. You know that that seems

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 1>to be because he's throwing down fields so much and

0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 1>hitting all these deep plays. That's kind of where he's

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 1>been a lot of the year. It's not like he's

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 1>having to throw fifty times a game because they're they're

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>blowing people out a lot of times when they play well.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, uh give him credit because the year before

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>they got hammered right, and so, K you motivate a

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 1>football team, you motivate an individual, and an individual that

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>the week before didn't play very well and was widely

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 1>criticized for his level of play the week before, And

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 1>they come into this game against Clemson and he only

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>has six games under his belt. And as them as

0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:56.160
<v Speaker 1>a team, they only have six games under their belt.

0:27:56.680 --> 0:28:00.199
<v Speaker 1>So for them to play how they did and and

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:02.959
<v Speaker 1>I mean as domint as they were for me, the

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<v Speaker 1>way that Ohio States defense played against Clemson, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the way which was fantastic, but most importantly the way

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<v Speaker 1>that Ohio State's offense kept Clemson's defense off balance with

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<v Speaker 1>with manipulating tempo and changing tempo. That was impressive to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that the Clemson Tigers defensively, they got out

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<v Speaker 1>coached the Ohio State's offense. They absolutely put them their

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 1>foot on their on on Clemson's neck and held it

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 1>there the entire game. And so credit the Ohio State

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>offensive coaches for dictating tempo and catching the Clemson defense

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>off guard and multiple occasions where Clemson wasn't even get

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 1>lined up in and and and even even when they

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>had their starting linebacker who eventually got forgot tossed for targeting,

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 1>which I thought was the proper call recording the collegiate rules,

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 1>even though they lost him, even when they had him,

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 1>they were having a hard time with the tempo Ohio State.

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 1>And it helps when you have a run game, trace

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 1>servant can can bring it on the ground for them

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 1>to balance it out of it. Clemson has great round

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 1>and ground game, right I mean, but where State I

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>mean they put a put a check on that and

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 1>that was it. Man, that was done. You know, so good,

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>good entertaining game, And congratulations to Ohio State. And and

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Clemson will have to reload, and and it's gonna be

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 1>difficult to reload without a quarterback and is of the

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 1>stature of of Trevor wat You like the guy they

0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 1>have that's coming on deck. But we'll we'll see what

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 1>happens down the line for Clemson. Let's come back, and

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Boselli will join us fresh off a visit with

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<v Speaker 1>Snoop Dogg. Yes, that's right, I said it. We will

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<v Speaker 1>Jaguars Left Tackle and Hall of Fame finalist Tony Basselli. Congratulations.

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it's the first time we've spoken to you

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<v Speaker 1>on the air since the announcement of the finalist again,

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<v Speaker 1>so congrats, Tony, what's up? Thank you? J Pree. All

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<v Speaker 1>good here in Ponto Vidra. You know, just Sam Old Samuel.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little starting to get all chili here in

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<v Speaker 1>Florida for me, But outside of that, all is good.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I've got same old, same old. You're hanging

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 1>out with Snoop Dogg. What in the world. Come on,

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 1>let's take a look on Jaguars dot com. This is

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:12.279
<v Speaker 1>from Mega Parak, the Chief Legal Officers Instagram. Last night

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 1>a E W Dynamite at Daily's Place, all Elite Wrestling,

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Snoop Dogg in attendance and Tony Boselli in attendance as well.

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, you guys go all the way back to

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:25.840
<v Speaker 1>like ninety three in in l a right. Well, you

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 1>know he is uh from Long Beach Pauli. Uh and

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 1>his one of his buddies from Long Beach Paully was

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 1>William Guinness, who was We're in the same recruiting class

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:39.359
<v Speaker 1>and played a s C together. So we go back.

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Uh it's not like I know Snoop well or anything

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:46.840
<v Speaker 1>like that. Um and so, but he, uh, he found

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:49.319
<v Speaker 1>out I was there and he said he grabbed Megan, said, hey,

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 1>tell Tony come back to the trailer. So I went

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 1>back and took my daughter and Mike Perkins kids and

0:34:56.719 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 1>got some pictures and uh, he's a funny dude now,

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 1>but he's a good dude. He was great, you know what.

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. But he's a big star. Everyone knows that.

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:08.279
<v Speaker 1>But he was great with the kids taking pictures, you know,

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:11.359
<v Speaker 1>really engaging and he was. It was great. It was fun.

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 1>He's tall. We're looking at the photo. I mean, you're

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 1>at six eight, six nine and he's right there with you. Yeah,

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm six seven, six seven and a half. I mean

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 1>he's a good six four I mean, and but he

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 1>might not weigh more than a buck. You're talking about

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 1>about pretty wiry. He's pretty wiry. So Tony, I remember

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 1>uh years ago and uh when I was playing with

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 1>the Jets and we were on our way for a

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 1>West coast trip, and so we flew out there on

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 1>a Friday, and so on Saturday, we were on our

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 1>way to USC's campus. And I don't remember the year,

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 1>but we're on and you were probably there on campus

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:51.720
<v Speaker 1>of the time. But we're on our way to USC

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 1>campus to have a practice, and all of a sudden

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 1>we turn on Compton, I guess is the name of

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 1>the road, And all of a sudden, a bunch of

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:04.800
<v Speaker 1>guys on our team started freaking out, going, snoop, snoop,

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 1>look at snoop. I'm going, what in the world's going on?

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:11.239
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't even know who snoop? What at the

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 1>top and a couple of guys and I look, and

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 1>all I see is a Bentley, And I mean, you

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 1>know it's a I mean it's a nice Bentley. I

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:22.480
<v Speaker 1>mean it's got the shine to it, and the windows

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:25.439
<v Speaker 1>rolled down, the music is playing, and and I see

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 1>a guy that everybody's telling me, all my teammates are

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 1>telling me that's Snoop Dogg. I'm like, all right, that's cool.

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess I don't know who Snoop Dogg is, but

0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I think it's cool. Yeah, and that was probably early nineties, Jeff.

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 1>I actually think I remember, you know, when you guys

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:41.840
<v Speaker 1>came out because it was a big deal. You know,

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 1>you're a college kid playing football and the Jets are

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:46.959
<v Speaker 1>coming out to practice your feel and you probably turned

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:50.400
<v Speaker 1>down to Figaroa if you're getting off getting off the

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 1>highway and heading to the campus there. So um yeah,

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:56.440
<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, it was fun. You know, it was my

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 1>first time going to a w live. I've seen it

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:03.319
<v Speaker 1>on TV, you know obviously, and uh and what a

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>great I'll tell you what, Tony con has done. An

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 1>amazing job. It is a show. Um. You know, I

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:12.359
<v Speaker 1>was a huge wrestling fan as a kid, but I

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 1>haven't watched it, you know, in years outside of you know,

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:18.359
<v Speaker 1>until Tony started a w So you know, obviously, as

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 1>an owner of the Jaguards, you pay attention and you

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 1>watch here and there and and what how what the

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 1>funny thing is, I was watching it one night a

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:28.839
<v Speaker 1>while ago and my my eleven year old daughter comes

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:31.360
<v Speaker 1>in and she sat there for an hour with me,

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>and it was just mesmerized and she was like, Dad,

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:37.279
<v Speaker 1>this is awesome. And she's like, I'm like, would you

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 1>like to go to one of these? Sometimes she goes,

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I would love to go do it? Do one. So

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 1>the surprise was I took you know, I took her there.

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:47.279
<v Speaker 1>My other kids were so mad, not because they wanted

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 1>to go to wrestling. They were so mad because they're

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 1>older than college and everything, like she gotta meet Snoop

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Dogg and uh, but it was great the production. I mean,

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 1>it is entertainment, and uh, it was fun. It was

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 1>a fun night. It's always good to do stuff with

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:04.319
<v Speaker 1>your kids. And um, I mean, jpn you dog have kids,

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>but Jeff, you know that just doing those special moment

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:07.959
<v Speaker 1>with your kids. That was my favorite part to seeing

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:10.279
<v Speaker 1>her smile and she thought it was so cool that

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 1>she gotta meet Snoop Dogg. Um. All right, So it's

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>not a question because I'm just real quick, what was

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Snoop Dogg doing with a w I know that Snoop

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Dogg is on a TV show with the head wrestling guy,

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Cody Rhodes. They yeah, Cody, Cody Rhodes, And so is

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 1>that part of what was going on while he's in town. Yeah,

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I think so. That just probably promotion of both a

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 1>w and Snoop show show more than anything. Um he

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:42.239
<v Speaker 1>came out and did a little wrestling bit with uh

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Cody Rhodes and jumped off the top. I'll tell you what.

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I was impressed. He got to the top of the

0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 1>rope and jumped off and did one of his you

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 1>know things, uh body slam or whatever it was called.

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:53.759
<v Speaker 1>And it was I was afterwards, I was making I

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:55.560
<v Speaker 1>was giving a hard time and said, Snoopy looked little

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:57.319
<v Speaker 1>shaky there on the top of the ropes and he said,

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:00.400
<v Speaker 1>oh man, that was fine. And he went on to

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 1>share that he wanted to do that because his favorite

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 1>wrestler growing up was Jimmy Fly Jimmy Uh yep, and

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:13.839
<v Speaker 1>uh so he went, it was great, it was fun.

0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:15.800
<v Speaker 1>It was a fun night. We got it got a

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 1>little chilly out there. That's why my code on. But

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:20.279
<v Speaker 1>it was fun. That's pretty awesome. That's that's a heck

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:22.759
<v Speaker 1>of a photograph. I'll say that for sure. And uh,

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I hope you don't mind us sharing that on the

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:28.360
<v Speaker 1>protract because it's it's out there publicly anyway, it's already,

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:32.360
<v Speaker 1>it's on Instagram. It's out there all right, So so

0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:34.920
<v Speaker 1>wait minute before we go on here. I mean, we're

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:37.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna have some fun here because you know, last show

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:39.879
<v Speaker 1>or last the show that's wrapped up the season here.

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I grew up a big wrestling fan, and uh, you know,

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 1>back in the day we had in Washington, d C.

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 1>We had DC twenty, which used to show some of

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:54.239
<v Speaker 1>the old school wrestlers and Bob Backlin and obviously on

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 1>during the giant guys like that. Growing up as a kid,

0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:02.760
<v Speaker 1>who is your favorite wrestler, you know, I mean, I

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was probably Holk Hogan because I remember

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:09.160
<v Speaker 1>going to Nicol mcnichol's arena, the Old Arena and Denver

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and they had a big event and I'll never forget

0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 1>he was fighting I think the Junkyard Dog, and uh

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:18.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's also it's so beautifully done, and he

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:20.440
<v Speaker 1>did the thing where he looks like he's almost beaten,

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 1>and there they raised they raised his hand in the

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 1>first two times he would drop and then the third

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:28.400
<v Speaker 1>time he hold it up and start shaking. Yeah, I

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 1>mean that that never he was like just like just

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:34.280
<v Speaker 1>in my mind, it's just like written in my brain

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:36.640
<v Speaker 1>that I'll never have that image. And and so I

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 1>loved him I and I also loved Macho Man and

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Randy Savage was I thought was great, you know, And

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:48.279
<v Speaker 1>I remember the one I disliked the most was, um,

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:50.800
<v Speaker 1>what was it, Roddy Roddy Piper or Rodney Rodney Piper

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 1>whatever his name was. Oh yeah, and so I don't

0:40:56.239 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 1>know it, Roddy Piper, fantastic stick the best. It was fun.

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:04.839
<v Speaker 1>It was a fun night. And I give, you know,

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I give him credit. I give I mean, they're competing

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 1>with you know, an entity in w W has been

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 1>around forever and they're doing great. It's a it's a

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 1>Tony conn has done a good job of that thing

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 1>is you know. So if you ever get a chance

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:19.320
<v Speaker 1>to go to the day's place when they're here, I

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know how much longer they're here, or what the

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 1>schedules or anything like that, but it's a it's a

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:26.759
<v Speaker 1>it's a good it's a fun, entertaining night, all right,

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:29.400
<v Speaker 1>j P. Who's yours? It's gotta be right in that

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 1>same ballpark, Hulk Hogan. But I always enjoyed the interviews.

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Mean Gene Oakerland and the interview. Those are fantastic. Come

0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:42.360
<v Speaker 1>on now, the facial expressions he had with some of

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the comments are so good. And I will say Jim Ross,

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 1>who does the commentary now is a long time w

0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:51.759
<v Speaker 1>W E w w F announcers. He does a w

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:53.680
<v Speaker 1>now does a great job. And how about this this

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:58.239
<v Speaker 1>this summer, um, Doug Barrone and I went out to

0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:00.720
<v Speaker 1>see Jim Ross. That is a part. But at Jack's

0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Beach and grill out steak for two hours. I didn't

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 1>get a word in edgewise with those two. That was

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 1>an afternoon to remember. I'll say, Doug bar Ross, let's

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:13.360
<v Speaker 1>come back in a moment. We'll get into the GM

0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:16.520
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<v Speaker 1>until you're aware of that. So, you know, striking the

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<v Speaker 1>Baselli Jaguars Happy Hour continues, Tony, what's your gut saying?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it gonna be a bit? Are they coming in hot?

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Are there there's obviously interviewing. We've seen the list of

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<v Speaker 1>candidates on the GM and the head coaching side at

0:46:51.160 --> 0:46:54.920
<v Speaker 1>least that are getting interviews or have been interviewed. What's

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<v Speaker 1>your gut saying about maybe a timetable. Oh, I would

0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:02.239
<v Speaker 1>think in the next couple of weeks, you know at

0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 1>the soonest to be next week. Um, but I think

0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna go through the process. I mean they're interviewing

0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:10.759
<v Speaker 1>people right now. Uh, you know obviously of the urban

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:13.880
<v Speaker 1>news out there. Um, that I think is real. I

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:16.279
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's his job or anything like that, but

0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:18.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it's real and they're gonna go through that process.

0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:22.200
<v Speaker 1>And then they're also interviewing GM so uh yeah, I

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:26.959
<v Speaker 1>mean two weeks, maybe three weeks max. Because I think

0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:31.200
<v Speaker 1>once the first team hires a coach, the dominoes start following,

0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:34.120
<v Speaker 1>because you you you know, if you have multiple teams

0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:36.399
<v Speaker 1>wanted the same guy, or they stack ranked them the same,

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:38.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's where you start seeing a little bit

0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:42.440
<v Speaker 1>of a competitive nature. Come out. So uh, that's you know,

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:45.120
<v Speaker 1>just a guess. You know, I think Shod was clear

0:47:45.160 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 1>that he would like to in a perfect world do

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:50.040
<v Speaker 1>these both at the same time. Um, They're both gonna

0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:52.880
<v Speaker 1>report to him. They're gonna be on equal footing. UM

0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:54.840
<v Speaker 1>with him being a part of the decision making process,

0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:58.600
<v Speaker 1>especially on the big deals around player acquisition and contracting

0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:01.560
<v Speaker 1>and and if they asked, you know, they end up

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 1>cutting a player or something. My guess is that doesn't

0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:06.120
<v Speaker 1>mean if he's you know, they're cutting the you know,

0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:09.560
<v Speaker 1>the fifty three guy on the roster that Sean needs

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 1>to know every single little bit about that. Maybe he does,

0:48:12.840 --> 0:48:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but you know, the big decision they

0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:16.319
<v Speaker 1>think you saying, Listen, you know, I'm right in the

0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:18.680
<v Speaker 1>checks and this is my team, and I want to

0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 1>understand what we're doing. And I'm gonna trust the you know,

0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:23.080
<v Speaker 1>the GM and the head coach to make the decisions.

0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:24.920
<v Speaker 1>But I would like to be looped in when those

0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:29.600
<v Speaker 1>big decisions are being made. Right. So we'll see what

0:48:29.680 --> 0:48:33.480
<v Speaker 1>happens in the next days weeks ahead on both fronts.

0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:37.320
<v Speaker 1>And you know, we we touched earlier Tony on the

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:41.640
<v Speaker 1>quarterback position. What Mr Kahn said about that spot, guys,

0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and is is that you Tony? Are you ringing? Is

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:48.720
<v Speaker 1>that Jeff? Who is that? Was mine? I off? Sorry,

0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the world is going on over there, Indra today my fault. Wow,

0:48:55.320 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 1>So I didn't I didn't sign my uh in silence

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:03.960
<v Speaker 1>my own. That's like an old school ring right there.

0:49:04.160 --> 0:49:06.279
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a flip phone? That's pretty cool? What

0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 1>is that? No, it's a normal it's an iPhone, not

0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:13.400
<v Speaker 1>a flip phone. All right, that's good. So quarterback position

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:16.960
<v Speaker 1>obviously priority number one for whoever is hired lugs. We've

0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:18.719
<v Speaker 1>touched on that earlier. I mean, you've got to start

0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:21.880
<v Speaker 1>there because you don't have this opportunity to have a

0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:25.000
<v Speaker 1>blank slate like this is an organization for ownershot con.

0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean this is probably the only time, hopefully the

0:49:29.040 --> 0:49:30.759
<v Speaker 1>only time this will ever happen. Will you have the

0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:33.120
<v Speaker 1>number one pick and a new head coach and GM

0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, Yeah, I mean you hope. I

0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:40.399
<v Speaker 1>mean that, Uh, it means you have you're not doing

0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 1>very well when you have all those three things kind

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:45.680
<v Speaker 1>of co inside. But I think it's pretty important too

0:49:45.800 --> 0:49:49.799
<v Speaker 1>that that the Jaguars find it. In my opinion, uh,

0:49:49.840 --> 0:49:53.399
<v Speaker 1>an offensive coach. And the reason I say that is

0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:57.239
<v Speaker 1>if if you hire a defensive coach, and look, trust me,

0:49:57.400 --> 0:49:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm a defensive guy, and I think there's some really

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 1>really good defensive guys out there. But if you end

0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:07.759
<v Speaker 1>up hiring a defensive guy and then you hire an

0:50:07.760 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator and all of a sudden you start having

0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:15.480
<v Speaker 1>great success, your likelihood of losing that offensive coordinator to

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:18.279
<v Speaker 1>a head coaching job is pretty high. I mean, look

0:50:18.280 --> 0:50:21.360
<v Speaker 1>at all the hires that have happened recently and that

0:50:21.480 --> 0:50:24.160
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of offensive guys to where if you

0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:27.040
<v Speaker 1>can find a way to get a great leader as

0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:30.239
<v Speaker 1>a head coach, which is the most important thing, but

0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:34.640
<v Speaker 1>also that his side of expertise and football is on

0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:37.120
<v Speaker 1>the offensive side of the ball, it's better. I'm not

0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:39.080
<v Speaker 1>saying it's the only way, but I think it's better

0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:43.160
<v Speaker 1>then that way that you can have continuity with a

0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:46.480
<v Speaker 1>young quarterback throughout his growth cycle. Because of all a sudden,

0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:50.000
<v Speaker 1>you have a defensive coach and have a coordinator and

0:50:50.000 --> 0:50:52.600
<v Speaker 1>then you start getting hot and Trevor Lawrence is playing well,

0:50:52.719 --> 0:50:55.759
<v Speaker 1>then you know what. Unfortunately, the hottest candidate in the

0:50:55.800 --> 0:50:58.839
<v Speaker 1>league would be the guy that tutoring Trevor Lawrence, because

0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:02.399
<v Speaker 1>everybody's gonna want that person to be tutoring their first

0:51:02.480 --> 0:51:05.040
<v Speaker 1>round or first overall pick quarterback. And so the team

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:07.160
<v Speaker 1>is gonna have an opening that's gonna be drafting a

0:51:07.200 --> 0:51:08.960
<v Speaker 1>quarterback very high in the top of the first round,

0:51:09.080 --> 0:51:11.160
<v Speaker 1>is going to look for their next break head coach

0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:13.640
<v Speaker 1>that's got an offensive mind. So I think it's just

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:16.239
<v Speaker 1>something to consider. And I don't think, like I said,

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:18.279
<v Speaker 1>I want to repeat this, it's not the only way

0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:20.120
<v Speaker 1>to go about it. But I think it's certainly something

0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:24.880
<v Speaker 1>that I would lean towards. Yeah, I think, Jeff, you

0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:28.239
<v Speaker 1>said the most important part, you know, of what you

0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:32.640
<v Speaker 1>just said is leadership, you know, And I would agree

0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:34.920
<v Speaker 1>like if lean if you want to lean towards the

0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:37.759
<v Speaker 1>offensive mindset of the guy who's head coach, I'm fine

0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:40.200
<v Speaker 1>with that as well. To me, it's about leadership. Get

0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:42.480
<v Speaker 1>the right leader, and it's not you gotta have the

0:51:42.560 --> 0:51:44.600
<v Speaker 1>right leader to the head coach. It's such a critical position.

0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:48.160
<v Speaker 1>They set the tone for the organization, they set the culture. Um,

0:51:48.239 --> 0:51:50.040
<v Speaker 1>you need the right leader at the GM as well,

0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:52.160
<v Speaker 1>because those two have to be lockstep, they have to

0:51:52.200 --> 0:51:54.560
<v Speaker 1>be in it together. They have to have a similar philosophy, beliefs,

0:51:54.719 --> 0:51:57.200
<v Speaker 1>convictions and everything else. So to me, the number of

0:51:57.200 --> 0:51:58.719
<v Speaker 1>people have asked me, like, what what do you want

0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:01.799
<v Speaker 1>to head coach? One thing, I want a leader. I

0:52:01.840 --> 0:52:04.319
<v Speaker 1>want a guy who can lead the organization. Who can

0:52:04.560 --> 0:52:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you know can because at the end of the day,

0:52:06.640 --> 0:52:08.840
<v Speaker 1>that guy's job. He has to lead fifty three guys

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:11.480
<v Speaker 1>on the roster active roster, and he has to lead

0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:14.279
<v Speaker 1>a coaching staff, and he has to be consistent in

0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:18.680
<v Speaker 1>in you know, forward thinking and you know in dynamic

0:52:18.760 --> 0:52:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and all those different things. But it's all about leadership.

0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:24.000
<v Speaker 1>And to just point, if you get a guy who's

0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:26.040
<v Speaker 1>a great leader and leads to the offensive side of

0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:29.960
<v Speaker 1>the ball, that's a plus. Alright, guys, So it is

0:52:30.800 --> 0:52:34.360
<v Speaker 1>that that'll do it for our Jaguars discussion today because

0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:38.680
<v Speaker 1>it is Super wild Card weekend in the National Football

0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:41.600
<v Speaker 1>League and our last chance, Tony to catch up with

0:52:41.640 --> 0:52:44.759
<v Speaker 1>you before you're headed to Pittsburgh right to do the

0:52:44.800 --> 0:52:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Brown Steelers game on Sunday night, the nightcap on the

0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:53.200
<v Speaker 1>second day of wild card weekend. Um, that should be

0:52:53.200 --> 0:52:54.799
<v Speaker 1>a fun game. We'll get to that one coming up.

0:52:54.800 --> 0:52:58.799
<v Speaker 1>But we've got some division rivals involved this weekend. The

0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Colts are at the Hills on Saturday one o'clock. What's

0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:07.279
<v Speaker 1>your gut on this one, Tony Well, the Bills are

0:53:07.280 --> 0:53:10.000
<v Speaker 1>the hottest Steven football in my opinion, I mean outside,

0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess you argue Green Bay, but Josh

0:53:11.920 --> 0:53:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Allen's playing such a high level. Uh, you know, They've

0:53:15.120 --> 0:53:19.399
<v Speaker 1>got a dynamic passing game, They've got a good offensive line. Defensively, Um,

0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:22.279
<v Speaker 1>there one weakness if you look at just statistically and

0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:25.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of games, is that run defense. So that'll be interesting.

0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:28.239
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a matchup where for the Colts to win,

0:53:28.280 --> 0:53:30.879
<v Speaker 1>they gotta run the ball, Jonathan Taylor control the line

0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:33.279
<v Speaker 1>of scrimmage, and then they have to win with their

0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:36.439
<v Speaker 1>front flour of getting after Josh Allen with the Forrest

0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Buckner and Justin Houston leads away. So the Colts but

0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:43.160
<v Speaker 1>they have a great chance. I'm not counting them out,

0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:45.280
<v Speaker 1>but it's gonna have to be the front four taking

0:53:45.280 --> 0:53:47.480
<v Speaker 1>over that game. Because if Josh Allen has times back

0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:49.959
<v Speaker 1>time back there and he can operate at the level

0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:53.600
<v Speaker 1>he's operating right now, that he will skewer the Colts secondary.

0:53:55.680 --> 0:53:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll put it this way, JP, there's no chance that

0:53:59.000 --> 0:54:02.360
<v Speaker 1>the Colts beat the Offlow Bills. The Colts were fortunate

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:05.640
<v Speaker 1>to beat the Jaguars in the last week of the season.

0:54:06.040 --> 0:54:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Philip Rivers does not look great and he has to

0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:13.480
<v Speaker 1>have an incredible running game to support him. And uh,

0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and that's the fact. And the Buffalo Bills are gonna

0:54:16.239 --> 0:54:19.320
<v Speaker 1>run all over them and wear them out. Wow, okay, um,

0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I like that. There's really no You didn't stutter at

0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:25.239
<v Speaker 1>all in that in that prediction. The Rams at the Seahawks,

0:54:25.320 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 1>and we need the Seahawks to win, and we also need,

0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:31.320
<v Speaker 1>by the way, the h what is it the Bears

0:54:31.440 --> 0:54:35.279
<v Speaker 1>and Washington to win. That would give uh, the Jaguars

0:54:35.360 --> 0:54:38.640
<v Speaker 1>the best possible draft pick with the Rams pick. If

0:54:38.640 --> 0:54:41.440
<v Speaker 1>the Rams lose in Washington, Chicago wins and they have

0:54:41.520 --> 0:54:46.799
<v Speaker 1>the the worst record of the teams that have lost, well,

0:54:46.840 --> 0:54:48.879
<v Speaker 1>and and explain to people why, but I mean, that's

0:54:49.040 --> 0:54:51.479
<v Speaker 1>the Jail and Ramsey trade. You still have a first

0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:53.880
<v Speaker 1>round pick this spring, in the fourth round pick this

0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:57.040
<v Speaker 1>spring that is due to be paid to the Jaguars.

0:54:57.080 --> 0:55:00.200
<v Speaker 1>So the more that the Seahawks lose, the out of

0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:07.239
<v Speaker 1>the draft position for the Jaguar in the Rams um exactly. Yep, Yeah,

0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:10.799
<v Speaker 1>exactly right. Um, I think this is an interesting game.

0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I think you know it's in Seattle, but there's no crowd.

0:55:14.320 --> 0:55:17.160
<v Speaker 1>It's not like you have the loud twelfth Man there. Um.

0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:19.040
<v Speaker 1>These two teams have played two games, have been both

0:55:19.120 --> 0:55:23.600
<v Speaker 1>very close. Um. I can't imagine Jared Goff being ready

0:55:24.160 --> 0:55:29.160
<v Speaker 1>thumb thumb surgery. So you're probably John Warford, the Jacksonville

0:55:29.600 --> 0:55:32.520
<v Speaker 1>kid from Bishop Kennedy. Um. He actually played pretty well

0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:36.759
<v Speaker 1>in that week's sevent team matchup that they had against Arizona.

0:55:36.880 --> 0:55:40.040
<v Speaker 1>So I think it's Seattle. I mean their defense is

0:55:40.080 --> 0:55:42.799
<v Speaker 1>playing a really high level as of late second half

0:55:42.800 --> 0:55:46.480
<v Speaker 1>of the year. So Russell Wilson, you know, two close teams.

0:55:46.560 --> 0:55:49.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, both good teams go with the better quarterback

0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:51.200
<v Speaker 1>in Russell Wilson's as much as we'll be rooting for

0:55:51.280 --> 0:55:54.279
<v Speaker 1>John Warford for as a Jacksonville guy, but uh, I

0:55:54.320 --> 0:55:58.040
<v Speaker 1>think Russell Wilson is a little bit better. Yeah, definitely

0:55:58.120 --> 0:56:01.520
<v Speaker 1>rooting for him. But Seattle's d defense has made vast

0:56:01.560 --> 0:56:04.880
<v Speaker 1>improvement since the beginning of the year, and I think

0:56:04.920 --> 0:56:07.319
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be tough even though it is a no

0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:09.640
<v Speaker 1>crowd game. I think it's gonna be tough for for

0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:11.759
<v Speaker 1>the ram Let's get through the rest of these pretty quickly.

0:56:11.800 --> 0:56:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Here Tampa Bay in Washington, the NFC East champs. I

0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:19.920
<v Speaker 1>think this is closer to any one thinks because you

0:56:19.960 --> 0:56:22.120
<v Speaker 1>know what's the one thing Tom Brady hates. That's pressure.

0:56:22.400 --> 0:56:25.600
<v Speaker 1>And the football team can rush the pastor they got

0:56:25.640 --> 0:56:28.360
<v Speaker 1>a defensive front that can get after you. The problem is,

0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:30.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they can score points because that Tampa

0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:33.279
<v Speaker 1>defense is pretty good too. So, um, I think it's

0:56:33.280 --> 0:56:36.439
<v Speaker 1>a close game, but I think Tampa wins. Yeah. I'm

0:56:36.680 --> 0:56:39.759
<v Speaker 1>almost Tony right there. I thought that was perfectly described.

0:56:40.480 --> 0:56:46.359
<v Speaker 1>Six to three final Maybe no, not quite Okay, Uh,

0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Sunday three good football games here, the Ravens and the

0:56:49.680 --> 0:56:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Titans get us started at one o'clock in Nashville. Tony,

0:56:54.200 --> 0:56:57.759
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a good one. That's a good Yeah.

0:56:58.080 --> 0:56:59.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know about you, but I mean

0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I think the Ravens win because I don't think the

0:57:02.520 --> 0:57:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Titans stop anybody. That defense is so bad, I mean,

0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:08.160
<v Speaker 1>they were so bad. And the Ravens are playing at

0:57:08.160 --> 0:57:11.080
<v Speaker 1>a high level right now, and uh, I think they

0:57:11.080 --> 0:57:12.400
<v Speaker 1>have a chip on their shoulder. I think they're going

0:57:12.440 --> 0:57:14.480
<v Speaker 1>in better than they were last year, even though they were,

0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:16.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, had the best record in the NFL. Um

0:57:17.080 --> 0:57:21.280
<v Speaker 1>they went to adversity. They've overcome it. March Jackson is

0:57:21.320 --> 0:57:25.640
<v Speaker 1>playing really well. Their defense is good. I mean, Tennessee,

0:57:25.880 --> 0:57:29.360
<v Speaker 1>it's always everything the game. But if you can't get

0:57:29.400 --> 0:57:30.800
<v Speaker 1>people off the field, how do you win? And the

0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Titans are just atrocious. I'm I'm you know. What I'm

0:57:34.560 --> 0:57:38.160
<v Speaker 1>searching right now on my phone is what's the playoff

0:57:38.280 --> 0:57:42.400
<v Speaker 1>record for combined yards rushing? Oh? Okay, because I think

0:57:42.560 --> 0:57:45.760
<v Speaker 1>this game is gonna break it. It's gonna be it

0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:49.240
<v Speaker 1>might be broken. Let's see what it says. They put individuals.

0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:51.720
<v Speaker 1>They don't play a single game. Wait, yeah, they put

0:57:51.760 --> 0:57:54.800
<v Speaker 1>single individuals. But I think that's whatever the record is. Man,

0:57:54.840 --> 0:57:57.760
<v Speaker 1>look out, it might be broken. Good game Bears Saints

0:57:57.800 --> 0:57:59.920
<v Speaker 1>coming up at four forty and then the Brown Steeler

0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:01.640
<v Speaker 1>is the night cap, Tony, what do you think about

0:58:01.640 --> 0:58:06.040
<v Speaker 1>those two games? You know, I can't imagine the Saints

0:58:06.080 --> 0:58:08.360
<v Speaker 1>losing that game. I mean, Chicago is not a very

0:58:08.360 --> 0:58:11.640
<v Speaker 1>good football team. Um so I think it's Saint No,

0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:16.840
<v Speaker 1>you never know. I means one word, you never know.

0:58:16.880 --> 0:58:19.600
<v Speaker 1>That's why they play the games. Kirk Cousins went in

0:58:19.640 --> 0:58:23.080
<v Speaker 1>and one last year or so, who knows. UM, I think, listen,

0:58:23.160 --> 0:58:26.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm disappointed about the Cleveland Pittsburgh game from the standpoint.

0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Cleveland just not getting a fair shake here.

0:58:29.040 --> 0:58:31.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, no practices all week. They haven't thrown the past.

0:58:31.720 --> 0:58:33.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, they haven't done anything on the field. Their

0:58:33.560 --> 0:58:35.680
<v Speaker 1>head coaches gona be out because of COVID. Their offensive

0:58:35.720 --> 0:58:38.640
<v Speaker 1>line coach Bill Callahan probably out because of COVID. They're

0:58:38.640 --> 0:58:42.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna be out with their Pro Bowl left guard. But Tonio, UM,

0:58:42.120 --> 0:58:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's such a tough thing. I mean, you

0:58:45.120 --> 0:58:47.040
<v Speaker 1>hate it. You don't want to see this in the playoffs.

0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:49.040
<v Speaker 1>This is the COVID world we live in. I think

0:58:49.080 --> 0:58:52.800
<v Speaker 1>the Steelers win this game pretty easily. Yeah, I'm I'm

0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:54.760
<v Speaker 1>with Tony on both of them. And all right, JP,

0:58:55.480 --> 0:58:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Monday Night football is the college national championship game and

0:58:59.640 --> 0:59:02.680
<v Speaker 1>there's a team is playing that you've got a little

0:59:02.680 --> 0:59:06.840
<v Speaker 1>bit of a maybe a little bit of affinity for well,

0:59:06.880 --> 0:59:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I have a degree from there. But yes, um, and

0:59:10.920 --> 0:59:15.160
<v Speaker 1>who's gonna win? J M. I think Alabama will win,

0:59:15.200 --> 0:59:16.880
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think it's gonna be a blowout. I

0:59:16.920 --> 0:59:20.000
<v Speaker 1>think I think Ohio State can can score with them.

0:59:20.320 --> 0:59:23.760
<v Speaker 1>If Fields is healthy, is gonna boat race them Alabama.

0:59:24.960 --> 0:59:29.160
<v Speaker 1>We'll by Alabama wins by two touchdowns. I think it's

0:59:29.200 --> 0:59:33.000
<v Speaker 1>closer than the experts think. On Monday Night in Miami, Tony,

0:59:33.080 --> 0:59:35.560
<v Speaker 1>have a great weekend and enjoy the game in Pittsburgh

0:59:35.640 --> 0:59:38.480
<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk to you all right, guys, Tony Boselli

0:59:38.560 --> 0:59:40.320
<v Speaker 1>out of here. We're back in a moment on the

0:59:40.360 --> 0:59:43.000
<v Speaker 1>network with another hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on the

0:59:43.080 --> 0:59:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Jaguars Digital Network.