1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Welcomed Aaron Mankey's Cabinet of Curiosities, a production of I 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Grim and Mild. Our world is full 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: of the unexplainable, and if history is an open book, 4 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: all of these amazing tales are right there on display, 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: just waiting for us to explore. Welcome to the Cabinet 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: of Curiosities. In the Superman film starring Christopher Reeve, Lex 7 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: Luthor delivers a speech to his henchman and henchwoman about 8 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: what truly matters in life. He says, and I quote, 9 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: stocks may rise and fall, utilities and transportation systems may collapse, 10 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: and people are no damn good, but they will always 11 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: need land, and they'll pay through the nose to get it. 12 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: And he wasn't wrong. Look back at the legend of 13 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: Johnny Appleseed, for example, he was a real man named 14 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: John Chapman who hailed from Massachusetts. A nursery man by trade, 15 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: Chapman spent much of his life working around plants and flowers. 16 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: He set out in the late seventeen hundreds to plant 17 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: vast apple orchards in states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Indiana, 18 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: and even up north into Ontario, Canada. But Contrary to 19 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: the stories told in school, he wasn't doing it randomly. 20 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: You see, the government recognized new orchards on unclaimed land 21 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: as proof of ownership. In other words, Chapman planted apple 22 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: trees to build up his real estate portfolio. But Johnny 23 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: Appleseed had gone about things the right way. He'd been 24 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: a shrewd businessman who worked within the law to earn 25 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: himself a hefty income. Another man, on the other hand, 26 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: found a much different way to acquire land, although he 27 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: might have fared better if he had just stuck with 28 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: apples Don Miguel de Peralta was born in seventeen o 29 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: eight and joined the military in sevente He became a 30 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: lieutenant into dragoons, a class of infantry that traveled by horseback, 31 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: as part of the King of Spain service. Fifteen years later, 32 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: he traveled to New Spain, a portion of North and 33 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: Central America that encompassed modern day Arizona and Mexico. He 34 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: had been appointed a royal inspector by King Philip the Fifth, 35 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: who also happened to be his cousin. Although on paper, 36 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: Peralta had been sent to merely hash out financial issues 37 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: in the region, he was also there on a separate 38 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: secret mission. The king wanted him to observe the Jesuits, 39 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: as there had been rumblings about them wanting independence from Spain, 40 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: and Philip wanted proof, and Peralta delivered. He sent back 41 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: the evidence his cousin needed to expel all the Jesuits 42 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: from New Spain, which worked in Peralta's favor. He was 43 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: given the new title of baron day Arizonac and three 44 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: hundred square leagues of land. Peralta lived to be one 45 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: hundred and sixteen years old and had only one child, 46 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: a son, who had a daughter of his own name Sophia, 47 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: and as you might imagine, he listed his progeny in 48 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: his ill as the heirs to the barony of Arizonac, 49 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: the tract of land that makes up most of modern 50 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: day Arizona. One hundred and thirty years later, that land 51 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: was suddenly under the purview of one James Rivas, a 52 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: former Confederate soldier turned land barren. He had come into 53 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: possession of several grants, one of which happened to be 54 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: the Peralta grant, which gave him ownership of the territory, 55 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: and it was a massive territory to the grant specified 56 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: a breathtaking eighteen thousand, seven hundred fifty square mile area 57 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: that was bigger than Maryland, New Jersey, and Washington d C. Combined. 58 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: Rivas quickly established himself as a force to be feared 59 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: among settlers and the indigenous people's occupying the territory. Many 60 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: left for greener pastures, while railroad and mine owners had 61 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: to pay steep taxes to operate on his lands. Anyone 62 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: who defied him was either beaten or had their homes 63 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: set ablaze, sometimes both. If the newspapers ever wrote anything 64 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: bad about him, Rivas's men would show up the next 65 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: day and destroy their printing presses. He was a tyrant, 66 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: and eventually his tactics could no longer be ignored. The 67 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: press stopped being afraid and started printing expose s on 68 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: the shady deals that he had been inking behind the scenes. 69 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: The governments also then stepped in to assess whether the 70 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: land really belonged to him in the first place. Desperate 71 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: to hold onto his status in power, Rivas presented Sophia Treadway. 72 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: He had met fifteen year old Sophia on a train 73 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: trip and noted her uncanny resemblance to Miguel de Peralta's granddaughter, Sophia. 74 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: After getting to know one another over several months, he 75 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: learned the truth. The girl's mother, Sophia de Peralta, had 76 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: died giving birth to her and her twin brother, who 77 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: had also passed away. Her father had run off to 78 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: Spain and sent her to be raised by his friend 79 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: John Treadway in California. She was the true heiress to 80 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: the Peralta fortune. Rivas was thrilled by the discovery and 81 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: married Sophia on December thirty one, eighteen eighty two. He 82 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: was now officially bona fide royalty. He and so Via 83 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: traveled to Spain and enjoyed living in the lap of luxury, 84 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: rubbing elbows with all kinds of nobles and elites while 85 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: they were there, But their extended honeymoon soon came crashing 86 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: to a halt when Rivas learned that his barony was 87 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: being challenged. Back home, President elect Grover Cleveland's new Democratic 88 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: administration was taking a long look at the Peralta grant, 89 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: especially since its owner had been in the pockets of 90 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: the previous Republican administration, and after a long drawn out lawsuit, 91 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: the truth finally came out, Rivas did not officially own 92 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: any claim to the land in Arizona, nor did his wife, 93 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: the Heiress. In fact, she wasn't related to the Peraltas 94 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: at all, because there had never been any Peraltas to 95 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: begin with. Sophia had been upon and one of the 96 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: greatest con jobs in American history. Rivas, you see, had 97 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: made the whole Peralta family up. He had invented Miguel 98 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: the son and the granddaughter, the relationship to King Philip, 99 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: all of it. He had also spent a decade forging 100 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: all kinds of official documents as his way to legitimize 101 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: his claim, and it had almost worked. Unfortunately, Rivas had 102 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: made a lot of enemies along the way, including a 103 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: surveyor general named Royal Johnson, who had nearly brought his 104 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: scam to an end years earlier. It was his investigation 105 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: that had forced Revas to invent a living air in 106 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: the first place. Six years after opening up the case, 107 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: Johnson came back with proof that all the documentations surrounding 108 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: the Peralta grant was fictional. They was full of spelling 109 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: and grammatical errors, and had been written with a modern pen. 110 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: Rivas lost everything his land his money and his freedom. 111 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: He went to prison for six years, after which he 112 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: spent his remaining days homeless on the streets of Phoenix, 113 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: a far cry from the mansion that he had lived 114 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: in not long before. James Rivas was a career criminal, 115 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: always looking for the next con. Had he applied half 116 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: the effort that he'd put into forging an entire Spanish family, 117 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: he might have gone on to do great things. Unfortunately, 118 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: he'll be remembered as the artificial land baron who was 119 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: left with nothing, no money, no spouse, and no land. 120 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: A baron baron, now, I'd call that curious. Each of 121 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: the assassination attempts so far had failed miserably, but the 122 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: CIA wasn't going to give up. They had Marita Lawrence 123 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: in the perfect position, and if everything went according to plan, 124 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: they wouldn't have to deal with del Castro anymore. Castro 125 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,119 Speaker 1: once said, if surviving assassination attempts were an Olympic event, 126 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: I would win the gold medal, and he was right. 127 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: There were six hundred and thirty seven attempts on his 128 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: life as leader of Cuba, spurred on by years of 129 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: Spanish colonization and violence followed by dictators and presidents. Castro 130 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: and his recruits waged a guerrilla war against the Batista dictatorship, 131 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: culminating in the ousting of Batista on January one of 132 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty nine. Castro took control of the government, rounded 133 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: up Batista's supporters, and consolidated power. Batista's supporters were tried 134 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: and executed, which helped Castro cement his foothold. The elections 135 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: Castro had called for never materialized, and he seemed to 136 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: install himself as a new leader for life. At first, 137 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: the United States had a friendly relationship with the new 138 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: governments and with Castro himself. He visited Washington, d c. 139 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: Not long after he took power, where he met Vice 140 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: President Nixon and saw the sites and Americans watched Cuba 141 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: with interest. That interest turned to anger and fear when 142 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: Cuba began reaching out to the other superpower of the day. 143 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: The USSR AS relations continued to dissolve through the nineteen sixties, 144 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: including the disastrous Bay of Pigs invasion and the Cuban 145 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: Missile crisis. The United States became desperate to rid themselves 146 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: of Castro. The U. S government knew that there wasn't 147 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: likely going to be a serious challenge to Castro's regime 148 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: from the inside, but they hoped that they might be 149 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: able to help the dictator shuffle off his mortal coil 150 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: so to speak. Now, you would assume that this would 151 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: lead to serious meetings with serious outcomes as they discussed 152 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: how best to handle the Cuba problem. And maybe there were, 153 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: but the results were something that seemed to come more 154 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: from the ACME Corporation's boardroom than any shadowy CIA office. 155 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: Marita Lawrence was just one of the CIA's attempts to 156 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: assassinate Castro, called Operation Mongoose and costing four point four 157 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: million dollars. Young Cuban exiles were recruited to infiltrate Castro's Cuba, 158 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: and Lawrence was among them. You see, she was Castro's 159 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: ex girlfriend, and even though she had been spurned years earlier, 160 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: she still had an intimate access to his home. The 161 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: CIA gave her poison pills that would dissolve quickly into 162 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: food or drink and we're entirely lethal. Unfortunately, Lawrence decided 163 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: to smuggle them inside a jar of cold cream, which 164 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: dissolved them. She panicked and confess to everything to Castro, 165 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: who lost his temper. He proceeded to rail against the 166 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: United States for several minutes before handing over his forty 167 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: five and telling her to finish the job. She claimed 168 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: to have thrown down the gun and left both Castro 169 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: and the CIA to their own devices. Now, clearly this 170 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: plan failed due to bad luck, but the CIA had 171 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: others in store that probably would only have worked against 172 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: the likes of Wiley Coyote and Yosemite Sam. In the 173 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: early nineteen sixties, for example, the CIA poured money and 174 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: time into researching cigars that would be rolled with explosives 175 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: so that they would blow up in Castro's face when 176 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: he smoked one. Other sources say that they thought about 177 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: coding one of Castro's ever present cigars with a nerotoxin 178 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: that would take care of the job. Looking back, the 179 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: CIA seemed to be enamored with the idea of explosives, 180 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: so when the cigar plan wasn't successful, they decided to 181 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: focus on his love of diving. Based on CIA documents, 182 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: they debated painting a conk shell with bright colors to 183 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: catch his attention, and when he swam over to pick 184 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: it up, it would be an explosive. They also tried 185 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: a poison pen which apparently failed because the inside man 186 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: thought that it was a stupid plan. That attempt to 187 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: pass the poison pen off happened on the day that 188 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: JFK was assassinated, so the CIA decided to do away 189 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: with that one entirely. And there were other crazy ideas 190 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: as well. They tried thallium in his shoes, hoping that 191 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: he would lose his beard, because in the CIA's mind, 192 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: that was the true source of his influence. They tried 193 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: blowing up a podium while he was giving a speech 194 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: in Panama, which was foiled by Cuban security. For all 195 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: the dynamite happy, proactive poisoners that seemed to be operating 196 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: the CIA, their most spectacular attempt came when they tried 197 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: to hire the real professionals to help. The mob was 198 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: extremely bitter about Castro's control of Cuba because they lost 199 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: several profitable casinos, and so a CIA agent went undercover 200 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: and approached three members of the mafia, pretending to be 201 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: an international businessman who had lost money to Castro's gam 202 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: billing band. Apparently, poison pills were passed over to the 203 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: mafiosi and they tried to get the drugs into Castro's 204 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: food for months until the plot was called off due 205 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: to the extreme heat and the disastrous Bay of Pigs invasion. 206 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: Of course, we know that Castro managed to dodge every 207 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: assassination attempt that came his way, ridiculous as some of 208 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: them may have been, and lived to the rifled age 209 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: of ninety. The CIA may have been successful at toppling 210 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: regimes all around the world, but in Cuba they hit 211 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: a wall that they never quite overcame. As more historical 212 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: files are released to the public, maybe we'll come across 213 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: something stranger than poison pens and exploding seashells. But for now, 214 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: as Porky Pig always said, that's all folks. I hope 215 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: you've enjoyed today's guided tour of the Cabinet of Curiosities. 216 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: Subscribe for free on Apple Podcasts, or learn more about 217 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: the show by visiting Curiosities podcast dot com. The show 218 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: was created by me Aaron Mankey in partnership with how 219 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: Stuff Works. 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