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Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio, Ladies and Gentlemen. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's another episode of Quest Love Supreme. I am your

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Speaker 1: host Quest Love Quest Loves taking over? How you doing?

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Speaker 2: Like like he's got a man at home.

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Speaker 1: Doing that would have been a hell of a time

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Speaker 1: to have our theme back.

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Speaker 3: I know, we just have to change platforms and you know,

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Speaker 3: getting six people to change links and things.

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Speaker 4: It's a process.

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Speaker 1: Uh or yeah, just maybe beat right? Next episode? All right?

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Speaker 1: So you got a man like good to know? Anything else?

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Speaker 2: He's so good to me?

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Speaker 1: Any other? Any other? No, you just got two songs?

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Speaker 1: All right? All right?

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Speaker 5: I got more?

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Speaker 2: This is that's the same song.

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Speaker 5: I know?

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Speaker 1: This is Steve. How are you? I got no man?

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, there's there's always tomorrow, bro, unpaid Bill Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm good. Good to see you, Bro. I have to

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Speaker 1: congratulate you on your your work on Broadway. I saw

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Speaker 1: and Juliette. I highly recommend it. It's stellar work.

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Speaker 3: As always, this is a good time to say, we're

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Speaker 3: going to be in New York at the end of

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Speaker 3: the months.

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Speaker 2: So hold those tickets, Bill, hold those.

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Speaker 1: Let's do that. We should figure out a date wherever

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Speaker 1: we can go and we should do that.

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Speaker 5: Good.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, great field trip, field trip for the crew.

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Speaker 1: Uh fan Tago, what's.

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Speaker 5: That bro, I'm good man, I'm good Man.

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Speaker 1: And children sexy lights down there?

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Speaker 6: I see yeah, you know, hey, Shante moison Man, I

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Speaker 6: had to make no right even you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I'm well well out the candle light. I got more.

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Speaker 5: Come on, here we go, here you go.

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Speaker 1: So I will say that our illustrious guest today, for

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Speaker 1: the least the for the last three decades, has been

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Speaker 1: blessing us with their angelic. I would assume for octave

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Speaker 1: range the ability to break glass, if you will, getting

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Speaker 1: high up there. I wish I had that gift. Starting

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Speaker 1: with her debut album on MCA, Precious, of course, featured

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Speaker 1: in the classic Loves Taken Over, I love that. Wow.

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Speaker 1: That's saying that all the time, not to mention album

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Speaker 1: after album Love Supreme. You know, a moment's mind exposed

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Speaker 1: in a slew of others. She's also literally worked, I'll say,

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Speaker 1: with every producer like her collaboration list is almost wow.

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Speaker 1: I hope we get a lot of stories out of this,

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Speaker 1: from George Duke to B. B. Wins, to jam and

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Speaker 1: Lewis to Keith Kraut, to Keiper Jones, to Tricky Stewart,

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Speaker 1: Brian Lamren, Rodney Jerkins, Jermaine Upri, Robin Thick, Tim and

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Speaker 1: Bob Philly's own James. I'm gonna call him poisoner because

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Speaker 1: he hates when I at the letter into his name. Junius,

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Speaker 1: Darryl Simmons, Tim, Bob Carvin and Ivan, Fred Hammond, Raphael Sadik,

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Speaker 1: Kwame Bryant, Michael Cox. Of course, even work with boys

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Speaker 1: de men Elle DeBarge. The Iisley Brothers won a grip

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Speaker 1: of awards and plaques, and she's giving us the honor

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Speaker 1: today to recap her career and her story and her

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Speaker 1: journey on our platform, The Winning Quest Love Supreme. Ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, please welcome to our show. Chante moore, how

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Speaker 1: are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great? You name people I forgot I worked with?

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Speaker 4: That's how long? That and crazy?

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Speaker 7: That list was the only thing I will say about

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Speaker 7: that is I'm going to start with I have only

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Speaker 7: won one award, and I got it this year, no

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Speaker 7: excuse me, this past year for Christmas, and it was

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Speaker 7: supposed to be in nineteen ninety seven, but my husband

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Speaker 7: Steven found the waiting to ex Hell Soundtrack of the

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Speaker 7: Year award for the American Music Awards. It was the

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Speaker 7: entire album. He gave it to me for Christmas. It's

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Speaker 7: the only award I have.

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Speaker 1: You're trying to tell me for twenty five years, this

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Speaker 1: award's been in I A.

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Speaker 7: Yes, no one ever gave it to me. No one

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Speaker 7: ever said anything about it. No one ever called me

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Speaker 7: and said, hey, congratulations, you want or get up on

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Speaker 7: stage and do and be nothing.

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Speaker 4: Nothing. Ever, he found it and gave it to me.

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Speaker 1: Weird do you say that because we have question of

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Speaker 1: Supreme a still waiting for our Webby Award from our

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Speaker 1: first day.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, twenty years you need, when you need Stephen Hill,

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Speaker 4: that's what you need.

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Speaker 1: Stephen Hill. Does it? Shout out to brother Stephen. Stephen

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Speaker 1: just reminded me that when when his episode was done,

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Speaker 1: that was a very dark day in which the forty

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Speaker 1: fifth president was just getting ushered into office, and it

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Speaker 1: was a very and now here we are. You're here

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Speaker 1: on the day that that same person got indicted and arrested.

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Speaker 7: So that's very special, very special moment, full social moment.

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Speaker 1: You are all right, So my very first question to

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Speaker 1: you is, well, what the hell is going on? Tweet

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Speaker 1: the sheets at my home playing speaking of Well, first

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Speaker 1: of all, where were you born? I want to know

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Speaker 1: about your childhood. Where's the city in which I was born?

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Speaker 4: In San Franci San Francisco, California.

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Speaker 7: I have lived in California my whole life, San Francisco,

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Speaker 7: first San Diego, next Sacramento, and then Los Angeles.

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Speaker 4: For the last thirty two years or so. I'm only

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Speaker 4: eight years old, So you do the calculation.

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Speaker 1: I've not heard you use the term hella yet, so

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I believe that it's the truth.

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Speaker 4: Really I am.

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Speaker 7: I am a California girl, and I color my roots

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Speaker 7: because I will not accept my age yet, even though

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Speaker 7: my children are all bigger than me, and my son

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Speaker 7: will be twenty on the tenth of April, and my

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Speaker 7: daughter will be twenty seven on the twenty seventh of September.

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Speaker 2: Don't tell me how old your daughter is because that

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Speaker 4: But I was eight when I had her, So there.

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Speaker 7: You go, right, see okay, see see thirty years in

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Speaker 7: the business.

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Speaker 4: I was eight, Yes, I was eight. I mean you

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Speaker 4: look at so far you say thank you. I you

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Speaker 4: know what I feel.

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Speaker 7: Good, and I'm really happy to not feel the age

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Speaker 7: that the eight keeps telling me.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to just keep holding on to what I feel.

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Speaker 3: What do you do to keep staying that way? I'm

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Speaker 3: just curious what you do to maintain it.

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Speaker 1: Rock said that money was the best solution. What is

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Speaker 1: what is truly the best solution?

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Speaker 4: Joy and peace? Love?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because because if you're not at peace, all that

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Speaker 7: stuff just makes you frown and makes I don't care

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Speaker 7: what kind of botox you got, you still be just

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Speaker 7: angry looking. I just feel like the joy of life

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Speaker 7: and loving my children and loving love and loving life,

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Speaker 7: loving music still and being able to still do that

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Speaker 7: for a living is the hugest blessing I've ever the

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Speaker 7: fact that I'm on here. I mean, I know you

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Speaker 7: guys are saying, like, give me my flowers, but I

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Speaker 7: read on Quest Love's podcast, I'm tripping that I'm still

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Speaker 7: I was gonna say, here in America, here in the industry,

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Speaker 4: Get to do what I love to do for a living.

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Speaker 4: It is mind blowing. It's mind blowing.

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Speaker 7: I still get nervous about it. It's still I feel like,

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Speaker 4: I'm going it's Okay, everything's good.

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Speaker 5: I'm good.

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Speaker 3: For some of your fans, though, we feel like this

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Speaker 3: is where you belong and you should always feel like that,

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Speaker 3: like it should be a you know, comfortable place, like

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Speaker 3: I said one of the best voices of our time.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I'm still trying to just absorb that and accept

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Speaker 7: it without going And I was like, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Another reluctant receiver. Yeah, now I'm not in that position. Great,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Can you tell me what your first musical

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Speaker 1: memory was?

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Speaker 4: Ha, you know what.

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Speaker 7: I don't remember the song, but I remember the time zone.

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Speaker 7: What I did every day at home was dance and

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Speaker 7: sing to music. I wasn't allowed to listen to anything

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Speaker 7: when my brother turned eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Right then you started sneaking and listening.

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Speaker 7: No, my brother turned eighteen and my parents let him

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Speaker 7: listen to music that wasn't gospel in the garage. So

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Speaker 7: I heard Prince for the first time, I heard Minnie

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Speaker 7: Riperton for the first time, and everything else like that

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Speaker 7: had already come before, from the Four Tops to Everybody

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Speaker 7: to Spring everyone Stevie Wonder. I never heard any of

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Speaker 1: Wait were you in the seventh Day of Venice household?

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Speaker 7: No, I was a Christian, but my dad's a preacher evangelist,

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Speaker 7: and my mother was a sing is was She passed

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Speaker 7: she passed on. So no, we weren't allowed to listen

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Speaker 4: So I don't know if you ever heard of the Rambos.

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Speaker 7: They are old white gospel music singing family. And she

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Speaker 7: sang these notes that I didn't know anybody else did.

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Speaker 7: I only did the high notes because I couldn't sing

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Speaker 7: So I was just like, well, I can't do it year,

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Speaker 7: So that's how it happened. I thought something was wrong

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Speaker 4: That I should be proud of. Okay, wow, So I

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Speaker 4: was dancing around, singing.

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Speaker 1: Usually when our guests come on the show. In every

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Speaker 1: strict Christian household, there is at least kind of an

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Speaker 1: exception for Stevie Wonder. So you're saying that even Stevie

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Speaker 1: Wonder was too secular.

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Speaker 7: To anything that wasn't talking about Jesus.

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Speaker 4: Was not allowed in my house at all. I didn't

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Speaker 4: wear pants till I was seven. Wow, I was in dresses.

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Speaker 4: So don't skin your knees, but go out in that

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Speaker 4: little dress and go play. But don't skin your knees,

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Speaker 1: Were they Baptists or they were.

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Speaker 7: Church of God in Christ and then we were non denominational,

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Speaker 7: and then I ended up growing up and being Apostolic.

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Speaker 4: Which is pretty much just a strict with like the

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Speaker 7: But then they kind of but yeah, so, but I

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Speaker 7: all the time. My brother's a drummer. My sister is

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Speaker 7: a pianist, She an artist, she writes, she sings. She

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Speaker 7: was who I wanted to be like my mother sang.

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Speaker 7: My father is a pianist. Music surrounded me all the time,

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Speaker 7: and but it was just worship. I didn't know that

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Speaker 7: there were other kinds of music that did other things.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the illustrious Hawkins family. Yeah, of course they're

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Speaker 1: from the Bay Area. Have you ever gotten to see

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Speaker 7: It was at Love a live three or four, whichever

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Speaker 4: Was there what they recorded it? Oh yeah, I mean

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Speaker 4: Screaming and worship. It's such a beautiful like a ringing

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Speaker 4: Purchasing or hearing purchase purchasing.

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Speaker 7: Good Lord, I didn't have to purchase it, but it

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Speaker 4: It was my brothers, so I didn't have to buy it,

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Speaker 4: It over whelmed me. It brought me to tears. I

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Speaker 7: It just it was a journey that I had never

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Speaker 7: And then the second was Minnie Ripperton when it was

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Speaker 4: I did know how to handle that.

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Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, to this day, even though it's

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Speaker 4: Or yes? I was the least talented in my family.

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Speaker 1: Who you me?

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Speaker 7: I was the one that they hushed. My sister sang

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Speaker 4: His name is Larry Moore.

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Speaker 7: My mother was the leader of that group. My brother

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Speaker 4: Never, They never gave you I guess not. I mean

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Speaker 7: I didn't record anything until I was nineteen twenty when

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Speaker 7: I got signed to Warner Brothers Records. Actually, Benny Medina

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Speaker 2: But when did you get the approval from your family

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Speaker 4: Not until I was like sixteen.

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Speaker 7: This lady asked me to be Dorothy in the Whiz,

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Speaker 4: Because I'm taller than my sister.

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Speaker 7: And I was like you, me and my sister Latan,

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Speaker 4: But I never took it as a negative.

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Speaker 4: And I didn't care.

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Speaker 7: I was in beauty pageants, yeah, as a young woman

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Speaker 4: So I modeled before I sang, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: I just fucked me up real quick. That's why Kiki

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Speaker 4: It was in San Diego where I'm Kiki. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, I can do it. It was hot.

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Speaker 7: She just does these moves that we go, who oh, yeah, you.

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Speaker 7: To appreciate about myself is just be who I am.

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Speaker 4: Because my my heart.

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Speaker 7: Has been broken, my heart has been left alone. I've

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Speaker 4: I'm just like you. I'm the girl next door that

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Speaker 7: And so that's where I thrive, is just being okay

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Speaker 6: like what was he like with his influence, how he's

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Speaker 7: You know, he was so excited about me, and he

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Speaker 4: The thing about Louiel is that he was like a bulldog.

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Speaker 7: That was his ruin is because he was very jerky,

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Speaker 7: very very very jerkly, and so he would like bark

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00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 7: at everybody, not at me, but everybody else, like he

446
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 7: was like, ah, like he.

447
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 4: Had such Yeah, he had such a.

448
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 7: It's that it's that edgy thing, like he didn't know

449
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 7: how to bring people in with that sugar and honey

450
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 7: instead of the anything.

451
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just not they call that trauma the kids,

452
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 3: they call that trauma.

453
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 7: It really was to me, his his achilles heel because

454
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 7: had he not had if he learned how to deal

455
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 7: with people better, people at his office and the people

456
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 7: who were in charge of the future of Louell because

457
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 7: he had done so much in the industry and he

458
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 7: was such a good guy. But in the end, when

459
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 7: it was time for him to reap the benefits of

460
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 7: being such a genius musically, because he had been so

461
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 7: unkind to people, I think or just chopping heads off

462
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 7: a little too quickly, or just barking too loudly. I

463
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 7: think people didn't reciprocate enough. And he died a very,

464
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 7: very sad person because of that.

465
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 4: It was too soon. It was too soon.

466
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: Was it like cardiac arrest or.

467
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 7: He had diabetes? I believe it was. And he wasn't

468
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 7: taking good care of himself, and you know, I had

469
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 7: to always be like, okay, listen you, you know, and

470
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 7: tell him to do better at taking care of himself.

471
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 7: But he made my heart hurt because all the people

472
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 7: he put on. You would think, like when his MCA

473
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 7: days were over, that they would have put him on

474
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 7: like big time. But I think he kind of didn't

475
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 7: keep the relationships like he could have.

476
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 4: I should have.

477
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: But you talked about your voice, but I want to

478
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: know what one how did you finally master your whistle tone?

479
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: And what is the process even now? Like if you're

480
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: performing on stage, is it is it a daredevil jump

481
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: every time?

482
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 4: Like?

483
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: Is it Okay, do I have the voice that am

484
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: I going to make it? Is it going to hit

485
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: the because you if you do it, you have to

486
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: hit the target.

487
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: Spot on about that.

488
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 1: Are there moments where like like you gotta work your

489
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: way up, work your way up to it, or get

490
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: some tea.

491
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 7: I always have hot water and honey before saying always

492
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 7: not tea. Tea is a diuretic and make you have

493
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 7: to go to the bathroom and I don't want to

494
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 7: be interrupted during that hour hour and a half of time,

495
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 7: and tea can also be drying to my throat. So

496
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 7: I have hot water and honey with me all of

497
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 7: the time.

498
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 4: It is always a must.

499
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 7: And you would think it'd be easy for every promoter

500
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 7: and person to give the hot water honey.

501
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 4: I only ask for two things, hot water and honey.

502
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 4: That's it.

503
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 7: That's all I asked were I'm not ask for flowers

504
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 7: and a carpet and son that goes this way and

505
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 7: the scent of the Guardianias. Even though I love Guardenias,

506
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 7: I don't ask for any of it. It's hot water

507
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 7: and honey. And one time I ask for a pot

508
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 7: hot water honey. Literally, I have a picture of a

509
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 7: mama's grandma's pot like a pot at you, sir, you

510
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 7: made grips and somebody gave me.

511
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 4: A pot of I was like, yeah, yeah, y'all, let

512
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 4: get it.

513
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 7: There was a time where I had a bruised vocal

514
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 7: cord when I was singing, and I was just I

515
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 7: think I was just tired and emotionally tired.

516
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 4: It was one of the marriages of the.

517
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 7: People I'm married, and then those other lifetimes and so,

518
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 7: but now I don't want if the high girl's going

519
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 7: to be there, She's usually there ninety eight percent of

520
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 7: the time.

521
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 4: I learned to have fun.

522
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 7: With her, and I say her because if she doesn't

523
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 7: show up, at least chante will show.

524
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 4: Up like my regular voice.

525
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 7: If I'm singing the show, I'm going to be able

526
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 7: to sing.

527
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 4: Love's taking over.

528
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 7: It's all right before the high notes and all the

529
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 7: other songs can come sometimes a high note. If she

530
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 7: doesn't show up, I'm like, but you still got me.

531
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 4: I'm still here. Yeah. My friend calls her Crystal because

532
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 4: she's Crystal Clear. That's just my friend that calls her Cristal.

533
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: So you don't Bobby brown it, y'all say it.

534
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 4: You know, when I do that. Let me tell you,

535
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 4: Let me tell you the truth.

536
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 7: When I do that is I once was aware you are.

537
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 7: I make them say you are thumb man world the.

538
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 4: Same, but I'd never.

539
00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 7: I want them proud to sing ho whoa because that

540
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 7: is hard when I go listen to him.

541
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the hardest part of the song.

542
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 7: That is the one part of that song that makes

543
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 7: me listen to me, the whole part.

544
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 4: Listen to me girl.

545
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 3: Because you never when you did it in a studio,

546
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 3: you did it too separate times.

547
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 4: H Can I tell you how many times?

548
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: Jimmy, Oh wow, it was Jimmy and Terry, So yeah,

549
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 2: I forgot. Yeah, we already knew.

550
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: That's about twenty right there.

551
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 4: No, it was days.

552
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 7: It was months of days.

553
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: Just for it.

554
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 5: Got a manager for that one song, just for the

555
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 5: art work part.

556
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 7: It was a month, probably about a month that they

557
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 7: were like. Jimmy, he was so kind but so matter

558
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 7: of fact about it. He was like, all right, so

559
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 7: we've done a lot today.

560
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 4: Uh, you go rest and we'll see you in a week.

561
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 4: Rest and we'll see in a week because we get

562
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 4: the check. I was like, and you still you don't

563
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 4: have it and it's not it's no, no, no, no.

564
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: You can't just cut in and do two separate.

565
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 7: You have to put the proof and the pudding. You

566
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 7: gotta make it, give them what they need to. If

567
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 7: they're gonna chop something up, they have to have some

568
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 7: meat to chop it up.

569
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 4: I thankfully they didn't just go, oh, never mind, We'll

570
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 4: just do listen to the nigga. You know. They were like, no,

571
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 4: you got.

572
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 7: To Ni and he was like, listen, act like Mariah

573
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 7: care is in in the audience. This is the American

574
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 7: Music Awards, and you're out there.

575
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,959
Speaker 4: Mariah's there. He was like, naming folks. I was like,

576
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 4: you're making me more nervous.

577
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: No, sometimes people rise to the occasion.

578
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 4: If they if they say, and I was trying.

579
00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: I will say that probably that's a sign. That's a

580
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: really great sign of a producer that cares about you.

581
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: Because I could, you know, in my mind, I think

582
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: I just said I would have told her, look, I'll

583
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: go back to one of those takes and try to

584
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: make it work, or you know, they just usher you in,

585
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: usher you out. But the fact that they're willing to

586
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: go back to it.

587
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 7: Jimmy and Terry, they are the best of the best

588
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 7: besides George Duke.

589
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 4: Truly, there are a couple.

590
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 7: Of people like a name underneath them, but George Duke

591
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 7: and them for me was when I learned how to

592
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 7: record a song, how I learned how to tap into

593
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 7: who I am behind the microphone in a booth, imagining

594
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 7: what you're going to do live before it came live.

595
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: Talk about working with George, because I'm a fan of

596
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: George Duke, but probably the era of him that I

597
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: really like is like a lot of the avant garde

598
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: stuff he did with Frank Zappa. Yeah, kind of when

599
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: to a lot of early Duke fans, like when he

600
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: started making the hits and writing songs that are normal

601
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: as opposed to all that avant garde stuff he was doing,

602
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: and you know, we kind of we acknowledged it, and

603
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: we were proud that he was, like, you know, getting

604
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: getting paid for his hard work, but for a lot

605
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: of us, for me at least, like listening to a

606
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: lot of Frank Zappa, and you know, it's nothing for

607
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: George to do these like eleventh you know, diminished chords,

608
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: you know in five four meter you know, like just

609
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: really crazy avant garde stuff. So but I'm also shocked

610
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: that as crazy as he was, he was also there's

611
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: another side to his music where he's very disciplined and whatnot.

612
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: So what was it like working with him?

613
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 7: I am so happy that he was the first producer

614
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 7: professionally that I was in the studio with. He had

615
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 7: a way of making me feel comfortable with myself. I remember,

616
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 7: in particular Rochelle Farrell. He was he was producing her

617
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 7: first record at the same time, and he made the

618
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 7: mistake of playing zel for me. Oh my god, no,

619
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 7: I just heard all thee I was like, oh, oh god.

620
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 7: And she started hitting the notes that I wasn't comfortable

621
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 7: with myself yet doing and hitting and the tricks that

622
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 7: she had gone to school to learn that I was

623
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 7: only in my bedroom and there with my family going

624
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 7: shut up.

625
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 4: Before that, I didn't know that that you could use

626
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,959
Speaker 4: them like that. I was like, oh wait, she's doing tricks.

627
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 4: And George said something.

628
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 7: That that really resonates today. He was like, listen there,

629
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 7: Rochelle Farrell has her gift and it is her gift.

630
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 4: Your gift is your gift. You all are two different people,

631
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 4: and you have different strainths be you just be you.

632
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 7: There are things that she doesn't have that you have.

633
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 7: There are things that you have that she doesn't have.

634
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 7: So it's not a comparison. It's about having a mortgage

635
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 7: board of music that comes out and you be you

636
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 7: is the most important part of that. And he was like,

637
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 7: if you don't tell them, they won't know. If you

638
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 7: don't make it happen in this studio, it's not going

639
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 7: to translate to the world. And his ability to be

640
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 7: that teddy bear to me in the studio is why

641
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 7: I was able to relax and actually sing Precious and

642
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 7: Loves Taken Over and all of the music that.

643
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 4: I made that first record and second record as well.

644
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 4: He just had a kindness about him that was tangible.

645
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 4: It was tangible everywhere he went.

646
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 6: There is a producer you worked with asal Benfort who

647
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 6: did It's all right?

648
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 5: He also did don't walk away from Jay did what

649
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 5: was he like?

650
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 6: Because we haven't really had people on the show that

651
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 6: work what was he like in the studio and collaborate with.

652
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 4: You know, Vassal and Louiel were super close friends. Okay,

653
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 4: So because this is quest Love, I'm going to tell

654
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 4: you something that I've never said before allowed to anybody else.

655
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 4: If you listen to that song. I hope she don't

656
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 4: come after nobody, but that song is even when.

657
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 5: I cry, I can't back.

658
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 4: If you hear that song, that's what it's.

659
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 5: Like, all right, it's all right, okay, gotcha.

660
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 7: If you listen to it musically, very very close to

661
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 7: because Louil said I want to Can't Let Go for Shante.

662
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 7: At that time, I wasn't big on listening to the

663
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 7: radio and doing all that because I was so busy

664
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 7: being in my little world and my little narrow world

665
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 7: of creating music. So I'm glad I didn't know Mariah

666
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 7: like that yet, but she was rising. I knew vision

667
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 7: of love because that was that hit everybody we all

668
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 7: fell down with, like, oh my god, who is this woman?

669
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 7: But I didn't know Can't Let Go that well. So

670
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 7: when the music came on, I didn't try to redo

671
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 7: Mariah carey song, which is really good, but I wrote

672
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 7: a song from my soul. But that's what that musically

673
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 7: came from.

674
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 4: In VISal is funny and.

675
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 7: Creative, and loul and him both were just goofballs, and

676
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 7: I think that's really part of why I like Louil

677
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 7: and I like Vesal as well.

678
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 4: And I like staved as well, because we are just goofballs.

679
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 7: I really am okay with the goofy side of myself,

680
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 7: and anybody who knows me long and like ten minutes

681
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 7: knows I'm a goofball.

682
00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: So for our listeners out there that don't know the

683
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: Rodney Jerkins If I Gave Love story.

684
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, well okay. So I did a song with Rodney Jerkins.

685
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 4: Called If I Gave Love Gave So we did the song,

686
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 4: loved it.

687
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 7: Rodney did warn me, don't mess around, put this song

688
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 7: out first.

689
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 4: Well, considering I'm an artist, I am not.

690
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 7: In charge of what song comes first. At that point,

691
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 7: I don't decide that. When they heard Chante's Got a Man,

692
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 7: they're like, oh, Shante's got a Man gotta come first.

693
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 4: We'll come in back with a song.

694
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 7: That is unlike you, up tempo, different kind of feeling

695
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 7: will come with that. That's the one two punch. Before

696
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 7: I got to the two, j Lo had come out with.

697
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 4: What Have her song if You Had My If You.

698
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 7: Had My Love and same song, same song, same song.

699
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: They I hear they play a little dryo there at Sony's,

700
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: But you know, does this happened.

701
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 2: To you multiple times?

702
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 7: Just that one time, just that one one good times

703
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 7: all takes just that one good time.

704
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 3: Oh, because I remember special too, so I never know

705
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 3: special was the same thing.

706
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 4: Special is different than precious.

707
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 7: Special was running was Raphaelsa Dick, So there wasn't anything

708
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 7: that was He didn't get that song way what's interesting

709
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 7: and beautiful about the song If I gave love was

710
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 7: it hurt my heart?

711
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 4: That was the first thing that wasn't special and interesting.

712
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 7: But it hurt my heart when it came out, and

713
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 7: I was like, you just would have told me. And

714
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 7: that's one of the only regrets I have, like two

715
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 7: or three that I feel in the industry that I've

716
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 7: like mistakes, like things that I feel like, dang, I

717
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 7: wish I would have been more bold or fought for

718
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 7: it or whatever. I kind of was like when she

719
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 7: came out. She's such a machine behind her, being Jlo

720
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 7: with Benny and just all of the right the machine

721
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 7: she had behind her, and I felt like I couldn't

722
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 7: compete with that, so I backed up instead of I

723
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 7: wish I would have just been like raw like it.

724
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 4: Took, took myself on there and just been like, you

725
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 4: know what.

726
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 7: Either way, it's gonna be publicity for my song because

727
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 7: it's really the same song. And Puff Daddy came in

728
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 7: the studio and told Rodney that he wanted that song,

729
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 7: and Rodney said, that's chante song and he said.

730
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 4: No, I want that song. So Rodney is good at

731
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 4: recreating songs of himself, Like if you listen to some

732
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 4: of his own songs, he's recreated himself.

733
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: This could have been an usher, yeah, versus what's old boy.

734
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 5: Like eight song.

735
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: No, it's the same song as you don't know the rep.

736
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 4: Frequently.

737
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, it could have been that, all right.

738
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: So wait, I gotta go back to your beginnings. You're

739
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: from the Bay Area, you're singing. As far as I know,

740
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: there's literally no way that you can do anything without

741
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: having to pass the the kind of stratosphere of of

742
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: Jay King if you're in the Bay Area in the

743
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: eighties and nineties, I think it's literally impossible. So did

744
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: you have anything to do with that organization at the time,

745
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: Like at the time when Jay King is, you know,

746
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: working with Tommy and Denny and by I guess degrees

747
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: Tony Tony Tony and Club Nouveau and time Ax Social

748
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: Club and all that stuff.

749
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 7: I was sent by Benny Medina to Sacramento to work

750
00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 7: with Jay King.

751
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 4: He was to produce part of my record. He wasn't

752
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: a producer so much as he was a songwriter.

753
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 7: But in that time period is when I met Brian Morgan,

754
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 7: and that's when he wrote Week about me, which we

755
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 7: didn't date, but he had a craft tell the story.

756
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: I want to know. I want to hear your I

757
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: want to hear your perspective of Week.

758
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 4: Okay, so to tell the full story, which is interesting.

759
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 7: Brian and I spoke last week and I told and

760
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 7: I reminded him of this story that he had forgotten.

761
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 4: Actually is I was dating someone and he said, and

762
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 4: you and that guy sound like this, and he's like

763
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 4: the Circus tune he played that. He said, but when

764
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 4: you're by yourself, this is what you sound like. And

765
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 4: he said, that's how it happened. He said, that's what

766
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 4: you feel like without some smooth ship.

767
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: How is it presented to you? Was it like his

768
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: voice on a demo or hey, I wrote something for you,

769
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: like explained, He.

770
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 7: Wrote the song and sang all the parts because he

771
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 7: has a beautiful voice.

772
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 4: He was in a group called Cachet Duvoir It was he.

773
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 7: And a girl named Rachella, and they were supposed to

774
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 7: come out as a duet and actually Jay King dropped

775
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 7: them soon soon I got dropped from from Warner Brothers,

776
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 7: but they were dropped first.

777
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 4: But it was really like the catalyst to press for more.

778
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 7: But anyway, so Brian can sing great, which is why

779
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 7: he's on their album.

780
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 4: But he played the song and I remembered that moment.

781
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 7: Because it was like, that's what I feel like. I

782
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 7: can be a whole nother person other than.

783
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 4: The circus that I'm going through right now. I was like,

784
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 4: my life, that's like a circus. I'm you right, But the.

785
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 7: Calmness of those chords and then hearing him sing. But

786
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 7: he had a song called uh Wrong, just like five

787
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 7: and five don't make nine, You're wrong.

788
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 4: That was a song you have to be Brian Morgan

789
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 4: to play that for you because that's funny. But just

790
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 4: like five and five don't make nine, he had a

791
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 4: song called wrong.

792
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 7: But yeah, he had great music. But those times are

793
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 7: those are times to learn from. Those are times to

794
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 7: draw and you figure out that's when the wheat is

795
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 7: sifted and the fine stuff comes out from underneath. I

796
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 7: feel like those times happened to make me who I

797
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 7: am right now.

798
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: So it wasn't like weirdness like wait, this song's about

799
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: me or any of those things like me.

800
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 7: No, I mean, I I knew he liked me because

801
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 7: guys blirt and they act like, you know, you know,

802
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 7: how fin you are a girl, and they do stuff

803
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 7: like that.

804
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 4: He wasn't like, well, you know, it wasn't like that.

805
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 4: It was more he didn't know it, and it wasn't.

806
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: The first time somebody wrote a song or the last

807
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: time somebody.

808
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 4: Well I don't know. I don't know if it was

809
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 4: the last time or not. I'm not really sure.

810
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 7: But what I know is that the song was beautiful

811
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 7: and I didn't feel a creepiness about him.

812
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: Well, okay, so what I'm asking is, all right, it's

813
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: ninety two and now every seven songs on R and

814
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: B radio is playing this intro At any point, are

815
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: you like, you know the songs about me? Right?

816
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: No?

817
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 7: You know why I didn't because we didn't have a relationship,

818
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 7: like we weren't dating.

819
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 4: It wasn't like that's my bull hag.

820
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 3: It'd be different if you say more so you're amuse

821
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 3: like even more so he don't even.

822
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: He don't even know. No, I didn't even it's the inspiration.

823
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 7: I didn't take it like that until until recently when

824
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 7: people are like, oh my gosh, you inspired that song.

825
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 7: And I honestly, and that's what this whole time of

826
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 7: my life is. I think about, is me embracing myself.

827
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 7: I don't I don't know if you if I can

828
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 7: explain it right, but it is about me becoming or

829
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 7: understanding my value as an entertainer. It's taken thirty years

830
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 7: to get there for me to really feel like.

831
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 4: I'm armed so much worthy.

832
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: You're you can say it, but you're worthy.

833
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 4: I'm Aquarius. That's us.

834
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 2: That's what we do.

835
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: Is that it January twenty.

836
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: February seventeen, January twentieth. Oh my gosh, well him too, You.

837
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 4: Think that's it. I don't know.

838
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 7: I just thought it was because I was the youngest,

839
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 7: and that I just didn't quit that lost.

840
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: I think of the last five years, all of us

841
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: have comeing to a place where we're truly seeing ourselves now.

842
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: And you're no exception.

843
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 4: Like it's bananas.

844
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 2: That's my first loved boy birthday, and I love that.

845
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 4: It's Michael Jordan too, it's your first love Michael Jordan.

846
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: No, no, because he don't love me. Let me he

847
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: could love you. I just wanted to ask.

848
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny we're talking about all your singing,

849
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: but people don't really talk about your.

850
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: Song writing, ma'am.

851
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: And I'm interested about that and interested to when it

852
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 3: was it instant that you were writing your songs?

853
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 2: Did it was it gradual? Like you know?

854
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:56,959
Speaker 7: My journals started when I was twelve. My mom, brother

855
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 7: and sister gave me a diary for my birthday when

856
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 7: I turned thirteen, and I just began writing. Those writings

857
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 7: began to be poetry. That poetry became music eventually. And

858
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 7: I've written I think I've had maybe eight nine singles,

859
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 7: maybe ten singles. I've written probably eight up those ten singles.

860
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 7: I wrote It's all Right, Love's Taken Over and Old School.

861
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 4: Love, and I've co written so yeah.

862
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: I I mean, nobody who writes Jhonte's got a man,

863
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: but Jonte.

864
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 7: Well, with Jim and Terry, you can because they're really

865
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 7: good at pulling and helping to navigate and to cultivate who.

866
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 4: You are as an artist.

867
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 7: I think that's what makes them so good at production

868
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 7: because just like the Janet Jackson story, how she didn't

869
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 7: know she was writing songs, but she was just talking

870
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 7: about herself and saying, you know what my dad is.

871
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 7: You know, he's controlling, and my mother, you know, does that.

872
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 7: And then they go okay, so so.

873
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 4: Cadro what you know and you lose your mind because

874
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 4: they're listening to everything.

875
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 7: And I just saw Jimmy literally night before last and

876
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 7: was complimenting how kind he is and how people were saying, oh,

877
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 7: they told him that he wasn't going to be able

878
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 7: to get this Michael Jackson clearance, and he said and

879
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 7: then I met Michael and Michael was like, I heard

880
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 7: about your kindness. Jimmy Jam was saying, Michael Jackson heard

881
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 7: about his kindness, and then he was like, yes, yes,

882
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 7: you could have the sample to that song because of

883
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 7: his kindness.

884
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 4: And it really is something that if you meet well,

885
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 4: you all know Jimmy.

886
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 7: He's amazing, and he he makes you almost forget that

887
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 7: he's freaking Jimmy Jam And they're like Jimmy, Jimmy, You're.

888
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 4: Like, no, you're talk on Jimmy Cham.

889
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,479
Speaker 7: I lose my mind and I turn into a fan

890
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 7: every time I'm around them, and they actually co wrote

891
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 7: the song.

892
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 4: I wrote. I walked down the aisle to Stephen, my husband.

893
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 7: I wrote, I co wrote that song with Jimmy jam

894
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 7: and Terry Lewis, and it was a secret. It was

895
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 7: the only time I've ever lied to my husband. I

896
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 7: told him I was with a friend, one of my girlfriends,

897
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 7: and I wasn't. I was like, you can't tell him

898
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 7: I'm with you tonight because he no. They were like,

899
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 7: Terry was like, just you're just in the studio. I

900
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 7: was like, there's no reason I'd be in the studio

901
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 7: before our wedding unless I'm writing the wedding song.

902
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 4: So he didn't know. He thought it was an old

903
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 4: song that he'd forgotten.

904
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 5: Oh he didn't know.

905
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 7: He didn't know because Jimmy made sure he put the

906
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 7: refrains in that sounded for C and D's Janet Sos band.

907
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 4: You know, he put all that in there, so it

908
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 4: sounded familiar. But it wasn't an old song. It was

909
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 4: a new one. So it's coming out soon.

910
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 7: I am literally the squeaky wheel that keeps going and

911
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 7: we need to get.

912
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 4: The song out like immediately. So it's it's a beautiful

913
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 4: song at.

914
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: What point did he realize, like, oh wait a minute,

915
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: beast spoke song like this is custom made for.

916
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 7: Honestly, Sadly, after the wedding, I wanted to play that

917
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 7: song again to slow dance with him.

918
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 4: On one of our first songs.

919
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 7: He had a first song to dance to, and I

920
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 7: was supposed to pick the second song for us to

921
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 7: dance to.

922
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 4: And he's gonna hate that. I'm saying this South laugh.

923
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 4: But he was like, no, no, no, that one song

924
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 4: was good. Let's just let's just in the Let's just

925
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 4: let the rest of the thing.

926
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 7: I was like, I was alone, a little bit hurt

927
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 7: because I didn't know that he didn't get.

928
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 4: It, that it was a freshman for him, right.

929
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 7: He just knew it was a chante song and I

930
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 7: was singing it and he was like, I was so busy.

931
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 4: Looking at you that I wasn't listening as much.

932
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: No, he's he's a nice.

933
00:49:58,360 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: Did y'all slow dance to it in the living room?

934
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 4: Finally he listened, y'all was a girl, listen. You don't

935
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 4: even want I can't even say, Okay, that's fine, I

936
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 4: got it.

937
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 2: I gotta imagination.

938
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 4: He's a wonderful person. He really is that?

939
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 3: He is?

940
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: All Okay, wait, why did you say it? Like Miss

941
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: Speaky from Muppet Babies.

942
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 2: I need to naciate all of it, and I'm not.

943
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 5: I had a vertion about particular song you did.

944
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 6: It's nice, all right, I'm sorry, satisfy you the duet

945
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 6: with Damian Paul. Yes, the original version, you know, Brian

946
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 6: Lenrin version. It has Michael Jack He's singing the backs

947
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 6: on it.

948
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 5: Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, there's a version.

949
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 6: The original version is Brian singing lead and Mike is

950
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 6: doing the hook.

951
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 4: Uh.

952
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 5: Do you remember anything about that session or recording that?

953
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 4: That's crazy?

954
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 7: It sounds familiar now that you say that, But I

955
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 7: don't remember that happening. But I I understand why it

956
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 7: didn't happen that way, that they would have Michael on it.

957
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 7: So I get that part. But I do remember there

958
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 7: being a big push on Damien and that song, and

959
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 7: I didn't How can I say that I didn't.

960
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 4: Get why the song was so special?

961
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 5: Really, I didn't get it.

962
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: I love it.

963
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 7: I think it's a pretty song, but I didn't understand

964
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 7: it to be that, so I didn't get it.

965
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 5: So there you go, man, Well you sound great.

966
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 4: On it, well, thank you.

967
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 7: I love singing background. It's one of my very very

968
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 7: favorite things. It's what I love to do. And I

969
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 7: tell people all the time, you need background, call me.

970
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 4: When I was going to quit the business, I was like,

971
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 4: I could sing for Janet and Katie Lang.

972
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: Favorite background session, come on.

973
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 7: On my own, shoot all of them, every single song.

974
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 7: I love harmonizing with myself. I love yourself blending and

975
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 7: and there's a there's a first tone, and then there's

976
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 7: a second one that makes it ring true that it's exact,

977
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 7: and then there's a softer tone I use, and then

978
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 7: I figure out what frequency is missing, so I do

979
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 7: the third tone, and then the fourth one is the

980
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 7: base the uh and it's all the same note.

981
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 4: But it's just an approach to the note, whether it be.

982
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 7: Only wishious and then holysious, mysious, you know what I.

983
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: Mean, and no softer tune.

984
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 7: Whatever it is that it is that that it does this,

985
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 7: because that's what background should do, is support.

986
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 4: They should all connect like weaving, like together.

987
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 2: Never do this.

988
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 3: But I'm like, y'allant, y'all should do something together. I

989
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 3: don't know why I see that in my hand or

990
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 3: in my mind it's like something I don't know.

991
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 6: Yes, I love you, I love your background. They always

992
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 6: sound like really lush and warm and full and not

993
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 6: straight up.

994
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,479
Speaker 4: And well let's do that. Let's not let that pass.

995
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 5: Gotcha.

996
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: Okay, So you talked about your influences as far as

997
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: like uh as you grew up idolizing, But are there

998
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: any contemporaries that you really respect their game as far

999
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: as like they're because it's weird. I think vocalists listen

1000
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: to music like as a musician, I listened for other elements,

1001
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: and I would probably say that I'm, you know, committing

1002
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: the ultimate sin that it's almost like the vocalist is

1003
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: the condiment on the on the burger, like I'm so

1004
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: busy listening to all the musical elements. Yeah, but I

1005
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: know that singers. There's some songwriters that just listen to

1006
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: the words and whatnot and how things are phrased, and

1007
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: then singers listen to tone. So who of your contemporaries do

1008
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: you respect?

1009
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 7: There's like people came out of my time or people

1010
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 7: who are out.

1011
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 4: Now for me.

1012
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: That's like on the spot question, like like right now,

1013
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh god, okay, you know whatever.

1014
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 4: But can you see that I wrote stuff down. I

1015
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 4: am over thirty five, and I know people.

1016
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: Ask slightly fly, you're thirty four.

1017
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 4: Okay and a half. But what I love.

1018
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 7: The first person that came to mind was Shaka because

1019
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 7: the first time I heard her, I was at my

1020
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 7: church picnic and I was walking through somebody else's camp

1021
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 7: and here comes a drink.

1022
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 4: I'm into Hollywood and went in the Hollywood. I was like,

1023
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 4: what who?

1024
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 7: And I literally sat down on somebody else's blanket, which

1025
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 7: you're not allowed to do really, but I was like,

1026
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 7: if I leave this camp, I'm never going to hear

1027
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 7: the rest of this song. So I sat down and

1028
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 7: I heard the harmonies that I dreamed of. So Shaka

1029
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 7: was the first influence from the outside world that I

1030
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 7: was like, oh my god, wait, I have to know

1031
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 7: who that person is. And eventually I figured out who

1032
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 7: that is. I love Bruno Mars because of his showmanship

1033
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 7: and his ability to sing live and the way it's

1034
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 7: a complete show. I love him and Anderson Packt the

1035
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 7: way they have combined forces and brought different worlds together

1036
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 7: inside of his show, and how they've honored each other's

1037
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 7: talent with one another's talent Mariah Carey.

1038
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1039
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 7: I mean, I get why people can why people compare us,

1040
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 7: But I love Mariah.

1041
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 4: I love the way her head voice.

1042
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 7: And that's the thing. I've never had vocal training, but

1043
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 7: I want vocal training. And I'm saying it out loud

1044
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 7: Stevie Nacky that I want vocal training because there's a

1045
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 7: part of my voice that I absolutely want to train

1046
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 7: to be able to reach. Like just that Mariah carry

1047
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 7: things and there's a lot of range of sechings in

1048
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 7: her full it's called head voice that she has that

1049
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 7: I really I want to master.

1050
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes as of lately she's been like and that's a

1051
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: new voice that I'm not used to.

1052
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 7: So no, it's the one when she says, uh, the

1053
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 7: friendship song, do do do do do?

1054
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 4: When you lonely need a friend? Yeah, you need a friend?

1055
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 7: Or she just ah, well, well she's way up there because.

1056
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 4: I'm probably not in that key. But when she sees

1057
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 4: that a.

1058
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 2: She go gospel, when she goes to gospel, oh my god.

1059
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 7: Okay, that's that's the that's the place I need to train.

1060
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 7: Like I am so okay with learning more about my

1061
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 7: voice than I know already. It's been thirty years, but

1062
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 7: I still know there's better, there's more. I'm better now

1063
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 7: than I was in nineteen ninety two. I had a

1064
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 7: very small, very airy voice when I first came out,

1065
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 7: and it has like you know, sometimes people's voice, they

1066
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 7: get lower and deeper and they sound like a man

1067
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 7: or something like that. But my voice was so high

1068
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 7: and so airy that now it's deepened and it's it's

1069
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 7: more rich than her husband. And I've learned how to

1070
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 7: do more with it than I knew how to do before.

1071
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 7: So I'm really grateful to be an older person with

1072
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 7: this voice and with the knowledge that I have of myself.

1073
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 4: So Mariah, I love her.

1074
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 7: Jojah Cat nothing to do with me, different kind of song,

1075
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 7: but I love her. I love Gibon, I love India

1076
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 7: Sean beautiful. I love her as a person and as

1077
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 7: a musician.

1078
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 4: I love her.

1079
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: I don't play with my heart.

1080
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 7: There's a new one she has. I don forgot what

1081
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 7: it's called, but it's sexy. I forgot what it was called.

1082
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 7: But get her new record. Robert Glasper I want to

1083
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 7: work with him. I've seen him a couple of times.

1084
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 7: I love him. Ramah, Well, you know it's funny it

1085
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 7: would be easy, except I don't meet people until recently.

1086
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 7: Like there's a lot of people that Stephen says, oh, oh,

1087
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 7: they would love to work with you.

1088
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 4: I just don't know it because I've been home, so

1089
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1090
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 2: You never had singing talk with Mariah. You and Mariah

1091
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 2: never talked boys stuff.

1092
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 7: I've only seen Mariah in passing where I've hugged her

1093
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 7: and said.

1094
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm such a fan, and she was like,

1095
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 4: I love you too.

1096
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 7: And then we walked past each other. We've not been

1097
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 7: in a place where we're like sitting and hey, hey,

1098
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 7: you know that's never It's never happened.

1099
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: We should make that happen.

1100
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 4: I love her like, I truly love her. Like people

1101
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 4: talk about her, they'll be like saying, she, I'm.

1102
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: Like, you mentioned Steve Mackie. I believe Steve m So

1103
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Speaker 1: is he then new seth Riggs? Like is he now

1104
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: the go to trainer? God?

1105
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 7: Well, if you know the story as well. I don't

1106
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 7: think I've ever said this out loud to people. Okay,

1107
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 7: so I'm saying it out loud. I went to seth Riggs.

1108
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 4: Before my record came out, and he he literally turned

1109
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 4: me down.

1110
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: Wow.

1111
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 7: He said, no, you'll never and he actually said you'll

1112
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 7: never do the Mariah Carey notes.

1113
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh oh sorry. He literally he

1114
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 4: was like, go to someone else, so I'm sure you

1115
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 4: can get training.

1116
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: Wait is there a history of people just saying like, no,

1117
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: it is no matter of fact to you, and then

1118
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: you're just like, okay, whatever I.

1119
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 7: Am to me one of the words other than love,

1120
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 7: because I am a lover at heart.

1121
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 4: I am resilient.

1122
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 7: If I was a cusser, I will say resilient as

1123
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 7: but I'm not a really cuss so I.

1124
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 4: Don't say that.

1125
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Speaker 7: But I am extremely resilient. I may fall on my

1126
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 7: face and scan all this up like bloody, but I'm

1127
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 7: getting back up. That's just part of my nature is

1128
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 7: to just like go really, let's see if that's true

1129
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 7: and do it.

1130
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, yeah, because I was about to say.

1131
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,479
Speaker 4: Like, I've had some pretty harsh nose.

1132
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, well okay, speaking of which, like I skip it,

1133
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: but I got it. I have to figure out the

1134
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: whole Warner Brothers situation and how that fell apart.

1135
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 7: Well, you know, I turned the record in and Benny

1136
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 7: was like, you are more interesting than your record is.

1137
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: But isn't he also, like, I think it's his job

1138
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: to make sure that you choose the right material.

1139
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 7: And I don't think happy time.

1140
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 4: Or inclination to do that.

1141
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 2: What else was going on at the same.

1142
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 4: Time, Prince Sign of the Times.

1143
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 7: Karen White, Okay, I'll be sure. Okay, I wasn't quite there,

1144
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 7: and I'm okay with that, And I think maybe that's

1145
01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 7: from my history as in the More Family. I'm not sure,

1146
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 7: but I can handle no. I can't handle never, but

1147
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 7: I can handle no. Not right now.

1148
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 4: Because it's been thirty years.

1149
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 7: No, but it's been. It's miraculous and wonderful at the

1150
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 7: same time. And I've given up a couple of times

1151
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 7: and then gone okay, So seriously, what.

1152
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 4: Are you going to do instead of singing? I'm sorry, Chante,

1153
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 4: what is it?

1154
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 2: What are you going to do? What were you going

1155
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 2: to do?

1156
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 7: I was gonna go to some Beverly Hills hotel or

1157
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 7: something and get every night gig or something.

1158
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:38,439
Speaker 4: It was just gonna be singing.

1159
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 2: You was always gonna be a singer from the jump.

1160
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 2: There was nothing.

1161
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 4: There are voiceovers. I thought before I was going to

1162
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 4: be a model, but I only drew to five four,

1163
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 4: so that was over. I don't know, I don't know.

1164
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 3: Guess who I saw today. I cannot remember what project

1165
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 3: that was for. And literally like one of my favorite

1166
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 3: Nancy Wilson songs, but like I would have never thought,

1167
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 3: Chante Moore.

1168
01:01:58,360 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 4: What's crazy?

1169
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 7: I was on Warner Brothers when I first heard that song,

1170
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 7: and I thought to myself when I was nineteen twenty

1171
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 7: when I first heard that song in Warner Brothers. As

1172
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 7: a matter of fact, I thought, one day I'm going

1173
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 7: to sing that song. And then when More is More

1174
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 7: came along and they were asking for me to do

1175
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 7: a more of a jazz album, I went to George

1176
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 7: Duke and asked him if he produce it. And Nancy

1177
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 7: herself heard the song and actually gave me the head.

1178
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 4: Nod on it, and.

1179
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 7: That was one of my favorite things. And I was

1180
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 7: actually able to sing that song to her at a.

1181
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 4: Tribute to her one day. But yeah, yeah, that's pretty awesome.

1182
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 6: I wanted to ask about Ken Light and you would

1183
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 6: keep watching it. We all go together, and y'all did that?

1184
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 5: Or was that you know?

1185
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 4: We were together as we saying it.

1186
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 7: Lany Stewart and Tony Haynes and I wrote that song

1187
01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 7: and kissing you would already come out and Little loved

1188
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 7: Keith Washington and he thought we'd be the new Tammy

1189
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 7: Terrell and Marvin Gaye and we all did.

1190
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 4: We we asked.

1191
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,959
Speaker 7: Him to sing it and thankfully he came and did

1192
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 7: and we it just it just spit. He has a

1193
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 7: very masculine voice and I have a very gally.

1194
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 4: Kind of sound, and it just made sense.

1195
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:24,919
Speaker 7: And yeah, that was It was in Chicago with Lady

1196
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 7: Stewart and Tony Haynes.

1197
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, where are two?

1198
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:29,439
Speaker 2: Keith Washington Salter just one?

1199
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 7: I Love You was the second one we did on

1200
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 7: another record, but Shawnie Wilson wrote that song with Somebody,

1201
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 7: But yeah, that was the other song we did.

1202
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:45,479
Speaker 1: Really, of all the producers you worked with, who would

1203
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: you say is your top five in terms of like nurturing,

1204
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: really caring about the product.

1205
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 4: First? In mind?

1206
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 7: Of course is George Duke second? Only because of timing,

1207
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 7: because I didn't meet Jimmy and Terry until my third album.

1208
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 4: It was the top three. Yeah, that's it. I was like, wait,

1209
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 4: it was the third one.

1210
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 7: That was when I first met them and we did

1211
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 7: Mood together, so I didn't I didn't really know all

1212
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 7: of all of who they were, and as I met

1213
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 7: them and as I heard more songs. I love that

1214
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 7: part of it is that it's an unfolding as I meet.

1215
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,919
Speaker 4: As I met the producers, I started going, oh my god,

1216
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 4: that was you, that was you. Oh my god, dan It,

1217
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 4: oh my god. Some stuff I didn't know. And it

1218
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 4: was like it was like a.

1219
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 7: Waterfall deluge of information happening so quickly. But I I

1220
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 7: they're at the top two. I'm trying to think, who gosh,

1221
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 7: who pushed me like crazy? I love Simon Law who

1222
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 7: did Loves taking over with me and we did songs.

1223
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 4: On the second album.

1224
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 7: Actually, Ronnie Jackson, who did a lot of who did

1225
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 7: produce all of the songs on this independent album I

1226
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 7: did called Rise of the Phoenix. He's one of my

1227
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 7: favorite producer writers. I just I think each each writer

1228
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:23,439
Speaker 7: and producer has their own unique lane. And I think

1229
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 7: that's part of being a chameleon as an artist, is

1230
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 7: to be able to conform and do your best in

1231
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 7: all the circumstances.

1232
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 4: It's like people who are like, well, I.

1233
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 7: Don't sing in the range, or I don't sing when

1234
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 7: the sons are or I don't sing when it's a

1235
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 7: cloudy day, and I don't sing when it's I'm like,

1236
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 7: I'll sing different all the blassing. That's the thing everywhere,

1237
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 7: and that's what I think it's about. To be a

1238
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 7: person who lasts through time is being able to morph

1239
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 7: and and be able to continue to grow a Just

1240
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 7: grow that, gane it. You haven't arrived given a ride.

1241
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: I say that. I say that to singers who still

1242
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: give me the whole air conditioning thing.

1243
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 4: But no, let me say.

1244
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: I'll believe it when I hear it.

1245
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no no no no, I know.

1246
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 1: I know.

1247
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 3: No.

1248
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 7: If you turn on the air conditioner, if I start

1249
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 7: a show and I feel the air conditioner after I

1250
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 7: started sweating, it's.

1251
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 4: The free on in the air. It isn't if you

1252
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 4: want me to finish the show, turn off the air.

1253
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 4: I want to sing for hours.

1254
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 7: I sing as long as you want me to. I

1255
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 7: sing an hour if you want me to. But if

1256
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 7: the air comes on, you got about three minutes before

1257
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 7: she's gone and I can't help it. Damn, Okay, it's

1258
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 7: the free on. I don't know how people sing under

1259
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 7: fans period.

1260
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: Besides saying Luke, I am your father. He's the most jokes,

1261
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,919
Speaker 1: the worst jokes I've ever told any given episode I want.

1262
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 5: Are you so?

1263
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 6: Reportedly you're on the You're an uncredited guest on Jay

1264
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 6: Z's Girls Girls Girls Remix?

1265
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: Is that true or not?

1266
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 5: The one with Mike Michael Jackson on it?

1267
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 4: Amma, somebody need to pay me. I don't know, Emma,

1268
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 4: I don't even know.

1269
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 2: She's probably saying some shit inter session, you.

1270
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 4: Know what. Maybe so it could be somebody asked Stephen.

1271
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 4: He might know better than I. Is that if I am.

1272
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 3: I'm happy to be right, p sked the song I

1273
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 3: was talking about special, You're right, you had it first,

1274
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 3: but then Sarah Devine did it next, and it was.

1275
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 4: Oh, I ain't even know.

1276
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 7: I know Sarah Raphaelsa.

1277
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 4: Dek wrote it anyway, so you know he did it.

1278
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 4: It wasn't then it was him.

1279
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: I gotta ask this question.

1280
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 4: Go ahead and ask go ahead.

1281
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: So when you're getting the treatment mm hmmm for.

1282
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 3: The contagious video, Okay, yeah, yes, let's Cool's cool?

1283
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: Did you even realize, like I'm almost certain, there was

1284
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: a point in your life where you were only referred

1285
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 1: to by a certain generation as just like, oh, that's

1286
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 1: mister Biggs's wife, and you know, and I'm certain for

1287
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: a generation that the Isisley brothers were the two guys

1288
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: that's saying contagious and nothing else.

1289
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeap, yes, fun.

1290
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1291
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: And plus there was a period. It was a period

1292
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 1: in the late nineties in which like these gazillion dollar

1293
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 1: videos were getting made left and right, these epic budgets

1294
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 1: and whatnot. Yeah, what was that entire process? Like, like

1295
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 1: who's selling you on the concept and everything?

1296
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 7: Well, the first thing is when you talked about being

1297
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 7: in the same place at the same time singing, right,

1298
01:08:56,160 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 7: R Kelly, ron Eisley and I were never.

1299
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 4: In the same place singing anything. That's first thing.

1300
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 5: Okay.

1301
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 4: R Kelly is a musical genius. He's a lot of

1302
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 4: other things, but he is a musical genius.

1303
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 7: And so he called and was like, listen, so I

1304
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 7: want you to sing Greig.

1305
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: He piecemealed it.

1306
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 4: He was like, I'm gonna go and then you.

1307
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 6: Go no, no, he give us some drama, non no, none.

1308
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 7: So I'm singing it, but I'm doing it in a

1309
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,640
Speaker 7: studio by myself here in la He's in Chicago. I

1310
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 7: don't know where Ron Issley was.

1311
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 4: And then when we got the I got the treatment

1312
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:41,759
Speaker 4: for the video.

1313
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 1: What it happened was, yes, he is.

1314
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 4: Okay, I am in the bed in the video. That's right,

1315
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 4: I am in the video.

1316
01:09:55,040 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 7: What's interesting about that is that Robert was yeah, no, Robert,

1317
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 7: it was very specific about that. We had to be caught.

1318
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 4: In the act. So he was like, we need to

1319
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 4: practice the kissing part. I was like, no, no, we

1320
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 4: don't need to practice the kissing. We don't need to

1321
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 4: practice it.

1322
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 7: So he wanted to practice all the parts that we

1323
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 7: were going to do, and I was like, no, we're

1324
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 7: I'm sure we'll kiss just fine. Whenever it happens, it'll

1325
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 7: be fine. And so many bads I got.

1326
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 3: I just I know, it's okay.

1327
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 5: I know.

1328
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: But even then, well I remember more or less at

1329
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: the height of the success and the sort of the

1330
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: just the fast pace of it just becoming beyond just

1331
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: like a hit song or whatever. Yeah, Like I'm certain

1332
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: by that point they were like, we got to do more,

1333
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 1: we got to do more.

1334
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 7: Like I don't think they well, they didn't come for more.

1335
01:10:55,600 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 7: They didn't ask me to do other songs. It was

1336
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 7: a phenomenon, for sure, But I think the Isley Brothers

1337
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 7: ran with the mister Big more than it ran with

1338
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 7: who was the girl?

1339
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 4: Who was mister BIG's girl? And then once r Kelly

1340
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 4: got in trouble, it was like.

1341
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 7: Oh, I'm not even I'm not even singing that song

1342
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 7: in that piece in my show because I used to.

1343
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 4: Be like doom doom, doom boom and then it would

1344
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 4: be going on and.

1345
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 7: So it was really fun to bring that into my

1346
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 7: show because it was so different. They were like, oh

1347
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 7: my god, people forget really get that that was me

1348
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 7: because it didn't necessarily say shante more on it. It

1349
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 7: was just like, oh, mister Big and our Wait, you

1350
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 7: have to read the small print to see that it

1351
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 7: was me.

1352
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: So Steve just hit me and said, you got to

1353
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: ask her about tell the story. The Soul Train Awards

1354
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 1: performance this year.

1355
01:11:56,040 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, you got people was happy to see you.

1356
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 7: It's been the catalyst for so much after that that it.

1357
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 4: Has blown my mind. I I beforehand, you know, Stephen

1358
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 4: is really he's a great supporter.

1359
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 7: He's a he's good at That's what he does for

1360
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 7: a living is put people on, you know, whether it

1361
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 7: be you being the host of a show or on

1362
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 7: the show, or the music or the person singing or the.

1363
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 4: Lighter the lighting guy, whatever it is.

1364
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 7: He is that guy. But I don't think he had

1365
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 7: anything to do with that show. People like you scooed

1366
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 7: you married him because you put you on that show.

1367
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:45,719
Speaker 4: Steven loves me for me. So, but that show happened.

1368
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 7: And I'll have to give props to Jesse Collins and

1369
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 7: Dioncle and Dion she I've.

1370
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:57,600
Speaker 1: Got a last name, Kim soon to be Collins that.

1371
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 7: I believe it's I believe it is common knowledge.

1372
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 1: Yes they did.

1373
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 4: So they asked me to do the show and I

1374
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 4: and I really I was like, oh, that's so, that's

1375
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:20,799
Speaker 4: so cool. Who am I tricketing? And they were like you.

1376
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:18,879
Speaker 2: Poor little gerald LeVert.

1377
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 4: No, I was gonna be singing some singing somebody else's.

1378
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 4: So I'm like doing Tonia doing. What are we doing?

1379
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 4: And I wasn't saying that.

1380
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 7: I'm like, I'm humble. I just had no idea, and

1381
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 7: so they were like you and I was like, holy MACARONI.

1382
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 7: So I'm still the girl who gets nervous before the shows.

1383
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 7: I'm still the person who has butterflies until I land

1384
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 7: on stage and then I let them go on the audience.

1385
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 7: So I wanted to give a show a performance that

1386
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 7: showed all the different sides of who I am.

1387
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 4: And it was.

1388
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 7: Wonderful to be able to dance a little bit and

1389
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 7: be calm a little bit and then singing Chanta's Got

1390
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 7: a Man a little bit, and.

1391
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 4: It was scary.

1392
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:11,600
Speaker 7: But Adam Blackstone, oh my god, the band is amazing.

1393
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 4: Every band he puts together is amazing. Though he is

1394
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:20,560
Speaker 4: such a great musician that I didn't.

1395
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 7: Sometimes some stuff happens, and I think it's a good

1396
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 7: thing that I'm naives some stuff because it makes even

1397
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 7: though I'm nervous, it makes me less nervous.

1398
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 4: When I find out effort, I'm like.

1399
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 7: Oh shoot, they were watching, Oh my god, like it

1400
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 7: becomes something else. For what I will say about that

1401
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:45,719
Speaker 7: show that very few people know is that between It's

1402
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 7: all Right and Chanta's Got a Man the first time

1403
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 7: I sang it, because I sign me twice, I was

1404
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 7: supposed to be helped down the stairs. And I was

1405
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 7: being helped down the stairs. As I stepped down the stairs,

1406
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 7: and that last stair, the guy was suposed hold my

1407
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 7: hand and keep my hand until I got on level ground.

1408
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 7: The gentleman let go on my hand. Either he let

1409
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 7: go on my hand or I was like either way.

1410
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 7: On that last step, my heel got caught on the

1411
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 7: last stair and I literally fell to my knees and

1412
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 7: I was like, it felt like thirty seconds between hitting

1413
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 7: my knees and me understanding that that really did.

1414
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 4: That just happen?

1415
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 7: Because this happened to other people I've I've never gone

1416
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 7: on stage before because anybody there's TV cameras everywhere, there's.

1417
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 4: An audience of thousands of people. This is going to

1418
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 4: be on YouTube. Literally, my brain was like going and

1419
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 4: I was like, get off.

1420
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 2: I ain't even hear about that.

1421
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 7: There are people who were there who couldn't see it

1422
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 7: because of the way the audience set. I didn't even

1423
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 7: think about it. I was just like get up and finished.

1424
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 7: Because I'm alive entertainer. I've done very little TV in

1425
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 7: the last twenty years. Maybe the first ten years was

1426
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 7: a lot of stuff, but in the last twenty years

1427
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 7: I haven't been on TV a lot.

1428
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 4: And it's cool. Most of my life I've been performing live.

1429
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 7: People go, oh you still saying, I'm like listen, I

1430
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 7: think you think I'm playing the bills mama singing. So anyway,

1431
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,719
Speaker 7: I get up, I sing Chante's got a man because

1432
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 7: Dion knows me.

1433
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 4: Girlfriend came over. She was like, okay, so baby, do

1434
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 4: you want to rub on my back? Baby?

1435
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 7: Do you want to just sing from from the start?

1436
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 7: I just wanted to go back from which park Just

1437
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 7: tell me the part you want. So she's rubbing my

1438
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 7: back and I'm like, because I'm happy to be here.

1439
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 4: I am just happy to be here. It sounds like

1440
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 4: an Aquarius god, so I so mean it.

1441
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: Dion's like, mom, I love the We actually have to

1442
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 1: get both of them both, Jesse Collins in love you.

1443
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be dope.

1444
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that would be great.

1445
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 1: They run everything.

1446
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 7: They run the world, girl, the world.

1447
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 4: They're amazing.

1448
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 7: So I got up and I resang, it's all right,

1449
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 7: and did chants got a man, which is why they

1450
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 7: have that particular walking down the stair. That's why I'm

1451
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,679
Speaker 7: looking at the dude on each step. If you see

1452
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 7: me go down watching the dude, I'm like, you ain't

1453
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 7: dropping my booty giggings.

1454
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 4: That's why I'm stepping on the steps like I'm stepping

1455
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 4: on the steps. And that's why I didn't look over

1456
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 4: at Steven.

1457
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 7: That's why I went like that because I was like,

1458
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,640
Speaker 7: I'm not even looking at you because I was so

1459
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 7: self conscious at that point.

1460
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 4: But I knew, get to the end, get to the end,

1461
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 4: keep singing. That's the whole point is to be resilient.

1462
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 7: And I think that's what God was trying to tell

1463
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 7: me in the moment, is that no matter how many

1464
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 7: times you fall down, it doesn't matter. It's that you

1465
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 7: get back up again. And that's the story of my

1466
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 7: life is that I may be down, but I'm never

1467
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 7: counted out. I never count myself out. I am fifty

1468
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 7: six years old, and this is.

1469
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:49,560
Speaker 4: Thirty years in this business, and I am blessed in

1470
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 4: honor to be right where I am on an uptick.

1471
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 4: The fact that I'm here on your show, the fact

1472
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 4: that there are.

1473
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 7: Things that are coming that I can't even tell you

1474
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 7: about yet, that I am so beyond blessed and so

1475
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 7: beyond thrilled to still be here.

1476
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 4: And I feel like I'm prepared for my future and

1477
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 4: not like going, oh my god, oh my God, we

1478
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 4: hope I can do it. I'm like sure about it,

1479
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 4: even though it makes me nervous.

1480
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 7: I got bats in my stomach rather than butterflies, because

1481
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 7: it's a whole nother.

1482
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: Level of what like nervousness.

1483
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 4: No, for real, people get butterflies. I've even got bats

1484
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 4: in there. They're like, I'm afraid before every show.

1485
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 7: I say afraid, I'm nervous before every show as soon

1486
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 7: as I step on the stage and I see each face.

1487
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 4: You talk about.

1488
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 7: Award winning, and I say it all the time, and

1489
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 7: I meet it with all my soul every time I

1490
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 7: step on the stage, each face, each person in every seat.

1491
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 4: That paid to see this girl thing, this one. They're

1492
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:53,520
Speaker 4: my Grammys.

1493
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 7: They are my American Music Awards, they are my honors,

1494
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 7: they are my whatever you want.

1495
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 4: To call it. I have a million Grammys. If those

1496
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 4: people that come back and say, hey, you are the

1497
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 4: reason why I didn't kill myself.

1498
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 7: I listened to Chantez Gotta Man, or Loves Taking Over

1499
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 7: or It's all Right, and for my mother when she

1500
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 7: was dying, and it brought her peace. You are the

1501
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 7: reason why I still am here.

1502
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 4: Those things.

1503
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 7: That's the reason why I get back up and I

1504
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 7: sing over and over and over the same songs over

1505
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 7: and over again.

1506
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 4: But I'm putting new music out this year. But that's

1507
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 4: why I do what I do.

1508
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 3: I'm just glad you ain't stick of them yet because

1509
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 3: we not so I'm not I'm not finished yet.

1510
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 4: I'm really not finished.

1511
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 7: I'm really I'm not done, and I'm happy to still

1512
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 7: just be here.

1513
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 4: I really am.

1514
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for your union to one of my

1515
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 1: favorite music nerds of all time. You know, it couldn't

1516
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 1: have happened to a better person. I regret. I know

1517
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: there was a period in which I was sort of

1518
01:19:56,560 --> 01:20:02,599
Speaker 1: on the short list to DJ to DJ the wedding,

1519
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 1: and you know I couldn't do it at the time

1520
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 1: because I had a few jobs going.

1521
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 2: So I think they did just fine. I think he

1522
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:14,959
Speaker 2: did just fine.

1523
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 4: We missed your presence there.

1524
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 7: Both of us respected, love you very much, and we're

1525
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:21,680
Speaker 7: very happy. Both of us respect and love you very

1526
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 7: much for.

1527
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 1: Just that beautiful, beautiful You know we're big fans of

1528
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 1: you on the show, and we thank you for coming

1529
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: on and talking.

1530
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 2: To lapping you with these flowers.

1531
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 4: Thank you. I appreciate you.

1532
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 1: Was on mute. You might want to take it off

1533
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 1: mute and do it again.

1534
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 6: No, I do like a silent clap because it's on zoom,

1535
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 6: so it's like I don't want to cut cut the audio,

1536
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 6: all right.

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Speaker 1: Well, on behalf of Silent Steve and Hilo, and like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much Sean for coming on the show,

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Speaker 1: and thank you guys for listening to Quest Supreme. And

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Speaker 1: we will see you next week on the next go round.

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Speaker 1: All right, y'all see it. Let's Love Supreme is a

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Speaker 1: production of iHeart Radio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit

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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to

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