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Speaker 1: These These one Bills Live presented by Kalida Help.

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Speaker 2: Hello again, everybody. We're coming to you live from high

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Speaker 2: Mark Stadium in Orchard Park, New York for a prime

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Speaker 2: time matchup on Sunday Night Football is the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 2: host the New York Giants in a Week six matchup.

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Speaker 2: Taylor in the shotgun back to past press, You're coming,

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Speaker 2: Henny sack once again.

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Speaker 3: A j. E.

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Speaker 2: Nessa with a big play in the backfield stand off

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Speaker 2: to Barkley, stopped shy of the goal line and driven back.

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Speaker 2: The clock's gonna run here.

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Speaker 4: You gotta stay.

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Speaker 2: The Giants don't have a way to stop it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you gotta stay on top of him.

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Speaker 5: It's three seconds, two seconds, one second.

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Speaker 4: That's gonna be the end of the half.

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Speaker 2: They're out of time. Boy, the Giants botched that one royally.

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Speaker 2: They come away with absolutely nothing. Here we go orbit

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Speaker 2: motion there by Hardy back to pass, throws it to

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Speaker 2: Hardy in the left flat and he's gonna find his

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Speaker 2: way into the end zone.

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Speaker 6: The diminutive Deontae Hardy with his first touchdown as a

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Speaker 6: Buffalo Bill three yards and the Bills are finally.

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Speaker 7: On the board.

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Speaker 2: Down here's Allan in the shotgun cooked to his left

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Speaker 2: back to pass, looking for the swing pass pocket collapse.

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Speaker 2: He rolls out to his right to buy time into traffic.

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Speaker 7: But touchdown pass is good. When Morris a fifteen yard Darth.

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Speaker 8: Say nervous, opsina got pret per, I'm jimmy, what a chancel?

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Speaker 2: Here's the snap takes the handoff frozen into the end zone.

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Speaker 2: It's incomplete, intended for Darren Waller, Tarn Johnson and coverage

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Speaker 2: posit up disruption to force the incompletion.

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Speaker 6: The game is over and the Bills escape with a

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Speaker 6: fourteen to nine victory.

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Speaker 2: Now that is your Toshiba game. Rewind Toshiba, the official

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Speaker 2: copier company of the Buffalo Bills, and it was like

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Speaker 2: you and your friends were in the escape room and

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Speaker 2: time was running out. The Bills literally escaped high Mark

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Speaker 2: Stadium with a fourteen to nine victory. To tell you

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Speaker 2: and to paint a picture as to just how fortunate

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills were, we have to thank optistats for

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Speaker 2: this one, which was I believe found by our good

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Speaker 2: friend Jeff Colton act in the control room. The Giants

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Speaker 2: are the only NFL team, the only NFL team in

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl era to have more rushing yards, more

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Speaker 2: passing yards, fewer interceptions thrown, fewer fumbles lost, and fewer

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Speaker 2: missfield goals than their opponent and still lose teams had

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Speaker 2: been one hundred thirty four and oh in the Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl era. When doing all of that in a game,

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Speaker 2: regular season and postseason, the Bills were fortunate with a

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Speaker 2: capital fortunat.

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Speaker 7: What did you just spell there?

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Speaker 2: I didn't fortunate other.

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Speaker 7: Unbelievable, tough, gritty win. But man was it ugly and

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Speaker 7: it was excruciating for Bills fans. Man, it was painful

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Speaker 7: to watch, and a lot of thoughts about this game

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Speaker 7: flying around because you know, people are just frustrated as

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Speaker 7: all get out about the inability to score fourteen, you know,

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Speaker 7: more than fourteen points against a defense that was decimated

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Speaker 7: like the Giants were in particularly an offense that was

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Speaker 7: decimated like the Giants were. The Giants found a way

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Speaker 7: to win the time of possession. And I haven't even

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Speaker 7: let me look at what that total was. It was

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Speaker 7: twenty one. As the game went on and the Bills

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Speaker 7: got into that second half, they entered the fourth quarter

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Speaker 7: the Bills down six nothing. It was you you g

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Speaker 7: l y ugly, and they found a way to score

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Speaker 7: twice in the fourth quarter and win this game. And man,

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Speaker 7: old man, you talk about an escape, it was, There's

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Speaker 7: no question about it. Giants did a masterful job moving

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Speaker 7: Tyrod around. They knew Tyrod never turns it over. They

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Speaker 7: moved the pocket around. The Bills pass rush was getting

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Speaker 7: home early, and the Giants said, listen, we ain't doing

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Speaker 7: that anymore. The balls coming out, and we're moving the

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Speaker 7: pocket and getting Tyrod out of there. Tyrod scrambled a

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Speaker 7: couple of times. Really did nice job. I mean, Bills

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Speaker 7: fans know it well. But this game, if you flip

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Speaker 7: and the Giants where the Bills are, this had drought

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Speaker 7: written all over it. This is exactly what the Bills

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Speaker 7: kind of did throughout their years.

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Speaker 9: As you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the only difference is they lose the game, right exactly.

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Speaker 7: The Bills are the Giants and the Giants are the Bills.

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Speaker 7: For seventeen years we lived in that world, and the

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Speaker 7: Bills come out make enough plays. Josh makes a one

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Speaker 7: to take the lead. Unbelievable. Game, and you just kind

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Speaker 7: And you move on. You got to go play the

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Speaker 7: Patriots next week at one o'clock. People are going losing

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Speaker 7: their minds over the offensive play calling. And I got

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Speaker 7: the All twenty two comes out tomorrow. I want to

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Speaker 7: go back and look because Josh was like an old

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Speaker 7: love song, I only have eyes for you, Steph Diggs.

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Speaker 7: I mean he was He threw it twelve out of

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Speaker 7: the eighteen targets in the first half word of digs.

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Speaker 2: Twelve of them, and he was double teamed the entire game.

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Speaker 7: And still Diggs was running open. So yeah, you'd love

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Speaker 7: to have those targets the target shares spread out a

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Speaker 7: little bit, have somebody in the offense and merge. But

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Speaker 7: I'm telling you, and there were flashes where the running

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Speaker 7: game was good, even with you know, James Cook had

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Speaker 7: snapped off of some really nice runs, no question about it.

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Speaker 7: Latavious Murray snapped off some really good runs, no doubt

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Speaker 7: they looked really good. Wow. Man, it was exhausting and

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Speaker 7: excruciating to watch that win. And that's where that's the

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Speaker 7: whorld you live in when you go with he couldn't

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Speaker 7: they couldn't convert on third down? Goodness great?

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Speaker 2: It one for five in the first half on third down.

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Speaker 7: It's hard to watch.

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Speaker 2: And the Giants I think were like fifty percent and

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Speaker 2: they finished ten of nineteen on third down. The Bills

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Speaker 2: finished fifty percent two. When all is said and done,

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Speaker 2: they actually went four for four on third down on

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Speaker 2: that seventeen play, eighty nine yards scoring drive that took

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Speaker 2: ten minutes off the clock. The reason why each team

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Speaker 2: because of that drive and a twelve play seventy five

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Speaker 2: So this game was one and lost in the red zone.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Buffalo's defense was masterful in the red zone.

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Speaker 2: They gave up yards between the twenties, but when they

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Speaker 2: they're kicking themselves today right that. It was an abomination

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Speaker 2: of clock management at the end of the first half.

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Speaker 2: Chirod Taylor took the blame Ford after the game because

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Speaker 2: he apparently checked out of a pass play with thirteen

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Speaker 2: a run play with thirteen seconds left, and they're nonchalant

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Speaker 2: The refs blow the whistle late for forward progress. There's

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Speaker 2: Why are you gonna hurry there?

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Speaker 7: There's no timeouts left.

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Speaker 2: There is no way for the Giants to stop to climb.

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Speaker 7: The Bills are taking their time trying to untangle get up.

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Speaker 7: But the last job by Ben for a nice job

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Speaker 2: Hey, if you watch that play, the lack of urgency

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Speaker 2: here's why it's important. It's fourteen twelve, it's fourteen nine

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Speaker 7: Dave Ball's head was purple after that play. It was

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Speaker 7: a total It looked like a grape. Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 7: it's not mental gymnastics. You're getting through. You gotta know now,

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Speaker 7: Tyrod blows it when he runs the ball, I'll say this,

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Speaker 7: you give it to Saquon Barkley, expect, all right, that

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Speaker 7: guy's gonna get in. Well he doesn't, he doesn't, and

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Speaker 7: ream and then going and that offensive lineman go. Nobody's doing.

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Speaker 7: Brain cramp, total, total nonchalant. Whether they thought they had

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Speaker 7: and all that, but man, oh man in a vacuum.

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Speaker 7: That is a total brain cramp. And the Bills escaped.

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Speaker 7: Great job defensively. They gave up nine points on the night. Defensively,

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Speaker 7: the only the only dart you can throw at the

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Speaker 7: They were to stop the clip right and it's and

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Speaker 7: it's like here we go. It's first and goal on

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Speaker 7: I've been hearing a lot about that. I would get

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Speaker 7: your thoughts, Brownie, because we had this conversation the the

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Speaker 7: pass interference on kyer Elam in the end zone, the

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Speaker 7: play before that set up the first and goal on

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Speaker 7: the on the one yard line. Yeah, it was egregious.

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Speaker 7: He did it. It should have been holding, not pass interference.

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Speaker 7: But the play they called pass interference. It was in

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Speaker 7: the end zone. Instead of holding, it would have been

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Speaker 7: a five yard penalty instead of first and goal at

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Speaker 7: the one. But they called it pass interference, and it

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Speaker 7: was egregious. He was holding them, but it was before

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Speaker 7: the ball was thrown and all that you pointed out.

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Speaker 7: Instead of passing interference, it should have been holding, but

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Speaker 7: they called it pass interference. Now it's first and goal

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Speaker 7: on the one, and it was egregious. Even though they

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Speaker 7: Taron Johnson, it wasn't nearly as bad as the kyer

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Speaker 7: Elm penalty. So the officials going on. That wasn't that

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Speaker 7: and I, it's a nitpick if you call it. Certainly

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Speaker 7: but man, they're not gonna call that twice in a

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Speaker 2: And we thought it was iland was actually Terrell Bernard

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Speaker 7: Right, Terrell Bernard's penalty right before that on the on

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Speaker 7: What do you take away from the feet getting tangled

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was bad. Gave Davis would have been wide

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Speaker 7: that all in all, the Bills escape. It was an

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Speaker 7: it was excruciating to watch that excruciating to watch it,

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Speaker 2: What a game? People are hot, and I understand why.

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Speaker 2: We want your takeaways from yesterday fourteen to nine win

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Speaker 2: Al Davis never said it better just win, baby, Dunno,

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Speaker 10: Got a couple of things. The first thing is just

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Speaker 7: Don't I would doubt it. I don't think so. It

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Speaker 10: Right right, So a couple of things I want to

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Speaker 10: That was a horrible decision and the timing of everybody

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Speaker 7: they do best and apply it to the matchup you

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Speaker 7: have that week against what the other team does well

433
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Speaker 7: on the other side of the ball on their defense.

434
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Speaker 7: So they're steeped in what the answer should be to

435
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Speaker 7: what another team does well. Now, certainly you get some

436
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Speaker 7: innovative things like this thing that Mike McDaniel has done

437
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Speaker 7: in Miami with the sprint, the quick sprint motion. It's

438
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Speaker 7: a new idea the teams say are cool. All of

439
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 7: a sudden, every team in the league is trying it

440
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Speaker 7: or using it, so it stuff spreads out fast. So, yeah,

441
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Speaker 7: you're the stuff you're talking about. Absolutely, It's not just

442
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Speaker 7: Ken Dorsey. It's also Brian da Bol and Mike Kofka

443
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Speaker 7: and the Giants and you know, Shanahan and San Francisco

444
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Speaker 7: and all these guys all over the league. They see

445
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 7: it and know it, and they know what the answer

446
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 7: should be to what a defense is doing well. Some

447
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Speaker 7: of the problems that you'll see and I'm I'm waiting

448
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Speaker 7: on the all twenty two to come out tomorrow for

449
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Speaker 7: this game as to see if and you always should

450
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Speaker 7: do this if you have access to the All twenty

451
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Speaker 7: two coaching film, go back and watch the plays of

452
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Speaker 7: the offense and how they develop, and you'll be able

453
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Speaker 7: to see some It's always it's it's rarely one thing.

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Speaker 7: When you have a game like last night for the

455
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Speaker 7: Buffalo Bills. It's rarely like, Ah, the offensive line didn't

456
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Speaker 7: play well and that's the reason you lose, Or Ah,

457
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 7: the quarterback missed this open receivers. It may happen. All

458
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Speaker 7: that stuff happens. All these reasons happen every game, so

459
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Speaker 7: it's hard to pinpoint and generalize, say, well, Ken Dorsey

460
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Speaker 7: needs to run the ball more, or Ken Dorsey needs

461
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Speaker 7: to scheme guys open, or Josh needs to find the

462
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Speaker 7: open guy. Josh needs to take the check down. Their

463
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Speaker 7: running game needs to run. It's all of those things

464
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Speaker 7: all the time because you're not playing in a vacuum.

465
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Speaker 7: So certainly you can have games where wow, they could

466
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Speaker 7: not hit the short passes at all, Josh just wouldn't

467
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Speaker 7: look short, or certainly games like that pop up. But

468
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Speaker 7: until you get in there and watch the film, it's

469
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Speaker 7: hard to make those You know those generalizations like the

470
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Speaker 7: first series when they on the thirty on the Giants

471
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Speaker 7: thirty seven yard line, it's fourth and ten or fourth

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Speaker 7: and nine, and Sean McDermott punts it instead of trying

473
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Speaker 7: the fifty five yard field goal, and everybody's going, what

474
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Speaker 7: are you doing? And at that point, Tyler Bass hadn't

475
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Speaker 7: missed a kick all year. I'll tell you this right now,

476
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Speaker 7: and I don't know this yet, but I'm gonna find

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Speaker 7: out if I can. I'm telling you Matt Smiley and

478
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Speaker 7: Tyler Bass went to Mcgnermay said, listen, if we're going

479
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Speaker 7: this direction towards the score board, and we all know

480
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Speaker 7: that end of the field is the is the vortex

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Speaker 7: of death.

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Speaker 2: There was no win last night really though, And.

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Speaker 7: I'll say you this, they got the word from from Bass.

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Speaker 7: It's iffy outside fifty yards. I mean, they're probably one

485
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Speaker 7: of eight in warm ups from outside fifty and they

486
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Speaker 7: probably told Derma they said, all right, we're gonna pun

487
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Speaker 7: it then. Plus, I don't think Tyrod's going to go

488
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Speaker 7: the distance from the ten yard line all the way

489
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Speaker 7: down the field. We'll see what he can do. And

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Speaker 7: they probably took that matchup rather than given well like

491
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Speaker 7: they did, they missed the fifty four yard or later

492
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Speaker 7: in the game go in the other direction, So they

493
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Speaker 7: just probably said, listen, against this offense on this night,

494
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Speaker 7: with a backup quarterback, we're gonna take our chances with

495
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Speaker 7: the long field instead of giving him a half a

496
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Speaker 7: field if we absolutely if we miss a coin flip

497
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Speaker 7: from fifty five, which they ended up doing, which they

498
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Speaker 7: exactly they did it late in the game, so it's yeah,

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Speaker 7: I'm sure that went into it.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones and to Dan and Akron.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 11: Dan Well, I guess hindsight makes for good Monday morning

503
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Speaker 11: football talk, And I'm going to be a supporter of

504
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 11: the fact that Ken Dorsey absolutely abandoned the run too early.

505
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Speaker 11: And someone who's on the inside, Stephan Diggs, at the

506
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 11: end of the game said that he said, we got

507
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Speaker 11: away from the run too early, so we kind of

508
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 11: let the cat out of the bag. First couple of

509
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Speaker 11: runs by Murray where I think seven and eleven yards,

510
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Speaker 11: and then we saw Allen and shotgun like fourteen times

511
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Speaker 11: in a row. So I don't think the play calling

512
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Speaker 11: was very good in the beginning. And then my other

513
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Speaker 11: point is, you know what, a healthy quarterback if you

514
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Speaker 11: don't make it to the playoffs, is completely useless. I'm

515
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Speaker 11: not a proponent of watching him hurtle three people every game,

516
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Speaker 11: but this guy, his weapons are his legs. This is

517
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Speaker 11: a two point game. I don't know why there are

518
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Speaker 11: no more called runs for Josh Allen. We've seen one

519
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Speaker 11: rollout and it just was so nice to see and

520
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Speaker 11: to be reminded how fast he is when the play

521
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Speaker 11: is designed to run and he doesn't have to hem

522
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Speaker 11: and hawd at desperation and scramble. What's your opinion on

523
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Speaker 11: one abandoning the run in two? Do you think we

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Speaker 11: have to get him running a little more?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Good questions, Dan. They ran only nine times in the

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Speaker 2: first half through at eighteen times, that's a two to

528
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Speaker 2: one ratio. And while I think most teams in the

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Speaker 2: league are going with a quarterback anywhere near the caliber

530
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Speaker 2: of Josh Allen are going to throw more than they run,

531
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Speaker 2: because analytics has shown it's more efficient to throw the

532
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Speaker 2: ball in terms of getting the ball down the field

533
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Speaker 2: and putting points on the board, not to mention the

534
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Speaker 2: fact that the rules of the league are more favorable

535
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 2: to passing offenses, you know, based on the new defensive

536
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: holding a legal contact, passer interference and the like. All

537
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: that being said, yeah, if there's success early in the

538
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 2: run game, you'd like to see them turn to that

539
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: again and again. Why they didn't is a mystery to me.

540
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Speaker 2: I understand your frustration. I mean, flow of the game

541
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 2: sometimes can compromise those things. But in a game that

542
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: was a one score game from start to finish, it's

543
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: hard to find reasons why you would turn away from

544
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: the run attack. Now, by the time you get to

545
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: the end of the game, it's pretty even. They have

546
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 2: thirty pass attempts and twenty nine runs, so by the

547
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: end of the game it's relatively even. But in the

548
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: first half it was badly lopsided eighteen to nine. And

549
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Speaker 2: maybe the game isn't six nothing at the half if

550
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: you run the ball a little bit more. There's no

551
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Speaker 2: way for us to know. Was it catastrophic? No, did

552
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 2: it compromise the effectiveness of the offense? I suppose you

553
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: can make an argument for that. It's like Steve says

554
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: all the time, if you didn't do that and what

555
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: you did work, you should have done the other thing.

556
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Speaker 2: It's just execution. Was an issue last night. If you

557
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Speaker 2: want to lump in the coordinators, which a lot of

558
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: people are wont to do, that's your opinion, you're entitled

559
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: to it. To me, execution was the big problem last

560
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: night with two miss field goals, failure to execute on

561
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Speaker 2: third down, either because of a poor throw or a

562
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: poor catch. Well, fundamental stuff like a fumble because you're

563
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: carrying a ball on an inside arm. There were a

564
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: lot of things blocking assignments, there were penalties. It just

565
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: they just they just manifested themselves for the second straight week.

566
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Speaker 2: And this team on offense, it was a slog for

567
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Speaker 2: most of the game.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's I mean, you think

569
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 7: about it. Ken Dorsey didn't fumble that ball, he didn't

570
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 7: throw the interception, and he didn't miss two field goals,

571
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Speaker 7: and he also didn't headbutt one of the opposing players

572
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 7: to keep a drive alive. So yeah, everybody's got a

573
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 7: hand in these ugly losses. They've got a hand in

574
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 7: these ugly wins. And everybody's got a hand in the

575
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 7: blowout wins. And they've also got a hand in the

576
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 7: blowout losses. Everybody contributes. It's you know, and to single

577
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 7: anybody out on an ugly win like this, and I'll

578
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 7: say this too. You got to you really have to.

579
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 7: You got to tip your hat to the coaching staff

580
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 7: of the Giants day Ball and Wink Martindale.

581
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: Martin Dale only blitzed seven times on thirty two dropbacks.

582
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Speaker 2: That is not his mos time. They timed him perfectly.

583
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: There was a couple of times when they had guys

584
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 2: rushing free up the middle. They're chasing Josh, so they

585
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: didn't get him. They didn't have any sacks on the night,

586
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: but they held. The team held the Buffalo Bills to

587
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: fourteen points on a night when they had like a

588
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: guy who self admittedly was straight off the couch to

589
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: play offensive line for him. I mean they got You

590
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: got to tip your hat to Brian Dable on the Giants'

591
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: coaching staff for giving the Bills all they could handle

592
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: on the road in Buffalo in Orchard Park in a

593
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: primetime game when the Bills came in offensively. Pretty healthy man,

594
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Speaker 2: old man Wink Martindale did a nice job last night, yep.

595
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Speaker 2: And he committed to coverage. He committed to a team

596
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: that was blitzing at forty five percent of their snaps.

597
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: Last night. They only blitz about twenty percent of their snaps.

598
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 7: About half as much as they used less than half

599
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 7: they and it worked, and they were doubling digs all

600
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 7: over the field, and they forced the Bills to try

601
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 7: and beat somebody left handed. Now, the Bills got it done,

602
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 7: but it wasn't pretty and they didn't do a really

603
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 7: great job at it. They didn't make it look easy

604
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 7: trying to beat the Giants left handed offensively, but they

605
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 7: did get it done. And if the Giants get any

606
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 7: better play, you know from their offense, you know, the

607
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 7: Giants win that game. So you got to tip your

608
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 7: hat to the Giants coaching staff, no question about it.

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00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 7: They didn't look pretty offensively, but like you said, they

610
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 7: were just over fifty percent on third down themselves last night.

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Speaker 7: Tyrod never turns it over. Hit a couple of lob

612
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 7: balls and that ball Tyrod Man, he doesn't throw it

613
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 7: deep very much, but when he does, man, it's money.

614
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 7: I don't know why the guy didn't let it lose more.

615
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to take a break though more of

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Speaker 2: your phone calls when we come back, include it this

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Speaker 2: week's Player of the Game. All that coming your way

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Speaker 2: play at the end of the game on the untimed

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Speaker 2: down to preserve the fourteen to nine victory to break

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Speaker 2: up the pass to Darren Waller. He also had fifteen

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Speaker 2: tackles in the game, career high fifteen tackles for your

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00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: nickel corner. He was all over the field. He and

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Speaker 2: Dorian Williams and Terrell Bernard were probably three of the

630
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Speaker 2: most active players on the defensive side of the ball yesterday.

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Speaker 2: And the reason Darren Johnson is a dog man. The

632
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: guy is just tough as nails. I saw him slip attack,

633
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 2: slip a block. Darren Waller is trying to block down field.

634
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: He just ducks underneath the block and makes the tackle.

635
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: He walloped. I want to say it was Saquon Barkley,

636
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: or maybe it was Matt Brida on a run play

637
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: or a short pass in the flat and he buried

638
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: him because I remember calling the play lights out performance

639
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: by him last night. The best part was I asked

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00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: Von Miller about Taron Johnson last night in the postgame

641
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: press conference and he said, there was a time in

642
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter he comes to Taron Johnson on the sideline.

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00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: Johnson's sitting on the bench, He's looking down at the

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Speaker 2: ground staring. Vaughn is trying to pick him up, and

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00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: he says, hey, man, we ready to go, and Tarn

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Speaker 2: with a straight face, just says I'm just thinking about

647
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Speaker 2: making a play to win the game. And then he

648
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: went out and did it. There's something to that, something

649
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: about visualization. There is something about that. I did that

650
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: in my career occasionally, and guys do that, and it's

651
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: preached too to guys in the locker room. You gotta

652
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: envision yourself being successful. And you know, you hear it

653
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: in business in team building things all the time, and

654
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 2: you hear it in business where you have to envision

655
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Speaker 2: where you want to go, and guys do that. I

656
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: it's a thing, and I'm it's kind of cool to

657
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: hear Taron Johnson talk about it. It brought back a

658
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: lot of memories I've heard about and I've done it myself.

659
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Speaker 2: I've heard about guys doing it. You sit there in

660
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Speaker 2: a moment and you it prepares you for that moment

661
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Speaker 2: when it does come your way. Not enough guys do it,

662
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Speaker 2: But when when that moment comes for Terran, you.

663
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Speaker 7: Don't shy away from you and you get your army.

664
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Speaker 7: You're just like, yes, you know. And it doesn't mean

665
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Speaker 7: that he envisioned doing it right there in the middle

666
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Speaker 7: of the gold and under the goal post in the

667
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Speaker 7: middle of the field. It could have been on the

668
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 7: corner of it. But you have to envision yourself being success.

669
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Speaker 7: It's a technique that guys use, and it's awesome to

670
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Speaker 7: hear about a guy sharing it with his teammates because

671
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 7: you always feel a little crazy, you know, like I

672
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 7: am daydreaming about You speak it into it, you think it,

673
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 7: you envision it, and you go out and it gives

674
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Speaker 7: you not that you're gonna picture the exact play that

675
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Speaker 7: you're gonna do or whatever. You're not gonna not like that,

676
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 7: but it gives you the mentality of being ready for

677
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Speaker 7: when it does show up. And great job by Taron Johnson.

678
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Speaker 7: You you know it and people who listen to the

679
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 7: show all the time. Greg Cosel comes in and raves

680
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 7: about Tarn Johnson, about him being that special player that

681
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 7: allows the Bill's defense to play the way it does,

682
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 7: staying in nickel so much of the time because of

683
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Speaker 7: his ability to do so many different things, particularly like

684
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Speaker 7: you said, come up fifteen tackles later, and it gives

685
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Speaker 7: you an idea of why they can, why they play

686
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Speaker 7: him so much, and why he's such an important part.

687
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Speaker 7: That's kind of cool to hear Von Miller share that.

688
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have that a little bit later on the

689
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Speaker 2: show when we go around the locker room. But in

690
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Speaker 2: the meantime, we go back to the phones and to

691
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Speaker 2: Joe in cheek to Waga, what do you got for us?

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Speaker 12: Joe, Hello, gentlemen, just calling this morning. You know, a

693
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 12: win is a win, and I'm so happy about that.

694
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Speaker 12: If you give me this game every week and we

695
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Speaker 12: get to the super Bowl and we win the Super

696
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 12: Bowl three to nothing, I will be the happiest person

697
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Speaker 12: in the world. It just seems to me. I know

698
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 12: it's you know, the argument's been done, but something is

699
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 12: not right with this offense. And it started maybe after

700
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Speaker 12: Josh hurt his elbow last year. I feel like our

701
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Speaker 12: coaching staff. I don't know if it's Dorsey. Steve might

702
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 12: know better. I don't know if it's Dorsey or if

703
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 12: it's Dorsey playing and calling plays with in the head

704
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 12: coach's philosophy. But I feel like they are trying to

705
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Speaker 12: turn in my opinion, the greatest quarterback ever to walk

706
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Speaker 12: through Buffalo maybe the NFL. And that's saying a lot

707
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 12: the way I felt about Jim Kelly. But I feel

708
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 12: like they're trying to turn this guy into Trent Dilfer.

709
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Speaker 12: And it's sickening. You know, that passed to Dawson Knox

710
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Speaker 12: at the end of the game for that first down,

711
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 12: and that was game. Was it catchable? It was, and

712
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 12: he probably should have had it. That is not Josh Allen.

713
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Speaker 12: The Josh Allen we all know and we all love,

714
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Speaker 12: and the Josh Allen I think Josh Allen wants to

715
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Speaker 12: be would have run that ball for that first down

716
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Speaker 12: for eighty yards.

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Speaker 7: Yep, Josh, here you go. Joe, you're right, you're right.

718
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 7: But here's the thing that you're right. Maybe back in

719
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Speaker 7: the day, Josh tucks that ball, runs it blasts third

720
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Speaker 7: today for the first down. Maybe he does do that,

721
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Speaker 7: but here's what you gotta remember, there's six guys out there.

722
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 7: He's not running for that first down. But by the

723
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 7: same token, the play he made to Dawson Knox. Sooner

724
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Speaker 7: or later, great quarterbacks, even guys like Josh who run

725
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 7: the football and can win the game and carry the

726
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 7: team on his back and put the cape on and

727
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Speaker 7: do all the things we've seen him do to win

728
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 7: the Super Bowl. Quarterbacks of that nature as well as

729
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 7: every other quarterback, you gotta have guys who come through

730
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 7: for you. You gotta rely on somebody else to make a play.

731
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Speaker 7: Somebody has to step up and do something superlative. With

732
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Speaker 7: a guy who can put the cape on, I don't

733
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Speaker 7: care if he does put the cape on. Ask Cam

734
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Speaker 7: Newton how hard it is to win a Super Bowl

735
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Speaker 7: when you are superman. He couldn't get it done. They

736
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 7: were fifteen and two that year and he couldn't win

737
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 7: the Super Bowl. He got him there, but sooner or later,

738
00:38:55,120 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 7: somebody else has got to step up and make a play.

739
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 7: That's what the coaching staff's job is to do. Get

740
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Speaker 7: those other guys to elevate. And this is just a

741
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 7: simple little third down conversion. It ended up not costing

742
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Speaker 7: him the game. And it was a tough catch for

743
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Speaker 7: a six five and fifty five pound dude to pen

744
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 7: to go down backwards and catch a ball six inches

745
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 7: off at a tough play and it's a and it

746
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 7: was a it was a cruddy throw by Josh Nope.

747
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 2: After the game, he's got to put that.

748
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 7: Ball right out out. It's an easy throw he couldn't make.

749
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Speaker 7: And that's that's that. But sooner or later, both ends

750
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 7: of that pass have got to be better. They've got

751
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 7: to be a yes, not on Ken Dorsey, Ken Dorsey

752
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 7: schemed Dawson Knox. He's all open and that play puts

753
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 7: a game away, makes it easy. We can all take

754
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 7: a deep breath and they blew it. That's just one.

755
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 7: There's probably fifteen of those in the game, for both

756
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 7: sides of the ball. But sooner or later, your quarterback, who,

757
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 7: as you say, Joe, might be the best guy ever.

758
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 7: He may be, But sooner or later, somebody else got

759
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 7: to do something. Somebody else got to help him, right,

760
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 7: somebody's got to get off his back and help him

761
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 7: lift right.

762
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Speaker 2: If there's one thing that I would agree with you on,

763
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Speaker 2: Joe it's that it's clear to me and probably you too,

764
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Speaker 2: that it has been drilled into Josh's head to not

765
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: run as much. That is readily apparent to us. There

766
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: have been numerous examples through the first six games where

767
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 2: Josh has had an opportunity to run for the first down,

768
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: whether you're going all the way back to week one

769
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: where he throws an interception when he had thirty yards

770
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 2: of green grass in front of him, or yesterday. If

771
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: you want to argue that third and eight, I'm not

772
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: so sure he.

773
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 7: Would have got it.

774
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 2: Maybe he would, but it is clear to me they

775
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 2: have drilled that part into his head. Do not run

776
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: as much. We don't want you risking your body. We'd

777
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: rather have you play for another down. So if you

778
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: want to argue that, I will listen to that, because

779
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 2: I think he has been told, in no uncertain terms,

780
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: run less, protect yourself, make plays with your arm. He's

781
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,959
Speaker 2: tried to do that, sometimes with success, sometimes not so much.

782
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: If you think it's taking away from who his identity

783
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: is as a player, and you want to make that argument,

784
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 2: that's fine, that's right. Let's see how it plays out

785
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: in the long run. Here, it's only six games.

786
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 7: The point is this, that player was right, that play

787
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 7: was right there. Just to throw the ball, execute it,

788
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 7: to make execute the play and everybody's happy. Josh never

789
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 7: even risks running the ball. He never risks getting piled

790
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 7: on by four guys out of bounds and nothing. Just

791
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 7: throw the ball out there, let Dawson Knox catch it,

792
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 7: slide inside in bounds, and the game's over. But Kennich,

793
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 7: that's the stuff. You got to execute. That play is

794
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 7: as important as a first quarter third down as well.

795
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 7: That was incomplete to Knocks in the first drive of

796
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 7: the game, or the first the second drive where they

797
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 7: were down on the thirty seven yard line. You know

798
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 7: it was. It was an incomplete pass, a completed pass

799
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 7: to Digs for no gain, an incomplete pass to Knocks

800
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 7: and they punt it from the opponent's thirty seven yards.

801
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 7: Those plays are all important. You just got to execute him.

802
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 7: Dave Davis, tuck the ball away. You don't get crushed

803
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 7: on that first series. You know, all that stuff, they're

804
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 7: all Every play is important because it spins the game

805
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 7: off into another direction. But as far as Josh running

806
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 7: the football, listen, he's healthy today.

807
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: We hope you.

808
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 7: Just got to throw the ball out there. That's why

809
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 7: you don't want him to run, because those plays are

810
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 7: the easy ones. Just you throw, toss it out there

811
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 7: and make the play. That's why you don't want him

812
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 7: to run. If he runs that ball, how hard do

813
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 7: you think those giants are trying to tackle that guy?

814
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 13: Right?

815
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 7: They want that guy, They want to crush him.

816
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 2: Break time for us here more of your phone calls

817
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Speaker 2: when we return. So if you're holding an eight O

818
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Speaker 2: three zero five fifty, hang tight. We'll try to get

819
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Speaker 2: to you next Here On one Bill's Live Stay Tuned

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Speaker 2: Numbers that Matter, presented by the New York Lottery Bill's

821
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Speaker 2: Wide Receivers, Stefan Diggs became just a fifth player in

822
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl era with one hundred plus yards in

823
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Speaker 2: five of his team's first six games in a season,

824
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Speaker 2: joining Adam Thielen, Stanley Morgan, Michael Irvin, and Marvin Harrison

825
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Speaker 2: two Hall of famers on that list. That's a pretty

826
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Speaker 2: good company, So congrats to Stefan on that. He also

827
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Speaker 2: moved into fourth place on the Bill's all time list

828
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Speaker 2: in receptions, moving past Lee Evans.

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Speaker 7: That's graphic that we're looking at. Stanley Morgan, Adam Thielen,

830
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Speaker 7: Michael Irvin, Marvin Harrison, Stanley Morgan nineteen eighty six, he

831
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Speaker 7: went to the eighty seven Pro Bowl. That was my

832
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 7: first Pro Bowl. I played with Stanley Morgan in that

833
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 7: Pro Bowl. Well, there you go. In that year he

834
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 7: had looking backed out of the park for the New

835
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 7: England and Patriots.

836
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Speaker 2: Pretty remarkable, good company to be in. Step off to

837
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: a hot start. Let's get back to the phones, though,

838
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 2: as we're asking for your takeaways from yesterday's fourteen to

839
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: nine nail Bier over the Giants and to DJ and Hamburg. Next,

840
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Speaker 2: what do you got, DJ?

841
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Speaker 14: Christian State?

842
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 15: Wow?

843
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 14: Ugly, frustrating, frantic, excruciating, exhausting and exciting, unbelievable.

844
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 7: Give me more of that if we can win them.

845
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: I don't know if I want more.

846
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Speaker 14: You're right about that. I got two things I want

847
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 14: to ask you. On the two tripping instance, I think

848
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 14: it was Gay Davison Surefield. Where they penalties are at.

849
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 2: I thought they were. They didn't flag them.

850
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Speaker 7: I'll say this.

851
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Speaker 2: I mean, you can argue that it's incidental contact, and

852
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: I get that.

853
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 7: But it didn't look deliberate, no question about it.

854
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: But to me, if you're not going to call that.

855
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: You're inviting defenders to do that, to act like, oh incidental, Sorry,

856
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 2: didn't mean to trip you there. I was looking for

857
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: the ball, honestly, you there. Sorry, Right, it's a penalty.

858
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: You repeated the guy's ability to make a play on

859
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: the ball when he was clearly starting to run open.

860
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 7: And I'll say this, I was sitting next to Murph

861
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 7: in the booth last night, John Murphy next to us,

862
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 7: and he was behind us, and we looked at each

863
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 7: other and he goes, nah, he can't call that stuff, right.

864
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 7: I'm like, dude, yeah, you know, because it did look

865
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 7: innocent and it didn't. And they said on the first

866
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 7: where the guy actually kind of pulled him down stuff. Listen,

867
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 7: he was falling out. I don't know about all it did.

868
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 7: Look let's say it was innocent. It opens up a

869
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 7: can of worms.

870
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,959
Speaker 2: Well you can't. You can't not throw a flag because

871
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 2: the guy didn't mean to do it.

872
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 7: Right. Intent is irrelevant. It's irrelevant in all penalties. It's

873
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 7: not the end unless it's a you know, fist.

874
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 2: I was largely unimpressed with that officiating crew.

875
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 7: Yeah I I I was. I went with you. I

876
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 7: think you got to call that stuff, because if you don't,

877
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 7: you open up the possibility they're gonna do it.

878
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, oh that's a good All of a.

879
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 7: Sudden, they act like, you know, there antenna, what am

880
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 7: I gonna do?

881
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,959
Speaker 2: Ah? Sorry, just run with things that step on his heel,

882
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 2: give him a flat tire.

883
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 7: And I don't know if I don't want to reference

884
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 7: anything too much, but the buffalo with the wings who says,

885
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 7: oh what if I back up? And I'm like, oh,

886
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, and I trampled him, and you know it's

887
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 7: a it's a joke commercial. That's what you're asking for.

888
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 7: I was an accident. I didn't mean to, you know,

889
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 7: trip him up another again for the fifth time.

890
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: It's a given inch take a mile situation. Defenders, just

891
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 2: like anybody else, are looking for an edge. And if

892
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: they sense that there's an edge there and you're never

893
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: gonna call it, well, they'll find a way to step

894
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: on somebody's heel, give him a flat tire so they

895
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 2: can't run and make a play on the ball. Yeah,

896
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 2: especially if they're beat, which both of those guys were.

897
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 7: They were. They were totally toasted, and yeah, I was

898
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 7: you always I always see that called yeah, I don't know.

899
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 2: It bothered me.

900
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 7: It did me too.

901
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: Let's go to Dave in Rochester next. What's up Dave?

902
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 13: Hey, guys. Yeah, ugly game to watch, the painful, but

903
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 13: one of the highlights I loved was that touchdown pass

904
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 13: to Quinton Morris. I mean, that window closed so quickly.

905
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 13: I don't know how many quarterbacks can throw that ball,

906
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 13: but that was amazing to me.

907
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. Patrick Mahomes is probably the only other one I

908
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 2: have to do that.

909
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, it'd be That's.

910
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 2: A Josh Allen play all the way.

911
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 7: We know one guy that can make that throw, and

912
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 7: everybody else would have to prove it.

913
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: The most impressive part about that play whereas he avoided

914
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 2: pressure in two different areas in the pocket, rolled out

915
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: to buy time, and then as soon as Quinton Morris

916
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 2: goes into the scramble drill and turns his shoulder, the

917
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 2: ball is already out of Josh's hands as he turns

918
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 2: the shoulder. If it's not Jason Pinnock is breaking up

919
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: that pass or maybe even intercepting the ball. So Josh

920
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: anticipatory throw because as soon as Morris turns his shoulder,

921
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: he's not even out of that break and the ball's

922
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: already on the way. That's the only reason it fit

923
00:47:59,239 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: in there.

924
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 7: And I'll say this as a receiver, I remember thinking this,

925
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 7: not too much because I didn't play receiver all that much.

926
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 7: But when Morris comes around, that ball's already there. Morris

927
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 7: spins around. As as he's spinning around, you catch the

928
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 7: defender coming towards you. So Quentin knows the guy's closing

929
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 7: on him from the inside as well as turning away

930
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 7: from the guy on the outside. He knows when the

931
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 7: ball's coming. You do that mental calculation of is the

932
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 7: ball going to get here first? And when that ball's

933
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 7: coming at the velocity it was, he goes yeah. So

934
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 7: that gives him the confidence and no, he can go up,

935
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 7: grab it and brace before the guy's going to get

936
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 7: there to light him up. So the velocity and the

937
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 7: target of the ball tells Morris. He goes, I got

938
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 7: a chance at this when he comes out, and sure

939
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 7: enough he went up, caught it with his chest, crunched

940
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 7: it up and took the hit and it's a touchdown.

941
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 7: It was a great throw. It's a great throw.

942
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: Let's squeeze in John from Massachusetts here next. What do

943
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 2: you got for us, John, just want to give.

944
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 16: A little all right rip no, no, there's no h

945
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 16: no pictures in the wins and losses column. Just wanted

946
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 16: to touch on real quick. I feel like last couple

947
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 16: of games, defenses and they really know how to play,

948
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 16: Josh Allen, the Bills is just two deep safeties, take

949
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 16: away the twenty plus yarders. And I think yesterday at

950
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 16: some point in the second quarter we were it was

951
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 16: like eleven targets to digs, three to Gabe Davis. I

952
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 16: feel like the Bills offense really starts to quick when

953
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 16: we spread the ball around, saw it after you know,

954
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 16: we got bottled up against the Jets week one, start

955
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 16: to really move it around against the Raiders, move it

956
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 16: around against the Commanders. I'd like to see us just

957
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 16: kind of take a step back, settle down, take what

958
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 16: the defense gives us. If it's the dank and dunks

959
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 16: and the runs. Next week against the Pats, take that

960
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 16: all day, makes them bring the safeties up, and then

961
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 16: you start hitting digs Gape Davis for the big ones.

962
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 16: And in the past two you can definitely see uh.

963
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 16: I think it was twenty twenty one, after we you know,

964
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 16: had lost a couple tough ones like against the Bucks,

965
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 16: and then last part of that year we settled down. Yeah,

966
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 16: they won six in a row underneath and then yeah

967
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 16: so and then I also just wanted to real quick

968
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 16: give a shout out to my boys, Rob Aaron and

969
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 16: Mark Gobill's fellows.

970
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 2: Let's go all right, fair enough, John, thanks for the calls. Yeah,

971
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you should put it in perspective. It's an

972
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 2: ugly victory. But the Bills have these games each of

973
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 2: the last few years. I mean, twenty twenty one, you

974
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: got the nine to six Jags game and a three

975
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 2: game losing streak in like Week fourteen, they win the

976
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 2: last five and they kill it in the playoffs, you know,

977
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 2: unfortunately before thirteen seconds. And then last year you lose

978
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 2: back to back games to the Jets and the Vikings

979
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: in overtime, and they win six in a row after that. Now,

980
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's guaranteed to happen this time, but

981
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 2: they have these lulls in the season where they just

982
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: don't play their best. Be glad they actually won the

983
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 2: game yesterday, because in the previous two seasons they lost

984
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: those games.

985
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 7: I'll say this too about the slow start. It's hard

986
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 7: it's hard to play well offensively in the league. It's

987
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 7: it's hard to do that. And sometimes, like with the

988
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 7: Miami Dolphins game and all that stuff, it looks easy,

989
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 7: you know, in some games and some of the other stuff,

990
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 7: the Raiders and the Commanders games, it kind of looked easy. Okay,

991
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 7: it's not easy. And those early the two penalties we

992
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 7: talked about, the ones where you get tripped up on

993
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 7: long balls. Listen, if you hit a couple of long

994
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 7: balls on a good defense, it changes things going forward.

995
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 7: But because they didn't hit them, the defense feels like, Okay,

996
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 7: we're doing okay. We don't have to adjust like we

997
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 7: thought we might.

998
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 3: Have.

999
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 7: An early success affects the defense as much as it

1000
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 7: affects the psych of the offense. You force that defense

1001
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 7: to reevaluate and listen, if they're nicking us, we can't

1002
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 7: do that anymore. The fumble and gave Davis fumble that

1003
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 7: they're off the field. Hey, it's great. We don't care

1004
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 7: that we gave up a fifteen yard crossing route to

1005
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 7: Gabe Davis. There was a fumble. We get it. Let's go.

1006
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 7: Our defense is playing great. Everything changes when you have

1007
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 7: a little success and those target shares you talked about

1008
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 7: early and the way you know, the dink and dunk

1009
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 7: stuff listening. If those guys gonna get tripped up on

1010
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 7: two successive series, that's a different game, and that's a

1011
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 7: different defense you're looking at. So it all, you know,

1012
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 7: we don't know how these games play out other than

1013
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 7: the fact that we missed some opportunities. Because those opportunities

1014
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 7: that you hit on affect things going forward. You're right,

1015
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 7: defenses may have an idea about how to stop the Bills.

1016
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 2: But Bills had one play of twenty yards or more.

1017
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 2: The Giants had four. Two of them were unplays. But

1018
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: the Giants had four times the number of plays if

1019
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 2: twenty yards or more to that of the Bills. And

1020
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 2: you bet your bottom dollar that Belichick and the Patriots

1021
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 2: are going to take a page out of Wink Martindale's

1022
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 2: book to hold down Buffalo's offense and eliminate the big

1023
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: play element as well. Break time for us here. Our

1024
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 2: number two will begin with the Maddie Awards back after

1025
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 2: a loss last week. The Maddie Awards returns an hour

1026
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 2: number two and then more of your phone calls here

1027
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,320
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1028
00:53:12,320 --> 00:54:56,200
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1029
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live, presented by Callida Health.

1030
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,200
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1031
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 2: a bills Victory Monday. Chris Brown, Steve Taster, and join

1032
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 2: now by Bill's reporter Maddy glab Because after a Bill's victory,

1033
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 2: we get to see Maddie on Mondays. For what else,

1034
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:30,520
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1035
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,000
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1036
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 17: Yeah, I'm with you.

1037
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 18: I know we took a break last week, but we're

1038
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 18: back here.

1039
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 17: I don't care if it was not so pretty victory.

1040
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 17: We've got things to celebrate.

1041
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 18: We got to talk about some of the good things

1042
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 18: that came out of last night's game. So we'll start

1043
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 18: first with our best Catch Award, and that's going to

1044
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 18: Quintin Morris. He had an opportunity last night with Don

1045
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 18: Kincaid out of the lineup.

1046
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 17: He was in concussion protocol all week.

1047
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 18: Hopefully we'll get an update on him when we hear

1048
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 18: from Sean later this afternoon. But Quinton Morris played about

1049
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 18: eighteen snaps last night, so thirty percent of the game

1050
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 18: he gets one target. It happens to be in a

1051
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 18: big time moment in the end zone, makes a great

1052
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 18: grab for a touchdown. This gives the Bills the lead

1053
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 18: with three minutes and forty eight seconds left to go

1054
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 18: in the game. I mean, Josh Allen fit the ball

1055
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 18: in a super tight window and Quinton Morris did a

1056
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 18: great job with those strong hands to make the catch.

1057
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 17: You need people to step up in moments like this.

1058
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 18: It doesn't matter if your starter, it doesn't matter if

1059
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 18: you come in for five snaps. And he answered the call,

1060
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 18: did what he needed to do in that moment. Love

1061
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 18: that for him, Love that this is his first touchdown

1062
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 18: of the season. Hopefully we see a little bit more

1063
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 18: of that going forward for Quinton Morris, because when the

1064
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 18: ball's thrown his way, he has made some great grabs

1065
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 18: in the past when he's been called upon.

1066
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 2: And that's a broken play number one, so he's you know,

1067
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 2: executing scramble rules at that point in time to get

1068
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: open for his quarterback. And more importantly, the play before that,

1069
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 2: he limped off the field. He had hurt his right

1070
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: foot or ankle or something. He was limping off the field.

1071
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 2: He's out for one play and then he goes back

1072
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: into the game for that play. He knows Dalton Kincaid's down.

1073
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 2: They're down tight ends, so it's got to get a

1074
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 2: two tight end play with Reggie Gilliam in the game

1075
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 2: as well. He comes in the game and gets rewarded.

1076
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 7: You can see the celebration too. He's hopping on one foot. Yeah,

1077
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 7: so he'll probably he was dinged. He'll be on their injuries.

1078
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 17: Hopefully he's all right.

1079
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 7: But yeah, it's great, great catch. We've seen him do

1080
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 7: that before in the Mining game last year. We had

1081
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 7: that catch around the body of the defender.

1082
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 17: He's got good hands.

1083
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's got really good.

1084
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 2: Hands, all right. Moving along to the no fly zone.

1085
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 17: No fly zone.

1086
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 18: Shout out to the defense for not allowing a touchdown

1087
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 18: in yesterday's game. I think we need to recognize that.

1088
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 18: I mean, nine points on the scoreboard is what they

1089
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 18: let up. This Giants team was averaging just over twelve

1090
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 18: points per game. They go under that with nine points.

1091
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 18: Heading into this one, the Bills defense had only allowed

1092
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 18: four passing touchdowns. Now they have only allowed four passing

1093
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 18: touchdowns in six games to start the season. You know,

1094
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 18: you have to have guys who step up in the

1095
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 18: absence of Trey White, Matt Malano, and day Kwon Jones.

1096
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 17: And they did that last night.

1097
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 18: They had a big goal lying stand at the end

1098
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 18: of the first half and then the defense kept the

1099
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 18: score low to give the offense a chance to win

1100
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 18: this one. That's what you needed. So shout out to

1101
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 18: the defense for keeping the score low with just nine points,

1102
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,959
Speaker 18: not surrendering a touchdown against this team.

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00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was five in the red zone.

1104
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 7: Fantastic job by the defense, and you know, they they

1105
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 7: just they just rose up at the moments that it was.

1106
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 7: It was a great defensive performance against a team that

1107
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 7: with a quarterback that you didn't know exactly what he was,

1108
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 7: you were going to get he they threw some deep balls,

1109
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 7: got nicked for a couple of big plays. Yeah, all

1110
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 7: in all, when it got close, the tyrod was not

1111
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 7: going to turn it over. He never does, and they

1112
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 7: didn't and pulled out the victory.

1113
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 2: Seal the deal.

1114
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 17: Seal the deal.

1115
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 18: We talk about the defense giving the offense a chance

1116
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 18: to win this one, and that's what they needed to do.

1117
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,919
Speaker 18: At the end of the game with just a few

1118
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,959
Speaker 18: minutes left on the clock. You need two big stops there,

1119
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 18: and they did exactly that with a five point leaders

1120
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 18: what the Bills had and almost four minutes left on

1121
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 18: the clock. So the defensive, the defense forces a turnover

1122
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 18: on downs, which was huge. The Giants try and convert

1123
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 18: a third and eight, then they try and go for

1124
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 18: a fourth and eight. Both were incomplete passes and give

1125
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 18: gives the offense the ball back, and fortunately that was

1126
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 18: a quick drive by the offense a missed field goal.

1127
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 18: So the Giants had one last drive to put some

1128
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 18: things together and try and beat the Bills. They get

1129
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 18: the ball on their thirty seven yard line. The Bills

1130
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 18: did unfortunately with that missed field goal. But the Giants

1131
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 18: then get a thirteen play drive going and you're thinking, Okay,

1132
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 18: what's gonna happen here. They've got some momentum the ar

1133
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 18: to move the ball. You have a first and goal

1134
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 18: situation with one final chance to score, and it did

1135
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 18: not happen. It did not happen because of Taron Johnson.

1136
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 18: And that is our next award.

1137
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 17: The Hunter. This guy is so underrated.

1138
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 18: He's made some huge plays in his Bill's career, whether

1139
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 18: it be a pick six, whether it be knocking the

1140
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 18: ball out of Darren Waller's hand. So the Bills win

1141
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 18: the game. Kudos to Taron Johnson for being in the moment,

1142
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 18: for being up for the challenge. Von Miller said in

1143
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 18: his postgame interview after the game, he said, I asked

1144
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 18: Taron Johnson on the sideline during the game what he

1145
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 18: was doing, because he was kind of just staring off

1146
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 18: into space looking at the ground, and Taron Johnson said,

1147
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 18: I'm envisioning making a game changing play at the end

1148
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 18: of this one, and that's exactly what he did. Arren

1149
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 18: Johnson five to eleven, Darren Waller six ' six, the

1150
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 18: five eleven guy knocks the ball out of the six

1151
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 18: to six guys hands.

1152
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 17: So what a great play by him to.

1153
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 18: Understand what was going on with that play, to understand

1154
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 18: who his guy was and what was asked of him

1155
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 18: in that moment with the game on the line, to

1156
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 18: come up with knocking the ball away with it being

1157
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 18: an incomplete pass. And the Bills get the win because

1158
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 18: of that final big play by Arren Johnson.

1159
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 7: And then then Bill struggled with the Giants who were

1160
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 7: now one and five. There were a couple of other

1161
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 7: teams who were considered contenders who also struggled, and you're

1162
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 7: giving out awards for that too, because hey, it's not

1163
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 7: just us.

1164
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 17: We got to talk about it. Upset City.

1165
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 18: That's going to the Browns and the Jets taking down

1166
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 18: the two remaining undefeated teams. And there were some pretty

1167
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 18: big upsets in yesterday's slate of games, and also some

1168
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 18: weird scores as well.

1169
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 17: This this week, Week six was a little bit weird.

1170
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 18: Thankfully, the bill end up getting the win in a

1171
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 18: low scoring game, but the Browns beat the forty nine

1172
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 18: Ers nineteen to seventeen.

1173
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 17: PJ.

1174
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 18: Walker started the game for the Browns and the forty

1175
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 18: nine Ers missed a forty one yard field goal with

1176
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 18: nine seconds left on the clock, and then the Jets

1177
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 18: upset the Eagles with the final score of twenty to fourteen.

1178
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 18: Jalen Hurts had three interceptions. On his final interception there

1179
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 18: was one minute and fifty seconds left to go in

1180
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 18: the game. The Jets turned the I int into points

1181
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 18: and got the lead with under two minutes left to play.

1182
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 18: The final drive for the Eagles I think was a

1183
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 18: turnover on downs. So the Jets and the Browns getting

1184
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 18: the job done.

1185
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 2: Even the Chiefs won ugly. Yeah yeah, the second time

1186
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: in three weeks.

1187
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 7: The Chiefs won out and also the Dolphins were down

1188
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 7: fourteen nothing before they came out and got things straightened

1189
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 7: out and hung forty on the Carolina Panthers. So it

1190
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 7: looked like one of the like something in the water

1191
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 7: this weekend. But also one last award for our owner,

1192
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 7: give me a out gets a shout out.

1193
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 18: Shout out to Jesse Pegoula, the number fourth ranked player

1194
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 18: in the world right now.

1195
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 17: She gets her fourth career.

1196
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 18: WTA singles title, second of this year. It was in

1197
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 18: South Korea. It was the Korea Open, So shout out

1198
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 18: to Jesse Pegoula for keeping on winning. She's been in

1199
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 18: the news in the best way possible with the with

1200
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 18: the year she's had so far so far, her second

1201
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 18: win of the season. And I think it's a little

1202
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 18: bit special too, winning like this in the Korea Open

1203
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 18: in South Korea, knowing that Kim Pagoula is from Seoul

1204
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 18: in South Korea, which is where this tournament was played.

1205
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 18: I know it feels a little bit a little bit

1206
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 18: more special when you are when you have ties to

1207
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 18: the place that you're winning and the place that you're playing.

1208
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 18: And Jesse took to social media to just explain how special.

1209
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 17: This win was for her.

1210
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty cool deal for sure. Okay, good job on

1211
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 2: the Maddy Awards here this week, Maddie. We better see

1212
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: you next Monday. And it'll be pretty annoyed if we

1213
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 2: don't going up to play in New England this Sunday.

1214
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 2: So hopefully we start another streak here after it got

1215
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 2: interrupted after a three game winning streak.

1216
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 17: I think we can do it.

1217
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, there we go and believe in Yeah, this would

1218
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 7: be nice. This would be a delicious win if we

1219
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 7: can do it this week.

1220
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 2: All right, So those are the Maddie Awards, as we said,

1221
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 2: presented by Energy Mark, the official energy supplier to the

1222
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills.

1223
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 9: Uh.

1224
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 2: We pivot back to the phone calls here, as we've

1225
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 2: got plenty of people waiting at eight oh three five

1226
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 2: point fifty one eight eight eight five point fifty two,

1227
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 2: five fifty and here we go to next year. We're

1228
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 2: going to go to Ron in Hamburg. We'll go to

1229
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 2: Ron and Hamburg next Ron, what do you got for us?

1230
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:45,439
Speaker 2: You're on One Bill's Live.

1231
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Speaker 12: Hello, gentlemen.

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Speaker 19: My only thing is that I sit here and listen

1233
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 19: to this and it really aggravates me that we can

1234
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 19: certainly criticize this coaching staff in the way they do

1235
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 19: things and not think that they're a bad coaching staff.

1236
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 19: But we have to honest and that Steve keeps telling

1237
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 19: everybody that it's a if. It's a players league in

1238
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 19: players and need to make plays, but you still need

1239
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 19: to put players in good positions. He talked to somebody

1240
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 19: last week and he's talking about Kincaid not running through

1241
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 19: somebody in the flat. Well, that immediately tells me that's

1242
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 19: a bad play call because Dawson can care Dalton Kin

1243
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 19: Kate should be running straight up the seam and not

1244
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 19: on the flat. If you put him in a bad spot,

1245
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 19: then he can't perform to his to his max.

1246
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 7: And what makes you think wrong? What makes you think

1247
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 7: that a flat is a bad spot for Dalton Kid?

1248
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 19: This the same reason that the flat would be a

1249
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 19: bad spot for say On Beasley. That's not his strength.

1250
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 19: It's a bad spot because he should be running.

1251
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 20: Up the seam.

1252
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 21: That's where he's that's.

1253
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 10: Where he excels. That's where he excels.

1254
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 19: Secondarily, before you gotta get rid of me, we should

1255
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 19: not be praising this defense for stopping the Giants every

1256
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 19: team that they played this year. Except for one off

1257
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 19: the Giants. Their quarterbacks are horrible. They have a horrible

1258
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 19: offensive line that was missing three people. They brought a

1259
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 19: guy off the couch and we stopped the Giants.

1260
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 20: Of course we did.

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01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 19: They're terrible.

1262
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 7: Okay, so they stink because they did it.

1263
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 21: Look, they did it because everybody does it.

1264
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 15: It's not to praise them because they did it.

1265
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 7: Right, Okay, So all right, so they all right, I

1266
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 7: don't know what you want us to say about the defense,

1267
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 7: then okay, go ahead.

1268
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 19: They did what they did what everybody does. Nothing special,

1269
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 19: they did what everybody does. The Cowboys put zero on them,

1270
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 19: everybody gets them. To that point, what what would we

1271
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 19: need to start putting players in good spots? We need

1272
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 19: to let Josh do his thing. If we continue to

1273
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 19: say that he as a pocket passer. You guys talked

1274
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 19: about it a couple of seconds ago. Why are they

1275
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 19: running two deep safeties because Josh ain't running?

1276
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 15: Who cares?

1277
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 19: Set everybody back because Josh won't run because our play

1278
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 19: call doesn't allow him to do what he does. He's

1279
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 19: a unicorn.

1280
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 20: Let him be that.

1281
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm going to try to respect where

1282
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 2: you're coming from on that ron as far as the

1283
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 2: defense goes, you can't blame the Bills for who is

1284
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 2: on their schedule and who they have to play. The

1285
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 2: defense did what everybody else does. Okay, well, it was

1286
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 2: good enough to win a football game. They held him

1287
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 2: zero for five in the red zone. They did give

1288
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 2: up some yards, but it is what it is. As

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Speaker 2: for the offense, if your tight end can't run a

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Speaker 2: flat route, then you've got a problem. I understand wanting

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Speaker 2: to put players in position to succeed, but the play

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Speaker 2: that was called worked. He was open. They just have

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Speaker 2: to execute the play. I mean, you can't take all

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Speaker 2: of the blame off the players and put it all

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Speaker 2: on the coordinates.

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Speaker 7: Dalton Kin k is not going to be allowed to

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Speaker 7: run any route other than a seam route right down

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Speaker 7: the middle one hundred percent of the time, every.

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Speaker 2: Single I would argue that seventy five percent of dalton

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Speaker 2: kin Kay's catches this year have been outside the numbers

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Speaker 2: because they try to take away the middle of the field,

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Speaker 2: and that's what the Giants were doing also, So I mean, to.

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Speaker 7: Me, I'm sorry that seemed like an overreaction that caller.

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01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 7: That's a little bit of an overreaction. An overgeneralization of

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Speaker 7: what's going on. Thanks for the call, and I know

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01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 7: that it's I know that there's some things that and

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01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 7: that was an ugly win, you know, no question about

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01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 7: it was excruciating to watch. But I'll say it again,

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Speaker 7: even after a win like that, and even after a

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Speaker 7: loss like that, certainly you're gonna adjust, and you're gonna

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Speaker 7: correct and you're gonna go move forward. The Bills have

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Speaker 7: got to find a way to get a faster start

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Speaker 7: to a game offensively. Last two games, it's been a problem.

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Speaker 7: You can you can say what you want about jet

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Speaker 7: lag and stuff in London. This one, I don't know

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Speaker 7: that there's excuses for this one other than the fact

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Speaker 7: that they should have called some pass interference on the

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Speaker 7: tripping calls. Other than that, you're right, I'm not. This

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Speaker 7: isn't This is the same offensive coaching staff that was

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Speaker 7: that are hanging big points on other teams, and you

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01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 7: run into a team like the Giants and they stone

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Speaker 7: you for a couple of series. With a little help,

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01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 7: you got to overcome it. I get it. And I

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Speaker 7: know that everybody wants Josh to put this capon and

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Speaker 7: spread his wings, but I'm telling you, the club is

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01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 7: handling Josh the exact right way. You got to do it.

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Speaker 7: Sooner or later, Josh Allen is gonna have to get

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Speaker 7: some help from the guys who were playing offense with him.

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Speaker 7: He cannot win the Super Bowl, he can't win a

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Speaker 7: playoff game without help from the guys around him. You

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Speaker 7: gotta cultivate that.

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Speaker 2: You can't have it both ways. What was the complain

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Speaker 2: of What was the complaint last year, Maddie, Josh is

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01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 2: doing too much. Somebody else has got to help him out.

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Speaker 2: He can't do it all by himself. We have callers

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Speaker 2: callings say, and he can't do it all by himself.

1337
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Speaker 2: Now that they're trying to get other people involved, now

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Speaker 2: it's like, hey, you got to let Josh be Josh.

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01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:44,719
Speaker 2: It's like, well, you can't have it both ways.

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Speaker 18: On the broadcast last night, Mike Trico said, in their

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Speaker 18: meeting with Josh Allen, Josh said, I'm not doing those

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Speaker 18: things anymore.

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Speaker 17: I'm not doing that anymore.

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01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 18: I'm old enough, I'm wise enough, I'm smart enough in

1345
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 18: my years in the NFL and the experience that I

1346
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 18: have to know that I'm not gonna make those silly

1347
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 18: decisions anymore. I'm not going to be hero Josh every

1348
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 18: time I step on the field, because I know better

1349
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 18: than that. I know that I deserve to do that

1350
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 18: because of my team, because the guys on the field,

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01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 18: I also need to get them involved in things. And

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Speaker 18: and I've been hearing that from my coaches and the

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01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 18: offensive coordinator that I need to operate in this way

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Speaker 18: because that's that's what allows our offense to get going.

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Speaker 18: Of course, Josh is gonna be Josh in the moments

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Speaker 18: that he needs to be, and I think there's a

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Speaker 18: window for him to do that. I don't think the

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Speaker 18: offensive coordinator and Ken Dorsey or a head coach and

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01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 18: Sean McDermott is tying Josh's hands behind his back and saying, Josh,

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Speaker 18: You're not allowed to ever do any of this. It's

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Speaker 18: just be smart within what is given to you, within

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01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 18: the amount of time on the clock, or or in

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01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 18: the quarter, or depending on what quarter it is, depending

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01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 18: on what down in distance it is. There's all these

1365
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 18: things that you have to be aware of before you.

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Speaker 17: Go and make decisions like this.

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Speaker 18: And I think we've seen him do a great job

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01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 18: after that first game this season of making the right

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01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 18: decisions when it matters, and I think sure at some

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Speaker 18: point we're gonna see Josh break one off for a run,

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Speaker 18: and it's gonna be because he needed to and because

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Speaker 18: the coaching staff is allowing him to decide to do

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01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 18: what's best, knowing that, hey, he is, he's not a

1374
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 18: young quarterback anymore. He's been there, he's done that, he

1375
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 18: has grown, he's learned from his mistakes, and now we're seeing,

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01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 18: hopefully the best version of himself as he continues to

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01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 18: go throughout the season.

1378
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Speaker 2: Got a good update to pass along to you from

1379
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 2: ESPN's Jeremy Fowler. Damien Harris has been released from a

1380
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 2: local hospital here in Buffalo after being transported there last

1381
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 2: night with his neck injury. He has neck pain, but

1382
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 2: otherwise reports are he's going to be fine, So certainly

1383
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 2: good news on Damian Harris. Obviously, we'll see where things

1384
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 2: stand come Wednesday when the first injury report is put out,

1385
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 2: and maybe we get a further update from head coach

1386
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott this afternoon when he addresses the media at

1387
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 2: four pm. Back to the phones and to Bill in

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01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 2: New Jersey, next, what do you got for us?

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Speaker 7: Bill? Oh?

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Speaker 15: Yes, I was at the game. Last night, and now

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01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 15: I'm driving back from Buffalo back to northern New Jersey.

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01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 15: And let me tell you, those two mixed field goals

1393
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 15: that were aligned right by the Bills walk back some

1394
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 15: great memories. But that's not the reason for my call.

1395
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 15: The reason for my call is to disagree vmily with

1396
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 15: your interpretation of that of the last play of the game.

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01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 15: The reason why Darren Waller cannot make a play on

1398
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 15: the ball there is because Tron Johnson is holding out

1399
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 15: in his left arm. I don't care if they call

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01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 15: three plays three plays in a row pass there Faurus

1401
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,839
Speaker 15: before that, you gotta call the fourth. That is blatant

1402
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 15: Holden who said it was Holden. You can't spend You

1403
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 15: can't spend twenty minutes going off on incidental the cornerback,

1404
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 15: you receiver getting their legs tangled out, and acknowledge the

1405
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 15: fact that there there should have been one more plans

1406
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 15: end of that game. You gotta watch the tape and

1407
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 15: get the correct interpretation.

1408
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 2: Well, I said he tugged on him a little bit.

1409
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 2: But the back judge who's making that call doesn't have

1410
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 2: a view of that. He can't see through Darren Waller

1411
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 2: to see what Taron Johnson's doing. So, you know you

1412
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 2: want to blame the back judge, I don't know how

1413
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 2: you can. He can't see Aaron Johnson tugging his jersey there.

1414
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 2: You know you can see that.

1415
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 7: And I'll say this, we're just watching it right now, Bill,

1416
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 7: and thanks for calling. We're watching it now. And I'm

1417
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 7: telling you, I don't think Waller could catch that ball.

1418
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 2: Period, wasn't even through.

1419
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 7: Even if Taron Johnson wasn't there.

1420
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 2: You got a six foot six I really don't think he.

1421
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 7: Could have caught it. But you're right if if you

1422
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 7: want to make those calls, you gotta make them. But

1423
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 7: if you're gonna make them, you gotta make them every play,

1424
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 7: not just on the goal line in the fourth quarter.

1425
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 7: And there's a ton of they don't call that stuff,

1426
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 7: and I get it, but I'll say this, leave me.

1427
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 7: We lived here for a lot of years. This is

1428
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 7: not the reason the Giants lost that game. The reason

1429
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 7: the Giants lost that game was the first half. Thing

1430
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 7: was the first half.

1431
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:09,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, messing up the clock.

1432
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 7: Yes, I'm telling you, I don't believe Waller makes that play,

1433
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 7: even if Taron Johnson doesn't have a hold of his arm.

1434
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 7: But I know Giants fans don't want to hear it,

1435
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 7: and they got a beef. I get it. They've got

1436
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 7: a beef, no problem. I get it. It's a close

1437
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 7: game and there's probably ten plays in a game like

1438
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 7: this that would have made a difference for either team. Yeah,

1439
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 7: Giants fans got a beef with that last call. But

1440
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 7: even if they make the call, even if they make

1441
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 7: the penalty call, you still got to make another play

1442
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 7: and we will never know the results of that play. So, yeah,

1443
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 7: Giants fans, you got a beef, no problem. I don't

1444
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 7: have a problem with it. But for me, I don't

1445
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 7: know that. I don't think Waller is going to make

1446
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 7: that play.

1447
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 2: The officiating crew miscalls on both sides. I mean we

1448
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 2: can draw it's examples. Yes, where they failed to throw

1449
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 2: the flat we've been talking about. They should have thrown

1450
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 2: Leonard Williams out of the game. About that, yeah, I mean, no,

1451
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 2: just get to haul off on somebody after a play

1452
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 2: when flags have already thrown. I know he didn't throw

1453
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 2: a punch, but you can't throw a guy to the ground. Yeah,

1454
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 2: So you know, how about Kevon Thibodeau kicking Dion Dawkins

1455
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 2: repeatedly in the stomach with his cleats. Yeah, that's you

1456
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 2: starts to like conduct and an injectable of kicking a

1457
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 2: guy in the stomach with your cleats. I don't care

1458
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 2: if you're down on the ground, you kick a guy

1459
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 2: in the stomach with your cleats, that's ejectable. It's just

1460
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 2: as bad as a punch.

1461
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 7: Tell me it's not well.

1462
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:34,480
Speaker 2: And then they flagg deon Dawkins for unsportsman like conduct. Unbelievable.

1463
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 7: It's gonna be interesting to see the fine schedule when

1464
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 7: it comes out, because there's gonna be multiple ones. I

1465
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 7: bet Dawkins gets fined, and I bet a couple of

1466
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 7: Giants get fined somebody, even Josh might get fined for

1467
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 7: coming in late on the on on okaake. Who knows.

1468
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:51,719
Speaker 7: But they're all there's gonna be a ton of money

1469
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 7: spent on that little altercation the league. Yes, it's all, Yes,

1470
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 7: a ton of money. But as for you know, for

1471
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 7: Bill calling from New Jersey Giant fan came up for

1472
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:04,600
Speaker 7: the game. You're right, the Giant fans do have a

1473
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 7: beef with that last call. But that's one of double

1474
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 7: digits in that game that could have gone either way,

1475
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,759
Speaker 7: and a lot of them went against the Buffalo Bills,

1476
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 7: so it's one of those. We lived there and the

1477
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 7: Giant fans are living there this year. You get into

1478
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 7: these games that are single score games and it come

1479
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 7: out on the wrong end, you'll go back with a hand.

1480
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 7: There always a handful of plays that should have gone

1481
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 7: your way that didn't, and and half of those handful

1482
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 7: of plays are officiating.

1483
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 22: Now.

1484
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 2: We have to take a break here, Maddie. Thanks for

1485
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 2: joining us for the Mattie Awards. We hope to see

1486
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 2: you next Monday, same time, same schedule. We will take

1487
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 2: a break and get more of your phone calls when

1488
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 2: we return here on one Bills Live.

1489
01:15:46,360 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 22: Stay tuned.

1490
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 2: We're hurrying up for the Huddle for Hunger Food drive

1491
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 2: because it's tomorrow, October seventeenth, here at high Mark Stadium

1492
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 2: from four to seven pm. Fans and schools from the

1493
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 2: area are encouraged to organize their own Huddle for Hunger

1494
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,719
Speaker 2: collection and bring their items to the stadium. Bill's players,

1495
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 2: Latavius Murray, Dion Dawkins, all the rookies expected to be

1496
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 2: in attendance. The top three schools who donate will be

1497
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 2: recognized at the October twenty six game against the Bucks

1498
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 2: and receive a tour, a tailgate party, and tickets to

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01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 2: the game. But hurry because the drive is tomorrow, October seventeenth,

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01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 2: four to seven pm here at high Mark Stadium. Gonna

1501
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 2: get back to the phones at eight oh three, oh

1502
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 2: five fifty one eighty eight five point fifty two five

1503
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 2: pint fifty in to Carl and Amsterdam. Next. What do

1504
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 2: you got for us?

1505
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:58,719
Speaker 23: Carl, Hey, get afternoon guys. You know it's victory Monday,

1506
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 23: go bills, and I kind of just wanted to get

1507
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 23: your feelings on my theory. I'm trying to be optimistic here.

1508
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 23: You know, you know people have been down on Dorsey

1509
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 23: and down on mcderim about play calls. But do you

1510
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 23: think just because it's week sick that we're just not

1511
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 23: diving into the back yet, you know, we're not getting

1512
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 23: creative or you know, because we don't want to show

1513
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 23: our hands. You know, we're very expulsive office. We're a

1514
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,560
Speaker 23: top three offense and a top three dcard. So I

1515
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 23: kind of wanted to get your feelings. I appreciate you guys.

1516
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 23: What you guys do or go bells or happy happy Monday.

1517
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 2: All right, thanks Carl, appreciate the call you want to

1518
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 2: take that one, Steve.

1519
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 7: There's a lot in it, and there's a lot of

1520
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 7: possibilities that we don't know yet, or we'll probably never know.

1521
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 7: What kind of matchup the Giants defense presented to the

1522
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 7: Bills may dictate how it went, particularly with their top

1523
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 7: two one of their top two tight ends on the

1524
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 7: bench in Dalton kincaid, how that affected their game plan,

1525
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 7: what they really felt like they could do against a

1526
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 7: defense like that, and quite frankly, how the guys executed it,

1527
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 7: which guys Josh chose to throw to. And the running

1528
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 7: game showed up at times but then disappeared at times

1529
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 7: as well. So a lot of that stuff going on.

1530
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 7: It's interesting. I don't have a these coordinators in the NFL.

1531
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 7: Most people just think they sit up there and they

1532
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 7: think run or pass and let's let's see if we

1533
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 7: can throw it to this guy they've got. It's way

1534
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,759
Speaker 7: more complicated than that. It goes way deeper than anybody

1535
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 7: gives it credit for. And some of the things that

1536
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 7: they do, and I'll admit some of the stuff they

1537
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 7: do is like what are you doing like running when

1538
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 7: it's a it's first and got it? Was it second?

1539
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 7: And goal in a foot to go and they line

1540
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 7: up in the shotgun. I was I was like, man,

1541
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 7: oh man, just that's when you just line up and

1542
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 7: have just push, you know, just get it in. Uh.

1543
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 7: That's the kind of stuff that bothers you. But even

1544
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 7: those plays, there's a lot in what you're asking your

1545
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 7: players to do, and it's just so hard to dissect

1546
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 7: the strategies and the reasons behind it because you've got

1547
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 7: personnel combinations, strengths and weaknesses that you're weighing. Plays that

1548
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 7: you want to try that you think are going to

1549
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 7: have an effect, like the orbit motion to hearty great

1550
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 7: call awesome. We all love it and it's all easy.

1551
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 7: But if it doesn't work, everybody's up in arms like

1552
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 7: you're a fool for trying that play. So I get it.

1553
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 7: We can sit here all day and talk and Sean McDermott,

1554
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know how you give up nine

1555
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,799
Speaker 7: points to any NFL offense, don't give up a touchdown

1556
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 7: all night and have people criticize like saying you stink.

1557
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't get that.

1558
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 2: That's what you're supposed to do. Everybody else is doing, right, Yeah,

1559
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 2: that's fine. So they did their jobs there.

1560
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 7: So they did their job, and they did it at

1561
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 7: a high level over in the red zone. And you

1562
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 7: got a quarterback. You're playing against the back of a

1563
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 7: quarterback that's known even in particularly in this town. You

1564
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 7: never you couldn't get any turnovers from those from those jokers,

1565
01:19:58,680 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 7: You're not they're not going to put the ball at

1566
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 7: risk at all. And then your your offense turns it

1567
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,799
Speaker 7: over twice in the first half when.

1568
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 2: You had like special teams miss two field goals.

1569
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 7: You had like three possessions period in the first half.

1570
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 7: I mean, it's it's unbelievable. So it is a hard game.

1571
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 2: Back to the phones into Harry on a cell. What

1572
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 2: do you got for his Harry?

1573
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 21: You know, see, if you're telling people the truth and

1574
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 21: they're not listening to you, execution every drive. You can't

1575
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 21: look at three shutout quarters and say, oh that's Dorsey.

1576
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 21: You gotta look at every single drive and you got

1577
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 21: to find the drive killer. Drive one Diggs drops the ball,

1578
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 21: drive two uncalled pi drives, three game fumbles. There's always

1579
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 21: a drive killer. You know, the Bills were moving the

1580
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 21: ball but then something went wrong. That's what the what

1581
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 21: the problem is. It's not it's not everybody picking on Dorsey.

1582
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 21: I mean, Dorsey had a few if he calls, for sure,

1583
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 21: I'm not gonna say he didn't. But you gotta look

1584
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 21: at every drive just to understand what's happening on the field.

1585
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you're right, and we talk about it a

1586
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,719
Speaker 7: little bit, but yeah, the Gabe Davis fumble was huge.

1587
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 7: That the tripping calls that it didn't call were huge.

1588
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 7: And then you know, once you start getting into that,

1589
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 7: there's no telling where the game goes from there because

1590
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 7: it'll be first and ten on the on the you know,

1591
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 7: on the Giant forty two instead of you know, fourth

1592
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 7: and ten on the Bills thirty two. You know. So, yeah,

1593
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 7: you're right. Drive killers are really what you got to

1594
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 7: look at. I think when you the reasons you can't convert,

1595
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 7: and that's why third down is such a big down,

1596
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 7: and that's why teams that don't get into third down

1597
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 7: much and are getting first downs on first and second

1598
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 7: down are so prolific and it looks so easy. And

1599
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 7: the Bills have been there a couple of times this year.

1600
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 7: It's I agree with you the call. I agree with you.

1601
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 7: Drive killers are what I really look at as to

1602
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 7: why the offense looks off, it gets off to slow starts.

1603
01:21:57,760 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 7: What's getting them off the field? And a lot of

1604
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 7: times nothing to do with the play call. Every time

1605
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 7: you talking about though, like we just said, none of

1606
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 7: it has to.

1607
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 2: Do it, you have got a caller complaining that they're

1608
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 2: not having Dawson Knox run down the scene, which they

1609
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 2: think is his strength. How dare you run them out

1610
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 2: into the flat. You're not putting him in a position

1611
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 2: to succeed. Are you kidding me? The guy's wide open

1612
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 2: on a third and eight. Catch the ball. It's an

1613
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 2: execution issue. Don't put it on Dorsey. You gotta be

1614
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 2: kidding me. And I'll tell you right now, Dawson Knox

1615
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 2: would tell you the same exact thing, And Josh Allen

1616
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 2: said that very thing after the game. I gotta throw

1617
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 2: a better ball so Dawson can catch the ball. Guys,

1618
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 2: schemes wide open. You can't blame Dorsey on that one.

1619
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Kenny and Indiana. What do you got for us? Kenny?

1620
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 14: How you doing?

1621
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 9: Gentlemen?

1622
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 2: You all right?

1623
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 9: First of all, I want to say I will take

1624
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 9: the win. I'm going to be in the minority today.

1625
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 9: No gloom and doom here. I will take the win.

1626
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 9: It's a week to week league, but Bills know that

1627
01:22:56,479 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 9: we scored forty eight two weeks ago, so I'm fine

1628
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 9: with that. I'm worried about the team's psyche maybe a

1629
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 9: little bit. I mean, did you see Josh after the game,

1630
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 9: the way he was slumped over his face? You would

1631
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 9: never believe the Bills won. Yeah, I mean this is

1632
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 9: this game took a lot out of them, both physically

1633
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 9: and emotionally and mentally. And the thing is, next week,

1634
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 9: aren't we going into the same thing in New England?

1635
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 7: Well, the team with almost identical one run you're right, Yeah,

1636
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,679
Speaker 7: an offense that's really struggling against a really good defense.

1637
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 9: Yeah. And what I'm worried about is another team desperately

1638
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 9: searching for answers. And I something in my gut, guys,

1639
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 9: something tells me the Patriots are going to change quarterbacks

1640
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 9: this week. And then aren't we looking at the exact

1641
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:45,679
Speaker 9: same game, a new quarterback, a desperate team. How much

1642
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 9: can our team take of this? I mean, it's a

1643
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 9: lot to take.

1644
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 2: Well, you got to overcome it, Kenny. And now that's

1645
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:54,759
Speaker 2: the bottom line. And as bad as the Patriots offense

1646
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 2: has been, which is twenty seventh in the league, thirty

1647
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 2: first in scoring, twenty fifth third down conversions, and twenty

1648
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 2: second in passing and twenty sixth in rushing. The bottom

1649
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 2: line is this, there's still a top ten defense despite

1650
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 2: the fact that they don't have their best pass rusher

1651
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 2: and Matthew Judon who's on injured reserve. They don't have

1652
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 2: their number one draft choice, Christian Gonzales, who has a

1653
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 2: shoulder injury and is out indefinitely, and yet there's still

1654
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 2: a top ten defense. They're tenth in the league and

1655
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,680
Speaker 2: stopping teams on third down, and I would venture to

1656
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 2: guess they're pretty decent in red zone defense as well.

1657
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 2: They hold their team in games, and they're probably an

1658
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 2: even better defense than the Giants.

1659
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 7: Oh yes, I would say that is as well, very

1660
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 7: much so. They're more consistent than the Giants, and the

1661
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 7: Giants put out a good effort against the Bills, but

1662
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,719
Speaker 7: they've you know, they've got lumped up while other teams

1663
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 7: in the league on their schedule and listen, you're right,

1664
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 7: everybody's you know, you take the win. It was an

1665
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 7: ugly win. You know, you'll take it. You're in the

1666
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 7: minority of saying, but here's the thing. When you get

1667
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 7: into games like this and positions like this in the league,

1668
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 7: and all are callers today, Let's face it. It was

1669
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 7: an ugly win, and we've seen this team play better

1670
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 7: and look better against what we would think would be

1671
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 7: better opponents, and everybody's calling it. Here's how you fix

1672
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 7: it right this. Let me let me figure this out

1673
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 7: for all of us. Brownie and I are doing it.

1674
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 7: All our callers will let me take the wheel. Let

1675
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 7: me fix this for you. Don't put Dalton Kincaid in

1676
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 7: the flat, don't don't you know, don't run it out

1677
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 7: of shotgun, don't all of this stuff. You know we

1678
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 7: all can fix it. Right back to more eleven perpony,

1679
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 7: come back to yeah, go back to eleven person. I'll

1680
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:44,679
Speaker 7: go back to what we know we can. We're all

1681
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 7: trying to fix it today because we know they can

1682
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 7: play better, and so I get it. But that's where

1683
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 7: we're at. Right All the Bills fans are calling and say, guys, whoa, whoa,

1684
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:57,560
Speaker 7: Just pump the brakes. Listen. Let you know you you

1685
01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 7: gotta let them run the ball a little more, get

1686
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 7: a little more under center, some play action. You gotta

1687
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 7: do all that. You gotta hit, you gotta send you know, Dawson,

1688
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 7: all this stuff. That's it. But you're right. This next

1689
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 7: game is against a team with a very good copy,

1690
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 7: with a very good defense, desperate to get it together.

1691
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 7: On offense. Probably there's a chance you may see Bailey

1692
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 7: Zappi in the game.

1693
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 2: No, you're gonna see Malik cunning or Malik Cunningham in

1694
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 2: the game because he was in the game last week.

1695
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 2: They moved him in. You know, he's running direct snaps.

1696
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if you see a little wildcat

1697
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 2: action he does. He can do more for the offense

1698
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 2: because he's a dual threat. Quarterback Mac Jones cannot. And

1699
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 2: that's how desperate Bill Belichick is right now.

1700
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 7: On I think they are too. I think they're gonna

1701
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 7: pull out all the stops. They may completely revamp and

1702
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:48,600
Speaker 7: start over from scratch with a new quarterback and a

1703
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 7: new offensive philosophy and just start coming out. I mean,

1704
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 7: we may sing him in the wing te for goodness sake. Wow,

1705
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 7: So who knows, that's the kind of thing that the

1706
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 7: Patriots could. You could see him doing. But this game

1707
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 7: coming up this week on the road at one o'clock

1708
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 7: in the afternoon in New England. Should scare a lot

1709
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 7: of Bills fans because it's the defense it's hard to

1710
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:10,639
Speaker 7: score on.

1711
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 2: New England number seven in the league in red zone defense,

1712
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 2: given up touchdowns forty five percent of the time. The

1713
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 2: Bill's the number four red zone defense in the league,

1714
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 2: giving up touchdowns thirty five percent of the time. So

1715
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 2: as bad as New England is, they're right there with

1716
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 2: Buffalo when it comes to red zone defense, and it's

1717
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 2: why they could potentially hold them in the game. We'll

1718
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,599
Speaker 2: have to see. It's gonna be interesting this weekend for sure.

1719
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 2: Break time for us, but more of your phone calls

1720
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 2: when we return, So hang tight if you're hanging on

1721
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:38,519
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01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,320
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1726
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 2: Right back to the phones, we go into Matt in Rochester.

1727
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 24: Next.

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01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,879
Speaker 2: What you got for us, Matty?

1729
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 20: Yeah, So watching the game last night, I think my

1730
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 20: biggest thing is the players don't appear to be you know,

1731
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 20: they're just giving up on They don't seem to have

1732
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 20: much motivation on the sidelines or anything.

1733
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 24: I don't know if you guys noticed that.

1734
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 20: Uh, you know, And I don't know how we're gonna

1735
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 20: plan and go from here. Stefan Diggs looks to be

1736
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 20: like the only one to be carrying at this point.

1737
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think. I don't know.

1738
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 2: I can't that's kind of a huge assumption.

1739
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 7: I don't know if I can agree with that in

1740
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 7: Matt because and I don't know what you're looking at,

1741
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 7: but you don't have a game like last night where

1742
01:28:56,120 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 7: you got guys fighting literally we got guys like on

1743
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 7: the edge of a fistfight who aren't engaged emotionally. So

1744
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 7: I'm whatever body language you're seeing and all that, I

1745
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 7: don't know that you're making an inference. It's just not

1746
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 7: there because I did not see that.

1747
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people see like a five second

1748
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 2: clip on the sideline and make an assumption like the

1749
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 2: one you're making. And as Josh Hallen pointed out last week,

1750
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 2: people thought Stefan Diggs was a problem on the sidelines

1751
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 2: at Jacksonville because he slammed down a Microsoft surface and

1752
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 2: he was actually just mad at himself for running the

1753
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 2: wrong release on a route on a play on the

1754
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 2: previous series. So have at it if you want to

1755
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:49,680
Speaker 2: infer whatever you want, but often more often than not,

1756
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 2: what people interpret on the sidelines is wrong.

1757
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 7: Nine out of ten, you got to it. Yeah, I

1758
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 7: would agree with that. That's that's right.

1759
01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 2: I mean, Von Diggs said it last week. You don't know.

1760
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:01,879
Speaker 2: You just don't know what's going on on the sideline.

1761
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 2: You just don't.

1762
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 7: You see two guys yelling at each other and you

1763
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 7: think they're having an argument, and it's it can be

1764
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:12,879
Speaker 7: part of an inside joke they where they have arguments.

1765
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 7: It really is. I mean, it's crazy stuff. Don't infer

1766
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 7: what you see on the sidelines as being self evident,

1767
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 7: because it's ninety nine percent of the time it's not. Yeah,

1768
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 7: it's not. Because these guys have relationships that go way

1769
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 7: beyond the field, way beyond the field. You know, their

1770
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 7: their wives or friends, their kids play together, their moms

1771
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 7: and dads know each other, they you know, and so

1772
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:40,639
Speaker 7: they they've got relationships go far beyond any heated moment

1773
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 7: on the sideline, So don't it's it's really a mistake

1774
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 7: to infer any greater problems or or benefits from a

1775
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:55,599
Speaker 7: sideline interaction. Don't. Don't think that it's anything that's self evident,

1776
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 7: because there's a lot in those relationships.

1777
01:30:58,120 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 2: Let's go to Bob and Lancaster next.

1778
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:03,679
Speaker 24: Yeah, bout hey, how are you? Thank you for taking

1779
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 24: the call? You know, I just finished listened to the

1780
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 24: last caller and he's talking about game time, and I

1781
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 24: have something more to say about not in the game,

1782
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 24: but in the in the background. But first I wanted

1783
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:24,599
Speaker 24: to mention something about, you know, penalties, and I think

1784
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 24: a lot of people have done that already, but you know,

1785
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:31,600
Speaker 24: situational awareness is something that just cannot be overlooked. You

1786
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 24: just can't grab a jersey. It's like in basketball when

1787
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 24: you know, I played that and you're you're up by

1788
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 24: two when you fell fell a guy on their way

1789
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 24: to the rim, you know, and give him a chance

1790
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:48,640
Speaker 24: to win by by one. And that's one thing, And

1791
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:50,320
Speaker 24: then the other thing is, you know, I watched the

1792
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 24: whole game, I saw the post game, and I'm kind

1793
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:56,720
Speaker 24: of a little a student of body language, and I

1794
01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 24: was watching after the game the players talk about, you know,

1795
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 24: what happened and what's going on, and they kind of

1796
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:07,280
Speaker 24: told the party line, which is important on the offense,

1797
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,160
Speaker 24: you know, you pick up the D and vice versa.

1798
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 24: But the key thing for me and I don't have

1799
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 24: any insight into the into the locker room and what

1800
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 24: goes on before behind the game. But you know when

1801
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:22,639
Speaker 24: Josh and Coach McDermott are both saying the same thing,

1802
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 24: that they go through the first two or three quarters

1803
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,799
Speaker 24: and there's you know, they're flat. They come out flat,

1804
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 24: and then with a little bit of effort late in

1805
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 24: the game they'll either come close to winning, which happened

1806
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 24: out in the UK, or or actually win has happened here.

1807
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 24: That's just something that really can't happen without something else

1808
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 24: going on behind the scenes that people may not be

1809
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 24: understanding or realizing. You don't come out game after game

1810
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 24: and spend half the game playing flat. Mistakes are going

1811
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 24: to be made. Let's face but that that to me,

1812
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,680
Speaker 24: uh smacks of something else going on.

1813
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 2: Why do you think it is?

1814
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, but you're right, I don't know, you.

1815
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 24: Know, maybe maybe there's some some interaction between the backs

1816
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:18,640
Speaker 24: and so forth, you know, with with Diggs and you know,

1817
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 24: there's no way of someone like myself. You guys have

1818
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 24: a better insight and other people that spend time with

1819
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:29,439
Speaker 24: the team behind the scenes, but something psychologically is going on.

1820
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 24: At one point I thought it might have been you know,

1821
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 24: uh the the uh bad injuries and so forth. But no,

1822
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 24: there's too much talent on this team. There's you know, execution.

1823
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:44,600
Speaker 24: All these kinds of things can happen as as you know,

1824
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 24: games go in and out. But when you talk about

1825
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 24: as as the quarterback coming out flat for two and

1826
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 24: three quarters, and mc dermot said basically the same thing,

1827
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:56,680
Speaker 24: we got to analyze why that is. I I like

1828
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 24: to think that there's a lack of some passion coming

1829
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 24: out of the out of the locker room in the

1830
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 24: first half that you know, kind of men's itself to

1831
01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 24: some extent in the second half, but in the first

1832
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 24: half of the game, that's just not acceptable. And if

1833
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,759
Speaker 24: that's the trend, then then they're gonna have a problem

1834
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:15,879
Speaker 24: with bad teams anyway.

1835
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're right, Bob, and thanks for the call. That's

1836
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 7: you're right. There's a lot in that and you're right,

1837
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 7: coming out flat one game when you think it's jet

1838
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 7: lag is one thing, but now coming out a second game,

1839
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 7: then you started to think, Okay, what are we doing here?

1840
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 7: What's going on, particularly against an inferior opponent like the

1841
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 7: Giants were purported to be. Yeah, I get all of that,

1842
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 7: no question, And certainly, and I'll say this too, you're

1843
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:40,719
Speaker 7: right about body language of Josh was beat up last

1844
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 7: night after the game. He was down and he didn't look.

1845
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 2: As he knows he let down his defense, and he

1846
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:47,880
Speaker 2: said as much in the locker room. Guys, I'm sorry

1847
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 2: we weren't better for you. We'll be better next time.

1848
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 2: He apologized to the defense. He's exasperated and down because

1849
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 2: he felt they didn't do enough to win the football

1850
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 2: game and too much of the burden was put on

1851
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 2: the defense. That's what it's about as far as but.

1852
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:04,720
Speaker 7: I don't think there's anything like I don't know when

1853
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:06,679
Speaker 7: everybody talks about the emotion of the team and they're

1854
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 7: coming out flat and Steven he goes, I don't know

1855
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 7: if and they always mentioned Digs and like it's like

1856
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 7: somehow or some way, Digs is the guy who's listen.

1857
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 7: Steph Diggs is a positive on the field, in the

1858
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:22,960
Speaker 7: locker room, on the sideline. These guys love that guy.

1859
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:26,720
Speaker 7: Josh loves him. They are close. He's walking up and

1860
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 7: down the talking to these guys. He is not letting up.

1861
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 7: And even better, he backs it up on the field.

1862
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 7: That guy is there all the time. And you want

1863
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:41,719
Speaker 7: to know a better reason why that guy's the focal

1864
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 7: point of the offense. It's that right there. Now, some

1865
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:48,879
Speaker 7: other guys could do the same and start to emulate

1866
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 7: that or start to be inspired by that and act

1867
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 7: like that. That's a good thing. But you know, you've

1868
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 7: got some guys on this team that are well, all

1869
01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 7: these guys are one hundred percent invested, and it's easy

1870
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:05,559
Speaker 7: to come out and say, well, they're starting slow. And listen,

1871
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 7: they started slow when the ball got punched out, a

1872
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 7: guy got tripped on a play that he was wide open.

1873
01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 7: All of a sudden two series in you're off to

1874
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 7: a slow start again when the drive killers weren't even

1875
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:23,040
Speaker 7: your fault. So well, the punch out was. But so

1876
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 7: there you go. Don't widen the problems when they're pretty

1877
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:31,879
Speaker 7: specific on a certain play and aren't related.

1878
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:35,520
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say this. People want to create conspiracy

1879
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 2: theories that there's something else wrong as to why they're

1880
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 2: coming out flat in a football game. Have at it.

1881
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:43,760
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say this, all right, I've covered this

1882
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:47,680
Speaker 2: team for a long time, A long time. I have

1883
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 2: seen cancerous locker rooms here in Orchard Park, locker rooms

1884
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 2: where the offense won't even talk to the defense. I

1885
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:00,639
Speaker 2: don't know if I've seen a closer in locker room

1886
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:04,240
Speaker 2: than this one. So to insinuate that something else is

1887
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 2: going on, to me, you're throwing darts. This is a

1888
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:10,559
Speaker 2: team that genuinely loves each other. And if you don't

1889
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:13,360
Speaker 2: believe it, look at what happened last night when Damian

1890
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:15,720
Speaker 2: Harris gets loaded into an ambulance. He just got here

1891
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 2: five months ago, and that guy's beloved in that locker room.

1892
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 2: Why because of the culture that Sean McDermott is created,

1893
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,000
Speaker 2: do they want to fix the problems that are ailing

1894
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 2: their offense? You're damn right they do. Is there some

1895
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 2: underlying thing? This deep seated? I mean, I mean, it's

1896
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 2: like we got think tanks out here trying to find

1897
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 2: out what the heck's wrong with the team. It's simple,

1898
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 2: they're not getting off to good starts. They're having trouble

1899
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:42,720
Speaker 2: getting kicked into a rhythm early. There is no underlying

1900
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 2: thing that's a cancer for this football team. It's a

1901
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 2: good locker room. It's a strong locker room. They all

1902
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 2: love each other, they're all pulling on the same rope.

1903
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 2: It's just not working right now. They'll figure it out.

1904
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 2: If you want to not a locker room mission, come

1905
01:37:58,160 --> 01:37:58,639
Speaker 2: on with that.

1906
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:01,599
Speaker 7: It's not play calling all. It's not Ken Dorsey's play

1907
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 7: can if you want to get on the coaching staff

1908
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:06,640
Speaker 7: for anything. It's letting these guys show up flat. And that,

1909
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 7: to me is also about player leadership. It's Josh, it's

1910
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:14,360
Speaker 7: Steph Diggs, It's Mitch Morris, it's Micah High, Jordan Poyer,

1911
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:16,639
Speaker 7: it's those guys out there. And let's face it, Matt

1912
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 7: Mulano's not there. Maybe he was a little bit more

1913
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 7: prominent than we thought. They're still you know, they're still

1914
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 7: without Tremaine Edmonds. Was a guy in that locker room,

1915
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 7: guy's rally around. Well, they're you know now there. It's

1916
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:30,720
Speaker 7: different and there's maybe strung. Although defensively they seem to

1917
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 7: be bringing the heat just like they always have. And

1918
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 7: Vaughan is now back in the mix. He'll help as well.

1919
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 7: But when you're when you're talking about emotional content, as

1920
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 7: some people are, because it slow starts. Because that's what

1921
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:47,560
Speaker 7: it looks like. You're talking about player leadership. This isn't you.

1922
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 7: You don't go in the locker room and give a

1923
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:56,280
Speaker 7: pep talk before the that's that's youth football stuff. It

1924
01:38:56,320 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 7: doesn't fly in professional football. Your motivating Each guy is

1925
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 7: motivated from inside. So if you don't have enough guys

1926
01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:07,760
Speaker 7: who are playing at a fervent level, that's on you

1927
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:08,559
Speaker 7: for picking those guys.

1928
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott doesn't pick those players, doesn't have him on

1929
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 2: his roster, right, and if he finds out he does,

1930
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 2: they're not here long, right. So that's why I'm saying

1931
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 2: that that conspiracy theory, that there's some underlying thing going

1932
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 2: on lock it's I mean, it couldn't be more off

1933
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:25,240
Speaker 2: base with the kind of players they bring in here

1934
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 2: in the first place.

1935
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:26,599
Speaker 7: That's right.

1936
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 2: They're busting their ass to try to win football games.

1937
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:33,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, don't come on, don't overreach trying to generalize that

1938
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 7: there's some dark cloud keeping this team from getting off

1939
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 7: to a fast start offensively. What it is is a

1940
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:44,120
Speaker 7: lack of execution on plays that they have made in

1941
01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 7: the past that we've seen and expect them to make.

1942
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:48,479
Speaker 2: And they'll work to get better this week and try

1943
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:50,519
Speaker 2: to play better this next week. And if it doesn't work,

1944
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:52,760
Speaker 2: they'll keep working on it. I mean, look, we all

1945
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:55,599
Speaker 2: want him to find solutions. They do more than anybody else. Yeah,

1946
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:57,880
Speaker 2: and they will so so we'll see. We got to

1947
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 2: take a break here. We got Eric Wood coming up now.

1948
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:02,840
Speaker 2: We'll have him lend his thoughts on what he saw

1949
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 2: in last night's game from the broadcast booth. Next here

1950
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:07,200
Speaker 2: on one Bill's Live and our number three stay.

1951
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 1: Tuned the one Bills Live presented by Calida Health.

1952
01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:00,519
Speaker 2: All right, here we are our number three, Chris Brown,

1953
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:03,639
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you, and every Monday at this time

1954
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:07,240
Speaker 2: we welcome in my broadcast partner on the Bills Radio Network,

1955
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 2: one Eric Wood, joining us to lend us some of

1956
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:16,320
Speaker 2: his thoughts on last night's slogfest through the offensive first half.

1957
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:19,679
Speaker 2: My gosh, that was like dragging a bob sled through

1958
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 2: the mud. Just could not get anything going with any

1959
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:24,640
Speaker 2: semblance of consistency.

1960
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 7: Eric.

1961
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:29,920
Speaker 2: Fortunately it does not cost them because the defense held

1962
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 2: up and held firm, particularly in the red zone. We'll

1963
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:35,479
Speaker 2: get to that in a second, what can you put

1964
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:39,360
Speaker 2: your finger on as to what is keeping Buffalo's offense

1965
01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 2: from getting into the kind of rhythm we witnessed on

1966
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 2: their three game winning streak from week two to week four.

1967
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 5: If anything, Yeah, I mean it's hard to pinpoint exactly

1968
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 5: what it is, but to me, it seems like early

1969
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 5: in the games they're just not executing at a high

1970
01:41:56,000 --> 01:42:00,640
Speaker 5: enough level and consistently enough, which shouldn't be the issue.

1971
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 4: With a veteran squad.

1972
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:04,720
Speaker 5: Is as much experience as you have at quarterback, at

1973
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 5: receiver and a number of spots that that shouldn't be

1974
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:11,120
Speaker 5: the case where you're starting slow on a pretty consistent basis.

1975
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:13,599
Speaker 5: When you look at you know, fifty percent of the games,

1976
01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:17,160
Speaker 5: they've started pretty slow this year, and so especially these

1977
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 5: last two weeks.

1978
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:19,320
Speaker 4: When you look at what.

1979
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:23,519
Speaker 5: Hurt them early in games, you know, it's it's drops.

1980
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 5: And a lot of this happens on third down where

1981
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:29,600
Speaker 5: they didn't execute up until this point. But it's it's drops.

1982
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:33,639
Speaker 5: It's you know, receivers falling or you know, you got

1983
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 5: the questionable pos or whatever it is down the field

1984
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:39,880
Speaker 5: yesterday that could have been monster plays, but it's just

1985
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:43,120
Speaker 5: little things that don't allow them to move the sticks

1986
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 5: early enough in the drive and then they end up

1987
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 5: you know, I think they go three and out to

1988
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 5: it of their first four drives. Yesterday, rewind a week

1989
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:55,120
Speaker 5: ago against Jacksonville, they go three and out their first

1990
01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 5: two drives of the game. And for one of the

1991
01:42:57,520 --> 01:43:00,400
Speaker 5: most explosive offense in the league, that that just shouldn't happen.

1992
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:02,880
Speaker 5: And we wouldn't be having this conversation if the Bills

1993
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 5: went fourteen to nine and we just didn't know what

1994
01:43:05,479 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 5: they were capable offensively, and because they have the firepower

1995
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:13,040
Speaker 5: they do, and so moving forward, you know, it's about, Okay,

1996
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:15,599
Speaker 5: what's our identity as an offense. What can we rely

1997
01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:18,600
Speaker 5: on to get in a hot start or just to

1998
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:20,839
Speaker 5: get in some type of rhythm early. Is it mixing

1999
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:23,640
Speaker 5: up the tempo, is it getting under center more? Is

2000
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:27,920
Speaker 5: it running the ball more? Is it getting in more

2001
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:31,360
Speaker 5: five wides and giving Josh some easy access throws? But

2002
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:35,320
Speaker 5: you know, yesterday, the game planned early on was forced.

2003
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 4: The ball to Diggs.

2004
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:38,679
Speaker 5: I mean, what was it, Eleven of Josh's first sixteen

2005
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:39,719
Speaker 5: attempts all went to Digs.

2006
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:42,719
Speaker 4: And that's fine. I look, I think I think.

2007
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:45,599
Speaker 5: When you have a true number one receiver like Diggs

2008
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 5: that wants the ball and competes like he does. You

2009
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:50,879
Speaker 5: can force feed him some. Heck, a week ago in Jacksonville,

2010
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:53,759
Speaker 5: I said at halftime, my halftime adjustment for the offense

2011
01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 5: was the force feed Digs. He's your best playmaker. Get

2012
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 5: them the ball as much as you possibly can. But

2013
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 5: when and wing Martindale is double teaming, true double teams

2014
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 5: like not not hey safety help over the top, like

2015
01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:12,679
Speaker 5: two guys just chasing Digs around. Well, to me, especially

2016
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:16,479
Speaker 5: with Kinkaid out yesterday, there's no kind of easy button

2017
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 5: throw for Josh. If Digs is double covered, there's no

2018
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:22,719
Speaker 5: Cole Beasley anymore. It seemed like that role was gonna

2019
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:25,519
Speaker 5: be Kincaid. Obviously he missed the game yesterday because of

2020
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:28,920
Speaker 5: the concussion. And so they've got to find answers where

2021
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:31,760
Speaker 5: they'd say, you know, it's second and ten and they're

2022
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:35,679
Speaker 5: not running a drawplay for a game of two. It's

2023
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 5: something that they know that they can get into a

2024
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 5: manageable third down in short and so you know they'll

2025
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:45,639
Speaker 5: get they'll get to the drawing board this week, they'll

2026
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 5: look at the film and you know they're gonna they're

2027
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:51,559
Speaker 5: gonna learn from this. And you know, a week ago

2028
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 5: we were saying, hey, if Cook doesn't drop the ball

2029
01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:55,840
Speaker 5: in the first possession, they moved the sticks, and who

2030
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:59,600
Speaker 5: knows what happens yesterday. If Davis doesn't fumble on the

2031
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 5: s drive, if they don't have their feet tangled up

2032
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:04,679
Speaker 5: on the first drive, you probably get a monster truck

2033
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 5: chunk play. They're either up by one or two scores.

2034
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:11,559
Speaker 5: You start putting pressure on this Giants offense to then

2035
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:13,960
Speaker 5: move the football and not play clock control, and then

2036
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:15,759
Speaker 5: all of a sudden you have a totally different ballgame.

2037
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,240
Speaker 5: That's not the case, though, when you're not making those

2038
01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 5: plays early.

2039
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 7: And it looks even worse after the first two drives

2040
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 7: get stopped. Gabe, Gabe Davis gets tripped on the first drive,

2041
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 7: you get those feet tangled up. The second one, he

2042
01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:29,439
Speaker 7: fumbled it after a big gainer. The third one they

2043
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 7: get to the first they get a first and ten

2044
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:33,559
Speaker 7: on the on the New York Giant thirty seven, which

2045
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:37,640
Speaker 7: was it was after Latavius Murray, you know, bursts up

2046
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:39,400
Speaker 7: the middle for ten yards, so they're moving the ball.

2047
01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 7: Then it's it and it's incomplete. To digs completed to

2048
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 7: digs for no gain. So now it's third and ten

2049
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:52,599
Speaker 7: and incomplete to Dawson Knox and like you just die,

2050
01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 7: it dies on the vine. And then they punt it

2051
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:55,840
Speaker 7: from the thirty seven yard on which a lot of

2052
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 7: fans are like off, they're off, their rock are about

2053
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:00,639
Speaker 7: and I was thinking they were kicking it into the

2054
01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:03,000
Speaker 7: scoreboard end if they decided to hit the fifty five

2055
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:08,879
Speaker 7: yard er, and I am it's my thought, Matt Smiley

2056
01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:14,719
Speaker 7: and and Tyler Bass told coach listen from that direction

2057
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:17,320
Speaker 7: going in, I was like one of six in warm

2058
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 7: ups and playing against the Giant team early it was

2059
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 7: only three nothing at that time, I think, or maybe

2060
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:25,599
Speaker 7: it wasn't even three nothing. At that time, you're thinking, Okay,

2061
01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:27,720
Speaker 7: you know what, their offense is not going to move

2062
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:29,800
Speaker 7: the ball on our defense. We're gonna get him down there,

2063
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 7: get a three and out and get the ball right back.

2064
01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 7: I think that was the more the mindset because taking

2065
01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 7: a coin flip, if he does miss it, which he

2066
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:41,559
Speaker 7: did twice the rest of the game, you're giving the

2067
01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 7: Giants a short field. I mean that's what the reasoning

2068
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 7: was behind that, right.

2069
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:50,120
Speaker 5: Right absolutely, And then you know yesterday you don't have

2070
01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:52,599
Speaker 5: the defense forcing any turnovers, so you're not getting any

2071
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 5: short fields.

2072
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:55,720
Speaker 4: There was no kind of cheap points.

2073
01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:58,639
Speaker 5: In the game either, which we've gotten those at times,

2074
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 5: especially in some of those blouts. And I'll also say this,

2075
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:04,960
Speaker 5: and you'd expect this to show up the most in

2076
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:06,679
Speaker 5: the red zone, but they go two for two scoring

2077
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:09,879
Speaker 5: touchdowns in the red zone yesterday. The red zone essentially

2078
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 5: the deciding factor in the game. And I generally say,

2079
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:16,160
Speaker 5: if you show me touchdown red zone percentage in turnover battle,

2080
01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 5: that'll generally give you the winner of any football game.

2081
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:20,559
Speaker 4: And I know that's a cheap stack.

2082
01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:22,560
Speaker 5: Is if you get to see three for four in

2083
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:25,559
Speaker 5: if someone seventy five percent, then yeah, of course they

2084
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:26,600
Speaker 5: scored three touchdowns.

2085
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:28,320
Speaker 4: You know they probably scored enough points to win.

2086
01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:32,639
Speaker 5: But I'll say this, this Bill's offense, especially since Week

2087
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 5: one but throughout this season, is adjusting to life without

2088
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:39,400
Speaker 5: Josh Allen scrambling or design runs. We haven't seen a

2089
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 5: design run to Josh Allen. Heck, we're not even seeing

2090
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 5: sneaks on third and one or fourth in one, and

2091
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:48,920
Speaker 5: so they're adjusting to life without Josh Allen scrambling down

2092
01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 5: the field. The one late in the game where Josh

2093
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:55,040
Speaker 5: missus Knox. That might be one where Josh scrambles for

2094
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:57,719
Speaker 5: that first down when they're trying to run the clock

2095
01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:00,320
Speaker 5: out at the end. And you have other times, you

2096
01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:03,960
Speaker 5: know last week where Josh just barely overthrows Knox, which

2097
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 5: could have been a big game. You know last year

2098
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:09,600
Speaker 5: that's probably a twenty yard run by Allen. Defensive coordinators

2099
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:13,479
Speaker 5: now have to assume that, you know, Josh isn't going

2100
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 5: to be the same force with his legs because of

2101
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:19,639
Speaker 5: how they're coaching him right now, which allows a different

2102
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 5: defensive philosophy than this Bill's offense is used to going against.

2103
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:27,439
Speaker 5: This is a major philosophy change with Josh not running

2104
01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:30,400
Speaker 5: the ball as much or hardly at all, really, and

2105
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 5: I'm fine with that.

2106
01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 4: I'm great with that.

2107
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 5: I've came out here on plenty of Mondays and talked

2108
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:36,920
Speaker 5: about how, you know, I want to see Josh take

2109
01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:40,160
Speaker 5: less and less hits as his career goes. Now, when

2110
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 5: the games on the line, when you got you know,

2111
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:46,280
Speaker 5: playoff implications towards the end of the season, I think

2112
01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:48,719
Speaker 5: you'll see that dialed up. But heck, their best running

2113
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:51,320
Speaker 5: plays the last few years have been zone reads and

2114
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 5: They're not running any of those because they don't even

2115
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 5: want to give Josh the option to pull the ball

2116
01:48:56,439 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 5: and go try and get some yards himself.

2117
01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 7: One thing I got to ask, and I said earlier

2118
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:03,400
Speaker 7: in the show, if you're gonna have Josh do this

2119
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:05,799
Speaker 7: and play within the scheme of the offense, he's actually

2120
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:08,640
Speaker 7: what it is basically is him giving other guys a

2121
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 7: chance to keep him from having to put on the

2122
01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:17,160
Speaker 7: Superman Cape. The question is, who, besides Steph Diggs, is

2123
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:22,599
Speaker 7: gonna be the guy that you know helps him, right,

2124
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 7: I mean, who's gonna be a guy that that gets open,

2125
01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:29,280
Speaker 7: gives him a lane that he can depend on to

2126
01:49:29,439 --> 01:49:32,080
Speaker 7: keep from having to put the cape on and run

2127
01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 7: for a nineteen yard gain on third and twelve.

2128
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:36,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2129
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:38,680
Speaker 5: I think as the season goes on, they're hoping that's Kincaid.

2130
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:42,799
Speaker 5: They're hoping that Josh can build more relationship with Hardy

2131
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:47,559
Speaker 5: in Sherfield, Gabe Davis. You know, he just disappears for

2132
01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:51,800
Speaker 5: too long A stretches for me. You know, incredible playmaker,

2133
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:55,120
Speaker 5: great playmaker, love him being a part of this roster.

2134
01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:56,360
Speaker 4: But when we're talking to guy.

2135
01:49:56,200 --> 01:49:58,720
Speaker 5: That's just gonna hey, it's second and ten, we either

2136
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:00,439
Speaker 5: rush the ball for no gain on first out and

2137
01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 5: we threw an incompletion.

2138
01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:02,960
Speaker 4: Who can get us a third and two?

2139
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:06,120
Speaker 5: Remove the sticks right now if they're gonna truly try

2140
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:09,759
Speaker 5: and take away step Diggs and so understanding that teams

2141
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:12,040
Speaker 5: might want to, you know, steph d still goes for

2142
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:16,120
Speaker 5: ten and one hundred yesterday, but you could see some

2143
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 5: of Wink Martindale's game plan copied the rest of the year.

2144
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:23,240
Speaker 5: So who's gonna be the guy that separates? And look,

2145
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:26,040
Speaker 5: the Bills are gonna face much tougher secondaries throughout the

2146
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:28,599
Speaker 5: rest of the season than they faced yesterday as well,

2147
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 5: And so there's got to be someone that can separate,

2148
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 5: and you know it's and it can be Cook out

2149
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:36,800
Speaker 5: of the backfield, whatever it is, there's got to be

2150
01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:40,599
Speaker 5: more guys stepping up and truly separating. And look, I've

2151
01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:43,120
Speaker 5: seen the tweets today where people take a screenshot and

2152
01:50:43,160 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 5: show how open guys are and Josh isn't looking for him,

2153
01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:48,360
Speaker 5: And look, Josh may miss him on those plays. Maybe

2154
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 5: those guys weren't quick enough in the progression. But I'll

2155
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:53,840
Speaker 5: say this, when a guy's that wide open and he's

2156
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 5: still force feeding digs you know what that shows me,

2157
01:50:56,479 --> 01:50:57,800
Speaker 5: that's who Josh trusts.

2158
01:50:58,000 --> 01:50:59,599
Speaker 4: That's who Josh under the gun.

2159
01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 5: When you're a team that blitzes as high as anybody

2160
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:04,559
Speaker 5: in the NFL, and you know you're gonna have to

2161
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:07,200
Speaker 5: likely make quick decisions in a game. And look and

2162
01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:10,040
Speaker 5: Wig Martindale died it back yesterday and didn't blitz as

2163
01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 5: much because you know, maybe that extra blitzer. They just

2164
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 5: took him and tried to double steph. But all that

2165
01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:19,679
Speaker 5: being said to me, that just shows that Josh doesn't

2166
01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:21,600
Speaker 5: trust a lot of the other guys.

2167
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:25,519
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the defensive effort, Eric, and you know,

2168
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:29,320
Speaker 2: Tarren Johnson, leading tackler fifteen tackles in the game, has

2169
01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:31,559
Speaker 2: the big play at the end. Although there's some people

2170
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:33,880
Speaker 2: who believe he did have a DPI on the play.

2171
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:35,800
Speaker 2: I don't think there was enough to rise to the

2172
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:38,479
Speaker 2: level of PI, but that's just me. And then Torel

2173
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:41,559
Speaker 2: Bernard another solid performance and Dorian Williams, who got the

2174
01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 2: start last night. All over the field, I mean ten

2175
01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:49,320
Speaker 2: tackles in the game, made some plays, was not perfect,

2176
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:53,479
Speaker 2: didn't fill every gap properly over the course of the game,

2177
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:58,559
Speaker 2: but made an impact was noticeable. What do you foresee

2178
01:51:58,640 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 2: going forward with him?

2179
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:03,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he'll keep getting better and better. And

2180
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:05,680
Speaker 5: we talked about it yesterday, Chris. I got to talk

2181
01:52:05,720 --> 01:52:07,840
Speaker 5: to Bobby Babage before the game, and you know, he

2182
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:10,200
Speaker 5: loves Dorian Williams and just he knows what he's getting

2183
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:13,639
Speaker 5: from Dorian Williams, and that's an absolute ball player that's

2184
01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:15,599
Speaker 5: gonna fly around the football field and give you everything

2185
01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:17,639
Speaker 5: he's got. And yes, there's gonna be some growing pains

2186
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:20,040
Speaker 5: when you play a rookie in the middle of that defense,

2187
01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:23,680
Speaker 5: but or sorry at the will linebacker position, but you

2188
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:26,120
Speaker 5: know they're one of their two off ball linebacker positions.

2189
01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:27,400
Speaker 4: Is there gonna be mistakes?

2190
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 5: Of course, you know at any position that you play

2191
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 5: a guy and he's getting his first start, there's gonna

2192
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:35,320
Speaker 5: be mistakes. But I loved kind of the progression from

2193
01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:38,240
Speaker 5: him getting some action against Jacksonville but not even being

2194
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:41,000
Speaker 5: truly in the game plan for that. He's looking, he's

2195
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:44,360
Speaker 5: doing show team looks for Jacksonville throughout the weekend, then

2196
01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 5: gets thrust into actual Milano goes down. I saw some

2197
01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 5: great things from him yesterday. I'm excited about you know,

2198
01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:53,040
Speaker 5: just who he is as a football player. Bernard and

2199
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:56,240
Speaker 5: Arren Johnson, they actually kind of remind me of of

2200
01:52:56,280 --> 01:52:58,960
Speaker 5: each other in the way that they play. Those guys

2201
01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:02,519
Speaker 5: are fearless there, they both are, and their impact players.

2202
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:05,400
Speaker 5: And I'm sure glad both those guys are playing on

2203
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:08,040
Speaker 5: our defense because they fly around, they make plays at

2204
01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:10,320
Speaker 5: or behind the line of scrimmage. They're active in the

2205
01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:13,080
Speaker 5: past game, both of them are. And look, Tarren makes

2206
01:53:13,120 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 5: a good play at the end. He's given up six

2207
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:18,040
Speaker 5: inches and if he gets another pi or a hold

2208
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:21,400
Speaker 5: on the play against Waller, so be it. Give him

2209
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:24,439
Speaker 5: another shot, but don't give him an easy one there

2210
01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:27,400
Speaker 5: and make the ref make a decision there.

2211
01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:28,720
Speaker 7: You know he is.

2212
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:30,519
Speaker 4: He gonna let that slide.

2213
01:53:31,120 --> 01:53:33,559
Speaker 5: He did, and you get away with one there, And

2214
01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:36,400
Speaker 5: I say get away with thee. There's gonna be contact

2215
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:39,080
Speaker 5: down in the tight red zone like that anytime you

2216
01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:39,639
Speaker 5: throw the ball.

2217
01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:42,320
Speaker 7: So you get into this spot where the Bills are

2218
01:53:42,360 --> 01:53:45,080
Speaker 7: now one loss and then one win in two games

2219
01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:48,200
Speaker 7: where they started slowly on offense. Now the Bills defense

2220
01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:51,240
Speaker 7: has played well and not letting up any points. But

2221
01:53:52,120 --> 01:53:54,920
Speaker 7: what do you think, what's the what's the cure? I mean,

2222
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:57,960
Speaker 7: how do you get this team to come out and

2223
01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:00,439
Speaker 7: like a house on fire like they have done in

2224
01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:03,840
Speaker 7: the past. What's missing or what can they change, if anything.

2225
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:07,360
Speaker 5: Figure out what you're doing best offensively, look at all

2226
01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:10,160
Speaker 5: your breakdowns and start the game with that, and get

2227
01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:11,920
Speaker 5: the guys ready to roll and say, look, this is

2228
01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:12,639
Speaker 5: what we do best.

2229
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:13,479
Speaker 4: This is what we've.

2230
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:17,439
Speaker 5: Charted, whether that's up tempo and mixing in and out

2231
01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:20,000
Speaker 5: of five wide, whether that's Reggie gilliam on the you know,

2232
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:22,679
Speaker 5: getting twenty one personnel, gets a big personnel out there,

2233
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:25,960
Speaker 5: and mix mix up your formations to where you're putting

2234
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:28,200
Speaker 5: the defense at the bottom, whatever it is. Figure out

2235
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:31,000
Speaker 5: what you're doing best offensively and get to it early.

2236
01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:34,800
Speaker 5: And then the defense has been playing great, don't get

2237
01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:39,280
Speaker 5: me wrong, but there's times where they're letting offenses sustain drives,

2238
01:54:39,320 --> 01:54:42,960
Speaker 5: so then that offense hits on the sideline, and not

2239
01:54:43,040 --> 01:54:44,840
Speaker 5: that they're in a rhythm to start with, But then

2240
01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:47,280
Speaker 5: you sit there forever, and it's easy to come out

2241
01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:49,720
Speaker 5: flat when you've been sitting on the bench for twenty

2242
01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:52,000
Speaker 5: twenty five minutes and not been on the field. And

2243
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:55,320
Speaker 5: so I think at times they can play better complimentary football.

2244
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 4: I say all this.

2245
01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:58,920
Speaker 5: It was the offense the last two weeks. I'm just saying,

2246
01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:03,240
Speaker 5: at times, you know, turn whether it's a turnover, whether

2247
01:55:03,320 --> 01:55:06,720
Speaker 5: it's a short field, whether it's a punt return, something

2248
01:55:06,760 --> 01:55:08,480
Speaker 5: can just give that offense a little bit of a

2249
01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 5: jolt to where you know, the time of possession at

2250
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:14,240
Speaker 5: the half. Both the last couple of weeks has been tough.

2251
01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:17,160
Speaker 5: Now two weeks ago against Jacksonville, majority of the reason

2252
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:20,919
Speaker 5: for that was injuries. Yesterday, the Giants were sustaining drives,

2253
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:23,480
Speaker 5: they were getting to some third and fourths tyrods, making

2254
01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:26,040
Speaker 5: quick decisions, getting the ball out of his hands and

2255
01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:30,400
Speaker 5: making completions. They're not scoring touchdowns. All that being said,

2256
01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 5: they could still play better complimentary football, but it's on

2257
01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 5: the offense to start faster in games and look, the

2258
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 5: defense can continue their high level play and the Bills

2259
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:41,360
Speaker 5: will go back to blowing people out if they can

2260
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:42,400
Speaker 5: start these games faster.

2261
01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:47,160
Speaker 2: Last one, Eric and spinning it forward to Week seven,

2262
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:51,960
Speaker 2: Bills at Patriots, New England. A team that while their

2263
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:56,840
Speaker 2: offense has struggled mightily, their defense holds them in games,

2264
01:55:57,520 --> 01:56:00,919
Speaker 2: sometimes not all the time. They've had some lowout losses,

2265
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:03,560
Speaker 2: but there's still a top ten defense that's tenth in

2266
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:05,720
Speaker 2: the league and third down defense and seventh in the

2267
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:08,960
Speaker 2: league in red zone defense. That's where they excel third

2268
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:11,800
Speaker 2: down in red zone and knowing the problems that the

2269
01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:14,240
Speaker 2: Bills have experienced on offense the last couple of weeks,

2270
01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:16,320
Speaker 2: I know that we've already taken some calls from fans.

2271
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:19,160
Speaker 2: They're concerned that this Sunday could play out a lot

2272
01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 2: like the last two.

2273
01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's fine as long as the Bills get

2274
01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:26,040
Speaker 5: the win. And look, you know, we want to see

2275
01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:29,080
Speaker 5: the Bills be sharper. But what Bills fans got to

2276
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 5: understand is most games in the NFL, whether it's the Giants,

2277
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 5: the Patriots, or you're playing the Dolphins, most games are

2278
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:41,360
Speaker 5: going to come down to one score. They're tight football

2279
01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:45,000
Speaker 5: games into the fourth quarter. So you know, myself included,

2280
01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:46,760
Speaker 5: we can't expect the Bills to go out and blow

2281
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:49,560
Speaker 5: people out each and every week. Last night was a

2282
01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:52,600
Speaker 5: little too close for comfort. All that being said, yeah,

2283
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:56,040
Speaker 5: likely will be a fairly tight game in New England.

2284
01:56:56,120 --> 01:56:58,000
Speaker 4: Do I expect the Bills to get the win? Yes?

2285
01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:01,800
Speaker 5: Do I expect them to score or forty and beat

2286
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:04,080
Speaker 5: the brakes off the Patriots? No, because that just doesn't

2287
01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:07,040
Speaker 5: generally happen in the NFL. We've been spoiled at times

2288
01:57:07,120 --> 01:57:09,720
Speaker 5: where the Bills get on these hot streaks and just

2289
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:13,680
Speaker 5: crush opponents. And you know, they traditionally the last few

2290
01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:15,840
Speaker 5: years have sat in that you know, top three and

2291
01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:17,960
Speaker 5: point differential at the end of the season because they

2292
01:57:17,960 --> 01:57:19,640
Speaker 5: have blown people out because they're so good on both

2293
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 5: sides of the ball. But yeah, I expect this to

2294
01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 5: be a tight game in New England. And look, they're

2295
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:27,600
Speaker 5: sitting at one in five. Bill Belichick, He's gonna have

2296
01:57:27,640 --> 01:57:30,760
Speaker 5: those guys ready to go because they have a lot

2297
01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:32,840
Speaker 5: of pride over there, and you know, we go into

2298
01:57:32,880 --> 01:57:37,280
Speaker 5: their place, which isn't always the most hostile environment. But

2299
01:57:37,720 --> 01:57:39,400
Speaker 5: all that being said, yeah, I do expect to be

2300
01:57:39,400 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 5: a pretty tight game.

2301
01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:43,240
Speaker 7: Give us an idea. This could be more like the

2302
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:46,640
Speaker 7: Giants game than we knew. If the Patriots decide to

2303
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:50,080
Speaker 7: switch up quarterbacks, Malie Campbell may be in the running,

2304
01:57:50,360 --> 01:57:54,880
Speaker 7: or Malik Cunningham maybe in there. That's you know, I

2305
01:57:54,960 --> 01:57:58,320
Speaker 7: hate that for a team you have no film on

2306
01:57:58,360 --> 01:58:01,840
Speaker 7: the guy except like a quarter of game last week.

2307
01:58:02,960 --> 01:58:05,160
Speaker 7: How does that change things for a team when you've

2308
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:08,560
Speaker 7: got a different signal caller for an opponent who is

2309
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 7: absolutely desperate to get off the schneid.

2310
01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:16,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean Malik. I followed him at the University

2311
01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:18,040
Speaker 5: of Louisville. He got that COVID year, so that's he

2312
01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:20,880
Speaker 5: felt like he was setting school records that maybe he

2313
01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:23,640
Speaker 5: shouldn't have just based upon being there so long. But

2314
01:58:25,320 --> 01:58:27,400
Speaker 5: super athlete. You know, they tried him out in the

2315
01:58:27,440 --> 01:58:31,000
Speaker 5: preseason at receiver. He would you know, played special teams,

2316
01:58:31,160 --> 01:58:32,440
Speaker 5: played quarterback.

2317
01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:33,920
Speaker 4: As well, so he's very mobile.

2318
01:58:35,120 --> 01:58:37,200
Speaker 5: You know, at times it might even look closer to

2319
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:41,520
Speaker 5: a wildcat offense just because he's he's an athlete back there,

2320
01:58:41,560 --> 01:58:43,600
Speaker 5: and that's the strength of his game. He does have

2321
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:47,680
Speaker 5: the capability of throwing the football. But you know, if

2322
01:58:47,840 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 5: I'm if I'm the Bills, whether it's mac Jones or

2323
01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:54,600
Speaker 5: Cunningham back there with the Patriots, you got to stop

2324
01:58:54,640 --> 01:58:57,240
Speaker 5: the run, don't allow the big plays going to make

2325
01:58:57,280 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 5: them earn it. And at this point of the season

2326
01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:02,400
Speaker 5: they've proven that, but don't make enough mistakes to not

2327
01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:03,560
Speaker 5: put up many points.

2328
01:59:04,080 --> 01:59:06,480
Speaker 2: Eric, thanks as always, We appreciate it. We'll catch up

2329
01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:07,360
Speaker 2: with you next weeks.

2330
01:59:07,400 --> 01:59:07,560
Speaker 7: Man.

2331
01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:10,360
Speaker 4: All right, sounds good, guys, have a great week.

2332
01:59:10,160 --> 01:59:12,120
Speaker 2: All right, that's Eric Wood joining us as he does

2333
01:59:12,160 --> 01:59:15,720
Speaker 2: every Monday, giving us his insights from the broadcast booth

2334
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:19,920
Speaker 2: of the game the day before. And yeah, I think

2335
01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:22,280
Speaker 2: that Patriots game is going to be interesting because of

2336
01:59:22,280 --> 01:59:26,680
Speaker 2: what you mentioned, the unknowns involved with Malie Cunningham, who

2337
01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:29,520
Speaker 2: at the very least is expected to get some time

2338
01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:33,240
Speaker 2: at the quarterback position, maybe more than we even anticipate,

2339
01:59:33,400 --> 01:59:37,160
Speaker 2: and that requires extra preparation on the Bills part defensively

2340
01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:42,320
Speaker 2: and secondarily how their defense somehow, some way tends to

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Speaker 2: stemy teams at times, not all the time, because they

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01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:48,680
Speaker 2: have had some blowout losses, but at times they can

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01:59:48,720 --> 01:59:52,280
Speaker 2: hold their team in a game if their offense is sputtering,

2344
01:59:52,320 --> 01:59:54,840
Speaker 2: which has happened as we know more often than not

2345
01:59:55,000 --> 01:59:56,920
Speaker 2: for New England. You think the Bills have had issues

2346
01:59:56,920 --> 01:59:59,560
Speaker 2: in half of their games New England, almost every game

2347
01:59:59,640 --> 02:00:04,200
Speaker 2: has been an uphill climb as far as their offense goes.

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Speaker 2: That's still six days away. We'll be talking more about

2349
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Speaker 2: that throughout the week, but when we come back, more

2350
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Speaker 2: of your phone calls, so stay put if you're at

2351
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Speaker 2: Adio three zero five point fifty, and we'll get around

2352
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Speaker 2: the locker room as well. Here on one Bill's Live

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Speaker 2: presented by Colt of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Let's

2354
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Speaker 2: go around the locker room on this Bill's Victory Monday,

2355
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Speaker 2: presented by connect Life, your blood and organ donor Network,

2356
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Speaker 2: and we begin with Josh Allen, who was very straightforward

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Speaker 2: in addressing the inconsistencies of the past two games on offense.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to make mountains out of molehills here.

2359
02:00:55,360 --> 02:00:58,000
Speaker 3: You know, we've been an extremely efficient offense. We've scored

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02:00:58,040 --> 02:01:01,160
Speaker 3: a lot of points the last two games. We haven't

2361
02:01:01,160 --> 02:01:02,840
Speaker 3: gotten off to a hot start. We got to figure

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Speaker 3: out why that is and how to get ourselves in

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Speaker 3: a funk or get ourselves out of a funk early on,

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Speaker 3: and get ourselves into a good rhythm early on. So,

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Speaker 3: you know, just we'll take it one game at a time,

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Speaker 3: one week at a time, and just try to continue

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Speaker 3: to get better throughout the week.

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Speaker 4: Again, we just gotta we got to.

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Speaker 3: Have a sense of urgency and get to the bottom

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Speaker 3: of it. And we're a much better team than than

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Speaker 3: what we showed tonight and what we showed last week.

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Speaker 3: Were much better offense than that, and we know that.

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Speaker 3: So we got to go out there. We got to

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Speaker 3: prove it. But again it starts with practice and figuring

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Speaker 3: out how to get our guys in good situations to

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Speaker 3: help this football team win football games. So again, we'll

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Speaker 3: watch the film, we'll get better from it, and we'll

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Speaker 3: be better going forward.

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Speaker 2: All right. So that's the offensive side of the ball. Meanwhile,

2380
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Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball held the Giants without

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Speaker 2: a touchdown, nine total points and zerover five in the

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Speaker 2: red zone. Here is head coach Sean McDermott on defensive

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Speaker 2: effort in the win over the Giants nine fourths.

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Speaker 25: Right, how often can you do that in an NFL game?

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Speaker 25: And you know, really two drives that they had two

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Speaker 25: opportunities to go down and win the game, and our

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Speaker 25: defense stood up with thought. The guys did a phenomenal

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Speaker 25: job two fourth down situations or you know, in terms

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Speaker 25: of those drives ended in basically last play situations there

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Speaker 25: and our guys stood up. And some of those guys

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Speaker 25: are young guys, but we're not there yet. But when

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Speaker 25: you're talking about Kayer a second year player, CB, a

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Speaker 25: second year player, TB a second year player, Dorian a rookie,

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Speaker 25: I mean those guys in a game like that, when

2395
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Speaker 25: it's you know, it's nip and tuck and to go

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Speaker 25: on a drive where you're saying, hey, two minute, let's execute.

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Speaker 13: Right.

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Speaker 25: That's why we practice the way we do, and you've

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Speaker 25: got to communicate execute. It's got to all be rolling

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Speaker 25: in the critical moments of the game, and it was

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Speaker 25: those guys were doing a really good job. And then

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Speaker 25: again they stood up with it in that last play.

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Speaker 25: They stood up and made the play that they had

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Speaker 25: to make.

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Speaker 2: And then von Miller, who said he started to feel

2406
02:03:01,520 --> 02:03:05,160
Speaker 2: a little bendy yesterday with his pass rushing, felt better

2407
02:03:05,200 --> 02:03:10,360
Speaker 2: than he did last week, also discussed Tarren Johnson, Buffalo's

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Speaker 2: leading tackler in the game with fifteen total tackles and

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Speaker 2: the big play at the end.

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Speaker 8: He's on fire, man, Like saw him on a side

2411
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Speaker 8: I was lay man, what you're thinking about because he

2412
02:03:21,720 --> 02:03:22,760
Speaker 8: was just staring down at the Terryfux.

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Speaker 4: You know what you're thinking about it.

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Speaker 8: He's like, hey man, I'm trying to I'm thinking I've

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Speaker 8: played to close the game.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, let me leave you alone then,

2417
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Speaker 4: because we as.

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Speaker 7: We gonna do that.

2419
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Speaker 8: Arry he's been on fire. Since he's been on fire

2420
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Speaker 8: since you know, I've been playing with him. Man, he's

2421
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Speaker 8: a hell of a teammate and I'm I'm glad to

2422
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Speaker 8: have him on my side for shore.

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Speaker 2: All right, So there's Von Miller on Taron Johnson. That's

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Speaker 2: around the locker room, presented by Connect Life, your Blood

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Speaker 2: and organ Donor Network. Let's get right back to the

2426
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Speaker 2: phones where some people have been holding patiently and we

2427
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Speaker 2: go to stand in Buffalo next. What do you got

2428
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Speaker 2: for a stand? You're on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 26: Hey, guys, always good talking to you, Steven Brownie, you know,

2430
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:01,240
Speaker 26: but at the end of the day, of the dub

2431
02:04:01,400 --> 02:04:05,160
Speaker 26: and dub's a dub. But there's just and I'm not

2432
02:04:05,240 --> 02:04:09,120
Speaker 26: picking on Dorsey, but you guys can can honestly answer

2433
02:04:09,120 --> 02:04:13,360
Speaker 26: this for me, there's a situation where it almost seems

2434
02:04:13,440 --> 02:04:17,200
Speaker 26: like his game is scripted the entire like sixty or

2435
02:04:17,240 --> 02:04:21,040
Speaker 26: seventy plays. It almost seems like, you know, Steve, you

2436
02:04:21,080 --> 02:04:23,800
Speaker 26: want to say, who's gonna step up at least putting

2437
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Speaker 26: the right personnel on the field at the right time.

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02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:29,320
Speaker 26: And my point in case is this, James Cook has

2439
02:04:29,360 --> 02:04:32,880
Speaker 26: proved himself. Last night I watched James Cook pop out

2440
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Speaker 26: twelve twelve, right, I yelled the TV I said, Dorsey,

2441
02:04:38,280 --> 02:04:42,360
Speaker 26: I said, run the same personnel, run the same formation,

2442
02:04:42,960 --> 02:04:45,720
Speaker 26: throw a slant over the middle and you're gonna hit it.

2443
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Speaker 26: Diggs was open. Problem is he went from under. He

2444
02:04:50,520 --> 02:04:53,080
Speaker 26: took Cook out, So we got a guy going to

2445
02:04:53,160 --> 02:04:57,000
Speaker 26: slow hole slower and Murray we went to the shotgun

2446
02:04:57,440 --> 02:04:59,560
Speaker 26: so linebacker didn't have to step up a yard and

2447
02:04:59,600 --> 02:05:02,120
Speaker 26: a half to yards and he knocked the ball down

2448
02:05:02,760 --> 02:05:06,080
Speaker 26: and Bigs was wide open. I just you say, who's

2449
02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:09,840
Speaker 26: gonna step up. I don't think that Cooks should have

2450
02:05:09,880 --> 02:05:15,040
Speaker 26: fourteen carries and Latavius Murray twelve. Cooks proved himself he's

2451
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Speaker 26: our guy. And do you think that McDermott should have

2452
02:05:18,400 --> 02:05:21,520
Speaker 26: Dorsey down in the sideline. Josh looks like the lost

2453
02:05:21,560 --> 02:05:24,200
Speaker 26: puppy sitting at the end of the bench sometimes. And

2454
02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:27,600
Speaker 26: I know Dad's always had him up, had the book.

2455
02:05:27,920 --> 02:05:30,920
Speaker 26: They reviewed every single series. We just see it on

2456
02:05:30,920 --> 02:05:34,080
Speaker 26: the sidelines. And do you think that that's an issue too.

2457
02:05:34,360 --> 02:05:35,880
Speaker 26: I'm gonna hang up and listen to you guys.

2458
02:05:35,960 --> 02:05:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna let Steve handle the run part of this.

2459
02:05:38,520 --> 02:05:41,720
Speaker 2: I'll just start with the other part. Dabel was up

2460
02:05:41,760 --> 02:05:44,840
Speaker 2: in the booth as well. It was Ken Dorsey talking

2461
02:05:44,840 --> 02:05:47,320
Speaker 2: to him on the sidelines for the four years that

2462
02:05:47,400 --> 02:05:49,400
Speaker 2: Dabell was the coordinator, or at least three of the

2463
02:05:49,400 --> 02:05:52,520
Speaker 2: four years that Dable was the coordinator. So that one

2464
02:05:52,600 --> 02:05:55,240
Speaker 2: really doesn't hold a lot of water. But what about

2465
02:05:55,240 --> 02:05:57,760
Speaker 2: the run game and more opportunities for Cook Steve.

2466
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, they wrote they've always rotated their running backs,

2467
02:06:01,640 --> 02:06:04,080
Speaker 7: and I think Cook being the guy who gets most

2468
02:06:04,120 --> 02:06:12,040
Speaker 7: of the carries is a designed I think they want

2469
02:06:12,080 --> 02:06:13,720
Speaker 7: to keep those guys fresh, as I guess, is what

2470
02:06:13,760 --> 02:06:16,000
Speaker 7: I'm saying. So I'm not really going to get into,

2471
02:06:16,080 --> 02:06:18,920
Speaker 7: you know, it's hard to get into why they get guys.

2472
02:06:19,040 --> 02:06:22,200
Speaker 7: One guy's got fourteen, one guy's got twelve. There's your

2473
02:06:22,240 --> 02:06:24,200
Speaker 7: answer right there. I think that's where they want now.

2474
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Speaker 2: There is something to be said about the hot hand though,

2475
02:06:27,400 --> 02:06:28,760
Speaker 2: right Yeah.

2476
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Speaker 7: Absolutely, and certainly Latavius came in and snapped off a

2477
02:06:32,680 --> 02:06:35,400
Speaker 7: couple of runs that are impressive, and he has the

2478
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Speaker 7: They run differently too. Murray is a guy who hits

2479
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Speaker 7: it and he's between the tackles. He's big, he runs

2480
02:06:44,120 --> 02:06:47,120
Speaker 7: through contact, he pushes the pile when he gets hit

2481
02:06:47,200 --> 02:06:49,400
Speaker 7: at the line of scrimmage. It's still a four yard game.

2482
02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:51,600
Speaker 7: We saw that a couple of times last night. Maybe

2483
02:06:51,600 --> 02:06:53,000
Speaker 7: not at the line of scrimmage, but if it gets

2484
02:06:53,040 --> 02:06:54,840
Speaker 7: hit two yards deep, it's a four yard gain four

2485
02:06:54,840 --> 02:06:57,480
Speaker 7: and a half yard gain. So Murray gets some yards

2486
02:06:57,480 --> 02:07:01,680
Speaker 7: after contact that Cook does not do. It's just different.

2487
02:07:01,840 --> 02:07:04,520
Speaker 2: I will say this, that's the most aggressive I've seen

2488
02:07:04,560 --> 02:07:07,440
Speaker 2: James Cook run between the tackles in a Bill's uniform

2489
02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:07,880
Speaker 2: last night.

2490
02:07:07,880 --> 02:07:10,680
Speaker 7: That's right, it is, and maybe it's maybe it's part

2491
02:07:10,680 --> 02:07:12,760
Speaker 7: of the messaging as to why Murray got it more

2492
02:07:12,800 --> 02:07:14,920
Speaker 7: carries last night. It's because they wanted somebody like that

2493
02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:18,080
Speaker 7: and Cook hurt him. You know they're gonna say lesson learned.

2494
02:07:18,080 --> 02:07:20,960
Speaker 7: Then that's right, it's a lesson learned, and maybe it's

2495
02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:25,160
Speaker 7: part of the development process for James. So we'll see.

2496
02:07:26,000 --> 02:07:28,960
Speaker 7: But they ran the ball twenty six times with the

2497
02:07:28,960 --> 02:07:31,240
Speaker 7: two guys. Damien Harris got the one carry and he

2498
02:07:31,360 --> 02:07:34,919
Speaker 7: was hurt. So they ran the ball twenty seven times.

2499
02:07:35,640 --> 02:07:38,120
Speaker 7: Josh ran it twice and they were both obviously scrambles.

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Speaker 7: That's to me about what you're gonna see from most

2501
02:07:44,360 --> 02:07:47,360
Speaker 7: teams who don't have and I don't think the Bills

2502
02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:49,520
Speaker 7: feel this way about James Cook. I don't think they

2503
02:07:49,560 --> 02:07:52,080
Speaker 7: have the philosophy of like a like a Giant's team

2504
02:07:52,120 --> 02:07:55,160
Speaker 7: with Saquon Barkley, or a Colt's team with Jonathan Taylor,

2505
02:07:55,560 --> 02:07:59,880
Speaker 7: or a Raiders team with their guy, yeah, Josh Jacobs.

2506
02:07:59,880 --> 02:08:02,120
Speaker 7: So I don't think the Bills feel like they don't

2507
02:08:02,120 --> 02:08:05,000
Speaker 7: have that philosophy. So I think you're always going to

2508
02:08:05,080 --> 02:08:09,360
Speaker 7: get two guys three guys with carries in a game,

2509
02:08:10,840 --> 02:08:12,720
Speaker 7: because I think that's the way they want to do business.

2510
02:08:13,280 --> 02:08:16,600
Speaker 7: And I you're telling me you think James Cook has

2511
02:08:16,800 --> 02:08:19,560
Speaker 7: earned the right to be a guy who gets twenty

2512
02:08:19,600 --> 02:08:22,760
Speaker 7: five carries. I don't think the Bills see it that way.

2513
02:08:24,160 --> 02:08:27,600
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones into Mark in Jersey City. Next,

2514
02:08:27,600 --> 02:08:28,200
Speaker 2: what do you got for us?

2515
02:08:28,200 --> 02:08:28,440
Speaker 14: Mark?

2516
02:08:29,440 --> 02:08:32,720
Speaker 27: Good afternoon, gentlemen, thanks for taking my call. I think

2517
02:08:32,760 --> 02:08:37,560
Speaker 27: the whole you know, coming back from the UK, we're

2518
02:08:37,600 --> 02:08:40,520
Speaker 27: going to get right this game psychologically, you know, the

2519
02:08:40,640 --> 02:08:43,520
Speaker 27: way inferior opponent. I see the Giants every week down here.

2520
02:08:43,520 --> 02:08:46,560
Speaker 27: That's the best game they played by far all year.

2521
02:08:46,680 --> 02:08:51,600
Speaker 27: It's not even close. Like they had tackling issues, covered breakdowns,

2522
02:08:51,640 --> 02:08:54,640
Speaker 27: just get it just they all went away last night.

2523
02:08:54,920 --> 02:08:58,320
Speaker 27: Bobby o'kerki was, you know, called a bust signing down

2524
02:08:58,320 --> 02:09:00,920
Speaker 27: here and he was, you know, all old last night

2525
02:09:01,800 --> 02:09:04,080
Speaker 27: had his best game as a Giant. It was just

2526
02:09:04,640 --> 02:09:07,320
Speaker 27: the perfect storm of like and then the whole day

2527
02:09:07,400 --> 02:09:11,480
Speaker 27: ble feel good coming back to Buffalo him knowing the playbook.

2528
02:09:11,520 --> 02:09:14,520
Speaker 27: I felt like it just psychologically played two touchdown favorite

2529
02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:16,320
Speaker 27: at home. I think it played on them a little bit.

2530
02:09:16,600 --> 02:09:18,640
Speaker 27: One thing I do know is the Bills don't like

2531
02:09:18,680 --> 02:09:22,520
Speaker 27: New England collective. Collectively, McDermott doesn't like them. There's a

2532
02:09:22,560 --> 02:09:25,440
Speaker 27: certain aminist they have towards that team. And I think

2533
02:09:25,880 --> 02:09:27,960
Speaker 27: this week, I don't care who they throw out a quarterback.

2534
02:09:27,960 --> 02:09:31,840
Speaker 27: They can bring back Tony Eason, Steve Grogan, whoever they want.

2535
02:09:32,800 --> 02:09:35,200
Speaker 27: They're gonna they're gonna try to really embarrass them at

2536
02:09:35,200 --> 02:09:37,520
Speaker 27: home this weekend. Like I think that's what this is.

2537
02:09:37,560 --> 02:09:39,760
Speaker 27: The perfect opponent at the right time. They're wounded, and

2538
02:09:39,800 --> 02:09:41,720
Speaker 27: I think they're gonna want to bury them even more.

2539
02:09:42,240 --> 02:09:46,200
Speaker 2: All right, Mark, appreciate the phone call. I will give

2540
02:09:46,520 --> 02:09:50,800
Speaker 2: the Giants defense. You know, Bobby Akarake, what a player man.

2541
02:09:51,240 --> 02:09:54,800
Speaker 2: That guy was involved in every takeaway against Miami last

2542
02:09:54,800 --> 02:09:57,320
Speaker 2: week in a losing effort. He was all over the

2543
02:09:57,320 --> 02:09:59,920
Speaker 2: field last night. He has the force fumble on Gabe Davi,

2544
02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:02,080
Speaker 2: he has the tip pass in the air that leads

2545
02:10:02,080 --> 02:10:06,480
Speaker 2: to an interception, and uh, he had another play that

2546
02:10:06,560 --> 02:10:09,920
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember. He was all over the field.

2547
02:10:10,120 --> 02:10:13,840
Speaker 2: I mean that guy was everywhere for the Giants, as

2548
02:10:13,920 --> 02:10:16,000
Speaker 2: you know, they're inside linebacker there. He is a heck

2549
02:10:16,040 --> 02:10:17,720
Speaker 2: of a player and had a world of a game

2550
02:10:17,800 --> 02:10:21,040
Speaker 2: last night and a losing effort unfortunately for him. Uh,

2551
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Speaker 2: let's get to Fred on a cell. What do you

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02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:24,360
Speaker 2: got for his Fred?

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02:10:25,480 --> 02:10:27,240
Speaker 28: Yeah, Hi, guys, how you doing good?

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02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:28,880
Speaker 12: Good?

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02:10:29,240 --> 02:10:32,160
Speaker 28: Hey, Chris, I'm starting to worry about your buddy. You

2556
02:10:32,200 --> 02:10:33,120
Speaker 28: gotta calm down.

2557
02:10:33,760 --> 02:10:38,120
Speaker 2: No, that the engine runs hot, Fred, I'm sorry, I

2558
02:10:38,240 --> 02:10:39,720
Speaker 2: know just who I am know it does.

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02:10:39,800 --> 02:10:42,320
Speaker 28: It runs hot for all of us. Steve, you gotta

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02:10:42,400 --> 02:10:45,360
Speaker 28: keep you gotta corral um. Make sure you got to

2561
02:10:45,400 --> 02:10:51,640
Speaker 28: go crazy. Uh. One thing, A lot of people are

2562
02:10:51,680 --> 02:10:55,240
Speaker 28: running around with their hair on fire. I don't you know,

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02:10:55,280 --> 02:10:58,800
Speaker 28: I've coached football. I coached high school football before, and

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02:10:58,840 --> 02:11:04,200
Speaker 28: I you know, this weekend was I don't know how

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02:11:04,240 --> 02:11:07,560
Speaker 28: else you can say. It was very uncharacteristic football played

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Speaker 28: this weekend all around. You know, you had two undefeated

2567
02:11:11,640 --> 02:11:16,680
Speaker 28: teams lost, low scoring games. I don't know if you

2568
02:11:16,720 --> 02:11:22,280
Speaker 28: guys caught any of the games on Sunday, but it

2569
02:11:22,360 --> 02:11:25,920
Speaker 28: was just very uncharacteristic kind of anomalies, you know, right,

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02:11:26,880 --> 02:11:29,080
Speaker 28: So I'm not I'm not getting too crazy about that.

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Speaker 12: I really not.

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Speaker 28: I did have a question, and I don't know what

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02:11:35,160 --> 02:11:39,680
Speaker 28: did They will face a fourth and inches and and

2574
02:11:39,760 --> 02:11:43,320
Speaker 28: kick a field goal last night? Do you guys remember

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02:11:43,320 --> 02:11:43,720
Speaker 28: that or all?

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02:11:43,840 --> 02:11:45,480
Speaker 2: I'm going I'll have to go back and check to

2577
02:11:45,520 --> 02:11:48,040
Speaker 2: be sure because I'm just calling the game in the moment,

2578
02:11:48,160 --> 02:11:50,520
Speaker 2: and I'll have to take a look for you. But

2579
02:11:50,560 --> 02:11:51,800
Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred percent on that.

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02:11:52,840 --> 02:11:53,680
Speaker 28: Okay, I'm not here.

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02:11:53,720 --> 02:11:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a fourth and one at the Bills

2582
02:11:55,800 --> 02:11:58,040
Speaker 2: eleven yard line. They kicked a twenty nine yard field

2583
02:11:58,080 --> 02:11:59,600
Speaker 2: goal to take the lead nine to seven.

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Speaker 28: Yes, exactly, That's what I'm talking about. That seemed to

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02:12:04,040 --> 02:12:07,400
Speaker 28: be uncharacteristic for Gable. I was surprised he didn't go

2586
02:12:07,520 --> 02:12:07,800
Speaker 28: for that.

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Speaker 2: Well, when you have an offensive line that's got a

2588
02:12:10,920 --> 02:12:13,800
Speaker 2: guy off the couch playing left tackle, which was that

2589
02:12:13,960 --> 02:12:16,560
Speaker 2: which was going on at that point in time, a

2590
02:12:16,600 --> 02:12:20,560
Speaker 2: practice squad player, a backup, a guy that plays left

2591
02:12:20,560 --> 02:12:23,440
Speaker 2: guard playing center for you, and a right tackle. That's

2592
02:12:23,480 --> 02:12:26,120
Speaker 2: been nothing but a disappointment from the word go. You

2593
02:12:26,200 --> 02:12:28,200
Speaker 2: might lack a little confidence that you can get a

2594
02:12:28,240 --> 02:12:30,600
Speaker 2: tough yard when you absolutely need it, and with a

2595
02:12:30,680 --> 02:12:33,000
Speaker 2: chance to go ahead on the field goal, and knowing

2596
02:12:33,040 --> 02:12:36,240
Speaker 2: you're holding that Bills offense under wraps, I think you

2597
02:12:36,280 --> 02:12:39,160
Speaker 2: can see your way to the decision to take the

2598
02:12:39,160 --> 02:12:40,920
Speaker 2: field goal. But I get what you're saying. You know

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02:12:40,960 --> 02:12:42,840
Speaker 2: you're at the eleven yard line. You need a yard

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02:12:43,000 --> 02:12:46,160
Speaker 2: get into first and goal. And yeah, Dabel used to

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02:12:46,240 --> 02:12:49,480
Speaker 2: be more aggressive, but that was when he had Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen is his quarterback.

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Speaker 7: It's a little bit different, right, Yeah, that's right. And yeah,

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Speaker 7: before you said, yeah, uncharacteristic weekend around the NFL. It's

2605
02:12:59,480 --> 02:13:01,120
Speaker 7: a week to week league, no question about it. The

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02:13:01,120 --> 02:13:04,800
Speaker 7: Bill's got to feel like though they played And like

2607
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Speaker 7: the caller just before you from Jersey City, he's watched

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02:13:07,400 --> 02:13:09,680
Speaker 7: the Giants all year. By far, they played their best

2609
02:13:09,720 --> 02:13:13,040
Speaker 7: game last night. The Bills did not. The Bills got

2610
02:13:13,080 --> 02:13:15,880
Speaker 7: snuck out of there with a win, five point win,

2611
02:13:16,560 --> 02:13:20,240
Speaker 7: and you kind of move on. We were having fun

2612
02:13:21,040 --> 02:13:22,960
Speaker 7: during the week leading up to you just you couldn't

2613
02:13:22,960 --> 02:13:26,000
Speaker 7: get your mind around a two touchdown underdog and the

2614
02:13:26,000 --> 02:13:28,800
Speaker 7: Giants coming into Buffalo on a when Buffalo is gonna

2615
02:13:28,840 --> 02:13:31,800
Speaker 7: self correct. After the Jacksonville game, Bill's gonna roll on

2616
02:13:31,880 --> 02:13:33,640
Speaker 7: him and Brown and I were we just kind of

2617
02:13:34,080 --> 02:13:34,440
Speaker 7: you were.

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02:13:34,560 --> 02:13:36,440
Speaker 2: I still felt they'd be okay, but I was wrong.

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02:13:36,560 --> 02:13:38,240
Speaker 7: Well, I felt like they were gonna you know, we

2620
02:13:38,280 --> 02:13:39,920
Speaker 7: felt like they were going to roll up on them,

2621
02:13:40,080 --> 02:13:41,880
Speaker 7: you know, particularly if they got up on them, but

2622
02:13:42,760 --> 02:13:46,240
Speaker 7: certainly didn't happen that way. Bill's played bad, gotta win.

2623
02:13:46,320 --> 02:13:50,320
Speaker 7: Giants played great and took the loss. Right, but it

2624
02:13:50,400 --> 02:13:54,960
Speaker 7: was a historic way to lose a game. Yes, but

2625
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Speaker 7: it was a weird week.

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02:13:56,080 --> 02:13:59,920
Speaker 2: You're right about that too, Fred, because the undefeated Niners

2627
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Speaker 2: a backup quarterback, lost, The Eagles played a backup quarterback,

2628
02:14:04,760 --> 02:14:09,480
Speaker 2: undefeated lost. The Bills played a backup quarterback and fortunately won.

2629
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Speaker 2: So relish the victory and move on to the next week.

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Speaker 2: Break time for us. Steve and I close it up

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Speaker 2: next yere on One Bill's Live. All right, welcome back

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02:14:33,520 --> 02:14:37,200
Speaker 2: to One Bills Live. Some final thoughts. Got a tweet

2633
02:14:37,680 --> 02:14:40,840
Speaker 2: question where they ask, hey, guys, would you go no

2634
02:14:41,000 --> 02:14:44,000
Speaker 2: huddle to help the offense get into a rhythm? Quicker,

2635
02:14:44,080 --> 02:14:46,520
Speaker 2: the Bills have actually tried that. They've done some of

2636
02:14:46,560 --> 02:14:49,400
Speaker 2: that over the course of the first six weeks, with

2637
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Speaker 2: mixed results, I would say, And I don't think they

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02:14:55,280 --> 02:14:58,200
Speaker 2: wanted to do that against the Jaguars very much because

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02:14:58,240 --> 02:15:00,160
Speaker 2: their defense had been on the field for so long

2640
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Speaker 2: and had incurred injuries.

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Speaker 7: That's the risk.

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02:15:02,160 --> 02:15:05,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, that is the risk, And I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You may have to try it though. I remember there

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02:15:07,720 --> 02:15:10,400
Speaker 2: were times even last year where they started running like

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02:15:10,400 --> 02:15:12,880
Speaker 2: a two minute drill type offense to try to kick

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02:15:12,880 --> 02:15:14,720
Speaker 2: it into a rhythm. You may have to try something

2647
02:15:14,760 --> 02:15:15,000
Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and they've been successful in the two minutes. I

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02:15:16,840 --> 02:15:19,920
Speaker 7: mean the forty five second drive in against Jacksonville they

2650
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Speaker 7: looked really good. Of course that was a different defensive

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02:15:21,840 --> 02:15:25,480
Speaker 7: scheme for the Jacksonville Jaguars. But yeah, they'll try everything,

2652
02:15:25,480 --> 02:15:28,320
Speaker 7: and everything's on the table. But with every risk or

2653
02:15:28,360 --> 02:15:32,200
Speaker 7: try attempt that you make, there's a backhanded backside of

2654
02:15:32,200 --> 02:15:34,240
Speaker 7: that blade too, So you gotta watch it.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow with Dan Orlovsky