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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with her radio. It's a big week at the Almost

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Speaker 1: Famous Podcast. We are no longer in the off season.

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Speaker 1: In fact, Ashley I con Eddie did a tremendous job

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Speaker 1: interviewing this year's bachelor, Zach. You can go back and

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Speaker 1: listen to it if you haven't already. It's worth listening to.

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Speaker 1: Ashley did not hold back with questions and and Zach

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Speaker 1: didn't hold back with answers. I thought it was a

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Speaker 1: great interview. I left it being excited to meet him.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna meet him next week uh in uh in California,

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Speaker 1: uh at the Pebble Beach a T and t um

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Speaker 1: pro am, And I'm excited to meet him. I think

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Speaker 1: he's probably a great dude. I have my thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the first episode. We'll talk about later, but I thought

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Speaker 1: your interview was great, Ashley. Thanks Ben, that's so sweet

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Speaker 1: of you. You did a good job. Now I wasn't

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Speaker 1: on that interview because this last week I was at

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Speaker 1: my favorite event, or at least one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: events of the year. It is the Hilton Grand Vacations

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Speaker 1: Tournament of Champions. It's a golf tournament we won't bore

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Speaker 1: you with golf. I will say that somehow, some way,

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Speaker 1: Chris Harrison did beat Wells and I both somehow some way,

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Speaker 1: pretty sure that was the obvious winner. No, not at all.

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Speaker 1: We're close to the same, all three of us. You know,

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Speaker 1: we go back and forth on who be two and

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Speaker 1: how who beat two? Chris kind of has that, I

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Speaker 1: Wells and I were. No matter who's better at anything,

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Speaker 1: he always somehow finds a way to win. Well, maybe

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Speaker 1: it's because he has over ten years of experience on

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Speaker 1: the course. So were you guys? Yeah, well he's never

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Speaker 1: played this though he's never played this event, this was

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Speaker 1: his uh first time playing at Lake Nona Wells. I

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Speaker 1: would say he's the most talented golfer. I think Chris

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Speaker 1: would admit that too. Out of the three of us,

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Speaker 1: really high. And then Chris is kind of that just

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Speaker 1: like that turtle who just walks slowly, doesn't do anything crazy,

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Speaker 1: but he just did what he needed to do to

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Speaker 1: give obviously, um, a big thing coming out of this

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Speaker 1: weekend for some people, not really as much for me.

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Speaker 1: But you can listen to Chris Harrison's new podcast, the

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Speaker 1: most dramatic pod ever, and get super enjoyable. I can

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Speaker 1: catch you up on the episodes out now. I am.

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Speaker 1: I've gotten caught up to. Yeah. It's great to hear

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Speaker 1: his voice again. There's something just so soothing and like,

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Speaker 1: I feel like listening to it that I would enjoy

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Speaker 1: listening to it even if I wasn't a Bachelor fan

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Speaker 1: and didn't know him. Well, I think that's probably the hope, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he has he has a building fan base.

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Speaker 1: Gonna happen. Yeah, But his relationship advice is very good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, in general, his advice is very good. He's

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Speaker 1: seen a lot of things, but he uh, he was

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Speaker 1: there this weekend with us. Um so was Chris Lane,

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Speaker 1: who was married to uh Lauren Lane formerly Lauren Bushnell,

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Speaker 1: do you want to run into your exes? Maybe some

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Speaker 1: they're not they're cool with it. I don't do it often,

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Speaker 1: were both very happy. But that first interaction was going

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Speaker 1: And it was awesome, It really was. It was really

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Speaker 1: so they're in this interview with who knows who, like

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Speaker 1: it does feel like a week of bliss. My my

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Speaker 1: I've been doing this for six years, Ashley. We have

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's good material for his most dramatic podcast ever.

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Speaker 1: Here's a good story for example, the stories come out.

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Speaker 1: a bunch of movies. Really good looking Feller looks good

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Speaker 1: He's good at this stuff. I mean when we sat

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Speaker 1: excited about Zack being the Bachelor, and then they have

428
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, him curling, and then you know, it's like

429
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 1: they tried really hard, and I just think they didn't.

430
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: And so the first episode kind of feel like a

431
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: throwaway to me because what they tried to do did

432
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: not work. That's my opinion, very very very well put,

433
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: very well put. Should we jump into the girls now?

434
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 1: I will say there are some there's a good memorable girls.

435
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 1: And I'm glad that they brought back packages because I

436
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: remembering correctly that like last year there wasn't packages or

437
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: one of the past few seasons there wasn't. And I

438
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 1: do think it gets you to know the main characters better. Yeah,

439
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: they're they're really There are some ones that I feel

440
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: like he has an actual chance with. Um. I say

441
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: that as if there's not normally, but you know what

442
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, there are girls that I can like

443
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 1: five that I can name and be like, Okay, this one,

444
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 1: this one, this one, these are the ones to watch

445
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 1: half for. Brianna is well, she's the last one. At

446
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: the moment, we know she's safe. This is like kind

447
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: of a little recap that we get at the beginning

448
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: of the episode. You know that she's safe because she's

449
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 1: got America's first impression Rose. Um. There were five girls

450
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: at after the phone, Rose Bailey your friend being one

451
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: of them, and he ends up forgetting her name. Um,

452
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: he calls her Baylin and whatever. You know that things

453
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 1: like that happen. Um. Then there's Catherine and that's her.

454
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: She's got a package next. And I feel like Catherine

455
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 1: is very much a front runner right now. I would

456
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: talk about how attractive she is, and she has like

457
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: a nice calumnist there's something there anything else said about Catherine. No,

458
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 1: I think she I think Katherine. I don't remember the

459
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: girl's name um, which I'm sure we can find out

460
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: very soon and I'll reference it. I think the two

461
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: front runners are Katherine and then Um for me, the

462
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: girl that no not career, I mean yeah, sure, I

463
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: mean she's up there, but it would be the girl

464
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 1: that kind of um consoled Madison as she was walking out.

465
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: She was very calm and she was kind of like

466
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: I can she like made a Harry wise and like, um,

467
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: just carrying comment where She's like I can kind of

468
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: see that some of the girls are getting upset and

469
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: that that's tough, and you know, she's just kind of

470
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: like going to be there for the girls. I don't

471
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: know her name, will find that out, but yeah, Catherine

472
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: is definitely a front runner to me. She's somebody that

473
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: stood out. UM. She's beautiful, like you said, she's calm,

474
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: she's collected, and she just feels like she belongs there. Yeah.

475
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 1: Christina is up next as far as the packages goes.

476
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: She's so Nashville. She has a five year old daughter.

477
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: She's got a vibe. I don't know whether she's going

478
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: to be a vibe for Zach, but she's definitely getting

479
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: from in the house. She might be a shipster. What

480
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: do you think or is she going to be a

481
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: girls girl. I think she'll be a girls girl. I do.

482
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: I think she Yeah, I think she's gonna be a

483
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: big personality. I just don't think she's going to try

484
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: to like mess things up. I just think she's gonna

485
00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: be a big personality in the house that the girls

486
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: are going to either like really gravitate to or the

487
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: quieter ones are just kind of gonna sit back on

488
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: the set. She looks exactly like Kelsey Ballerini meets Lauren Conrad.

489
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: Is she the one that at the end of the

490
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: episode was doing the kegels? Yeah, I think so. I

491
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: like that part. I was like, that girl's chill, like

492
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: she's funny. She was responding to their questions really well.

493
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: She was like making a lot of humor out of it. Um.

494
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: I was like, that girl could go a long ways,

495
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: like she's got she's got what it takes m hm.

496
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: And then Charity. She is a child family therapist. She

497
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: loves her job, she finds it really rewarding. Uh. She

498
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: she's eager to get married. Jared pointed out that he

499
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: hates it when the girls say eager to get married,

500
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: because it's like, are you eager to find like somebody

501
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: spend the rest of your life with, or do you

502
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: just like want the the what d you doesn't want

503
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: that title? We are we looking to into it? I

504
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: think what he would prefer then them to say, I'm

505
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: just really ready to find love. Yeah, okay, I mean

506
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: that's what they meant. Yeah, you know, I'm sure it is.

507
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: I don't really remember charity Charity. I know if I

508
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: saw her face, I would I know Charity because I

509
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: think he made the comment about how beautiful her name was,

510
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: Uh you need your name was, so I do remember that. Um.

511
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: I think all the packages highlighted women who are going

512
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: to be there a while. I don't think any of

513
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: the packages home one night one right right. That is

514
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: a big thing because sometimes they pepper in packages from

515
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: women who like leave night one and it's just like,

516
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: why did you even waste that time? Yeah, these girls,

517
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: I definitely think are here to stay. So Career's next.

518
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: She's in Houston, Texas, and we see later in the

519
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: episode that they have a real bonding moment about Texas.

520
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: Their conversation is probably the easiest of the night. Would

521
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: you agree with that? She's also just like that girl

522
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: that barely has any makeup on and looks great and

523
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: guys lover. Yeah, it's definitely one of the easiest conversations

524
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: I think I'm getting every season. You try to understand

525
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: the lead and I think I know zax um thing

526
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: when he's feeling awkward or nervous, and he closes his

527
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: eyes when he talks, like he's saying words and closing

528
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: his eyes at the same time, because I think he's nervous,

529
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: which is fairy right. I licked my lips. Everybody has

530
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: a thing um with her. He didn't close his eyes

531
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: and talk. He he was very in the moment. It

532
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: felt very relaxed, and from my perspective, if since he

533
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: wasn't doing that, he was just enjoying the conversation, which

534
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: is a good sign. Yeah, she made him feel so

535
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: comfortable because she was way more comfortable in the environment

536
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: than he was. And I think he could just be like, oh, okay,

537
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let her carry this, and that made him

538
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: feel just at ease. You need that. Yeah, Okay. So

539
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, she's the rodeo girl. I don't really think

540
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: that anything else stood out about her to me. But

541
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: Brianna is next and Brianna was again the first impression Rose.

542
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: She has her own beauty company. I feel like she's

543
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: gonna be around for a while or do you think

544
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: that she's gonna be one of those Well, she's not

545
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: a first impression Rose, she's America's first impression Ros. Do

546
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: you think that she's gonna be around a while or

547
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: this is just America's choice in Zack's like not as

548
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: into it as America's. I don't know how you wouldn't

549
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: be into it. Yeah, she's stunning, Yeah, and she seems

550
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: really sweet. She was great, Um, she didn't. She didn't

551
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: cause drama. Like she could have easily been the person

552
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: that had the rose walking in and then also just

553
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: go in and like be reckless with it, and she wasn't.

554
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: And so I think she'll be around a long time. Uh,

555
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: And I I feel like she's gonna be somebody that

556
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: we really get to know through this show. So America

557
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: made a good choice with that first Impression Rose. You

558
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: think the producers gave her that rose dress? Yes, there's

559
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: no way. She just had it in her luggage. Well,

560
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of something that I would do. Yeah, No,

561
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: I think she I mean, my my guess is that

562
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: that was set up well. She looked great in that dress.

563
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: Beautiful all right. Next up in the last package was

564
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: Katie from Austin, and she's a nurse and she also

565
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: really makes me feel like she's going to be there

566
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: for a while. I think that he's very into her. Again,

567
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: there's the same sort of like composure, calmness, beauty. They

568
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: really couldn't go wrong a lot of nurses this season.

569
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: If anything ever happens in the house, I feel like

570
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: they're very well protected. A lot of nurses this season. Yeah,

571
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I go back to it. Like the packages

572
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: this season seemed to introduce people who we're going to

573
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: be around and going to be there, which is why

574
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: I went through the packages. You know. I was like, Okay,

575
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: let's go through the package because let's just talk about

576
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: these girls. Because when I look back on the episode,

577
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: thes are pretty much the girls that I remember through

578
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: limo entrances. Do you remember any I don't. I have

579
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 1: to say not a lot of entrances really stood out

580
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: to me. There wasn't a lot of shock factor entrances,

581
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: which I am down for. Let's just get through it.

582
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: I thought that it was discussing that that one girl

583
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: licked his ear. I mean I wouldn't like that. No,

584
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 1: but I mean it happens. No, you wouldn't. No, I wouldn't.

585
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: It's gross. She well, she didn't make it past night one,

586
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: so yeah, I know, of course she didn't. Yeah, it's

587
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: not it's like, like it's not a great thing. I

588
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: mean a couple of things in the limit entrances. One,

589
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: why in the world that Jesse Palmer smells Zack's breath.

590
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: I don't do that with my wife. I don't want

591
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: her to do that to me. He's, you know, sticking

592
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: those way up there. It's like, if you think it's

593
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: not great, then just hand him a listening stript. Weird

594
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: moment there. I don't know why it has to happen,

595
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: you know. The really, there's only a few limit entrances that,

596
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: um it's it out to me. One is that he

597
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: kissed Bailey. Uh yeah, kind of out of nowhere, kind

598
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: of just like, hey, do you remember my name? Yeah, Bailey?

599
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: And then he leans in and kisses her. It's like,

600
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: I mean cool, Like, if that's how we're gonna play this.

601
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: He felt so bad about forgetting her name on stage

602
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: and this is only a couple of days after this,

603
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: and I think he was just like, how do I

604
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: make her feel comfortable and know that, like she actually

605
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: did make an impression on me, But but I just

606
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: I didn't remember her name fair enough. Um. I don't

607
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: know if we've ever have we ever seen like a

608
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: legit first kiss. No, we've seen like girls come in,

609
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: come in and kiss him. Um, but have we seen

610
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: the bleed? Actually, Like, I don't kiss somebody. It's like

611
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: on the limit entrances. I don't think so. I mean

612
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: in a sense, and he already met Bailey kind of

613
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: so like he's met her before. But in a lot

614
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: of ways, it would be if you take away the

615
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: fact that they met on live tell television, it would

616
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: be somebody just getting out of a car for the

617
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: first time, saying, hey, this is a great first day,

618
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: and then you're like cool and then you just lean in.

619
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: That's so true. I don't know, no, no, I don't

620
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: think that's happened in the past that we've been watching. Yeah,

621
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: but it's just the weirdest thing that even like these

622
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: people sit down for ten minutes and kiss. I was

623
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,959
Speaker 1: thinking about this last night. Well, someone we're gonna talk

624
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: about you did it? You did it? Did you kiss

625
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, but like back in your day, you

626
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: like kiss one or two people tops, Yeah, it can

627
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: have been more than one. Yeah, Like Crystals only kissed

628
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: Britt and we didn't even know that until after the fact.

629
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: Some we're gonna talk about here coming up, um, right

630
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: after this break, we're gonna talk about the most kisses

631
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: we've ever seen on Night one? How do we feel

632
00:33:52,160 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: about it? Wait? Ben, is it really technically like have

633
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: we Bachelor data? This? This is the seven seven kisses? No,

634
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: don't do it, guys. It's so nice to only have

635
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 1: one or two like actually means something. I know that

636
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: what's her name? Madison? She just threw herself at him,

637
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: so like does that you know? And and Holland you know, um,

638
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: Holland him It was Madison. It was Madison. Sorry Madison. Yeah, yeah,

639
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: Holland had the entrance I did remember you went to

640
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: Holland last season. You were in the wrong Holland. I

641
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: thought it was kind of funny, funny. It wasn't dirty

642
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: enough to be like, yeah, this is kind of funny.

643
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: Another entrance that I have to say I remembered was

644
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: actually Madison's because I think her insecurity started creeping up

645
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: early when he didn't like the taste of the syrup,

646
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: which like, why was he so weird about the syrup?

647
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: You like it sugar? I don't know so, Ashley. If

648
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: you remember back a few years ago, I had this

649
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: ery on this show. When you're the lead, you start

650
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: making out when conversation feels duck, when you feel awkward. Uh,

651
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: you might be physically attracted the person, You might be

652
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: attracted to the person, but you have nothing else to say.

653
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: And I think I said it a few seasons ago,

654
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: I said, I am watching as a viewer to see

655
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: how many kissing scenes we see and how many conversations

656
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: we see. I think it was Matt James this season

657
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: when we were complaining throughout the season that we don't

658
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 1: really know these women, that all we're seeing is Matt

659
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: kissing them, and we don't know these women because we

660
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: didn't feel like Matt was asking the follow up questions,

661
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: asking the questions that were obvious, asking the things that

662
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: would bring out who the person is and why they

663
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 1: are the way they are. Night one for me makes

664
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: me concerned for that for the rest of the season,

665
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: because I felt like he was kissing people. Now he

666
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: was asking, and it was sweet at times, and and

667
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: maybe it felt appropriate. But night one is a very

668
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: easy night for conversations. You know nothing about this person.

669
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: You can ask anything and you're gonna learn it, and

670
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna follow up and you're gonna hear more and

671
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: get to understand who these people are. Night one, to

672
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: me feels like it's a very odd time to kiss

673
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: seven people because I, from my perspective and my judgment,

674
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 1: would say, you're covering up the fact that you don't

675
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: know what else to talk about. And if you're already

676
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: feeling that way on night one, when it's the easiest

677
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: to have things to talk about, how is it gonna

678
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: look in week six. It's interesting that you say night

679
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,959
Speaker 1: one is the easiest thing to the easiest time to talk,

680
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: and now I'm thinking I kind of agree. It's because

681
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: everyone's strangers, so you literally like, so tell me about

682
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: your life, and like those those things can pick up

683
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: a conversation really easily. Yeah, it's the dates that are

684
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: like nine hours long and they're so quiet that makes

685
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 1: you feel a bit more awkward. We have to understand

686
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: that as when you're in that these conversations are no

687
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: more than ten minutes long. They there are most ten

688
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: minutes would be a long first night conversation. They're very short,

689
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: and so within that five to ten minutes, if you

690
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: are kissing them, then you are obviously either moving very

691
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: quickly and you're just feeling the physical vibe. If it

692
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: was with one person, I'd say, WHOA, there's a connection there, right,

693
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: it's the it's it's something, there's some fire that they're

694
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 1: seeing in each other. But when it happens seven times,

695
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: I am hesitant and I am concerned about the fact

696
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: that you can't carry a conversation for five minutes to

697
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: ten minutes with somebody that you've never met before, and

698
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: as a result, you have to kiss them to show

699
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: them that you're interested. Is there not another way to

700
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: show him you're interested, Marty? Just tell them, Hey, I

701
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: really enjoyed this conversation. I'm very like attracted to you.

702
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: I'm excited to get to know you more. There's so

703
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: much more I have to learn about you. Instead, the

704
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: default is let's just make out, which also is not

705
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: a great thing for the other woman to see. It

706
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: was something that most bachelors are very protective of is Hey,

707
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to kiss somebody in front of other women.

708
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: You know some of these women, one of these women

709
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: might be my wife. I don't want her to see

710
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: me making out with somebody else. But there was no

711
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: shame in that this season. There's no shame. Everybody saw everything,

712
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: like every kiss the women are watching now. That could

713
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: be the producers, could be I don't know, but night

714
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: one is not the night to do it. It's an

715
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: open stage. It's an open area. There's not a lot

716
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: of place to hide. If it would if if I

717
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: was on the advisement committee, I would say, hey, just

718
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: cool up for night one. Start night to do it

719
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: that time. Here's a small theory. Maybe because there wasn't

720
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: as much of an interest in him, they thought, how

721
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: do we make women really go crazy and how do

722
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 1: we get them to be possessive of? And that could

723
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: be watching him get physical with another girl. Possibly. I

724
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just really spitballing here. I mean, I

725
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: think I don't really think that's what it is. I

726
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: think your theory is correct. I think he probably just

727
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: felt a little awkward and he was like, what do

728
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: I know how to do? Which is the concern for

729
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: most people going into this season that Zak is going

730
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: to be very awkward and hard to watch, right, I

731
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 1: mean that's that's that is the critique of this season

732
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: going into it. So this didn't help me on that.

733
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: All right, well, Ben, I mean you're on fire today.

734
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: You could literally have done this podcast on your own.

735
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: He's got these theories and got bullet points, and you

736
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: really analyze this episode. I love it. Well. I want

737
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: Zack to thrive, I do. I want this to be

738
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: a great season for him. I want him to come

739
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: out of this finding love. I think Zach is I

740
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: will say this, I think he is the type of

741
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: person that will come off the show with a partner

742
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: and I would not be shock if they're going to

743
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 1: be together forever. I do think he has the desire

744
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: to find love. I think he has um the openness

745
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: to this experience. I also think Zach is looking at

746
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: this thing like I kind of hit the lottery, Like,

747
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: you know, I have thirtiesome beautiful women here trying to

748
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: date me and just like falling over me. And I

749
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: don't know how many times that's happened in Zack's life.

750
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: Were like you know, he's been pursued in this kind

751
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: of like capacity, and so I think it's a good

752
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 1: opportunity for him. I do. I think Zach could give

753
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: us a great love story, and I'm excited to watch that.

754
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: I would just say, yes, my my night. One critiques

755
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: are very critical because I didn't get anything that I

756
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: was wanting to get her. I think a lot of

757
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: viewers were wanting to get out of this first episode.

758
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: I just concur That's all I can say that I

759
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: agree with you. I'm pretty much everything you're saying. I mean,

760
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 1: Jesse even said Zack's like has this like he's so funny,

761
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: has this great sense of humor. It's like, what, we

762
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: haven't seen any of it, and we didn't see any

763
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: of it, Like, okay, then show him cracking a joke.

764
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 1: She'll make him fun of himself. Speaking of like trying

765
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: to be funny, I guess was Madison's moment when she

766
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: was dancing what was it called the giddy the jitty

767
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: they with the dance whenever. I've never heard of it before.

768
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: But also I'm like, mom, is it okay? I'm say,

769
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: uh so they're doing the dance thing and then she

770
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: kisses him and it's awkward. And then he's like he

771
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: but first he was like, I don't want to dance anymore.

772
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: Let's not dancing, Moore, that's enough. And then she kisses

773
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: him and he's like, let's continue to dance. So awkward,

774
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: he wasn't into it. But it was also like she

775
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: was being a little cry She was, but it's also

776
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what kind of expectations everybody

777
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: has going in to night one. It felt like she

778
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: had a lot, like I just want him to recognize me.

779
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: It's like, well, you got one thirty chance for that,

780
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: so don't freak out if on night one you're not

781
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: the one that stands out. You've got a long time

782
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,959
Speaker 1: in front of here, still out, hang out, have a drink.

783
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: I was like, all I want is a little like

784
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: sparkle in his eye, like to see him like maybe

785
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: like double take at me. That's all I'm asking for.

786
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a lot, and you're kind of

787
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 1: in a whirlwind as the lead. You're turning in circles,

788
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: like every second you get there's somebody coming from this direction,

789
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: in this direction, in this direction, and to focus on

790
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: one person, to recognize one person, and to have that

791
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: sparkle like that that is doesn't happen every season. So

792
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: I wish, you know, she would have been told, hey,

793
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: just take a seat, hang out, you're good. She may

794
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: have made it through the night. She may have made

795
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: it through the night she she died. She could have

796
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: made it through the night. She reminded me a lot

797
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: of how Lace uh kind of felt on um my season.

798
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: Lace was overwhelmed with just like so much happening and

799
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,479
Speaker 1: there is a lot happening, and there's cameras, and there's people,

800
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: and there's conversations, and then you all all, you all

801
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: are pursuing this one lead. And if if if you're

802
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: not like maybe in a great space, if you're not confident,

803
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 1: if you have some like insecurities that maybe you haven't

804
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: spoken to or tried to work through, they will come

805
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: out and they can come out and they can come

806
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: out with a vengeance. And sometimes we don't see those

807
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: insecurities for a couple of weeks on this show. But

808
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, Lace just needed to go home, like she did.

809
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: She just and then that that was not necessarily even

810
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: my decisions. She just knew she needed to get out

811
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: of there because it wasn't creating a healthy environment for her.

812
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: I think the same thing from Madison. She needed to

813
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: go home. As soon as she started to cry on

814
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: night one, like she was, the first thing I thought

815
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: was like, this girl needs to get out of here.

816
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: This is not going to be healthy for her. This

817
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: is not gonna get any better for her. This is

818
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: not going to be one of those people, as we've

819
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: talked about, who leaves this show no matter when they

820
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: leave it and say I'm glad I did it. Yeah,

821
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: leaving on night one is usually and it would be

822
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: crying over. It's obviously not about you thinking that that

823
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: guy is your person. It's about like just the national rejection. Yeah,

824
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: which which sucks. I'm sure. I mean, I'm sure that hurts,

825
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: and I'm sure it's weird, and I'm sure you have

826
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, she said I give up my

827
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: life for this. I don't know what kind of life

828
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: she gave up for this. Don't do that. If anybody's

829
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: listening and they're thinking about going on the show next season,

830
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: don't give up your life for this show. Like figure

831
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: out a way to you know, block out some time,

832
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: but like, don't go into this thinking that life's gonna change.

833
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: For you. Traditionally it doesn't. Historically it doesn't, and so

834
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: don't have that perspective, and it puts too much pressure

835
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: on the situation. It puts so much weight on every

836
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: interaction with the lead. You want to make sure this

837
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: person is right for you. You want to make sure

838
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: you're right for them, and just hang out, have fun

839
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: with it. Treat it like a sorority house or a

840
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 1: frat house, like, just enjoy the ride for as long

841
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: as you're riding. M all right. Well, when we look

842
00:44:54,480 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: at the rejects, Kara, Laca, Holland, Olivia, l Olivia, m Becca, Sonja, Vanessa,

843
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: and Victoria, I don't remember any of them except for

844
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: like who licked him and then Holland who wanted him

845
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: inside her? Do you remember? And it's pretty pretty typical

846
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: of the first row ceremony. It is there was one

847
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: girl that I had never seen. She was like a

848
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: taller blonde um who was very pretty that kind of

849
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: like snuck up and she was gone. I don't know

850
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: who what her name was, but I was like, huh,

851
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: we never saw anything about her, but I don't even

852
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: if we saw her limit limo entrance. Um. So that

853
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: was maybe a little of a shock. There's always one.

854
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: Gotta be the grocery shore jail. Yeah, yeah, definitely, So no,

855
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: nothing surprising on night one. Don't think any of our standouts,

856
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: any of the people focused on, didn't get shown and

857
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: they had to go home, so night one's over. It

858
00:45:54,520 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: did look eerily bright, like the sun was every time.

859
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: Every season it gets brighter and brighter. I was gonna say,

860
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: like some seasons you can kind of see the sun

861
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: coming up over the mountains there. Um, this season, it

862
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: felt like the sun was nice and high in the sky.

863
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: Time it was lunchtime. Those poor girls had to go

864
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: back to the hotel and sleep and then wake up

865
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: and get back on a flight and go home and

866
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: be like, I don't know what just happened to me?

867
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: Not a flight, It was weird. Yeah, what flight are

868
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: you talking about? For all the people that had to

869
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 1: go home on nightline. Oh, those girls had to go home, Okay,

870
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: they had to fly home. I don't think they ride

871
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: their bikes. Oh no, sorry, thinking thinking about the other girls.

872
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: They go to the hotel for a night and then

873
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: pack up their stuff and then move into the mansion.

874
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: The next night. They're moving into the mansion so overall,

875
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: it was a Night one. I'm not going to get

876
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: too critical of the rest of the season. I don't

877
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: know the highlights for the rest of season look like

878
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 1: how every season goes. There's tears, and there's people upset,

879
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: and there's people leaving, and there's you know, you know,

880
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: Zack fully sharing how much he wishes somebody would come back.

881
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: And I think it's gonna be, um a fine season.

882
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: I was hoping Night one just kind of blasted us

883
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: off into this whole new stratosphere of excitement. I would

884
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 1: say this could probably be another season where Week three

885
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: I don't watch till Week six and I'm fine with it. Um,

886
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: I hope not, but we'll find out next week after

887
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: watching the episode. And it's been another season where they

888
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: decided not to mix up Night one. I just want

889
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: something crazy on Night one. Yeah, mix it up a

890
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: little bit, like give us something different. I'll say. In

891
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,959
Speaker 1: the scene to the next episode, there's like no fence jump,

892
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: but there's no moment that they'll be teasing for a while,

893
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: which kind of makes me nervous. Well, I think the

894
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: part that they'll be teasing will be the fact that

895
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: somebody leaves or that he lets somebody go home that

896
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: he really wishes comes back. Yeah, which, hey, I would

897
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: be a good storyline. Yeah, alright, Ashley, we uh, we

898
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: gotta do headlines. There are a few today. Um, let's

899
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: dive into it. There's Bachelor Nation headlines. The first headline

900
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: is one that threw me off, surprised me, um, saddened

901
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: me um as. I know a lot of people in

902
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation felt. Former bachelorette Dianna and stevens split after

903
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: eleven years of marriage. I know so sad. So if

904
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: you guys don't know their backstory, Steven Stagliano was actually

905
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: the brother of somebody who was a contestant on another

906
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: prior prior Bachelor at season, and the two of them

907
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: met through Bachelor Nation and they've been married for eleven years.

908
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: And they said, it's with immense sadness that Stephen and

909
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: I have decided to end our relationship as a couple.

910
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: We've been working hard for a long time, both as

911
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: a married couple and its individuals, and have come to

912
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: the conclusion to remain separate. We remain loving parents who

913
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: are beautiful children Addison in Austin, and will continue to

914
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: raise them together with love and faith and we respect

915
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: and please respect our privacy during the civil of time

916
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: as we navigate the new normal. Um, they've been the

917
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: children are eight and six, and she said in two

918
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen she opened up about the marriage and she said,

919
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: we think you're crazy if you don't go to therapy. Um.

920
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: We are all a product of our environment and how

921
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: we were raised, and none of us are perfect. Yeah. Well,

922
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: it's tough news. We had her on the podcast last

923
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: year as they were moving. UM, I remember talking to her,

924
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: wishing the best as they start this new journey. As

925
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: they say, UM, co parenting still but doing it in

926
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 1: separate places. Well, Kristen Cavalary seemingly confirms date with Tyler Cameron.

927
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: UM romance speculation. This is a good headline. So if

928
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: you guys remember on New Year's Eve, UM, it was

929
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: Kristen and her hairstylist and his boyfriend with Tyler and

930
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: Caitlin and Jason out to dinner and people are like, well,

931
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: it seems like everybody at that table is coupled up. Well,

932
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: now she's kind of seemingly confirming this because she says,

933
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: my last date was public. She said this on her podcast.

934
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: My last day was public, So if you really want

935
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: to know, I guess you can google it. I know

936
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: she said that. Um, she doesn't have to say it,

937
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: but it was New Year's weekend, New Year's Eve weekend,

938
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: and uh, that's that's all she said. But she will

939
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: let you know when she's getting someone serious and is

940
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: it a committed relationship. She's the kind of person that

941
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: will shout it from the rooftops. But until then, she's

942
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: not going to comment on her love life any further, said,

943
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: your girl's going to have fun. So they met you, guys,

944
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: um when they were doing a collab for something. I

945
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: think he was modeling something, perhaps without com James, Yeah, James, Yeah.

946
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: So now you know, we always kind of thought this

947
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: would happen, always assumed. Well, Natasha Parker leaves Bachelor podcast

948
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 1: because of issues with franchise. Did you hear about this? Weird?

949
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: I mean not weird. I mean I'm sure there's a

950
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: good reason for it, but she's very vague about it.

951
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: She talks about it on click Bait. She said she's

952
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: leaving the podcast. She says that she's not going to

953
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: get into the who, what, why, and where and all

954
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: that stuff. Um, but in the past six months, she's

955
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: seen stuff happening in the franchise that is basically not

956
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: for her. She says, sometimes being part of the franchise

957
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: is hard to continue with and just like let that

958
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: be that. She says, the click pay producers are amazing

959
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: and she wants to continue podcasting. But he's like in

960
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: her own way, so we really don't get much. We

961
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. We don't know what happened

962
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 1: in the last six months that made her make this decision.

963
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: Six months. Yeah, so maybe we'll find out if she

964
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: does come out with her new show. I'll be listening

965
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: to that. Well. Next inline is this shooting her shot

966
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: Bachelor alum Michelle Young since flirty message to Michael B.

967
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: Jordan's So this is this really funny TikTok trend where

968
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: basically it goes my mom says, never get into a

969
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: stranger's car, and then you show a stranger who's really

970
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: hot pretty much a celebrity. IM pretty sure it's always

971
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: a celebrity in the next little flash, and then you

972
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: show yourself or this guy getting into the car to

973
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 1: crazy manner. I personally love the Joe Burrow one, but

974
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: in Michelle's case, she's putting she's putting Michael b Jordan's

975
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: in that car, saying get in, and she jumps right in.

976
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: So she's not saying this really directly to Michael b Jordan's,

977
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: but she's putting the video out there and we are.

978
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: I am hoping that this becomes a thing and then

979
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: he sees it and reaches out. I hope so well.

980
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: Speaking of romance, bachelorette Gabby Wendy in Jersey Shore's Vinny

981
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: caught holding hands on Flirty night out for Dancing with

982
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: the Stars tour stop. All right, the headline is misleading.

983
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,479
Speaker 1: They weren't caught holding hands on a Flirty unit out

984
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: for Dancing with the Stars. The held hands on stage

985
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: a Dancing with the Stars. I'm reading these little bits,

986
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: you know that they are um in Atlantic City, that

987
00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: they did Ford shows together in Atlantic City, and everybody's like,

988
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: you know, doing this the dating speculation and they're like

989
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: always flirtatious, blah blah. But then like I get to

990
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: the crux of this article and it just says that

991
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: they're holding hands on stage and it seemed genuine like

992
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: this is no, this is exactly what they do. And

993
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: headlines and it's so silly. They held hands when they

994
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: bowed to the audience at the end. It seemed like

995
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: they held hands a few times, but it could have

996
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: been a part of a routine. So in the end,

997
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: still kind of they are they? Are they not? Are they?

998
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: Or are they not? Situation with Gabby and Vinny. I

999
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: think they could be playing into it. We're rooting it on.

1000
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: Can it just happen? Do you think at this point

1001
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: it's just like they're just kind of playing with it

1002
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: and it's not legit because it would have like we

1003
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: would have seen more and heard more if it was

1004
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: still happen. Next headline one that will celebrate Bachelor Paradise Alam.

1005
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: Michelle Money engaged to golfer Mike Weir. Me and you

1006
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: forever is her quote. Alright, So Michelle Money and her

1007
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: her now fiance golfer mic Weir have been together for

1008
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: seven years and they haven't talked about um basically not

1009
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: getting married in the past, just being like, we are

1010
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: committed to each other forever, but we don't need a

1011
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: piece of paper to make it legally official. But now

1012
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: they've changed their mind. Michelle talks about on her into story.

1013
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: I think she just was like you know, let's it's

1014
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: just a change of mind, truly, and the two of

1015
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: them had really cute Instagram posts I love you, I'm

1016
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: so lucky, um mine, and of course Bachelor Nation was

1017
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: very prominent in the comments underneath um all congratulating them

1018
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: and so happy. Michelle Money is a serious favorite of

1019
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: the franchise. She definitely is. We're really really excited for her. UM. Well,

1020
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: that's all the headlines we have for you today. I

1021
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,720
Speaker 1: do want to say, Ashley that as you were breaking

1022
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,959
Speaker 1: this down, the ratings for last night came out. Oh god.

1023
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: The headline is speaking that the Bachelor producers and exects

1024
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: do believe the season will be down and may um

1025
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: hurt the show drastically in some capacity. Last night the

1026
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: show had two point eight million viewers and a zero

1027
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: point six rating. It's down from last year's even premiere

1028
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 1: of three point five million viewers and a point eight ratings,

1029
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: So it's down seven thousand viewers. That is not good.

1030
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 1: It's down to two point eight million viewers um, which

1031
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: is a drastic decline from even four years ago. Klein

1032
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: in a year, massive decline, huge percentage there. So it

1033
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: makes us wonder once again If the headline is that

1034
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: the Bachelor producers are concerned internally about this season having

1035
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: low ratings, why in the world are they making the

1036
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: decisions they're making. That's not for us to side. That's

1037
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: for us to analyze and to critique and to make

1038
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: assumptions about. And we'll do that every week right here

1039
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: on the Almost Famous Podcast. Yes we will, So until

1040
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: next time, I've been been as Follow the Benn and

1041
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on iHeart Radio or subscribe

1042
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcasts.