WEBVTT - EA Podcast: Episode 25 with Bart Scott 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.760 All right, the pot is under way here in Florhing Park. 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:06.000 Bart Scott has made his way back into the studio. 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:10.520 We haven't talked on this platform in a couple of 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:14.319 weeks since then. Joe McKnight was gunned down in the 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:21.160 road rage the incident, and then earlier this week, Conrad 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:25.759 Ruling died following a brain aneurism. Uh, it's been a 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:29.400 tough year for our family. Dennis Burg earlier, Dennis Byrd, 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:35.600 Winston Hill, Curly Johnson, Carrie Blanchard Um and and the 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:38.800 list goes on. And you can talk about Buddy Ryan, 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:43.360 former Jets defensive assistant who was on we View Bank 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:47.160 staff as the Green and White captures the Super Bowl 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:51.880 Championship back in ninety following the sixty eight season January twelve, 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:54.320 nineteen sixty nine, down at the Orange Bowl in Miami. 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:56.640 But I just hope we've done for a while. I hope, 0:00:56.640 --> 0:01:00.040 I hope we just seems to be our year and 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.080 that's what we're done for the next years. Man. It's 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.880 it's been a tough, tough couple of weeks. You know, 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:09.479 it brings your faith to face with your immortality, because 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:12.560 at any point that could be any of us brain aneurhythm. 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:15.800 Really no predictor of how that happened, why it happened 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.800 Joe McKnight, tragic road rage incident, that could be any 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.400 of us. You know, it makes you really appreciate the day. 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:27.040 I appreciate the ones you love, UM, put them a 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:30.280 little closer, tell him you love him, you know, because 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:34.120 you just never know. Man. I know it sounds cliche, 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.440 sounds like you know your parents, but it's just crazy 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:40.000 out here right now. Now you say it's crazy out 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:44.679 here right now with what happened to Joe, what was 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:48.240 your immediate reaction? And also we gotta get into that 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:52.440 you just got back from Louisiana. Now you stopped doing 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:56.040 something out on the West coast with your financial literacy program, 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:59.040 and we know that, but you were in Louisiana, so 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.280 you talked to Joe his family and you were there 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:07.360 as well everyone late Joe the Russ. I just wanted 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.679 to make sure that he had the proper representation as 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.840 a lot of his teammates or guys that he played 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:15.080 with are still playing in the league. You know. I 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:17.200 just want to make sure, you know, as one of 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:19.799 the leaders when I was here, that I continue to 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:21.120 be a leader all the way to the end to 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.240 was final resting place for my teammate. Um, so I 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:28.440 was able to you know me the Brickershaw Ferguson, Antonio Crimarti, 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:32.200 Willie Cologne who already believed played with Joe but but 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:35.280 showed his respects. And it was one of the Paul Bears, 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:40.160 Lyndale White Um and Mark Sanchez. Mark Um caught up 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:43.040 playing stayed after the Sunday night game with the Giant. 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:45.040 You know that just showed you what type of leader. 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:48.720 Not only was he his quarterback in college, he was 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.320 his quarterback in the pros as well. And that's what 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:54.079 it is. It's a brotherhood and you know so many 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:56.960 of its only a select few of us that's fortunate 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.560 enough to make it to this level. Um. And like 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:03.480 I said about comrade, you know, the beautiful thing about 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:07.760 being a teammate is that you have to leave yourself 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:10.919 completely vulnerable. And not a lot of people get to 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.320 see us totally vulnerable. You know, my mother has never 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:15.639 seen maybe my mother saw me vulnerable, My sisters never 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.280 saw me a vulnerable. A lot of my friends never 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.080 saw me a hundred percent vulnerable. But my teammates have 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:27.320 all saw me vulnerable. They saw me um uh emotionally vulnerable, 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:31.799 physically vulnerable, pushing through trying to mentally, you know, tell 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:33.880 the body to do with the body with the mind 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.320 is telling you they can't do. And your teammates are 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:38.160 the ones that that are they're that can help pull 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:42.440 you through. And because it's such a small fraternity, it's 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.160 only so many of us that can understand the pressure 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.720 of the stress and all the things that come along 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.280 with trying to achieve your dream. That's why we're so 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.920 heavily connected. That's why the bond is so strong. Because 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:57.400 what could be my new to other people, it's significant 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:59.920 to us. And if you try and explain it to 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.000 people that's not daring to be greater, trying to achieve 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:06.000 their dream, that childhood dream, they won't understand it. So 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.080 you don't try to explain it. But we can look 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.040 at each other and see how each other feeling. We 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.080 can kind of know what's going through each other's mind 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.160 because we've all been there at some particular time, you know, 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.320 in the best place. The greatest example of that his 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:21.479 training camp, because you stripped down mentally and physically, and 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:24.039 you know you have to lean on your guys when 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.320 you don't have it for them to bring something enough 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.720 for themselves and something for you too. With all that 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:33.720 being said, that Joe had this childlike exuberance to him 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.800 and within the building he seemed to always have a 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.000 smile on his face. He was very well liked by 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.760 his teammates. You just talked about how you were a 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:48.880 Paul Bear at his funeral. The pressures these guys and 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:52.839 you were part of the deal here, uh undergo each 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.359 and every day sometimes can be enormous, and don't you 0:04:55.400 --> 0:05:00.520 think early in his career, Joe, on one hand, he 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:04.479 was so comfortable with being out of the spotlight, but 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:08.520 the spotlight he because of his pedigree. He was one 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:12.599 of the um most highly recruited number one player in 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:17.400 the high school in the country. And then he replaced 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:21.479 the legend at US Reggie Bush, and you know, come 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:24.960 here with the expectations replacing Leon Washington. Let Leon Washington 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:28.240 walked because you know, they brought him in. And you know, 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:30.839 early on, I think he struggled a little bit with 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:34.560 the expectations, as all young players do, trying to make 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.839 the adjudgment from the from the college ranks to the 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:41.040 pros is a tough situation, you know, and learning how 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:42.599 to take care of your body, learning how to be 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.799 a professional. But he was learning at all while balloting 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:49.920 depression from you know, uh Katrina. And you know he 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:51.839 was a young child, a young kid, I believe in 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:54.320 high school in Katrina happened in New Orleans and he 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:56.120 was displaced, and I think he was on the roof 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:59.159 for a long time, you know, and he was champion 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.760 everything that had God got in front of him. He 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.360 had he had beat even to still walking around with 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.320 a smile on his face. And you know, that's what 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:08.560 I'm gonna remember most. I'm gonna remember him coming over 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.400 my house, you know, rolling my side by side and 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.880 not telling me and me saying, man, asked my kids 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:17.080 what happened? Oh uncle Joe rolled over the road the 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:18.960 road to Canada over road in the side of the house, 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:21.520 you know. And you know him going with many bikes 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:23.159 and kind of hanging out, jumping in the pool with 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.800 his son Jaden, you know, his girlfriend at the time, Michelle, 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.640 coming over hanging my wife barbecuing. You know, he was 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.320 always there to be a help. You know. He's one 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.279 of those guys that if you're having something. He was 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:37.080 there early to help you set up, you know, always 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.000 consider that what you may need and and always trying 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:44.360 to do his part. Now you have so many relationships 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:51.000 within the National Football League, the media world, just your 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:54.040 everyday world of people that you will come in contact 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:58.720 with that you have tons of friends. How much have 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.640 you were able how much were you able to keep 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.919 up with you over the years, because obviously a different 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.960 stops along the way in his football career. The latest 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.400 stop was in the Canadian football and I knew he 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:14.320 was going to kind of we had communicated via social media. Um, 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.040 I was fully aware Joe was, you know, champion things, 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:19.120 and I was continued to try and be that mentor. 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:22.080 And you know that some things, when you have friends, 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.600 you have to let them process it themselves, you know. 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.120 I told him what he had to do, had to 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.200 be more of a professional who had to understand that, 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:31.880 you know, he could get another opportunity, but he understood 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:33.200 at this time he was going to have to earn 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:34.560 it and it was gonna be harder than it was 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:36.440 the first time, because once you're out, it's harder to 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:39.000 get back in. But he was making all the necessary steps. 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.760 He was he had a tremendous year early on in 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:43.640 Kansas City before he blew us Achilles out and that 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:45.680 kind of set him back, you know, because he went 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.760 there to replace Dexter mc cluster, and um, he was 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:51.360 doing a great job. And he actually heard himself think 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.680 he was on a long run, which is unfortunate. Um, 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.360 but you know, always was in contact. And we have 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.480 another buddy that we used to go on vacations, Like 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:01.720 me and Joe weren't just like come over the house. 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:05.200 We went on vacations by ourselves together, just me and him, 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:08.360 you know, and the fellas and and and you know, 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:11.000 not just me and him and only football players there. 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:12.560 So it wasn't one of those relationships where we were 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:15.560 just here friends. We're friends like for real, like no 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.240 matter where he went, like, we're that friendship and that 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.880 Bob would never have been broken. Just Nation wants to know, 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:23.720 and you can tell us us right now. How is 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:27.080 his family doing? How are his love I mean, he 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.040 was a beacon of life for them, you know. He 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:34.280 his sister played college ball, his brother played college ball. Um, 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:38.240 his mother's deep in her faith. Um, the family was there. 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.239 They rallied, They made sure that it was a celebration 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.760 of his life, not a funeral. You know. They had 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:47.960 the band, which is traditional UM in New Orleans. I 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:50.120 forgot what they call it, half line, that's what they 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:52.040 call it. And they have the toolers and people were 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:54.640 playing when the Saints come marshal And and you know, 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:59.040 I think that he had maybe twenty different clergymen that 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.319 showed up, you know, because he was you know, he 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:04.880 was the guy. He was the guy that opened the 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:08.880 door for Tyrone Matthews, Leonard Fournette, UM, a lot of 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.600 the young guys that went to l s U. Even 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:14.360 a guy like Anthony Johnson, who's a defensive lignement here, 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:17.840 who's the Jets signed off of the Patriots practice squad. 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.480 He wants to l s U. Played in the defensive line. 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:24.920 He said, this guy was the dude down everybody wanted 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:26.960 to be like Joe. He was a guy that that 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.800 told the recruiters that hey, it's talent down here, something 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.880 brewing down here. And he opened the door for those guys. 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:35.360 You know. Tyrone Matthews said the same thing when when 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:37.720 I heard some of his remarks about Joe, that people 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:39.680 wanted in Louis I don't wanted to be like him. 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:41.760 You know, they weren't trying to be like anybody else. 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:43.560 They were trying to be like you know, Joe Munited. 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:46.400 And that's just a testament, you know, to him as 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.880 a football player, but him as a person too. Does 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:52.680 it get you mad? Uh? Not? That not just that 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.720 we lost somebody, because we're gonna talk about Conrad here 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:59.040 in a second, But the way it went down. We 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:01.000 don't have all the deep ells. And you probably have 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.040 a lot more than I do because you were just 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.200 down there and you've spoken to some people. It's just like, 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.599 no matter no matter what the circumstances is behind it, 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.480 we have to ask ourselves, what's the value of a 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.840 man's life? Is it worth? If it is a man's 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.480 life worth your pride being hurt because of an argument 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:20.120 or somebody saying something insulting to you or something derogatory, 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.240 is that? Is that? Is that polishable by death? Right? 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:26.559 Like I mean, we have more empathy with the rules 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.240 of engagement in war than we do for each other. 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.480 And we're supposed to be fellow Americans. We're supposed to 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:34.520 be better than that. We're supposed to be bigger than that, 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:36.679 because at the end of the day, if that that 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:41.560 man that that pulled the trigger had to could have 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:47.200 sat there and hurt the cry and the yell of 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.360 his son, It's eight year old son. I think he 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.800 would have thought twice before he pulled that trigger for something. 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:55.079 So my new, Um, you have to realize that when 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.760 you decide to pull the trigger, you decided to take 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.199 a man's life, that it has a ripple effect. Then 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.199 it just not affected his life in your life, but 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:05.920 affects the ones that he loves and effects the ones 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.120 that love you with How do you defend that? How 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:11.520 do you defend that? How do you justify that? I mean, 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:15.640 what's the value of a man's life? Yeah, it's a 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:20.600 cliche quick trigger, but it just seems unbelievable to me 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:25.000 that if this really stemmed from something on the road, 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:30.120 Uh you first time each other, you cannot connect any 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.880 dots and say this is an unresult. This is where 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:36.280 you get an unresult out of this? And then I 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:41.760 know most authorities, no doubt about it, Like in any 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:45.240 walk of life. I believe that you know, the enforcement 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.280 officials are going to try to help citizens, just like 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:52.960 in any walk of life. Uh that I believe most 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.440 people are good with that being said, it's tough. I 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.640 know it was tough those first few days with people 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:03.880 wondering this gut the y and also this guy was 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:05.480 on the streets for a couple of days. I know 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.200 the police chief down there got really upset and things 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.920 like that. But you know, in the fact that this 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:13.120 isn't his first incident, that he's supposed to had two 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:15.800 other incidents, you know, and the fact that you know, 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:19.400 we were so lenient with being able to give people 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.319 licenses and allow them to get guns, not knowing, you know, 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:25.920 truly what their mental capability is, and not knowing that 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.240 when you get somebody a gun, you give them power 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.319 to take a life. And you know, that's a powerful 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:35.600 responsibility and not everybody deserves that. And that's why I'm 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:39.680 not a fan of you know, carry carry states, because 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.600 what happens is you do something impulsive and heat at 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:46.400 a moment that you can't take back, and you act impulsively. 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.760 Because if he didn't have a gun, he would have 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:52.680 just probably or whatever the situation is, maybe insurance would 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:57.040 have been would have been exchanged, maybe a fisticuff, or 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.160 maybe somebody would have took somebody license plate down and 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.840 called the police on right. That's very that's relatively minor. 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:06.600 That's what that situation warranted, not somebody putting the gun 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.520 out and shoot somebody over a material thing when I'm 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.640 sure both of them had car instruments. Things could be 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:14.520 fixed and replaced. If you take a man of life, 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.560 you can't you can't give it back. Yeah, this is 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:20.280 not a political podcast. It's just upsetting for anybody, whether 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:22.679 you're a member of that or a or you're against 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:26.960 guns or anything like that. Just upsetting the violent crime 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:30.280 we have in an industrialized sized society like the United States, 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.240 when you look at the other numbers throughout the world. 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:34.800 And I'm not even trying to make it a racial 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.280 with him, because you look at Will Smith in the 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:41.240 same city losing his life because a guy got upset, 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.000 got a heated argument with him. Whether it was a 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:45.920 fender banner he pulled off or not. He had to 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.960 do was right down his license plate and and and 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.199 sure you would have got your you, you would have 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:54.839 got your justice. But you know, when you decide to 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:58.040 confront somebody and guns are pulled, you know, people lives 0:13:58.040 --> 0:13:59.600 were taken. And at the end of the day, and 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.480 then it's then and no thought was Will Smith like 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:04.560 worth taking no matter if he was wrong or not. 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:08.720 You know, it's not worth that. No a material car 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:12.960 or then on a car. Derogatory terms shouldn't be punishable 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:17.600 by death. Yeah, listen, our prayers, our thoughts are well. 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:23.600 Wishes are with the Joe McKnight's family. And and yeah, 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:28.120 and you mentioned Conrad, So um, just guy has a 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:32.120 late November out of nowhere from I haven't been following 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.080 too much. I know he played with the Ravens last year, 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:40.720 but yeah, but late November brain aneurism, and I guess 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:44.760 he struggled with that for weeks and he loses his 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.600 life nine years old? What do you what can you 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:49.600 tell us about Conrad sharing a locker room once? I 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.600 was always messed with him. I don't know really what 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.880 his nationality, looked like a surfer but but yeah, but 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.320 because his hair was like that, he had that that 0:14:56.320 --> 0:15:00.520 that blond that Rick Flair blind in hair. So I 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:02.920 always made fun of him, you know, checking him and 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.640 stuff in practice, talking trash. He wasn't watching a talker, 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:07.680 but it was fun. You know, he was a competitor, 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:09.640 you know, like I said, what makes you know? Being 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:13.520 teammates so special is when you're physically vulnerable and emotionally vulnerable, 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.000 you find out what people are made of it. He 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.360 was very prideful, you know. He was always trying to 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.840 make a play and you know, eventually started giving it back. 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:21.440 And it was fun, fun to be around because of 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:23.480 course we always want to get to each other in practice, 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:27.560 whether it was blocking or coverage, you know, and unfortunate man, 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:31.640 it's just it's just tough because his family, he overcame 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:35.440 so much, you know, great education at Stanford, come here 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:39.160 trying to you know, solidify his place in the NFL, 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:44.360 find a place to you know, call home, and battling. 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:46.360 And this is something that you can't see. This is 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:50.120 almost like somebody you know dying from a blood clocks. 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:53.000 It could happen to any of us, you know. He 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.440 just never would expect that. This guy's, like you said, 0:15:56.600 --> 0:16:03.000 six five to fifty. Guy looked like a model coming 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:06.320 out of the store. Actual, I always tell my do 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:09.800 my taxes because he's from Stafford. You know something, he's 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:12.080 too smart to play. What do you think about you did? 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.600 He just get he gets laster. People always take me 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:16.840 to Grain, so I they understand and you know, if 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:19.320 if I'm making funny, if I'm message that's because I 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.760 like you. I don't say nothing to you, don't acknowledge you. 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.320 Then then then you should be concerned. I mean, I 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:27.200 don't mess with you. You mentioned Mark Sanchez before. He's 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.520 just spent some time with Mark. How is Mark doing? 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.400 He went to Mission V a whole high school with 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:34.160 Conrad Bruin. He played here with They played basketball to 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.400 get they were on the same, you know, youth basketball team. 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.120 He went and saw him before he passed childhood friends. 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.000 And then I like you mentioned Joe McKnight was a 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.480 teammate of his, and and so how how it is 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.280 marked on him. He's taking it tough, you know. Um, 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:49.520 But he's recently just had his first child. So I'm 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:51.800 excited about that. And I told him welcome to fatherhood. 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:55.960 That's a special thing, um, And I know he's excited 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:59.240 about that. So that's a good thing. But it's tough 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.200 for him on a peron from the level because you know, 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:04.199 he had a far more intimate relationship with Conrad than 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:08.080 than than I had. UM, And it's just tough because 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.520 he's losing people that It always makes you face to 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:14.400 face with your your own immortality or your own mortality, 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:16.280 you know, knowing that you know, people think that they 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:19.080 see us on TV they were instructible, but you know, 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.760 the same things that we that happens to the general 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.480 public happens to us as well. Do you feel fortunate, though, 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:28.800 that you've established such a brotherhood with not just this 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:32.040 franchise here and and people who were your teammates and 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.280 things like that, but down in Baltimore, do you feel 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:38.120 fortunate that you have such tight bonds with people? Like 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:40.560 people are asking me the other day, They're like, oh, 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.640 I didn't realize part New Conrad, And I'm like, yeah, 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:47.000 they were teammates, but people don't realize the extent because 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:51.520 you're you really like to reach out to people. Yeah, 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:53.960 I mean I always always make it my business. I 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:56.880 mean I just did a financial literacy program at San 0:17:56.920 --> 0:18:00.119 Francisco for those guys. Got my phone numbers. They all 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.199 me and they're looking for advice because I represent what 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:06.560 they want to become, what they feel like they can accomplish. 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:08.919 You know, they were, you know, younger guys early in 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.119 their career trying to find their way. I walk that 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:14.200 path and maybe they can lean on me and figure 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.480 some things out, you know, and I look at it 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:19.840 as any time my my my path crosses with somebody 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:23.040 else's because God ordained it to happen. So I never 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:26.440 disrespect the process. And I'm always willing to be a 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.080 vessel to help. You know, if you're willing to help yourself, 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.520 I'm willing to help. And you know, that's just how 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:34.320 I was raised, That's how I've always been and by 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:36.200 that way to buy product of that as you get 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:39.840 some strong bonds and some strong relationships, you know, Jamale McClain, 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:45.560 uh Adelias Thomas, you know ed Reid um Edgar Jones, 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:50.000 you know Ray Rice, um T Sizzle. Of course, you 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:52.760 know these guys like that, I can call it in 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.399 the pinch, you know, it's it's not you know, it 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:57.680 just one of those things. You can go David Harris, Calvin, 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:01.719 the Brinkershaw, Ferguson, you can go Brandon more. These are 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:04.680 guys that you know, we still spend time with each other. 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:06.760 You know, a bunch of those guys just came at heartwell, 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:10.040 just came from Atlanta to my wife's birthday party. You know, 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.480 Brandon Moore was there as well. So you know, you 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:14.720 get support and you you get back what you what 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.600 you put out. And I think when people are around 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:22.119 me and they get past the barbado or the loud words, 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.960 they understand that's a genuine person behind there. And UM, 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.639 I'll do anything for a teammate and it's not you know, 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.200 if Conrad you know the same thing I just did 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:32.840 for Joe, and try to support and help as much 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.600 as I can if conrade family needs that right there 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:39.320 for him to Yeah. So again, prayers go out to 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:44.160 Joe's family and Conrad's family. Is they try to move on, 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:46.840 I don't think you're ever the same. We've We've lost 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:50.119 loved ones. Both of us have fed things that happened. 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:52.800 People close to us have gone, and I don't think 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:56.679 when you lose somebody, yep, And all we can do 0:19:56.880 --> 0:20:00.720 is try to remember and an honor honor their memory 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:02.879 with our life and the way we do. We choose 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:07.320 to live our life. That's well said. Um it feels 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:09.960 rather trivial, But I want to talk about the current 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:13.639 team real quick. Do you like the way uh the 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:16.400 Jets responded in San Francisco. I know it's a one 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:18.680 on eleven team. I know people at home are saying, 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:21.080 I mean you know, we want to draft pick all 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:22.840 this other stuff part. But they could have packed it 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:26.280 in a fourteen nothing because those first five minutes look 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:29.520 like here we go. It looked like an extension of 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:32.120 the Indianapolis Gamp. They didn't have to respond. They could 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:36.320 have blamed it on travel um, short week, you know, 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:39.240 tired legs from Monday night. Whatever they wanted to say, 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:41.600