1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: All right, the pot is under way here in Florhing Park. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Bart Scott has made his way back into the studio. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: We haven't talked on this platform in a couple of 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: weeks since then. Joe McKnight was gunned down in the 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: road rage the incident, and then earlier this week, Conrad 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: Ruling died following a brain aneurism. Uh, it's been a 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: tough year for our family. Dennis Burg earlier, Dennis Byrd, 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: Winston Hill, Curly Johnson, Carrie Blanchard Um and and the 9 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: list goes on. And you can talk about Buddy Ryan, 10 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: former Jets defensive assistant who was on we View Bank 11 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: staff as the Green and White captures the Super Bowl 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: Championship back in ninety following the sixty eight season January twelve, 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty nine, down at the Orange Bowl in Miami. 14 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: But I just hope we've done for a while. I hope, 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: I hope we just seems to be our year and 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: that's what we're done for the next years. Man. It's 17 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: it's been a tough, tough couple of weeks. You know, 18 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: it brings your faith to face with your immortality, because 19 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: at any point that could be any of us brain aneurhythm. 20 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: Really no predictor of how that happened, why it happened 21 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: Joe McKnight, tragic road rage incident, that could be any 22 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: of us. You know, it makes you really appreciate the day. 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate the ones you love, UM, put them a 24 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: little closer, tell him you love him, you know, because 25 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: you just never know. Man. I know it sounds cliche, 26 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: sounds like you know your parents, but it's just crazy 27 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: out here right now. Now you say it's crazy out 28 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: here right now with what happened to Joe, what was 29 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: your immediate reaction? And also we gotta get into that 30 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: you just got back from Louisiana. Now you stopped doing 31 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: something out on the West coast with your financial literacy program, 32 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: and we know that, but you were in Louisiana, so 33 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: you talked to Joe his family and you were there 34 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: as well everyone late Joe the Russ. I just wanted 35 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 1: to make sure that he had the proper representation as 36 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: a lot of his teammates or guys that he played 37 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: with are still playing in the league. You know. I 38 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: just want to make sure, you know, as one of 39 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: the leaders when I was here, that I continue to 40 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: be a leader all the way to the end to 41 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: was final resting place for my teammate. Um, so I 42 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: was able to you know me the Brickershaw Ferguson, Antonio Crimarti, 43 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: Willie Cologne who already believed played with Joe but but 44 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: showed his respects. And it was one of the Paul Bears, 45 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: Lyndale White Um and Mark Sanchez. Mark Um caught up 46 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: playing stayed after the Sunday night game with the Giant. 47 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: You know that just showed you what type of leader. 48 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: Not only was he his quarterback in college, he was 49 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: his quarterback in the pros as well. And that's what 50 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: it is. It's a brotherhood and you know so many 51 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: of its only a select few of us that's fortunate 52 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: enough to make it to this level. Um. And like 53 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: I said about comrade, you know, the beautiful thing about 54 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: being a teammate is that you have to leave yourself 55 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: completely vulnerable. And not a lot of people get to 56 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: see us totally vulnerable. You know, my mother has never 57 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: seen maybe my mother saw me vulnerable, My sisters never 58 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: saw me a vulnerable. A lot of my friends never 59 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: saw me a hundred percent vulnerable. But my teammates have 60 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: all saw me vulnerable. They saw me um uh emotionally vulnerable, 61 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: physically vulnerable, pushing through trying to mentally, you know, tell 62 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: the body to do with the body with the mind 63 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: is telling you they can't do. And your teammates are 64 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: the ones that that are they're that can help pull 65 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: you through. And because it's such a small fraternity, it's 66 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: only so many of us that can understand the pressure 67 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: of the stress and all the things that come along 68 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: with trying to achieve your dream. That's why we're so 69 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: heavily connected. That's why the bond is so strong. Because 70 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: what could be my new to other people, it's significant 71 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: to us. And if you try and explain it to 72 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: people that's not daring to be greater, trying to achieve 73 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: their dream, that childhood dream, they won't understand it. So 74 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: you don't try to explain it. But we can look 75 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: at each other and see how each other feeling. We 76 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: can kind of know what's going through each other's mind 77 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: because we've all been there at some particular time, you know, 78 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: in the best place. The greatest example of that his 79 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: training camp, because you stripped down mentally and physically, and 80 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: you know you have to lean on your guys when 81 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: you don't have it for them to bring something enough 82 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: for themselves and something for you too. With all that 83 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: being said, that Joe had this childlike exuberance to him 84 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: and within the building he seemed to always have a 85 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: smile on his face. He was very well liked by 86 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: his teammates. You just talked about how you were a 87 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: Paul Bear at his funeral. The pressures these guys and 88 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: you were part of the deal here, uh undergo each 89 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: and every day sometimes can be enormous, and don't you 90 00:04:55,400 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: think early in his career, Joe, on one hand, he 91 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: was so comfortable with being out of the spotlight, but 92 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: the spotlight he because of his pedigree. He was one 93 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: of the um most highly recruited number one player in 94 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: the high school in the country. And then he replaced 95 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: the legend at US Reggie Bush, and you know, come 96 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: here with the expectations replacing Leon Washington. Let Leon Washington 97 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: walked because you know, they brought him in. And you know, 98 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: early on, I think he struggled a little bit with 99 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: the expectations, as all young players do, trying to make 100 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: the adjudgment from the from the college ranks to the 101 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: pros is a tough situation, you know, and learning how 102 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: to take care of your body, learning how to be 103 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 1: a professional. But he was learning at all while balloting 104 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: depression from you know, uh Katrina. And you know he 105 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: was a young child, a young kid, I believe in 106 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: high school in Katrina happened in New Orleans and he 107 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: was displaced, and I think he was on the roof 108 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: for a long time, you know, and he was champion 109 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: everything that had God got in front of him. He 110 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: had he had beat even to still walking around with 111 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: a smile on his face. And you know, that's what 112 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna remember most. I'm gonna remember him coming over 113 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: my house, you know, rolling my side by side and 114 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: not telling me and me saying, man, asked my kids 115 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: what happened? Oh uncle Joe rolled over the road the 116 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: road to Canada over road in the side of the house, 117 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: you know. And you know him going with many bikes 118 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: and kind of hanging out, jumping in the pool with 119 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: his son Jaden, you know, his girlfriend at the time, Michelle, 120 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: coming over hanging my wife barbecuing. You know, he was 121 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: always there to be a help. You know. He's one 122 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: of those guys that if you're having something. He was 123 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: there early to help you set up, you know, always 124 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: consider that what you may need and and always trying 125 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: to do his part. Now you have so many relationships 126 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: within the National Football League, the media world, just your 127 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: everyday world of people that you will come in contact 128 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: with that you have tons of friends. How much have 129 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: you were able how much were you able to keep 130 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: up with you over the years, because obviously a different 131 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: stops along the way in his football career. The latest 132 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: stop was in the Canadian football and I knew he 133 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: was going to kind of we had communicated via social media. Um, 134 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: I was fully aware Joe was, you know, champion things, 135 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: and I was continued to try and be that mentor. 136 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: And you know that some things, when you have friends, 137 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: you have to let them process it themselves, you know. 138 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: I told him what he had to do, had to 139 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: be more of a professional who had to understand that, 140 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, he could get another opportunity, but he understood 141 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: at this time he was going to have to earn 142 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: it and it was gonna be harder than it was 143 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: the first time, because once you're out, it's harder to 144 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: get back in. But he was making all the necessary steps. 145 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: He was he had a tremendous year early on in 146 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: Kansas City before he blew us Achilles out and that 147 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: kind of set him back, you know, because he went 148 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: there to replace Dexter mc cluster, and um, he was 149 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: doing a great job. And he actually heard himself think 150 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: he was on a long run, which is unfortunate. Um, 151 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: but you know, always was in contact. And we have 152 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: another buddy that we used to go on vacations, Like 153 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: me and Joe weren't just like come over the house. 154 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: We went on vacations by ourselves together, just me and him, 155 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: you know, and the fellas and and and you know, 156 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: not just me and him and only football players there. 157 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: So it wasn't one of those relationships where we were 158 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: just here friends. We're friends like for real, like no 159 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: matter where he went, like, we're that friendship and that 160 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: Bob would never have been broken. Just Nation wants to know, 161 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: and you can tell us us right now. How is 162 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: his family doing? How are his love I mean, he 163 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: was a beacon of life for them, you know. He 164 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: his sister played college ball, his brother played college ball. Um, 165 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: his mother's deep in her faith. Um, the family was there. 166 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,239 Speaker 1: They rallied, They made sure that it was a celebration 167 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: of his life, not a funeral. You know. They had 168 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: the band, which is traditional UM in New Orleans. I 169 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: forgot what they call it, half line, that's what they 170 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: call it. And they have the toolers and people were 171 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: playing when the Saints come marshal And and you know, 172 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: I think that he had maybe twenty different clergymen that 173 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: showed up, you know, because he was you know, he 174 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: was the guy. He was the guy that opened the 175 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: door for Tyrone Matthews, Leonard Fournette, UM, a lot of 176 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: the young guys that went to l s U. Even 177 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: a guy like Anthony Johnson, who's a defensive lignement here, 178 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: who's the Jets signed off of the Patriots practice squad. 179 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: He wants to l s U. Played in the defensive line. 180 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: He said, this guy was the dude down everybody wanted 181 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: to be like Joe. He was a guy that that 182 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: told the recruiters that hey, it's talent down here, something 183 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: brewing down here. And he opened the door for those guys. 184 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: You know. Tyrone Matthews said the same thing when when 185 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: I heard some of his remarks about Joe, that people 186 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: wanted in Louis I don't wanted to be like him. 187 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: You know, they weren't trying to be like anybody else. 188 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: They were trying to be like you know, Joe Munited. 189 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: And that's just a testament, you know, to him as 190 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: a football player, but him as a person too. Does 191 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: it get you mad? Uh? Not? That not just that 192 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: we lost somebody, because we're gonna talk about Conrad here 193 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: in a second, But the way it went down. We 194 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: don't have all the deep ells. And you probably have 195 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: a lot more than I do because you were just 196 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: down there and you've spoken to some people. It's just like, 197 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,599 Speaker 1: no matter no matter what the circumstances is behind it, 198 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: we have to ask ourselves, what's the value of a 199 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: man's life? Is it worth? If it is a man's 200 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: life worth your pride being hurt because of an argument 201 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: or somebody saying something insulting to you or something derogatory, 202 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: is that? Is that? Is that polishable by death? Right? 203 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: Like I mean, we have more empathy with the rules 204 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: of engagement in war than we do for each other. 205 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: And we're supposed to be fellow Americans. We're supposed to 206 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: be better than that. We're supposed to be bigger than that, 207 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, if that that 208 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: man that that pulled the trigger had to could have 209 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: sat there and hurt the cry and the yell of 210 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: his son, It's eight year old son. I think he 211 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: would have thought twice before he pulled that trigger for something. 212 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: So my new, Um, you have to realize that when 213 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: you decide to pull the trigger, you decided to take 214 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: a man's life, that it has a ripple effect. Then 215 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: it just not affected his life in your life, but 216 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: affects the ones that he loves and effects the ones 217 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: that love you with How do you defend that? How 218 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: do you defend that? How do you justify that? I mean, 219 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: what's the value of a man's life? Yeah, it's a 220 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: cliche quick trigger, but it just seems unbelievable to me 221 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: that if this really stemmed from something on the road, 222 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: Uh you first time each other, you cannot connect any 223 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: dots and say this is an unresult. This is where 224 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: you get an unresult out of this? And then I 225 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: know most authorities, no doubt about it, Like in any 226 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: walk of life. I believe that you know, the enforcement 227 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: officials are going to try to help citizens, just like 228 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: in any walk of life. Uh that I believe most 229 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: people are good with that being said, it's tough. I 230 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: know it was tough those first few days with people 231 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: wondering this gut the y and also this guy was 232 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: on the streets for a couple of days. I know 233 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: the police chief down there got really upset and things 234 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: like that. But you know, in the fact that this 235 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: isn't his first incident, that he's supposed to had two 236 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: other incidents, you know, and the fact that you know, 237 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: we were so lenient with being able to give people 238 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: licenses and allow them to get guns, not knowing, you know, 239 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: truly what their mental capability is, and not knowing that 240 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: when you get somebody a gun, you give them power 241 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: to take a life. And you know, that's a powerful 242 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: responsibility and not everybody deserves that. And that's why I'm 243 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: not a fan of you know, carry carry states, because 244 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: what happens is you do something impulsive and heat at 245 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: a moment that you can't take back, and you act impulsively. 246 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: Because if he didn't have a gun, he would have 247 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: just probably or whatever the situation is, maybe insurance would 248 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: have been would have been exchanged, maybe a fisticuff, or 249 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: maybe somebody would have took somebody license plate down and 250 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: called the police on right. That's very that's relatively minor. 251 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: That's what that situation warranted, not somebody putting the gun 252 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: out and shoot somebody over a material thing when I'm 253 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: sure both of them had car instruments. Things could be 254 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: fixed and replaced. If you take a man of life, 255 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: you can't you can't give it back. Yeah, this is 256 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: not a political podcast. It's just upsetting for anybody, whether 257 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: you're a member of that or a or you're against 258 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: guns or anything like that. Just upsetting the violent crime 259 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: we have in an industrialized sized society like the United States, 260 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: when you look at the other numbers throughout the world. 261 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: And I'm not even trying to make it a racial 262 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: with him, because you look at Will Smith in the 263 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: same city losing his life because a guy got upset, 264 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: got a heated argument with him. Whether it was a 265 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: fender banner he pulled off or not. He had to 266 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: do was right down his license plate and and and 267 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: sure you would have got your you, you would have 268 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 1: got your justice. But you know, when you decide to 269 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: confront somebody and guns are pulled, you know, people lives 270 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: were taken. And at the end of the day, and 271 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: then it's then and no thought was Will Smith like 272 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: worth taking no matter if he was wrong or not. 273 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's not worth that. No a material car 274 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: or then on a car. Derogatory terms shouldn't be punishable 275 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: by death. Yeah, listen, our prayers, our thoughts are well. 276 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: Wishes are with the Joe McKnight's family. And and yeah, 277 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: and you mentioned Conrad, So um, just guy has a 278 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: late November out of nowhere from I haven't been following 279 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: too much. I know he played with the Ravens last year, 280 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: but yeah, but late November brain aneurism, and I guess 281 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: he struggled with that for weeks and he loses his 282 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: life nine years old? What do you what can you 283 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: tell us about Conrad sharing a locker room once? I 284 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: was always messed with him. I don't know really what 285 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: his nationality, looked like a surfer but but yeah, but 286 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: because his hair was like that, he had that that 287 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: that blond that Rick Flair blind in hair. So I 288 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: always made fun of him, you know, checking him and 289 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: stuff in practice, talking trash. He wasn't watching a talker, 290 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: but it was fun. You know, he was a competitor, 291 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: you know, like I said, what makes you know? Being 292 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: teammates so special is when you're physically vulnerable and emotionally vulnerable, 293 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: you find out what people are made of it. He 294 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: was very prideful, you know. He was always trying to 295 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: make a play and you know, eventually started giving it back. 296 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: And it was fun, fun to be around because of 297 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: course we always want to get to each other in practice, 298 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: whether it was blocking or coverage, you know, and unfortunate man, 299 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: it's just it's just tough because his family, he overcame 300 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: so much, you know, great education at Stanford, come here 301 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: trying to you know, solidify his place in the NFL, 302 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: find a place to you know, call home, and battling. 303 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: And this is something that you can't see. This is 304 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: almost like somebody you know dying from a blood clocks. 305 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: It could happen to any of us, you know. He 306 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: just never would expect that. This guy's, like you said, 307 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: six five to fifty. Guy looked like a model coming 308 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: out of the store. Actual, I always tell my do 309 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: my taxes because he's from Stafford. You know something, he's 310 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: too smart to play. What do you think about you did? 311 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: He just get he gets laster. People always take me 312 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: to Grain, so I they understand and you know, if 313 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: if I'm making funny, if I'm message that's because I 314 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: like you. I don't say nothing to you, don't acknowledge you. 315 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: Then then then you should be concerned. I mean, I 316 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: don't mess with you. You mentioned Mark Sanchez before. He's 317 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: just spent some time with Mark. How is Mark doing? 318 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: He went to Mission V a whole high school with 319 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: Conrad Bruin. He played here with They played basketball to 320 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: get they were on the same, you know, youth basketball team. 321 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: He went and saw him before he passed childhood friends. 322 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: And then I like you mentioned Joe McKnight was a 323 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: teammate of his, and and so how how it is 324 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: marked on him. He's taking it tough, you know. Um, 325 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: But he's recently just had his first child. So I'm 326 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: excited about that. And I told him welcome to fatherhood. 327 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: That's a special thing, um, And I know he's excited 328 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: about that. So that's a good thing. But it's tough 329 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: for him on a peron from the level because you know, 330 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: he had a far more intimate relationship with Conrad than 331 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: than than I had. UM, And it's just tough because 332 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: he's losing people that It always makes you face to 333 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: face with your your own immortality or your own mortality, 334 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: you know, knowing that you know, people think that they 335 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: see us on TV they were instructible, but you know, 336 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: the same things that we that happens to the general 337 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: public happens to us as well. Do you feel fortunate, though, 338 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: that you've established such a brotherhood with not just this 339 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: franchise here and and people who were your teammates and 340 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: things like that, but down in Baltimore, do you feel 341 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: fortunate that you have such tight bonds with people? Like 342 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: people are asking me the other day, They're like, oh, 343 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: I didn't realize part New Conrad, And I'm like, yeah, 344 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: they were teammates, but people don't realize the extent because 345 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: you're you really like to reach out to people. Yeah, 346 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: I mean I always always make it my business. I 347 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: mean I just did a financial literacy program at San 348 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: Francisco for those guys. Got my phone numbers. They all 349 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: me and they're looking for advice because I represent what 350 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: they want to become, what they feel like they can accomplish. 351 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: You know, they were, you know, younger guys early in 352 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: their career trying to find their way. I walk that 353 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: path and maybe they can lean on me and figure 354 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: some things out, you know, and I look at it 355 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: as any time my my my path crosses with somebody 356 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: else's because God ordained it to happen. So I never 357 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: disrespect the process. And I'm always willing to be a 358 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: vessel to help. You know, if you're willing to help yourself, 359 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: I'm willing to help. And you know, that's just how 360 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: I was raised, That's how I've always been and by 361 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: that way to buy product of that as you get 362 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: some strong bonds and some strong relationships, you know, Jamale McClain, 363 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: uh Adelias Thomas, you know ed Reid um Edgar Jones, 364 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: you know Ray Rice, um T Sizzle. Of course, you 365 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: know these guys like that, I can call it in 366 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: the pinch, you know, it's it's not you know, it 367 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: just one of those things. You can go David Harris, Calvin, 368 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 1: the Brinkershaw, Ferguson, you can go Brandon more. These are 369 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: guys that you know, we still spend time with each other. 370 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: You know, a bunch of those guys just came at heartwell, 371 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: just came from Atlanta to my wife's birthday party. You know, 372 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: Brandon Moore was there as well. So you know, you 373 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: get support and you you get back what you what 374 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: you put out. And I think when people are around 375 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: me and they get past the barbado or the loud words, 376 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: they understand that's a genuine person behind there. And UM, 377 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: I'll do anything for a teammate and it's not you know, 378 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: if Conrad you know the same thing I just did 379 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: for Joe, and try to support and help as much 380 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: as I can if conrade family needs that right there 381 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: for him to Yeah. So again, prayers go out to 382 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: Joe's family and Conrad's family. Is they try to move on, 383 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: I don't think you're ever the same. We've We've lost 384 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: loved ones. Both of us have fed things that happened. 385 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: People close to us have gone, and I don't think 386 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: when you lose somebody, yep, And all we can do 387 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: is try to remember and an honor honor their memory 388 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: with our life and the way we do. We choose 389 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: to live our life. That's well said. Um it feels 390 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: rather trivial, But I want to talk about the current 391 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: team real quick. Do you like the way uh the 392 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: Jets responded in San Francisco. I know it's a one 393 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: on eleven team. I know people at home are saying, 394 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean you know, we want to draft pick all 395 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: this other stuff part. But they could have packed it 396 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: in a fourteen nothing because those first five minutes look 397 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: like here we go. It looked like an extension of 398 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Gamp. They didn't have to respond. They could 399 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: have blamed it on travel um, short week, you know, 400 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: tired legs from Monday night. Whatever they wanted to say, 401 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: you know, but they decided to say, you know what, 402 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna we can do something about it. Let's do it, 403 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,959 Speaker 1: and it's gonna start one play at a time. And 404 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: I've been part of a six and ten, you know, 405 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: Ravens team. The next year we were we were thirteen 406 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: and three. Because you know, we learned something about some 407 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: people that we didn't expect. You don't really know how 408 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: players gonna respond or react until you put him in 409 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: the pressure and you put them out there and you say, hey, 410 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: you know, some guys practiced like crap, like man, this 411 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: guy can't play. You put him on there. The lights 412 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: turn on and they get bigger, they play bigger. Some 413 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: guys get in front of the lights and they play smaller, 414 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: you know, and that this is how you find out 415 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: who's gonna dare to be great. Who can I count 416 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: on because anybody can be a front runner and play 417 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: and hustle when when it's something on the line, But 418 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: when you really have nothing to play for, but playing 419 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: for pride and respect for the name on the back 420 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: of the jersey and the name in the front of 421 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: the jersey, you find out a lot about people. What 422 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: can you say about two nine? He's a fan favorite. 423 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: He was one of your teammates. Guy has been here. 424 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: I think this is a sixth season already, which is amazing. 425 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: He'll be almost a seven because I've been retiring four 426 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: years and he was here two years. Yeah, there's probably 427 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: a six going on the seventh. You know, he's starting 428 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: to look like the film that I saw in Louisville. 429 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: You know Louisville, he played a lot faster than he 430 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: played his first couple of years, I think because he 431 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: was trying to figure it out. But I think now 432 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: he's confident in what he's doing. Confident is a billy 433 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: of these and you see him playing so much faster 434 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: and making plays. He's always been tremendous and and and 435 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: being a past protectors, which is as a tough job 436 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: that nobody wants to do and nobody does in college anymore, 437 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: which is skill said that a lot of people don't 438 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: sign up for, but he does it. He's a he's 439 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: not just a willing. He's a great you know, um 440 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: um blitch pickup guy, you know, Chipper, and he makes 441 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: he makes big plays. He makes big plays. And we've 442 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: had a couple of guys like that. They come in 443 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: and spots and make big players, whether it's Leon Washington 444 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: rathers Brad you know, Brad Smith, Rother was Joe McKnight. 445 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: We had guys that come in like that. And he's 446 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: moving into that round where he comes in and he 447 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: leaves an imprint in the game no matter how many 448 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: plays he gets underrated explosion guy everage is more than 449 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: five yards per carry. And also he's got forty two receptions, 450 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: so that means he's the third leading receiver on this team, 451 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: fifth amongst running backs in the a f C in 452 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: terms of receptions. So it just seems to me anytime 453 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: you get Balpa football, good things are gonna happen. Hocky. 454 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: He's not a self promotor, you know. Then that's why 455 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: because he doesn't bang his on That's what I wanted 456 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: to ask you is that you love him as a teammate. 457 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: He is just like, hey, whenever they call my number, 458 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: I just want to be ready for my guys. He's 459 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: quiet man. He steps up, he walks quiet, but he 460 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: cares a big stay. What do you think about Petty? 461 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: For Petty makes his second career start against San Francisco. 462 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: He has his ups and downs. Jets Uh couldn't manufacture 463 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: too much offense early, but when the game's on the line, 464 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: he makes a few plays and they went to boating 465 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: teachable moments and that's all I can say. You look 466 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: at the family who at teachable moments. He wasn't reluctant 467 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: to pull the trigger. That was a good thing. Could 468 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: be a bad thing, but in the sense it was 469 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: a good thing because he made plays. I love his 470 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: toughness on the two point conversion play, running through a tackle, 471 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: not being denied, run through a pretty good defender, and 472 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: also you know, doing whatever he had to do to 473 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: get in zone to get the points. Um, are you 474 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: encouraged by what you're seeing some of these young guys 475 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: Austin Severian Jenkins. We did a film breakdown on him 476 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: today and that will be up on New York just 477 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: dot Com throughout the week, so you can check that 478 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: out here. Here's here's a big tight on Robby Anderson 479 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: continues to thrive. He's probably Petty's number one target right now. 480 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: Yards reception against San Francisco. Guy like Brandon Shell might 481 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: stop in and play right tackle Brno Jackoman. He's on 482 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: I R. Brent quality. One down. You might see a 483 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: guy who's your fifth round pick, Brandon Shell start this 484 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: week on the other side of the ball. Um Todd 485 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: bol said this week that he thought Darrenly was a 486 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: little too hype early in the game. He took took 487 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: him out of the game and put him back in 488 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: and he said, hey, listen, you're gonna learn from it. 489 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: Jordan Jenkins, a ricky outside linebacker from UH Georgia, came 490 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: up with this first career half sack. He made some 491 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: plays out there. Um, you're seeing him set the edge more. 492 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: He's having some teachable moments out there. I'm not saying 493 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: it's all perfect, but we all do. Is not about that. See, 494 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: a veteran is a veteran nine because he hasn't made 495 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: the mistakes. He's a veteran because he's made all the 496 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: mistakes and he's learned from him, and you can get 497 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: those mistakes and practice, you can get him in the game. 498 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: But as long as you learn from it and promise 499 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: that yourself that you're not gonna make the same mistakes, 500 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna have growth. And I'm really excited to see 501 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: um Justin Burrs again this week because he played well 502 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: against the forty nine or fourth round pick out. I 503 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: see state was used primarily on special teams earlier this year. 504 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: Big physical, stout guy. That's not what you know. That's 505 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: not why you usually see how the cornerbacks first coming out. 506 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: But he's got a nice billing on him. I like 507 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: the way place you can tell you what Singletary told 508 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: me a long time ago. Greatness comes in every shape 509 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: and size for every hall of fame, and is tall 510 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: and physical specimen, so you're equally small one. I really 511 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: want to talk about Sam Mills, Singletary, You want to 512 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: talk about gods like that, Barry Sanders, guys that wasn't prototypical. 513 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: I can show you a big Jim Brown, O j Simpsons. 514 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: Greatness comes in every shape and size. And finally, last time, 515 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: Matt Moore made a start at My Life Stadium against 516 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: the Jets was two thousand and eleven. You were on 517 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: that team, six win. You shut him down. Uh. Darrell 518 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: Reeves had two interceptions, including a hundred yard returned for 519 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: a touchdown, and on that play, Old number fifty seven 520 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: was actually rushing the passer passes slash tighten, slash whatever. 521 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: And then after Darrell made the interception, he was in 522 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: coverage on Brandon Marshall there ironically, UH number five seven 523 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: went looking for whom Richie incognito arch nemesis, trying to 524 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: find him wherever he is. The Rams are trying to 525 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: find him, Buffalo trying to find him. Yeah, somebody's got 526 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: guys and just rubbed their own way. I respect him 527 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: as a football player, didn't respect some of the things 528 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: that he did. Since now his second chance, I've seeing 529 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: that he's matured a lot, So maybe I give him 530 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: a second chance. I won't swing on one, but he's here. 531 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: Were there any other guys other than Richie that you 532 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: can considered your archonomsis? Because high Ward everybody knew him, 533 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: man high Ward. That was really the two, right, Those 534 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: are the two I had pointing peace with playing people. 535 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: But those two were definitely going on. But that's part Scott. 536 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: We're out