1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to Katie's Crib, a production of Shonda Land Audio 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: in partnership with I Heart Radio. Here's why it's so 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: hard to find a part time nanny. If you have 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: a nanny at you know, thirty dollars an hour for 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: ten hours a week, that's three dollars after taxes, it's 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: a hundred and eighty dollars a week. Nobody can live 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: off of that. Gas prices are outrageous and so is rent. 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: You're stopping a nanny from getting a morning job or 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: a night job. You do have to be a unified 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: force with the childcare expert. Let's put it to that 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: support staff that is going to help you think that 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: process all the way out. And that's a nanny that's 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: a team player. Let's make them feel great about who 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: they are and what they have to give. And then 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: let's work together and weave this this eternal piece of 16 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: connection that will help my child be something to give 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:01:07,639 Speaker 1: something positive back to the universe. Hello everybody, and welcome 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: back to Katie's Cript. Today's topic is something that I 19 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: literally get asked about on the daily regular nanny's. I 20 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 1: get texts all the time with things like a friend 21 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: of a friend is looking for a nanny. I need 22 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: part time, full time a few hours. Do you have 23 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: any leads, do you know someone, or texts like my 24 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: nanny just got sick. Finding childcare is one of the 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: biggest pieces of the puzzle that you will face as 26 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: a mother. And that's regardless of whether you intend to 27 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: be a mother who is going back to work or 28 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: who is working part time or full time, or a 29 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: mom that would like to just have breaks from their child, 30 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: to have some sort of life outside of the household, 31 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,639 Speaker 1: and for a myriad of other different reasons. Obviously people 32 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: do daycare, and also obviously we've done episodes of Katie's 33 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: Crib before where we've had, you know, a newborn care 34 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: specialist come on. But for today's topic specifically, we are 35 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: actually talking about nanny's for older children, you know, not 36 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: nanny's for newborns, but nanny's for infants, toddlers and up. 37 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: What we have for you all today is a two parter. 38 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: Half of today's episode is advice from a nanny agency expert, 39 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: and the other half of today's episode is advice from 40 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: a current nanny. I'm first chatting with Ryan Jordan, who's 41 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: the founder and CEO of Educated Nanny's. Educated Nannie's is 42 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: an agency that uses a personalized process to place elite 43 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: nanny's in homes within the Los Angeles area. Ryan's going 44 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: to talk to us all about how to find the 45 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: right nanny for your child. After Ryan, I then talked 46 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 1: to Nanny Connie. Nanny Connie the one and only. She's 47 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: a childcare professional. She's Hollywood's go to nanny. She has 48 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: thirty plus years of experience. She's helped celebrity parents like 49 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: Jessica Bille and John Krasinski. She's going to be talking 50 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: with us about how parents and nanny's can work together 51 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: in raising children. She's even going to give us some 52 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: quick parenting tips along the way. With that, let's get 53 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: started with our first guest. I have a dear friend 54 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: on who our kids know each other. They were in 55 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: the same soccer group. We have a close, close, mutual 56 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: friend by the name of Talia Moore who has been 57 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: on the Katie's Crib multiple times for postpartum depression work 58 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: and also for a pediatric nutrition um. Her name is 59 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: Ryan Jordan's and she is the founder and CEO of 60 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: Educated Nanny's in Los Angeles, a nationwide staffing agency that 61 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:33,119 Speaker 1: places household employees. She's the creator of the Educated Mama podcast, 62 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: which I had the absolute pleasure of being a guest on. 63 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: Ryan has over twenty five years of experience working with 64 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: children and families as a childcare educator, consultant, teacher, nanny, 65 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: and tutor. She is the proud mother to two glorious children, 66 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: her seven year old son and her five year old daughter. 67 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: Welcome after all of this to Katie's scrab Brian Jordan's Yes, Katie, 68 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be with you. I'm so happy 69 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: to have you here. How and why did you start 70 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: this business? Yeah, that's a great question, and it's it's 71 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: funny because it's not something I ever would imagined I 72 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: would be doing, right, I was like most people that 73 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: moved here from another state, and it was going to 74 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: be an actress or do something in that field. I 75 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: didn't know that. Ah, yes, Katie. I tend not to 76 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: share that portion with my successful friends, you know, oh, police, police, No, 77 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: but yeah, years ago, years ago. So you came off 78 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: of every plane, train and boat to Los Angeles with 79 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,559 Speaker 1: dreams and being in Hollywood, which is why everyone comes 80 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: to l A. And your life takes whatever turns to 81 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: get you too, starting educated nanny's How did that happen? Yes, 82 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: So I started nanny for this little boy named baby Jake, 83 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: and it changed my life. And I knew it wasn't 84 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: I need to be a mom yet, but I had 85 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: so much joy being with kids. So I would go 86 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: on auditions and then I would nanny for a family. 87 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: She was a writer, and I fell in love with 88 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: her son, and then you know, we all have those 89 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: moments in our life where we have that big paradigm shift. Well, 90 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: mine was in two thousand nine my dad passed away 91 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: from an aneurism and at that moment it was super pivotal. 92 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: I was thirty one years old, I wasn't married yet, 93 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: I was dating Katie. I mean, it was it was awful. 94 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: It was awful, and he was my best friend. And 95 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: when he died, you know, I you know how you 96 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: kind of live out your parents dreams for a while 97 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: and you get kind of in that mode, like, you know, 98 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: I'm going to be an actress. And my dad and 99 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: I had this thing where he was so funny and 100 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: we do like little things together, and he loved the 101 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: entertainment world and he didn't work in it, but he 102 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: should have. You know. We had fun like that. And 103 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: then when he died, I thought what can I do 104 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: to make a difference in this world? And where what 105 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: is my purpose? And I had a full on paradigm shift. 106 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: I dropped everything. I quit acting like cold turkey. Literally, 107 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm done, that's it. And I went 108 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: to Pepperdine and got my master's degree in education and 109 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: I started tutoring. And one of the families that I 110 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,559 Speaker 1: tutored with they joked around, oh, you're the educated nanny 111 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: because I had my master's degree in education and I 112 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: had my teaching credential. So I started teaching school and 113 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: it was like a huge shift. Wow, how amazing. And 114 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: then that was it. That was the inspiration of it. 115 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: And finally I just remember this day. It was in 116 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: February of two thousand thirteen, so now this is four 117 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: years later. I had nannied. I had been a you know, 118 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: a school teacher for first grade, in fourth grade and 119 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: second grade and summer school special at I did and 120 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: literally one of the families um that knew me, asked 121 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: me to come back and be there nanny. And I 122 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: left my teaching job and said, you know what, I 123 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: want to have a family one day. What can I 124 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: do that I can have freedom and flexibility? Hi? I 125 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: left that now being a business owner of freedom and flexibility. 126 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: All right, um, what can I do? And I just 127 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: the children always inspired me. And I love moms, I 128 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: especially love new moms. So I thought, you know what, 129 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: let me start my agency. So three months later I 130 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: started my agency and I've never looked back. And I 131 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: swear this is my skill set. All the improv classes 132 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: I took, I can talk to anybody, all of the 133 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: child development courses. Yeah, this is the culmination of so 134 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: many things that you're great at coming together in service 135 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: of other people. Because you know, you and I share 136 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: this same thing, which was we were both nanny's. I 137 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: was a nannie also for a long time, you were 138 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: a nannye um, I now employ a nanny and other 139 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: childcare backup nanny's. You employ um not only personally childcare, 140 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: but also and you have in your life, but also 141 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: now you run an agency where you're literally placing nanny's 142 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: with families. It is the strangest thing that they are 143 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: a paid family member. I mean, I can't even begin 144 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: to tell you the stories when I was a nanny 145 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: of the inside, behind closed doors things I've saw of 146 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: people's families, how you're loved and trusted with the most 147 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: prized possession, that is the most important thing to your being. 148 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: And at the same time you're an employee. It's freaking weird. 149 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: It's so it is such a fine line boundary because 150 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: I joked around that my nanny was my work wife. 151 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: Your nanny knows so much information and sees so many things, 152 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: and you know, it's such a personal professional fine line. 153 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: It's an interesting and delicate dance, and most nanni's know 154 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: how to do that dance. But I mean it's a lot. 155 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: You come home and you know so much information about 156 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: all of the members of that family, and you're so 157 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: emotionally connected to the family, but yet not yep. Right, 158 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: So we're gonna get into that boundary and discussion in 159 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: a little bit. But, um, when do you think it 160 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: is time for people who are listening, who are thinking 161 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: about possibly hiring a nanny. When do you think it's 162 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: time to make that sort of a decision. That is 163 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: an excellent question because I can tell you nine out 164 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: of ten times the person has called me too late. 165 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: I agree with you, and was hoping that that was 166 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: your answer. Yes, Yes, it's a planet call that I 167 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: get nine out of ten times. I need a nanny, 168 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: A S A P. I need a nanny like yesterday, 169 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: and I'm like, listen, background checks take three business days. 170 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,479 Speaker 1: We need to hear from references, and half the references 171 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: we talked to our high profile entertainment families that are 172 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, in Belize, and they're not going to get 173 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: back to us for two weeks, and we have to 174 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: do our due diligence, not even to mention the personal fit, 175 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: yes exactly. And trial What am I looking for in 176 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: this person? And I want to talk about trial days too, Okay, 177 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: So I think first and foremost for people listening, if 178 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: you feel in your gut like you're underwater and you 179 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: need help and things are really hard, and you've looked 180 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: at your finances and you're thinking you could afford something, 181 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: you should at least start the process of really looking 182 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: into it. Because you're right, I think people turn to 183 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: it way too late, just way too late. Why do 184 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: you what do you think for people listening? What is 185 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: the difference between a personal nanny and daycare? So for me, 186 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: a daycare is somewhere where you drop your child for 187 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: the day and they have you know, a classroom where 188 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: it's multiple pot teachers and multiple child care providers and 189 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: their socialization and so that's a great option for some 190 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: families and other options. You know, having a personal nanny 191 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: comes with all of those other benefits when you don't 192 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: have to leave your home during COVID, A lot of 193 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: people made that choice because you felt more protected and safe. Um, 194 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, I always tell people, if you can't afford 195 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: to hire a nanny, why wouldn't you. They help with 196 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: children's laundry, They help prepare meals, you know, when I 197 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: come in the door from work, you know, knowing that 198 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: all of those things have been helped with during my 199 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: weak means I get to have that quality time with 200 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: my child where when a nanny's at daycare and if 201 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: you're working, when you're coming home and still doing all 202 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: of those things. So I think they're both great options. 203 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: But I always advise people that if you can afford 204 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: to hire a nanny, why not why not get those 205 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: extra things done and have a great role model for 206 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: your child on the moments you can't be there. I 207 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: always hire an extension of myself. I think to myself, 208 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: what are my weaknesses, what are my shanks? Is this 209 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: personality like me? And then I'm just comfortable and confident 210 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: that if I leave, I know there's backup. And also 211 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: to like, if my child is sick. Prior to the pandemic, 212 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: most nanny has had no problem doing sickcare. You can't 213 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: drop a sick cut child off at daycare or school 214 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: or anywhere else. I was just going to say the 215 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: biggest difference too, Okay, So if we were going to 216 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: make a sweeping generalization, daycarees are usually way less expensive 217 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: than a personal, full time nanny. So there's that to 218 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: look at. That's a b um. If you work strange 219 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: hours like I do that aren't consistent, a personal nanny 220 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: is the only choice really because most daycare is close 221 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: at a certain time, and if I'm on set till 222 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: ten eleven PM, that's not a possibility. For example, my 223 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: brother and his daughter is at a traditional daycare and 224 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: the hours are, like you know, they're long, they're eight 225 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: to five and it's amazing, But sometimes I have to 226 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: be a work at four am and I don't get 227 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: home until a PM. So like that would never be 228 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: a setup for me, and then you were saying, which 229 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 1: is right, there's amazing benefits to daycare. I've dropped my 230 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: niece off multiple times. I've picked her up multiple times. 231 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's so um socialized, and everything is incredibly 232 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: clean and organized. And I was actually so blown away. 233 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: And for those who are listening where daycare is the 234 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: affordable option for you, this podcast is in no way 235 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: shape form um thinking that that is a bad choice, 236 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 1: because it is not. It's amazing. My brother could not 237 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: be happier, and honestly, I should do a whole episode 238 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: with him on Days Thrilled. However, one of the things 239 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: that was interesting that I was babysitting my niece for 240 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: five days when they went away and she had a 241 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: fever of a hundred and they called me and I 242 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: had to pick her ass up, and I was like, 243 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: oh my god. Because a lot of daycares have strict 244 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: policies where if there's any chi running a fever, they 245 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: have to be picked up immediately. If there's been two 246 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: diarrhea poops in one day, you have to pick the 247 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: kid up. And so if you have a personal nanny 248 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: most of the time, especially pre COVID, but even like 249 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: my nanny now, even in COVID, if my kid has 250 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: a cold or my kid has a diarrhea, she's coming anyway, 251 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: And like, thank god because I can't call in sick 252 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: to work. So those are just laying out some of 253 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: the differences. Um, but I like what you said about 254 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: you think of a personal nanny as an extension of 255 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: yourself and your parenting. What are his or her strengths 256 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: or weaknesses versus your strengths and weaknesses. Since this is 257 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: the village that is raising your can you take me 258 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: through if someone was going to hire educated nanni's what 259 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: does the process look like? Um, to start with a 260 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: nanny agency and the fees and like all that. Yeah, 261 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: so I can give you a generalized look at that 262 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: as specific looks. So so just so everyone that's listening. So, 263 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: placement agencies are nationwide, and most agencies start with some 264 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: type of registration fee. Why, there's a lot of work 265 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: that goes into it upfront, such as drafting the job description. 266 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: Our agency specifically did home visits prior to the pandemic, 267 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: so I drove to every single client's home I met 268 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: with them. It's a very much personalized experience. Now, I 269 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: do Zoom consultations for thirty to forty five minutes with 270 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: every client, and our registration fee is five hundred dollars. 271 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: Some agencies charged two hundred to five hundred dollars. You know, 272 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: our agency specifically applies that to the placement fee. I 273 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: feel like that's a deposit and that's just an agreement 274 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: that we are teaming up to move forward. And then 275 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: once you hire a nanny, you know, fees are anywhere 276 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: from fifteen to ours is eighteen and and that's the 277 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: placement fee. It's a one time fee. It's a luxury. 278 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: It can range anywhere from eight thousand up to twenty 279 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. But that's you know, most nannies are growing 280 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: with families for the next two, three or four years. 281 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: And I and I how people to always think of 282 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: this as you know, this is an investment in your 283 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: child's future and your future as well, your career or 284 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: your sanity. So I don't know if you can put 285 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: a price tag on that, but I mean support is support, Yes, 286 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: support is support. I mean, honestly, you know, our nanny 287 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: has been with us since Albi was eight weeks old, 288 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: and I went back to scandal, and we are her 289 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: final family. You know, she's sixty seven. She's telling me 290 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: she's taking me to the end, which means that I'm 291 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: taking her to the end of her career. So like 292 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, she's had many families before me. But she 293 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: is going to get my kids to the place where 294 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: they're in school, you know, full time. So she's got 295 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: another two three years with Vera. But like you said, 296 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: like that's putting a deposit down on a relationship where 297 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: she's been will have been a full time employee of 298 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: mine for like eight to possibly tend if we do 299 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: part time after that ten years. So Katie, I will say, 300 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: though that is a rarity. Though I want to I 301 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: want to be clear. Oh good nanny. You know it's 302 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: a rarity, Katie. Most nanny's in l a nanny they're 303 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: very It's transient city. So think about that. Most people 304 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: come into this city for a purpose and they leave 305 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 1: with a passion. I always say that, or they leave 306 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: because of COVID, you know. And so most nanny's are 307 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: at homes for two to three years, sometimes five, sometimes six. 308 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: A lot of nanny's want to grow with a family. 309 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: But we also have families that just up and left 310 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: and we're like, hey, we can't live here anymore. So 311 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,479 Speaker 1: the rules that were prior to the pandemic are very 312 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: different than their rules now. But if you have a 313 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: nanny that wants to grow with your family and she 314 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: is saying that you know you're my final family, I mean, 315 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: hold onto her like you've never held on. What a 316 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: beautiful relationship. I mean for those listening, it's crazy. I 317 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: hold onto her no matter what. She's got the best 318 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: job in the history of the world. If you asked me, um, 319 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: do you charge like when you work with an agency? 320 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: Is it the nanny's get paid hourly the same if 321 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: it's one kid, two kids? Like is that a given? Yes? 322 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: So the nanny has set their own rates, and most 323 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: nanny's will have one rate no matter the amount of children, 324 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: when it's one or two, when we get up to 325 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: three or four, so the rates could be anywhere from 326 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: thirty dollars an hour up to forty an hour. Growth 327 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: nanny's are all w two employees of a household. They 328 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: all have to be paid on payroll, They have to 329 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: be paid over time, they have to be paid sick time. 330 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: These are all different laws in California, other states, m 331 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: any states that have passed the domestic rights. So I 332 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: think there's nine of them now, yeah, that have passed 333 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: the domestic rates eight or nine? Um. And you know 334 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: this person is an employee of your household, so they 335 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: have to be paid legally. Yep, everything in my households 336 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: above board. Yes, thank gosh. You know. My goal when 337 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: I talk to people is to educate them on that. Yeah, people, 338 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: I get so many questions. Not only do I get 339 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: like this, why I'm so excited that you're on Not 340 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: only does the number one text I get from most 341 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: moms like do you have a nanny? Is any nanny looking? 342 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: Can your nanny ask? If there's any nannies who need 343 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: a job. The other one I get asked is what 344 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: is the difference between full time part time? Am I 345 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: supposed to paid sick days? How many? What are vacation days? 346 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: How many? Should we sign a contract or not? Can 347 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: you tell us those logisticals? This is great, This is 348 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: my favorite part of it. So absolutely sign a contract. 349 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: Who wants to be in a broken agreement? Think about this. 350 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: You're entering an agreement with a person that means you 351 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: want everything mapped out in that contract. What are the 352 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: grounds of termination? What are the paid vacation days, paid 353 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: sick time, paid holidays? What are the travel rates? What 354 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: are you gonna do if you're nanny calls and sick? 355 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: How much notice do they need to get? Is there 356 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: going to be a severance package if somebody leaves. It's 357 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: very important to map this out because the biggest relationship 358 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: blenders that I see are like six months in when 359 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: someone decides to take that vacation and nobody discussed anything, 360 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: and then it's the awkward conversation and people feel on 361 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: edge talking about these things. So what I always advise 362 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: is get everything on paper upfront, know what relationship you're entering, 363 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: so that you can just focus on caring for the 364 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: kids and you can focus on advising your employee and 365 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: go from there. Right, so let's talk about certain things. 366 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna map this out for Los Angeles just because 367 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: we happen to be in Los Angeles. But l A 368 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: county is you must offer forty eight hours of paid 369 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: sick time. That does not mean two days, It means 370 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: forty eight hours. So if somebody works in an eight 371 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: hour day, typically that equates to six days, Right, you 372 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: don't have to offer paid vacation. However, I've never seen 373 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: anyone that hasn't. Most full time, which is forty hours 374 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: a week. We consider anything less than forty hours a 375 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: week part time. So forty hours a week. Most families 376 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: are offering two, three or four weeks paid vacation. They're 377 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: offering paid sick time, they're offering six to ten paid 378 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: federal holidays. A lot of families are offering a monthly 379 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: medical stipend or health insurance. And if a nanny's driving 380 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: her own vehicle, they must be and reimburse at the 381 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: federal mileage rate, which this year is fifty eight point 382 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: five cents per mile. So it's a big undertaking when 383 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: you hire an employee for your household. And I can 384 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: feel overwhelming, but I promise it'll feel much underwhelming throughout 385 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: the entire relationship if you spend an hour being overwhelmed 386 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: setting yourself up for success. It's so true. I was 387 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: so completely freaked out by all of this. True, it's 388 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: too toothfold. You feel a like, this is the most 389 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: money ever, But then be You're like, but they're taking 390 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: care of the like the most important thing that I've 391 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: ever known in my life. And then you're talking about 392 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: vacation days and oh my god, she's going to get 393 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: three weeks paid vacation, and she gets six sick paid 394 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: sick days, and I have to pay her for Martin 395 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: Luther King Day and Labor Day and Memorial Day and 396 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: all of that, and I have to say it's all okay. 397 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: Like that stuff that really I thought was sort of 398 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: hard to swallow at first and was really scary for 399 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: anybody who's listening. It has really just made the relationship 400 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: very clear and there is no resentment because I just 401 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: accepted it and those are the rules and that's what 402 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: she's used to. And it was a little bit hard 403 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: at first two because my nanny had been doing this 404 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: for thirty years and so she already knew all of 405 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: this coming in, and I was like, wait what what? 406 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: Wait what? And she's really alpha. You were talking about 407 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: strengths and weaknesses. Um, she and I have different strengths 408 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: and weaknesses. And she's very very great at boundaries and 409 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: she's very very strong in person, and so she comes 410 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: in knowing exactly what she deserves and what she wants 411 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: and how to get it. And like I was so 412 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: weirded out at first, and now I'm so grateful because 413 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: it was so clear, and I think that is really important. 414 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: It is, and honestly, any nanny that comes in with 415 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: those ideas is a professional. Any nanny that says to you, 416 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to be paid under the table, I've 417 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: never been paid on payroll, I don't have an employment agreement, 418 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: I don't sign an employment agreement, I would say run. 419 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: That's a huge red flag to me. And it's the 420 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: nanny that's probably gonna turn around and sue you because 421 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: she's gonna get COVID and go have to file for unemployment, 422 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: and there's going to be no unemployment for her to 423 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: file for. You and I have texted about this. It 424 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: seems impossible to find a part time nanny, anyone under 425 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: forty hours, which seems to be what a lot of 426 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: moms want because maybe they don't work full time hours, 427 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: or they are looking for just more sanity or whatever. 428 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: What the hell did those women do? Here's why it's 429 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: so hard to find a part time nanny. So I'll 430 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: get a phone call from a mom that says or 431 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: a dad that says, hey, I just need like twelve 432 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: hours a week. And I need it on like Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, 433 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: and it's from three to six. Okay, I mean that 434 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: math doesn't even work all this' nine hours. But whatever, 435 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: I need four days week, three hours ships right, you know, 436 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: you get me. So then that means that nanny can't 437 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: work with another family and how do you find another 438 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: job just on a Tuesday or the day that they 439 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: don't need you because they need that income because gas 440 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: prices are outrageous and so is rent. So that's why. 441 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: Because if you have those odd hours and some people 442 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: are like, well I just need like eleven to two, 443 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: and like you're you're stopping a nanny from getting a 444 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: morning job or a night job. So what I always 445 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: try to advise is do twenty hours a week and 446 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: do it after school. Offer after school hours between three 447 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: and seven or three and eight, and then maybe extend 448 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: to a date night, or maybe extend have an earlier 449 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: shift one week where that nanny grocery shops for you, 450 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: they walk your dog, they run some errands. So making 451 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: this into a family assistant role and get your other 452 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: stuff done, because the reality is there's a lot more 453 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: than twelve hours a week. That's the bare minimum that 454 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: people are asking for because they think, I just need 455 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: a little time here and there, but the nanny can't 456 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: afford to work that nobody can afford. If you have 457 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: a nanny at you know, thirty dollars an hour for 458 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: ten hours a week, that's three hundred dollars after taxes, 459 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: it's a hundred and eighty dollars a week. Nobody can 460 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 1: live off of that. Have you had any success. I've 461 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: had a couple of friends that have done like a 462 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: nanny share. So like, yeah, families that are best friends 463 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: that like, I did a nanny shape for years. Yeah, 464 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: they like, I'll take the mornings and then she has 465 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: a lunch break, and then she does afternoons at yours 466 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: and then you know, cobbling them together. She has the 467 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: full forty hours plus some overtime. Um, that's an offer. 468 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: And for people listening, it's it's not something that most 469 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: agencies take on because most of the time something happens. 470 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with nanny shares. It's especially during the pandemic, 471 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: it's like we have different ideals of what's safe, our 472 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: kids are in different pods. And then also I can 473 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: tell you this, it becomes a nanny bidding war kind 474 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: of where the relationships going smooth for about six months, 475 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: and then somebody gets a big break or a new job, 476 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: and now they need that nanny for more hours, and 477 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: then now they're offering more money in the nanny's You know, 478 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: it's never an equal playing ground. It's messy. It's messy, 479 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: or one of the kids go to school and now 480 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: you know somebody sick, Do I still pay them? I 481 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: find it to be super messy unless you're truly best 482 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: friends or neighbors. Um, it's hard to do a nanny 483 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: share for a long time. What would be interview questions 484 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: that you would advise someone who's interviewing a nanny This 485 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: is step one, like they're doing the zoom, like you've 486 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: matched up, they're doing the zoom, or it's the trial day. 487 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: What would be like three to five things you would 488 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: you would advise people to ask once you know, I'm 489 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: not talking logistics, like I'm not talking like pay or 490 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: things like that. M No. I think that's excellent because 491 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: we actually give our clients interview questions to ask, because 492 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 1: I think it's hard for parents to come up with 493 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: those ideas. But some of the top questions we say 494 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: is number one, like why why did you choose to 495 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: become a nanny? It's such a basic question, but you 496 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: learn a lot about a person. And then I would 497 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: say to the nanny, while my child is sleeping, what 498 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: are some of the activities you do? This is a 499 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: good way to see if somebody is proactive and helpful 500 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: part of the house exactly, Like if evan nanny is like, oh, 501 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not saying you can't take a break, 502 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: but a nanny might say, well, I take a break, okay, 503 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: or another nanny might respond with a question and say, oh, 504 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm doing children's laundry and organizing toys and sanity seen bottles. 505 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: And you know you're going to see that somebody is proactive. 506 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: You know that's a difference. Um, you might ask have 507 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: you taken any classes or courses in child development or 508 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: have you studied any specific childcare philosophies? What is your 509 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: style of discipline? Hugely important? UM, right now, tell me 510 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: what COVID cautious means to you? Whoa guys, Ryan Jordan's 511 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: educated nanny's is worth it? This is so good, you know, 512 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: I mean these I it's like you know that because 513 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: some people ask some basic questions. And then this is 514 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: my kind of like kicker question that I asked nanny's. 515 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: You can learn so much because so many times they'll 516 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: answer in a unique way, what is your weakness. I'm 517 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: going to talk to your references and get all your 518 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: strengths and your weaknesses, but I like to hear from 519 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: nanny's what is your weakness? In interviews, I asked nanny's 520 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: that too. And if a nanny says to me, I 521 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: don't know how to say no, or I'm a perfectionist, 522 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: I will full stop that right there. First of all, 523 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: not knowing to say no, that is not well. That 524 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: is not a weakness. That's a gift to a boss. 525 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: That's not a weakness. It's a weakness to the job 526 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: or who you are. So I always say it might 527 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: be like I can't help with math over the age 528 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: of sixth grade, I am not a great cook. I 529 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable working for divorced parents. I don't know how 530 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: to discipline. It makes me feel uncomfortable. I don't want 531 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: to fly. I'm afraid of flights. So I really dig 532 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: in there and say what is your weakness? No surface 533 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: answers there, and I say listen, people get emotional. It's 534 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: hard to talk about weaknesses. But guess what, people were flawed. 535 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: We all have weaknesses and you don't need to change. 536 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: You're not supposed to have a bucket full of strengths. 537 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: Your weaknesses. Embrace them and own them and hire your weakness. 538 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: I I'm not a great cook. Every nanny I hire, 539 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, great, take that off my plate. That is 540 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: my stressing. Yes, And I never want to be a 541 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,479 Speaker 1: great cook. And I am okay with that. I am 542 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: a great appetizer maker, and I'll bake some mean cookies. Okay, 543 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: So it's okay. Just own it. Own it. How can 544 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: parents and nanny's work together in the discipline department? That 545 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: is key? And I always say start with the parents 546 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: or the grown ups in the house first. The grown 547 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: ups and the house have to be on the same page. 548 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: So many times nanny's will say to me, Mom came 549 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: home and said, no dessert. This child is going to 550 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: be going to a birthday party. There's a lot of dessert. 551 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 1: Mom doesn't want any dessert. Dad comes through the kitchen 552 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: and child hangs on the dad's leg. Daddy, I want 553 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: a cookie, Daddy, And this and daddy's like, stopped winding 554 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: him on the cellphone, has a child of cookie, and 555 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: the nanny's like, and the mom walks in at that moment, 556 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: and it's like, did you not comprehend what I was 557 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: putting down? And the nanny's like, oh my gosh. So 558 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: and that's not even discipline, this is just communications. So 559 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: with discipline, I always say, have that first meeting together 560 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: and say what is your style of discipline? Most times 561 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: now parents are gentle parenting. They're not doing time outs, 562 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: they're getting down to the child's level, talking through validating emotions. 563 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: And discipline to me is actually an educational boundary setting word. 564 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: It's not a bad thing. A lot of times people 565 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 1: use the word discipline as a negative. I don't think 566 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: that's a negative. I think discipline is an opportunity to 567 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: teach your child is something new and to have your 568 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: child understand the boundaries in your house. And it's something 569 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: as simple as when we go to our friend's house, 570 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: we don't jump on the couch. And if you're jumping 571 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: on the couch, you know I'm going to ask you 572 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: to stop, or I'm going to help your body down 573 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: from the couch. It's not safe and it's not going 574 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: to be good manners at our friend's house, you know, 575 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: So it disciplin ten to me is just helping. Yeah, 576 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: I completely agree. Um, and you have to make sure 577 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: your nanny is on the same page with whatever your 578 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: style is, you know, like because it is about clarity. 579 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: And you know, it's been a really interesting road, um 580 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: for us. My son when he's acting out, you know, 581 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: he'll come home and my I'll be like, how was 582 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: he and my nanny will be like, he's spicy today. Um, 583 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: but we've got we've got a real you know. Albie 584 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: is a very um, strong, willed, fiery child, and so 585 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: the three of us have had to work very closely, 586 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: um and being on the same page so that he 587 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: is not getting mixed signals from each different person regarding 588 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: what the rules are. You know, I think it's important 589 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: to establish the rules as grown ups, but then also 590 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: established the rules in front of the child. Yes, so 591 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: just like that helps give you know, they want to 592 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: know who is the leader and who they can get away, 593 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: whose buttons can they push. So with my nanny, Danielle, 594 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: I always said Danielle's and charge it for the day. 595 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: And if Danielle tells you something, mom is going to 596 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: agree with Danielle, and I'm more of a pushover. I mean, 597 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: I have boundaries and rules, but I learned from her 598 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 1: because she would set such clear boundaries and not change 599 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: her mind that my kids more often than not responded 600 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: and behaved more in front of her than me, and likewise, 601 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: when I was way better when I was. Yeah, what 602 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: are your tips and tricks in keeping communication lines clear 603 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: um between nanny and parents? And also, you know what's 604 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: interesting which we should talk about too, is there's been 605 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: so many times where my nanny and I are really 606 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: raising my kids because Adam has been out of town 607 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: working or he feels like, you know, my husband is 608 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: a very very very involved dad. And I remember when 609 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: it when we first when Miriam first started working, he 610 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 1: was like, why is Miriam not texting me? I should 611 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: be on that chain, you know, like he was pissed, 612 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: Like he was like, excuse me, this isn't like the 613 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: you and Miriam are raising our children. There's three of 614 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: us here, and I feel like I'm always on the 615 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: outs and it's always what you and Miriam want because 616 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: me and Miriam really getting the flow, especially in the 617 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: months where he's out of town shooting, you know, and 618 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: then he comes back and Miriam and I are like, 619 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: what the fuck? Like he missed everything up. We're like 620 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: we're raising what are you doing? You know? So how 621 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: does communication? I mean it ebbs and flows, like all 622 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 1: relationships do. It's really hard. Um, But any trip tips 623 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: or tricks you have I do. Um. This may sound 624 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: a little cheesy, but I do it with my employees 625 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: and I've done it in my house Fridays or my 626 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: happiness check day, Like what's going on, how do we 627 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: feel about the week? Anything we can approve upon, any 628 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: awesome things that you want to talk about, Like I'll 629 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: do it over zoom with my team now, or I'll 630 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: just call him out of the blue, Hey, happiness check, 631 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: what's up? How's your Friday going anything? I like to 632 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: leave space because then people can't harbor resentment or like 633 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: try to snowball things or stifle it. And I'd rather 634 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: talk about it now than three weeks from now, so 635 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,439 Speaker 1: that it's opportunity to chat. Or when my nanny the kids, 636 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: you know, on Fridays, if the kids were sleeping or 637 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: at school or what have either playing outside on the swings. 638 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: Hey just checking in. Was there any big moments this week? 639 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: You want to discuss anything that's making you unhappy anyway 640 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: I can support you, you know, And also it gives 641 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: voice if I have any concerns, Like you know, this 642 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: week was really successful, but I noticed that it I 643 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: don't know, like something didn't go the way that I 644 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: had hoped or expected, and I want to have a 645 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: conversation about that. And then in regards to husband's being 646 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: on the checks chain, so I always tell nanny's this, 647 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:20,720 Speaker 1: find out who's involved with what, and this is really key. 648 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: Does your boss want a phone call, a text or 649 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: an email? How do you communicate? Yes? How what form 650 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: of communication are you? What's apping them? If they're in 651 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 1: another country? Should you send an email? Should you send 652 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: a text? Um? What text do you want to be on? 653 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: I would say my husband likes to be on the 654 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 1: text if my nanny sends a picture of my kids 655 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: doing something cool for the day, but he doesn't want 656 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: to be on the text while he's on set, you know, 657 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 1: filming and getting every message like oh, the gardeners coming, okay, great, 658 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: the dogs here, the kids going here, I'm going here? O, 659 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: can you bring my pump to the office. My husband 660 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: doesn't want to know that. It's actually just more distracting, 661 00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,919 Speaker 1: but you better believe it. If I get a pict 662 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: sure of one of my kids and he wasn't on that, 663 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: he's like, wait a minute, they went to the zoo, 664 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: they did this, he feels very disconnected. So find out 665 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,959 Speaker 1: what's important to them. And then obviously any chats about 666 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: baiting things like schooling or scheduling, get a Google calendar 667 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: and get everybody in there and color code that. I mean, 668 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's all a work in progress, right, 669 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: I mean, my husband doesn't check the darn Google calendar, 670 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: but at least I try. Okay, Oh my god, we 671 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: live and die off our Google calendar. It's in and 672 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: it's like, well you didn't put that in the Google calendar, 673 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 1: saying well did you check like regular for me? Are 674 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: there any things that we've forgotten that you would like 675 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: to add? And please? Where can people find you? And 676 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: Educated Nanny? Yes, so I have a website, Educated Nannie's 677 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: dot com. We're on all social media channel you know, Facebook, Instagram. 678 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: You can call me too if you'd like. I'm happy 679 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: to chat um and I just I just want to 680 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: leave parents with two things I guess before I leave 681 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: is one, don't be afraid to ask for help. A 682 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: lot of people don't have family here. I can't tell 683 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: you how many overnights and free care my sister has 684 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: gotten for the eighteen years and with her child because 685 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: my mom was a block and a half away, Like 686 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: that is a gift. That is such a gift. And 687 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 1: if you don't have family in town or friends, because 688 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: I guess what, your friends are all busy navigating this 689 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: to find help and ask for help. There's nothing wrong 690 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: with asking for help. And also there's nothing wrong with 691 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: asking for help if you're not if you don't have 692 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,439 Speaker 1: a job and you want to go do some self care, 693 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: or you want to take a nap so you can 694 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 1: show up as the best version of yourself for your 695 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: kids or your husband. Get a manicure. I mean my 696 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 1: get a manicure and have a job. And she had 697 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: you know week here and I was like, you know, 698 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: she it was part of her health was to get 699 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: in the house and go to a workout class in community. 700 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: She didn't like working out at home. She loved to hike, 701 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: she loved to be outdoors. She didn't want to be 702 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: with her kids. When she did that, she really wanted 703 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: to manicure. I was like, listen, honey, you're a better 704 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: mom when you have those things, and it's an amazing 705 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: thing that you can afford it. Go for it. Yes, 706 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: that's what I say. And the other piece of information 707 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: I want to offer to families going through this process 708 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 1: is give people the benefit of the doubt, not if 709 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 1: it's not a gut check. But sometimes I get calls 710 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: for really ridiculous things, like I had a family call 711 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: once and just I just say, your nanny is not 712 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: reading your mind, and they only know what they know 713 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: from the last situation they came in. So I'll say, well, 714 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: the nanny put the great knives in the in the dishwasher, 715 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: and does she not know this? I'm like, no, You're 716 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,439 Speaker 1: nanny is probably in her twenties and has eaten off 717 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: of plastic forks and came from a family that doesn't 718 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: have money and may not understand etiquette. What a great 719 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: learning opportunity. It's not like she's trying to hurt your 720 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 1: silverware or we're an all organic family. And this nanny 721 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: was drinking a diet coke. Great, that's a simple conversation. 722 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: Drink your diet, coke in your car, before you come 723 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: into work, there might be things that could be easily tweaked. 724 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: And before you end a relationship, and so if the 725 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: relationship is gonna end, it's gonna end. And if there's 726 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 1: personality conflict, that's not good. You don't want to feel 727 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: like you're walking on eggshells. But if there's a lot 728 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: of times there's small little tweaks you can make when 729 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: somebody is going to be really open and receptive and 730 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: learn like this, I completely agree with that relationships take work. 731 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,879 Speaker 1: You know, most of the time they should feel easy, 732 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: but you're gonna have some bumps in the road and 733 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: just try to have open communication in and you know, 734 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: those are the relationships that flourish. I can tell you 735 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: this nanny's never quit jobs because of children. That is great. Um. 736 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: Last question we ask every one of our guests this 737 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: parenthood is a beautiful mess. Ryan Jordan's of Educated Nanny's 738 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: and my friend, I am so grateful to know you 739 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 1: and I'm so grateful to have been a guest on 740 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: your podcast called The Educated Mama. Right you, It's so 741 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,240 Speaker 1: much fun and I just like, I just want to 742 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: wrap you up on goodness, and I can't wait to 743 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: have lunch with you. And you're just one of my 744 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: You're one of my people. You're so kind and you're 745 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: so talented, and you're so good at this educated Nannies 746 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: dot Com call Ryan and UM, thank you so much 747 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: for being on Katie's Crib. You're amazing. You're so conversation 748 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: you know, and fun and it's great, like it's awesome, Katie. 749 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding you. I could talk to you for hours. 750 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome back to Katie's Crib. You all listening. 751 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: We have such a treat of a guest today. Oh man, 752 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 1: the one and only. I have been following this, this 753 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: incredible woman for a long time. She goes by Nanny Connie. 754 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: I wish she was like my nanny. And when I 755 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 1: say that, I don't mean like for my kids, I 756 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: mean like for me. All listening, let me tell you 757 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: a little bit about Nanny Connie first and why she's 758 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: such an amazing get for us and why she is 759 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:53,720 Speaker 1: so knowledgeable on speaking from the nanny perspective and about 760 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:59,320 Speaker 1: um childcare. So. Connie Simpson or Nanny Connie, is a 761 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,919 Speaker 1: family and chi care expert, coach and consultant. She has 762 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: over thirty years of experience equipping parents and empowering nanny's 763 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: to be their best for their families. Nanny Connie is 764 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 1: a proud product of the Deep South, where she learned 765 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: the importance of manners, wisdom, compassion, love, and patience in abundance. 766 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: These values have made her one of the most in 767 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 1: demand baby nurses and a trusted family member. Too many 768 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 1: Hollywood celebrities let me just like run you down the list. 769 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: It's like Jessica Bield, Justin Timberlake, Emily Blended, John Krasinski, Brookshields, 770 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,280 Speaker 1: Amal and George Clooney. What Nanny Connie has made appearances 771 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: on like so many popular media platforms to offer her 772 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: advice like Good Morning America, The tamarn Hall Show, Today Parents, 773 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: Good Morning Britain, etcetera, etcetera. She's global everybody. She's the 774 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: author of The Nanny Connie Way, which is a baby 775 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: manual that has become the go to guide for first 776 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 1: time parents, and her book gives parents to support and 777 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 1: affirmation that they need to be the best they can 778 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: be for their families. Welcome to Katie's Crib. Nanny Connie, 779 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 1: I love your crib. Thank you so much for being here. 780 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: Thank you darling, thank you for having me. Oh my pleasure. 781 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: Can you share with our audience how you started your 782 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: nanny journey from taking care of your daughter Courtney up 783 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: until now working with celebrity parents. Well, actually, it's like 784 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: when it's your calling and you try to run from it, 785 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: it will always catch up with you. You know. You 786 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: can go in many different directions, but it's like the 787 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,720 Speaker 1: Marvel stretch and all that ship seems to always pop 788 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: right back to what it was. And that's me. That's 789 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 1: where my nanny journey came from. Um. I went to 790 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 1: school for early childhood education, and you know, I thought, 791 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 1: oh I'll do this, I'll do that. But I did 792 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, but mastered in none of it. 793 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,720 Speaker 1: But then I found out I was ma stirring something 794 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,839 Speaker 1: that was so important and important to the family. And 795 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 1: that was like you started off saying, I wish you 796 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: were my nanny, you know, and that's what a lot 797 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,720 Speaker 1: of my parents have said, you know, damn my children, 798 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: I just need you for me, you know. And I 799 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 1: get it, I really get it, because you know when 800 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: I when I am there for you, I'm there for 801 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: your child because your child feeds off of your energy, 802 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: so it makes the whole house much more cohesive. So 803 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: I started off, um, taking care of my baby dolls 804 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: first of all. Then I went to school for early childhood. 805 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 1: Then I had my daughter, and then I said, you 806 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: know what, and having Courtney, no one's gonna take care 807 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: of her because that's my responsibility. Although I had a 808 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,360 Speaker 1: phenomenal village of my aunts and my mom and you know, 809 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,879 Speaker 1: my cousins and my grandparents. I was so blessed. I 810 00:45:54,920 --> 00:46:00,399 Speaker 1: was so blessed. Um. And Um, she she wanted for love. 811 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 1: You know, I was a single parent, but she didn't. 812 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 1: She didn't want for any love because where one would 813 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: slow down, the other one would pick her up. Ah, 814 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 1: that is the dream. So you really grew up with 815 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 1: the village taking care and helping raise the baby. And 816 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: I it's so bizarre to me that we live in 817 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,919 Speaker 1: this time where a lot of us are very very 818 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 1: far due to work or life takes us places that 819 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:34,919 Speaker 1: are very far from our family. Um. That's definitely my case. Um. 820 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 1: And it was a huge adjustment to sort of understand 821 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: that I'm going to be raising my children with also 822 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: someone who is a paid employee, you know, because that's 823 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: not how I was raised. So it is. It is 824 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 1: a very interesting, wild relationship. We're going to get into 825 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:56,359 Speaker 1: all of that. So so um my next question is 826 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 1: do you think it's harder taking care of other people 827 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 1: rules children or your own child? Courtney, I think it's 828 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 1: much easier taking care of other people's children. I agree, Yes, 829 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 1: I agree. And people ask me this all the time 830 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,760 Speaker 1: and like, as a nanny, weren't you just so prepared 831 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 1: when you had your own child? And I was like, honestly, no, 832 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 1: I don't know why. But for all of you listening, 833 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,360 Speaker 1: there's this weird thing where my kids save up all 834 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 1: their shenanigans for me. They rarely pull that ship with 835 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:37,359 Speaker 1: the babysitter or are or are nanny Miriam. Um, so 836 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,439 Speaker 1: that's already inherently hard. Also, you do there is an 837 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 1: end date when you are a nanny. You do have 838 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 1: a shift which may end at seven pm, seven am whenever. 839 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 1: That is where you sort of collect yourself when you 840 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:55,439 Speaker 1: are you're a mom. It doesn't stop. It does even 841 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: when you're away and you're working. I'm thinking about the kids. 842 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm dealing with all the logistics. Were they fed when's 843 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 1: that doctor's appointment? Did they learn how to swim today? 844 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,439 Speaker 1: Are they sick? Or was that a running nose? Should 845 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 1: I go get them COVID tested? I mean, it is endless, 846 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 1: It's endless. It really okay, So you hear it up 847 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 1: here first, because people always ask me that question as 848 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,720 Speaker 1: being a nanny and a mother, which one was harder? 849 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,840 Speaker 1: And I'm glad you and I agree on that, because 850 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 1: your your children will put you in a place that 851 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 1: they'll they'll check you without knowing that they check you 852 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 1: because you're already on this emotional roller coaster of the 853 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: checklist of everything you've done right, are done wrong, and 854 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 1: your second guessing you know your ability to be that 855 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,799 Speaker 1: mom and be the best mom you can be, And 856 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 1: then your children come at you and they say something 857 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 1: that just pierces your heart and your soul because you 858 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:49,400 Speaker 1: were okay, I know I could have done better, you know, 859 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: or or I did my best, or you are already 860 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 1: in that state of mind, and then they came back 861 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 1: to solidify that damn you know I could have stepped 862 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,360 Speaker 1: to the plate in different way. So yes, your children 863 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 1: always seem to check you. Oh there you're there's my 864 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: son is my biggest trigger in the world for me. 865 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 1: We are not oil and vinegar. I don't like to 866 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 1: say that, because we do also wildly get along. But 867 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 1: he has the ability to push my buttons in a 868 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 1: way that I've never had before, let alone. I've never 869 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 1: let anyone speak to me the way he speaks to me. 870 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 1: Sometimes he's a slither of you. Oh my, Yes, it's 871 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,479 Speaker 1: the slither of you that you never thought would come 872 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,400 Speaker 1: to a realization or standing in front of you, but 873 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 1: it does come to. And that's what I try to 874 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: teach my parents. It's like you try to figure out 875 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 1: these little beans that lay in front of you, and 876 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: it's like, hello, look in the mirror, because that's you, 877 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 1: that's you lying there, you know, And and it's gonna 878 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 1: grow up and have a voice, and guess what, it's 879 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 1: gonna give you back everything in ten times fold that 880 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 1: you gave your parents. You know. It comes from both 881 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 1: beings of it. Yeah, it's the slip other of you 882 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,720 Speaker 1: that you've You're like, oh, my achilles heel has finally 883 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 1: woken up and it has a right. That's exactly it. Um. 884 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 1: How tips for parents who are working with a nanny, 885 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,359 Speaker 1: How can you make the most of your nannie when 886 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 1: they come over to work with your children who are 887 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 1: older than newborns. Like, let's say you have a nanny 888 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 1: and your kids are toddlers, are like a little bit older. 889 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 1: What is your advice and tips for parents to really 890 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 1: make the most of that time and sort of set boundaries. 891 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,280 Speaker 1: I think it's really important. Although I I my book 892 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,720 Speaker 1: is only the first four months, but there's a huge 893 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: connection between the first four months in the fifteen the 894 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: eleven to seventeen year old child, because they are they 895 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: are dealing with boundaries that they don't know what they 896 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 1: held to do with them, and they're trying to to 897 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 1: puff themselves up to say I do know, I do 898 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,320 Speaker 1: have control, you know, because they're under the peer pressure 899 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:02,240 Speaker 1: and they're under the realization that my parents are leaving 900 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 1: me in control of something. But I don't understand it. 901 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 1: But I want to. I want to have more independence, 902 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 1: So I have to act a certain way so I 903 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,479 Speaker 1: can get that independence to hang out with these kids 904 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: who give me that peer pressure. So I think between 905 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 1: that mom and that nanny, you really have to have 906 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 1: a huge connection with each other and understand that communication 907 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 1: is the baseline for all of this. You know, and 908 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 1: you have to hear the things that the nanny are 909 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: saying to you. You know, Um, it's a once a 910 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 1: week meeting of sitting down and and not putting your 911 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,359 Speaker 1: feelings on your shoulders to say, that's my kid I've 912 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 1: raised until eleven and I know, but you don't know 913 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 1: because you're eleven year old. Will hide stuff from you 914 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: because they're in fear that you will either push them 915 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,280 Speaker 1: back and say, well, you can't go out with your friends, 916 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,720 Speaker 1: or the judgment that will come from you. So they'll 917 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,800 Speaker 1: talk to that nanny. You know, they have a better 918 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,799 Speaker 1: end with someone who comes from the outside. So it's 919 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 1: important for you and that nanny to have a weekly 920 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 1: or every two week meeting. Wow, So you suggest do 921 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 1: you do this in your households too, even with little ones, 922 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 1: that you have a weekly set meeting with the parents 923 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 1: without the children present. Yes, and what is on the 924 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,879 Speaker 1: agenda of that meeting. It can actually be like to 925 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 1: touch base to say, you know, she retreats to her 926 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: room every evening at five o'clock. We don't have to 927 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: worry about her, but she's in her room and the 928 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 1: nanny may have more information like, yeah, she goes in 929 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 1: her room because you and dad are doing stuff and 930 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 1: you don't want to hear what she's saying, or you've 931 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,160 Speaker 1: dismissed her. So that once a week meeting gives you 932 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 1: to touch base or to figure out where how your 933 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 1: children are truly feeling, you know, or to say, here 934 00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 1: is the situation. Let's not play each other against each 935 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,280 Speaker 1: other in the situation. Let's use each other for to support. 936 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 1: We are not against each other. We are trying to 937 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,839 Speaker 1: raise a decent, loving human together. Right and now will 938 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:16,360 Speaker 1: make your nanny stay longer, that your nanny feel more supported. 939 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: That will take that edge off of where I grew 940 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: up with my mom and my aunts and my grandparents 941 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 1: helping me with Courtney and me being having to swallow 942 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: my pride and accept the things that they were saying 943 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 1: to me. Now you you have that same connection with 944 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,320 Speaker 1: someone that you're paying to be in your home because 945 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 1: they feel that comfort and they feel that support. A 946 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 1: lot of nanny's don't walk in that grace because they 947 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 1: don't feel that support. So that's an interesting Yeah. You 948 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 1: know what's funny. I my one of my long time 949 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 1: I was in nanny for this lovely girl fifteen years 950 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,320 Speaker 1: seventeen years ago something at her I was the first 951 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 1: call her mom called me. Now I had already been 952 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,959 Speaker 1: on scandal. We're working, but we're still in each other's 953 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,840 Speaker 1: lives as friends. What was really cool about finally someone 954 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 1: taking a chance on me as an actress is that 955 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 1: all the little people that I was nannying for at 956 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,920 Speaker 1: the time or babysitting for, like instead of working for anywhere, 957 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 1: I would take them out to lunch or a fun 958 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,840 Speaker 1: day or whatever. But those moms um one mom in 959 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 1: particular called me when her daughter was getting like sexually active, 960 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 1: and and she was like, can you hang out with her? 961 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 1: And just I don't want to know, I don't need 962 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,799 Speaker 1: to know, like that's her private stuff, but can you 963 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 1: just judge that she is being safe and being you know, 964 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,920 Speaker 1: and feeling good about her choices and understands. And I 965 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, Okay, yeah, Like I'll see 966 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 1: if she wants to confide in me, and I'll take 967 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 1: her out to dinner and stuff like that and ask 968 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: her some questions like do you have a boyfriend, Like 969 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 1: are you happy? What are your friends up to? And 970 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 1: she confided in me so much. And I never told 971 00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:58,879 Speaker 1: her mom, but I just called her and I said, 972 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 1: you've got nothing that she's doing every she's happy, she's 973 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 1: in control of her body, she knows what's going on. 974 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: And I was really like proud of that. But well, 975 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 1: again it was an example of us working in tandem 976 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 1: to parent this this young adult. Really, that's right, they're 977 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,920 Speaker 1: only a child once, and that that childhood is pretty 978 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:25,280 Speaker 1: much over with by the fifth grade, because they've started 979 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,439 Speaker 1: into puberty. They started, you know, they started dealing with 980 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,839 Speaker 1: the six questions. They started sounds like a nightmare. Yeah, 981 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,720 Speaker 1: it really is, it really is. And and the further, 982 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 1: you know, by the seventh grade, you know, they really 983 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 1: feel like, as my grandmother saying, they're starting to really 984 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 1: smell themselves. And they are smelling themselves because they start 985 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,799 Speaker 1: I love that saying, you know, I love that saying, 986 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,080 Speaker 1: that's the funnies they've ever heard about. And then by 987 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 1: the time that they're teenagers, they're getting like, well, when 988 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,360 Speaker 1: you're seventeen and eighteen, your parents don't you're an adult, 989 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 1: you know, And and and here we live in this 990 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,799 Speaker 1: world where a team gives them an opportunity to tell 991 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,719 Speaker 1: you to rotate on their middle finger. But when they 992 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 1: don't have any any sense at all of what to do, 993 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,919 Speaker 1: you know, so it's really important to to pour as 994 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 1: much as you can into that foundation so that it 995 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,800 Speaker 1: is solidified. And then when you come into middle school, 996 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 1: now you can kind of you can coast a little bit, 997 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,799 Speaker 1: but then you can also be there for them so 998 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,839 Speaker 1: that they will feel comfortable coming to you to have 999 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:35,279 Speaker 1: those conversations. You know. This is like with Courtney, my 1000 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,879 Speaker 1: home was the home base because I wanted to see 1001 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 1: all of her friends. Oh, I'm definitely gonna beat. My 1002 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 1: house was like that growing up to you were like 1003 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 1: this the snack house. Like my mom always had like 1004 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 1: the good stuff to eat that was like Kudos bars, 1005 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,719 Speaker 1: and like my mom was you know, we were the 1006 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 1: sleepover house. And I'm like oh, because she wanted to 1007 00:56:52,239 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 1: know what was going on. I think we've heard on 1008 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,400 Speaker 1: this podcast a lot from a lot of experts about 1009 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 1: that the values that your family upholds, that are things 1010 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,759 Speaker 1: that could be literally written on the kitchen table right 1011 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 1: like whatever those things are to you, like be kind 1012 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 1: or in my household, it's like we always have your 1013 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 1: brother sisters back, like we are a team unit here, 1014 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 1: you know, Like, um, but I do think and I 1015 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 1: see this with a lot of friends. There's just a 1016 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 1: lot of scheduling of stuff. And this is that one 1017 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 1: percent where it's like they go from school to eight 1018 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 1: thousand other things, and that I think maybe make some 1019 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 1: moms feel like they're succeeding, yes, keeping them busy, keeping 1020 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 1: them out of trouble, and keeping them busy, when when 1021 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,920 Speaker 1: actually and all actuality, you're pushing them away from you 1022 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 1: because you're going, well, they have this and they have 1023 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 1: that after school. So you know, we all have a 1024 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 1: busy schedule, but did you have that connection? Did you 1025 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 1: have that the humanity of being together? And we as 1026 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,919 Speaker 1: humans need that connection. We do. We we sit down 1027 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 1: with our our partners and our spouses and we want 1028 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,520 Speaker 1: the cuddles, we want the hugs, we want our feet rub. 1029 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 1: It's then doorfin that releases that makes us feel good. 1030 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,920 Speaker 1: It makes us feel you know, responsible, It makes us 1031 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 1: feel wanted, It makes us feel something, as opposed to 1032 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 1: a a class that you go to that makes you 1033 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 1: feel nothing. So that kitchen table is so important, you know, 1034 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 1: because you gain more from that kitchen table other than 1035 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 1: the food that you eat that nourishes your body. You 1036 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 1: you get your soul nourish. I love hearing this, I 1037 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 1: really I love hearing this. When to add to the 1038 00:58:55,000 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 1: weekly nanny parent meeting and really supporting each other and 1039 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 1: realizing that you guys are a team and it's not like, oh, 1040 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, there's no pitting against each other. If you 1041 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,440 Speaker 1: are are the authority figure, you are the parent, you 1042 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 1: are the employer. What are the effective ways where parents 1043 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 1: and nanni's can take a unified stance so that both 1044 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:22,160 Speaker 1: authority figures maintain credibility in the parents eyes. I was 1045 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:26,240 Speaker 1: reading this um in your book, in Nanny Connie's book, 1046 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:30,400 Speaker 1: The Nanny Connie Way. Get it now, folks, brookshields daughter Rowan. 1047 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 1: She tried to be sneaky and she asked both Brooke 1048 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 1: and you if she could hold her younger sister greer, 1049 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 1: and rather than say yes, for example, Brooke asked Rowan 1050 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 1: what you said first, which is just an example of again, 1051 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,760 Speaker 1: not only do you have to be a unified front 1052 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,680 Speaker 1: if there's a spouse or a partner involved, but you 1053 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 1: do have to be a unified force with the child 1054 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:57,280 Speaker 1: care expert or whoever you're employing. Here's the deal. A 1055 00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:01,919 Speaker 1: child will try so many from ways to see how 1056 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 1: they can get out that front door. If if walking 1057 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,480 Speaker 1: out that front door it's not accessible to them. They're 1058 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,919 Speaker 1: gonna see if that window next to the front door 1059 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 1: is open, and if they can slither out of it 1060 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 1: or whatever they can do to get out of it, 1061 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 1: They're gonna try it because that's them. That's they don't 1062 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 1: know any better, and that's what they do. That's what 1063 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 1: children do. We did it, you know, so we always 1064 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,439 Speaker 1: think that we have that upper hand. So it's so 1065 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 1: important for as opposed to just having that weekly meeting, 1066 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 1: is to make this team, you know, so connected by 1067 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 1: telling your nanny, let's let's go to target and go shopping, 1068 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, and then you have that camaraderie of talking 1069 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,880 Speaker 1: about you know, um like rolling, rolling and wanted to 1070 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,200 Speaker 1: hold the baby. But then I get to hear my 1071 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 1: nanny and and her philosophy on how she talks to 1072 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 1: the children. So now I get to add to what 1073 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,160 Speaker 1: she's saying or to say to her, well, let's say 1074 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 1: it this way, you know, so that when you get it, 1075 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 1: then I know I'm going to get the other end 1076 01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 1: of it, and then we can both be on the 1077 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,880 Speaker 1: same page. That's what you're having to do let's put 1078 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 1: it to that support staff that's going to help you 1079 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,960 Speaker 1: think that process all the way out. And that's a nanny, 1080 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 1: that's a team player, that's you know, that's someone in 1081 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 1: your church that you've you said, okay, you know what, 1082 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 1: can you help me two or three days a week. 1083 01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,560 Speaker 1: Let's make them feel great about who they are and 1084 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 1: what they have to give. And then let's work together 1085 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:42,120 Speaker 1: and weave this this cloth, this blanket, this eternal piece 1086 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 1: of connection that will help my child be something, to 1087 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,640 Speaker 1: give something positive back to the universe. We all, I think, 1088 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:56,840 Speaker 1: are trying collectively as nanny's in the nanny field, parents, 1089 01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:02,440 Speaker 1: people who are really taking on this responsibility seriously. I mean, 1090 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 1: I think our goal is just trying to make the 1091 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,439 Speaker 1: world better than where we left it, and right now 1092 01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 1: we are failing miserably. UM. And I'm just praying that 1093 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 1: all these lessons from the brilliant nanny Connie and all 1094 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,520 Speaker 1: the other experts we've had on Katie's crib can help 1095 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:25,280 Speaker 1: my little corner of the sky. Um. Some quick questions, UM, 1096 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,080 Speaker 1: that came in. Lots of questions. Everybody wants to know 1097 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 1: what tips do you have in regard to overnight potty training. Okay, 1098 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:37,080 Speaker 1: So potty training is um I always say, I haven't 1099 01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,680 Speaker 1: seen a nine or ten year old that that needs 1100 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,720 Speaker 1: to be potty trained. It's gonna happen. So first of all, 1101 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 1: take yourself out of that that pool of people to say, 1102 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,560 Speaker 1: my my child was potty trained at eighteen months or 1103 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 1: my child was potty trained in two years. Potty training 1104 01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:00,960 Speaker 1: is something that's um so personal. Well, and your child, 1105 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,600 Speaker 1: when they are ready, they will come. It's not going 1106 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,920 Speaker 1: to be the stress that you think it's going to be. 1107 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,840 Speaker 1: Ten days is basically where I tell my parents, and 1108 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,880 Speaker 1: it's usually around three years old that I tell my 1109 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 1: parents too, because they can articulate their words, they can 1110 01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:24,040 Speaker 1: have this conversation, they can understand what you're asking of them. So, 1111 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,160 Speaker 1: so now when you get to that position, because pooping 1112 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 1: is going to be the last thing that they do, 1113 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,360 Speaker 1: because that's like they're losing a part of their body. 1114 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 1: They're scared. They never they are basically saying they're scared shitless. 1115 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:41,520 Speaker 1: So what do you have to do is you have 1116 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 1: to say, you know what, We've mastered this end of it. 1117 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,280 Speaker 1: It's okay, I'm with you. When it comes to pooping. 1118 01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,640 Speaker 1: You want to put your diaper on, So when you're 1119 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,880 Speaker 1: ready to poop, tell me. So now they don't feel 1120 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,959 Speaker 1: like they're a failure. They don't feel like my mom 1121 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 1: is gonna be mad at me because I didn't poop here, 1122 01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,600 Speaker 1: you know. So now you're making them comfortable and you're 1123 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 1: giving them the security and you're helping them with their 1124 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,840 Speaker 1: confidence of doing this this part of their life. So 1125 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,040 Speaker 1: they'll come up and go, yo, mom, I I need 1126 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,680 Speaker 1: to go poop. So they'll put their diaper on. They're 1127 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,560 Speaker 1: gonna stand in the corner, you know, and when they're finished, 1128 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 1: they say, just tell me. When you're finished, we'll go 1129 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 1: to the pot and we'll dump it and then come 1130 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,640 Speaker 1: out and go okay. So now they are really confident. 1131 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:30,240 Speaker 1: So now when it comes to overnight potty training, it's like, okay, 1132 01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,520 Speaker 1: so we're ready to go to bed. We start to 1133 01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:36,280 Speaker 1: talk about okay, nine o'clock is your last water or 1134 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,680 Speaker 1: seven o'clock is your last water, you know, And then 1135 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,400 Speaker 1: you come in and you tap them and say, let's 1136 01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,440 Speaker 1: walk to the party at eleven o'clock before you go 1137 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,720 Speaker 1: to bed. So you're making them void. You're helping them 1138 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,560 Speaker 1: to empty that bladder before they you know, have to 1139 01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:56,200 Speaker 1: go all from seven to seven. Oh, I couldn't even 1140 01:04:56,200 --> 01:05:00,200 Speaker 1: going exactly. So now you're telling you're helping them, you're 1141 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,800 Speaker 1: helping them to understand the process. Is this a lot? Hell? Yes, 1142 01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:09,440 Speaker 1: but life is a lot, and you're building their self esteem. 1143 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,920 Speaker 1: So the overnight potty training is a parent has to 1144 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 1: walk in that room at eleven and help them go 1145 01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,200 Speaker 1: to the bathroom, then put them back in the bed, 1146 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,120 Speaker 1: and then they have to wake up a little earlier 1147 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,520 Speaker 1: at six in the morning to help them avoid so 1148 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 1: because if they sleep a little late, then they, yeah, 1149 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,560 Speaker 1: they may have accident. And then they feel like a 1150 01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,600 Speaker 1: failure because man, I've got to tell my mom about 1151 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,560 Speaker 1: this bed. I'm gonna lie about this. So now you're 1152 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:41,240 Speaker 1: sitting the wheels in motion for feeling the shame fare 1153 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,120 Speaker 1: there you go. And also you feel like a failure. 1154 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:49,400 Speaker 1: I can remember how like I remember potty training my 1155 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:54,240 Speaker 1: son and we had the amazing UM go wacky on 1156 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,800 Speaker 1: here who wrote the oh crap book? That was very 1157 01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:00,160 Speaker 1: very helpful. She's been on Katie's crib. But like, the 1158 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,640 Speaker 1: biggest thing is you are not a failure as a parent. 1159 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:08,520 Speaker 1: None of this is a big deal. Um any tips 1160 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 1: on having siblings get a long share. I read that 1161 01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,080 Speaker 1: you have um you worked for a family who had 1162 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,360 Speaker 1: a two year old boy named Tyler. This was in 1163 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 1: your book. Uh, and the baby sister came home and 1164 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,680 Speaker 1: Tyler told you like, I thank you forgot something, which 1165 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,040 Speaker 1: is exactly what happened to my my mom when she 1166 01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,120 Speaker 1: brought home my baby brother were two years and nine 1167 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:29,920 Speaker 1: months apart, and she brought him home from the hospital, 1168 01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,080 Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't want this one. Can 1169 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:37,040 Speaker 1: you bring him back now? It's it's really important to UM. 1170 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 1: We when we started having like a lot of my 1171 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:45,760 Speaker 1: parents say to me, UM, They'll they'll come with their 1172 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,960 Speaker 1: second child and go, I've had children before. No no, no, 1173 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,880 Speaker 1: no no. Yes, you may have had a child before, 1174 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,200 Speaker 1: but you haven't had two children, or you haven't had 1175 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:59,240 Speaker 1: three children. Because the dynamics of that household changes with 1176 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,959 Speaker 1: each old. So it's really important for you to pour 1177 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,560 Speaker 1: instead of pouring into that infant who only wants their 1178 01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,120 Speaker 1: diaper change and to be fed at a certain time 1179 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,840 Speaker 1: and to be swaddled and put back down, it's really 1180 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,560 Speaker 1: important for you to to pour into that three year 1181 01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 1: old who's mastering potty training, sleep training. Moved moved from 1182 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,840 Speaker 1: their bed to their crib, from their crib to their bed, 1183 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,640 Speaker 1: because they have to give up something for this new 1184 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,560 Speaker 1: person who comes in and now they feel less than 1185 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,960 Speaker 1: So you have to start with the older one as 1186 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,280 Speaker 1: opposed to starting with the baby. And that's where a 1187 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 1: lot of people get lost in the sauce of parenting 1188 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,240 Speaker 1: because they feel like, you know, I did all of this, 1189 01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,040 Speaker 1: like they plan all of this stuff out before the 1190 01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,360 Speaker 1: baby comes, like getting the room together, I'm gonna potty 1191 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,520 Speaker 1: train him, I'm gonna take him out, the pacifier in 1192 01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:57,920 Speaker 1: the bottle. You know. Yes, so your life is is, 1193 01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,640 Speaker 1: but you've done nothing more. Then set yourself up for 1194 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,920 Speaker 1: failure because your child will have this regression of wow, 1195 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,800 Speaker 1: wait a minute, I had to give all this up 1196 01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,280 Speaker 1: for this person to come, so I'm gonna hate them 1197 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:15,880 Speaker 1: even more, you know, instead of feeling secure even more. Yeah, 1198 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,599 Speaker 1: I don't remember what expert came on here that basically 1199 01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:23,840 Speaker 1: was like, you should make no big changes within three 1200 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:28,599 Speaker 1: months at least of the baby coming. All right, Natty 1201 01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,519 Speaker 1: Connie says six, So you should. So it's not like, oh, 1202 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,920 Speaker 1: I'm having a second baby and the baby comes and 1203 01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,400 Speaker 1: now is the time to like put your kid in daycare, 1204 01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,120 Speaker 1: or put your older in preschool, or get them out 1205 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,679 Speaker 1: of the crib into the big kid bet or put 1206 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:45,280 Speaker 1: them on the potty or whatever. It's like, just keep 1207 01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,479 Speaker 1: things status quo and just deal with the change of 1208 01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,600 Speaker 1: adding a new member to your family. That's right, and 1209 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:56,599 Speaker 1: that helps with the cohesiveness of those children because now 1210 01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,200 Speaker 1: they start to love this person as opposed to go 1211 01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:03,640 Speaker 1: and oh, hey, lady, you forgot something. That's kind of situation, 1212 01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,160 Speaker 1: which he did to me. You know, it was like 1213 01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,920 Speaker 1: the baby was cool because I was taking care of 1214 01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,240 Speaker 1: the baby and and you know, mom was kind of 1215 01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,559 Speaker 1: like still driving with him, you know. And I would 1216 01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,519 Speaker 1: bring him in and I would let him peer into 1217 01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,120 Speaker 1: the bed and I would talk about his sister, you know. 1218 01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,599 Speaker 1: I made him a part of the process. But then 1219 01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,599 Speaker 1: when I was ready to go, he was like, Okay, 1220 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 1: you've done really good with this little person, So why 1221 01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:28,880 Speaker 1: don't you take this little person on the home with 1222 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,400 Speaker 1: you as opposed to leaving it with me, you know, 1223 01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,880 Speaker 1: because my world is super fine and I don't need 1224 01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:39,479 Speaker 1: anything different, you know. So it's really important for you 1225 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:45,960 Speaker 1: to have your your village to to keep things consistent. 1226 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,840 Speaker 1: Let them come over and help with the baby, and 1227 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 1: mom gets in the in the nitty gritty with that 1228 01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,520 Speaker 1: older one and make them a part of the process, 1229 01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:59,439 Speaker 1: like reading and changing the diaper and when she's feeding. 1230 01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,040 Speaker 1: It's much as you can bring them together, those little 1231 01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:07,560 Speaker 1: driplets will add up to those siblings loving and supporting 1232 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:11,439 Speaker 1: each other more as opposed to dividing. You know, like 1233 01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,240 Speaker 1: you say, dividing conquer. No no, no, no no. We 1234 01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,200 Speaker 1: don't want to divide too much. We want them to 1235 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,439 Speaker 1: be as much as you can have them together so 1236 01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:23,680 Speaker 1: that they see that this is our new life. I 1237 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,519 Speaker 1: think that was another blessing of the code of the 1238 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:30,800 Speaker 1: pandemic was like we brought my daughter home November two, 1239 01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,680 Speaker 1: and so much of the pandemic has been that my 1240 01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:41,320 Speaker 1: children only have each other because we weren't really letting 1241 01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:45,360 Speaker 1: outside people in and so that's been great for their growing. 1242 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,680 Speaker 1: What are your tips and tricks for like them not 1243 01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:52,720 Speaker 1: sharing toys and things like that. I think that um 1244 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:56,719 Speaker 1: in the very beginning, when you start to see this happen, 1245 01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,920 Speaker 1: it takes a nan or a parent to sit down 1246 01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,080 Speaker 1: with them to share, to show them how to share. 1247 01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,920 Speaker 1: If it's an older one who's not wanting them to 1248 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:12,240 Speaker 1: have their younger one to play with them. Then you 1249 01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,960 Speaker 1: have to show them, um, how to play together, you know, 1250 01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,719 Speaker 1: like let's show your sister how to put this in 1251 01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,479 Speaker 1: and then give them the praise showing them that yeah, 1252 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,400 Speaker 1: you did it. You know, like this this can be 1253 01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,880 Speaker 1: something really good. So it's really important for you as 1254 01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,639 Speaker 1: a parent as opposed to sitting them down and saying 1255 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,439 Speaker 1: you two have to play together, well, hell, how do 1256 01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,240 Speaker 1: we play together? You know, we have to have some 1257 01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:40,479 Speaker 1: kind of instructions on how this is to work. And 1258 01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:42,920 Speaker 1: then you say, when you play together with your sister, 1259 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,920 Speaker 1: you get to have fifteen minutes of playing with it 1260 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:49,520 Speaker 1: by yourself, you know, so that they learned that, Okay, 1261 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,599 Speaker 1: I can play with her, but I also can have 1262 01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:56,759 Speaker 1: this time to myself, and then coming to me and saying, mom, 1263 01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:00,559 Speaker 1: can I have fifteen minutes to play by myself at slutely? 1264 01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,720 Speaker 1: You can because you did it with the care and 1265 01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:08,040 Speaker 1: understanding that I need this independent play. But I will 1266 01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:11,040 Speaker 1: play with my sister or I will play with my brother. 1267 01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,160 Speaker 1: We have to give them that so they learn their 1268 01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:20,400 Speaker 1: social skills if they're not, it's so important. I I 1269 01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:24,639 Speaker 1: started doing monastory teaching in the very beginning, before Courtney 1270 01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:28,679 Speaker 1: was even born. But I loved it because it taught 1271 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:32,559 Speaker 1: a child how to be social, how to care, how 1272 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,960 Speaker 1: to share, and that's important in this day and time. 1273 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:41,600 Speaker 1: That foundational piece goes a long way in their preteens 1274 01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:45,240 Speaker 1: and their teens and their adulthood. It's so funny. My daughter, 1275 01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,640 Speaker 1: and she's one and a half. She has like I 1276 01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,760 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe twenty words or something like that, and 1277 01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:54,720 Speaker 1: one of them is mine, and I'm like, I'm like, 1278 01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,840 Speaker 1: this is such a class. She's the youngest and my 1279 01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:00,880 Speaker 1: son is more and a half, and they played together wonderfully, 1280 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,559 Speaker 1: and then sometimes they're fighting tooth and nail over a 1281 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,519 Speaker 1: fucking toy and she's screaming and he's screaming he had 1282 01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:10,000 Speaker 1: it first. She's taking it and going mine, and I'm like, 1283 01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,040 Speaker 1: get it, girl, I'm like get it. I'm like, you're 1284 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,120 Speaker 1: the baby in this family and you gotta like stand 1285 01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,360 Speaker 1: up for yourself, like go get yours, honey, like you 1286 01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,559 Speaker 1: want it too. I see you both wanted let's figure 1287 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,840 Speaker 1: this out. Okay, you can have it for five minutes, 1288 01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,439 Speaker 1: and then you can have it for five minutes and 1289 01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,680 Speaker 1: then it's over. And they like don't even want it 1290 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,040 Speaker 1: any anymore. And they go play with something else, right, 1291 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:31,960 Speaker 1: and and and the other thing you do is you 1292 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,720 Speaker 1: put the toy in time out. You don't put the 1293 01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,920 Speaker 1: child in time out. You go, okay, toy is bringing 1294 01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,880 Speaker 1: lots of conflict. There's a lot of energy around this toy. 1295 01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:43,920 Speaker 1: So you know what, the the toys get the time out. 1296 01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,920 Speaker 1: Let's play with something else. Oh that's a great idea, 1297 01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:51,600 Speaker 1: A great idea you mentioned from the podcast Squats and Margarita's. 1298 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,120 Speaker 1: This is so important, y'all that the tone of voice 1299 01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,120 Speaker 1: and consistently meaning business for a while is the main 1300 01:13:58,160 --> 01:13:59,840 Speaker 1: way that your kids can respect and listen to you. 1301 01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:03,479 Speaker 1: My son does not respect me. What are some what 1302 01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,280 Speaker 1: are some specific scenarios where you can try the right 1303 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:11,080 Speaker 1: tone and like the meaning business out you know, uh, 1304 01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,600 Speaker 1: so that the kids listen more. I think it all happened. 1305 01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:19,000 Speaker 1: It all happens in that foundation at home. You have 1306 01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,840 Speaker 1: to get on their level, like you have to explain 1307 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:28,400 Speaker 1: and is less words again, less is best your expectations, 1308 01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:33,120 Speaker 1: you know. And then when they are when you see 1309 01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,120 Speaker 1: that they are hearing, when they're listening, they need eye contact. 1310 01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 1: Your tone of voice needs to change when it's becoming 1311 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,960 Speaker 1: much more serious than what it was. And then they go, WHOA, 1312 01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:47,400 Speaker 1: mom has just moved to another level. I need to 1313 01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,280 Speaker 1: figure out what's going on with this person, you know, 1314 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:54,439 Speaker 1: And and it puts that fear that you want to 1315 01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:58,200 Speaker 1: help them to be respectful to something that could either 1316 01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:02,680 Speaker 1: this this life changing to them. So, um a scenario 1317 01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,679 Speaker 1: at home, it's like putting your hand on the stove. 1318 01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:10,559 Speaker 1: The stove is hot. You know, we do not touch 1319 01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:14,520 Speaker 1: a hot stove. You're in their face, you have eye contact. 1320 01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:18,000 Speaker 1: This will hurt you. And then when they come closer 1321 01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:21,840 Speaker 1: to it, it's a no, sir, this is a very 1322 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:26,880 Speaker 1: hot stove. Whoa daddy, Connie? That is good? What's the 1323 01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,920 Speaker 1: next level? Yes, so you moved to the next level. 1324 01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:34,000 Speaker 1: Because that hot stove can also be moving traffic. That 1325 01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:37,960 Speaker 1: hot stove can be the life in depth situation of 1326 01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,759 Speaker 1: someone picking them up when you said to stand right here. 1327 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,040 Speaker 1: So it's important for them to know when mom snapped 1328 01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:49,480 Speaker 1: her finger or she gave me that look, she meant business. 1329 01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:54,559 Speaker 1: So you have to find your business look, your business voice, 1330 01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,439 Speaker 1: and then you know that no, that wasn't my child, 1331 01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,640 Speaker 1: because now you're your child. I was best advocate and 1332 01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,640 Speaker 1: first advocate. Do you have like my husband? So I 1333 01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,720 Speaker 1: don't know why they fear him more than I do. 1334 01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,479 Speaker 1: I think every household, if you do have a household 1335 01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:16,400 Speaker 1: where there's parenting multiple forms, you know, whether it's the 1336 01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:21,760 Speaker 1: nanny too, you know, married couple, whatever it is. Um, 1337 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:26,080 Speaker 1: my husband's mean business like this means business voice is 1338 01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:33,280 Speaker 1: far more effective than mine, Like it sucks. Um, I 1339 01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:37,920 Speaker 1: reserve a huge no for something dangerous, whether it is 1340 01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:41,160 Speaker 1: a stove, we're running into a street, or he's going 1341 01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,599 Speaker 1: to really hurt his sister's body or something, or they're 1342 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:47,040 Speaker 1: playing in the bathtub and you know, I'm getting you know, 1343 01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:50,839 Speaker 1: if something is dangerous, it's a huge and they respond 1344 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,760 Speaker 1: to that. But my and I've really mastered the like 1345 01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,559 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Look? Like the look that's like 1346 01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,479 Speaker 1: do you want to reconsider how you just spoke to 1347 01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:03,559 Speaker 1: me as it is disrespectful and rude? Or did we 1348 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,519 Speaker 1: really just make our sister cry and pushed her over? 1349 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:10,000 Speaker 1: Like is that? Like? Uh? Now, my husband is if 1350 01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:13,200 Speaker 1: he's you're right, less is more. He says fewer words, 1351 01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:18,200 Speaker 1: there's less talking. His sternness and directness of his voice 1352 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,719 Speaker 1: is far quicker to be responded to, what the hell 1353 01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:26,080 Speaker 1: why it's not fair? You know what it is? I 1354 01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:31,920 Speaker 1: really I'm seeing more of it and and there's nothing 1355 01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:37,120 Speaker 1: against it. But I really feel like gentle parenting has 1356 01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:43,920 Speaker 1: made parents put the kabash on on using that that 1357 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:49,000 Speaker 1: sternness with their children. Besides all the other stuff of 1358 01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:53,360 Speaker 1: gifting our children everything, you know, and making them feel like, 1359 01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,559 Speaker 1: but I'm supposed to have, but you need to give 1360 01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,160 Speaker 1: this to me. But my friends got it and I 1361 01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,639 Speaker 1: can't do what I out it, you know, So all 1362 01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:06,760 Speaker 1: of that mentality that our children are or are drowning in. 1363 01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,920 Speaker 1: Then we go to the stage of gentle parenting. And 1364 01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying, now you know that cookie, you know you 1365 01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,000 Speaker 1: we're not going to have it right now, but you 1366 01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:22,240 Speaker 1: know and you and you keep just even you get 1367 01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:26,559 Speaker 1: exhausted with trying to gentle parent a damn cook when 1368 01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,599 Speaker 1: really what you're suggesting is no. And he says, why 1369 01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:31,360 Speaker 1: did it not? You say, because I said no, I'm 1370 01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:35,720 Speaker 1: not talking about anymore. No. No mean no, I I've 1371 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:39,040 Speaker 1: already said no. And I don't I say, like, you're right, 1372 01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:44,200 Speaker 1: I was, and I am drowning in gentle parenting. And 1373 01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,800 Speaker 1: when I've been pushed, and I don't want to talk 1374 01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,880 Speaker 1: about this ship anymore. The cookie, the dessert after dinner, 1375 01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,240 Speaker 1: the twenty more minutes of the show, whatever the funk 1376 01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:57,360 Speaker 1: it is. And I just say because I said so, no, 1377 01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:59,800 Speaker 1: that's it. We're done and I'm not discussing it. And 1378 01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:03,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it again. That's it. That's it, 1379 01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,639 Speaker 1: And that's where you're That's where your support staff has 1380 01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:09,880 Speaker 1: to be on the same page with you, you know, 1381 01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,120 Speaker 1: and then they will come up with fine, that's what 1382 01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna do it, you know, And you have to 1383 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:18,160 Speaker 1: be more um. You have to time yourself and you 1384 01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:20,360 Speaker 1: have to be come on now, come on, you know, 1385 01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,360 Speaker 1: because you want to be able to get to the 1386 01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:26,160 Speaker 1: next stage because a child doesn't know any other vice 1387 01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:30,519 Speaker 1: but to keep trying different tactics to get that cookie, yes, 1388 01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:35,160 Speaker 1: to get out that front door. What's one question you 1389 01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:41,040 Speaker 1: wish I'd asked you? Oh, my goodness, either from like 1390 01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,479 Speaker 1: working with a nanny as a parent, you know, what 1391 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:47,719 Speaker 1: was the question you'd wish I'd ask you about working 1392 01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:51,200 Speaker 1: as a nanny that I'm as a parent. From my perspective, 1393 01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:55,840 Speaker 1: the one question I wish people would ask is, um, 1394 01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:00,479 Speaker 1: do you feel drained as being that nanny the home 1395 01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:04,519 Speaker 1: after giving everything? How do you feel when you walk 1396 01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,920 Speaker 1: away from it? How do I know that I've done 1397 01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,839 Speaker 1: a good job. You know a lot of people always 1398 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:13,760 Speaker 1: talk about, yeah, the nanny, I had a nanny, but 1399 01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:18,479 Speaker 1: did that person really fulfill? And I always no one 1400 01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:20,840 Speaker 1: ever asked me how I feel, you know, when I 1401 01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,320 Speaker 1: walk away. A lot of them don't walk away from 1402 01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,879 Speaker 1: because they still are in touch with me. But you know, um, 1403 01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,680 Speaker 1: the one question I guess that was what asked me 1404 01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,960 Speaker 1: is like, how did that? How do you feel when 1405 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,960 Speaker 1: you walk away? Do you feel like you've you've succeeded 1406 01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,479 Speaker 1: in your in the journey of being with that family. 1407 01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:44,080 Speaker 1: And my answers always, um, I've walked away from some 1408 01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:48,439 Speaker 1: families because I felt like what I had to offer 1409 01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:52,080 Speaker 1: they weren't ready for or they weren't ready to receive, 1410 01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:57,000 Speaker 1: and and that I didn't need to be there. So 1411 01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:00,439 Speaker 1: I I said, I called it one of the the 1412 01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:06,000 Speaker 1: coolest things that my nanny, you know, when we were 1413 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,080 Speaker 1: in a little bit of a trial period in trying 1414 01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,760 Speaker 1: things on, you know, she was very much like, you know, 1415 01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm in a way trialing you as well, like because this. 1416 01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:21,160 Speaker 1: This is a real fit. Where are our styles similar? 1417 01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:25,400 Speaker 1: Do we get along? Do we communicate well? Do we 1418 01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:30,320 Speaker 1: do we trust each other? With that? We ask all 1419 01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:34,439 Speaker 1: of our guests this question. Please finish this sentence, Nanny Connie, 1420 01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:41,280 Speaker 1: parenthood is the biggest job of your life that will 1421 01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:48,840 Speaker 1: never ever have a finished line. That's a very a 1422 01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:55,880 Speaker 1: wonderful answer. So pace yourself, listeners, pace yourself. That's right, 1423 01:21:56,439 --> 01:22:00,000 Speaker 1: Nanny Connie. Thank you so much for being on Katie's 1424 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:04,719 Speaker 1: Crib and for sharing your wisdom. Everyone. Oh my pleasure. Everyone, 1425 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,320 Speaker 1: go get the book. Follow her on Instagram so that 1426 01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:09,400 Speaker 1: you can be up to date on these awesome things 1427 01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,559 Speaker 1: that are hopefully coming out here. It is Nanny Connie Way, 1428 01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:17,040 Speaker 1: The Nanny Connie Way. People. You are a gift. You're 1429 01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:26,760 Speaker 1: a gift to parenting. Thank you for having me. Thank 1430 01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:28,960 Speaker 1: you guys so much for listening to today's episode. I 1431 01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:33,440 Speaker 1: want to hear from you. Let's chat questions, comments, concerns. 1432 01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,080 Speaker 1: Let me know. You can always find me at Katie's 1433 01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:41,519 Speaker 1: Crib at Shanda land dot com. Katie's Crib is a 1434 01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,599 Speaker 1: production of Shonda Land Audio in partnership with I Heart Radio. 1435 01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,439 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from Shandoland, audio visit the I heart 1436 01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,080 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your 1437 01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:50,799 Speaker 1: favorite shows.