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Speaker 3: You know, I got to thinking Victor woman Yama kind

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Speaker 3: You know, maybe, just maybe Britney Spears had a point,

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Speaker 3: the point I've been making the last twelve years. The

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Speaker 3: Tussons for the NBA. Go to a game, hang around.

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Speaker 3: You will see NBA luminaries past. He saw at your

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Speaker 3: in future, past, present and future. No event quite like it.

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Speaker 3: And I mean that, And so we know that the

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Speaker 3: Talk of the World tonight is Victor Wimbam Yama And

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Speaker 3: let me let me just tell you what I think

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Speaker 3: right out of the gate. Okay, terrific handles. You already

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Speaker 3: knew that unreal wingspan probably thirty forty feet. Great vision,

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Speaker 3: good pastor, good instincts. I think for a nineteen year old,

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Speaker 3: lot of great debuts. Zion four years ago had a

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Speaker 3: League is like a fickle beast. You know, you drafted.

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Speaker 3: with athletes, entertainers, luminaries, presidents, everybody. I didn't ask to

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Speaker 3: Twitter somewhere the night Lonzo Ball made his debut. He

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Speaker 3: Yet I see in Victor Wibin Yama skilled, Yes, not

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Speaker 3: You're going to see again, all sorts of luminaries around there,

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Speaker 3: Scoot Henderson, they'll all be there, right, They're gonna that.

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Speaker 3: Good evening, Jason. How are you.

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Speaker 1: Doing well?

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Speaker 4: Bernie sent you all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking forward to having you on this season.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff, and I want to start in Buffalo. It's

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Speaker 5: To a certain degree, this situation is extremely complicated because

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Speaker 4: I do think it's something that is worth.

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Speaker 3: Better interesting now I know, if I'm not mistaken, Diggs

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Speaker 5: It's just a matter of the record at this point

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Speaker 4: The kind of money that DeAndre Howkins does. So for

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Speaker 5: But that's the situation is for all these other players.

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Speaker 3: multiple modalities and the founder of the Leap. Coming up,

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Speaker 3: but first, just go back to our guy. We'll never

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Speaker 3: trade him either. It's fit Kevin figures with the latest.

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Speaker 7: All right, Bernie late baseball action from Friday night. You

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Speaker 7: at the Mets, scoring four runs in the top of

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Speaker 7: the tenth. They beat the Padres seven to five for

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Speaker 7: their sixth consecutive win. Dodgers hit four home runs, including

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Speaker 7: two from Mookie Betts, and in eleven to four victory

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Speaker 7: over the Angels. Zach Gallin struck out five and seven

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Speaker 7: innings of work for Arizona. They beat the Pirates seven

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Speaker 7: to three. Giants have lost five of their last six.

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Speaker 7: After a five to two Rockies win in San Francisco,

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Speaker 7: it was the Mariners ten and the Astros one. The

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Speaker 7: Brewers are a game behind the Reds in the NL

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Speaker 7: Central after picking up a seven to three victory over Cincinnati,

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Speaker 7: cub shout out the Yankees three nothing. You had wins

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Speaker 7: for Baltimore, the Red Sox, and the Blue Jays at

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Speaker 7: the NBA Summer League spores four victor win. Bin Yama

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Speaker 7: scored nine points on just two of thirteen shooting in

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Speaker 7: a victory over Charlotte. Rookie Brandon Miller for the Hornet

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Speaker 7: scored fifteen points and grabbed eleven boards or I should

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Speaker 7: say had six assists. Elsewhere, Scooed Henerson scored fifteen points

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Speaker 7: for Portland. A man Thompson scored sixteen points with four

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Speaker 7: block shots for Houston. It turned out to be a

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Speaker 7: one hundred to ninety nine Rockets victory. All right, back

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Speaker 7: to Bernie Freddo.

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks a lot there, buddy. One of remind folks.

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Speaker 3: to the Angels, the California Anaheim Angels of the Western

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Speaker 3: Heminary Hemisphere Universe in their twenty twenty three season is that.

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Speaker 3: For too long now people have speculated that shohe Atani

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Speaker 3: might be wearing a different uniforms as soon as August

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Speaker 3: or September. That's a real fear among some people, and

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Speaker 3: some of the narrative to me is stupid. He's getting

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Speaker 3: a little older. He's yet to sniff the playoffs. No,

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Speaker 3: you do not trade a player of Otani's ilk, of

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Speaker 3: Otani's importance, of Otani's you know, character, talent ability, You

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Speaker 3: do not do that. Why Number one, an owner is

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Speaker 3: obligated to put the best, the most competitive, the most

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Speaker 3: entertaining team on the field put butts in seats? How

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Speaker 3: do you do that without Shohyotani. And by the way,

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Speaker 3: in this man's Major League Baseball and this man's MLB

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Speaker 3: playoff format, if you're merely five hundred on Labor Day,

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Speaker 3: you're very much in the hunt. You don't think the

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Speaker 3: Angels can at least be around five hundred on Labor Day.

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Speaker 3: Let's keep in mind, shoe Yotani is only twenty nine

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Speaker 3: years old, he's entering his prime, He's got many serviceable

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Speaker 3: years left, and the Angels got him in a bargain.

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Speaker 3: You don't let a be Ruthian legend get away for

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Speaker 3: any price. The man does two jobs, and he's an

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Speaker 3: historical talent, so he unit. For whatever reason the Angels

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Speaker 3: fall short this year, you continue to build around. And

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Speaker 3: let's not forget this is show business. People forget that

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Speaker 3: not only does sho hel Tani put on a show nightly,

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Speaker 3: including the fact Otani has a legitimate chance to pass

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Speaker 3: Man Maris and Aaron Judge this season by hitting sixty

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Speaker 3: three home runs. You want him to do that in

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Speaker 3: another uniform. And remember, winning is the best entertainment Otani

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Speaker 3: gives the Angels the best chance to win. You're gonna

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Speaker 3: try to get a haul like the like Washington got

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Speaker 3: last year for their star. Who's in toilet in San Diego? Now,

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Speaker 3: how's that working out for San Diego? The future is now.

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Speaker 3: The future is now. Trout will be back. He'll be

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Speaker 3: back in six eight weeks. Rendon, Anthony Rendon paging Anthony Rendon, Hey,

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Speaker 3: feel free to step up this season. The season is

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Speaker 3: not lost. Moving show hal Tani would be an all

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Speaker 3: time mistake. Now I get it. It seems a little

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Speaker 3: weird to think Otani's actually won a world championship in

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Speaker 3: one tournament with Japan, the World Baseball Classic, even struck

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Speaker 3: out Mike Chapte in the game before even landing one

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Speaker 3: playoff berth with the Angels alongside the other superstar, Mike Trout.

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Speaker 3: And when you consider that teams like the Dodgers and

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Speaker 3: the Mets and other big franchises, well, they all have

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Speaker 3: assets to hand out. Yes, you would be tempted. Shohei

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Speaker 3: Otani will have a lot of bidders. However, if you

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Speaker 3: believe Ari Moreno, even though he has been somewhat unreliable

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Speaker 3: in the past, Moreno has been firm on the fact

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Speaker 3: that he's not going to take any phone calls on

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Speaker 3: Otani if the postseason is still within reach once the

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Speaker 3: deadline comes up. So now Otani's got a blister, he

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Speaker 3: can't pitch for ten days. He can hit you know,

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Speaker 3: home running night Friday night, he's still playing, just can't

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Speaker 3: pitch for ten days. And then Mike Trout gets hurt

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Speaker 3: and he had successful surgery that they always say it's successful,

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Speaker 3: but I would suspicion you'll see Trot back by September

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Speaker 3: one for the stretch one run, maybe even a little sooner,

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Speaker 3: but I would say by September one. In the meantime,

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Speaker 3: you build, you continue to fortify, if you can look

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Speaker 3: into your farm system, maybe instead the trade line, instead

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Speaker 3: of being sellers, your buyers, and you do what you

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Speaker 3: can do to pick up somebody to help this Angel team.

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Speaker 3: Just get the five hundred. But if the Angels, if

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Speaker 3: they give it everything they got and they make the postseason,

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Speaker 3: and this is something they haven't done since twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 3: then that kind of answers the question. Then it becomes

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Speaker 3: an no burnner. You're not going to trade Otani. The

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Speaker 3: biggest knock on LA during the tia Era, frankly has

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Speaker 3: been The folks have been critical that the Angels really

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Speaker 3: haven't surrounded him with good talent so they can extend

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Speaker 3: their season. Well, this past season they did that. They

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Speaker 3: brought in on a renfro Gi or Schella and Anthony

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Speaker 3: Rendon was healthy until the other day. But those guys

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Speaker 3: have to do their job as well. You can't put

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Speaker 3: it all on Altani. You cannot trade Otani. I don't

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Speaker 3: understand how the Angels are better. The future is now.

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Speaker 3: Are you really going to move Atani and get this

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Speaker 3: incredible haul and then send a message to your fan base, well,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna be here a while, you know, not gonna

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Speaker 3: win it this year, not gonna win it next year.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you know, maybe Mark here cowns for twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: eight when the A's moved to Vegas or something. I

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Speaker 3: don't think people want to hear that Nanaheim anymore. The

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Speaker 3: future is now. The owner is obligated to put the best,

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Speaker 3: most competitive, most entertaining team on the field. Put bunts

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Speaker 3: in seats. You do that way better with a Tani.

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Speaker 3: The Angels are not out of the playoffs by any stretch.

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Speaker 3: Just be five hundred and Labor Day. The man's twenty

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Speaker 3: nine years old, he's entering his prime. He's got at

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Speaker 3: least five to seven years minimum left in front of him,

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Speaker 3: more probably ten. And you're you want to be that

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Speaker 3: guy to let Otani do go pre prematurely again. Finally,

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Speaker 3: this is show business, man. You can't forget the fact

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Speaker 3: that it's show business. So Tani puts on a show

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Speaker 3: every night. And you know he's got what thirty four

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Speaker 3: home runs? Now, whatever the case may be, let's not

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Speaker 3: split hairs. It's not inconceivable. It's not inconceivable that he

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Speaker 3: makes a real run at Aaron Judges record this year.

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Speaker 3: And you don't think that's good for the Angels franchise.

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Speaker 3: This is a long suffering franchise. Finally got to the

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Speaker 3: playoffs in seventy nine, the Yes we Can team lost

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Speaker 3: to Baltimore, got eighty two, blew it against the Milwaukee Brewers.

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Speaker 3: You saw what happen in eighty six with did the

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Speaker 3: Dave Henderson home run? Finally, in two thousand and two

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Speaker 3: they got over the ham unreal great story. The Rally

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Speaker 3: Monkey team been twenty one years since then. That team

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Speaker 3: started slow. Do not trade Shohey Otani. By the way

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Speaker 3: you play a certain position, maybe that's your life's lament.

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Speaker 3: We'll share a quick reality picking up on what Jason

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Speaker 3: Hershorn said. Coming up, I'm Bernie Frattle. Were coming to

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Speaker 3: you live from Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio tyrack dot

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Speaker 3: com studios. Keep it locked right here. You're listening to

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Speaker 3: the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: They're back on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 3: Comedy live from the tirerac dot com studios here in

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Speaker 3: Las Vegas. Come up top of the hour, Ethan. I'll

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Speaker 3: have an announcement and we're going to get into a

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Speaker 3: couple of developments in the NBA this week. Now that

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Speaker 3: the CBA has been ratified the year, there are two

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Speaker 3: interesting announcements, one having to do with the rule change,

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Speaker 3: another one having to do with well you'll hear about it.

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Speaker 3: They're taking a page out of international soccer. Not everybody's enthralled,

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Speaker 3: but they'll watch it just to put a caper. And

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Speaker 3: what we were talking about with Jason Herschel, we kind

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Speaker 3: of glossed over it. If Josh Jacob so the Raiders

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Speaker 3: played any other position than when he plays, he would

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Speaker 3: have made a case this offseason to be maybe the

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Speaker 3: highest paid player in the NFL. He not only led

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Speaker 3: the league in rushing yards in twenty twenty two. It

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Speaker 3: really sort of was a rebound retort when the Raiders

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Speaker 3: declined his eight million dollar option for this season back

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Speaker 3: in May of twenty twenty two, and then he played

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Speaker 3: in the first he played in the Hall of Fame game,

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Speaker 3: which was unheard of. But Jacobs is a running back

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Speaker 3: and he's rewarded for the twenty twenty two performance, will

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Speaker 3: most likely be a ten million dollars franchise tag for

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. Same situation Saquon Barkley. They're both front

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Speaker 3: and center in what we call this NFL news cycle,

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Speaker 3: and they're going to be for the next ten days.

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Speaker 3: July seventeenth is the deadline for franchise tag players, and

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Speaker 3: that means they've gotten till July seventeenth to sign long

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Speaker 3: term deals with their teams, and if they don't by then,

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Speaker 3: well then after July seventeenth, neither Josh Jacobs nor Saquon

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Speaker 3: Barkley or any other player who could is eligibly be

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Speaker 3: franchised this year. They can't discuss long term extensions with

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Speaker 3: their teams until after their twenty twenty three season ens.

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Speaker 3: Now normally teams negotiations with franchise tag players. I kind

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Speaker 3: And do I think that should happen and could happen

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Speaker 3: with Jacobs and Barkley? Yeah? I do. That doesn't just

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Speaker 3: because they restart talks doesn't guarantee they're gonna reach a deal.

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Speaker 3: And it's entirely possible that both Josh Jacobs and Saquon

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Speaker 3: Barkley are gonna have to decide whether they're willing to

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Speaker 3: accept one year tender or then here's where it gets sticky.

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Speaker 3: You sit out training camp, and then do you have

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Speaker 3: the koyonis to sit out regular season games and protest?

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Speaker 3: I think that'd be a mistake. Channel your own inner

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Speaker 3: Le'Veon bell here, how'd that work out for him? By

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Speaker 3: the way, Tony Pollard, running back in Dallas, is also franchised,

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Speaker 3: but unlike Jacobs and Bartley, he signed his franchise tender.

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Speaker 3: He seems Okay, he's gonna play out the season at

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Speaker 3: and you can't really say Pollard has the same track

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Speaker 3: not the only ones now. By the way, this is

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Speaker 3: an interesting wrinkle. Neither the Raiders nor the Giants can

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Speaker 3: find Jacobs or Barkley if they miss camp, if they

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Speaker 3: don't tell any franchise tenders. So if they don't get

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Speaker 3: at the start a camp. I just don't. Sitting out

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Speaker 3: the season is the one threat that gives you leverage.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know that they'll do them much good.

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Speaker 3: They'll just be back in the same position they were

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Speaker 3: a year from now. So what happens next, Well, might

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Speaker 3: there be other teams interested? I don't know. It's a guess,

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Speaker 3: and I'm not you know, the world is a what

645
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Speaker 3: I would consider to be a vexing enough place without

646
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: trying to get into hypotheticals. This was not lost on me.

647
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: I talked about Victor woman Yama at the top of

648
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Speaker 3: the show. And this is just crazy. What's trending on Twitter?

649
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 3: Do you remember Sean Bradley, the seven foot five player

650
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 3: out of BYU number two player picked overall in nineteen

651
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Speaker 3: ninety three. There are people on Twitter thanks to one game,

652
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: one game in the Summer League, being comparing him to

653
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Speaker 3: Sean Bradley. When guy says, people being awfully tough on

654
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Speaker 3: Wenby after one Summer League game and breaking out the

655
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 3: Sean Bradley comparisons. If it doesn't play well again on Sunday,

656
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Speaker 3: we're gonna start hearing his the next Chuck Nevitt Google

657
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: that one. Another tall, skinny guy who, of course he

658
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 3: played with the Pistons for years in the Lakers. Another

659
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 3: gentleman chimes in, I can't believe the Spurs passed up

660
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Speaker 3: on the best player in the draft so they could

661
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 3: draft the French Sean Bradley. And then there are memes

662
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: here when Derek Fisher, who's about a foot shorter than

663
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Speaker 3: Sean Bradley, dunked on Sean Bradley. And of course remember

664
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Speaker 3: when when Minyama got dunked on tonight, right, I'm hearing

665
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 3: that when Minyama is just a bag at Sean Bradley. Unfortunately,

666
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 3: you notice the the the French comparisons in the French,

667
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Speaker 3: you know, is Sean Bradley trending because when it was hired,

668
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 3: Goon's roughed up Christina Aguilera. Look, it's crazy, you wander

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Speaker 3: some of these people that start trending, uh you know,

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Speaker 3: uh uh maybe they got into Grandpa's cough ser up. Okay,

671
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 3: so again, let's just watch this. This is what fans do. Uh,

672
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Speaker 3: you know, I would just say that when everybody overreacts,

673
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 3: people will react. But again, my take is this what

674
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Speaker 3: I saw tonight was a kid with pretty good handles,

675
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: very good handles, an unreal wingspan, great vision, very good passer.

676
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Speaker 3: Look to pass a lot, you know, and he's gonna

677
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Speaker 3: have to be a little more aggressive, I think. But

678
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Speaker 3: give it. Give him years to develop because it's gonna

679
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 3: take years. He showed good instincts, he showed maturity. The

680
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: biggest issue. He's not strong at all. He got knocked

681
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: off his balance, he got knocked off his you know,

682
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 3: pins multiple times while he was in traffic tonight. He's

683
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Speaker 3: no Zion. He didn't have any kind of debut like

684
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Speaker 3: Devin Booker did or Damian Lillard or Andrew Wiggins. But

685
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 3: you know he's an attraction. I mean, interestingly enough. Britney Spears,

686
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 3: a star for twenty years, wanted his autograph, wanted her

687
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 3: picture taken with him. So there's a reason courts outs

688
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 3: each we're twelve hundred to night because we all want

689
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: to see what's going to happen, all right, but there

690
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: has to be some objectivity. There are objective truths and

691
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 3: personal feelings right now, a lot of personal feelings are

692
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Speaker 3: coming out. I think you got to give him time.

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Speaker 3: Coming up, Eaton makes an announcement. Plus, the NBA has

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Speaker 3: got two announcements. I'm Bernie Frattle. Keep it locked you

695
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Speaker 3: listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show Fox Sports Radio. That's right,

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Speaker 3: you heard demand that Bernie Fraddle Show keeps for rolling

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Speaker 3: right along. My name is Bernie Frattle. Wher coming you

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Speaker 3: announcements this week, one which would be finalized Saturday night

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Speaker 3: here in Las Vegas, NBA dot Com four thirty Pacific time,

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Speaker 3: seven thirty Eastern. I'm going to get to both of

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Speaker 3: those in a minute, but first, Ethan Miller has an

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Speaker 3: important announcement.

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Speaker 8: All right, Bernie, it was great having the first ever

709
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Speaker 8: Bernie backyard bunking bets, and we do have a winner.

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Speaker 8: It was announced on Twitter on Tuesday, but we know

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Speaker 8: everybody doesn't have Twitter. So our winner was Poppy from

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Speaker 8: San Diego. Poppy from San Diego. So Poppy ended up

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Speaker 8: getting fourteen hundred points.

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Speaker 3: Little un of a play Poppy somewhere.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, what do we got Mark?

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Speaker 3: We got it, Mark, markle pulled some and.

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Speaker 1: Mark's got it.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, Poppy won and he finished with fourteen hundred points,

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Speaker 8: and behind him was A Day from Phoenix with thirteen

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Speaker 8: hundred points, and then Brandon from Hawaii had a great comeback.

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Speaker 8: He started off pretty slow and he ended up with

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Speaker 8: eleven hundred points. So the charger and the speaker and

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Speaker 8: the headphones are on its way to Poppy, and we

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Speaker 8: thank everybody for playing and very exciting.

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Speaker 1: News we go. That's for you, Poppy, shout out to

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Speaker 1: Mark for that one.

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Speaker 3: All right, So, by the way, before you get to

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Speaker 3: our announcement for next Friday, Ethan, it should be noted

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Speaker 3: and you did a great job well every stat you

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Speaker 3: can imagine on the updates, take note, Poppy called in

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Speaker 3: nine of the twelve weeks. He was very persistent. His

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Speaker 3: persistence paid off, and we take six calls every week.

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Speaker 3: We open the phone lines at eleven forty five pm

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Speaker 3: Pacific two forty five am Eastern, So anticipate that, be

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Speaker 3: ready to roll because clearly those extra calls and you know,

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Speaker 3: you still got to get your trivia right and get

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Speaker 3: your bets right. But if you have nine shots out

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Speaker 3: of it instead of six, it only stands to reason, right,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna have a better shadow winning. So go on, Ethan.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, that's a great point. Thanks for pointing that out.

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Speaker 8: You definitely don't want to miss if you can make it,

742
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Speaker 8: definitely make it. You know, we had certain guys who

743
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Speaker 8: called in the first seven weeks and you know, are

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Speaker 8: at the leaderboard and then you know, more guys called

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Speaker 8: in and it ended up falling off. So you know,

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Speaker 8: you just got to stay consistent with it. If you're

747
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Speaker 8: just trying to get in it one or two times.

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Speaker 8: That's fine too. We love we love having everybody call in.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, we're gonna end up doing this for another

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Speaker 8: twelve weeks, starting next Friday. This will take us into

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Speaker 8: the football season towards the end of October early November,

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Speaker 8: I think we said, and yeah, it'll be really exciting.

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00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 8: We'll have NFL games to pick from and on the

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Speaker 8: betting wise, and we'll have a lot more trivia and

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00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 8: you'll have opportunities to win more points, and it'll be

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Speaker 8: it'll be a good experience and we're excited to do

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Speaker 8: it again.

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Speaker 3: All right, good stuff, ethan. So there you have it.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations to Poppy, and next Friday, July fourteenth, we will

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Speaker 3: once again renew Round two twelve weeks Bernie's Trivia Game,

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Speaker 3: Backyard Bunkin' Bets. All right, some more announcements here. So

762
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Speaker 3: it looks like the NBA is heading to Las Vegas

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Speaker 3: for what they are calling an n season tournament. I

764
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Speaker 3: know Adam Silver, he's wanted to do this for years.

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Speaker 3: He likes it. They do it in soccer. And you'll

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Speaker 3: hear details on the inaugural tournament and how they's semi

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00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: finals and finals December ninth or December seventh and ninth.

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00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 3: You'll hear details Saturday night. They're gonna unveil group drawings

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Speaker 3: and the competitive structure and the locations Saturday night on

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Speaker 3: ESPN four thirty Pacific. It'd be done, I think right

771
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 3: here in Las Vegas Live. And what's happening is the

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Speaker 3: NBA their new CBA, which went into effect July. First.

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Speaker 3: They laid out several parameters for what they're calling an

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Speaker 3: n season tournament. And you're gonna have a group stage

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Speaker 3: that'll divide each conference. You have fifteen teams into three

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Speaker 3: groups of five. Each will play the other four once

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Speaker 3: and then the records from the prior season will determine

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Speaker 3: group placement, and each will include a team that finished first, third, fourth, sixth, seventh, ninth, tenth, twelfth,

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Speaker 3: and thirteenth and fifteenth. Then you have the six group

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Speaker 3: winners and a wildcard team from each conference that'll be

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Speaker 3: chosen from the best group play record. Without winning, they

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Speaker 3: will advance to the eight teams, single nation, single elimination

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Speaker 3: knockout stage, and after the first knockout round, you get

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Speaker 3: a final four. Those games are going to be played

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Speaker 3: here in Las Vegas. Interestingly enough, they choose Thursday, December seventh,

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Speaker 3: and it's an NFL night and in Sunday, December ninth.

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Speaker 3: Might be that as it may. Let's see how this

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Speaker 3: plays out. Right, the other twenty two teams they'll play

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Speaker 3: two additional regular season games during the knockout stage. The

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Speaker 3: four teams that lose in the first round of the

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Speaker 3: knockout stage they play one extra regular season game during

792
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Speaker 3: the same period. Now, all stats will count toward the

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Speaker 3: regular season except for the championship game of the n

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00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 3: season tournament. Why because that would technically be in the

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Speaker 3: eighty third game. And by the way, both ESPN and

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Speaker 3: T and T have stepped up. They're expected to broadcast

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Speaker 3: this year's tournament. And I think the media rights could

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Speaker 3: draw more interest if, in fact, you know, the tournament

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Speaker 3: goes well and it's well received. But I you know,

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Speaker 3: there's a curiosity factor to this, okay, and I think

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00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 3: again you're gonna get by the way, this is something

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Speaker 3: I left out right. Players for the tournament champion will

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Speaker 3: each RECEIE five hundred thousand dollars. That's not something to

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Speaker 3: sneeze at. So there will be more details Saturday. There's

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Speaker 3: an event going here in Las Vegas at the manually

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00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 3: be called NBA dot com con Con. I did a

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Speaker 3: little tweet I got my credential web it said, first

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Speaker 3: time an event in Vegas. That is sort of a

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Speaker 3: big promotion for the League of Basketball Comic Con. If

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Speaker 3: you've ever been to Comic Con, this is NBA Con

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Speaker 3: And it's just adjacent to the summer league and the tournament,

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Speaker 3: which will be discussed at length at NBA Con Saturday night.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna mimic kind of those of European soccer and

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Speaker 3: basketball leagues. You pit the top teams against each other.

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Speaker 3: You get a mid season prize. It's a foreign concept

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00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 3: for us, believe me, but it will prioritize and the

817
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 3: season championships is the only prize of matter. I get it.

818
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 3: But hey, the the WNBA also holds what they call

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Speaker 3: n Season Commissioner's Cup competition. And you know, these are

820
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Speaker 3: leagues evolved. We do look at look at all the

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Speaker 3: rule changes in baseball this year. Right. So Adam Silver,

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Speaker 3: he's long been a proponent of this idea. He thinks

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Speaker 3: that answering intrigue. Certainly, let's not get mixed up all

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Speaker 3: the money it adds revenue. Sometimes the NBA season can

825
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Speaker 3: get long and get monotonous. We're all tired of you know,

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Speaker 3: load management as it were. But now Silver gets his wish.

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Speaker 3: We know there's going to be skeptics. There were skeptics

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Speaker 3: in the bubble, There were skeptics of you know, the

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Speaker 3: playing game. But these are ideas now that are becoming normalized, right,

830
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Speaker 3: and so Silver has a chance to prove his skeptics wrong.

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Speaker 3: And if this gains traction, it could change perhaps the

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Speaker 3: American sports landscape. I'm not saying. And baseball is gonna

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Speaker 3: doing like this, And I don't know how the NFL would,

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Speaker 3: maybe the NHL, I don't know, but it's it's happening

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Speaker 3: and will it will take place this year and you'll

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Speaker 3: see when the schedules come out. And again we're gonna

837
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Speaker 3: talk about this on a Saturday Night show because all

838
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 3: the details, filling in the blanks and the things we

839
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Speaker 3: don't know are going to be revealed Saturday night, all right.

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Speaker 3: The second announcement is that the NBA flopping rule, there's

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Speaker 3: not going to be an anti flopping penalty, and it's

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00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 3: currently being applied in summer league games. So if you

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Speaker 3: hate flopping as much as the rest of us do.

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Speaker 3: We've got some good news, and the NBA has some

845
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 3: good news. During this year's Summer League games, the NBA

846
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 3: is going to incorporate an in game flopping penalty because

847
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 3: they want to limit these instances their embellishment. It's stupid.

848
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Speaker 3: They showed have won a Lebron back in twenty eleven,

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Speaker 3: terrible flop, and then he has the audacity to go

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Speaker 3: on a you know, press game post conferences. No, no

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Speaker 3: two I've ever been on. We don't flop. No, you

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Speaker 3: flop a lot. They didn't catch them all on video,

853
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Speaker 3: but you flopped a lot. And it's unclear. Now see

854
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 3: here's the thing. I only get ahead of my skis here.

855
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 3: It's unclear if the LEAD is going to approve the

856
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 3: rule change for this upcoming season, but the NBA's Board

857
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 3: of Governors is going to vote later this month on

858
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 3: adding this penalty during regular season games. So here's how

859
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 3: the rule works. Here are the latest details the NBA

860
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 3: wants to eliminate flopping. And again, first of all, July

861
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 3: fourth is when the NBA did announce that the flopping

862
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 3: penalty would be effect It's kind of like a provisional

863
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 3: for all summer league games. But this is their explanation. One.

864
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 3: If an official the termins that a player has flopped,

865
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Speaker 3: the opposing team will be awarded one free throw m

866
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 3: The player who has flopped will be assessed a non

867
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 3: unsportsmanlike technical file. It will not come as a personal

868
00:49:54,520 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 3: foul or lead to an ejection. An official does not

869
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 3: have to stop live play in order to call a

870
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 3: flopping violation. This one's interesting to me. So you may flop.

871
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 3: Play continues, next whistle, the official weights, then there's a

872
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 3: neutral opportunity, he makes the call, goes back and makes

873
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 3: the call. Were there ever any you know NBA previous

874
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 3: flopping rules, Well, actually could be told. This isn't the

875
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 3: first time the NBA has attempted to target floppers. Back

876
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 3: in twenty twelve, the league introduced anti flopping fines that

877
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 3: pen lines repeat defenders. Here's how what they did then,

878
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 3: violation one A warning, A violation two of five thousand

879
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 3: dollars fine, third violation ten thousand, fourth violation of fifteen

880
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 3: thousand dollars fine, fifth violation a thirty thousand dollars fine,

881
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 3: six and above from finding a possible suspension. All that

882
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 3: time officials they were not able to make rulings or

883
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 3: flopping during games, the league would determine whether a player

884
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 3: had flopped because what they would do is do a

885
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 3: video review. All right, now, I realized this is somewhat subjective.

886
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 3: We all know what a flop looks like most of

887
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 3: the time, but every now and then a guy gets trucked.

888
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 3: You know, the old flop. You know, charge versus versus block.

889
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 3: But here's what's interesting that the NBA has actually put

890
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 3: in print and actually formulated and annotated their definition of flopping.

891
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 3: Here's what it is. Quote. A flop quote is an

892
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 3: attempt to either full referees into calling undeserved files or

893
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 3: full fans into thinking the referees missed a foul call

894
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 3: by exaggerating the effect of contact with an opposing player. Now,

895
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 3: the main factor in determining whether a player committed a

896
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 3: flop is whether it's physical reaction to contact with another

897
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 3: player is consistent with what it would have been, you know, expected,

898
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 3: given the force, the direction, the nature of the contact. Right.

899
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 3: For example, a player will be considered to have committed

900
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 3: a flop quote if he falls onto the floor following

901
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 3: minimal contact or lunges in a direction different from the

902
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 3: direction of the contact that happens, and usually it sticks

903
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 3: out like a sore thump. So I'm curious to see

904
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 3: how this happened, how this is facilitated during the summer league,

905
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 3: and the referees will have some practice and not observing it,

906
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 3: and the players will get you know, have an idea

907
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 3: to observe it, and hopefully it approves the quality of

908
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 3: the game, because flopping is bad. It's we've had enough

909
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 3: of it. Coming up, we're going to see what the

910
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 3: crew thinks about the flop and the new regular or

911
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 3: the new in season tournament where they're calling it a

912
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 3: you know, a mid season tournament, but pually just an

913
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 3: in season tournament. The season starts like November first, five

914
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 3: weeks later they're going to start this tournament. And again

915
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 3: we'll get more details Saturday night. But it's something worth watching.

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00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 3: It'll be a revenue generator for the NBA and an

917
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 3: attention getter. The question is will it work. I kind

918
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 3: of got a funny feeling it might have a novelty effect.

919
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 3: I really do like kind of like to play in tournament.

920
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944
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Speaker 3: Couple of big announcements in the NBA once been leaked.

945
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Speaker 3: You'll get more details Saturday night, four thirty Pacific here

946
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Speaker 3: at NBA con. Let's start with that one. So the

947
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 3: NBA is heading for an N season tournament, the finals

948
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 3: December seventh and ninth here in Las Vegas. Kevin figures,

949
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 3: what do you think of this whole concept?

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Speaker 1: Come at me again there, Bernie. I'm so sorry I

951
00:54:59,040 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 1: was recording something.

952
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 3: So the NBA is heading to Las Vegas for the

953
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Speaker 3: finals of a of an N season tournament, and it's

954
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Speaker 3: something out Adam Silver's wanted to do for a while,

955
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 3: taking a page from European soccer, and now that the

956
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 3: CBA is ratified, ready to go. What do you think

957
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 3: of the concept of this N season tournament that the

958
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Speaker 3: NBA is going to put forth.

959
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 7: I don't like it, and I don't think it makes

960
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 7: a whole lot of sense because I don't believe there's

961
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 7: actually actually a tangible reward for a players, and I

962
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Speaker 7: believe the pot is what one hundred grand or something

963
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 7: like that. Maybe I think maybe even a million dollars.

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00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 3: Well, it's if you get to the championship game, the

965
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 3: players all get five hundred grand okay winner and losers

966
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 3: team but go ahead, which is certainly not you know,

967
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 3: chump change.

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00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 7: And especially for the rank and file in the NBA,

969
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 7: for the great majority of these players, that's you know,

970
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 7: that's not much for them. And from a fan standpoint,

971
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 7: you know, there's not really a whole lot that they're

972
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 7: getting out of this. To be honest with you, are

973
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 7: you going to hang a banner for mid season tournament champions?

974
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 7: I mean, if unless there's some sort of incentive when

975
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 7: it comes to draft compensation or being able to move

976
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 7: up or down, whatever it might be. I just don't

977
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 7: think that just making an arbitrary tournament to have middle

978
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 7: of the season really makes a whole lot of sense.

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00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 7: And as a fan of the game, and other people

980
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 7: I've spoken to are also fans of the game, they

981
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 7: just don't think that this is not going to incentivize

982
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 7: them to want to watch the NBA more because there's

983
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 7: a tournament midseason that really doesn't have a tangible reward

984
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 7: for the fans.

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Speaker 3: And therein lies the ideology behind why are they doing this?

986
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 3: Two things. It is going to generate revenue for the league,

987
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 3: even got a TV deal for it. But the other

988
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 3: thing too, is is that the NBA, until you get

989
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:44,959
Speaker 3: until the Super Bowls over, the NBA season appears long.

990
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 3: It feels long and mundane, and this is supposed to

991
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 3: break that up. I don't know if that works or

992
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 3: not in that fashion. Ethan, what are your thoughts on

993
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 3: the NBA N Season Tournament.

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00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 8: I personally don't like it. I think it's they're just

995
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 8: trying to do too much the league. I think they

996
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 8: were just like, oh, how can we, you know, make

997
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 8: the fans happy, and they thought this would be a

998
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 8: good idea, and I just don't think the fans are

999
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Speaker 8: going to buy into it. I don't think they're gonna

1000
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 8: get as many viewers as they think, especially because it's

1001
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 8: during the football season on a Thursday night, which is crazy.

1002
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 8: So I don't think this lasts for more than a year.

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00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 3: But we'll see. It will be interesting. I think the

1004
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 3: tailtale will be how many eyeballs do come and will

1005
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 3: know whether or not the media rights and whether or

1006
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 3: not T and T or ESPN want to continue. All right,

1007
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 3: let's take a look at the second announcement. None of

1008
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 3: us like flopping. I don't know if you guys had

1009
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 3: a chance to hear what the NB is doing in

1010
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 3: the summer League and what defines a flop and what

1011
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 3: the new penalties would be. Kevin your thoughts a new

1012
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 3: flop rule if it's not past yet, but.

1013
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: If it is, I do like the concept of it.

1014
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 7: I do think it may be something that's difficult in

1015
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 7: practice to get at least consistently.

1016
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: The majority of us feel like you.

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00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 7: Know, in real time, we know what a flop actually

1018
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 7: is an it then when you slow it down and

1019
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 7: go back to replay, it can be harder to determine.

1020
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 7: So I think maybe sixty percent of the time we

1021
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 7: can tell when someone is legitimately flopping, But there are

1022
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 7: your bang bang plays where a lot of times.

1023
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: You just don't know.

1024
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Speaker 7: So I do think in theory it is good, and

1025
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 7: I think that flopping is bad for the game. I

1026
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 7: just think it might be difficult to enforce on a

1027
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 7: night in night out.

1028
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 3: Basis, do you like the fact that it's okay, so

1029
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 3: you observe a flop, but play continues until the next

1030
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 3: whistle or until there's a neutral opportunity. Then the official

1031
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 3: can wait to make the call then and you'll either

1032
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 3: get a technical file amount of sportsman like or the

1033
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,919
Speaker 3: other team could be ordered a free throw. I kind

1034
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 3: of like that part of it, because now your team

1035
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 3: is really penalized. If you're pulling a flop, you're trying

1036
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 3: to trick the refer trick the fans.

1037
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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I agree with that too. You're generally speaking,

1038
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 7: you know, if it's something that's gonna that can stop

1039
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 7: the momentum of a game, which a flop can do

1040
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 7: with an offensive foul, that's something I generally wouldn't be

1041
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 7: a fan of. But the fact that you can have

1042
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 7: a punitive measure like a technical free throw in possession

1043
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 7: of the ball or what have you, uh do that that,

1044
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 7: I think that's something that would disincentivize players from doing it.

1045
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 7: So in a general sense, I don't like necessarily stopping

1046
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 7: the flow of the keeping the flow of the game going,

1047
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 7: especially if there's a you know, a pretty egregious call

1048
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 7: that just may have been missed. But I do like

1049
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 7: the fact that they'll at least be able to go

1050
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 7: back and assess the proper penalties and penalize the team

1051
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 7: for doing it.

1052
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Speaker 3: Right, So, they're going to experiment in the summer league

1053
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 3: and then the Board of Governors will vote on it

1054
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 3: prior to the season. Ethan, your thought on the flop rule.

1055
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's actually to piggyback off Kevin. I

1056
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 8: think it's a great It's great for the league. It'll

1057
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 8: stop the momentum. I didn't like that fouls like this

1058
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 8: and flops stop the momentum, So I'm happy to see

1059
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 8: that they came out with an idea. We'll see if

1060
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 8: it works. I think the fans will like it. I

1061
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 8: think it'll work for the league as well.

1062
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Speaker 3: So do both start with you? Kevin? You think the

1063
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 3: Board of Governors will vote to pass to pass the

1064
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 3: new flop rule? Got to vote on it.

1065
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, I think they will. I think there's been

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Speaker 7: an upswing of of people who have been really upset

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01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 7: at the just how how egregious it has turned into

1068
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 7: over the last really the last ten years or so,

1069
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 7: how bad players have gotten with it. So I do

1070
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 7: think it's something that the Competition Committee will end up passings.

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01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 3: Ethan, do you think the Board of Governors will pass

1072
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 3: the flop rule?

1073
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 8: From what I'm researching, it seems like it's going to

1074
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 8: be a definite, a definite yes from everybody, because everybody's

1075
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 8: frustrated and sick and tired of games being decided by flops.

1076
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 3: So I want to circle back to one thing and

1077
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 3: draw a quick parallel start with you, Kevin. So initially

1078
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 3: I understand both of you guys. Your knee jerk reaction

1079
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 3: is to the s in season tournament. It's kind of

1080
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 3: a thumbs down. How did you initially react when you

1081
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 3: heard about the Playing Tournament? What were your thoughts on that?

1082
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: I hated it.

1083
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 7: I thought you were taking the NBA Playoffs and potentially

1084
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 7: watering it down even more. And I thought that you

1085
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 7: were taking away from teams that earned the seven and

1086
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 7: eighty seed over an eighty two game season and making

1087
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 7: them play it off. So my initial thought going into

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01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 7: the off seasonto the tournament was I was not a fan.

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01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 3: So since they've implemented the playing Tournament and used it

1090
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 3: multiple years now, have you changed your mind? You're still

1091
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 3: in the original position.

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01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 7: I've changed my mind because I do believe what they

1093
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 7: initially said. One of the goals was was the distancentivized tanking,

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01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 7: and I do believe that keeping a certain number of

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01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 7: teams available or I should say in it, you know,

1096
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 7: available for a chance to get to a playoff spot

1097
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 7: towards the end of the season. Helps distincentivized teams from

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01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 7: benching their players and tanking down the stretch. So after

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01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 7: a couple of years seeing it implements it, I'm still

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01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 7: not the biggest fan of you know, teams being able

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01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 7: to kind of sneak in on the bottom, but at

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01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 7: the very least it prevents teams from trading away players

1103
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 7: or pitching players in the last ten.

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Speaker 1: To fifteen games of the regular season.

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01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 7: So I'll air on that side and saying ultimately it

1106
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 7: did good, I'm okay.

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01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 3: With it because now instead of finishing in the top eight,

1108
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 3: now you got to finish in the top six. And

1109
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 3: if you don't like the plan or be stuck in

1110
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 3: the plan, then go a little extra, do what you

1111
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 3: gotta do to finish in the top six versus just

1112
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 3: the top eight. You're gonna have to sing for your

1113
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 3: supper now to get into the top eight. Ethan, you

1114
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 3: got the last word on what I just asked, Kevin,

1115
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 3: when you first heard about the playing tournament, would you

1116
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 3: think of that? And is your opinion still the same

1117
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 3: now or has it changed.

1118
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 8: When it first started, I didn't like it because I

1119
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 8: was so used to the eighteen conference playoff sixteen team,

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01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 8: so I was very against it. But like we saw

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Speaker 8: with the heat and they were playing correct. Yeah, yeah,

1122
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 8: so like we saw it the heat.

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Speaker 3: They did. Remember they were losing with the Bulls.

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Speaker 8: Almost right right, So I just think it's good for

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01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 8: the good for the league, adds more excitement for the fans,

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Speaker 8: and yeah, I'm in for.

1127
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 3: It all right. Coming up NBA free agency, We're not

1128
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 3: done yet. Who were the winners and losers? Lots of unpack.

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Speaker 3: This is NBA season right now. Man, it feels like

1130
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 3: it because there is lots of news. But for first,

1131
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,439
Speaker 3: let's go back to our guy with the news, Kevin

1132
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 3: Figures with the latest seven. So NBA free agency has

1133
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 3: come and gone, and man, what a Worl'll win two

1134
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 3: billion dollars in contracts and you gotta give it up.

1135
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 3: The Lakers are going to have a deeper roster surrounding

1136
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 3: Lebron starting this November. And I have to give him credit.

1137
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 3: I thought they did a very solid job this offseason.

1138
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 3: They had Gabe, Vincent Tory and Prince cam Reddish. They

1139
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 3: grabbed them all in free agency. Moreover, they retain Austin

1140
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 3: Reeves four years fifty six man, they retained Ruy Hachimura,

1141
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 3: D'Angelo Russell, and look, you know, Gabe Vincent is quite

1142
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 3: a pickup because he started every game for the Heat

1143
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 3: in the playoffs during their run to the twenty two finals,

1144
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 3: and he was a big time pick and role player.

1145
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be a steady player at

1146
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 3: the you know, in the court, more so than the

1147
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 3: Lakers had had it, you know, for long stretches of

1148
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 3: last season. And at the same time, you know, Russell

1149
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 3: was brought back on a pretty reasonable deal and he

1150
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 3: can still provide values to score. I certainly know that

1151
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 3: he fell into disfavor, but you know, you've got I

1152
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 3: think a roster full of complimentary players, Princeton Reddish. They're

1153
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,439
Speaker 3: not perfect wings, but their lives in the NBA will

1154
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 3: never be easier than playing off Lebron James and Anthony Davis.

1155
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 3: You know, Prince Prince is sort of this you know,

1156
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 3: arch typical three and D that you put him around

1157
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 3: a superstar. And even though Cam Reddish hasn't really fulfilled

1158
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 3: his potential, he's worth taking a flyer on. Okay, so

1159
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 3: what did the Lakers do? They retained all the important

1160
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 3: pieces from their core. And this is a team that

1161
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 3: just made the West Finals, and they actually upgraded their

1162
01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 3: roster without sacrificing any depth or you know, any you know,

1163
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 3: future cap flexibility. So do I think the Lakers are

1164
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,919
Speaker 3: gonna win the championship next year? No, but they're gonna

1165
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 3: be competitive. And I don't even know if they'll get

1166
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 3: to the Conference finals again. But for now, what they did,

1167
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 3: you have to give him a lot of credit. One

1168
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 3: of the losers of NBA free agency. How can I

1169
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 3: not be Joel Embiid. He did win the MVP, can't

1170
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 3: seem to find a running mate. Ben Simmons has imploded.

1171
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 3: The former front office did want to pay Jimmy Butler.

1172
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 3: Now James Harden wants out. They didn't sign an extension

1173
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 3: this past well during the summer. And here's a guy,

1174
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 3: he's in his prime. Joel Embiid's in his prime. Philly

1175
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 3: can't afford to keep wasting years of his career by

1176
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 3: not putting another star around him. Even if Hard returns,

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01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 3: I'm not sure how the Sixers will be any better.

1178
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 3: They are a team that lost his second round last,

1179
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 3: you know, during the playoffs, and didn't look good doing it, right,

1180
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 3: But Embiid is not getting a lot of help in Philadelphia.

1181
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 3: I'm not looking to take up a collection plate for him,

1182
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 3: but I would say this, Fax is facts, and you

1183
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 3: know he's he's Batman and he's a Robin and it

1184
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 3: doesn't look like ones walking through that door one of

1185
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 3: the winners. Give it up to Heat culture. Okay, you

1186
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 3: can make fun of that all you want, but it's

1187
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 3: a very real thing. If you look at how Miami

1188
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 3: does business, it's a very real thing. They had a

1189
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 3: run to the finals and no one saw coming. And

1190
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 3: that was even enough to convince Damian Lillard, who's pushing

1191
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 3: hard for a trade to the Heat. And it remains

1192
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 3: to be seen whether Little would get his wish. But

1193
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 3: the Heat's brand. If you have a superstar openly saying

1194
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 3: that he wants to go play for you and your brand,

1195
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 3: that's a compliment, all right, loser. I say this in

1196
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 3: air quotes. I say this in air quotes. But the

1197
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 3: champion Nuggets and there I think they've got an excellent

1198
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 3: chance to be right back in the finals again next year.

1199
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 3: Fax is facts. They lost two key pieces from their

1200
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 3: title team. Bruce Brown scored more points off the bench

1201
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 3: and anybody else in the playoffs. He was a key cog.

1202
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 3: Jeff Green was like seventh in minutes for guys coming

1203
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 3: off the bench during the playoffs. So they both had

1204
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 3: very critical roles for Denver. Now Denver kept their big

1205
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 3: four and they kept their core. But this is the

1206
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 3: way it works. You win a championship, you contribute. Bruce

1207
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 3: Brown gets a nice raise, goes to Indiana, Jeff Green

1208
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 3: goes to the Rockets. Both Brown and Green they were

1209
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 3: solid all season for Denver. They contributed tremendously during the finals.

1210
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 3: But Denver's got some young players waiting in the wings.

1211
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 3: But you know, that's that old French word potential. You

1212
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 3: don't know what that stands for. Not good, but they

1213
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 3: can help the team long term. But until you see

1214
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 3: them do that. It would have been a nice look

1215
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 3: in the perfect world had Denver kept Bruce Brown and

1216
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 3: Jeff Green, I think you get the band back together.

1217
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 3: That's a hell of a title defense right there. They'd

1218
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 3: be an incredibly tough out. But look, there's still gonna

1219
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 3: be a tough out. But you can't say they're better

1220
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 3: than last year when you lose Bruce Brown and Jeff Green. Meanwhile,

1221
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 3: I'm going to put the Dallas Mavericks in a winter category.

1222
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 3: Even if Kyrie Irving contract raises eyebrows, which it should,

1223
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 3: Dallas has done some solid work. Okay, the Grant Williams

1224
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 3: contract is a steal, and he's the exact type of

1225
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 3: defender and shooter who's gonna thrive playing off of Kyrie

1226
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 3: and Lucas. Someone's got to play defense on this team.

1227
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 3: Seth Curry's back for another year. The MAVs AT's in

1228
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 3: front court depth through the draft, and you know, if

1229
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 3: they can steal Batist Tabeli from Portland, they'll even get

1230
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 3: more of a defensive edge. I don't know if Dallas

1231
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 3: is a true contender. And if you hit your wagon

1232
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 3: the Kyrie Irving, that's the role of the dice man.

1233
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 3: That's a wild card to the highest order. But still,

1234
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 3: given the situation the team had created for itself by

1235
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 3: acquiring Irving in the first place, well, the MAVs decided

1236
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 3: to double down on what they've done. I call him

1237
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 3: a winner in terms of the way they handled their

1238
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 3: business in the offseason. Losers raptors. You go from Fred

1239
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 3: Van Vliet to Dennis Shrewder. That's a significant downgrade, to

1240
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 3: say the least. Nothing against Shrewder. Van vlietz his start.

1241
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 3: He's already got one championshipuners. Meanwhile, Pascal Siakam's on an

1242
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:27,839
Speaker 3: expiring deal and Toronto will get trade offers for those players,

1243
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,600
Speaker 3: but their value is going to be much lower than

1244
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 3: it would have been a year ago, and any of

1245
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 3: the Raps can get those guys long term. How's the

1246
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 3: team gonna lose both Van Vliet and approve a roster

1247
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 3: that missed the playoffs last year? Okay, Draymond Green's a

1248
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 3: winner and the Warriors are a winner. They re signed

1249
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 3: Draymond Green, and they trade Jordan Poole for Chris Paul

1250
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 3: and their brand new GM Mike Dunlevy. He's got a

1251
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 3: long way to go before he's Bob Myers, but i'll

1252
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,879
Speaker 3: tell you what, he's on to a pretty good start.

1253
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 3: You applaud the commitment. He's good. The Warriors are still

1254
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 3: an all win now team. This is a strategy. As

1255
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 3: long as you've got Steph Curry on the roster and

1256
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 3: Klay Thompson and you keep Draymond, you're alive. Now I

1257
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 3: think I think the Warriors are being improved over last year.

1258
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,799
Speaker 3: There's no question that the distraction from one punch pool

1259
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 3: Draymond that just set a tone for the season that

1260
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 3: it was fairly well obvious. As the season went on,

1261
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 3: you could see that the Warriors just weren't themselves. You

1262
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 3: could see that it was written all over Steve's kurrz face.

1263
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 3: It's just it was the elephant in the room that

1264
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 3: never went away. That's gone. Now, how about the Milwaukee Bucks.

1265
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 3: I want to give him credit. I don't know if

1266
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 3: their winner or loser. We're gonna find out next Year's

1267
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 3: saying maybe give him a push because they brought back

1268
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 3: Chris Middleton, they brought back Brook Lopez. That keeps Milwaukee's

1269
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 3: title window open for at least next season. Right, they

1270
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 3: lose Joe Engles and Javon Carter, But as long as

1271
01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 3: you've got Giannis, Middleton, Drew Holliday, well they might have

1272
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 3: to make some moves to bolster their playoff rotation. Do

1273
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 3: they bring back Jay Crowder, Do they add Malik Peasley?

1274
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, but at least what Milwaukee did was

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Speaker 3: maintained status quo so they could at least on paper,

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Speaker 3: look like they're going to compete again for next season,

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Speaker 3: coming up a league, since a new attendance record, and

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Speaker 3: with you know, with World Cup around the corner, you

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Speaker 3: can't poop poo the fact that this sport is increasingly popular,

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Speaker 3: increasingly more accessible on TV, and the numbers don't lie,

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Speaker 3: including right here at the MLS. I'll give you the

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Speaker 3: Al right back on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 3: coming to you live from the tyraq dot com studios

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Speaker 3: here in a Las Vegas, Nevada. Shout out to my

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Speaker 3: good friend Patrick, longtime friend here in Las Vegas listening.

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Speaker 3: Just text me hey. Uh. Look, when something of this

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Speaker 3: nature happens, you can't ignore it. There has been an

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Speaker 3: ongoing growth of pro soccer in the US, and it

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Speaker 3: hit another major milestone because last week the LA Galaxy

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Speaker 3: and the Raining Champ LAFC drew eighty two thousand people

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Speaker 3: at the Rose Bowl on a Tuesday night, which set

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Speaker 3: a single game league attendance record that easily surpassed Charlotte

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Speaker 3: FC March to twenty twenty two. They drew seventy four

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Speaker 3: thousand because it was their first ever game as the

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Speaker 3: league expansion franchise, and that was widely described as a

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Speaker 3: playoff type atmosphere. Okay, we are talking eighty two thousand

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Speaker 3: fans for a Tuesday night soccer game. At the Rose Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Not talking about the Rose Bowl game and not talking

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Speaker 3: about the Super Bowl. We're talking about an NFL game.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about MLS now the LA Game, widely known

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Speaker 3: as El Trofico. It's a nod to the famous Spanish

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Speaker 3: Classico rivalry between Barcelona and Real Madrid. It actually was

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Speaker 3: rescheduled from February because, remember we talked about this, there

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Speaker 3: was this really heavy rain and wind in southern California,

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Speaker 3: so they rescheduled the game for June, and it still

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Speaker 3: drew eighty two thousand people eighty two one ten to

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Speaker 3: be exact. So regardless of timing or anything of that nature,

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Speaker 3: this is attendance figure. Clearly it shows it represents another

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Speaker 3: important step that the MLS in there becoming a larger

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Speaker 3: and very important entity. Okay, this also follows other recent

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Speaker 3: achievements such as Lionel Messi. He's making a move to

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Speaker 3: enter Miami. Remember Saudi Arabia offer of a three year,

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Speaker 3: one point six billion dollar contract. No, he just he

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Speaker 3: said I want to go to Miami and that's a

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Speaker 3: great and by the way, he negotiated a groundbreaking deal

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Speaker 3: Apple and look when you look at it, the expansion

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Speaker 3: team like San Diego, Okay. Franchises are increasing in value tremendously,

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Speaker 3: and there's been an unprecedented fan reception for the new

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Speaker 3: Saint Louis FC club. It's called Saint Louis City. So

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Speaker 3: when you have eighty thousand people in the energy in

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Speaker 3: that type of stadium coming at you, it comes with

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Speaker 3: a sense that maybe something bigger is really happening. This

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01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 3: is not normal, right, Greg Vanny, the head coach and

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Speaker 3: sporting director for Galaxy. They defeated LAFC two to one.

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Speaker 3: You know, one of the NFL's most prominent teams, one

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Speaker 3: of the most powerful teams in terms of notoriety, the

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Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys, Jerry Jones. They're getting the Netflix star treatment,

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01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:52,919
Speaker 3: all right, and they're boosting their ambitions in the process.

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Speaker 3: What was What's happening here? Netflix is reportedly paying fifty

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Speaker 3: million dollars for the rights to produce a part documentary

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Speaker 3: series on Dallas Cowboy owner Jerry Jones. Ten parts. I

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Speaker 3: have to see it to believe it, but ten parts.

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Speaker 3: Now Netflix outbid ESPN and Amazon to get this gig,

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01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 3: and Netflix will gain another prominent piece of sports content

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01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 3: because obviously, remember they've drawn comparisons to the Last Dance,

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01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 3: which still airs to this date and is still fairly popular.

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Speaker 3: So the Jones Netflix project is slated to be a

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Speaker 3: key effort by the National Football League in Skydance Media.

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01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 3: They struck a deal last year, a content deal, and

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Speaker 3: the documentary is going to focus heavily on the Cowboys

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01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 3: and their three Super Bowl titles under Jerry Jones in

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Speaker 3: the nineties and will feature interviews with Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith,

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Speaker 3: and Michael Irvin. Now you know you're relevant when you

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01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 3: haven't reached the title game since nineteen ninety five and

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Speaker 3: you haven't won a playoff game, I think since nineteen

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Speaker 3: ninety six. But the Conboys are still the NFL's most

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Speaker 3: valuable franchise. Where am I going with this? MLS is

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01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 3: setting their new attendance record on a Tuesday night at

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Speaker 3: the Rose Bowl between the LA Galaxy and LAFC, the

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Speaker 3: old traffico game. That is only going to stand to

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01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 3: boost the value of the league, of the various entities,

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Speaker 3: of the various teams, the expansion teams, and certainly the

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles teams. I'm blown away by this because this

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01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 3: is now, this is kind of an uncharted situation. And

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Speaker 3: when you start getting that kind of attention in the

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Speaker 3: world of sports, and what is happening now with Saudi

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Speaker 3: Arabia and the Live Tour, the NBA getting the new contract.

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01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 3: You're seeing a billion dollars of contracts being two billion

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Speaker 3: dollars of contracts being negotiated here in the NBA free

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01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 3: agency period which intended you got a new n season

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01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 3: tournament coming to Vegas, you got the A's moving to Vegas.

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Speaker 3: I believe you'll see NBA expansion here within five years.

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Speaker 3: I think you'll see Major League Baseball expansion here. In

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01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 3: the next few years. I think you'll see Nashville get

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Speaker 3: a team. We are in unprecedented times. We are in

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Speaker 3: unprecedented times, especially when I believe Joey Chestnut has now

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Speaker 3: become a true American hero and deserves comparison with people

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Speaker 3: who've dominated their craft. Coming up, I'm gonna give Joy

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Speaker 3: Chestnut his flowers. Keep it locked right here. You're listening

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Speaker 3: to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. That's right,

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Speaker 3: should be. Victor Winbin Yama called him the most dominant

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Speaker 3: athlete of all time. Now, when is his sport a sport? Now?

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Speaker 3: Years ago he used to joke, well, if you can

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Speaker 3: pull a groin, if you can trash talk and you

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Speaker 3: can bet on it, it's a sport. Is Joey chest not

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Speaker 3: an athlete? Hmmm? Well, I'm not saying he's not an

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Speaker 3: athlete because he has to significantly train pretty vehemanly for

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Speaker 3: what he does. He does cardio, he lifts weights, he runs,

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Speaker 3: He has specific training mechanisms so his jaws can chomp

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Speaker 3: on all those hot dogs. And what are the results been?

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Speaker 3: He's not won eight in a row sixteen to the

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01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 3: last seventeen, now has sixteen Mustard belts. And when you

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Speaker 3: consider what Joey Chestnut has done in terms of dominating

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01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 3: chosen profession right, competitive eating is typically an individual sport,

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Speaker 3: one person against the competition, and Joey Chestnuts now won

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Speaker 3: sixteen of them sixteen to the last seventeen. He is

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Speaker 3: ruling in his sport in an era where he compares

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Speaker 3: favorably to other champions and other individual sports activities, whatever

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Speaker 3: you want to call it. Right now, I'm not being

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Speaker 3: facetious here. What if you were to compare Joy chestnut

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Speaker 3: to Rafi and Adal In eighteen years from twenty oh

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Speaker 3: five to twenty twenty two, he won fourteen French Open titles.

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Speaker 3: Joy Chestnutt has won sixteen in that time period. About

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01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 3: Kelly Slater in eleven World Surf League crowns over a

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Speaker 3: seventeen year period. Over seventeen year period, Joey Chestnutt had

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Speaker 3: sixteen crowns. About Martine and Avratilova from nineteen seventy eight

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01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 3: to nineteen ninety win nine Wimbledon singles titles, including six

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Speaker 3: in a row. Joey Chestnuts won eight in a row

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Speaker 3: sixteen to seventeen. How about Tiger Woods. Tiger Woods has

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01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:14,879
Speaker 3: won at least one major championship and every year except

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01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 3: two from nineteen ninety seven to two thousand and eight

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01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 3: that included the Tiger Slam from two thousand to two

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Speaker 3: thousand and one, where he actually held all four majors

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Speaker 3: at one time. Then you got team sports. Bill Russell,

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01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 3: he had nine championships in the NBA, Andre Richard, the

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01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 3: Montreal Canadians had eleven, Yogi Berra had ten World Series

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01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 3: and of course Tom Brady seven Super Bowls. But when

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Speaker 3: you think of what Joey Chestnut has done to his body, okay,

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01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 3: and by the way, the July fourth event, this is

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01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 3: a spectacle of the highest order. If you don't enjoy

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01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 3: this fair enough, maybe it's not for everybody, but I

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01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 3: will say it draws thirty thousand people on the corner

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Speaker 3: of sturf Surfing still avenues Cony Allen in Brooklyn Man's

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01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 3: watch on TV. They sell three thousand dollars dogs in

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Speaker 3: the event. And I know it's kind of a gluttonous,

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01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 3: sickening thing when you really think about it, right, it's

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01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 3: there are aspects of it that cause you to turn

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01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 3: your stomach a little bit. But Joey Chestnut entered his

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01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 3: first Nathan's contest in two thousand and five and looked

1444
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 3: like Kobe Yashi was unbeatable. He basically ended Kobe Ashi's career.

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01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 3: He hasn't lost in the competition. He lost once in

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Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, there's a trivia question for you. Matt Stoney

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01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,799
Speaker 3: is the guy who beat him. He is, in short,

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01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 3: the foremost eater of hot dogs in history. He got

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01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 3: a sixteenth mustard built this last Tuesday. He was an

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01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 3: overwhelming favorite. He had to bet five thousand dollars to

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01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 3: win just one hundred dollars, and they had these beautiful

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01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 3: new big yellow belts. Right. But Joy Chestnut does not

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01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 3: only just win these contests, and kind of like a

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01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 3: Tiger Woods fashion, he dominates him in a way that

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01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 3: turns your head. If we're being fair, the ten highest

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01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 3: totals in the event belonged to Chestnut. Now, he ate

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01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 3: seventy six hot dogs in twenty twenty one. That's the

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01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 3: world record. But Chestnut, He's eaten more than seventy dogs

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Speaker 3: and buns six times. He doesn't just devour the dogs.

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01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 3: By the way, Chestnut has a major league eating record

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Speaker 3: in fifty four categories, including chicken wings. He'd one hundred

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01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 3: and eighty two chicken wings in thirty minutes. He had

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Speaker 3: one hundred and forty one hard boil legs in eight minutes.

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01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 3: He had forty seven grilled cheeses in ten minutes. He

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01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 3: had one hundred and twenty one twinkies in six minutes,

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01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 3: thirty two Big Max in thirty eight minutes. You get

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01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 3: the picture. Head go on and on. I mean I

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01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 3: might add a few more later to kick out of it,

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01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:53,759
Speaker 3: but let's just stick with hot dogs in the event.

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Speaker 3: In this event since two thousand and five, the Nathan's

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Speaker 3: Hot Dog Eating Contest, which we watch every July fourth,

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01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 3: and George Shay, that announcer with the straw hat. He's

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01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 3: become a household name for grind out loud. He draws attention.

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01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 3: This event's real. Since two thousand and five, Joy Chestnut,

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Speaker 3: he's eaten two hundred and fourteen hot dogs and buns

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01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 3: in that event. By the way, despite not participating in

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01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 3: every event since twenty h five, chestnuts total of eleven

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01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty two dogs is almost seven hundred more

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Speaker 3: than any other eater, So it's not that he's just winning,

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01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 3: he's lapping the field. By the way, the competition dogs

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01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 3: from Nathan's are six and three quarters inches long, so

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01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 3: the total the total length of hot dogs that Joey

1483
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 3: Chestnut has eaten in that period equates to seven seven

1484
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy six inches or six hundred and forty

1485
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 3: eight feet. By comparison, you want to line it up

1486
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,639
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty eight feet. The distance to dead

1487
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 3: center field at City Field and Yankee Stadium are four

1488
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 3: hundred feet four hundred and eight feet. The longest home

1489
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 3: run of Aaron Judges' career four hundred and ninety six feet.

1490
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 3: The height of the Statue of Liberty three hundred and

1491
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 3: five feet. Joey Chestnut six hundred and forty eight feet

1492
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 3: worth of hot dogs in his career in these contests.

1493
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:31,520
Speaker 3: By the way, every Nathan's hot dog in the competition

1494
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 3: weighs seventy six grams. That means in the competition, Joy

1495
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 3: Chestnut has eaten one hundred and forty three pounds of

1496
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 3: hot dogs during his sixteen performances. On the fourth of July, therefore,

1497
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 3: Joey Chestnut has eaten the weight equivalent to the average

1498
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 3: UFC featherweight fighter in hot dogs. By the way, hot

1499
01:25:56,960 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 3: dogs amount to two hundred and ninety calories each. Right,

1500
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 3: Joy Chestnut eight sixty two hot dogs and buns this

1501
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 3: past Tuesday. That means in that one ten minute stretch,

1502
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:13,719
Speaker 3: Joey Chestnut consumed eighteen thousand, two hundred and seventy calories

1503
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 3: in ten minutes. That is crazy. The average human being

1504
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 3: at eats two thousand calories a day eighteen two hundred

1505
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 3: and seventy calories in ten minutes. In his competing career,

1506
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 3: joy Chestnut has eaten nearly three hundred and thirty five

1507
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 3: thousand calories and hot dogs alone. By comparison daily calories

1508
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 3: at Michael Phelps would eat in training and you see

1509
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 3: his legendary when he was training for the two thousand

1510
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:44,799
Speaker 3: eight Olympics, a swimmer, according to Olympics dot coms Olympics

1511
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 3: dot com, about ten thousand a day, ten thousand calories

1512
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 3: a day. Might he eat large pizzas, all kind of stuff.

1513
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 3: He'd swim for hours, but he wouldn't take about ten

1514
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 3: thousand calories a day. Joy Chestnut just took in eighteen thousand,

1515
01:26:56,840 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 3: two hundred and seventy calories in ten minutes Tuesday. By

1516
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 3: the way, polar bears eat about twelve thousand calories a day.

1517
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 3: Is you can't make this stuff up. And Joey Chestnut

1518
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 3: has had multiple entrants. Give some of these guys a dude.

1519
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 3: Nick Wherry, he's the husband of Mickey Pseudo, who's also

1520
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 3: got to give her credit. She lives here in Las Vegas.

1521
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 3: She's the world record holder for hot dogs eating among

1522
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 3: women and she I think her world record is forty eight,

1523
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 3: forty eight and a half something like that. And by

1524
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 3: the way, she's no slotch eating when it comes to

1525
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:33,879
Speaker 3: competitive eating records. She had sixteen pounds of or sixteen

1526
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 3: pints of vodilla I scream in six minutes. That's her record.

1527
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 3: Corn dogs, she ate twenty two corn dogs in eight

1528
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 3: minutes back in twenty twenty two. You get the picture. Okay,

1529
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 3: these people are freak shows when it comes to eating.

1530
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 3: I want to give some credit to some of Joey

1531
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 3: Chestnuts competitors, because these guys are no slouch. Imagine if

1532
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 3: you ate fifty one hot dogs and lost, that would

1533
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 3: be Jeffrey Esper only lost that year you lost by

1534
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 3: twenty five. That's year that Joy chest Nut eight seventy six.

1535
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 3: Nick Wery, he's again the husband of Mickey Pseudo, the

1536
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 3: women's champion. He forty four hot dogs, imagining he forty

1537
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 3: four hot dogs and finishing fourth, or James Webb forty

1538
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 3: two hot dogs and finishing tenth. I mean, I think

1539
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 3: one time I ate four hot dogs and that wasn't

1540
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 3: part of a contest. I'm just hungry. I can't imagine this.

1541
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 3: So this is really art science. It is an athletic

1542
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 3: feat when you consider the physical toll. It takes the

1543
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 3: physical amount of training that you have to do. And

1544
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 3: this is a man who makes about five hundred grand

1545
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 3: a year just because of his ability to eat. Joy

1546
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 3: Chestnut is I don't know, maybe not from this planet.

1547
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 3: And he was a prohibitive favorite to win, an he

1548
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 3: won again, and it's just amazing that he not only

1549
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 3: can he used to win, he continues to dominate sixty

1550
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 3: nine to seventeen, and not only that, he continues to

1551
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 3: win by margin. So it's like if the New England

1552
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 3: Patriots won fifteen down to sixteen years one every game

1553
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 3: by two or three touchdowns. That's what Joey Chestnut's doing.

1554
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 3: By the way, here's a few more fun Joey Chestnut facts. Right,

1555
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 3: you like taco bell tacos? Joey Chestnut fifty three beef

1556
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:27,440
Speaker 3: tacos in ten minutes? Do you like ice cream sandwiches?

1557
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,719
Speaker 3: Joey Chestnut twenty six in six minutes? Memory he olds

1558
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 3: fifty four eating records. You like Hostess donuts, those little

1559
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 3: round donuts. The donuts heat two hundred and fifty seven

1560
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 3: in six minutes, like Pepperoni rolls, forty three of those

1561
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 3: in ten minutes. Now the all time record for chicken

1562
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 3: wings he eat four hundred and thirteen have been twelve hours.

1563
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:49,599
Speaker 3: I don't know what the deal is there, and I've

1564
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 3: never done anything straight for twelve hours, not to maybe sleep.

1565
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 3: Crystal Burgers they're the southern version of white Castle. You've

1566
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,679
Speaker 3: been to Atlanta, Crystal Spell with a K, he'd one hundred,

1567
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 3: and they're like white Castle, but one hundred and three

1568
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:06,600
Speaker 3: Crystal Burgers in eight minutes. You like pull pork sandwiches

1569
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 3: in your favorite barbecue shop. Forty five of those in

1570
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 3: ten minutes. Is Joy Chestnut an athlete? Is this a sport? Well,

1571
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 3: you can trash talk. I guess you could pull a groin,

1572
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:22,639
Speaker 3: and yes, you can bet on it. So yes, this

1573
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:25,920
Speaker 3: is a sport. And I do believe Joey Chestnut is

1574
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:29,600
Speaker 3: an athlete. Why he has to train like one, and

1575
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 3: he has to compete against other professionals, and he you know,

1576
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 3: he last year he had a pulled hamstring or he

1577
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 3: had some sort of achilles injury or something. He showed

1578
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:40,599
Speaker 3: up on crutches and then the guy tries to jump

1579
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 3: him on stage and he throws the guy down. The

1580
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 3: guy is an athlete, and he competes like an athlete.

1581
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:48,680
Speaker 3: So coming up, we'll get the cruise take. Do they

1582
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:53,919
Speaker 3: like the contest in and of himself? I mean, typically

1583
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 3: people run hot and cold on this start thing. There's

1584
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 3: no real in between. And the truth of the matter

1585
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 3: is that I think a lot of people like it,

1586
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:03,840
Speaker 3: but a lot of people don't. And then that brings

1587
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 3: the secondary question. And if you're mad Don Russo, he

1588
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 3: thinks it's the biggest waste of time of all time.

1589
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 3: If you're Victor Webbin Yama, he's called Joey athlete, the

1590
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 3: most or Joey athlete. He's called Joey Chestnut, the most

1591
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 3: dominant athlete of all time. He saw what I just did,

1592
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:22,600
Speaker 3: compared his record to Rafael and Donald Tiger woodsill in

1593
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 3: his chosen profession and what he does, he is very

1594
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 3: much as dominant as Tiger Woods was in his prime.

1595
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 3: So there you have it. Coming up, we'll bring in

1596
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:36,880
Speaker 3: the crew and get their thoughts. Ethan and Kevin, I'm

1597
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 3: Bernie Fraderbick Cody laugh from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio,

1598
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 3: tyrec dot Com studio is keep it locked right here.

1599
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 3: You're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports

1600
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 3: Radio and then go to Alaska for some King Crab

1601
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 3: get the King Crab record, whether the hell that is.

1602
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,720
Speaker 3: And he wants another taco bell eating championship even though

1603
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 3: he did and he does have the one taco bell record.

1604
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 3: You know, I think I said fifty three tacos and

1605
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 3: ten minutes something on those lines, and Pat McAfee wants

1606
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 3: to help him do that with some sort of charity event.

1607
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:09,799
Speaker 3: So look, Joey Chestnut is the Michael Jordan of his sport.

1608
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 3: If you don't want to call it a sport, but

1609
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 3: it's a spectacle, it's an event. It's a spectacle of

1610
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 3: the highest order, and it's it's clearly a people have

1611
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 3: it as appointment watching. Let's bring in the crew. First

1612
01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:26,639
Speaker 3: of all, Kevin, do you watch Do you personally watch

1613
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 3: the hot.

1614
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 10: Dog eating contest? I do not know, but obviously you're

1615
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 10: aware of it. Oh, I'm extremely aware. Absolutely thoughts. Look,

1616
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:40,640
Speaker 10: I certainly respect Joey Chestnuts. You know his streak, and

1617
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 10: look you brought this up last segment as well, the

1618
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 10: fact that he has multiple dozens of records and dozens

1619
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 10: of eating contests. I know a lot of people say

1620
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 10: it's like your glorifying gluttony, but and I certainly will

1621
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 10: not put it on the same level necessarily of like

1622
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 10: a sports competition like the NBA, NFL, et cetera. But

1623
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 10: I will certainly give him his problems because look, and

1624
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 10: there was a documentary on him some years ago. I

1625
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:06,000
Speaker 10: forget exactly what entity had it talking about his regiment

1626
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:08,200
Speaker 10: that he goes through on a yearly basis to basically

1627
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 10: train himself and train his digestive system.

1628
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, to put up with this.

1629
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 7: He's not a guy who just rolls out of bed.

1630
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:17,000
Speaker 7: He certainly not a heavy guy. He takes multiple physicals

1631
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 7: a year. He trains his body, and I'm doing trainings

1632
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 7: in air quotes to a certain degree to prepare himself

1633
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 7: to be able to compete at this level. So while

1634
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 7: I fay view it differently than many other sports competitions,

1635
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 7: I certainly give him all the respect in the world

1636
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 7: for doing what it takes and dedicating himself to his

1637
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:37,559
Speaker 7: craft and becoming the top of the food chain.

1638
01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:38,800
Speaker 1: For lack of a better term.

1639
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:42,679
Speaker 3: Well, he really does legitimately train, though he does cardio,

1640
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:45,720
Speaker 3: he does weights, and I saw that same I think

1641
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 3: I thought it was a thirty for thirty year and

1642
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 3: knee sixty one of the two. But he did all

1643
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 3: those facial exercises to make his jaw stronger. They're like isles,

1644
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 3: like you do knee ISOs, yes, football, And it did

1645
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 3: not look fun. It looked like like this is a

1646
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 3: guy who's built a four million dollars net worth based

1647
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 3: on eating. He says, you gotta love what you do,

1648
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:11,599
Speaker 3: and he loves it, and his normal diet is nothing

1649
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 3: like this, right, he just trains himself to be like

1650
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 3: a machine. It's like Jaws in the ocean, you know,

1651
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 3: feasting on on the rest of you know, the mammals.

1652
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 3: All right, ethan your thoughts. First of all, let's talk

1653
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 3: about the event itself. Do you watch the uh, you know,

1654
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 3: the hot dog eating contest?

1655
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:31,559
Speaker 1: Well, I definitely do.

1656
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:35,759
Speaker 8: Joey Chestnut has been a phenom for my entire life

1657
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:38,720
Speaker 8: because he's won sixteen times and I was about ten

1658
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 8: years old, so as long as I can remember, he's

1659
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 8: been winning the eating hot dog getting contests and I've

1660
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:44,839
Speaker 8: always watched.

1661
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 1: I think it's really entertaining.

1662
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 8: I think that it gives sports fans something entertaining to watch.

1663
01:34:55,360 --> 01:35:00,679
Speaker 8: That's not the normal NFL or NBA. People like watching

1664
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 8: people throw down hot dogs. It's it's like because if

1665
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 8: you watch like, it's the same thing as like watching

1666
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 8: Lebron drive down the lane and dunk. You know, people

1667
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 8: love watching that. While people love watching someone throw down

1668
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 8: those dogs because it's uh, it's you know, it's a

1669
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 8: freaking nature. Like you don't see it.

1670
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 3: So it is a freaking nature. And by the way,

1671
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 3: the event itself at Coney Island draws thirty thousand fans,

1672
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 3: and they actually sell three thousand hot dogs during the

1673
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 3: day of the event on site. No, I gotta admit

1674
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:39,800
Speaker 3: I love hot dogs. I eat them, okay, and long

1675
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 3: and short of it is though, watching that, I don't

1676
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:43,600
Speaker 3: want to eat a hot dog for well after watching it.

1677
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:44,679
Speaker 3: So I don't know how you go to the event

1678
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:47,639
Speaker 3: and eat a hot dog when you're watching, because they're

1679
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:49,640
Speaker 3: not really eating right. And the whole thing with the

1680
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 3: bun on the water kind of makes my teeth ititch.

1681
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, come on, man, this is a this is

1682
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:58,080
Speaker 3: this is crazy right, So all right, so we talked

1683
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 3: about the event. You guys are both of the event. Uh,

1684
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 3: maybe I got a little bit carried away with my

1685
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 3: poetical license there, Kevin. But comparing joy Chess not to

1686
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 3: Tiger Woods and rafael o'dalald Martina and Avertillo and you know, uh,

1687
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 3: because they dominated, you know, over the decade, over a

1688
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 3: decade and a half, there was such dominance over and

1689
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 3: out that the results are the same in terms of

1690
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 3: their record. That's undeniable. However, maybe you are assessing that

1691
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,599
Speaker 3: the degree of difficulty is not the same for Joey Chestnut.

1692
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:33,599
Speaker 3: Is that kind of what I'm feeling?

1693
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, to a certain degree. And look, I don't want

1694
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 1: to begrudge.

1695
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 7: And we talked about, you know the fact that he

1696
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 7: keeps himself in relatively good shape throughout the year whenever

1697
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:43,720
Speaker 7: he can, and trains himself. I mean, I guess, you know,

1698
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 7: him doing his facial exercises. You could if you wanted

1699
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 7: to compare to you know, Tiger Woods lifting weights. You know,

1700
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 7: I don't know, it doesn't necessarily equate. And I think

1701
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 7: under the auspicies of you know, what's healthy living and

1702
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:59,599
Speaker 7: what's not what an athlete does, and whether Joey Chestnut

1703
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 7: does a come competitor versus an athlete, there's certainly a

1704
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 7: set level of a regiment, of a level of discipline

1705
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:08,640
Speaker 7: that he has to have in his field to be

1706
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 7: as dominant as he has been.

1707
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 1: It's just viewed.

1708
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:15,720
Speaker 7: Differently because essentially, and I think unfairly for him, he's

1709
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 7: just seen as a guy you sit there and you

1710
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 7: eat all day, and you shove an unhealthy amount of

1711
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 7: food down your throat for an undetermined or a predetermined

1712
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 7: amount of time.

1713
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 1: That just doesn't seem healthy. People have a.

1714
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 7: Hard time of being able to, you know, reconcile and

1715
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:33,760
Speaker 7: compare that to an actually highly trained athlete, you know,

1716
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 7: who was in the gym multiple times a day, hours

1717
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:39,640
Speaker 7: at a time. So I think that's really difficult for

1718
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 7: people to reconcile. But on different ends of the spectrum,

1719
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:46,719
Speaker 7: why is how he's not in training necessarily any less,

1720
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 7: you know than someone like Tiger was or Ralphian Adal

1721
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:51,679
Speaker 7: is just different and it's not in the way that's

1722
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 7: glorified the way that sports generally is.

1723
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:56,560
Speaker 3: Fuir enough, And I think the thing that blows me

1724
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 3: a ways not only does he continue to win sixteen

1725
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:02,719
Speaker 3: to seventeen eight. But he's doing it by margin. He

1726
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 3: in in his sixteen wins, He's done it by accumulative

1727
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 3: seven hundred hot talks. I mean, so it's not he's

1728
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:11,599
Speaker 3: winning every game by three touchdowns. He's winning every baseball

1729
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 3: game by eight runs. He's won every basketball game by

1730
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 3: twenty He's blown everybody out, you know, and these are

1731
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:20,679
Speaker 3: other human beings too. So Ethan, you got the last

1732
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 3: word on this.

1733
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:25,919
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think calling him one of the greatest athletes

1734
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,600
Speaker 8: of all time is taking it a little far. I

1735
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 8: would say, I would have to say one of the

1736
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:37,759
Speaker 8: greatest eaters of all time. Yeah, it just doesn't doesn't

1737
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:41,719
Speaker 8: work for me. But it is fun to watch a meet.

1738
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:45,120
Speaker 3: Fifty four world records man, and he wants three new

1739
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:48,800
Speaker 3: ones now. So he's here to stay, and he will

1740
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 3: be a talking point for I think some time time

1741
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:54,600
Speaker 3: to come, because he attracts attention from a lot of

1742
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 3: major media outlets. All right, lots of attention in the

1743
01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:00,639
Speaker 3: world of soccer. Christoph fed will have that force coming. Happened. First,

1744
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 3: let's go back to our guy Cavin figures with the latest.

1745
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:05,719
Speaker 7: All right, Well, the NBA Summer League in Las Vegas,

1746
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:08,759
Speaker 7: kicked off on Friday. Spurs rookie victor Wimpin Yama scored

1747
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 7: just nine points and shot fifteen percent from the field

1748
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 7: in his debut. Second overall pick Brandon Miller struggled in

1749
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:16,559
Speaker 7: that game as well for the Hornets. He scored fifteen

1750
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 7: points on just five of fifteen shooting in what was

1751
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:23,240
Speaker 7: ultimately a nine point victory for San Antonio. In Major

1752
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:25,680
Speaker 7: League Baseball, the Mets have won six consecutive games. They

1753
01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:28,280
Speaker 7: beat San Diego seven to five and extras on Friday Night.

1754
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 7: Padres saw their three game winning streak, snapped two home

1755
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 7: runs from Wookie Betts. He was robbed of another home

1756
01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:35,759
Speaker 7: run early in the game as well, but the Dodgers

1757
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 7: did dominate the Angels eleven to four. Arizona snapping a

1758
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:42,320
Speaker 7: four game losing streak with the victory over Pittsburgh. Luis

1759
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:44,800
Speaker 7: Castillo pitching seven shoutout innings in a ten to one

1760
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 7: Seattle victory over Houston. Alec Manoa struck out eight batters

1761
01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 7: and snapped an eleven start winless streak in a twelve

1762
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 7: to two Blue Jays victory over Detroit, and the UFC

1763
01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 7: was announced on Friday. Heavyweight champion John Jones would defend

1764
01:39:57,000 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 7: his title Againsteve A. Mijocic on November eleventh at Medicine

1765
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 7: Square Garden. Back to Bernie freddo Hey.

1766
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:06,879
Speaker 3: Couple of old timers in there, a couple of renaissance men.

1767
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:10,800
Speaker 3: All right, good stuff, Kevin. So we've got in the

1768
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:15,440
Speaker 3: world of soccer, one superstar who wants out, one superstar

1769
01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 3: on his way to Miami. And oh, by the way,

1770
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 3: the Gold Cup quarterfinals continue this weekend, and the USA

1771
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 3: is very much alive. That's why at this time every

1772
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 3: week we bring you Chrisphffett's World of Soccer.

1773
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 2: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drum. It's

1774
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:46,799
Speaker 2: all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

1775
01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:59,120
Speaker 3: Chris Prefett. Good they forgot to try on your mic Hi,

1776
01:40:59,160 --> 01:40:59,639
Speaker 3: don't Bud.

1777
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:02,000
Speaker 6: I'm doing all right here.

1778
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 3: So let's start with him, Bob, Yeah, can you hear me?

1779
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:07,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1780
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:07,640
Speaker 6: I can hear it.

1781
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:11,879
Speaker 3: Okay, So let's start with him. Boppi one of the stars.

1782
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:14,840
Speaker 3: He had a you know, epic performance in the World

1783
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 3: Cup final, losing to Messi, and he doesn't want to

1784
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:21,680
Speaker 3: extend his contract with Paris Saint Jermaint. What's up with that?

1785
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 6: So we we've talked about Paris and Germaine before. This

1786
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 6: is kind of this was the super team really put

1787
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 6: together with Killing Himbape, Lionel Messi and Brazil's Neymar. Obviously Neymar,

1788
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 6: they are just kind of getting up there in age

1789
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:36,000
Speaker 6: and injuries kind of kept him out of the spotlight.

1790
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 6: E and l Messi. Of course, we'll talk about him

1791
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:42,680
Speaker 6: later on, but he's headed to Stateside to enter Miami now.

1792
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 6: Killing Himbope has told the club that he does not

1793
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 6: want his contract extended currently through I believe twenty twenty

1794
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:56,599
Speaker 6: four is when it would run out or somewhere. Actually

1795
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 6: I think it's the summer of twenty twenty five, but

1796
01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 6: I'm not mistaken either way. It was a few he

1797
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 6: told the club that they wouldn't He didn't want to,

1798
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:06,559
Speaker 6: you know, extend his contract. He has eyes elsewhere at

1799
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 6: this point. He's not happy with the club. But the

1800
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 6: club is now fired back and apparently that they have

1801
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:14,920
Speaker 6: now set a deadline of July thirty first from Bob

1802
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 6: A to commit until at least the summer of twenty

1803
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:17,920
Speaker 6: twenty five.

1804
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:21,599
Speaker 3: I saw that what do you experist? So we got

1805
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 3: a stand off here, what do you expect is going

1806
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:26,760
Speaker 3: to happen, because otherwise he could have played this year

1807
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 3: and next year. I believe go ahead, So.

1808
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 6: I expect him to stick to his guns the club.

1809
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:36,639
Speaker 6: The club's not to let him go on a free transfer,

1810
01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 6: and I think that is why there's a lot of

1811
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 6: the saber rattle at rattling right now. And then free

1812
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:43,600
Speaker 6: transfer in soccer would mean that he basically comes a

1813
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:45,800
Speaker 6: free agent. He walks out there. They don't want that.

1814
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:48,080
Speaker 6: They want something for him, and they know that he

1815
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 6: wants to go play for Real Madrid, and they they

1816
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 6: PSG I think at this point realizes that this party's over.

1817
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 6: The best they can do is try to get a

1818
01:42:57,479 --> 01:43:00,200
Speaker 6: king's ransom for him. So they're really just hoping he'll

1819
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 6: at least play ball at least a little bit. If

1820
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 6: he's going to really shut the door on this, then

1821
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 6: they've got to at least show that they're strong. And

1822
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:08,599
Speaker 6: I think, you know, well, we'll see, we'll see basically

1823
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 6: what's going to match with king's ransom, and or they'll

1824
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 6: they'll they'll spite him, throw him somewhere else and then

1825
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:15,559
Speaker 6: he'll move to Real Madrid. Either way, I think he's

1826
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:19,400
Speaker 6: going to Real Madrate here within the next year.

1827
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:22,679
Speaker 3: So all the stars on the move, not the least

1828
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 3: of which the aforementioned Lionel Messi. He's on his way

1829
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:27,360
Speaker 3: to the States.

1830
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:29,840
Speaker 1: Chris, Yes, he is.

1831
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:33,080
Speaker 6: So he's actually on the debut here, not quite actually,

1832
01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:34,920
Speaker 6: I don't think his first match is going to be

1833
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 6: a strictly MLS League match is going to be in

1834
01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 6: what's called the leagues, the League's Cup, which is between

1835
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:47,479
Speaker 6: MLS and the Mexican League MX. It's kind of been

1836
01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:50,439
Speaker 6: It's supposed to be held every summer through both both

1837
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 6: leagues play. There's been some conflicts in the last few years,

1838
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:58,639
Speaker 6: there's only really been two play. But he'll be debuting

1839
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:01,680
Speaker 6: as in to Miami takes on a zool. I think

1840
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 6: what's fascinating is kind of how Injo Miami's kind of

1841
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 6: set up their club to be friendly to Lionel Messi.

1842
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 6: They hired Tata Martino as their manager, who you know,

1843
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:15,719
Speaker 6: in the past managed Messi for the Argentina national team.

1844
01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:21,200
Speaker 6: They have brought in a former Sergeyo Buscott, who is

1845
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 6: a former legend also from Barcelona, his old club, and

1846
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:28,679
Speaker 6: they're also apparently, according to the Athletic Targeting Jordi Alba,

1847
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:34,559
Speaker 6: another athletic, another man from Barcelona, Spanish defender. So obviously

1848
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:36,760
Speaker 6: they're trying to get the band back together here. It

1849
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:40,640
Speaker 6: is going to butt into the into the club's designated

1850
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 6: player spots. This is something unique to MLS.

1851
01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 3: They have.

1852
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:45,760
Speaker 6: You have three each club has three spots called a

1853
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 6: DT and the designated player basically does not count against

1854
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:52,000
Speaker 6: the salary cap. And this is kind of how they're

1855
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:55,680
Speaker 6: able to do. Have Leonel Messi, who scat's also going

1856
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 6: to count, is also going to be set as designated player.

1857
01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 6: But they have three players right now on the designated

1858
01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 6: player role, so someone's going to get cut at some point.

1859
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:08,400
Speaker 6: But you know, it's it's welcome reinforcements that you're inter

1860
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 6: Miami because right now in the East they are sitting

1861
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:14,720
Speaker 6: dead last at fifteenth in the Eastern Conference. One to

1862
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 6: seven in MLS makes the playoffs. They have seventeen points

1863
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:22,080
Speaker 6: after about twenty matches, and when Lionel Messi gets back

1864
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:25,599
Speaker 6: through the League's Cup, you'll have about twelve games and

1865
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 6: maybe we'll see if Inter Miami can work some magic

1866
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:30,479
Speaker 6: thing in the playoffs this year. I don't know if

1867
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 6: they will.

1868
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:31,920
Speaker 4: It's a bit of a hole.

1869
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 6: And I don't know if this is just kind of,

1870
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 6: you know, a Gareth Bale situation where you just plug

1871
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:37,800
Speaker 6: him in and just go straight to the playoffs. But

1872
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 6: you know, he's Leonel Methi. He's the greatest in the world.

1873
01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm an agreement, and he finally got the crown

1874
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:47,640
Speaker 3: jewel with capturing the World Cup last year. It's my

1875
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:50,160
Speaker 3: understanding he's making his debut July twenty first, but I

1876
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 3: have to double check that.

1877
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 6: Yes, that's July twenty first, and it'll be against the

1878
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 6: Mexican side, cruz Azul, so that that should be very fun.

1879
01:45:57,920 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 6: I don't usually pay attention to the League's Cup. I'm

1880
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:02,080
Speaker 6: sure it will get a very good rating though.

1881
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:06,439
Speaker 3: All Right, Finally, I made the mistake of asking last

1882
01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:09,800
Speaker 3: week if you expected USA to defeat Trinidad, and you said,

1883
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:11,920
Speaker 3: if they lose to Trinidad, we were in big trouble.

1884
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 3: What was it six to nothing final? Chris? Is that

1885
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 3: something like that? Yeah?

1886
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 6: They they've been how they house them and they house

1887
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 6: Saint Kitts and Nevits like they They've gone through and

1888
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 6: done exactly what I expected them to see them do

1889
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 6: at this Gold Cup, probably even better, considering this is

1890
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 6: a c's side squad. I can't say the same about

1891
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 6: Mexico though we lost to like the Mexico's through to

1892
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:34,800
Speaker 6: the knockout station. Don't get it twisted, but they lost

1893
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:38,760
Speaker 6: to Katar guitar who's playing in the CONCACAPP Gold Gold Cup.

1894
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 6: Like beat Mexico.

1895
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:43,640
Speaker 3: Well, then Katar also upset Argentina before Argentina went on

1896
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 3: to win the Cup.

1897
01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 6: I do not I believe h got my memory of

1898
01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 6: the World Cup of bums.

1899
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:52,760
Speaker 3: Well, here's where I want to focus more on the

1900
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 3: USA quickly because they play Canada this weekend. And tell

1901
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:01,000
Speaker 3: me if I'm wrong. I deserve this team. We have

1902
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:02,439
Speaker 3: more team speed than I've ever seen.

1903
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 6: No, I think, I think what you're seeing here with

1904
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 6: the United States side again, because this isn't about like

1905
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 6: the second or third tier for a lot of these guys.

1906
01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:12,479
Speaker 6: A lot of these guys are playing hungry. They want

1907
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:15,400
Speaker 6: to show the US men's national team like, hey, we

1908
01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 6: matter too, just because we're playing in analysts, just because

1909
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 6: we're not playing over in Europe. We're very good too.

1910
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 6: And I think these guys who are out there are

1911
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:25,360
Speaker 6: playing with some hunger. They got punched in the faces first,

1912
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:28,040
Speaker 6: you know, in the first round by Jamaica, but they've

1913
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 6: just been beating up everyone ever since. Canada is not

1914
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 6: a very strong side. They've got a really good star

1915
01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:37,360
Speaker 6: in Davies, but like they've shown in this conference, I

1916
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 6: mean in this tournament so far, they've been fairly weak.

1917
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:44,960
Speaker 6: They drew it with Guatemala, they lost. They beat Cuba

1918
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:47,679
Speaker 6: by two goals, But I expect the USA to handle them.

1919
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:51,559
Speaker 6: Maybe not a six goal housing like saying like turned

1920
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:53,320
Speaker 6: out Tobago, but something similar.

1921
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:57,360
Speaker 3: Could you ask when the Gold Cup do you expect?

1922
01:47:57,640 --> 01:47:59,960
Speaker 6: I believe so. I don't think there's a lot of

1923
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:03,559
Speaker 6: There's no other as weak as Mexico's. Look, I don't

1924
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:07,559
Speaker 6: think there's any other competition. I honestly, I'm going to

1925
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:10,920
Speaker 6: give Mexico's playing Costa Rica. I give them a pretty

1926
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:14,680
Speaker 6: good chance of beat Mexico. So like, if Mexico's out

1927
01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:16,559
Speaker 6: of the picture, I don't think there's anyone who can

1928
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:18,919
Speaker 6: hold the field against the United States.

1929
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:21,680
Speaker 3: So we're up against the time wise, But in the

1930
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:25,360
Speaker 3: past you have introduced us to names like Earling, Holland

1931
01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 3: and Jose Mourinho. You've got another one. Let's save that

1932
01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:30,360
Speaker 3: for Saturday night in Chris Profet's World of Soccer.

1933
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:33,960
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, I was just given them a name right

1934
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:35,720
Speaker 6: now as a bit of a tease. But we will

1935
01:48:35,720 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 6: come back tomorrow night with Rasmus Hoyland, who might be

1936
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:41,400
Speaker 6: united the answer to Earling Holland.

1937
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:45,760
Speaker 3: Wow, that's saying something because man Earling Holland falls out

1938
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:47,720
Speaker 3: of Ben's scores goals. All right, good stuff, Chris. We'll

1939
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:52,519
Speaker 3: see in twenty four hours. That is Chris Purfett's World

1940
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:57,439
Speaker 3: of Soccer. Never a shortage of news surrounding im bopwe

1941
01:48:57,640 --> 01:49:02,439
Speaker 3: and in Bope and of course Lionel Messi and the

1942
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:05,599
Speaker 3: Gold Cup continues with the United States. And by the way,

1943
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 3: we're less than thirty days away now from the Women's

1944
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:10,919
Speaker 3: World Cup in Paris, where the US is a favorite.

1945
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:16,679
Speaker 3: Coming up the much anticipated debut of one Victor winban

1946
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:19,840
Speaker 3: Yama here in Las Vegas. Took place a Friday night,

1947
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:22,000
Speaker 3: and give you our quick thoughts as we wrap up

1948
01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 3: the show. I'm Bernie Fraddle Company live from the Las

1949
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:27,439
Speaker 3: Vegas Fox Sports Radio tyrack dot Com studios. Keep it

1950
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:30,000
Speaker 3: locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show

1951
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:44,680
Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio. HUD wrapping it up on the

1952
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:47,439
Speaker 3: Bernie Frattle Show Fox Sports Radio Company live from the

1953
01:49:47,479 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 3: Tyraq dot Com studios here in Las Vegas. Before going

1954
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 3: any further, I want to thank my broadcast team back

1955
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:55,519
Speaker 3: in Los Angeles. They'd been with me since eleven o'clock

1956
01:49:56,080 --> 01:50:01,519
Speaker 3: eleven pm Pacific on Friday night, having figures on the updates.

1957
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:05,599
Speaker 3: Mark Ramsey are technical producer, and of course Ethan Miller

1958
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:09,080
Speaker 3: turning all the dials, keeping us glued together, and be

1959
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:13,280
Speaker 3: back on these airwaves again Saturday night, eleven pm Pacific

1960
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 3: Friday night. You know, perhaps Britney Spears proved a point,

1961
01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:21,479
Speaker 3: a point I've been saying for years, and that is

1962
01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:24,639
Speaker 3: that one of the reasons to go to the NBA

1963
01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:28,200
Speaker 3: Summer League here in Las Vegas is because it's like

1964
01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:34,360
Speaker 3: going to Madame Tussaud's for all things NBA past, present, future.

1965
01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:37,080
Speaker 3: You show up, you keep your head on a swivel,

1966
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:41,080
Speaker 3: and you will see Spencer Heywood and Jerry West and

1967
01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 3: Kareem Abdul Jabbar. You'll see Steve Kerr, You'll see coaches, announcers,

1968
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:49,040
Speaker 3: and then of course you see the future. In the future,

1969
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:56,479
Speaker 3: at least Friday night was Victor Wiman Yama so sell

1970
01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:59,599
Speaker 3: out crowd tickets on the aftermarket going for one hundred

1971
01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:03,479
Speaker 3: and six courtside seats going for twelve hundred. There must

1972
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:06,040
Speaker 3: have been a show in town, right, Well, how did

1973
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:12,759
Speaker 3: Wimby do? Well? Here's what I thought. He's got great handles.

1974
01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 3: He's certainly got a hell of a wingspan, looks like

1975
01:51:16,280 --> 01:51:19,920
Speaker 3: a seven forty seven, very good vision. He's a good passer,

1976
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:22,439
Speaker 3: showed me good instinct, showed him maturity. But he did

1977
01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:26,639
Speaker 3: get knocked off balanced in traffic more than once. He's

1978
01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:30,559
Speaker 3: got to get stronger. In terms of NBA's Summer League debuts,

1979
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:35,040
Speaker 3: was not great, not great. Zion had an incredibly great

1980
01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:38,519
Speaker 3: debut back in twenty nineteen. Devin Booker looked like a

1981
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:42,520
Speaker 3: boy mean against boys soda. Damian Lillard, so did Andrew Wiggins.

1982
01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:45,759
Speaker 3: Not so much. But the thing is, the Summer league's

1983
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:49,320
Speaker 3: a fickle beast. You're drafted and less than a month

1984
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:51,640
Speaker 3: later they shuffle you off to Vegas. They put you

1985
01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:55,400
Speaker 3: on a patchwork team and you're supposed to dominate and

1986
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 3: you only got seven games to do it. And frankly,

1987
01:51:57,520 --> 01:51:59,280
Speaker 3: my moles are telling me that Gwym and Yamo will

1988
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:02,479
Speaker 3: play Sunday in then he's gonna have two games. So

1989
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:07,000
Speaker 3: reactions are instantaneous, getting creamed on Twitter, comparing them to

1990
01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 3: Sean Bradley and Chuck Nevitt and you name it, right, man,

1991
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:13,479
Speaker 3: minute bull, Get the guy a chance. He's played one

1992
01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:15,880
Speaker 3: game all right. By the way, you know, I remember

1993
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 3: when Lonzo Ball broke in in twenty seventeen with the Lakers.

1994
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:21,960
Speaker 3: He was crushed. He shot two of fifteen in his

1995
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:26,400
Speaker 3: summer league debut. But he's except for injuries, Lonzo Ball

1996
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:32,639
Speaker 3: has actually gone on to have a serviceable NBA career.

1997
01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:36,360
Speaker 3: But this Madame Tusson's thing is real. Even before the game,

1998
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:38,559
Speaker 3: the game prior when we took a little long and

1999
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:41,160
Speaker 3: he was in the tunnel and he was peaking out

2000
01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:43,519
Speaker 3: when the other game was going on and people were cheering,

2001
01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:46,120
Speaker 3: and he was just peaking out and he had players

2002
01:52:46,120 --> 01:52:50,240
Speaker 3: around him, and he was so tall, he was too

2003
01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:54,280
Speaker 3: tall for the entrance. Actually he stood out right. He

2004
01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:57,599
Speaker 3: comes on for warm ups, he does a layup line,

2005
01:52:57,960 --> 01:53:02,920
Speaker 3: his height, his presence, every eye all seventeen five hundred

2006
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:05,080
Speaker 3: were on Victor Wimbiyama, which is a lot to ask

2007
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 3: for for a nineteen year old man. His game. They

2008
01:53:10,360 --> 01:53:15,440
Speaker 3: tip off. It was bumpy, but there was something graceful

2009
01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:18,360
Speaker 3: about it, but bumpy, if that makes any sense. He

2010
01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:22,640
Speaker 3: blocks some shots, he pulled down some rebounds, misses his

2011
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:25,640
Speaker 3: first three attempts, then on shot number four, makes a

2012
01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:28,080
Speaker 3: nice little turnaround, switches to a left hand kiss off

2013
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:32,000
Speaker 3: the glass, draws a file and one. It was really

2014
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:35,880
Speaker 3: sort of a sigh of relief for the crowd, part excitement,

2015
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 3: part sigh of relief because they came to see him

2016
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:44,760
Speaker 3: make no mistake. Then he proceeded to miss missed a

2017
01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:49,360
Speaker 3: few more shots, missed again, two or thirteen from the floor,

2018
01:53:49,400 --> 01:53:52,000
Speaker 3: one to six from behind the yard. He hit the

2019
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:55,799
Speaker 3: floor hard one time. The arena collectively held its breath.

2020
01:53:56,080 --> 01:54:00,640
Speaker 3: Then he bounces up, and perhaps that is symbolic and

2021
01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:06,520
Speaker 3: metaphorical for what Victor Wombenyama's career might be. He had,

2022
01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:11,000
Speaker 3: you know, a very insignificant night, a very highly scrutinized night,

2023
01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:14,120
Speaker 3: and what is nothing more than an exhibition game, finished

2024
01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:18,400
Speaker 3: with nine points, eight rebounds, three assists, five blocks, played

2025
01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:22,200
Speaker 3: twenty six minutes. By the way, this is just the beginning.

2026
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:26,360
Speaker 3: I don't really know how good Victor wombin Yama is

2027
01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:30,280
Speaker 3: going to be in this league. I don't. I've talked

2028
01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:34,000
Speaker 3: about it before. When you're seven to five or seven

2029
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 3: three and a half whatever he measured, is a human

2030
01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:38,360
Speaker 3: body really made to go up and down the floor

2031
01:54:38,440 --> 01:54:40,200
Speaker 3: ninety four feet eighty two nights a year. You know

2032
01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:42,880
Speaker 3: it doesn't play eighty two nights a year. Just work

2033
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:49,720
Speaker 3: with me, up down, taking contact, running your lanes two

2034
01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:54,440
Speaker 3: minutes and every eye was on him, and it kind

2035
01:54:54,440 --> 01:54:57,160
Speaker 3: of reminded me. I talk about this is my book.

2036
01:54:57,200 --> 01:54:59,840
Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety four, My first credential was the night

2037
01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:05,080
Speaker 3: OJ Chase. For a full year, every time after that,

2038
01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:06,720
Speaker 3: I walked into a press box where there was an

2039
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:10,360
Speaker 3: NFL game, an NBA game, a college football game, a

2040
01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 3: Red Wings game, or certainly Major League Baseball, there were

2041
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:18,040
Speaker 3: always luminaries, and I look around and I'm not starstruck,

2042
01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:21,120
Speaker 3: but I'm in awe of the accomplishments of the people

2043
01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 3: that are in your bathing the air. And I'll never forget.

2044
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 3: I got a kick out of this because when Michigan

2045
01:55:27,320 --> 01:55:30,720
Speaker 3: lost to Colorado in nineteen ninety four, when Cordell Stewart

2046
01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:33,040
Speaker 3: threw that seven yard pass with time running out and

2047
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 3: Michael Westbrook, the receiver caught it in the end zone

2048
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 3: to beat Michigan, and the crowd went silent. Of course, coincidentally, ironically,

2049
01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:44,000
Speaker 3: Westbrook had gone to high school in Detroit. Well, I

2050
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:46,240
Speaker 3: show up in the press box that day, first time ever,

2051
01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:48,600
Speaker 3: had credential for Michigan football. So do I see on

2052
01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:51,640
Speaker 3: the call that day, Keith Jackson? Let me tell you,

2053
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:57,160
Speaker 3: and I'll never forget. I was so stupid and immature.

2054
01:55:57,600 --> 01:55:59,560
Speaker 3: And I remember walking up to him because I was

2055
01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:01,840
Speaker 3: a big fan, and I said, Yo, mister Jackson, I

2056
01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:04,640
Speaker 3: gotta tell you, it's pleasure to meet you. I love

2057
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:06,320
Speaker 3: the way you talk. He looks at me with a

2058
01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:09,320
Speaker 3: straight face and says, well, we're got to talk fun here. Well,

2059
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:11,600
Speaker 3: we don't think fun here. And I'm thinking to myself,

2060
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:14,200
Speaker 3: why did I just do that? Because I knew I

2061
01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:17,560
Speaker 3: was seeing somebody special, somebody different, somebody who could make history.

2062
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:21,320
Speaker 3: And there's a parallel. I think we saw that tonight

2063
01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:24,520
Speaker 3: Friday night in Las Vegas. Not knowing where this is

2064
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 3: gonna go. The world is his oyster. He's got his

2065
01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:30,920
Speaker 3: whole life ahead of him. But there's no guarantees. But

2066
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:34,080
Speaker 3: for one night, I will tell you. Victor Wiman Yama,

2067
01:56:34,720 --> 01:56:38,040
Speaker 3: he was that starstruck part of Madame Tussad's that has

2068
01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:41,440
Speaker 3: made the NBA Summer League so great. That'll do it

2069
01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:44,040
Speaker 3: for the Bernie Frontal Show. Keep It Locked up. Next,

2070
01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:47,240
Speaker 3: Chris plank In for Anthony Argano. Keep it Locked Fox

2071
01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:47,960
Speaker 3: Sports Radio.