WEBVTT - Riddick, Leipold on Saints Podcast | April 30, 2025 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:09.680 Welcome in to the New Orleans Saints Podcast, presently by Seatcake. 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:14.200 You'll hear from players, coaches, broadcasters, and writers that cover 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:18.400 the NFL on a daily basis. The New Orleans Saints 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:25.080 Podcast starts right now. Here's your host, Aaron Summers. 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:30.520 Welcome into the New Orleans Saints Podcast. Aaron Summers here 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:34.360 to break down the NFL draft picks. The draft brought 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:37.000 twenty new players to the Saints, between the draft and 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.960 undrafted free agents, starting with an offensive tackle from Texas 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:43.080 Kelvin Banks junior at number nine. 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:45.720 Oh great, I mean it was awesome, kind of like 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:48.239 like everybody always say a dream come true, just not 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:51.320 knowing where you're gonna go, so being anxious and then 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:53.920 want you to fill your phone vibrating. You answered the 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.880 phone and you hear the GM and head coach talking 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:58.240 to you is kind of a soberer moment. 0:00:58.320 --> 0:00:59.360 So it was very exciting for me. 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:01.880 Today we're going to dive a little deeper on the 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:05.360 offensive players drafted, talk to some analysts and even some 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:08.200 college coaches to find out who we're getting here in 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:12.039 New Orleans. Locked On Saints' host Ross Jackson joined me 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.240 on our Saints twenty twenty five Draft recap show and 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:18.319 had this to share about the Saints first round pick. 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:20.040 Not a lot of people are going to be excited 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:22.119 about the offensive lineman, but you know all the things 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.640 that people do get excited about, the big runs, the 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:28.560 breakaway plays, the big passes downfield. Those guys are the 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:30.840 people that make that happen. If they don't hold up 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.160 in front of that quarterback, in front of that running back, 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.520 then those big plays don't get an opportunity to take place. 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:37.720 So I think that's one of the things that you 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:40.160 get from them, and you get an excellent leader as well. 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:41.640 When it comes to him in the locker room, his 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.240 teammate Vernon Broughton spoke a bit about that. We'll talk 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:46.039 about him a little bit later, but I think that 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:48.120 what Calvin Banks gives you with somebody that's going to 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:50.760 be able to contribute most immediately versus a run blocker 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:52.640 has some development to do as a pass blocker, but 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:54.440 I think has every tool set he needs to get there. 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:56.600 You can watch the full show on the Gulf Coast 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.400 Sports and Entertainment Network or at New Orleans Saints dot 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:03.200 Com or our Saints YouTube channel. Get more insight from 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:06.520 Ross on all of our draft picks, the undrafted, free agents, 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:10.000 and what's ahead for the Saints. It was the Saints' 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:13.760 second pick, number forty overall, Louisville quarterback Tyler Shuck that 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.720 made the most noise. Maybe because of his age or 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:19.520 previous injuries, or maybe because you just wanted the Saints 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:23.120 to draft someone else. However, there is one former NFL 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:27.560 player now analyst who absolutely loves this pick, and that 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:31.639 is Lewis Ridick. Riddick joined me to share why. Lewis, 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:33.040 thank you so much for joining me on the New 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:37.160 Orleans Saints podcast. It has been a busy weekend. We 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.480 finally made it through the draft, which I always am 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.040 happy about because I hate all the speculation. I which 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.680 want to know what it's going to look like. And 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:50.560 for Saints fans, second round, fortieth pick overall is quarterback 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:54.959 Tyler Shuck out of Louisville. Mixture reviews by the fan base, 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:56.639 but I know it's somebody you've been high on. 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.799 Why, well, this starts going all the way back to 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:03.640 the ball. I got to see Louisville play twice. We 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:08.200 called two of their games for ESPN. Got to see 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.320 him play at home against SMU got to see him 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:14.120 play on the road at Clemson, So it starts there. 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:17.120 Jeff and Brian Brom, the head coach and offensive coordinator 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.679 quarterback coach at at Louisville, or good friends of mine. 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.640 I've known Jeff since the year, since two thousand. We 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.440 both played a little fun fact in the XFL together 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.799 back in the old Orlando Rage days, back in in 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.080 the two thousand seasons. So I've known him a long time. 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.640 And Jeff and Brian there are two better quarterback teachers 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:38.520 in college football period. Jeff Brom should be a head 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:42.200 coach in the NFL. He's that damn good. And so 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.720 I knew that. When I started watching Louisvill's tape to 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:47.240 prepare for those games, I was. 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:50.000 Like, who the hell is this Tyler shub kid? And 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:51.960 how is he? How did I not know about him 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:52.440 before this? 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:55.080 Well, obviously, you know his journey has been a little unconventional, 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.360 having transferred twice, had some injuries, and you know, he 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:00.760 hasn't really been able to take off, and he hasn't 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:04.080 been in an offense like this. And so when I 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:06.400 watched the tape, I went down and I asked Jeff, 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.040 I said, look, he said, as. 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:09.640 Good as I think he is. I was like, holy shit, 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.800 this guy can play. And he's like, oh, he's damn good. 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:19.240 He's big, he's fast, he is smart, he's mature. The teammates, 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:20.200 the team loves him. 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.800 He can execute whatever discipline you want, whether it's from 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:25.880 under center, whether it's in the pistol, whether it's in 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.880 the gun, whether it's zone read, whether it's RPO, whether 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:33.080 it's you know, boots keepers, pushed the ball down the 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.920 field on you know, big shots down the field, timing round. 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.040 He can do it all. And I'm going, yeah, that's 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:38.839 what I've been seeing. 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:41.560 And he goes, yeah, he's just not a household name, 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.200 I said, but you just watch, just just watch as 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.279 he goes. And in that game, he was lights out. 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.560 In the SMU game, they lost the game. I mean, 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:53.360 Louisville's defense really struggled the first three quarters of the season. 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.600 And then we saw him again down to Clemson and 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:59.839 they won that game and Clemson had everything to play for, 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:04.000 and he was again lights out. Just watch his game 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:05.800 up in Notre Dame earlier in the season. He had 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:07.160 one of the best He had the best throw of 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:10.680 the year, the throat to Jacory Brooks, like the eighteen 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.720 yard touchdown pass back of the end zone where he's 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.080 rolling left and basically he doesn't even throw a three. 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:18.800 It's like a side arm throw, almost underhand and gets 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:22.080 smashed in the face. He throws like that all year long. 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:24.720 And so I'm sitting there going, you know, as the 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:29.640 season goes on. If Tyler Shuck had played for Alabama 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:34.680 or Clemson or USC or some other school like that 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:39.000 that was known for, you know, putting out big time quarterbacks, 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:41.960 or was on TV every single week in the primetime game, 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:44.240 there wouldn't be this talks around again. 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:47.160 As far as his age is concerned. Cares that he's 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:47.839 twenty five? 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.520 Who cares that he came out in the draft with 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:52.520 Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields. 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:53.160 Who cares? 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:56.800 As a matter of fact, at twenty five? Many teams 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.039 in the NFL and New Orleans isn't the only one. 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.240 I can promise you that, as I've talked to plenty, 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.400 isn't the only one who looked at that as a positive. 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:06.840 He's got a stable home life, he's married. 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.320 He's a guy who you know is gonna do all 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:11.320 the things off the field the right way. You know 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:13.560 that on the field, as far as his football character 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.919 is concerned, he is super smart, he is super athletic. 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:18.839 He's a guy who's been through a lot of adversity 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.000 already with the freak injuries that he's had, which I 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:24.800 can assure you NFL medical department said that does not 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.159 make him put him in some high risk category. The 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:30.760 nature of the injuries that he has suffered, it does 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.159 not put him in that. So for people thinking, all 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:34.760 of a sudden, the first time he gets touched he's 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.200 just gonna turn the dust, it's kind of like, get 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.280 a grip here, He's gonna be just fine. They were 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:43.360 freak injuries for him. And then when you just get 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:47.159 to the on the field exploits, just watch him play. 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:51.120 He can do everything in the pro game that Kellen 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.560 Moore is gonna ask him to do. And quite honestly, 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:55.680 Kellen's a perfect coach for him because it's gonna be 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:58.680 like a collaboration of things, a combination of what he 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.440 did well at Louisville, some of the stuff maybe that 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:02.800 he did at Texas Tech and. 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:04.920 The air raid. He can do it all. 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:08.800 And as long as the offensive line, running game and 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:09.960 the receivers are healthy. 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.400 Tyler Shuck's gonna have a hell of a career. He's 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:14.240 gonna have a hell of career. 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:18.360 So I think overall, we need to like stop looking 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:24.080 at the things that that comprise who this young man 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.640 is in such a negative way. His age doesn't mean 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:30.040 anything at all. Bo Knicks was older also, but they 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:31.920 then people say the same thing about bow Knicks when 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.800 he came out of Oregon. Who wants this twice transferred 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.320 older guy who was Johnny checked down and mister high 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.239 completion percentage at Oregon, ran in and played in an offense. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.080 It doesn't even really translate the NFL. You know who 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:43.960 wanted him. Sean Payton wanted him. 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:45.920 Sean Payton had him raided as one of the best 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.000 quarterbacks in the draft behind Jade and Daniels. 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:48.880 How'd that turn out? 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.440 Now, there's a lot of people sitting there going, you know, 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.520 with with the racers trying to go, oh, you know 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:57.720 what I had, I had bowenext rated really high? Oh bullshit, 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:01.120 No you didn't. So And I know there's a lot 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.640 of quarterback gurus, whisperers whatever you want to call him. 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:06.720 Who really like Tyler Shuck. 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:11.320 The draft complex that we kind of like operate in 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.520 the media world, the fan world. They kind of like 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:19.560 follow these typical stereo, these stereotypical methods of evaluating players, 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:22.280 and if they don't check these certain boxes, then they think, well, 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:24.720 he's not a franchise quarterback. Just throw him on the 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:28.240 trash heap. NFL teams don't do that, Okay. I know 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:30.400 there's some people. You know, you can you can bash 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.319 the NFL for missing on quarterbacks. You can you can 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.360 praise the NFL for hitting on quarterbacks. People in the 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:39.840 NFL like this guy, And I can see exactly why 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.880 Kellen Moore really likes this guy. I can see exactly 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:46.160 why a lot of other quarterback whisperers and gurus and 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:47.640 who are both in the league and out of the 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:49.880 league really like this guy. I can see why Jeff 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:54.600 Brohm loved this guy. That's why people should just kind 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.800 of like chill out, let him get in there, learn 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:01.080 the system, get with Kellen, and then get on the 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.079 football field, because a lot of the stuff that he's 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:06.760 been through from an adversity standpoint are all the kind 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:08.600 of things that you don't know how some guys are 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.120 going to react to that kind of stuff until they 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:10.520 go through it. 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:11.520 He's already been there. 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.840 Yeah, and you already know what he's made of and 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:16.440 his skills on the field. 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:18.480 You can't really question him. 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:26.079 So yeah, that's about a three minute, you know, soapbox 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:29.080 oration right there. I gave you as to why I 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:30.640 believe in the guy, and I know and I've talked 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:31.959 to him multiple times. 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:34.600 I love everything about the kid. Everything. 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:38.200 And if there's somebody who I trust, it's Jeff and 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:42.559 Brian Brown. They can coach it with the very best 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.679 of them. And I think Kellen Moore knows what he's 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:48.480 looking for in a quarterback too, So let's give him 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.680 the benefit of the doubt before we start just bashing 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:52.120 this guy. 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:54.280 And you know what, here's the last thing I'll say. 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.160 And you can edit this out if you want, but 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:58.559 I'm sorry, but I have to say it this way. 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.560 That little dumbass clip that's trending on Twitter about how 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:03.679 he you know, he missed that throw at the combine. 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.560 Learned some context behind that. Tyler had said before that 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:09.560 he was going to try some things at the combine 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:11.599 to try and impress people, as far as throwing the 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:14.120 football with different arm angles and stuff kind of like 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:16.280 to throw. He had the Jacory Brooks against Notre Dame, 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:18.600 but that probably wasn't the best of time to do 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:20.679 that because you're throwing the guys who you don't even know, 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.480 and it's not a game circumstance, and that's probably that's 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.640 not a good indication, like a good time to do that. 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.559 He did it once and then he stopped doing it, 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:31.200 and I remember when it happened. I'll sit in there 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.200 watching it live when it happened. I'm going I see 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.120 what he's trying to do. He needs to just throw 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:38.160 the football, and when he did, he's the best thrower there. 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:40.719 So when people put that up there and then they 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:42.760 put it on Twitter and say this is what the 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:46.360 Saints drafted, you're full of shit. And what you're doing 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:49.080 is you're trying to create a narrative that's inaccurate. And 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.240 if for anyone who buys into that, you're just as 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.000 full of shit as a person who put it up there. 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.480 So don't do that. But that's the world we live in, 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:02.800 right But you could not you could not have found 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:03.920 a bigger fan in the guy. 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:07.800 And I'm rooting like hell for him, and hopefully it 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.640 all turns out the way everybody ideally wants it to. 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.600 When he brought up the best throw that he had 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:15.360 this season, I was going to ask you about that 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:17.640 clip from the combine and what you saw there, So 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:22.560 thank you for addressing that. And then with Tyler Shuck, 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.000 he might not have been a household name because people 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.840 didn't know how to pronounce it. I mean, it's tough, right. 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:32.360 I had this conversation with I think I with my son. 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.240 He's like a dad. I saw your boy Tyler Shuck 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:37.960 went and I was like, he's like, why is his 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.320 name spelled like that? It's his name should be Tyler's Show. 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:41.120 I was like, Yeah. 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.000 When I when we first started preparing for for the 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.839 Louisville game the first time against SMU, I remember looking 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.160 at it and before we went down there, I was like, 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:51.120 this quarterback Tyler Show. 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.360 Never like it's shucked. I was like, it can't be 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:59.120 spelled s a jo. How's it shuck? Yeah, that's another 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.360 thing that I think people will have fun with. But 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:03.800 I'm sure people are going to. 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.959 Have some fun with the pronunciation of his name, especially 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:10.400 if he starts if he starts tearing it up down there. 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:13.880 Yeah, with the system that he played under at Louisville. 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.200 You said it was perfect for him coming in here 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.200 under a new head coach, and Kellen wore, we don't 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.760 know exactly what his system is going to look like. 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.959 When you have a new coach, usually they want to 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.480 get their guys in here. How much do you think 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.880 he is going to build a system around Shuck or 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.320 not going to be able to assimilate into whatever it 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:33.920 is that Moore wants to do. 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.400 Yeah, I think it's always the best systems that are 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:42.960 created are collaborative first and foremost. But I think if 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.679 you look at if you just break the individual components down, 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:49.360 you know, starting you know, with Kellen, just think of 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:50.120 the quarterbacks that. 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:51.120 He's coached recently. 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:54.199 He's coached Dak Prescott, He's coached Justin Herbert, he coach 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:57.719 Jalen Hurts. Those are three very different guys and all 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.000 of them played at a super high level underneath him, 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.280 and all of them, you know, I'm sure Kellen had 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:06.400 a very collaborative process with all three of them to say, hey, look, 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.360 what are the things that make you comfortable. What are 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:12.320 the things that you know that you feel most confident 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:15.560 in executing? This is basically this is These are the 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:19.040 basic fundamentals that I believe in terms of individual quarterback 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.440 play and then offensive philosophy. But let's work together to 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:23.439 get this, you know, ironed out, so we can get 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.800 you rolling at a high level. And the reason why 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:27.880 I'm sure he takes that approach is because Kellen played 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.559 the position and he knows that you just don't come 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:34.200 in and just hammer a quarterback into into a certain 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:37.240 role because that's how you feel they should play it. 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:39.960 It's always best when it's collaborative. It's always best when 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:43.840 there's a nice exchange of ideas. And I think you'll 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:45.559 see a little bit of everything with Tyler because he 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:47.280 can do a little bit of everything. He played in 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:49.840 an air raid, he played in a in a more 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.680 conventional pro style offense that emphasized being underneath center and 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:57.880 taking three five seven step drops, boots, keepers, rollouts thrown 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.880 from different platforms, operating from the pub. He's done all 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.520 that he's done. He's done just about all of it. 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.720 And the stuff that he was doing at Louisville is 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:09.880 just high level and that's probably stuff I'm sure when 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.600 Kellen was watching the tape, he's probably sitting there going 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:13.480 this is perfect. 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:18.360 This kid has done everything, and so what you do 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:19.960 is I mean, that gives. 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:23.240 You a lot of runway to really construct an offense 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:25.720 that ultimately is just going to move the ball and 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:29.080 put points on the board because Tyler can do it all. 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.560 So that's really. 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:34.360 The last of my worries as far as Kellen trying to, 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.480 you know, find that sweet spot with with Tyler and 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:37.960 what he can do. 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:39.560 That's that's the least of my concern. 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.080 There is the question mark right now the quarterback position 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:46.680 with the injury to Derek Carr. So that is something 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:48.640 that Kellen Moore is going to have to figure out 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.960 as well when implementing what his system is going to 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.760 look like. But when you bring in somebody that has 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:58.080 the experience that Schuck does, the age even in itself, 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:02.600 he said, the maturity, could he just seamlessly step in 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:03.280 if needed? 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.360 Yeah, I know, you never you never want to, Like 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.520 I'm trying to hold myself back as far as not 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:13.000 wanting to get too far ahead. But all the things 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:16.280 that right now people are and I say people in general, 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:20.200 that are pointing to us negatives, once he gets there, 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:24.920 it'll quickly turn to a positive because he is mature. 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.040 He is someone who's been through a bunch. He is 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.840 someone who's been in multiple systems. He's ahead of the 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:34.240 game compared to you know, typical rookie quarterbacks. We just 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:38.640 saw this play out with bow Nicks. We just saw it. 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:40.840 It's almost a carbon copy. It's a bo didn't have 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:45.560 the injury history that that Tyler had, which again I'm 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:47.680 not concerned with, because the medical people I talked to 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:51.560 who aren't concerned with. So it's all going to help 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:57.080 him and accelerate his his his growth trajectory in a 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:00.560 way that I'm sure will allow him step on to 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:04.200 the field much sooner than maybe most quarterbacks could and 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.040 or or should for that matter. That doesn't mean there 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:08.640 are gonna be bumps in the road, because there are. 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:10.520 I mean, the pro game is not at the ACC. 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:14.840 The program is not SMU and and Wake and UH. 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:16.520 And Clemson in Florida State. It's just not. 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.880 So he's gonna have isn't gonna be perfect, But I 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.920 can promise you he isn't gonna be overwhelmed. It isn't 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:25.440 gonna be one of those where if he throws an 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:28.000 interception or he has a he gets stripped sacked of 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:29.800 the ball in the pocket or makes a bad read. 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:31.640 He's gonna all of a sudden go in the tank 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:35.120 and look like you know, someone just stole his wallet, 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:36.960 and all of a sudden he's just lost. It's not 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.560 gonna be that. It's not gonna be that. He's gonna 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.080 make a hell of a lot more good plays than 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:45.320 bad ones. I'm I'm kind of like, I'm eerily not eerily. 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:49.520 I'm I'm uniquely calm about this one because of the 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.880 guy and who he is and who I got to 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.080 know and who I got to talk to, and the 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:56.640 kind of trust that I have, and the people who 0:16:56.680 --> 0:17:00.920 coach him. Jeff Brohm, the coach at Louisville, should be 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:04.240 in the NFL coaching if you were a GM and 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.199 you aren't going to Louisville trying to get him out 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:09.240 of there. And I'm not for all the Louisville fans, 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.520 I'm not trying to get Jeff brom you know. But 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:14.280 if you're a GM and you're not an interviewing him, 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.600 I don't know what you're doing. I just don't know 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:18.840 what you're doing. The dude knows how to coach it, 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.919 and so I think he has prepared. He has prepared 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:25.359 Tyler Shuck for everything that's come in his way. As 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.080 far as the challenge of being an NFL. 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.679 Quarterback, when do you step back and look at the 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.159 overall draft for the Saints, they did start with that 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:37.520 offensive tackle and Kelvin Banks junior. How much do you 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:42.240 value drafting alignment, whether it's either side, you know, building 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:43.120 from the inside out. 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:45.880 Kelvin, I'll tell you this. 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:49.239 I talked to Steve Sarkesian just about two or three 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:51.440 days before the draft, and I know sark Well. I 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:53.520 went down there and spoke to the University of Texas 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:57.399 their football team two years ago. He said that Kelvin 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.639 Banks is obviously he's a decades long plus book can tackle. 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:02.320 He said, there's no one that he trusted more on 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:04.760 his football team. If there's anybody who was tailor made 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:07.359 for the pro game to protect the quarterback's blind side 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.720 or whatever side you need to protect it, it's that 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:14.040 young man again, a guy who dealt with some difficult 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:17.000 circumstances during his time at Texas, whether it be not 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.960 playing totally healthy this year, personal issues with the health 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:23.320 of his mother. Continue to fight through it, continue to 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:28.400 be an absolute bedrock stalwart of their football program. And 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.240 again that's before you even get to the field. See, 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:35.840 I'm big on character and makeup, resiliency, forty two, whatever word. 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:37.679 You want to use. He has that. 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.439 He has it on top of the fact that he has, 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:46.239 you know, cannons for hands and has got like a 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:49.640 grip like Thanos, And he's strong and he's mobile, and he's. 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:50.000 Smart, and. 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:54.199 He plays one of the most coveted positions in all 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:56.159 of football. He can play at a high level. Of course, 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.360 that's a home run. That's an absolute home run type 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:02.040 of pick for them. And if you're Tyler Shuck, you're 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:05.000 going perfect. Thanks a lot, that'll help. 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:09.520 Yeah, the Saints drafted two players out of Texas and 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:14.200