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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Golds in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly, he

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson. It's a chili Monday here in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 2: but the show must go on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it's sunny, those snows melting, but you know, it

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Speaker 3: was a chili walking through the other wind tunnel here of.

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Speaker 2: Course, right here on Mount Olympus. But Matt, I thought

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Speaker 2: we would take a look at something here. This is

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Speaker 2: something that I've talked about in the past where everybody

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Speaker 2: is just wait until next year to draft this or that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now it makes me a little crazy.

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Speaker 2: So what I wanted to do here to kick off

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Speaker 2: today's show is go back and look at Field. Yates's Yates,

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Speaker 2: his initial mock draft, his preseason mock draft from this year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I mean that used to be Tom mcshay's job,

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Speaker 3: and I vividly remember talking to him a couple of times,

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Speaker 3: like my least favorite thing to do all year because

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Speaker 3: people hold you to it, and we're right kind of

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Speaker 3: holding Field to it. But it just gives you an

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Speaker 3: idea of how things change over the course drastically, drastically,

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Speaker 3: and there's so many quarterbacks. The Carson Wentz is the world,

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Speaker 3: the Baker Mayfield's. It never would have been on a

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Speaker 3: list like this to end up getting the top three

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Speaker 2: That's what he says here. He's like, look, last year,

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Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels didn't make the preseason.

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Speaker 3: Makes sense list, right right right. I'm sure cam Ward's

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Speaker 3: not on there because he was a transfer to and

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Speaker 3: late in his career and all that.

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Speaker 2: Right, So this came out August twenty first of last year. Okay,

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Speaker 2: well after the draft, right before the college football st.

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Speaker 3: You start the Monday after when we would do nothing

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Speaker 3: less than that.

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Speaker 2: I also want to remind people that the teams here

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Speaker 2: were placed where, because this is interesting as well. Who

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Speaker 2: they had picking where based on the Vegas overs and unders.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yah, yeah, it might even been FREESPN, it

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Speaker 2: Or whatever.

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Speaker 3: But it's not Fields's opinion. No, I think there going

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Speaker 3: to be first or thirty second or whatever, right right, right,

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Speaker 3: So Washington's pretty high.

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Speaker 2: He had the Giants picking first, but they traded up

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Speaker 2: with New England, who he thought would have the first

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Speaker 2: overall pick. Okay, and taking Carson Beck. How about that

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Speaker 2: quarterback out of Georgia. He's not even at Georgia anymore.

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Speaker 3: No, and he wasn't particularly good.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't particularly good. Right, you're number one overall pick?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? And he I mean, I'm not saying I know anything,

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Speaker 3: but I never he never passed a sniff test to

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Speaker 3: enough of him at Georgia saying I don't see first

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Speaker 2: No, right, nor did I. Number two, he had the

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Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers taking James Pierce Junior, the edge rusher out

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Speaker 3: No, probably not even the first edge rusher and a

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Speaker 2: At three, he had the Denver Broncos taking Kelvin Banks Junior,

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Speaker 3: Other high profile guy that had a nice career and

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Speaker 3: had a better twenty twenty three than twenty twenty four. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At four, he has the Tennessee Titans who owned the

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Speaker 2: first number one over OAM pick this year.

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Speaker 3: I thought then though, ill kicking their cover. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Taking Shador Sanders quarterback out of Colorado.

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Speaker 3: That's one that's kind of held up. I'm not the

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Speaker 2: At five he is the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 3: I knew they're gonna be soon and they end up

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Speaker 2: Taking mikel Williams ed rusher out of Georgia. Okay, that

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Speaker 2: At six, the Patriots after trading back with the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Will Johnson cornerback out of Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Seven Mason Graham defensive tackle out of Michigan to the

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Speaker 3: That's kind of funny, right, And at that point, you're

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Speaker 2: At eight.

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Speaker 2: At eight, he has the Raiders. I think the Raiders

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Speaker 2: ah interesting, yep, I think he goes third round at best,

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Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals taking Nick Scourton edge rusher out of Texas

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Speaker 3: The show, I don't think you will. But he hadn't

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Speaker 2: At ten, he has the Saints taking Will Campbell offensive

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Speaker 2: At eleven he has the Seahawks taking Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 2: At twelve, he has the Tampa Bay Buccaneers taking Benjamin

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Speaker 3: That's fair. You didn't know he's giving me a hurt. Right.

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Speaker 2: At thirteen, he has the Pittsburgh Steelers taking Tedoro McMillan

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Speaker 2: wide receiver from Arizona. Just a reminder, folks, going into

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again we have not mentioned the Bengals or Browns. No,

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Speaker 3: Luther Burton was also highly regarded. He's probably on this

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Speaker 2: At fourteen, the Indianapolis Colts take Malachi Stark's safety out

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Speaker 3: That might actually happen.

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Speaker 2: take Denzel Burke, cornerback out of Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: He was one of those five stars that gonna be

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Speaker 2: At sixteen the Cleveland Browns, they who have the number

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Speaker 3: I would go as high as a fourth because because

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Speaker 2: At seventeen the Chicago Bears. People were predicting the Chicago

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Speaker 3: Right after taking Caleb Williams. Best best environment at first

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Speaker 2: J T. Tumaloa edge rusher of Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: You got to think at this point, all those dudes

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Speaker 2: It gives you some like Penn State had a bunch

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Speaker 3: Wonder if Drew Awler is gonna be first overall next.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if they, you know, take a little step back,

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Speaker 3: It's a good point.

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Speaker 2: At eighteen, the Los Angeles Chargers take Colston Loveland how

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Speaker 3: Good not at eighteen, but it might have it.

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Speaker 2: At nineteen, the Rams take Luther Burden, the third wide

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Speaker 3: That's the neighborhood he'll go in. I think in round one.

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Speaker 2: New York Jets take Dione Walker, defensive tackle out of Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: Miss On all accounts, Jets certainly did not say they're

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Speaker 2: At twenty one, the Miami Dolphins, that divisionist fell apart

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Speaker 2: At twenty two, the Atlanta Falcons take Abdull Carter, edge

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Speaker 3: Pity Mike, right, I mean, he had a monster year

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Speaker 3: Micah Parsons like way. At this point he wasn't just

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Speaker 2: At twenty three, the Houston Texans take Harold Perkins, junior linebacker.

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Speaker 3: This year, I remember all the bars about this guy

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Speaker 3: I don't really even know what happened. Is he going

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Speaker 3: and I have not studied him during this draft cycle

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, same thing here at twenty four, the Green

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Speaker 2: Bay Packers take Patrick Payton, edge rusher out of Florida State.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't even know who he is. I probably

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Speaker 2: About twenty five, the Cincinnati Bengals didn't end up the

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Speaker 2: You know there's like eight Ohio State guys in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think they have fifteen of the combine

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Speaker 2: At thirty one the Kansas City Chiefs. He got that right.

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Speaker 3: I think you know less now than ever. Yeah, because

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Speaker 3: To do it, right, Like look at Smith from Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: He's not somebody who's in your area. Like this kid's

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Speaker 2: He's ever even better starter in Texas. Really, I mean,

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, he's got in games and yours got hurt.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt. News out of Cincinnati today that

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals will franchise Yeah T Higgins for a

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure he will. Yeah, an agent, well of course,

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Speaker 3: they can match it.

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Speaker 2: They can match, they can match, or if they don't,

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Speaker 3: Like I can't imagine if.

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Speaker 2: There have been I think some negotiations in the past. Word,

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Speaker 3: You can negotiate the compensation. Yeah right, Because I was

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Speaker 3: But it's definitely gonna peak keep some people from negotiating

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Speaker 2: I think it's a mistake for them, really.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to renegotiate. Well, that's not really a concession

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Speaker 2: No, no, not at all.

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Speaker 2: I think he gets traded because you're going to have,

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Speaker 2: You have to move them.

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Speaker 3: I think he gets traded.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's he's he was the only good thing

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Speaker 3: You know, they've put themselves in this situation, and I

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Speaker 3: I mean, your comp game might not even end up

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00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,920
Speaker 3: in your favor. I mean, he's really the only dude

439
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,159
Speaker 3: you're losing. You're cutting a bunch of defenders, and you

440
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,639
Speaker 3: got to sign a bunch of guys.

441
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:23,880
Speaker 2: What would be interesting?

442
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 3: I don't know how I would I handle that.

443
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 2: Let's say, for example, the Ravens signed T Higgins, but again,

444
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 2: you took you're talking about a late first round draft

445
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 2: pick this year. Yeah, yeah, and probably a late first

446
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 2: round pick next year.

447
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 3: And I would not be interested for the Steelers, No,

448
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 3: not with the picks.

449
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 2: But let's say the Ravens did want to do that,

450
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 2: and they you know, if you're the you're the Bengals,

451
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, we're getting two first round draft picks

452
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 2: back we'll got to play against this dude.

453
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,200
Speaker 3: Now, I don't know. There aren't many players in the

454
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,440
Speaker 3: league they are worth two one, no, and he isn't

455
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 3: one of them to me, even if they're both late ones.

456
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 3: Bill's Ravens Chief, you know, that type of deal. So

457
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 3: I don't know that that'll prohibit will change much for

458
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 3: the you know, when it all comes down to it,

459
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 3: it does give him time though they could still trade

460
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 3: him elsewhere. Yeah, they could work kind of deal if

461
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,640
Speaker 3: they thought. You know, like I keep coming back.

462
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 2: To Sam darn he would have to sign the tender though, right,

463
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 2: that's what he does.

464
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,360
Speaker 3: Have some pool in this. That's like the Left Bell situation.

465
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 3: He just never signed the franchise tag, so he wasn't

466
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 3: a football player, right.

467
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 2: This could be another situation where t Higgins just sits

468
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 2: out the entire preseason next.

469
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 3: Year and he don't want a long term deal. But

470
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 3: this is at least guaranteed for him, and that's a

471
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 3: nice chunk he's going to get no matter what. But

472
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 3: he may have thought he was gonna get thirty. He

473
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 3: gets nothing now nothing.

474
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 2: If he'd have been on the open market, he's going

475
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 2: to get about a fIF fifty to eighty million dollars.

476
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 3: Check that, and now you're getting zero. Yeah. So even

477
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 3: if he blows out his knee gets paid weekly. But

478
00:21:54,640 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 3: still yeah, and he doesn't an injury history. It like

479
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 3: Donald to me is another guy that could get franchised.

480
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 3: I don't know if he will, but in that situation,

481
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,439
Speaker 3: I would think you instead of letting him walk and

482
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 3: hopefully get in a comp pick a year from now.

483
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 3: For the Vikings, they look at it like, we know

484
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 3: the Raiders love them. Hypothetical we tag them, We'll trade

485
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 3: him for a third of the Raiders. They'll probably say yes,

486
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 3: give them the same deal and we can at least

487
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 3: get something back.

488
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 2: Now you get yeah, because we don't have any picks

489
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 2: in those around.

490
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 3: Send to begin with any day. Two picks right or

491
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,120
Speaker 3: this one I think is different. I think they want

492
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 3: to keep them and run it back.

493
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,360
Speaker 2: Looking at the franchise tag numbers for this year, it's

494
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 2: forty one point three forer quarterback, twenty seven for linebackers,

495
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 2: twenty five out for Donald, twenty five point six nine

496
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 2: for a wide receiver. Higgins is more expensive because it's

497
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 2: his second tag.

498
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he gets another ten percent on top.

499
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 2: Is that how that were yeah, offensive line is twenty

500
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 2: five point one, and it's so good because whether you're

501
00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 2: a center or guard doesn't matter. Defensive end is twenty

502
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 2: four point seven.

503
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 3: Which is different than linebacker.

504
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 2: Which is why Bud Dupree was at that point linebacker

505
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: was cheaper than the defensive lineman.

506
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

507
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, defensive tackle is twenty three point four, cornerback is

508
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: twenty point three, safety is nineteen point six, tight end

509
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 2: is fourteen point two, running back thirteen point six. And

510
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: kicker was just as special teamer. So kicker punter six

511
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: point four five nine, which is.

512
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 3: The best kicker in the league. That's not terrible, right.

513
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: That's skirting the rules of the franchise tag. It is,

514
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 2: that's not what the franchise tag was made for. Franchise

515
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: tag is we can't afford to lose this guy in

516
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 2: the open market, and that should never be a kicker.

517
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 3: It should never be a kicker. And the way I

518
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 3: remember the franchise tag coming around was I don't exactly

519
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 3: know what the Larry Bird rule was in NBA, but

520
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 3: it was basically, we don't want Bird and Magic and

521
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 3: Jordan to go to five different teams who want them

522
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 3: to hire as Celtics or whatever. I meanwhile, Lebron has anyways,

523
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 3: I mean, you only have so much control. But I

524
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 3: think that was a big thing that with how the

525
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 3: franchise was originated. The franchise tag was, you know, little

526
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 3: Johnny in Cincinnati that grew up loving T Higgins gets

527
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 3: to see him for more of his career. Yeah, but

528
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,719
Speaker 3: you know, as opposed to skirting the role for a kicker.

529
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 2: So looking here, and this is on CBS Sports, they're

530
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: projecting some possibilities for franchise tag guys, guys who could

531
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 2: get tagged. And I don't think there's gonna be a

532
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: lean year. Yeah, I don't think there's going to be

533
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: many for the Ravens. Ronnie Stanley, I can't see it.

534
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 3: That's a lot.

535
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 2: I can't see them tagging Ronnie Stanley at twenty five

536
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 2: point one million, right, because they also have to do something.

537
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 2: They have to pick up Lenderbaum's Fiftyeart's to pick up

538
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 2: Hamilton's fifty.

539
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 3: They're like, that's a lot of guaranteed money for three

540
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 3: guys that are quite good and important. But Stanley's on

541
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 3: a twenty five million dollar player? No, is that what

542
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 3: the number works? For a long yeah, twenty five point

543
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 3: one million. Yeah, no, I think he leaves. Yeah, I

544
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 3: don't think the other two will soon at least.

545
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: But for the Cowboys are saying, oh so DIGGI Zua,

546
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: I don't see it that way. You're not paying twenty

547
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: three point four million dollars from.

548
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 3: Now he'll make good money. Yeah, but he's not gonna

549
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 3: not that kind of money.

550
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: Uh. The Texans are not going to franchise Tag Steffon

551
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 2: Diggs at twenty seven, No, twenty five point six.

552
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: I'm off an injury and he wasn't phenomenal Hill's career.

553
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 2: For the Chiefs are saying Tray Smith, they're not going

554
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: to franchise Tag Tray Smith.

555
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 3: That's they're probably pissed off about how the rule is because.

556
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 2: Twenty five million dollars.

557
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, maybe you know, if it was even interior,

558
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 3: you consider it, but not all O line mixed together.

559
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 2: Uh. For the Rams Alaric Jackson, you're not paying Alaric

560
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: Jackson twenty five million dollars.

561
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 3: No. I mean, I know they have to write an

562
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 3: article and put some names on there, but there's not

563
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 3: really many legit names.

564
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 2: For the Dolphins. Javon Holland now Javon Holland ideally would

565
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 2: be a franchise tag candidate. Yeah, because I'm here good enough,

566
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: he's a good enough player.

567
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 3: They don't make money.

568
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 2: They don't have many money. He's not nineteen point six

569
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: million dollars. They're already five point four million over the cap.

570
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 3: They can't do it right, and that just goes immediately

571
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 3: guaranteed money.

572
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: It is twenty five million dollars yet in the camp.

573
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, he's gonna hit hit the market. Donald the

574
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 3: right situation, I could see him getting safety franchise tag money.

575
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 3: It's not from that team today, you know, Donald for

576
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 3: the Vikings, I think that's a maybe. But you kind

577
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 3: of screwed the player a little bit too. You want

578
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 3: to get something, but you'd love to get something back.

579
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: They gave Sam Donald ten million dollars last year.

580
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 2: For not doing anything close to what he did put

581
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: on the field last year, right, right, So I mean

582
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 2: they've done Sam Donald a pretty good favor. I'm yeah,

583
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 2: and he did, and he they got more than their

584
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: money's worth out of it.

585
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 3: The thing is, we've talked about them a lot. No

586
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 3: Day two picks. They have a ton of cap space

587
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 3: this second, but they.

588
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: They get a bunch of free agents.

589
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 3: So many free agents, like the entire secondary, all their corners,

590
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 3: positions like interior line that they'd like to fix. They

591
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: can't because you only have one prominent pick and you

592
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 3: need to go outside the organization or keep your own.

593
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 3: So if they tag him, I bet that's he's on

594
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 3: the books for like twenty four hours, you know, tagging trade. Yeah,

595
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 3: unless they consider trade McCarthy, which I don't think they would.

596
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: For the Jets, it's DJ Reid to stretch. I don't

597
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: see that happening for the Eagles.

598
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 3: Zach Bond, that one's a possibility. I mean, he was

599
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 3: a All Pro linebacker, not a Pro Bowl linebacker. I

600
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: forget what the number you said.

601
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 2: Was twenty seven million for linebacker.

602
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 3: That's more like TJ. Wat being called a linebacker. Yeah,

603
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, that's another one of those discrepancies.

604
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 3: If you're a true off the ball guy, that's more

605
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: of Fred Warner's making, that's more than anybody's making. You

606
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 3: can't do that.

607
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: I mean, he's they have eighteen million in cap space,

608
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: so they that would mean they would just be saying

609
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: goodbye to everybody else.

610
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 3: Everybody else, right, because.

611
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: They'd have to do some serious jockeying just to get

612
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: under the cap.

613
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 3: I mean, the only way I could see them doing

614
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: is if they were close to a deal when the

615
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 3: deadline hits for franchise tag and they just want to

616
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 3: buy another week of talks, you know.

617
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: Which is there is some of that and you can

618
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 2: doesn't happen, right that?

619
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that is a tactic that makes some sense.

620
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they mentioned well just uh Russell Wilson and Justin

621
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 2: Fields at forty one point tagging. I've even seen people being, well,

622
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: maybe they'll use a transition tag on him. Nobody's used

623
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: the transition tag in years. It might as well not

624
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: even still exist.

625
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kind of rusty on my definition of it too.

626
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: That just gives you the ability to match.

627
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think that that was what they did

628
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 3: with Lamar. I think they did so Lamar.

629
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: They did a non exclusive franchise.

630
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it basically was just saying, if somebody's

631
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 3: gonna give you the deal you think you get, will

632
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: just match it. I mean, and nobody even bothered because

633
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 3: they knew that he wasn't leaving Baltimore.

634
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the transition tag, you don't get any picks

635
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: in return. No, you just get the ability to match.

636
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: And that's that's where the you know you had the

637
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: poison pill come back to Hudginson and stuff if he

638
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: plays half of his games in Seattle, well or Minnesota,

639
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: and it went, Yeah, that that kind of screwed that one.

640
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: It just doesn't get used.

641
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't get used anymore.

642
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,719
Speaker 2: It's a it's a jumping off point for some of

643
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: the fifty year options stuff because you get the different legage.

644
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

645
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, I just don't expect a lot of them

646
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: this year. I think just maybe one plus the numbers.

647
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: The numbers are just extreme.

648
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 3: They are, they are, But the boy.

649
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: The CAP's going up quick and the league's really not

650
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: going up quick enough to not for some of these.

651
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: You've got four franchise tag numbers that are north of

652
00:29:54,840 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: twenty five million dollars. Twenty five million plus is quarterback money.

653
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean it just is.

654
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 3: It is. I was going to stop you when you

655
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,719
Speaker 3: started doing the positions what they all cost franchise wise.

656
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: The only one that's a deal is tight end to me,

657
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 3: Like if you were Gronk coming off your first your

658
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 3: Kelsey coming off your first and you can pay them

659
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: like twelve million or whatever it was. If you're a stud,

660
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: then it's a steal.

661
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: Would you. I mean, look at the running back number.

662
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: The first time the Steelers tagged Levon Bell, it was

663
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: like twelve point six if I remember correct.

664
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: So it hasn't changed that much.

665
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: It hasn't changed that much. Yeah, thirteen point six. Now, okay,

666
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: like some of these other.

667
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 3: Barkley had, I say, Barkley signed a one year deal

668
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: in Philly, they would tag him a hard tag. That yeah, right,

669
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 3: right right. The other thing that's goofy about the tag,

670
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: it's rare. But I've cited this a lot on here,

671
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 3: Like when Aaron Donald was at the height of his powers,

672
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: he was the best defensive player on the planet and

673
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 3: it was hands down, he was definitely the best defensive

674
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 3: They had to tag him, but if they did, it's cheap,

675
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 3: that's almost it's less than he deserves because I'm not

676
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: the sum of the top five. I'm number one, and

677
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 3: everybody's fighting to be number two. You know, like you're

678
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: you're short changing him if you franchise Aaron Donald is prime,

679
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: you know.

680
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's rare. So I mean some of the

681
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: I mean, you got all but four positions making more

682
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,479
Speaker 2: than twenty million dollars.

683
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 3: So when is Micah Parsons up?

684
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: Like, if Haninky has another year left on his deal,

685
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: they can just they've picked up the option. This is

686
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: the first they haven't had to pick up the option yet.

687
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 3: They haven't even had to make that decisions yet. Okay,

688
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: so they don't have to. I'm sure he wants a deal.

689
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: Now, what's a deal?

690
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? But I mean I'm thinking of guys that could

691
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 3: be in the Donald situation where I'm worth more than

692
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 3: Garrett Watt because I'm younger. If I just franchise them,

693
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: I can get them cheaper for a year, which is

694
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: why the ten percent thing goes on. That. You can't

695
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 3: just do that over and over these guys, right, you.

696
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, which is the Kirk Cousins. He's on the

697
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: few that actually had happened. But Higgins is going to

698
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: get ten percent, you know, at that point they almost

699
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: have to then try to sign him to a long

700
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: term deal as well.

701
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially if you're going to go get defensive players

702
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: this year. I mean, twenty seven against the cap this

703
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 3: year for him is painful. Yeah, and then you watch

704
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 3: them leave after I mean maybe that one is just

705
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: trying to negotiate too. We'll both yeah, both because what

706
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: she's gonna do. He's gonna want more of that.

707
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, he's one with thirty five plus. Yeah, he

708
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: wants more than what Jefferson got.

709
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: So real quick, Higgins, I think you said it's twenty

710
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 3: seven with the tag.

711
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

712
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,479
Speaker 3: Do we think he would have gotten orth of thirty

713
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 3: is a true UFA.

714
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: He's gotten right around thirty and.

715
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: Probably more than what he would have gotten. And as

716
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 3: you said, he'd have gotten a big check up front. Yeah,

717
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: a huge check up front. He's not happy about this,

718
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 3: no at all. Yes, No, I mean I can understand

719
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: why it wouldn't happy. Now, Yeah, somebody, it's.

720
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: Twenty seven million that you're going to get over the course.

721
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: Of the season, which is lovely, no matter, We're going.

722
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: To get a one point one and a half million

723
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: dollar check every week. Great, then you get to be

724
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: a free agent again after the year, or you don't

725
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: owned because who knows.

726
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

727
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just went through a mock draft before the

728
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: college season started, and ten guys that were on that

729
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: list aren't on in the top ten because they either

730
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: got heard, they had bad year.

731
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: I mean one year ago, whenever they franchised take him

732
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: the first time, we didn't think he was going to

733
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: be a do it again candidate. Yeah, you know, yeah,

734
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 3: he's not gonna be happy. No again.

735
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: Somebody was gonna give me a fifty million dollar or

736
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: more dollar check to join their team.

737
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: For a two or three year deal.

738
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: But I could then put in the bank and it's

739
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: earning interest from now until the start of the season.

740
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: I make more interest than it.

741
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you could buy yeah car dealerships if you

742
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: could buy one with them, right yeah. So yeah, Now

743
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: that's I guess not surprising news from the Bengals perspective.

744
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 3: I mean, but they're in a bind. They are in

745
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 3: a bind. Yeah. I mean, even if he comes back

746
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: and plays and thrilled, the defense can't be much invested

747
00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: in it.

748
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: No, they're gonna completely rebuild the defense basically through the

749
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: draft and with bargain basement guns and tight ends.

750
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 3: A little light O Lion's very light. They got like

751
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: three dudes. Yeah, and I don't think Hendrickson will be back.

752
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 3: I maybe that's after Garretts gets traded. If he gets traded,

753
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 3: that Garrett gets X, they maybe they get eighty percent

754
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 3: of X something like that.

755
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: You know, I can't see them getting multiple or you know,

756
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: a first round pick and more for No, for Henderson,

757
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: he's over thirty.

758
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 3: He's over thirty. I think he get like a two

759
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 3: and a five for from a good team, which is fine,

760
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 3: the Lions or whatever. You know, right, it doesn't doesn't

761
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: change the whole franchise.

762
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: And again what we've said all along is not a

763
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: star ridden draft. It's not a great draft.

764
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 3: Right, you get transcendent draft colass probably not probably know what.

765
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 2: Will Yeah, and they haven't exactly drafted well.

766
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 3: No defense, yeah, really poorly.

767
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: Anyways, let's get through a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

768
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

769
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be

770
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 2: back with more right after this.

771
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 3: At least.

772
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

773
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

774
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

775
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the

776
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt just going through some potential cuts here. Yeah,

777
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 2: there's a lot of them coming up NFL dot Com

778
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 2: and those will start happening here soon. And again these

779
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: are potential cuts. Now, some of these guys are definitely

780
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: going to get released.

781
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 3: So this is off NFL dot Com. Yeah, I set

782
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 3: you one for the Athletic where every beat writer had

783
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 3: to pick a guy.

784
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: You know, I don't necessarily like that because a lot

785
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: of them are just we're just gonna you have to

786
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 2: put half the pick pick somebody. Maybe nobody gets cut.

787
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and you also don't pick multiple.

788
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: Right, yeah right, but just because somebody's Like when the

789
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: Steelers made the trade for Dante Jackson last year, I

790
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 2: heard a lot of what he could have been on

791
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: the Carolina was going to cut him. Not necessarily. He

792
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: was on one of those lists like maybe that the

793
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: Athletic did where you had to name somebody who might

794
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: get cut and he was listed on It didn't mean

795
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: they were going to cut him.

796
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: It wasn't done deal.

797
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah right, all right, So for the UH, I'll do

798
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 2: the AFC first. Here Davante Adams, he's getting cut and

799
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: were Alan Lazard they're both getting gone. Yeah, they're both

800
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 2: getting cut.

801
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 3: I have no interest in Lazard. I have great interest

802
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 3: in Adams.

803
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: I don't know that he would have interesting coming to Pittsburgh.

804
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: I think he wants to go to I think he

805
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: said West Coast, he wants to go to the West

806
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 2: Coast or wherever Aaron Rodgers goes. And no, I'm not

807
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: signing Aaron Rodgers so I can get DeVante Adams.

808
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: Or if car gets traded, maybe they go back with

809
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 3: him too.

810
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, Travis Kelsey, he's not going to get cut.

811
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: They it could be uh he retires or is gently

812
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 3: pushed out the door.

813
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: So there was a story the forty nine ers or

814
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 2: the Chiefs have given Travis Kelcey a uh and they

815
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: want to know by March fourteenth what he's doing. Well,

816
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: no kidding, Yeah, that's the new one to a new

817
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: league year starts at March twelfth. You want to know

818
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 2: what Travis Kelcey's plan is here.

819
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers is like the only one that was able

820
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 3: to like for whatever reason, the team let him linger

821
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 3: and linger and linger. Like it just totally handcuffs your

822
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: whole off season, especially quarterback. I need to know, got

823
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 3: to know.

824
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Plus he it's seventeen point three million dollars in

825
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 2: cap savings. If he's not on their roster.

826
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: Next year, it'd probably be a good thing for them

827
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: if he retires, because it's going to be a retirement.

828
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: He's not gonna end up.

829
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: They're not going to release it going to be a bear, Yeah,

830
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 2: you know, right, Mark Andrews.

831
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 3: I think he's a potential trade, not just because he

832
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 3: dropped the ball, but he is a pretty big cap hit.

833
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 3: And if it means.

834
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: They don't have a lot of money, say, it would

835
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 2: save them eleven million dollars they have likely in place.

836
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: Right, they could draft a good tight end, probably in

837
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 3: the third round.

838
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 2: They probably four of them.

839
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll probably take a couple. Yeah, and maybe there's

840
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: gonna be a little bigger, a little lighter on personnel.

841
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 3: But he's not young. The drop doesn't help, you know, but.

842
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 2: Maybe he's not back Joey Bosa, he's getting cut, gone

843
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: and Max a free agent. This cap has like thirty

844
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: seven million dollars. Yeah, they would save twenty five million

845
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: dollars just by releasing Him's an easy one. Yeah, that's

846
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: a no brainer.

847
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

848
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: Sam Hubbard and or Sheldon Rankins with the Bengals, I

849
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: think they're both gone.

850
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 3: I think they're both gone, and there may be three

851
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 3: or four others on defense. I mean I think a

852
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 3: large portion of their defense and they just gotta flush it. Yeah,

853
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: Hubbard's an easy one. Their recent draft picks are safe,

854
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 3: but that's about it because are cheap. Yeah, Hilton and

855
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 3: Hill were both free agents. Pratt once traded, but he

856
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 3: could get cut to he's not special. Yeah, No, they're

857
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: gonna have wholesale changes.

858
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 2: Von Miller. It's probably for what Yeah, yeah, it's twenty

859
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 2: three point eight million dollar cap hit for a guy

860
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: that plays ten snaps a.

861
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 3: Game preusher type.

862
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: No, can't do it. No. Christian Kirk is a guy

863
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: that we're talking. We've taught receiver a trade possibility.

864
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: Yeap.

865
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 2: Just because he's on this list, doesn't mean they're going

866
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 2: to cut him.

867
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: Right, but I think you could wait out. We talked

868
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 3: about Adams, Cup, Debo, Kirk. I think all of them

869
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 3: should be on this list. I know we'll get the

870
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 3: NFC in a bit, but they, like Parker Washington, they

871
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 3: don't have much cap flexibility. Kirk would save them like

872
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: seventeen does that sound right?

873
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 2: He would save them thirteen point six or I'm sorry

874
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: he would He would save them basically eleven million dollars.

875
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 3: Okay, because I know Ingram.

876
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: SR he would save them ten point four ten point four.

877
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 3: Million cap savings. Yeah, because I think Ingram slightly behind

878
00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 3: that too. They drafted strange, they like Washington Thomas's come on,

879
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: and they got to spend their money elsewhere. So I

880
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 3: think Ingram's back and Kirk is either cut or traded

881
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 3: for a pretty late pick.

882
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. I would rather do that if I'm going to

883
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 2: if I if I want the player, I would rather trade.

884
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 3: For him and just assure that he's here's a.

885
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: Fifth round pick, right, you're gonna cut him, We'll take

886
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 2: or a seven here at his contract. As you know,

887
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 2: you inherit the contract. But again you inherit the contract.

888
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: He's got one year left on his deal. You can

889
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 2: then decide let me throw another year on after the

890
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: season even well, you just tell him, hey, Christian, we'll

891
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 2: talk after the season's over.

892
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: You have this training camp, after you've been with him

893
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 3: for a while, right, you.

894
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: Get that opportunity, and then if he leaves at the

895
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: end of the year, then you get to pick more

896
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 2: than you get a comp pick back.

897
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, potentially, I know people are you know,

898
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 3: we had just talked about Higgins and people have talked

899
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: about cop Debo. I think Kirk's like my favorite and

900
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 3: most likely veteran to join the Steelers. He plays inside,

901
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 3: he's out, he's tough, He's younger than most of the

902
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 3: names we brought up. Most of those dudes are thirty plus,

903
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 3: including Amari, Cooper and Diggs and the free agents to be.

904
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 3: And if I still want to use a third round

905
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 3: pick on receiver, sure go ahead.

906
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: It doesn't stop me from there. And a lot better

907
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 2: on what you played with some of the comments on

908
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 2: the message board. But why do you guys keep talking

909
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: about Christian Kirk because he makes you a better he

910
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: makes your roster better. Yeah, you're not going you know,

911
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: you know you're not gonna go get Devonte Adams. It's

912
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: probably not going to happen. I mean, it sounds like

913
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 2: you're not going to You're not going to get t Higgs.

914
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: Higgins is probably off the market. Now it sounds like

915
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 2: Godwin might hit the market. Is your best guy you

916
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 2: could probably get and then he probably gets twenty eight

917
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: million dollars a year.

918
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 3: There's warts with Cup and Debo. I mean, I could

919
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 3: see going down those roads too. I'm not saying I wouldn't,

920
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 3: But there's warts with them. Kurt's coming off an injury,

921
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: but it's a broken collar bone or something that doesn't true.

922
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 3: He is as an athlete, and it's a reasonable it's

923
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 3: a strong number two option, absolutely, right, right, right, yeah.

924
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: You would Again, they wanted Christian Kirk at the trade

925
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: deadline last year. Let's saying they would have killed for him.

926
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: But that would definitely like he would have made him

927
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: a better team.

928
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 3: Right and probably would not have been a cap casualty here.

929
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 3: You just would have picked this up and kept rolling.

930
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeh, yeah, right right absolutely.

931
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: Alex Kappa with the Bengals, Yeah, they got problems. I

932
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 3: mean their interior row line needs a lot of work. Yeah,

933
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 3: they're gonna they're gonna cut five or six guys.

934
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: Uh, Samson Ecubon and Rick Won Davis with the Colts.

935
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: I don't know enough about their situations.

936
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: Edge rusher, in the defensive tackle. They have cap space,

937
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: but they got to start signing some guys, you know,

938
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: all these guys that they.

939
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 3: I don't know what they'd save on those two, but

940
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 3: they don't know the valuable players.

941
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ecubon ten point five million dollar cap hit. Yeah, yeah,

942
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: they would save seven point five million there. Yeah, he's

943
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: getting cut.

944
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's getting cut, right.

945
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 2: Brayden Smith with the Colts, Yeah, that.

946
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 3: One I saw. I know, he missed time with injury

947
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: and didn't finish the season.

948
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 2: I don't think he's a nineteen point eight million dollar

949
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: cap hit and they he's banged up. That's they went

950
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 2: with gonekal Aves at the Yeah. Yeah, it was okay, right, yeah.

951
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. They held the b Yu kid a year or

952
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: two ago too.

953
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: Would you have an interest in bringing Braden Smith in?

954
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: Not really, No, I wouldn't either. No.

955
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 3: I mean he's a right tack. He's had a good career.

956
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody will, I mean, well, yeah, he'll do he'll

957
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: be he'll get money on the open market. This Patriots

958
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 2: Audio network, Yeah absolutely yeah.

959
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 3: Uh.

960
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: For the Titans, Amani Hooker and Kenneth Murray and or

961
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 2: Kenneth Murray.

962
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're both very dispensable.

963
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kenneth Murray is a ten point one million dollar.

964
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

965
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of people. I mean, that's then

966
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 2: you go Autry with the Texans.

967
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gone.

968
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 2: John Franklin Myers with the Broncos.

969
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 3: Good player.

970
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: I've always thought he was a good player.

971
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a good player. Jones is up though. Allen's

972
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 3: basically a star. Yeah.

973
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I played forty six percent of snaps. She has

974
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 2: a ten million dollar cap hit.

975
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: Say, did he have an injury this year? I didn't

976
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 3: think he played a ton. I'm not sure on that

977
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 3: good player. Still had seven sacks and yeah, he's a

978
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: good interior pass rusher with some size.

979
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 2: Dalvin Tomlinson with the Browns, they're gonna have.

980
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 3: To lose dudes. I mean, I bet they have offensive

981
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 3: lineman I fit that bill. They're they're gonna have a problem.

982
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. Moving over to the NFC real quick. Here you're

983
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 2: looking at.

984
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 3: And remember, folks, if the Steelers were signed one of these

985
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 3: any of these guys.

986
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: Were talking about, they're not against the comp pick game, right,

987
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: you know? Deebo Samuel, I think that happens. Marshawn Lattimore.

988
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: I can't imagine the way cut him already. Cam Jordan's

989
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 2: getting cut, yeah, I mean.

990
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 3: Tomorrow, Davis Honey Badger, a lot of those guys.

991
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 2: Derek Carr. I don't believe Derek Carr is getting cut though,

992
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 2: because it has to be posted. Cost them money to

993
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: do that.

994
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 3: They have to wait till post.

995
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: You Tyler Lockett, he's gone.

996
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like a twelve million dollars.

997
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: Saving David Anyamata or Grady Jarrett with the Falcons.

998
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 3: I think on Moda is for sure. Not sure on Garrett.

999
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: Jonah Jackson with the Rams signed.

1000
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: The sign right, I don't think that's that happened.

1001
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: Tremaine Edmonds or t J. Edwards with the Bears just

1002
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: signed them to reason. Yeah, sixty three million dollars in

1003
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 2: cap space, I bet they're safe.

1004
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 3: Uh.

1005
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: No offense with the Seahawks.

1006
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: I don't know what would save him, but he's not special.

1007
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: He's a thirteen point four million dollars.

1008
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's probably gone. Yeah for a tight end.

1009
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: Miles Sanders he's getting cut, gone, James Bradberry Berry or

1010
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: Darius Slay Bradbury's getting cut.

1011
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: Ibery's definitely an't cut. Yeah. I don't know what sleigh

1012
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 3: would save him, but that's maybe if it's a big

1013
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 3: enough number then yeah.

1014
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Taysom Hill gone gone. Yeah yeah yeah, Gerald Everett

1015
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: with the Bears. Yeah, probably probably h Roy Robertson Harris

1016
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 2: with the Seahawks defensive tackle.

1017
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's another interesting dude. I don't know where would

1018
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: save him, but they've drafted there and.

1019
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: Six point six million dollars.

1020
00:45:59,120 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 3: He's probably gone.

1021
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Darius Williams cornerback with the Rams, probably gone.

1022
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1023
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: Five point three point eight million savings is not that great. Yeah,

1024
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: you to your gross Meadows with the forty nine ers.

1025
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 3: If they're gonna make a splash on a Garrett or

1026
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 3: something crazy.

1027
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Demon Clark with the Cowboys. Okay, Overshown's hurt though, Yeah,

1028
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: and young Hoku could be hitting the open. Oh wow,

1029
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: he have a bad year. Don't remember him being around

1030
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: like this, just nine out of thirty four attempts. So yeah, yeah,

1031
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 2: I thought I'm getting kicks indoors and all that, and

1032
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: maybe he could be a Raven they could trade out

1033
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 2: over the kicks.

1034
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 3: There's some bad news coming out with the.

1035
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: Bad news ere Yeah. So anyways, he's gonna be back

1036
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 2: either Yeah, I don't think he's a cap casualty or whatever. Hey,

1037
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 2: that's that's great. Then the Ravens have to use a

1038
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: draft pick on a do something. You do something, somebody's

1039
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: going to kick for them next year.

1040
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 3: Ye.

1041
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: Anyways, that's the list from NFL dot com. He is

1042
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,279
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1043
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1044
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