1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: And I came off that edge. He said, oh there 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: you go, young fella. 3 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 2: So I ran up. 4 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: He kicked back, Oh yeah, you go, young fellow. Don't 5 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: try to spin. I hear him say, don't try to 6 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: spin the mid play. There's no way I'm a spin now. 7 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: So now I'm a bull Russian Jayo hit it word 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: for word. Do what he told me when he grabbed me. 9 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: Strong as ops, he just grabbed me. Yep, young fella, 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: you might want to get into the weight room. The 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: weight room is essential, and the player is going on 12 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: and I'm just sitting there wiggling like a little rag dog. 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: I said, I wouldn't call my home. I called like 14 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: my family at home. I called him after that game. 15 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: I said, Bro, these dudes are different. These are different 16 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: human beings in this league. Yeah, we see you. 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: What up, everybody? 18 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm Peanut Tohiman and this is the NFL Player's Second 19 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: Act podcast and with me as always as my trust, 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: he co hosts Pineapple Roman Harple. 21 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:05,199 Speaker 2: What's up? Baby? 22 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: These are not pineapples, but thank you again. This is 23 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 3: from the President's Cup. I don't I don't want this 24 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 3: guest thinking I got pineapples all on my chest. 25 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: Because you know, tell him what he's going in his 26 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: mind if he thinks that. So get to the guest pet. 27 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: Okay, this gentleman is a product of the University of Florida, 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: linebacker for six seasons for your Miami Dolphins. 29 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: He is the co host of the Pivot podcast. 30 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: He is on Miami Sports Radio, and he has his 31 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 1: own cooking brand. 32 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, sir, Ladies and. 33 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: Gentlemen, please walk up to the pop Channi crowdy. Yeah, 34 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: representing the college you didn't even go to. 35 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: I like it, sir. Yeah. 36 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: Man, you know you get married, you gotta you gotta 37 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: adjust to the trend. Wife with Howard and the real Hu. 38 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: You know they've got a lot of pride. Yeah, wife 39 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: with Howard, I damned with the Howard got I got 40 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: you talking about wife? Man, I wash my hands, have 41 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: my ring off. I'm gonna put it back on real quick. Anyway, 42 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: don't do that. 43 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let me do. Let me get back right, 44 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: Let me get back right. 45 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: You see, mine ain't come off in year. I got 46 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: the little tan line and all ye, all right now 47 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: now chanting. I gotta be honest. 48 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 3: I didn't know this about you because when I've seen 49 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 3: you and I've only known you since college, watching watching 50 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: on TV. Also, you went to my play there at 51 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 3: the Miami Dolphins, so I thought you were a Florida guy. 52 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: I did not know. 53 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 3: Why did you go to Penn State like you grew 54 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: up or you were from that area? 55 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: Right there? And uh, in State College. 56 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: It's even worse than that. I was born there. When 57 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: we moved when I was like, I think two months through. 58 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: I was born December second. Penn State played in the 59 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: Hula Bow. My dad was coaching. Uh huh, my dad 60 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: played played the Penn State played in the league. Right 61 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: he was coaching back with Joe Paterno on them. They 62 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: brought him in when he retired for football. I'm born 63 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: in State College. My mom didn't want him coaching more 64 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: because he was never there. I have two older sisters, 65 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: so she's just she's sitting at the house in State College. 66 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: Ain't something to do, so she adin't want to coach 67 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: no more. So I moved to Tampa when I was 68 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: like two months old. But my dad, Randy Crowded, passed, 69 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: reaching to God rest his soul. He was the first 70 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: black captain ever at Penn State. Three time All American 71 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: at Penn State. They got a fifty foot picture of 72 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: this damn dude on the wall in the stadium in 73 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: Beaver Stadium. I'm going to Penn State my whole life. 74 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: I'm going i Pens State stuff, all that stuff. But 75 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: they made a critical era on my visit. I went 76 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: to the summer camps in ninth grade, tenth grade. 77 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: I'm flying up there. 78 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: We ain't got no money, we broke, we had a 79 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: single family, were living in the projects in Atlema. Flying 80 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: up there, find a way to get there. I'm going 81 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: to Penn State. I'm getting cool to coach. I'm going 82 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: to Penn State. They brought me on my official visit. 83 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: I remember the date, January eleventh, Courtney Brown brouh. 84 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: It was four feet of snow on the ground. We 85 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: flying in. They fly into Pittsburgh. 86 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: They take that little puddle jumper over the over the 87 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: Nitney Mountains and you come down and stay car man. 88 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: Everything's white. 89 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm sitting on a plane with j Paternal Joe's son, 90 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: my mama and his little bitty the plane. I look 91 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: at my mama said, I'm not coming here. She said, 92 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: she thinks I'm just nervous. Whatever I said, I'm not 93 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: coming here, So what you're talking about, I can't this 94 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: white went stayed. We walking around the fourth snow They 95 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: had a big picture, they had all my highlights, beautiful, 96 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,559 Speaker 1: beautiful presentation for my visit. 97 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: I am not coming here to live in this the 98 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 2: snow jump. I told my mam again, I'm not coming here. 99 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: Went down, got back to Atlanta, visited Georgia, committed to Georgia, 100 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: and then Spurrier left and went to the commander, said 101 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: was name differently back then? So I was, I was 102 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: going to Georgia and Florida. When Spurry went to commanders, 103 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: I then committed to George. I committed Geordia for three weeks. 104 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: Charlie Strong left South Carolina. Zook brought him as DC love. 105 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: Charlie Strong visit South Carolina. Columbus, South Carolina no place 106 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: for a black man, So I said, I'm not going 107 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: to Coach. I love you to death, and I'm not 108 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 1: going to I'm not going to Columbia, South Carolina. 109 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: Why isn't in a place for a black man? When 110 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: you have been there, I have none I have you 111 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: feel you. 112 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: Feel uncomfortable, well, especially if you're from Atlanta. 113 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 2: You know what I mean I'm from Alabama, so it's 114 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: a little bit different. You're used to it. I'm definitely 115 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: used to Columbia is not that bad for me. 116 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: But okay, well, I walked in and go on to 117 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: gas station. Said I thought I was why y'all jumping? 118 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: I can't even get me. 119 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: Jumping. 120 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, I was uncomfortable, but Zook brings Charlie in 121 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: the running defense. Charlie calls me the second it gets 122 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: the job. He says, Chan and me and me and Chuck. 123 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: Cool. 124 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: Cool that still the bucket is right now. He said, Chance, 125 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: just take your visit. I'm fully committed to mart Wreck 126 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: at Georgia, said, Chan, take your visit. I like, coach, 127 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: I'm going to Georgia. He said, you have one visit 128 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: left because I canceled my Florida visit after Spur left 129 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: the last year I had. He said, just take the 130 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: visit here, come down here, eat some free stone Craft 131 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: these steaks. 132 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, party with the boys. You're good. 133 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: I just come down, went down to Florida, had me 134 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: a good time, no doubt. There were some boosters that 135 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: really enjoyed my ability to make tackles and plays. Absolutely 136 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: what we got to say hypothetically, allegedly, allegedly. 137 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: Allegedly, I might have got slid a little something. Yeah, allegedly, 138 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: And I said, you know what, the ain't bad. 139 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: He committed from Georgia and that's how I ended up Florida. 140 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 3: Man, I like Gainesville. Gainsville ain't bad. I mean, outside 141 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: of the campus is kind of sketchy, but. 142 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: It ain't nothing. 143 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, because we was talking the week before and he 144 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: was in games, I ain't going the game. It's like, bro, 145 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm going home. Yeah, well, you was in Gainsville. You 146 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: leave campus. It's a big ass lake over there and. 147 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: Fields Lacchia County. Yeah nothing. 148 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: I thought it was way more because you think it's 149 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: Florida and it's not at all like that. But I'm 150 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: sure you had a great time. Oh yeah, I got 151 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: arrested twice another two times. I don't ask about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 152 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 3: we're gonna talk about that. That was in the rundown. 153 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we'll do y'all rundown. Man, you know I'm 154 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: over I'm gonna over share. I'd love to get you 155 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: in the tears room. You'd be telling on everybody. 156 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: You're gonna get me, you y'all come on out. They 157 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: got us, they got you, they ain't get us. Oh yeah, 158 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: we're all in trouble. 159 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: I got one question for you though, while we're in 160 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: that little zone still, it's like, what is that chanting 161 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: crowder in this picture? 162 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: Because oh, that that's a because it's aggressive, young man. 163 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: What kind of small was that? 164 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: That's called the pre get your teeth done for twenty 165 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: grand smile? 166 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: That's you know what happened? What kind of what kind 167 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: of tie? 168 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: Know? 169 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: Randy met Michael? 170 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that in't on the people that suck their thumb 171 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: and they get their loop like Randon got you gotta 172 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: done now, you gotta just put in. But when I 173 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: was twelve, we ain't have no no, we have skates 174 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: and roller blades. So my teeth just grew in. Because 175 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: my teeth were they grew in late. I wu was 176 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: messed up. My daddy if y'all know, it's sore. He 177 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: you know, he did drugs and stuff back in the day. 178 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: I think I was affected by that in the wound, okay, 179 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: because a lot of stuff there. I bore with one kidney, 180 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: A lot of stuff was a lot of stuff with 181 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: my body was just it was it was different, just different. 182 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: So my two my two front teeth didn't come out. 183 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: The grown teeth wouldn't pushing my baby teeth out, so 184 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: that to snatched my baby teeth out, put a retainer 185 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: in with teeth on it to let my grown teeth 186 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: grow down because something was going wrong. You know, my 187 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: daddy was in Miami in the seventies, messed up to 188 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: DNA a little bit. So then as soon as my 189 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: grown teeth go down, there was this crazy dude. Now 190 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm looking back, I shouldn't been talking to this man 191 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: up the hill from me and our project, old white man, 192 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: and he would always ask do you want to skate? 193 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: And stuff? 194 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: I don't know why he was trying to get me 195 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: to come through his house. 196 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: I looked back. He kind of sounded like the guy. Look, hey, 197 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: I want some popsicles. Look Herbert the petty on field. Yeah, 198 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: he sounded like Herbert the pervert. 199 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: So I one size nine. I'm probably eleven years old. 200 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: He gave me a size twelve. I get on rollerblades. 201 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: I'm a dude, little Black Convincity, Atlanta. I ain't know 202 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: how to rollerblades, but they look cool. 203 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: Got on them. 204 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: Couldn't stop roll down here here to speed bump, laying 205 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: the face first and bust all four of my front teeth. 206 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: That's why my smile looked like all for my front 207 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: teeth bust over from roller Blade on a Pedophiles twelve 208 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: when I was nine. 209 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: What a story. I don't think I never heard anything. 210 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: So when you really met Herbert the p that's awesome. 211 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 2: Er blades want some popsicles? 212 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: He went right on over there and right on over there. 213 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, he gonna get me. He better package lunch. 214 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: They're just taking me upstairs. 215 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 3: So all right, well this is a great transition. So 216 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 3: what was your welcome to the NFL? 217 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: MO I had? 218 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: Well, first was in camp because that we had Ronnie. 219 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: Ronnie was drafted, his second pick overall the old boy 220 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: running that thing, and Ronnie could tote that thing. They 221 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: had Vernon Carey and high school, all American college, all 222 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: Americans like you just just run around, y'all. 223 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 2: But I'm talking to y'all. Y'all know how it was 224 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: high school and college? It's easy, yes. 225 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, three touchdowns, eighteen tackles and inner self. 226 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 2: You know, high school was easy. 227 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: College and all that sec as a freshman all American 228 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: as a sophomore, Like I got to the league. First 229 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: person put their hands on me. That was like was 230 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: Vernon carry in camp? First day of passed. I came 231 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: off the edge and he grabbed me and I went 232 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: to slap that little wrist and it didn't move. And 233 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: all the time it's on film too. I wish they 234 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: find it from me. And I'm still slapping and he 235 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: just driving me to the sideline. And at the old 236 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: Dolphin camp it was about five yards to the chaining 237 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: fence off the field. End of the play, I'm laying 238 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 1: in the corner of the chain link fence. He done 239 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 1: drove me to sideline and threw me, pushed me all 240 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: the way and I'm laying against the chain link fence 241 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: and George Edwards, great, great coach, smart dude, that's who 242 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: walked to him. He was like, yeah, you might want 243 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: to try a different move at this level, buddy, And 244 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: that was the That was the first one man hitting 245 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: Mark Sean. I'll say one of the most memorables early 246 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: on was going against Jonathan Ogden, who would just he 247 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: would talk to you during the play. 248 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. What was he saying? 249 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: Man? So my coach, we did a lot I was 250 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: with Zach, so, Man, I watched more film than I 251 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: didn't know there was that much film to watch. I 252 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: was to watch film in college. Had Charlie strong, like 253 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: he made me. We watched film. Zach would watch two 254 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: days of film throughout a six day break, getting ready 255 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: for that Nick. Zach was film crazy. If the coordinator 256 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: was the first year coordinator that team, he would watch 257 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: whatever team he was at before that the whole season 258 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: and to see his adjustments game the game, to be 259 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: ready for the next seat. Like Zach was stupid. So 260 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: we're watching film. We'll see film. We'll see a tackle 261 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: get beat, so you know we're in the middle of 262 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: a game. So we got a communication system with George 263 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: Edwards where like if you knew it was coming off 264 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: the edge, you kind of peaked to him and we 265 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: had like hand signing, you know, try to spin Jack. 266 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: We had like little hand signals or what to try 267 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: on this tackle because he's been beat or this is 268 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: his weakness, you know, up and under. We had like 269 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: these little hand signals. Man, we playing the Ravens. Walked 270 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: up on the edge the first time was we'll see 271 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: walked up and I pecked at George. That monch shrugged 272 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: his shoulders. He didn't give you nothing that he had 273 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: no weakness. Y'all had no weakness. I never got a 274 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: shoulder shrug. This is this is well into the season 275 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: where this this little was working at something. 276 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 277 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: He said, coach it. And I came off that edge. 278 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: He said, oh there you go, young fella. 279 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: So I ran up. 280 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: He kicked back, Oh yeah you go, young fellow. Try 281 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: to spind. I hear him say, don't try to play. 282 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: There's no way I'm a spin now. So now I'm 283 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: a bull rushing Jayo hit it word for word. Do 284 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: what he told me when he grabbed me, strong as 285 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: a op. He just grabbed me. Yep, young fella, you 286 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: might want to get into the weight room. The weight 287 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: room is essential, and the player is going on and 288 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: I'm just sitting there wiggling like a little rag dog. 289 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: I said, I wouldn't called my home. I called my 290 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: family at home. I called him after that game. I said, Bro, 291 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: these dudes are different. These are different human beings in 292 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: this league. 293 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, we see. But that it wasn't like my that 294 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 2: was it was well into the sea. 295 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: But I was kind of like my Welcome to the 296 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: NFL when Jo touch different it was h man, it 297 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: was so minute. Start my hit, Marsean. It's like running 298 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: into one of these pillars. Man watching Randy Moss jump. 299 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: Oh y well, he jumps and his knees at your 300 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: eyes and you now your a spectator. Coach, Kydter, what 301 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: are you doing? I can't get up there. 302 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 2: I'm watching greatness. I can't get up there. 303 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: Bro. He's six', Six so he do. This he already 304 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: at nine and a half feet now he got a 305 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: forty in. Vertical that back's the jump at thirteen feet, Now, 306 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: COACH i could barely dunk with two. Hands he got 307 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: two up at thirteen feet, coach bad, matchup that's. 308 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: Y'all, father put me, up brought up for three three, 309 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: up three three up eight three was most come inside. There, 310 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: yeah he gonna make me look, stupid but it was. 311 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: Some yeah this, league, BRO i tell all the young 312 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: BOY i talked to, Him you're all about to walk 313 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: into a rim of the best athletes you have ever 314 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: seen in your. 315 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: Life, absolutely absolutely. 316 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 4: So what made you go from fifty two to fifty 317 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 4: five And New york fifty five in? 318 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: College? Yeah, yeah why. 319 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: Fifty two in the. League, well Because junior SAY i 320 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: was here my rookie. Year, Yeah and they, said, Yep Joe, 321 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: samino he's still. Here come in rookie. Camp he, said, 322 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: yeah they fifty two is, locker AND i. WAS i 323 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: kind of looked and he knew it was going on 324 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: and walked out told. Me he, said, yeah we gave fifty. 325 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: Two you, KNOW i Think Dereck pope at fifty, six 326 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: it was fifty two was. Available say got fifty two 327 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: if you want to get fifty, five we have a fifty. 328 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: Five AND i Knew junior was on the. Team it Was. 329 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: Junior my Starting we say three, four so my four. 330 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: LINEBACKERS i started next To Zach, Thomas Jason, taylor. Junr 331 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: say Three hall of, famers and my little goofy ass 332 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: sitting there over there in the in the. 333 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: MOON i Knew junior SAID i was. 334 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: Here they were, like you can go, Ass junior And 335 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: Dereck pope And Eddie moore over. There, dude say you 336 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: can go as junior to get fifty five if you want. 337 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: To they tapped, me they, said young, blood don't ask. 338 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: Homes even doing that junior book for the fifty five just, 339 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: SAY i, say, yeah fifty two is. 340 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: FINE i got. 341 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: Coffee you know you gotta be cocky because you didn't 342 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: sound like you, know, yeah you Know i'm gonna make 343 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: fifty two means. Something yeah they didne gave to one hundred. 344 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: People Since, hey. 345 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: Shout Out Derrick Pope. Alabama, man that's my. Dog, yeah, 346 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: man he was in. 347 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: School. Yo, hey what was it like playing with that 348 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: trill trio of linebackers that you just? Want? MAN i 349 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: the meeting room, too. 350 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 4: Bro. 351 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: Zach it was really, LIKE I zack is like my big. 352 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: Brother zach still. STAGE i still talk To zach all the. 353 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: Time like Without ZACH i, WAS i wouldn't HAVE i 354 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't have. STARTED i wouldn't have, play wouldn't you? KNOW 355 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: i let the team attackers couple, years no chance Without 356 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: zach because he taught me how to really get ready 357 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: for football, games like really prepare and you, know telling 358 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: the little. Stuff you're, saying move with the full, backs 359 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: fingers to the to the to the. Light you, know 360 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: the left guard is always on his toes to, run 361 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: always on the, hill like he'll know stuff like that 362 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: in the league ten years at that point he knew 363 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: like he Knew kevin M. Wise, hey if he's doing, 364 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: this he's gonna do. This if he looks, down it looks. 365 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: Up he's pulling like he wouldn't know little stuff like, 366 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: that but the film study. Stuff so he's just his 367 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: HIS i would, say not even more than, passing almost 368 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: like crazy approach to a game, mentally and Then junior 369 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: was the total. Opposite junior told me stuff, like don't 370 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: get over, coached like you know what he's, Saying, yeah 371 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: play be like, body don't get over. Coached, body don't 372 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: get over. Coached we were playing The jets one. Time 373 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: he Had Wayne krebbet in the. SLOT i had the running. 374 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: Back junior saw. Something if he was gonna, blitch he would, 375 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: say apple baby Or. Charlie that means what gap he's going. 376 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: In if THE d tackling THE b, gap he's still 377 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: going through the. Gap so he's telling THE d tackle 378 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: get out of the beat gap either way you want. 379 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: To But i'm running full speed through this big. Gap 380 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: Wayne krebet in the, slot not in the. Wing in the, 381 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: slot he, said see See i'm, Gone SO i knew 382 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: what that, means like t you, know cover. Me he 383 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: knew now that WHEN i started learning. Football he explained 384 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: it to me on the. Plane he knew that if he, 385 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: blitched the back can't release now because he has to. 386 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: Check so if he, checks but the back was, weak 387 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: so he can't get over there in time to Get. 388 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: Junior but so my guys handled because he's gonna try 389 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: to come Block. Junior junior gonna run a. BACK Vi 390 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: junia was huge and he was made in the damn. 391 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 1: Lab i'm weak over the. BACK i had to spread 392 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: over to try to Cover Wayne quebec all the way 393 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: in the slot the cople juniors. Back i'm running over. 394 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: There i'm like this man about to catch the ball 395 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: and get d hell. On Wayne coubette was, good could. 396 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: Go i'm running sprinting over, it looking At. Wayne wayne 397 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: curl up all like here we In New. York, oh 398 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: Because junior just knocked the hell out of Clad pennington 399 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: left his man took off. Running SO i learned from, 400 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: him like if you see, something go get, it go 401 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: make a. Play you got to make a. Play zach 402 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: was by the book because he knew what was gonna happen. 403 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: Beforehand and J t was just talented, man like he 404 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: just he was one of them dudes that like was 405 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: made in life to rush the, passer just made in 406 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: life to rush the. Passer that's that's WHAT i could 407 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: learn something From, junior learn something From, Zach but J, 408 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: t LIKE i. CAN'T i asked him one time something like, 409 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: that like, hey he had to say it was, like oh, 410 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: six he had decent played the, Year So i'm about 411 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: to rush off the. 412 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: EDGE i was, like, yeah J. 413 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: T you, Know i'm saying they're gonna start running, this you, 414 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: know because you've been coming off. There they about to 415 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: send you on the. Knees i'm coming off the. Edge 416 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: you know you beat this man three four times. 417 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 3: Already, yeah give me, something give, me give me. 418 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: Report to get, Off just get off real quickly around. Him, 419 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: YEAH i get off a little Slod he'll get. Off 420 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: J i get off a little. Slow but, YEAH i 421 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: THINK i was blessed to have those type outs and 422 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: even Saying, madison here my bell, Up, Ronnie i'm playing 423 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: Behind Ronnie, Holiday Keith traylor and big, tractor uh, Hoaday 424 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: Kevin carter and big. 425 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: Truck. Right we had it was all pros around. 426 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: ME i couldn't do nothing but succeed because they were 427 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: gonna cuts my ass out IF i messed. Up so 428 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: HOW i want to know the experience of playing for next. 429 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: Sabings so you got post l S U Nick, saban 430 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: but you got the Pre Alabama Nick. 431 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 4: Saban so what was that experience? Like knowing that he 432 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 4: had just come from excuse, me he had just come 433 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 4: FROM l S. U had some success, there but he Was. 434 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 2: He was, like, yeah, yeah it was coming on hot. 435 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: NOW i, said he has. SUCCESS i said some. Success 436 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: i'm sorry you don't see now it's the. Championship well he. 437 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: Did it's, okay don't worry about. That he wasn't my. 438 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: Coach i'm not hating on the. Man i'm just, saying, like, 439 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: yeah was what was his experience like for? 440 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 2: You some? 441 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: QUESTION i WAS i was used to saving BECAUSE i 442 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: came straight out of. 443 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 2: College was. Crazy i'm used to. Her ron was. Crazy 444 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: ronsuke was. 445 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: NOTHING i Saw ronzoke kick a long snap in the 446 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: face because he because he sailed the punts now over the, 447 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: punter his head man kicked him in his. FACE i, said, 448 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: OH i Called Cap, whitley my high school. 449 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: COACH i, said coch they have to kick. HIM i 450 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 2: need to go somewhere. 451 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: Else if this kicked, me it's over, DUE i don't know, 452 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: whatever but he needed, dictatorship and y'all, know Y'all vets, 453 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: like ain't the guy the GUYS i JUST i THINK 454 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: i Think sable was thirty, Eight truck was thirty. Six 455 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: they was in, there was high school. Together, Yeah i'm 456 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: not bowing down. You i'm not calling you. Coach saban 457 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: and The Vets junior knew. It everybody knew, it But 458 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: junior And truck would messed with him the most because they. 459 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 2: Knew he hated to be Called nick because he was So. 460 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: Nick saban like, players was called me, coach saving Not, 461 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: nick not my. Equal and it was so obvious when 462 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: they say Hey, Nick he'd have his little paper and 463 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: you could see him kind of just tensing up because 464 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: he's used to being a. 465 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: Dictator he's. Not he wasn't a. 466 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: Coworker SO i think people asked me all the, time 467 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: they were, like do you think he could have been 468 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: success in the. 469 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: LEAGUE i think we Got Drew brees. 470 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: That, yeah instead Of, pep and he would have stayed 471 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: because we'd had, success because it used to being, success 472 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 1: was used to going seventy nine he lose a game 473 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: and he was. Hot he used to go he was 474 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: a five hundred coach in the. League you know What i'm. 475 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: Saying BUT i think he could have made. It but 476 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: playing for, him it was like there was no. Football 477 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: is football like to make the main thing the main, 478 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: thing that's. It there was a player who went up 479 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: to one and told, HIM i forget his name of. 480 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: Safety came From New. England went up to him and, told, 481 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: hey my wife's. Pregnant if she goes in the, Labor 482 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: i'm gonna leave. Practice it's first. Camp it was tea 483 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: Buck uh comes, down he, hot were, like what's? Up 484 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: told him his wife. Pregnant he, Said my entire team's 485 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: on the field at four. O'clock he, said but if 486 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: my wife goes in the, Labor i'm gonna. Leave he, 487 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: said you have any? Kids he, said, YEAH i have. 488 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: Too so you see you saw both of them come out. 489 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: Right my whole team's on the field at four, o'clock 490 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: like it was football. FOOTBALL i used to hide in 491 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: the player like in the janitorial bathroom and you, know 492 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: play on my phone during. MEETINGS i. KNOW i told 493 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: HER i used to, watch But i'm not watching them 494 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: the week BEFORE i watched the upcoming. Game y'all want 495 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: to sit and watch the first quarter of the game we. 496 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: PLAYED i remember what. 497 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: HAPPENED i was out. There i'm. Good what happened? 498 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: Here oh they get three yards on the power. PLAY i, 499 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: WAS i made the. TACKLE i don't need to watch. 500 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: That so on, them you know that little money MEAN i. 501 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: GO i go playing play on my. Phone if you 502 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: look under the bathroom stall and you see big black, 503 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,239 Speaker 1: legs as a, player you just keep playing on with your. 504 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: Phone you look under the, stall you see little skinny 505 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: white legs with them air monarchs on. Them coach and their. 506 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: Monarchs it's a coach plus the toilet and you. Leave 507 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: look under, THERE i see the little white legs with 508 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: the air of. Monarchs walk out is? Saving now you 509 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: know What i'm. Saying and it's you, know And i'm still. 510 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: YOUNG i panic a little, Bit SO i go. Over 511 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: it's a tiny it's a janitory, bathroom so it. Ain't 512 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: it ain't but one star one year and on the. 513 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: Sink SO i go. Over i'm, LIKE i can't be 514 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: in the bathroom with my head coach and not say a, 515 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: word to say something right this is this is maybe 516 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: five six games to the, season walk, AWAY i wash my. 517 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: Hands he looked at me and just look back down 518 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: at the. Toilet so my mind is, like what CAN 519 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: i say to him that not gonna piss him, off 520 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: not just something real. 521 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: Nebulous SO i, say Coach House. 522 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: Terry he always talk about this white them there every meeting, 523 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: you and he said something about. Me he'll started by, saying, 524 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: well me and Miss terry were eating last, night and 525 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: and then it'll be some kind of football story or 526 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: some kind of you, know some kind of. 527 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 2: Motivation but he'd always be on his. 528 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: Wife SO i, say How's terry without missing a beat 529 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: WHEN i, talk he look look back, down didn't look 530 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: back at. Me he, said she'll be a lot better 531 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: if you cover f and back on third, down. 532 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 2: And that was. 533 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: It the game before it was a third and, EIGHT 534 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: i had an option route on the weak, side somebody 535 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: caught the ball and got a first. Down that's always 536 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: on his, mind not me as a. PERSON i, mean 537 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: what is Not, florida not, college not the fruits of the. 538 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: Season when he saw WHEN i asked him that, question 539 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: the only thing on his mind was me missing that 540 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: tackle on third down and it was in the second 541 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: care we won the. Game that's all he was worried. 542 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: About go make that tackle and we're off the. Field 543 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: that's how that's THE i would, say that's WHY i 544 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: tell this Story i've told her before because that's like 545 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: the micro cosm of What nick. Saban he is not 546 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: worried about anything other than winning, football not just the. 547 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: Game every single, snap every hand, play every, angle that's 548 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: all that's on his mind when he's. Coaching, well he never. 549 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 2: Changed it's funny because like he didn't coach. 550 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 3: Me he coached at my school, though so but the 551 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 3: first TIME i Met nick was coming out in the. 552 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: Draft so him And. 553 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 3: Kirby smart interviewed me WHEN i was coming out in 554 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: the draft to know. Six and then all of a, 555 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 3: sudden a couple of years, later he's at my school 556 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 3: AND i go. Back they just won a national championship. 557 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 3: GAME i come there like a week or two, Later 558 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 3: i'm on. CAMPUS i go by And i'm, like, hey, 559 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 3: coach you, know, like congrats on like when you know. 560 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 3: Congrats he was like for, What i'm, like, me you 561 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 3: WON nass Championship and like the way he says it, 562 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 3: too it's, aggressive And i'm just like it makes me, 563 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 3: question like why AM i congratulating? Him AND i was, like, 564 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 3: well you WON nas championship like two or three weeks. 565 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 3: AGO i don't give it about. 566 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: That that was weeks. Ago i'm behind on. 567 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 3: RECRUITING i GOT i got three sky ships And i'm 568 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 3: looking at six dudes right now And i'm trying to 569 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 3: figure out who the HELL i want. THAT i was just, like, 570 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 3: like this guy's a machine and he cannot do small. 571 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 3: Talk he's not he's not a small talk, guy like 572 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 3: he's like allergic to it or. Something he's and is 573 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 3: he socially? AWKWARD i wouldn't say socially, awkward, dude he 574 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 3: just doesn't do small. 575 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 2: Talk and he's like just likes. 576 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: Ball you're in his, world, yes and if you don't 577 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: want to be in saving, world don't speak to. 578 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: Me, yeah he's very cool with us like not talking to, 579 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: Him like it's. Fine isn't that? Personal it's just how it. 580 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: Is but like even this is way of, life but his, 581 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: approach it's not like there's no there's no, tact there's no, 582 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: nuance there's no you, know, hey how you, being how you? Doing, 583 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: okay let's get to WHAT i want to. Speak no 584 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: genius defensive, coordinator like he sees, stuff he knows. Stuff 585 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: he called the. Defense they. Had they Had kirby, here 586 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: they had Musch champire when he came To. Miami all 587 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: those Boys alabama came with. Him they had they. Made 588 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: they Named Richard smith to D c because he was 589 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: a veteran. Guy they needed some veteran coaches on the. 590 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 2: Staff they. 591 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: Couldn't he couldn't make his he couldn't come in his 592 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: first year head coach at high. College a bunch of 593 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: college guys that. Coordinated so they but Must champ, called 594 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: he called the. Defense he's the one that signaled this 595 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: was on the. Mic Richard Richard smith just broke down 596 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: how to stop power on The wednesday meeting and. Stuff 597 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: But saban really called it through Must. Champ But saban 598 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: would come to, you AND i used. Myself for, example 599 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: it came to me at third quarter of a, game 600 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: we're going out in the field one back up for 601 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: the for the third quarter after. Halftime he could have said, This, Hey, 602 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: CHANNING i think they're gonna they're gonna get in trips 603 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: and they're gonna try you on the. Backside with the weak, 604 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: screen just mug up a little, bit gona make the, 605 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: tackle will get off the. FIELD i got your coach 606 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: appreciated that that could have been what could have been, 607 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: said and the same thing would have. Happened, gator that's 608 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: what he Call never said my name two, years never 609 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: said changing Or. Karwate he called Me gator BECAUSE i 610 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: went To florida when y'all went not, Y'ALL lsu went 611 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: twelve and. One florida beat him AT lsu And Death 612 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: valley they were twelve and. One we went down, THERE 613 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: Cfo Chris. 614 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: Lee we beat. 615 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: HIM i had a hell of a game and he 616 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: made he let me know THAT i drafted you because 617 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: of that. Game WHEN i got Drafted. Gater, yes, COACH 618 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: i don't think you can. Cover they don't. Ether, okay 619 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: they're going to get in trips and run the screen 620 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: backside BECAUSE i would do the same thing that you 621 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: standing over there by. Yourself just go make the effent. 622 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: Tackle how about? 623 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: That can you do? That their? Coach thank? 624 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: You why would you speak to me in that? Man 625 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: you could just come tell, me you, know watch the week. 626 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: Screen but that's how He it's no person personal, connection, 627 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: niceness it's go do your. 628 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: Damnit but do you. 629 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: Think he does that Because Rod Mary nelly is a 630 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: guy and. 631 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 4: A genius, defensive genius. Decoordinator. Right he would talk to 632 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 4: certain players different kind of. Ways to, me he called, 633 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 4: me he called me. Gangs he called me gangs khn 634 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 4: Because Gangs khan took whatever he, wanted just like you 635 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 4: take the. 636 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 2: Football he called me gangs. Con so he had my little. 637 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: Nickname hey thirty, Three hey fifty, four eight ninety, Five 638 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: hey ninety, Nine hey forty, One hey Fifty like if 639 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: he liked, you he'd. 640 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: Called you by your. 641 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: Number but there were certain players that he would say 642 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: certain things too to get them fired. Up but he 643 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: couldn't just, Say, hey they're gonna run the screen back, 644 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: side be, ready all, right forty. 645 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: One he would might have to. 646 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 4: Go they're gonna catch this football all on you and 647 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 4: go ninety nine yards if you don't make this. 648 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 2: Tackle like he would do, that and he would piss 649 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: the player. 650 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: Off Henry, melton and he would go out and actually 651 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: make the. Play and it was A i THINK i 652 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: noticed it Because henry made The Pro bowl that. Year 653 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: it was like it. Was it was one of his best. 654 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: Years SO i guess my, question do you think he 655 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: did that to you because he knew what you were capable, 656 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: of and there may or may not have been some laziness, 657 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: involved and it was just trying to like psych yourself 658 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: up to say, No i'm gonna get this play like 659 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: he was just trying to piss you. OFF i understand 660 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: exactly what you're, saying Because Charlie strong was like, That, 661 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: yeah where he knew who to, push he knew who to. 662 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: Caddle he you, know but. Everybody him and. 663 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: Z That thomas got in a fighting one day at, 664 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: practice not, physically but getting at each. Other him And 665 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: Keith trader left practice one day, arguing would saying he just. 666 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: Talked he would talk To Pro bowl sixteen year vets 667 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: the same way he was talking to me as a. 668 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: ROOKIE i just think it's it's a disconnect with the 669 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: Human i'm sure he don't talk his wife that. Way absolutely. 670 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: Not once you get on this. FIELD i don't THINK 671 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: i was chanting. CROWDED i THINK i was will linebacker. 672 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: WON i don't Think Zach thomas was All Pro hall 673 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: Of fame middle. LINEBACKER i did this for ten. Years 674 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: your middle linebacker. Won Jason taylor was defensive end. One 675 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: that's WHY i think he looks at players as chess 676 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: pieces and not, like, oh this Is Jason taylor with 677 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: philanthropic you Know cherry's and married with you, know three, 678 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: kids and you are paid to get to the. Quarterback 679 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: go get to the. Quarterback you need to make, tackles 680 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: you need to cover. Receivers that's HOW i think he approached, 681 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: ball and that's WHY i think he's so. 682 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 2: Successful but also it rubs people the wrong. WAY i didn't. 683 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: CARE i got my mama cussed me out my whole. 684 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: Life you can cussing me all. DAY i don't, Care 685 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: so don't bother. You BUT i think some, people LIKE 686 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: i know y'all heard the manny right, story the one 687 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: that made him. Cry he made him. Cry many wasn't 688 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: ready to be coached that, way and so he. WENT 689 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: i don't know what he whispered in that man we 690 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: all saw we was walking to the. Field he whispered 691 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: something in that Man's that man was six, seven three fifty, 692 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: man he was a big old boy from usc whispered 693 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: something is there not long, either just man bust out. 694 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: Crying he had A, u not a women win to 695 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: get their stomach. Down you had a lot she would 696 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: little corset or something of courset rolled up his. 697 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 2: BACK i, said, man it's a bad look for the whole. 698 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 2: Team and it was an open. 699 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: Practice we got three the fifty pound man crying with. 700 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: Him it belly out of, courset belly button shown out 701 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: of this ON. Tv it was definitely ON. Tv this 702 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: was like this made a big headlight. News, Yeah nick 703 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: made this guy. 704 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 3: Cry you know you didn't play, Long so, like at what, 705 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,239 Speaker 3: point Because i've read that you you kind of did 706 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 3: it for the, Money so at what point went the 707 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 3: checks no longer your? Motivation, well first, OFF i HAD i. 708 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 3: HAD i told him ac three times in high, School 709 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 3: SO i had three and you're still that highly recruited. 710 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 2: Reconstructions in high. 711 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: SCHOOL i actually told, ME i said my last game 712 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: of my senior season while playing full. BACK i don't 713 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: know why they had me BECAUSE i was on the 714 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: storryass team THAT i had just carried the. 715 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: Team BUT i used to have. 716 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: Eight, catches thirty carries and twenty tackles in games like we. 717 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: Had it was a performer high school Usher raymond For Raven. 718 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: SIMON i was at the performing art, school perform at art. School, 719 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: yeah so we had a big ass kid at the performing. 720 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: Arts we had dudes out there dancing and, singing And 721 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: i'm trying to bust some people down the face masks, 722 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: off and they wearing glasses under the helm and like 723 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: the little. 724 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: Giants what To? 725 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: GOD i sent him word his school glasses under m 726 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: AND i, said, No, god heavy blocking or. 727 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 2: Soul BUT i told, HIM i said. 728 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: THEY i went To florida late because they wanted to 729 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: save my scholarship of bringing another guy in that two 730 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: thousand and two, class AND i ain't rolled in spring 731 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: just to get another, scholarship SO i WAS i was already, 732 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: injured and so got to the league first round grade 733 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: and mail copy. Trol i'm going twenty To Green bay 734 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: thirty Two patriots won the two body and Four no 735 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: later than thirty two to The. PATRIOTS i went out 736 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: spend by the men and a, half got A London 737 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: lord Of london. Credit i'm going first, round last thirty 738 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: to pick thirty. 739 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 2: Two. 740 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: Pick the year before me got eight plus, millions So 741 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: i'm about to get at least eight. Millions all good to. 742 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: Go they looked at the knees and they looked at 743 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: the and the arrest. RECORD i got locked up all the. 744 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: Time they, like he's a character is. Shit But Mike 745 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: tice in the media told, me what you, know he 746 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: looked at The, oh he's just a. Fighter you like to. 747 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: FIGHT i, said, yeah he, said, well linebacker likes to. 748 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: Fight that's no. Problem i'm not doing nothing. Crazy i'm 749 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: not standing the. Man i'm not doing drugs and stilling a, 750 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 1: beat no women or nothing like. That if you call 751 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: me a name and we just close and you disrespect 752 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: me from inner city Of, Atlanta i'm gonna punch in the. 753 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 2: FACE i really thought. 754 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: That was wrong with that UNTIL i got The gainesville 755 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: And i'm An All american linebacker walking around the street 756 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: To gamesville punch of people in the face and getting 757 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: run down by horses and getting. 758 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: Put in the electric kind of. 759 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 1: Jail so we didn't get to the league and get 760 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: through my first, contract didn't get my second. Contract EVERYBODY 761 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: i can get their second. Contract for my second, contract 762 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: it was headed into the. Lockout what was that? Old 763 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: what was old? Eleven it, Was, yeah so when you, 764 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: SIGNED i signed a three year. Deal going into the 765 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: lockout be my last. Year so you get your you 766 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: get your signing, bonus but you also put some you 767 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: defer some of your signing bowl to the end in 768 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: case we locked out that, year you can still, have you, 769 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: know keep. 770 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 2: Your money till the lockout figured. 771 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 1: Out so, anyway long story, short they ended up cutting 772 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: me the second day of camp the third year of my, 773 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: contract last year my. Contract SO i was already guaranteed some, 774 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: money and they asked me to take a pay. Cut 775 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: And i'm, like. 776 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: Y'all owe me. Money i'm. NOT i deferred the money 777 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 2: THAT i could. 778 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: Already i'm not taking a pay cut to play when 779 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: y'all got to pay. Me, Anyway they're, like, well we're 780 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: gonna cut. YOU i, said, well, congratulations shit cut. Me 781 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: so they cut. Me So i'm already getting paid that, 782 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: year So i'm gonna say the year off get. HEALTHY 783 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: i ended up having an athletic. PUBALGIA a couple of 784 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: years before, THAT i had A Liz Frank, WELL i 785 00:35:59,480 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: still got. 786 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 2: Screw it was in both my, feet SO i you 787 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 2: know What i'm. 788 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: SAYING i WAS i would get injured always late in the, 789 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: season and Then i'd work out all off, season come, 790 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: back start, again and everybody out and just keep, playing keep. 791 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: PLAYING i took that year. 792 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 2: Off my. 793 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: Wife she was nine months pregnant when they cut. Me 794 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: we had our Son august twenty, ninth, right you, know 795 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: right at the end. Camp so three weeks AFTER i got. 796 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: Cut So i'm sitting there one day and it wasn't 797 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: the physical. SIDE i was sitting there with my son running, 798 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: around just WATCHING tv on like A wednesday, morning drinking, 799 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: coffee AND i was like the WEIGHT i fell off 800 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: my back to perform and the weight AND i didn't 801 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: know how much PRESSURE i put on myself to be 802 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: prepared and to Make zach, happy to Make junior, happy 803 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: to Make georgia was, happy to Make Charlie strong, Happy 804 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: Ron zuoke, Happy Kevin whitley. Happy in high, school like 805 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: to be the. GUY i just it was part of, 806 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: Life like you have to be, ready you have to, 807 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: go you gotta, prepare you gotta run, bikes you have 808 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: TO i was almost like crazy about being ready to 809 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: play football and knowing every, snap know everybody's, job knowing 810 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: this WHEN i felt the other side of. RETIREMENT i 811 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: didn't know at the time it was the other side of. 812 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: Retirement i'm taking a year off to get my body back. Right, 813 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: MAN i felt the other side of. RETIREMENT i told my. 814 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: Wife it took much for her to believe. ME i, said, 815 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: MAN i ain't going. BACK i ain't doing that no 816 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: more BECAUSE i love. Football she KNOWS i. COACHED i got. 817 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: STILL i Watched max games On. TUESDAY i Love. Max 818 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: my Action max is. 819 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 2: Fun it's. Fun now it's a lot of. POINTS i 820 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 2: like the. Guests they gonna, Run they gonna run THE rpo. 821 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 2: Again he gonna. 822 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: Motion and, Cross he's gonna sit behind the tackle. LIKE 823 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: i like the what we used to do from. THAT 824 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: i do like to do it and be watching the 825 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: game MORE x AND o wise and all. That but 826 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: WHEN i it was more the mental health, side and 827 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: now they talk about a lot. More that was twenty 828 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: eleven when this was. HAPPENING i you talked about mental, 829 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: health SO i was preconcussion stuff to PRE ctv and 830 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 1: all that. Stuff but it was that that's why everybody 831 00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: said that you. Us but now they always Down the 832 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: thing is it was first was, uh the, injuries like 833 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: all injuries caught it with. YOU i was, like not, 834 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: REALLY i could have played a couple more. Years and 835 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: then it was oh he started getting, NAH i was never. 836 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: DIZZY i had all the little birdies and all. THAT 837 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: i been knocked out before The Charles bentley knocked me 838 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: to sleep in the. Game they had to wake me 839 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: back up on the, sideline sitting on the. Bench they 840 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 1: shook me to wake me up on the. FIELD i walked, 841 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: back sat on the, bench and those back. Off y'all 842 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: Remember charles the, Man that joker was so strong. TOO 843 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: i was another. 844 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 2: One when he caught me in my. 845 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 1: CHIN i, said, boy, Coach i'm not running the way 846 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: they got. Blisters what you, MEAN i, said send me 847 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: around the d send me. Anywhere i'm not running by 848 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: that man. Anymore said. Man just knocked me to sleep. Twice, 849 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: YEAH i not me to sleep twice in one. Hit 850 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: i'm not going in a no. More but WHEN i, 851 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: felt WHEN i felt the mental that mental PRESSURE i 852 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: was put on myself SINCE i was hell high, school 853 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: so probably, fifteen WHEN i became like the, man you 854 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: know both the. 855 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 2: Man when you became the, man. 856 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 1: And, everything the, win every, win every, loss every, touchdown 857 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: every anything was on your. SHOULDERS i feed all that 858 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: release AND i, said, MAN i like, THIS i like 859 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: this retirement. Life that's WHEN i was, like, Yep i'm. 860 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 1: Done went on radio and told them nobody believe, me 861 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: my whole, family all my. 862 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 2: Friends. 863 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: Bro you going, BACK i, said, watch don't believe, me 864 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: just watch. Now it's fourteen Years, YEAH i play, now, 865 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: Man i'm gonna do a feel of p tests and 866 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: throw up some. BILLS i go back to that. 867 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 2: LEAST i like. IT i like. 868 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 4: It SO i want to get into your second. Act 869 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 4: so you're in the broadcasting the media, space right you have? 870 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 2: This are you okay with calling it that the? Broadcasting? 871 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 3: Yeah BECAUSE i always feel weird because we just ALL 872 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 3: i just always grew up thinking. THAT i, said media. Space, 873 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 3: know the media is the. Enemy that's WHAT i. Hate 874 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 3: Sometimes i'm trying not to act Like i'm part of the. 875 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 3: Media you, ARE i, know you, KNOW i, KNOW i get. 876 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 2: It you, are we? Him we? Them now, okay all, 877 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 2: right we crossed over to the dark. 878 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: Side you got to be. Addressed for my FRIENDS A 879 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: g five U Ra Sean. JONES i was coming To 880 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: dolphin and he was still. PLAYING i played with. Him 881 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: he came in as A i was a. Vet then 882 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: he came in as a puppy From. Georgia dude From 883 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: georgia and the. Guy so we was, tight and somebody 884 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 1: told HIM i was on radio lighting their ass. 885 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 2: Up and our daughters are best. Friends and so we was. 886 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: Out we was fishing on the golf cart round out 887 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: bide the, house and he's just all of a sudden, like, 888 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 1: yes see, her you was killing the defense on. RADIO i, 889 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: said bron y'all just gave him one hundred and eighty 890 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: nine on the. Ground you want me to, say y'all 891 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: did a good. Job damn you, Right so you got 892 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: to justify it to. Him but if, you they gonna tighten. 893 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: Up but it's you're in a different spotlight because you're 894 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,879 Speaker 1: you're like, analyzing so you have To this is. Why 895 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: so you honestly do it when you, watching you do 896 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,439 Speaker 1: it when you're. BROADCASTING i can say WHATEVER i want 897 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: at any, time, anywhere and it's all. Opinion the, podcast 898 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: we own everything the. Radio i've been on radio for 899 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 1: thirteen years and we generate you, know, radio you have 900 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: to generate money from sponsorships and. Endorsements we generate enough 901 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: money where we can go in there and whistle for 902 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: four hours as long as the money keeps coming. In like, 903 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: Yeah so Like i've learned the. Space but, yeah being 904 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 1: an analyst is it's always gonna be, hard and somebody's 905 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: gonna be mad you praise. Them the other team gonna 906 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,439 Speaker 1: be mad you bad map, Them they're gonna be. Mad 907 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: man all y'all little babies can go to. Hell i'm 908 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: forty years, old worried about you mean you doing something? 909 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 1: THAT i, mean you doing something? Right nobody hating on. 910 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 1: You you're not. Successful, ABSOLUTELY. 911 00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 2: I did grind. THOUGH i grind. 912 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: IT i was making twenty grand a year doing radio 913 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 1: first and just Doing, yeah go back to your original. 914 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 2: QUESTION i apologize my. 915 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 4: Boy, no, no, No you're. Good but you're you're in the media. 916 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 4: Space i'm not gonna call it. Broadcasting you're in this media. 917 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 4: Space you have a very successful podcast with your co, 918 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 4: hosts with your your cowork excuse. 919 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 2: Me and you hear. 920 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 4: A lot of the struggles that players go through when 921 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 4: they make that transition FROM, NFL, nba from, actor entertainer. 922 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 4: Whatever and you hear the struggle that these these, uh 923 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 4: these entertainers go through trying to get out of their 924 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 4: their main. Act how does how does that feel when 925 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 4: you when you hear these, struggles, like how does that strike. 926 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: YOU i really breaks my heart BECAUSE i when you 927 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,959 Speaker 1: when you're when you're talking about, It i'm, like, y'all 928 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: it does pop up in your. Head you know he's. 929 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: Struggling damn you know HE i, KNOW i Know dom'm 930 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: thinking of never say his, name but he made double 931 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: WHAT i made in THE. Nfl he's a resource officer 932 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: at the. School it is in his hometown right, now you. 933 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 2: Know What i'm. 934 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: Saying, Like, man it's a lot of guys that their 935 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: identities football and they can't they can't continue, that and 936 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: it just it just breaks them to get where we. 937 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: Got you work so, hard five, am wake, up six, am, 938 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: workout year round. Trainers what's the people putting this? 939 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 2: In? You did? 940 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: You, punctures, massages, cold hot, tub the, diets the, shakes the, 941 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 1: pills to all the stuff you just to get your 942 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: body to be able to do. That and then you 943 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: want to go into something else the second act and 944 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,839 Speaker 1: you ain't gonna put half that for then you. Can't 945 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: YOU a lot of you just throw money at. Stuff 946 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: i'm a buy a. STUDIO i heard that so many. 947 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: Times hey, See i'm by a. Studio game. Sane you can't, 948 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: wrap you can't play. Instrument why you buy a Studio 949 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: because they try to throw money at. Everything you're gonna 950 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: keep throwing that, money and that money gonna run. Out 951 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: now you're broke with no. Job BUT i, say the 952 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: guys that are just crazy physically, TALENTED. 953 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 2: I see a lot of. 954 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: Them the GUYS i know that didn't work, hard but 955 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: are just stupid talented just Where god just sprinkled lecture on. 956 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: Them i've seen a lot of them. Fail the guys 957 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 1: that work hard that probably wouldn't have made it if 958 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: they didn't have just a crazy work. Ethic that's the 959 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: that's the honey. 960 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 2: HOLE i. 961 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: Think the dudes that willed themselves to professional. Sports those 962 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: are all my friends that are were that all have 963 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 1: post careers. Seamlessly the guys that Were god given talent 964 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: and worked hard Became hall of. Famers but some of 965 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 1: them struggle post, career even if it's not, financial because 966 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: they just they never had to work that. HARD i 967 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 1: can go out there and get three, sacks you know 968 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: What i'm, Saying get three. 969 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 2: Saxons do? 970 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 3: It they probably thinking they go get three sacks right? 971 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,360 Speaker 1: Now, Yeah but NOW i have to build a second 972 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: career WHERE i have to LIKE i, said go to 973 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: work every day for three, hours do three hour radio. 974 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: Show drive, there prepare for the. Show make twenty recks a. 975 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: YEAR i went from making you, know my best year 976 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: was what four? MILLION i left four million dollars to 977 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,320 Speaker 1: make twenty. Grand it's not about the. Money this is 978 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 1: going to lead to Something i'm. Building LIKE i. BUILT 979 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: i ain't get paid in high. SCHOOL i got that 980 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 1: made it a. SCHOLARSHIP i get. Paid we ain't get 981 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,320 Speaker 1: paid in. College y'all might, not but but you know 982 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: What i'm, saying you're building and then you and it 983 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: starts paying. 984 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 2: Off you do all. 985 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: THAT i started riding by the school WHEN i was 986 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: twelve years old for the for the fruits of THE, 987 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 1: nfl where guys don't want to start from the bottom 988 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: again after they've been to the. 989 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 2: Top nobody wants. 990 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: To fall off the, cliff look back up and just 991 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 1: take that next step to start climbing. Up AND i 992 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: think that's the that's the biggest problem with the second 993 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: act is That i've. Seen i've seen just guys just 994 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: don't want to go. AROUND i ask them all the. 995 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: Time the podcast stuff is the huge like this is 996 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 1: the new explosion, Early, yeah we called it. Early hey, 997 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: Man i'm doing my own. Podcast first, THING i, asked 998 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 1: how many you? Got, huh how many podcasts you? Got 999 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,879 Speaker 1: it's it's easy to you, know especially like a little 1000 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: go pros, easy like you don't got to have. It you, 1001 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: know y'all got y'all got. Up, yeah, y'all y'all. ESTABLISHED 1002 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,720 Speaker 1: i appreciate. Discovers it is. ESTABLISHED i appreciate. 1003 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 2: That, yeah. Y'all see the, CAMERAS i don't know one of. 1004 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: THOSE i know they got numbers on, them AND i 1005 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,839 Speaker 1: KNOW t four seven, thousands AND i know y'all got nice. 1006 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: Stuff But i'm, like, bro get you a little, camera 1007 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: go to the to the to the circus, city get your, 1008 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: camera start. Talking you got a, guest have somebody move 1009 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: to camera like you're gonna start, small but just just. 1010 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 4: WORK i think they got them in best by the 1011 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 4: Little Circus city is no longer in business and. 1012 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 2: They out of. Business that's like radio. Shack so tell me, 1013 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 2: this Lazy, see. 1014 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 3: IF i had to, say all, right, chanting what would 1015 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 3: that one piece of advice, be you would say it 1016 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 3: is grind or what would it be to use. 1017 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 1: It in the post? Career the podcast and stuff is. 1018 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 1: Consistency we haven't missed A, tuesday and going on four, 1019 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,319 Speaker 1: years we have missed it On. Tuesday in four, years 1020 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: we might have missed Ten. Fridays, yeah four, years you 1021 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:22,839 Speaker 1: know What i'm. Saying, so, yeah that's that's. 1022 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 2: Big it's. Content you got to you gotta put it 1023 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 2: out there to push it. 1024 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 1: Out and now you have people asking who y'all Got, 1025 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: tuesday like random people at the gas. Stage, yeah you 1026 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 1: know who y'all Got? Tuesday you know What i'm. Saying 1027 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 1: so now people are looking for it. Everywhere, yeah they go, 1028 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: ahead somebody, go come, On peanut jumped. On you KNOW 1029 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 1: i saw that happy even tell ME i saw That peanut. 1030 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 2: On, man that's. Crazy what? 1031 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 4: That? 1032 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: Yeah they had no idea having those conversations consistently EVERYWHERE i, 1033 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 1: go because you got that. Following but if you if, 1034 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 1: you and honestly the podcasting, algorithm you. Can't you have 1035 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 1: to have consistency to get to the higher pace scales 1036 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: of them and stuff like. That you have three great, 1037 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,320 Speaker 1: shows they ain't giving you six figures for three. Shows, 1038 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 1: now if you have three months worth the shows that 1039 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,240 Speaker 1: are consistently doing, Well now they can see the marketing 1040 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: side of. It oh they're Half they're getting quarter, million 1041 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 1: half a million million views for months on. END i 1042 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 1: can throw them some. Money now for the next three, 1043 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,400 Speaker 1: MONTHS i can throw them some money Because i've seen the. 1044 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 1: Work you, know three shows is three. Weeks, no but 1045 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,720 Speaker 1: that's not a big enough simple size in this. Industry 1046 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 1: you know What i'm. Saying it's just like. Football everybody 1047 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: can have a good, game everybody have a good, month 1048 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: even a. Year you got to come, back get another, 1049 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,760 Speaker 1: year do it, again do it, again do it. Again 1050 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,879 Speaker 1: and that's WHAT i. Say consistency and really work, man People, 1051 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,800 Speaker 1: HONEST i said to the. Kid people are lazy and 1052 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,919 Speaker 1: people too worried about their damn. Phones WHEN i talked 1053 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 1: to a lot of especially you, KNOW i don't do 1054 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 1: it to grown men BECAUSE i don't you, KNOW i 1055 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 1: don't only care about grown people like they're already jaded. 1056 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 1: Life then beat you up already you hate, This you're 1057 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,840 Speaker 1: gonna hate. It i'm not talking to you, talking no 1058 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: fifty year old eating. Octorpush you don't want a oct to. 1059 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 1: Push you ain't the. Octupuss but WHEN i talk to, kids, 1060 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 1: youngins and it's Funny i'm old now call like them twenty, olds, 1061 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 1: teenagers mid, twenties call them. Kids they're asked me stuff about. 1062 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,879 Speaker 1: SUCCESS i, said open your, phone go to screen. Time 1063 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:24,240 Speaker 1: everybody got all children, now those that age ten plus 1064 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 1: hours of screen time a. DAY i showed. Mine mine 1065 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 1: is never over. Three it's always doing some. Change AND 1066 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: i say, SO i am doing something to help myself get. 1067 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 1: Better for seven hours and one day more than you. 1068 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: Are because you're looking through social, media liking pictures of 1069 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 1: texting girls or whatever you're doing on your. 1070 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 2: PHONE i have seven. 1071 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: Hours i'm seven hours ahead of you every single day 1072 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: through the math seven times seven forty. Nine it's Almost 1073 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 1: i'm fifty hours ahead of you in one. Week i'm 1074 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,359 Speaker 1: two hundred hours ahead of you in a. Month you're 1075 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 1: playing on your. Phone you're playing your your successful, way 1076 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,919 Speaker 1: scrolling that. Phone that phone is rually. 1077 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:04,240 Speaker 2: People. 1078 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 1: MAN i KNOW i sound. Older people hate this. OPINION 1079 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,360 Speaker 1: i get killed for that. Phone that phone is really 1080 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 1: messing up. People AND i, know, LISTEN i tell you 1081 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 1: answer when you're thinking. IT i know there's. STREAMERS i 1082 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 1: know there's people that monetize. ONLINE i monetize. ONLINE i. 1083 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 2: DO i don't sit and look at. 1084 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 1: Them, damn people's screens and see if you went on 1085 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 1: vacation To california On. WEDNESDAY i don't give a damn 1086 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 1: way you went On. Wednesday i'm trying to go To 1087 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 1: california and doing. THAT i need to be, Successful so 1088 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 1: that WOULD i, say stay off your damn, phone don't 1089 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 1: do The, facebook My, space. Tiktoks they just keep making 1090 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 1: up shit. Too it's more social media sites now than 1091 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,919 Speaker 1: damn the gas. Stations it's always something for that phone 1092 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 1: to distract. You you can stay up that, phone have 1093 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: that work, ethic and be consistent with what you're gonna. 1094 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 1: Do that's HOW i think guys that have successful second 1095 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 1: careers make. 1096 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:03,320 Speaker 4: It so you sound, well think for, that that that coaching, 1097 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 4: tip that. Advice you sound like you're busy as hell 1098 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,319 Speaker 4: all the time and Missed tuesday and over four. 1099 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 2: Years that's. CRAZY i didn't know. That, YEAH i didn't know. 1100 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,879 Speaker 2: That it's. Dope that's why y'all are again. 1101 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 4: Successful so you got the, podcast sports, radio you got 1102 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 4: the cooking brand that you, do and you also have 1103 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 4: you got a lot of followers and on on on social. 1104 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 4: Media how do you find time to do all these? 1105 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 4: Things because you sound like you're extremely busy all the. Time, 1106 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 4: honestly you got travel. 1107 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 1: Based, yeah you got that because people that if you 1108 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 1: don't know you that's h travel au and, travel. 1109 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 2: Driving. 1110 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 1: Hotels, yeah, Honestly uh my, wife my wife does a. Lot, 1111 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 1: yeah BECAUSE i guys got to be. There like the 1112 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 1: podcast isn't, Hard but it's just the. Travel it's just time. 1113 00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 1: Though it's it's time away from your. Family, yeah you're 1114 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,280 Speaker 1: kids and, stuff, right. 1115 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 2: But football was the. 1116 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 1: Same when we play, ball you gotta be you really 1117 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 1: if you really, going you going to the facility to 1118 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 1: get the early work out. In. Yeah so when that, 1119 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,359 Speaker 1: window that that little the little call we already called 1120 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 1: it the sorry dude window that after practice. Workout that's 1121 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 1: not a real work how you tied His, HELL i, 1122 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,839 Speaker 1: Agree go in the, morning get that work out, in 1123 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 1: then go to. Meeting it's got some recovery. Time so 1124 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 1: practice and then the dudes are gonna be in the 1125 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 1: league for eight, months nine, months they gonna work out 1126 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,959 Speaker 1: after practice because they didn't want to wake up early. 1127 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 1: Enough so that's the, thing the grind of. It right, 1128 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 1: NOW i miss a lot of stuff with my. Kids 1129 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 1: my wife has taken to school every Day i'm. HOME 1130 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 1: i take them to. School But I'm i'm out of 1131 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 1: town at least two days a week, shooting you know 1132 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,919 Speaker 1: What i'm, saying filming miss basketball practice after school BECAUSE 1133 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,399 Speaker 1: i have a radio show from two to Six monday 1134 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,799 Speaker 1: Through friday for thirteen. Years it's just the sacrifice is 1135 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,839 Speaker 1: the same sacrifice that everybody. Does there's firemen out there 1136 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,320 Speaker 1: that work twelve hour. Shift they're missing. Stuff there's a 1137 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 1: lot of people that are grinding in their realm that 1138 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 1: are sacrificing for, success for, money for whatever they that thought. 1139 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,359 Speaker 1: Is and why WOULDN'T i even though you, know oh 1140 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: you got, MONEY i, know AND i want. MORE i 1141 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 1: get a billion, dollars you KNOW i. WANT i want 1142 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: a billion one. DOLLARS i don't even want two. 1143 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 2: Billion you don't even want. 1144 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 1: TO i don't Even i'm not even looking at too 1145 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 1: if IF i want a billion, Dollars i'm just looking 1146 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 1: for that next. 1147 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,879 Speaker 2: ONE i get a, billion and one, MAN i get 1148 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 2: that billion too. Later you know What i'm. Saying we 1149 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,799 Speaker 2: literally talked about this in the car on the way up. 1150 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,440 Speaker 3: Here so it's easy because all you want when you're, 1151 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,719 Speaker 3: YOUNG i just want a million. Dollars then when you 1152 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 3: get one you're, LIKE i THINK i want to, MAN 1153 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 3: i ran through, it BRO i ran through a million 1154 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,360 Speaker 3: dollars in four. Months oh talk about this because everybody 1155 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,800 Speaker 3: loves to hear how that people spend their first million 1156 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 3: dollars are. 1157 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:53,759 Speaker 2: Super, easy you know What i'm? 1158 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,319 Speaker 1: Like it was seven hundred grand BECAUSE i ended up 1159 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,440 Speaker 1: it was seven fifty BECAUSE i had a million dollar 1160 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 1: credit line through The lords Of london who gave me the. 1161 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 1: Advance you, know they'll do the research and, say all 1162 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 1: you going on the first? Round you about to make? 1163 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 2: It what get me? 1164 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 1: IN i could call a lady anytime twenty four to 1165 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 1: seven and SAY i need thirty. GRAND i could look 1166 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 1: on my phone on the app. App then at a 1167 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 1: website you. 1168 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 2: Had to go. On be. Old we didn't. Ourselves we 1169 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 2: had no apps, here no app from my little. 1170 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,759 Speaker 1: Phone BUT i could go on the, website log, in 1171 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 1: refresh and twenty thirty fifteen hundred thousand dollars just pop 1172 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:29,320 Speaker 1: up my. 1173 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 2: Account they were just transferring. IT i go to the. 1174 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 2: Mall Remember JABO. 1175 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:37,880 Speaker 1: Jean'so SO i worked out Tom Shaw Ken louise M. 1176 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 1: YEAH i worked out with Tom shaw pre draft. Explanation 1177 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,919 Speaker 1: malls across The. Street Jabo jean was was that THING 1178 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 1: i could afford him in. College that's over In Kenner. 1179 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 1: Bro that, yeah killer right. 1180 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 2: There by the lake. BRO i was there for four. 1181 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 2: MONTHS i wanted to go into the. 1182 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 1: Mall tell the, LADY i want every Color jubo. Jin 1183 00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,800 Speaker 1: you have every Color jaboul short you. Have if you 1184 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 1: don't order, them, well that would be you, know that'll 1185 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,799 Speaker 1: be thirty two pair of, This that'll be thirty pair of. These, 1186 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 1: okay order them, well, sir that would be you, know 1187 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 1: eighteen thousand. Whatever it, was eighteen thousand. Dollars, okay to 1188 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,880 Speaker 1: do HAD i need twenty grand put in my. Account, 1189 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 1: okay thank, You hold one, second twenty pop, up give 1190 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 1: them the credit. 1191 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 2: Card it was monopoly. Money it really was mopoly. 1192 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,120 Speaker 1: MONEY i bought A i bought A, hummer a big, 1193 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 1: one the one h one one cash terrible on, gas 1194 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 1: terrible on. Gas not a good. Ride it's a military. 1195 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 1: CARD i can see some. Hard they don't have no, 1196 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,920 Speaker 1: shocks BUT i look. Hard ride Through gainsville in that 1197 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,880 Speaker 1: age but white age. ONE i know you have some 1198 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:45,360 Speaker 1: shoes on. 1199 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,600 Speaker 2: It oh a. SYSTEM i had. SHOES i. LEFT i. 1200 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,680 Speaker 1: LEFT i left a military looking BUT i did throw 1201 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 1: three fifteens in the, back. Okay AND i bought a 1202 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty Three chevy nineteen eighty three CAUSE i was 1203 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,840 Speaker 1: born in eighty, three eighty, Three Uh. 1204 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 2: Chevy and this is all before you got. Drafted you got. 1205 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 2: DRAFTED i just to make SURE i KNEW i was leaving. 1206 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:12,719 Speaker 2: ALREADY i Had Joe. 1207 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 1: SIEGEL i already met with agents my my sophomore, year 1208 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 1: great shirt sophomore. YEAR i already met with agent. ALREADY 1209 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 1: i didn't sign With joe because you, know you couldn't 1210 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: sign With white. Still so we played in The Peach 1211 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,360 Speaker 1: bowl Against Frank Gore hestering and. Boys they beat the 1212 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 1: hell out of us In Peach. Bowl january first, FIVE 1213 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 1: i Declared january, SECOND i. Had Then i'm A january, 1214 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,240 Speaker 1: FOURTH i went and found a dude that did Young jezu's, 1215 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 1: cars because why what'? 1216 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 2: Not because that's what YOU i, Mean. 1217 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 1: Jesus he told, me get, up remember get A, chevy 1218 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 1: same color traplicana orange. 1219 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,280 Speaker 2: Juice remember that song as, yeah trapper. 1220 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,960 Speaker 1: DIE i went and bought A, chevy told him to 1221 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 1: painted the same colors troplican of orange. JUICE i bought 1222 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,840 Speaker 1: eleven alligators FROM californi they Were caymans BECAUSE i wanted 1223 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 1: alligator seats BECAUSE i was a. Gator it was orange and, blue, 1224 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,799 Speaker 1: orange blue and white the whole. Car SO i was, 1225 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,320 Speaker 1: LIKE i want alligators skin and. Tear they were, like, 1226 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,040 Speaker 1: oh we got, this you know alligator. PRINT i, said, 1227 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,480 Speaker 1: NO i want ALLIGATE i want to sit on alligator. 1228 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 1: Skin they were, like, well we don't have alligator skin 1229 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,600 Speaker 1: just laying. Around you'd have to buy the. Alligators kill, 1230 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 1: them skin, them get it, tanned orange and, blue and 1231 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 1: then give them to. 1232 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 2: Us and we. 1233 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 1: Could we could make the, seats we can make the, 1234 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 1: dashboard we can make. Everything say, less say. Less i'm 1235 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 1: gonna find a way to find these. GATORS i bought 1236 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 1: eleven alligators From, california never saw my, life got them, 1237 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,120 Speaker 1: killed got them, skinned got them, dried got them, tanned 1238 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 1: shipped them To, atlanta and got my alligator skin interior 1239 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 1: put in the. Car seven thousand, dollars sound, system TVs, everywhere. 1240 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 2: And we everybody had TV's in the cars. 1241 00:57:55,160 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 1: Too of sun. Roof the normal slide back sunroof wasn't good. 1242 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,640 Speaker 1: Enough ti the rapper told, me you need the t. 1243 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,560 Speaker 1: Top the song ain't. Cool enough you got to have 1244 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 1: with the tea top where you know where it's just. 1245 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 2: Split in the, middle old school tea. 1246 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 1: Tops SO i got the whole roof redone because they 1247 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 1: had a sun, roof so it had a big. HOLD 1248 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,880 Speaker 1: i had the whole roof redone just to cut the 1249 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 1: tea top holes in. It it was a nineteen eighty. 1250 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 1: THREE i put over one hundred grand into a nineteen 1251 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 1: eighty three, vehicle and that's two thousand and. 1252 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 2: Five you sure got that. 1253 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 1: CAR i sold it. FIVE i probably sold about eight 1254 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 1: years ago out of for a. While, okay what made 1255 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 1: me want to sell it WAS i had in the 1256 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 1: garage and for so what was? It because my son's 1257 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 1: fired it might have been my, daughter and we're, like, 1258 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah i'm gonna take out The. Chevy it had no 1259 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 1: clips for the for the baby. Seat they had no 1260 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,080 Speaker 1: clips for the baby. Seat AND i was, like it 1261 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 1: was the dumbest thing in the world to make me. 1262 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 1: Think damn, man you in your mid thirties called this 1263 00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars heavy with t top with a 1264 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:02,040 Speaker 1: system in the. 1265 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 2: Back you can't even. Hear you cannot even play. 1266 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:09,960 Speaker 1: ANYTHING i CAN'T i don't know what song it is 1267 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 1: my ears are. Busting AND i was, like you know, 1268 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 1: what let me sell. It AND i sold it to 1269 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 1: some some real some rich, DUDE i mean in o'calla 1270 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,439 Speaker 1: who loved the gators and he double depriced me found. 1271 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 1: It it was my old, car AND i have my signature 1272 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 1: ext in extend to the speaker box AND i had 1273 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 1: fifty two. Everywhere, yeah candy paint fifty two HAD i 1274 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,760 Speaker 1: want to see principal when we finished with wrapp this. 1275 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,720 Speaker 1: UP i want to see same. 1276 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:40,600 Speaker 2: Thing like one. 1277 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 1: Thing who that gave hell about buying out cheesecake? 1278 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:43,920 Speaker 2: Factory was That? 1279 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:48,720 Speaker 3: EVINCE i Know Mario williams did a lot too like. That, 1280 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 3: Yeah mario did a. Lot you make. It you go 1281 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 3: to the. Club, HEY i got bottle service for. Everybody 1282 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 3: JUST i. 1283 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,440 Speaker 1: Got twenty with. Me it was only five. TABLE i 1284 00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,600 Speaker 1: want foe. Tables three bottles the, table easy. Man SO 1285 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 1: i got to buy twelve. Bottles? Cool you ask uh 1286 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:10,200 Speaker 1: that right back on the. 1287 01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:15,760 Speaker 2: Phone, Hey, ELIZABETH i need a twenty five. Thousand he'll 1288 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,160 Speaker 2: take this credit? Card. Right it. 1289 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,720 Speaker 1: Was it was a monopoly. Money it was a monopoly. 1290 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 1: Money then WHEN i WHEN i dropped to the third. 1291 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 1: Round this is just funny. TOO i ain't know no. 1292 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 2: BETTER i. 1293 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 1: WAS i just turned twenty One december. Second they gave 1294 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 1: me a million dollars a month, later no financial, education, 1295 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 1: Nothing so WHEN i dropped to the third round from 1296 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 1: eight million my first my first contract was four years 1297 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:43,000 Speaker 1: for four. 1298 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,840 Speaker 2: Million SO i went from eight million dollars guaranteed. 1299 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 1: Up front to four for four my First my first, 1300 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:51,040 Speaker 1: YEAR i made. 1301 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 2: Seven hundred THS i. 1302 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:55,400 Speaker 1: SPENT i THINK i spent thirty THREE i did the 1303 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 1: like thirty one thousand dollars less my first year of, 1304 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 1: contract my signing, bonus and my first year, contract my 1305 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:07,000 Speaker 1: first year. SALARY i only made thirty thousand dollars that 1306 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,600 Speaker 1: year BECAUSE i. SPENT i spent seven hundred and forty 1307 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 1: thousand AND i made seven hundred and eighty thousand or 1308 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:13,200 Speaker 1: something like. 1309 01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:17,760 Speaker 2: That that boy living on the. Edge, yeah, WELL i, 1310 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 2: mean so when you're when your name's. 1311 01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 3: Not being called and you know all the damage that you've, 1312 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,200 Speaker 3: done are you getting nervous at? 1313 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:30,800 Speaker 2: All are? You or is that not even on your? Mind? Five? Five, 1314 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,280 Speaker 2: OKAY i went. Out IT'S i went. 1315 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,440 Speaker 1: Fishing me and my homeboys had took the big, hummer 1316 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,959 Speaker 1: packed up got, shiners got. Worms had a big old, 1317 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 1: thing a, cool big old cooler full of bean liquor 1318 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,680 Speaker 1: and drinks and all kind of. Stuff had my, homeboy 1319 01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,360 Speaker 1: me and my homeboys rolling the, hummer and then we 1320 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 1: had some from friends that weren't boys drive behind. 1321 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,840 Speaker 2: Us we had a little. 1322 01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,760 Speaker 1: Party so we had a little you, know little. Perklet i'm, 1323 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:00,040 Speaker 1: LIKE i don't want TO i don't want to do the. 1324 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,120 Speaker 1: Thing While i'm sitting, there you, know sitting. NOWHERE i 1325 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,280 Speaker 1: ain't get invited to the. Draft So i'm, like you know, 1326 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:05,440 Speaker 1: Why i'm gonna go out to the. LAKE i don't 1327 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:06,440 Speaker 1: want no cameras. Around we go to. 1328 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,280 Speaker 2: Cheer i'm gonna get. Picked we'd be. Good so we 1329 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,439 Speaker 2: out there were. Fishing they got the post laid. 1330 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 1: OUT i had a music plan AND i have my 1331 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,960 Speaker 1: phone with me plugged in to the speaker where if 1332 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,640 Speaker 1: the phone, rings the music would cut, Off and SO 1333 01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,440 Speaker 1: i had the phone. There so they, called you know this, 1334 01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,720 Speaker 1: calling And i'm you, Know i'm, checking checking my other, 1335 01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 1: phone looking At, okay they're on the. 1336 01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:26,960 Speaker 2: Fifteenth. 1337 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 1: Pick, Okay i'm not going to, Twenty so twenty come. 1338 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,959 Speaker 1: AROUND i look Green, bay select, Somebody, okay so thirty 1339 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:33,920 Speaker 1: two at the, ladies Mal kaiper told, me it's who's a. 1340 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:35,880 Speaker 2: LIAR i don't. Know you probably work with. Him he 1341 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,320 Speaker 2: don't know what he's talking. About. 1342 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,440 Speaker 1: ANYWAY i got my OWN i got my own. Spirit 1343 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 1: so they say thirty. Two they hot they Drafted Logan, 1344 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:48,280 Speaker 1: mankins who was a great play player play but they, 1345 01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,480 Speaker 1: said so it gets in there to the twenty eight 1346 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 1: twenty nine, say, hey, y'all SO i turned the draft, 1347 01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,160 Speaker 1: on blaring over the big speakers in the homework at 1348 01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 1: the big, system blaring over speakers and the, hummer, huh twenty, 1349 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 1: nine go, ahead thirty thirty, One hey, Y'all hey, y'all 1350 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:02,760 Speaker 1: here we. 1351 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:06,800 Speaker 2: Go phone ain't. Ring nobody said anything but Mel. 1352 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,640 Speaker 1: Kiper here we, Go, Fellas here we, go, ladies thirty, 1353 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:14,520 Speaker 1: second pick and. Weird The patriots ain't called me by, 1354 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,160 Speaker 1: now because they usually when they, picky they're gonna call 1355 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:16,840 Speaker 1: you before they pick. 1356 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:17,480 Speaker 2: You i've seen it ON. 1357 01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 1: Tv The patriots Select logan Making siguard out OF i don't, 1358 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 1: know western Northern. KENTUCKY i don't know where the hell 1359 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 1: he went to. School, now everybody's just staying, homeboys staying 1360 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 1: girls standing. 1361 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:31,520 Speaker 2: Nobody know what to. 1362 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,560 Speaker 1: Do i'm just kind of. LOOKING i started to look 1363 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:38,960 Speaker 1: at the lake, here, y'all let's wrap this shit. 1364 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 2: UP i. DIDN'T i. DIDN'T i turned everything. OFF i was. 1365 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,040 Speaker 1: THERE i was, hot, hot got back in the. Car 1366 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:47,760 Speaker 1: no music on the way, back no nothing on the. 1367 01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,960 Speaker 1: Drink talk about forty five minutes outside of, games we'll 1368 01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:52,880 Speaker 1: roll back to my. Apartment so now everybody's just sit 1369 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,000 Speaker 1: around the. Apartment So i'm sitting there about we get back 1370 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 1: probably by the end of the second. Round staying got 1371 01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,919 Speaker 1: a call and so in that right at in the second, 1372 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 1: round my homeboy who my boy. 1373 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 2: To this, Day jay AND t played with me At. 1374 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,720 Speaker 1: Florida they was, like, hey, y'all let's go grab some 1375 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,800 Speaker 1: of The they they knew that, man this lives man, 1376 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,360 Speaker 1: alone this man these. Times so everybody leave my apartment 1377 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:15,920 Speaker 1: and then The dolphins picked. Me what was it like 1378 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,280 Speaker 1: sixty third or something like. That it was early in 1379 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,720 Speaker 1: the third. Round and When Nick saby, CALLED i wasn't 1380 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:24,040 Speaker 1: even happy with my. Phone Run, hey how are you? 1381 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,200 Speaker 1: Doing somebody gonna talk to? You, Okay hey, Crowding, hey 1382 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:28,760 Speaker 1: this is you know next saving you know where the 1383 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:29,560 Speaker 1: draft here at the next. 1384 01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,600 Speaker 2: Pick, man that's. Cool i'm. Hot i'm hot that so that's. 1385 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,160 Speaker 1: Funny WHEN i tell you WHAT i tell just the 1386 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,200 Speaker 1: story to people For they're, like but you like you? 1387 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,400 Speaker 2: Went you were the sixtiest best player in the. 1388 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,240 Speaker 1: DRAFT i, said, BRO i was planning on being the 1389 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,080 Speaker 1: thirty second best player and make eight million dollars as 1390 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,560 Speaker 1: soon as my name's. Called and Now i'm sitting on 1391 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,840 Speaker 1: my side Of moses was five eighty. EIGHT i was 1392 01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,200 Speaker 1: from eight million to five eighty. Eight i'm not happy at, 1393 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,840 Speaker 1: all BECAUSE i REALLY i. WAS i, said like the 1394 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 1: prize for the, Day i've said it for. You you brought it, 1395 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,720 Speaker 1: up people said. IT i was trying to change my kids', 1396 01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:06,920 Speaker 1: lives like my whole. THING i got to get out of, 1397 01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 1: this Like i'm not staying as a part. More i'm 1398 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,160 Speaker 1: sleeping my. Bedroom in high, SCHOOL i didn't even have a. 1399 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,760 Speaker 1: Closet NOW i look, Back that's why The Washington drive 1400 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,920 Speaker 1: in the, kitchen BECAUSE i was really sleeping in the 1401 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 1: damn laundry room AND i didn't have a. CLOSET i 1402 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 1: didn't know WHY i did have a closet BECAUSE i 1403 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,480 Speaker 1: was sleeping in the laundry. Room i'm not sleeping loundroom no. 1404 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 1: More i'm gonna go get this. Money i'm gonna go 1405 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 1: knock these dudes out until they started paying. 1406 01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:33,560 Speaker 2: Me absolutely and got. Paid, YEAH i ain't never heard 1407 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 2: a story like. That that's WHY i had. 1408 01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:39,040 Speaker 1: That know that gets hot when you think you're on first. 1409 01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:39,320 Speaker 2: Round. 1410 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,400 Speaker 1: It, No i'm telling, you that's. THAT i won't wish 1411 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:45,280 Speaker 1: that on. Nobody so your mount rushmore of. 1412 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:50,520 Speaker 4: Greatness you get four picks that people have helped you 1413 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:52,760 Speaker 4: become the man you are. 1414 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,920 Speaker 2: Today you get four. Picks who are those four? People? 1415 01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:00,480 Speaker 1: MM i go back with my wife is the? First 1416 01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:04,160 Speaker 1: the first. One i'm chiseling BECAUSE i didn't that was no. 1417 01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,880 Speaker 1: PLAN i ain't never you, KNOW i wasn't a virgin 1418 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,520 Speaker 1: WHEN i met, Her BUT i never thought ABOUT i never. 1419 01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,920 Speaker 1: THOUGHT i never saw somebody in the. LIGHT i saw my, 1420 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:14,840 Speaker 1: wife and she changed me. 1421 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,320 Speaker 2: Totally that's. AWESOME i was. 1422 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:20,320 Speaker 1: WILD i was, Wild no, WILD i was day In, 1423 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:25,560 Speaker 1: Miami gainesville To miami starting, balling got a unique lookal 1424 01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,360 Speaker 1: the tattoos and dreads and all. Like, Yeah miami WAS i. 1425 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,640 Speaker 1: WAS i was enjoying every second Of South. Florida and, 1426 01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,280 Speaker 1: UH i met my wife and it just totally totally 1427 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,360 Speaker 1: just switched me. Around so that's. AWESOME i, joke we joked. 1428 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,440 Speaker 1: Down i'm, like, MAN i don't know where i'd. BE 1429 01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,400 Speaker 1: i wouldn't BE i wouldn't be, successful like you're talking about, 1430 01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,320 Speaker 1: this second, act this second act will not happen without my. 1431 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,360 Speaker 2: Wife we. MET i played one one more. 1432 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:52,080 Speaker 1: Year me and my wife dated for my last season 1433 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:56,760 Speaker 1: and then got married two years after we. Met SO 1434 01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,200 Speaker 1: i married a year into my. Retirement but, yeah without, 1435 01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,600 Speaker 1: her there's no, pivot there's no none of this. Stuff 1436 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:06,200 Speaker 1: there's no there's no crowded, powder there's no cooking, line 1437 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,400 Speaker 1: there's NO, tv there's no, rate doesn't. Nothing WELL i 1438 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:15,080 Speaker 1: heard going, Backwards Zach thomas has to be on. There 1439 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,360 Speaker 1: zach took A jack took me under his wing, weirdly 1440 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:24,080 Speaker 1: and people told me because that that was that was The, 1441 01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,640 Speaker 1: Dolphins thatt J. T everybody knew That zack J t 1442 01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,360 Speaker 1: was The. Dolphins After, marino it was J. T and 1443 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,360 Speaker 1: they brought In they brought In pope to play next to. 1444 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,880 Speaker 1: Him they brought It Eddie more From tennessee play next to. 1445 01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,440 Speaker 1: Him before, That Morland greenwood was. Here they had some 1446 01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:42,000 Speaker 1: guy they had some linebackers playing as exact but the 1447 01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:45,560 Speaker 1: guys that you know the best THAT i already, hear they were, 1448 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,400 Speaker 1: like for some, Reason zach kind of took me on this. 1449 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,040 Speaker 1: ONE i don't know what it, was but he just 1450 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,360 Speaker 1: he would have asked, me, hey and he's just he 1451 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,440 Speaker 1: made a few, words but He's. Zach he come to 1452 01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,800 Speaker 1: me right after the first. Camp we kind of, saw you, 1453 01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 1: know he SAW i could. Play and then we're going 1454 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:02,720 Speaker 1: into after camp and you, know you had that time 1455 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,440 Speaker 1: off and you come back to pay for the. Season 1456 01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,280 Speaker 1: LIKE i think it was maybe that second day we 1457 01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,520 Speaker 1: come back to like you, know who's the. Starter let's 1458 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:13,240 Speaker 1: get ready For let's get ready for the. Jets let's 1459 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:17,240 Speaker 1: get ready for. It like that week they see aw 1460 01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,800 Speaker 1: the practice come to the crib and he went up 1461 01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,120 Speaker 1: To he had a whole movie theater in his house for. 1462 01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,080 Speaker 1: Film he had the, clicker just like the coaches had 1463 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,639 Speaker 1: had all that. Stuff and he just sit, there won't say. 1464 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:32,680 Speaker 1: Nothing he just watched and he wrote. Notes he's right, 1465 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,640 Speaker 1: handed And i'd sit to his. Left he write his 1466 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,599 Speaker 1: notes cross body and just have his notes between us two. 1467 01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:39,559 Speaker 2: So THAT i could read. 1468 01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:43,519 Speaker 1: Him he didn't say, hey, well when it's tight end 1469 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,280 Speaker 1: he actually. Crawled you, know he wouldn't saying. That he 1470 01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,479 Speaker 1: just write his. Notes he watched the, PLAYER i watched the, 1471 01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,120 Speaker 1: play put his clicker down and write his notes between 1472 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,320 Speaker 1: us and just keep. White he do it for. Hours 1473 01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:54,680 Speaker 1: so without, HIM i WOULDN'T i wouldn't have known how. 1474 01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,360 Speaker 2: To be a. Professional that's without zachin. 1475 01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:02,679 Speaker 1: That Charlie strong was big teaching me football in college 1476 01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:10,680 Speaker 1: and just like testing me where he saw something in 1477 01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,760 Speaker 1: me THAT i, LIKE i KNEW i was, good but 1478 01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:15,120 Speaker 1: he would he. 1479 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:16,840 Speaker 2: Would he would really try. 1480 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:18,920 Speaker 1: Me he would really bring you talking about like the 1481 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:22,679 Speaker 1: saving things where he knew to try. People chuck would 1482 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:26,839 Speaker 1: try me at all. Times run to the. Sideline we're Playing. 1483 01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,280 Speaker 1: Florida stayed at. Home one time they had Big Greg. 1484 01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,200 Speaker 1: Jones that was huge. Man he almost destroyed that goy 1485 01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:36,240 Speaker 1: From North. Carolina he broke my face masks, off my. 1486 01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 1: HELMET i looked LIKE i was playing in the. Forties 1487 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,880 Speaker 1: we hitting that big gap pop AND i stood up 1488 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:44,680 Speaker 1: and my face mass fell. Off he started laughing with 1489 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,639 Speaker 1: him And Leon. WASHING i had to Chase Leon washing 1490 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,960 Speaker 1: a little fast ass. Around THEN i had to Hit Greg. 1491 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 1: Jones Man Charlie stark coms the. SIDELINE i was not gonna, 1492 01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,000 Speaker 1: say and so you, know it's loudest head us in the. 1493 01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,240 Speaker 1: Swamp SO i turned my turned my head like, this you. 1494 01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,120 Speaker 1: Know so he yell on my ear you, know my ear, 1495 01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,960 Speaker 1: hole AND i don't hear. Nothing AND i look AND 1496 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 1: i do that, again AND i look at. Him he 1497 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:03,600 Speaker 1: just staying in the. 1498 01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:08,880 Speaker 2: EYES i, like what's, up? Bro you All? 1499 01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,679 Speaker 1: American ain't? It we're gonna play like All? American got. 1500 01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,479 Speaker 1: That it was no x and ose. Stuff he called 1501 01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,760 Speaker 1: the time out to bring me over there to like 1502 01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:23,160 Speaker 1: your game they Are you're our best player and their 1503 01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,840 Speaker 1: best players are your competition went out there involved that. 1504 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:28,920 Speaker 1: Game that was like it was the early time out. 1505 01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:30,360 Speaker 1: TOO i was WE i was weird that like why 1506 01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:31,920 Speaker 1: y'all caught the TIME i so? Early it was for 1507 01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,400 Speaker 1: him to cuss me. Out so that was that was 1508 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,840 Speaker 1: his way of being, like, no, BRO i ain't gonna 1509 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,080 Speaker 1: let this happen to you went out there and did. 1510 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,320 Speaker 1: It So chuck even through high school and he's coming 1511 01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:42,400 Speaker 1: to my high. School he used to like Get he 1512 01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,200 Speaker 1: used to tell me stuff watching me on film in high. 1513 01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:48,920 Speaker 1: School come To South, carolina, hey don't get. Deeper he's 1514 01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:50,320 Speaker 1: the one that high SCHOOL i was to player like 1515 01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,640 Speaker 1: nine yards that middle. Linebacker he told ME i was 1516 01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:54,040 Speaker 1: playing all. 1517 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:54,439 Speaker 2: Up he. 1518 01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:58,080 Speaker 1: Came he's, like, hey play. Deeper he, said you'll get 1519 01:10:58,080 --> 01:10:59,800 Speaker 1: To you'll get to those. Games you fast enough to 1520 01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:01,680 Speaker 1: get to those. GUYS i want to see you get 1521 01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,519 Speaker 1: all the way over. There and he d line ain't 1522 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,759 Speaker 1: holding up. Nobody he was like deeping, up deeping, up deeping. 1523 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:07,920 Speaker 1: Up and every YEAR i started backing off back there 1524 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:12,280 Speaker 1: with the safety two fifteen of the cowboy, collar the 1525 01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:17,240 Speaker 1: nine yards deep who and the last one probably my 1526 01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:22,160 Speaker 1: mom because everybody thinks my dad made me start, football 1527 01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,479 Speaker 1: but it was my. MOM i didn't. Play my mom 1528 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:26,840 Speaker 1: and dad got divorced WHEN i was. NINE i did 1529 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,120 Speaker 1: play football TILL i was, eleven and my mom and 1530 01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,520 Speaker 1: dad hated each. Other they cuts each other. Out they 1531 01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:36,120 Speaker 1: cuss each other out when they wasn't. There i'm using 1532 01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:40,400 Speaker 1: my dad in the. Summer it's. Racking i'm going to 1533 01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:42,880 Speaker 1: being at night for the school. Year her dad ain't 1534 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,760 Speaker 1: worth for damn me And tampa In, Atlanta what are 1535 01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,040 Speaker 1: you talking about my? Daddy FOR i thought neither one 1536 01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:51,439 Speaker 1: of them were for Damn but but, yeah so she 1537 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,680 Speaker 1: she's the first One Isaiah roddy like throwing your bulldogs In. 1538 01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:56,800 Speaker 1: Atlanta she was the first one put a helmet in 1539 01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,479 Speaker 1: my hand and just supported. Me she didn't miss a 1540 01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,439 Speaker 1: game UNTIL i got to the league Because atlanta. Easy 1541 01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,680 Speaker 1: right Around. Atlanta THEN i got To, Gamesville that's when 1542 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,879 Speaker 1: THE sec was. Tight now they got people In california 1543 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:08,960 Speaker 1: AND sec you used to. Be you could drive to 1544 01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,240 Speaker 1: ANY sec team From gainesville three four hours. Max she 1545 01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,160 Speaker 1: came to every single one of my, my my college. 1546 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:16,560 Speaker 1: Games she didn't miss a game TILL i got to THE. 1547 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 1: Nfl it was something. Crazy we played In miami And San. 1548 01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,599 Speaker 1: DIEGO i could have flown out there If i'd spend 1549 01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,160 Speaker 1: that damn money before THE. 1550 01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,720 Speaker 2: I ain't Got nan die my rookie. Year it was. 1551 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,760 Speaker 2: Hurting it's a good lesson to. Learn i'm glad you learned. It. 1552 01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:36,040 Speaker 2: YEAH i love that. STORY i love That we normally 1553 01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:36,400 Speaker 2: end with. 1554 01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,439 Speaker 3: That BUT i want to ask you something BECAUSE i 1555 01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 3: saw recently on The pivot episode you talked about going back, 1556 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:48,400 Speaker 3: home uh for your In, Feroh. Pennsylvania, yeah to go 1557 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,680 Speaker 3: to your where your dad had a little something for 1558 01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:52,920 Speaker 3: your Dad randy and passed, away and. 1559 01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:53,800 Speaker 2: How important he was to that. 1560 01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,479 Speaker 3: Community and you walked away and you, said you, know 1561 01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,639 Speaker 3: everybody was talking to you about all the football, stories 1562 01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,040 Speaker 3: but the one thing that really hit home with you 1563 01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,960 Speaker 3: was this little white, lady older white, lady and how 1564 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,120 Speaker 3: he treated her and how it really came back. Home 1565 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,519 Speaker 3: it was, like it's all about, humanity being a good 1566 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,960 Speaker 3: human how separated we are in this world and in 1567 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:18,320 Speaker 3: this country at times like how important that was for 1568 01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:19,640 Speaker 3: you to be able to see your father in that. 1569 01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:20,320 Speaker 2: Life maybe you. 1570 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,479 Speaker 3: Could share that with us and maybe talk to us 1571 01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:24,960 Speaker 3: about since, then how you trying to aim to live 1572 01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:25,320 Speaker 3: your own. 1573 01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:29,040 Speaker 2: Life, yeah, man you would have GOT i would have 1574 01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,519 Speaker 2: cried two months. 1575 01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:35,280 Speaker 1: AGO i would have, well, no it's, FINE i Would, 1576 01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:37,679 Speaker 1: YEAH i would have cried two months ago because it's 1577 01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:38,160 Speaker 1: still to this. 1578 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,519 Speaker 2: Day uh it's. 1579 01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,400 Speaker 1: Somebody it's crazy to this day when people, say LIKE 1580 01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,759 Speaker 1: i hear, man thank. You IF i hear that anyone 1581 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,080 Speaker 1: say those two words, TOGETHER i think about my. 1582 01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:50,920 Speaker 2: Dad and it's. 1583 01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:54,639 Speaker 1: CRAZY i never thought that that would trigger that. Thought 1584 01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,880 Speaker 1: so you think you, talking you talking with the, boys 1585 01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,680 Speaker 1: and somebody's le man you, river damn man ls you went, 1586 01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:04,400 Speaker 1: man thank, You AND i started tearing up because my 1587 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,120 Speaker 1: dad said that so, much and that was kind of 1588 01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:08,760 Speaker 1: like all those because we messed around with each. Other 1589 01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:12,280 Speaker 1: man did too. Old that's around, me daddy, man he'd 1590 01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,360 Speaker 1: always say, it so it triggered that in. Me but 1591 01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,560 Speaker 1: that's that was the, thing, MAN i is he LIKE i, 1592 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,360 Speaker 1: said he was all all, everything like three Time All, 1593 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,479 Speaker 1: American like he could play. Ball you, know he played 1594 01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:28,519 Speaker 1: back with shooting on them and with The. Dolphins then 1595 01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,439 Speaker 1: he got locked up too because he was In miami 1596 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,959 Speaker 1: in the seventies and you know he's on Cocaine cowboys 1597 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,600 Speaker 1: the movie he want Them dolphins going to the airport to. 1598 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:36,000 Speaker 2: Pick up the. 1599 01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:39,720 Speaker 1: Dope, yeah, YEAH i get it solid NOW i get it. 1600 01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:41,519 Speaker 1: Honest NOW i got two sons if they don't go to. 1601 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,559 Speaker 1: Jail we didn't already, progressed and my daddy have been locked. 1602 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:49,000 Speaker 1: Up but, uh he was just a he could play. 1603 01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,519 Speaker 1: Ball but so everybody's telling me he, played you, know 1604 01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,240 Speaker 1: tight end. Tackle they put him at, quarterback like they're 1605 01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,599 Speaker 1: telling me these football stories thinking it's. Football i'm football, 1606 01:14:56,600 --> 01:15:01,720 Speaker 1: player but those stories like. Him the story was the 1607 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,639 Speaker 1: lady came up and she was, LIKE i moved Into 1608 01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,400 Speaker 1: pharaoh in middle, school And pharaoh's a little bit he 1609 01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:10,240 Speaker 1: still still working. Town so everybody from there is, there 1610 01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,760 Speaker 1: and her dad moved in from. Somewhere she was, like 1611 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,480 Speaker 1: AND i was an outcast because everybody had their little groups. 1612 01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:19,639 Speaker 1: Already and in eighth, grade seventh eighth grade of middle, 1613 01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:22,599 Speaker 1: school she, said your dad saw THAT i was sitting 1614 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,280 Speaker 1: by myself at, lunch and he was he was born 1615 01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:26,600 Speaker 1: to raise fairl cause he was the main he was 1616 01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,120 Speaker 1: the biggest, athlete the big old we had a big 1617 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,280 Speaker 1: old black. Dude and so he was like he came 1618 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:34,759 Speaker 1: and set with, me and that that, second that. Lunchtime moving, 1619 01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:38,920 Speaker 1: FORWARD i was accepted by everybody Because, randy Big randy 1620 01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,120 Speaker 1: messed with. Me they called Him. Joe he was, like 1621 01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:44,799 Speaker 1: Big joe was my. Friend i'm everybody's. Friend he, changed 1622 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,599 Speaker 1: he changed the dijector of me of my next five 1623 01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:52,120 Speaker 1: years UNTIL i left to go to. College just that 1624 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,639 Speaker 1: with him noticing THAT i WAS i wasn't accepted until 1625 01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,360 Speaker 1: he kept sat with. Me just stories like that made me, think, like, 1626 01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,519 Speaker 1: man HE i know he's a good. Man but just 1627 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,160 Speaker 1: seeing that at that age and just being a good 1628 01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,479 Speaker 1: person and like you, say, man the world is crazy, 1629 01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:13,599 Speaker 1: now just the people questioning, themselves and then just the social, 1630 01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,160 Speaker 1: media the information that kids are, getting people are getting so, 1631 01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:19,760 Speaker 1: fast and the negativity that's out there so. Much LIKE 1632 01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:25,639 Speaker 1: i don't overlook good people LIKE i try my best 1633 01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,920 Speaker 1: to make everybody around me feel, better feel. FINE i 1634 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,879 Speaker 1: try to lighten every Room i'm, in because why wouldn't? 1635 01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:36,519 Speaker 1: You anger and hate is the. Easiest anger is the 1636 01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:40,000 Speaker 1: easiest the. MOTION i tell people that all the. Time 1637 01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,640 Speaker 1: it's the easy because NOW i can get, MAD i 1638 01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,600 Speaker 1: can't screaming, yet and NOW i control the narrative of this. 1639 01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:50,439 Speaker 1: Room IF i got pitched right, now everybody get. Quiet 1640 01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:55,160 Speaker 1: it's an easy. Emotion so that's WHAT i try to 1641 01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,720 Speaker 1: just bring positivity to, everything and knowing THAT i come from, 1642 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,400 Speaker 1: that knowing my dad's like, That seeing people that aren't, 1643 01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:03,200 Speaker 1: knowing people that aret my family, Members i'm gonna call 1644 01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,800 Speaker 1: them ANYBODY i know my family members that live in? 1645 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:09,360 Speaker 2: Turmoil you know? Them? People you call? Them how many 1646 01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:13,280 Speaker 2: people you? Know you call? Them? Hey what's? Up my? Team? 1647 01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:17,880 Speaker 1: Well you, know the dog, dies SO i gotta deal with. 1648 01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:22,120 Speaker 1: That and, man they want this mortgage every single. 1649 01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:26,479 Speaker 2: Month you, know it's just all. 1650 01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,960 Speaker 4: Bad sounded like that letter from wife That Eddie murphy, 1651 01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:30,880 Speaker 4: read and so and so the dog died and then 1652 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:31,839 Speaker 4: your two cousins. 1653 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:36,680 Speaker 1: Died, yeah and it's just all, negative everything. Negative so 1654 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,559 Speaker 1: that's WHAT i, like AND i try. TO i do 1655 01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,280 Speaker 1: a lot of charity STUFF i, do LIKE i, said, 1656 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:43,559 Speaker 1: honestly LIKE i joke about, it but EVERYTHING i do 1657 01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,760 Speaker 1: is for. Kids Every boys And Girls, Club turkey, Giveaways 1658 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,439 Speaker 1: christmas Toward. Drive EVERYTHING i do it for kids because 1659 01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:54,160 Speaker 1: they're Not they're in that situation because somebody. ELSE i 1660 01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,880 Speaker 1: want to help them and let them know somebody cares about. 1661 01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,720 Speaker 1: Them because whatever situation they're, in that's the failure of 1662 01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,519 Speaker 1: a grown. Person grown, person failure is a failure of. 1663 01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,960 Speaker 1: You so you just need to tighten. 1664 01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:08,160 Speaker 2: Up but the. 1665 01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,719 Speaker 1: KIDS i try to give that and just help people 1666 01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,120 Speaker 1: out and push people because that's all we got at the, end, 1667 01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:18,040 Speaker 1: man we all you, know every folks got, money folks got, 1668 01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:22,040 Speaker 1: love folks got you, know, success whatever you, what however 1669 01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:25,800 Speaker 1: you see, success but when it's said and, done you 1670 01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,599 Speaker 1: never seen the Damn brinks truck behind. 1671 01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:32,679 Speaker 2: Hers you can't take it with. You but the people 1672 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:33,400 Speaker 2: that are good. 1673 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:37,920 Speaker 1: Humans, Man my dad was dead and gone and ALL 1674 01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,599 Speaker 1: i heard was good stories about. Them When i'm dead and, gone, 1675 01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:44,000 Speaker 1: Someday i'm gonna make sure that, everybody even in this, 1676 01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:48,760 Speaker 1: room y'all got a, staff AND i want them to 1677 01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,360 Speaker 1: go back to wherever head they're. From The australian girls 1678 01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,120 Speaker 1: From New. YORK i know that BECAUSE i was talking to. 1679 01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:55,840 Speaker 1: It because, hell she came to get me from the parket, like, 1680 01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:56,280 Speaker 1: hey how you? 1681 01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:56,840 Speaker 2: Doing where you? 1682 01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,360 Speaker 1: From and she talked About Veggie, mike which is. Disgusting 1683 01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:03,680 Speaker 1: don't try to but like, That, LIKE i want everybody 1684 01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,120 Speaker 1: to ever met me for ten seconds if my name 1685 01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,360 Speaker 1: is brought up to be, like, Oh Jenny, Crowd oh, 1686 01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:11,920 Speaker 1: man he's a great. Dude he's a good. Guy he 1687 01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,559 Speaker 1: hadn't read and talked to. ME i was a production. 1688 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:18,080 Speaker 1: Assistant but he, said talked to, me had a good. 1689 01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:18,400 Speaker 2: Time you. 1690 01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:20,559 Speaker 1: Know that's not hurting, me that's not doing that's not 1691 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,400 Speaker 1: that concing me at. All though it takes something to be, 1692 01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:27,040 Speaker 1: kind takes nothing to just be nice and be. Kind 1693 01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,280 Speaker 1: and the people that walk around athletes do. It if 1694 01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,160 Speaker 1: you don't you know this, Thing, oh this guy's a butt. 1695 01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,920 Speaker 1: White this guy's a butt. White if you find somebody 1696 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:35,559 Speaker 1: that called me a butt. White you need to ask 1697 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,960 Speaker 1: them what did you do to? Him because there's no 1698 01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:42,400 Speaker 1: way he just flat out cussed you. Out it might 1699 01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:43,920 Speaker 1: be one of the PEOPLE i beat up in. College 1700 01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:45,400 Speaker 1: if you find a due the. City don't like me 1701 01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,400 Speaker 1: BECAUSE i broke a dude's. Y'ALL i wouldn't like me 1702 01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:51,200 Speaker 1: IF i broke my. Jaw BUT i do try to 1703 01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,320 Speaker 1: bring happiness and joy to everyone around. Me AND i 1704 01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,080 Speaker 1: think if the world tried to do, that and this 1705 01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,719 Speaker 1: sounded like a you, know a A Christmas carol, story 1706 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,880 Speaker 1: if everybody ty do, that, bro it'd be a better. 1707 01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:06,160 Speaker 1: Place it'd be less negativity and less. Hate but there's 1708 01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:10,479 Speaker 1: a lot of, factors not politically getting, there a lot 1709 01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:14,000 Speaker 1: of factors in this world that make people go to other. 1710 01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:18,200 Speaker 3: Direction, yeah, well, DUDE i appreciate, it. MAN i love your. 1711 01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:22,040 Speaker 3: Energy appreciate you're a special human, being the real. TALK 1712 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,320 Speaker 3: i love you guys On pivot because you GOT, rc WHO'S. 1713 01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:28,719 Speaker 3: Rc then you got, you who's nothing but the outside 1714 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:32,960 Speaker 3: humorous factor and given the just to love the high by. 1715 01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:37,000 Speaker 3: Vibrations and you got FRED t who brings the emotional, 1716 01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,599 Speaker 3: aspect who may cry sometimes a serious. 1717 01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:43,400 Speaker 2: One, yeah, yeah you, know it's just. Awesome. Man he talks. Slow, 1718 01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,679 Speaker 2: YEAH i appreciate, you, man you, know talk a little. 1719 01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:48,240 Speaker 2: SLOW i also appreciate. 1720 01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,240 Speaker 3: You my brother met you At Kansas city one time 1721 01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:54,240 Speaker 3: at a bar at THE Nfl draft and he said 1722 01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,160 Speaker 3: you were the most, nicest coolest person. 1723 01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:59,439 Speaker 2: Ever so you continue to be, yourself, Man so appreciate. 1724 01:20:59,479 --> 01:20:59,760 Speaker 2: It man for. 1725 01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,400 Speaker 1: Real, man all love to. Y'all for. SURE i watch. 1726 01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,800 Speaker 1: YOU i watch it ON. Tv he was over that, 1727 01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,439 Speaker 1: chasing chasing is around drug. 1728 01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:10,120 Speaker 2: Houses. House thank you so much for your for your, service, 1729 01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:11,080 Speaker 2: sir you're your. 1730 01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:14,000 Speaker 1: Welcome sleep in the, safe. Y'all boys on the, FIELD 1731 01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:17,320 Speaker 1: i was watching y'all he was playing. TOGETHER yea might 1732 01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:20,400 Speaker 1: not have known. Me, yeah definitely a little light skinned 1733 01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,760 Speaker 1: boy and, man but no man and just the same 1734 01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:23,160 Speaker 1: thing were talking. 1735 01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:27,800 Speaker 2: About man like. This it's a small the in. 1736 01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:32,639 Speaker 1: It on the field is a small. Fraternity act too 1737 01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:37,600 Speaker 1: is a smaller. Fraternity, absolutely and to be a part of, 1738 01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:42,600 Speaker 1: it you always you always recognize THE i take that 1739 01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,960 Speaker 1: when people have dreads you don't have to know. Them 1740 01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,000 Speaker 1: but if you see somebody with, dreads men a, woman 1741 01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:51,640 Speaker 1: you always nod to. Him it's an un it's an unspoken. 1742 01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,519 Speaker 1: Thing dreads is a. Fraternity it's weird to. ME i 1743 01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,120 Speaker 1: had to learn WHEN i locked. Up when you see 1744 01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,360 Speaker 1: an ex player doing their thing and you see them 1745 01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,040 Speaker 1: out their, grounding see him just not even making money 1746 01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:06,519 Speaker 1: or being. FAMOUS i see h player out married with 1747 01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:10,160 Speaker 1: a beautiful family eating. Dinner i'm gonna give him that, nod, 1748 01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:13,160 Speaker 1: Bro and he knows What i'm. Saying i'm not just saying, Hi, 1749 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:18,360 Speaker 1: BRO i got. You i'm doing the. Same we're still doing. 1750 01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,040 Speaker 1: It SO i see, You, YEAH i see. YOU i 1751 01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:24,760 Speaker 1: see what you're. Doing you know What i'm. SAYING i 1752 01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:28,200 Speaker 1: see that you understand. THIS i see that you figured it, 1753 01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:30,680 Speaker 1: out AND i respect you for it because we know 1754 01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:32,720 Speaker 1: the other. Side we all know the other, side but 1755 01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:33,840 Speaker 1: all respect. 1756 01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:34,160 Speaker 2: Y'all. 1757 01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:36,479 Speaker 1: MAN i appreciate y'all having me on this. Platform WHEN 1758 01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:38,840 Speaker 1: i got the, TEXT i was, like, REALLY i got 1759 01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:39,800 Speaker 1: to work earlier days for. 1760 01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:40,120 Speaker 2: Y'all. 1761 01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:45,599 Speaker 3: Bro appreciate a lit damn doubt all, Right, man appreciate it. Always, 1762 01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,360 Speaker 3: Man thank you chatting for checking in with. 1763 01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:47,640 Speaker 2: Us. 1764 01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:50,400 Speaker 3: Man you're awesome and probably the best pre draft Store. 1765 01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:52,759 Speaker 2: I've ever heard in my. 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