1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Happy Saturday. Recently, we had an episode about the trials 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: of non human animals that were carried out in parts 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: of medieval and early modern Europe, and we talked about 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: some parallels with the witch trials that were taking place 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: in some of the same places during some of the 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: same times. We thought we would have one of our 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: episodes on some of those witch trials as a Saturday 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: Classic today. This episode is about the witch trials that 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: took place in Varda in northern Norway in the seventeenth century. 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: It originally came out on October ninth, twenty sixteen. Welcome 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production of iHeartRadio. Hello, 12 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Holly Fryme and I'm 13 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: Tracy B. Wilson, and we are still in the Halloween season, 14 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: which makes me happy. In my dark little Heart and 15 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: I accident started a witch theme, but that's not going 16 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: to last. Just the two witch episodes this one and 17 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: the Bell Witch, and the Bell Witch really doesn't even 18 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: count in that regard. But today's episode is legitimately about 19 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: witch trials and actual accusations of witchcraft, and Europe's witchcraft 20 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: trials spanned three centuries from roughly fourteen fifty to seventeen fifty, 21 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: but it was really during the late sixteenth and seventeenth 22 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: centuries that the practice of trying people as witches was 23 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: most fervent, and from about fifteen seventy to sixteen eighty. 24 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: It's estimated, and this is a pretty wide gap of 25 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: where the estimate falls, that between forty thousand and sixty 26 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: thousand people across Europe were tried for sorcery of some form, 27 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: and most of them were found guilty and put to death. 28 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: I've seen the fraction of like approximately two thirds, but 29 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: it's hard because there wasn't great record keeping to identify 30 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: exactly how many lost their lives because of this and 31 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: one particular town. This is an episode heavy in Norwegian words, 32 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: which I have no doubt I will butcher. Yeah, even 33 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: even having looked at pronunciations for them, a lot of 34 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: the phonemes are not used in English, and so replicating them, yeah, 35 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: it's a stretch. So no upfront that we will probably 36 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: butcher it, and we mean no disrespect to the Norwegian language. 37 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: Our mouths just will not do it. So we're going 38 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: to talk about Varda, which is a fishing village. It 39 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: was known as Norway's witch capital, and it was the 40 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: site of a long series of quite brutal inquests, and 41 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: there were generally two different kinds of witchcraft trials in 42 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: Norway through this time period. There were isolated trials where 43 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: one person was brought before the court and tried for sorcery, 44 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: like just one person at a time would pop up 45 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: and seem suspicious, and then there were panics, groups of 46 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: people were tried in rapid succession in a very short 47 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: period of time. And whereas the isolated trials had more 48 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: to do with an individual person practicing witchcraft or some 49 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: sort of sorcery, these panics were driven by the idea 50 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: that demons were involved, usually and that groups of witches 51 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: were consorting with the devil. So today we're going to 52 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: talk about two of the panics that took place in Varda, Norway, 53 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: And first we're going to give you a little bit 54 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: of geographical context about the area. So Varda sits in 55 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: Finnmark County, is Norway's only town that's in the Arctic 56 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: climate zone and offers views of the Norwegian Russian Arctic. 57 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: It's a really small coastal village. There are fewer than 58 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: twenty five hundred inhabitants. It's Northern Norway's oldest town, with 59 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: settlements dating back as far as nine thousand years and 60 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: in the thirteen hundreds both a church and varda fortress 61 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: were built there and the town sort of grew up 62 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: around primarily the fortress. And despite the brutal weather, the 63 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: fishing along the coast of Finmark was plentiful and the 64 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: location offered really really lucrative trade opportunities even today. I mean, 65 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: this is remote. Its relative isolation is one of the 66 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: reasons that Finmark's witch trials were so expedient. Copenhagen, which 67 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: under Danish rule was Norway's capital, was far enough away 68 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: that the local authorities of Finmark basically got to act independently. 69 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: There was such a big geographical distance from any higher 70 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: authority that the decisions to execute witches were basically made 71 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: with total conviction, and then the sentences were carried out 72 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: without hesitation. There was no like Norwegian version of the 73 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: Department of Justice overseeing the witch trial situation in Finnmark correct, 74 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: but the directives to abecute witches came from very high 75 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: because during some of this time from fifteen eighty eight 76 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: to sixteen forty eight, the ruler of the Danish Norwegian 77 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: Kingdom was King Christian Force, and he had an agenda 78 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: when it came to witches. Yeah, I should say there 79 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: that like, even if there had been an equivalent of 80 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: the Justice department overseeing the witch trial situation, it would 81 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: not have had the effect of preventing the execution of witches. 82 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: And the officials of the crown at this time, who 83 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: served under Christian the Force, were basically charged with the 84 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: task of ridding the country of witches, and they were 85 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: very committed to this job. So it's not surprising that 86 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: there was a level of comfort in acting with this 87 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: complete authority. In cases of witchcraft at the local level. 88 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: From the late sixteenth century into the seventeenth century, Vardo, 89 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: which is a small village, as we said, stage one 90 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: hundred and forty different trials and in ninety one documented 91 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: cases the accused was found guilty and put to death 92 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: either by burning or by torture. Most of these happened 93 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: in clusters where many people were prosecuted over very short 94 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: periods of time, and the numbers here get really interesting 95 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: because during the time of these witch hunts, less than 96 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: one percent of Norway's population lived in the Finmark area 97 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: where these trials took place, but this remote fishing community 98 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: was home to thirty one percent of the witch executions 99 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: in Norway, so disproportionately large numbers of people were being 100 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: charged and punished by death for being witches. In Finmark, 101 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: there were one hundred eleven women and twenty four men 102 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: accused of sorcery. Of the ninety one put to death, 103 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: seventy seven where women and fourteen were men. And the 104 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 1: Sami people, which is an indigenous Scandinavian culture which still 105 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: exists today, were some of the first to be targeted 106 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: in this witch panic. They had been the first known 107 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: people to live in Finmark, but as that area colonized, 108 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: they became the minority. Approximately eighty percent of those accused 109 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: of which craft and Fenmark were in Norwegian, twenty percent 110 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: were Sami. When considering gender, though these numbers skew in 111 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: a totally different way. Of the twenty four men who 112 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: were accused of witchcraft in the area, sixteen were from 113 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: the Sami people. At least thirteen of those sixteen were 114 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: found guilty and executed, and that disparity in proportions is 115 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: likely due, according to historian live Helene Willielmson, who is 116 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: kind of an expert on this area of study, to 117 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: the fact that Sami men in particular had a reputation 118 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: for sorcery throughout Europe, and this is linked probably to 119 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: some of their cultural practices. For example, they used this 120 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: they would do this ritual where they used rune drums 121 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: where they were basically kind of doing chants, and people went, oh, 122 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: that must be evil. It wasn't, It's just part of 123 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: their culture. And in sixteen oh nine, King Christian the 124 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: Force wrote a letter to his district governors that they 125 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: should persecute Sami sorcerers without mercy, and that really catalyzed 126 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: fin Mark's witch hunting phase. So while the trials of 127 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: the seventeenth century might have primarily affected Norwegian women, it 128 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: does appear that bias against the Sami people really started things. 129 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: In the early sixteen hundreds, Sami were targeted more frequently, 130 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: and then the trials transitioned to focus on the women 131 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: of Fenmark. And part of the mindset that led to 132 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: this witch panic was the idea common in the sixteenth 133 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: and seventeenth centuries that the far north of the European continent, 134 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: including the coast of Norway, was sort of home to 135 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: the devil. This idea appears to have been born of 136 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: a tangle of ideologies and fears. For one, although Christianity 137 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: had spread throughout Europe, there were still people, including those 138 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: in the northern fringes, who didn't practice it, which drew 139 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: a lot of suspicion from the Church. Additionally, this was 140 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: and still is a place where the climate can be 141 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: incredibly punishing, and that stormy nature was attributed to sorcery. 142 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: The icy, cold winds from the north were believed to 143 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: originate at the devil's home and to be a conveyance 144 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: of the devil's will of sorcery and of evil spirits, 145 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: and these spirits, of course, specialized in nautical dark magic. 146 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: These were not just locally held ideas. Many areas of Europe, 147 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,599 Speaker 1: including France, England, Sweden, Germany and Scotland, were homes of 148 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: people who believed that Norway was virtually riddled with witches, 149 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: and the Mountain of Dolmen, which sat between two fishing villages, 150 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: was believed to be the site of the entrance to 151 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: a tunnel that went directly to Hell, and a cave 152 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: within that mountain was reportedly the genesis point for various 153 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: demons who then spread from there throughout the European continent. 154 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: So we're about to get into these panics, but first 155 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: we're going to pause for a quick word from one 156 00:09:47,400 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: of our sponsors. So to Finnmark in the sixteen twenties, 157 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: As with any of history's witchcraft persecution episodes, sorcery was 158 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: often the scapegoat for difficult or tragic events that happened 159 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: in any community, and Finnmark experienced a really terrible storm 160 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: one Christmas early on in the seventeenth century. So the 161 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: unexpected sixteen seventeen Christmas Eve storm hit when sixteen boats 162 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: from Varda and seven boats from Kyburg. I'm sure I'm 163 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: saying that terribly wrong, so I apologize. We're all at 164 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: sea and ten of those boats capsized and forty fishermen 165 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: were drowned. Struggling to cope with the loss of so 166 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: many of the village's men, at one time, members of 167 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: the community started to point to witchcraft is the cause 168 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: of this tragedy. The population of both villages combined was 169 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: less than three hundred people, so forty deaths really did 170 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: have a massive impact on the community, and this incident 171 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: eventually catalyzed a piece of legist that allowed for mass prosecutions, 172 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 1: specifically in the charge of witchcraft. And it actually took 173 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: a long time to enact that law and get it 174 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: up and running. While it was first introduced in October 175 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen, it really wasn't enforced until sixteen twenty. This 176 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: ability meant that there was one of those instances where 177 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people, both men and women, faced charges 178 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: of witchcraft and were found guilty. So in January of 179 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: sixteen twenty one, during the anti sorcery proceedings, a woman 180 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: appeared at the trials and claimed that witches had indeed 181 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: tied knots in the fishing nets and cast spells on them. 182 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: Her name was Elson Knute's daughter, and she detailed how 183 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 1: a group of witches had tied three knots in a 184 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: piece of string, They had cursed the knots and then 185 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: spit on them, and then as those knots were untied, 186 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: that curse was activated and the sea consequently claimed the 187 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: lives of those fishermen. She herself was accused of witchcraft 188 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: and was thrown into the sea to see if she floated. 189 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: This is all too common and pretty foolish practice. The 190 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: thinking was that the water, which was believed to be 191 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: a sacred element, would repel evil, which was why witches floated. 192 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: Elsa floated, dooming herself to a guilty verdict, and then 193 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: she was put to death. In February of sixteen twenty one, 194 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: another woman, on Lar's daughter testified before the court, and 195 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: initially she refused to speak, and she was, like Elsa, 196 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: thrown into the sea for the water test. But after 197 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: this test began, she readily confessed, and this was framed 198 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: at the time as the water test having released her 199 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: from the devil's spell. She claimed that when she had 200 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: been questioned earlier, the devil had silenced her tongue, and 201 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: when she did speak, she said that she had met 202 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: with the devil on Christmas Eve of sixteen seventeen. She 203 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: went on to say that she had that evening flown 204 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: through the air alongside the devil, and that he had 205 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: taken her from one village to another where a total 206 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: of forty witches had gathered to celebrate the Sabbath. After 207 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: these events, she went back to her home. Mari Jorgan's 208 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: daughter also testified, and she said that the devil had 209 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: visited her on Christmas Eve and asked if she would 210 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: serve him, and then took her to the home of 211 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: Kirsty Soren's daughter. Kirsty, according to Mary's testimony, cast a 212 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: spell on her that transformed her into a raven, enabling 213 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: her to quickly make the journey to the gathering where 214 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: the not curse was performed. Marie gave added information that 215 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: a similar Christmas Eve sabbath had happened in the time 216 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: between the sixteen seventeen tragedy and the sixteen twenty one trials. 217 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: On Christmas Eve, sixteen twenty and Kirsty Soren's daughter figured 218 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 1: prominently in a lot of the testimony. She was characterized 219 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: by others on trial as the leader of the group, 220 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: and she was also one of the last women who 221 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: testified in the sixteen twenty one trials, and she had 222 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: witnessed how things had played out for those that had 223 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: faced the court before her. Under threat of torture, she 224 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,119 Speaker 1: confirmed what the other women had said about their rituals, 225 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: dooming herself to be burned at the stake. During her 226 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: court appearance, Kirsty named two men who had also participated 227 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: in the rituals while men were tried for witchcraft in 228 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: Norway during all this time, neither of the men that 229 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: she named were formally accused. But if legal records of 230 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: later trials are taken at face value, because there are 231 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: records of all of these proceedings that are apparently pretty 232 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: well maintained, they're in pretty good shape. But they are 233 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: they're literally like on file there in Norway, so they're 234 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: not online or anything, but they basically lay out as 235 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: though this is a legal document. These are legal proceedings 236 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: all of these things that we're talking about today. So 237 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: there is a record of all of these trials, and 238 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: if they are taken at face value, there were still 239 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: practicing witches in Finnmark for decades after the many deaths 240 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: of the sixteen twenty one trials, and while more than 241 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: ten women were put to death in sixteen twenty one, 242 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: a series of trials and sixteen sixties would claim even 243 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: more lives. In late sixteen sixty two, more than thirty 244 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: were accused of sorcery in a series of trials that 245 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: played out into sixteen sixty three. Among the accused were 246 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: not just adult women, but also young girls under the 247 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: age of twelve, and most of the testimonies in this 248 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: case were confessions that were tortured out of women and 249 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: threatened out of children who said that they had met 250 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: and celebrated with the devil at Domen, which we mentioned earlier. 251 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: During the trials, several of the accused said that they 252 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: had traveled Doman's pathway to Hell and that it was 253 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: a long black valley with a boiling lake at the bottom. 254 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: And one of the children victimized in these trials was 255 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: Ingeborg Iver's daughter, who was found guilty of sorcery because 256 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: of her association with two women and another girl. And 257 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: there Christmas Eve sixteen sixty two activities, so that day 258 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: Iver's daughter and a woman named Solvi, Nil's daughter were 259 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: actually in custody for suspected witchcraft. They were in prison 260 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: at Vardahu's fortress, but according to testimony given before the court, 261 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: they turned into cats, escaped the fortress and met with 262 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: the devil outside the gates, and then the devil took 263 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: them to one of these witch meetings, and it's there 264 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: that they met the other woman and girl that were 265 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: involved in this particular accusation in the testimony, and after 266 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: much carousing and celebrating, the devil then returned them to 267 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: the fortress. Ingeborg had the unhappy distinction of being the 268 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: first child accused of witchcraft and fenmark when she appeared 269 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: at her trial on January twenty sixth, sixteen sixty three. 270 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: Her exact age is unknown, but she was described in 271 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: court records as a little girl. Her mother had already 272 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: been burned for witchcraft, and she had said that her 273 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: mother taught her witchcraft by giving her a tainted bowl 274 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: of milk. There was this perception at the time that 275 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: witchcraft was conveyed often through tainted food or drink, and 276 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: that's how you passed it on from one generation to 277 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: the next. And then the devil, after she had had 278 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: this tainted milk, the devil was conjured by her mother 279 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: in the form of a black dog, and that dog 280 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: bit her repeatedly. And this same sort of narrative was 281 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: described by the other five girls as well, being given 282 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: like a tainted usually milk, and then this black dog 283 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: devil coming and sort of attacking them as a form 284 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: of trial. And while to the court at the time 285 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: this may have indicated truthfulness, each girl's testimony validated what 286 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: had come before because they were pretty consistent, but it 287 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: also suggests that perhaps they had simply heard the same 288 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: tail over and over from somewhere, and we're going to 289 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: get to a possible source of that tale in just 290 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: a moment. We're also going to go into a bit 291 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: more detail about the Vardajas Fortress than some of the 292 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: people who were held there as captives. But before we do, 293 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: we are going to stop one more time for a 294 00:17:50,600 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: very brief sponsor break. So that holding situation that we 295 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: mentioned before, the break in Vardahus Fortress, which you will 296 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: also sometimes see translated as Vardajus Castle, was where most 297 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: of the torture used to illicit confessions took place, and 298 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: there was this single room called the Witch's Hole where 299 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: sort of these torturous events happened. And while the use 300 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: of torture was technically illegal before a sentence was passed 301 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: on a prisoner, it was still used both before the 302 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: sentence to gain confessions and then after sentencing there would 303 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: be more torture to produce names of accomplices. One of 304 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: the interesting factors in this panic is the influence of 305 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: two people, a husband and a wife, on the confessions 306 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: of the accused. This pair, Ambrosius Rhodius and Frieder's daughter Rosius, 307 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: had been imprisoned near modern day Oslo before being moved 308 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: to Vardajus Fortress. Ambrosius was an astrologer and a physician 309 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: who was considered politically dangerous after having made some accurate 310 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: predictions about military conflicts, and his wife Anne, who was 311 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: the granddaughter of King Frederick the second, had some sort 312 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: of serious argument with political figures in their hometown. So yeah, 313 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: they were moved to Vardijas because they were considered basically 314 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: enemies of the state at that point, and because the 315 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: fortress was kind of crowded in the sixteen sixties panic. 316 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: At least one of the children imprisoned there shared quarters 317 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: with the Rodeus couple, and additionally, Anne had a key 318 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: to the witch's whole, and it's documented that Anne spoke 319 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: with both the women and girls who were being held 320 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: in the fortress awaiting trial, and that she talked at 321 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: length with them about demonology and that she encouraged their confessions. 322 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: On the up side, all six of the little girls 323 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: involved in the sixteen sixty two to sixteen sixty three 324 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: panic were acquitted on the grounds that they were too 325 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: young to be held accountable. For their actions and that 326 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: they had undoubtedly been influenced by the adult witches around them. 327 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: And over the course of the sixteen sixty series of 328 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: accusation and trials, we mentioned that thirty people had been accused, 329 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: two women died while being tortured for information before they 330 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: could be sentenced, and twenty others were sentenced, found guilty 331 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: and burned at the stake. In twenty eleven, the country 332 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: of Norway made a significant gesture of apology and recognition 333 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: of the ninety one people known to have been executed 334 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: for witchcraft. Peter Zumthor, an architect from Switzerland, and Louis Bourgeois, 335 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: a French American artist, works together to design a memorial 336 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: for the lives that were lost. So this stunesset memorial 337 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: sits on a piece of remote coastline on the Barren Sea, 338 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: believed to be the site of many of the executions 339 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: and the architect's contribution to the work, which is titled 340 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: Memory Hall, looks like one hundred and fifty eight yard 341 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: or one hundred and forty five meter long corridors built 342 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: at the edge of the sea, but instead of exterior walls, 343 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: it has an open crosshatched frame. That frame, which is 344 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: made of pine, supports a tunnel like silk cocoon, and 345 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: within the fabric tunnel is a hallway with oak floors. 346 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: Within the interior are ninety one lamps, and each of 347 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: them illuminates a window that represents one of the executed 348 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: and an engraving dedicated to one of the people killed 349 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: for witchcraft, including the testimony that was used against them. 350 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: The second part of the memorial, which can be entered 351 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: by visitors once they have passed through that long type 352 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: memorial corridor, is Bourgeoise creation, and it's entitled The Damn, 353 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: the Possessed and the Beloved. And this element is a 354 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: black glass room and inside there is a chair in 355 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: the center that burns continuously and there are three mirrors 356 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: mounted above it to create the illusion of the space 357 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: being consumed in fire. So it's kind of a unique thing. 358 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: I don't know of many other countries that have done 359 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: anything like this. It's quite beautiful. There's some really good 360 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: pictures online and we'll have links to those in the 361 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: show notes. But it's an interesting testament to how things 362 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: have changed in their efforts to kind of they obviously 363 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: cannot fix what has gone before. But to at least 364 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: acknowledge the wrongs that were done and how misguided the 365 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: attempts to rid the country of evil through witchcraft trials were. 366 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: So that's the Varta witch trials. Oh, which trials. Like 367 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: people have such a fascination with witch trials, but they're depressing. 368 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: They're so depressing they are It breaks my heart if 369 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: you read about you know, these little girls, Yeah, children 370 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: that were being forced to testify, sometimes alongside their mothers 371 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: and sometimes after their mothers had already been killed. And 372 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: there's such brutality to it and it's rough. Thanks so 373 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: much for joining us on this Saturday. 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