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Speaker 3: Good morning, and welcome to the No Dumps Podcast on

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Speaker 3: the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, May eighth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: I'm jay E Skeeds here in the Classic Factory and

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Speaker 4: We're called them cold opens, usually because they're good. I

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Speaker 3: Rudy Gobert. We got Jamal Murray, update got an unfortunate

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Speaker 3: had some games on last night. They were blowouts, nearly

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Speaker 3: had identical scores when you look at them. But let's

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Speaker 3: start with the second game. Oklahoma City still unbeaten here

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Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty four NBA Playoffs. They swept the

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Speaker 3: Mavericks one seventeen ninety five in game one of this

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Speaker 4: Those were too many boards that the MAVs allowed, sixteen

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was as simple as sitting Josh Giddy down

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Speaker 2: The thunder Stars were just better than the Maverick Stars

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Speaker 2: sounds like the Arsenio Hall Show in here, which was

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Speaker 3: Everybody barking yeah, because he hit the two threes. He

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Speaker 4: It is true that the officiating was strange. It looked

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Speaker 4: They were allowing everything to go in that game. Well

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Speaker 2: So technical.

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Speaker 4: So I do understand why people were upset that, Wow,

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Speaker 3: Well. Yeah, part of that probably this lingering the issue,

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Speaker 3: no doubt. The other part lou Dort all over you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he had a bad game, Lucas six and nineteen.

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Speaker 3: He only scored nineteen points, which is like nothing for

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Speaker 3: and those five turnovers that he had in the game too.

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Speaker 3: Three of them were just like bad, like lab attempts

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Speaker 3: I would not ever want to step into the Dortuer chamber.

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Speaker 3: He said after the game, TK like, let's I don't

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Speaker 3: think it's gonna get better. No, maybe in the off

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Speaker 3: season it will. But they play every other play now too, that's.

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Speaker 2: Right, So that's bad. But the MAVs defense looked the

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Speaker 2: Super impressive. The Gafford thing, to me is such a

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Speaker 2: played hard. He played hard, but too much Gafford, Yes,

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Speaker 2: That's the game plan. Every time they run a pick

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Speaker 2: it off. Gafford made some nice plays, but only five

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Speaker 2: We'll see if Luca can do it. I thought he

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Speaker 2: got good shots, he just missed. I mean, Dort was

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Speaker 2: It's just a matter of being healthy enough to do

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Speaker 4: There is a dud, but then it's followed by a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he has to hit some three pointers here at

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Speaker 3: some point. Though he was one of eight in this game.

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Speaker 3: He's down to twenty two point seven percent from deep

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Speaker 4: He literally says it every time anybody asked him about it.

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Speaker 4: He said it to Jared Greenberg, my knees don't feel good. Now,

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Speaker 4: maybe that's a little gamesmanship to say, hey, okay see,

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Speaker 4: But he's also you know, he he does that throughout

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Speaker 4: guarding him, was fighting extremely hard and lou Dort. There's

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Speaker 4: It hits his shin and he gets down and goes

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Speaker 3: That was the one that went the other way for Jill.

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Speaker 4: Yeahub a kickball. I wasn't a kickball. It's an interesting one.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that one gets everybody going at the pickup runs

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't hit a foot, so it's technically not

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Speaker 3: like ten three point attempts per game. So he just

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Speaker 3: he can't he can't get one to drop. In fact,

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Speaker 3: he got one to drop early in this game. Did

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Speaker 3: he's like, oh, oh god, I hit one and you're like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 3: here we go. But then didn't hit one from there.

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Speaker 3: He's really struggling. Let's talk about the thunder reserves. So

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Speaker 3: Giddy going to the bench and these runs happening for OKCE.

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Speaker 3: The reserves accounted for thirty six percent of the Thunders

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Speaker 3: that floor chipping in sixteen points. Isaiah, Joe, where did

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Speaker 3: Wallace hit two threes while doing his like, you know,

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Speaker 3: ninety four feet of defense on on a Kyrie or

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Speaker 3: played poorly for O Case Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did

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Speaker 2: That was close streak almost He's gonna get one.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I'm talking about the main players. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were incredible. They completely outplayed the MAVs bench.

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Speaker 2: this one. Gafford was certainly the better big man obviously,

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Speaker 2: No Maxi Kleiba Green played okay. I thought they're gonna

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Speaker 2: it just kept happening and happening. This game was such

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Speaker 2: just thinking if you play for the Thunder, either your

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Speaker 2: very very cool name. Cason Wallace, Aaron Wiggins, ken Rich Williams,

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Speaker 2: just Alexander, chet Holmegrin, lou Dort, Isaiah, Joe, the W's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you've got Gordon straight up.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking the fourth.

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Speaker 3: He waved the white flag with like it was like

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Speaker 4: Hmm. Yeah. I wonder if they cut lou gens Dort's

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Speaker 4: name to lou Dort just to make it a little

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Speaker 4: extra cooler. He's always compiled loud Dort. That's just a

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Speaker 4: stupid Joe. I do think Aaron Wiggins was awesome. I

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Speaker 4: He back doored Luca one time for a cut.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he never stops moving. You've got to steal on

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Speaker 4: lot more of Gordon Hayward's minutes. He plays. He plays

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Speaker 4: played extremely well. They did it all, man, they did

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Speaker 4: it all. They just felt good. It looked like such

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Speaker 3: Well, it's not really fair that they're the youngest team

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Speaker 2: They played like four games in twenty two days.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. It's like ridiculous goodness. So they

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Speaker 3: When it got into one, you're like, okay, again, Kyrie's

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Speaker 3: This guy's like mister second half. But then boom, just

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Speaker 3: feeling good. So the Mavericks are now zero to five

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Speaker 3: you maybe are not panicking yet. If you're Dallas, you

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Speaker 3: obviously want to get that split. Come what Friday night

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Speaker 3: Game two, probably the shots will fall, but he has

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Speaker 3: to be You're not gonna win games when he's going

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Speaker 2: They can bind for thirty nine points. Yeah, that's not enough.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they rely on Luca and Kyrie. They don't have

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Speaker 4: Shane Jalen, Okay, they look great. But Chet Holmgren was

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Speaker 4: He just he just looked great with his turnarounds, he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nineteen points, seven boards, three blocks for Chet. You

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Speaker 3: Then he screamed down the middle, got the pass. He

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Speaker 3: another big put back dunk, gets the crowd going bonkers

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Speaker 4: A couple of awesome blocks from Oka.

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Speaker 2: You were s Jones Junior had a nice couple of dunks.

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Speaker 2: backup coffee alle oop lobbed about the dotted line. I

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Speaker 2: just took a dribble and dunked it. That was a

430
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Speaker 2: weird seem like got baseball cutoff man.

431
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they refereeing I didn't like At first. I

432
00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,639
Speaker 4: saw a little Josh Green just grabbing the jersey of

433
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Speaker 4: someone and then calling that a foul. Didn't like that.

434
00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,720
Speaker 4: But then I saw Josh Green really body check shake

435
00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,560
Speaker 4: Gillis Alexander on two consecutive spots where Shay was backing

436
00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,800
Speaker 4: him up a little bit, so Joshin didn't take it

437
00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,960
Speaker 4: into chess. He took it in the shoulder with a boom.

438
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,600
Speaker 4: I made a body check one, body check two. Okay,

439
00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,240
Speaker 4: we got to call that NFL. That can go. On

440
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Speaker 4: Sports Science, Drey tweeted a great clip of the Kevin

441
00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,080
Speaker 4: Love running into a sumo wrestler like that. That's literally

442
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,800
Speaker 4: what Josh Green did to shake Gillis Alexander twice on

443
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,920
Speaker 4: the same possession. It was a hard hit. So I

444
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,960
Speaker 4: wrote down every sports science clip that could have been

445
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Speaker 4: made from last night. We saw Dane Gafford his head

446
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,880
Speaker 4: hitting the cushion on the bottom of the backboard after

447
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,879
Speaker 4: blocking Jalen Williams. Oh that was awesome. The Jalen Williams

448
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 4: laying off the top corner of the basket. I mean,

449
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Speaker 4: that's far you could. You know, I can see the

450
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Speaker 4: the image of pulling out the meter stick or the

451
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Speaker 4: tape measure how far that was from the rim. That

452
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 4: was a really far land. The home grind block on

453
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Speaker 4: Kyrie's left handed push shot. It ain't all that sexy

454
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Speaker 4: for sports science, but to see a Kyrie left handed

455
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Speaker 4: pushot from the baseline like ten feet away and Chet

456
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 4: Holmgren just blocking it look cool. The dort kickball that

457
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Speaker 4: wasn't a kickball. I don't know. There's something there that's

458
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Speaker 4: a probably about it. I got a contested drive top right,

459
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Speaker 4: and oh no, that's the Jalen Williams. Anyways, that's about it.

460
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Speaker 2: I'd may be throwing Mark Dagnaut's squinting now that you

461
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Speaker 2: mentioned you cannot, I cannot see it.

462
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Speaker 3: Man skuy squints more than tre hermy man, you can't

463
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Speaker 3: unsee it though you cannot see it, really, Sunglass, I

464
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Speaker 3: almost I almost wish I hadn't said anything, because that's

465
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Speaker 3: all I think about every time they look at Yeah.

466
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got a great vision, that's what he said.

467
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Speaker 3: I've got such great vision. I don't even need you

468
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Speaker 3: to open my eyes curly, all right, So a good

469
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Speaker 3: win from Okay, we'll see what happens on Thursday night.

470
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 3: Is that game too there in Okay? I guess my

471
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 3: final note? Are you a fan of the way the

472
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 3: Oklahoma City crowd split their jersey free t shirt colors

473
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Speaker 3: where it's like a block of blue and a block

474
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Speaker 3: of white and a block of blue. You're a fan

475
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Speaker 3: of that? More fan of like one uniformed color and

476
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Speaker 3: how it looks on the on TV? What do you think?

477
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 3: No problems?

478
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 2: The Thunder gets such good buy in by guilty their

479
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Speaker 2: fans into putting it on their shirts.

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Speaker 3: It's really amazing. Yeah, it's like ninety of the people

481
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 3: have the shirt on. Well, I mean you heard tim

482
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Speaker 3: bon Time's talking pregame. They literally put you on the

483
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Speaker 3: jumbo tron with a sign that says put on your shirt,

484
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 3: and everybody will boo you until you do it. It's great,

485
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 3: it is. I mean that's a smart way to get people.

486
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 3: Shirt will trip them into wearing it, so you're not

487
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Speaker 3: a real fan.

488
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Speaker 4: Let's you throw it on and the end and then

489
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Speaker 4: they stand up until they hit a shot. Yeah, they're

490
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Speaker 4: into it, man, they're into I.

491
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Speaker 3: Think Trey Young was at the game last night. I

492
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Speaker 3: believe he was, but he was not wearing the T shirt.

493
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,239
Speaker 3: Now he plays with the Atlanta Hots, so I understand that.

494
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 3: But did they put him on the on the board

495
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 3: and say, come on, put your T shirt on? They

496
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 3: should try it at least yeah, And like would they

497
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Speaker 3: try it with like Jimmy Goldstein when he's there sitting baseline.

498
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Speaker 2: Imagine Jimmy Goldstein wearing a T shirt. That doesn't make

499
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Speaker 2: sense to me. Tree was probably a thunder fan though

500
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 2: right would have been there during the Durant in Westbrook years.

501
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Speaker 4: I think he had a seat in the arena from

502
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Speaker 4: what I do remember, he's sitting on the in the

503
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Speaker 4: upper area upper and did he didn't have great seats?

504
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Speaker 3: And and do you think the athletics own our good

505
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 3: friend Andrew Schlecht, who you see right there with great seats. Obviously,

506
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Speaker 3: you know reporting on the game, so you want to

507
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Speaker 3: remain unbiased as possible. But do you think even he's like, man,

508
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Speaker 3: I should I should put the T shirt on?

509
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Speaker 2: No, he was wearing he was wearing a button down.

510
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Speaker 2: He wanted to. That's gotta be such a weird feeling

511
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 2: for select, Like your team is straight up ball and

512
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 2: right now they look incredible. You're sitting courtside and you

513
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Speaker 2: can't enjoy Yeah, not wordly.

514
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 3: Well, no one told Lyellis that when he went to

515
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 3: a Raptors game back in the day, banging on the wall,

516
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 3: John Schuman's looking at him like you're gonna get this

517
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Speaker 3: fire man. All right, Let's move over to the first

518
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 3: game from last night. It was also a blowout the

519
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 3: Boston Belston. The Boston Celtics picked up in the second

520
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 3: round where they left off in the first round as

521
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 3: well big win. Jalen Brown scored a team high thirty

522
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 3: two points, Derek White added twenty five, and the Celtics

523
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 3: notched their fourth win by twenty plus points in the postseason.

524
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Speaker 3: So another ass kicking here. They hit eighteen threes in

525
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Speaker 3: the victory. But what'd you think of Game one? Boston Cleveland.

526
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: I thought that Celtics felt absolutely zero resistance in this game.

527
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 4: JB.

528
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: Bicks had a micd up segment after the very first

529
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Speaker 2: break in play. The first thing he says to his

530
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: Cleveland Cavaliers in the timeout, we're giving up exactly what

531
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Speaker 2: we said we didn't want to give up. They gave

532
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: up threes, two threes on the very first two possessions.

533
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Speaker 2: Everybody knows that's what the Celtics want to do. The

534
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 2: only reason this was close at all is because the

535
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Speaker 2: Celtics went six of twenty two from three in the

536
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Speaker 2: first half, and the second half they went twelve of

537
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Speaker 2: twenty four. And that's an easy win for the Celtics.

538
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 2: Eighteen to eleven on the three point board, and then

539
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 2: they also won the rebounding battle fifty five to thirty eight.

540
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: This was domination from the Celtics. Derek White, I don't

541
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 2: know if he's the third option on this team, but

542
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 2: he feels like a first option. This was a guy

543
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 2: costing the Celtics playoff series back in the day because

544
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 2: he wouldn't shoot threes, couldn't shoot threes, and now he's

545
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: knocking him down to the point where he's like on

546
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 2: list with Steph Clay Damian Lillard for guys who hit

547
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,959
Speaker 2: twenty threes over five games or something like that. It

548
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: also helps him. I think that Darius Garland is his

549
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 2: primary defender because they put Garland into every single pick

550
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 2: and roll and I think the Celtics scored every single

551
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 2: time that Garland was involved. He just he can't guard

552
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: against these team, against this team because everybody has size

553
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Speaker 2: on Garland. And it's just like Jason Tatum didn't have

554
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: to a great game. He didn't really have a great game.

555
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown did, Derek White did, and they smashed.

556
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Derek White's twenty eight three pointers over a six

557
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 3: game span or the most in Celtics playoff history. And

558
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: then you said, yeah, he's made twenty threes of the

559
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 3: last three games, and you're getting on the list there

560
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 3: of the Curries and the Clays. I think Joel Murray

561
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 3: has done it as well over a three game span

562
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Speaker 3: in the postseason. He can't miss right now, And you're right.

563
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 3: I mean what that was twenty twenty two was like, oh,

564
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 3: this guy might be hurting them, and now he's turned

565
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 3: into Ray Allen for crying O. It's it is pretty wild,

566
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 3: but Yeah, this game never felt really.

567
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Speaker 4: All that close. Yeah. Jayleen Brown was asked about Derek

568
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 4: White after the game and said, he's just getting started.

569
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 4: So was he getna get better? I mean, he looks

570
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 4: obviously great, but he can be the third option. It

571
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 4: is hard to look at this team and say who

572
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Speaker 4: is the number three. It's either chrisps Porzingis or it's

573
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Speaker 4: Derek White. And Derek White yeah, just he was going

574
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Speaker 4: at Garland. It was a little disappointing to see Darius

575
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 4: Garland lack the ability to just move fast enough to

576
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 4: get in the way fast enough. But then Derek White

577
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 4: just got confident taking contested threes. He just felt so

578
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 4: good at whatever was in front of him, and whoever

579
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 4: was there, he was going to shoot in front of him.

580
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 4: It was cool to see the Celtics play like they

581
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 4: could play against the Minnesota Timberwolves in the finals. Not

582
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 4: looking ahead to it, but I am looking ahead to it.

583
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 4: They were winning fifty to fifty balls and that's what

584
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 4: you got to do against the Minnesota Timberwolves and the guys.

585
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 4: You know, I didn't mention when you mentioned Tatum and

586
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 4: Brown and Derek White and Porzingis, the other guys like

587
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 4: Drew he's the guy who what he was signed for,

588
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 4: was doing that. He was scrapping and taking open threes.

589
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 4: Derek White also was doing that. They were just ready

590
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,959
Speaker 4: to play, and I think they're probably fine with nobody

591
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 4: talking about them. Maybe because Miami won game two of

592
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 4: their series, everybody was really not putting Boston back into

593
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 4: the finals, like they aren't in the headlines as much

594
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 4: as they were during the regular season. But I think

595
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 4: that's fine with them. They just come out and everything

596
00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 4: is business, and yeah, it's unlikely that this is gonna

597
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 4: be much of a series just with all their freaking talent.

598
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 4: They played hard most most of the night and they

599
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 4: and they could have easily blown him up by thirty,

600
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 4: like right from the get go if they played even harder.

601
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they were missing threes in the first half. They

602
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 3: were generating good looks though a coorl was hitting a

603
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 3: lot of threes, the sort of keep them around, you know.

604
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell did his part again, and I thought at

605
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 3: least as much scoring as he could possibly do here

606
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 3: over a three game stretch now, but yeah, nobody else,

607
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 3: especially Garland. I mean Darius Garland right now, this guy

608
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 3: was an All star. He looks like to me, like like,

609
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 3: I love this player, but it's gonna come off as

610
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 3: a bit of a disc He looks like Mike Conley

611
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 3: at this point of Mike Conley's career, Like he looks

612
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 3: like an old guy to me. The way he's playing

613
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: is not a lot of juice to him, and he's

614
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 3: getting exploited. And I guess he had a moments in

615
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 3: this one. He scored inside at least, and a couple

616
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 3: of nice flip ins around the net, but not enough.

617
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 3: And this guy was that we were like talking this guy,

618
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 3: but I remember there was debate like, oh, who's who's

619
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 3: gonna be the real lead guard on this team? Now

620
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 3: that's not a conversation at all. He's not that good

621
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 3: right now.

622
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: He's Tyler Hero. He plays exactly like Tyler Hero right now.

623
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: He can get hot, he can have some big shooting games,

624
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 2: but he's given it all back on the other end

625
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: and seems to just not know what to do right now.

626
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: He seems completely lost. And maybe it's because this is

627
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: clearly Donovan Mitchell is the lead guard and it was

628
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: you know, he went out, how do I fit in?

629
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 2: He just doesn't seem to bring anything consistently, and then

630
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: the defense is just bad.

631
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 4: That's bad.

632
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 2: He is He's a target out there.

633
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, no's he's getting left behind. He's not as good

634
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 4: as Mike Conley playing defense now, Like he's just slow

635
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 4: and Conley gets in front of the guy who's supposed

636
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 4: to go. But on the offensive end. Yeah, maybe the

637
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 4: next year they figure out what their pecking order is,

638
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 4: because he'll be.

639
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: The number one guy. He'll be the number one guy

640
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: next year.

641
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 4: Donald's gone, oh yeah, but he's signed. Yeah.

642
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. Do you think this is the end of Donovan

643
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 3: Mitchell here in Cleveland?

644
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

645
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: Where you gotta going Miami?

646
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 3: Oh geez, here we go. Tyler Herroll coming back? Yeah, double,

647
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 3: Tyler Harrol's better one.

648
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: Tyler hero Well, he'd already had. They got Terry Rose here.

649
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.

650
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: But it's it's it's weird. I mean, like Garland, he

651
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 2: is talented. He did make an All Star team, though,

652
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: I feel like he made an All Star team because

653
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: it was in Cleveland that year.

654
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's possible. He had good here.

655
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: He had a good.

656
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: Brutal year and he had the broken jaw and all

657
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: that and a lot of injuries, and you know there

658
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: are reasons, but it's just it's shocking to see him

659
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 3: this sort of playing this poorly over a long stretcher.

660
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 3: This went back to bit the end of the regular

661
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 3: season into the postseason, Garland, Strus and Karris Lavert gave

662
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: the Celtics twenty three points combined in Game one. We said,

663
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 3: somebody's got to help out Mitchell if they have any

664
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: chance to pull off a win here, make this a series,

665
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 3: and and really no one did outside of a Coral

666
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 3: who hit some threes, like I said early, sort of

667
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: cool as the game went on.

668
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it is. Unfortunately both Garland, we're not even

669
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 4: talking about Mobiley on the offensive end. Those two guys

670
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 4: have got to go into training camp and October November

671
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 4: if they're still there, and learn how to play around

672
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 4: Donovan Mitchell and then played together because that didn't happen

673
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 4: this year. They're great two months where without those two

674
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 4: guys I mentioned in Garland and Mobile. So they got

675
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 4: to figure something totally different out because Garland just wasn't

676
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,719
Speaker 4: comfortable like that first three he was so short on

677
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 4: it was so flat, and then he did hit a

678
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 4: couple buckets and transition and all that, but they were

679
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 4: just they weren't there and even mobilely, he was not

680
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 4: assertive enough, Like, there's.

681
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 3: No they brought it on the broadcast. Now he's not

682
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 3: even looking at the rim.

683
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, on that offensive rebound, he's three feet away. When

684
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 4: he got an offensive rebound, he should be dunking on

685
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 4: Derek White because that's who he got it over and

686
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 4: he passed it out. They were yeah, they're not right,

687
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 4: and in a Celtics arena that I didn't think was

688
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 4: all that loud. Okay, Sees arena was way louder. I

689
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 4: thought Celtics arena and fans were just kind of hum hoe.

690
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 4: I mean it was fine.

691
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. Tim Bontemps, I think called it like an early

692
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 3: November game vibe.

693
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: It felt regular season.

694
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 3: It did, Yeah, it did. You know, look they have

695
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: the team. The fans say, yeah, they got bigger plans

696
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: and beating the Cap leaders in Game one of the

697
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 3: second round series. But it's a you know, I do

698
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 3: go back to like Cleveland also asked for this matchup

699
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 3: in a weird way, right, they wanted They wanted Orlando

700
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: to win a first round series, but that that then

701
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 3: put them on this side with the Juggernaut Celtics. So

702
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 3: this isn't really all that shocking, but I will give

703
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 3: some love.

704
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 4: To uh Jugger. Not shocking, it was no, gives.

705
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: Them love to uh, you know, Boston's backup bigs obviously

706
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 3: getting a bit more of an opportunity with Porzingis out

707
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: with injury. Luke Cornett twelve twelve points in his minutes.

708
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 4: Damn those blocks so they were nice.

709
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: Ten boards, Yeah, a couple of blocks he was He

710
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 3: was really good. And then even we saw a little

711
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 3: a little Xavier Tillman there, a little little stretch, but

712
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: he was effective. Obviously getting some burn there with KPO.

713
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 3: But this issue, this series is not gonna be an

714
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: issue not having KP. I don't think they can win

715
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 3: the title without them, but this series, I believe they can.

716
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: I'd like to see him at least tested, you know,

717
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: before the finals, right, it'd be cool to see the

718
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: Celtics play a game that's tough.

719
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and in the conference finals if they get the nick.

720
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 4: So it sure feels like getting the next they could

721
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 4: be a little bit tired going into Boston to play them.

722
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 4: Because this is gonna be a number one. Should be

723
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 4: a longer series for New York and to everybody's injury

724
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 4: that we'll get to and they're just playing all their

725
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 4: guys at the top of their rotation a lot of minutes,

726
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 4: so this could be an easy trip to the final.

727
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. To illustrate that point, I saw Zilla write, it's

728
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: possible that the Celtics sort of star players will have

729
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 3: played like three hundred minutes by the time they get

730
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: to the conference finals, where it's very likely the Knicks players,

731
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: if it's a long series, will be at like six

732
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 3: hundred minutes. They'll have played like twice amount of minutes

733
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 3: it's in play. If Boston takes care of business here

734
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: in the Knicks have a longer series than these guys

735
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 3: continue to play forty five to forty eight minutes. That's

736
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: pretty crazy, and they're obviously banged up too. Yeah. One

737
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 3: final thought on Derek White that I saw from CBS

738
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: Sports that I think probably rings true here is if

739
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: Boston does indeed go on to win a championship this

740
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 3: season and they finally get over that hurdle, Derek White

741
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: is clearly going to wind up being their version of

742
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: what Aaron Gordon was to the Nuggets, what Andrew Wiggins

743
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: was to the Warriors, what even brook Lopez was to

744
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: the Bucks. The idea of like this guy that you

745
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: get for a fairly decent amount, not a lot, is

746
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: what I mean. Like I think it was a pick

747
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: and maybe a deep swap in the future for Derek White,

748
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: but a guy that you get who has limitations but

749
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 3: then unlocks them. And we saw that with Aaron Gordon,

750
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: his movement off the ball, playing with Yo Kicch defensively,

751
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 3: Wiggins locking in brook Lopez too becoming an elite sort

752
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: of rimp protector, and Derek White. It's not the defense,

753
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: that's what they knew they were getting. That's the idea

754
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 3: that again, this is like suddenly, like this guy's the

755
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: greatest three point shoter ever. So I think there's a

756
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: lot of truth to that. It's like finding that sort

757
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 3: of that that third guy, that fourth guy, whatever you

758
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: want to call them, to unlock your team to maybe

759
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: get you to the title.

760
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 4: Absolutely that from CBS Sports And I heard heard you

761
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: say that, and I said, I think I said that before.

762
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 4: So I did a quick google of my my docs

763
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 4: or yep, I said that after Game four against Miami

764
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 4: he had a twenty seven point game. It looked exactly

765
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 4: the same and two big blocks. He plays defense like,

766
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 4: he gets physical. He's a physical dude. He gets after it.

767
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: Can you name a single player that was traded for

768
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 2: Derek White?

769
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 3: No? No, I mean from boss I, Well, do I

770
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 3: have it right that it was a first round pick

771
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 3: and like I think a future swamp.

772
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 2: Uh first round pick and they do still a twenty

773
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: twenty eight first round pick that one could really come.

774
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 4: Back to buy him here? No? No, And I don't know.

775
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: The players Romeo Langford, name Josh Richardson. I knew that

776
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty two first rounder became Blake Wesley.

777
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 3: Holy moly, Christy.

778
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 2: Spurs are like, fine with us. We got Wemby. Yeah,

779
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 2: that's why we traded.

780
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, they traded him right before they traded to Jontey Murray.

781
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: Right.

782
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 4: Well, that's when they decided our best two players. We're

783
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 4: done with them. It's it's an interesting move by the Spurs,

784
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 4: but they wanted to get bad and they did that.

785
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 4: They did that very well.

786
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 3: Any other notes on Boston Cleveland Game one?

787
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ill, I will just say I always love to

788
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 4: see uh Donovan Mitchell do the the Dwayne Wade like

789
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 4: dribbled down and then like the high pick up over.

790
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 4: I love that, but Peynte Pritchard just ate it. You

791
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 4: don't see that happen. You don't usually see a guy.

792
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 4: You always get to see guys stretching out their arms.

793
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 4: If you have a Donovan Mitchell slash Dwayne Wade dribble,

794
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 4: it gets over the arms. But Peyton Pritchard just gobbled it.

795
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: I was going to say, really like that move. You're

796
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: gonna love it when he's in the Miami Heat uniform.

797
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 3: Can't you see like the video sort of transition edit

798
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: right now?

799
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 4: I think they. I think Dwayne Wade's production team has

800
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 4: already done that. I think because he sees himself in

801
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 4: Donovan Mitchell for sure.

802
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mitchell calls Wade his mentor. Wade bought part of

803
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 2: the jazz when Mitchell was there.

804
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. Didn't work out there.

805
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 4: All right.

806
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 3: Those are the last night's blow ups. Let's get to

807
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: some news. The big news from yesterday. It came fairly

808
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: quickly because they have a big break between games two

809
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: and three. But the Nuggets guard Jamal Murray was fined

810
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand dollars by the NBA. He did avoid

811
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 3: suspension for throwing multiple objects in the direction of a

812
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: game official during live play. That is what the league

813
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: announced yesterday and I was quoting them there on the

814
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 3: throwing multiple objects part. Murray tossed a towel. He tossed

815
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 3: a heat pack late in the second quarter, basically at

816
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: Mark Davis, and you know, nothing happened. They sort of

817
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: missed it, CACP quickly grabbed it, chucked it off bout

818
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 3: one hundred k and no suspension sort of. We talked

819
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: about this with Kirk Coldsberry on yesterday's pod. This is

820
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 3: what we were We thought there would be a substantial

821
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 3: fine and he would probably be able to play in

822
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 3: Game three. But any other thoughts on this.

823
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 4: It is funny that he threw a towel first, Yeah,

824
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 4: and it wasn't even close to the court. It was

825
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 4: it was a little shortest on the in the baseline area,

826
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 4: and then he decided, I gotta throw something else through

827
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 4: the heat pack. And I guess it wasn't technically directly

828
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 4: at Mark Davis, although it sort of looked like that

829
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 4: because Mark Davis was asked about it after the game

830
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 4: in the reporter pool and he he said, if we

831
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 4: knew it, it came from the bench. We would have reviewed

832
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 4: it under the Hostile Act trigger and he would have

833
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 4: got a TECH because it wasn't thrown directly at someone,

834
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 4: but if it was, he would have got ejected if

835
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 4: they knew it was at someone, as he told our

836
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 4: man Dave mcmannon. So that's yeah. I guess he's a

837
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 4: little more investigative work there for for Mark Davis, because

838
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 4: it's like he knew he looked around both times, but

839
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 4: it wasn't like Adam and he didn't know if it

840
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 4: came from.

841
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you threw it at first and then you well,

842
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 3: I mean, it wouldn't take long to figure out that

843
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 3: it was a player or at least someone on the

844
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 3: coaching staff. Yeah, theydn't review access to a heat packed

845
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 3: the truck.

846
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 4: We see video reviews all the time in games, but

847
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 4: not for this one. No, they're just chilling for this one.

848
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 4: And I it didn't hit anybody and nobody landed on it,

849
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 4: so that or else or else there probably could have

850
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 4: been injection.

851
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: I guess the Nuggets got lucky here.

852
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 4: I think.

853
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: So Murry isn't being suspended if this happens in the

854
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: regular season, He's probably going to be suspended, though, he

855
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: compared to Dwayne Deadman freaking out again. Eric's postra literally

856
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: his own team. The fara gun goes on the floor.

857
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: He was ejected, So maybe that's what would have happened.

858
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: He did get suspended, but it was by the Miami.

859
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: He see, you're out of here, You're never playing for

860
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: us again, And he didn't. But I bet if you

861
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: ask the Timberwolves and especially Anthony Edwards, they'd say, fine,

862
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: we'd rather beat full strength Hostally.

863
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, the NBA is happy, I think in this situation

864
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 4: because they'd rather have Nugget. They'd rather the Nuggets have

865
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 4: a key guy in game three.

866
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 3: Well, that's what people wonder if this if Denver was

867
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: up to Oh, if the series was one one does

868
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 3: Jamal Murray and the exact same thing happens and he's frustrated.

869
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 3: There's look, he's throwing this crap because he's angry with

870
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: Mark Davis. He's angry with the whistle, he's angry with

871
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 3: everything going on out there. He's frustrated with his shots

872
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 3: not falling. Would have been suspended if it's a different series.

873
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 3: I think it's fair a under I don't know. I'm

874
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 3: not like I we want these guys to play so

875
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 3: and nothing happened in the end. You're right, it could

876
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,479
Speaker 3: have been bad. Kat could have slipped on it. I guess,

877
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: you know, twisted and knee could have been very bad.

878
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 4: Yeah. Again, if nothing happens, if it hits somebody or

879
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 4: somebody steps on it, then he gets a suspension in

880
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 4: my eyes, and in this in this case, in this scenario,

881
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 4: it just it doesn't make as many headlines. It's not

882
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 4: as big.

883
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: He's lucky that his shot is so off right now

884
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 3: that he didn't hit Mark Davis or anybody.

885
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 4: Heard Tim Legler on ESPN say, it's no surprise that

886
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 4: Jamal Murray missed Mark Davis because he is cold. I

887
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 4: get it, sure, But then I went back and watched

888
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 4: everything that Jamal Murray was pissed about every one of

889
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 4: his shots. There was lots of physical play in yesterday's game,

890
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 4: and you know he's he was upset about it. But

891
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 4: they should have thought no, no, no, And I think

892
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 4: I think KCP was the guy who picked it up

893
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 4: and walked off and was like, what the man, what's

894
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 4: going on? He was even upset his teammate, so that

895
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 4: that was weird. And I called it a free throw yesterday,

896
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 4: I was wrong. It definitely was free throw. It was

897
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 4: during play, but it seemed like kind of dead, dead time.

898
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 3: I think Towns was basically making a layup, almost almost

899
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 3: exactly when it happened.

900
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 4: Well, I thought you'd maybe been throwing heat pack because

901
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 4: it looked like Coro Anthony Town's like double dribbled in

902
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 4: a way, but it was hit by the Nuggets player.

903
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 4: I thought that's what it was. I thought that's a bad,

904
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 4: bad call, sir, But it wasn't.

905
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 3: Yesterday I was calling it a heat pad. Today I'm

906
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 3: calling it a heat pack. How do you feel about that.

907
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 4: Pack?

908
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: To me, seems a little bit more transportable, okay, pad,

909
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: I don't know why. It seems like you would plug

910
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: it in.

911
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 3: I don't agree with that.

912
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: I did see a great clip yesterday of Kevin Garnett

913
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: and Paul Pierce. It must have been while they were

914
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: watching this game, because they were talking about Mike Malone

915
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: getting in the face of Mark Davis and they're like,

916
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 2: you got to be careful because Mark Davis will fight you.

917
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 3: I saw that clip as well. Yeah, they told a

918
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: story about Rondo like step into him once or saying

919
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 3: something to him and he was like, you want to

920
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: go just like your ass.

921
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 2: That's pretty crazy, man. They gave the Nuggets a long

922
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,479
Speaker 2: leash in that game too. It really felt like both

923
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: Malone and Jamal Murray they were begging for technicals like

924
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 2: please please discipline us to try to get everybody else

925
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: fired up and the rest of the bait at all

926
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 2: in the summer see in the ring.

927
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 3: All right, So Jamal Murray in theory, if he's good

928
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 3: to go because of his injury or this lingering sort

929
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 3: of shin splints and leg injury, he will be playing

930
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: in game three. But the wall it's a little lighter there.

931
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 3: One hundred K costume. You think it was fifty k

932
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 3: for each thing? Or one hundred k just for the

933
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 3: the heat peck. You think the towel heating them at all?

934
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he said that heat pad looks cheap. Get a

935
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 4: heat pack. Here's one hundred k. I guess it was.

936
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 4: I I googled does Mark Davis fight? Is Mark Davis

937
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 4: a fighter? Unfortunately the Mike Tyson Jake Paul fight came out?

938
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 4: Why did that come up? I don't get it?

939
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: All right. Other piece of news here, this is big

940
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 3: news here for a series in the Eastern Conference. Mitchell

941
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: Robinson has a stress injury to his left ankle. He's

942
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 3: now the third key player for New York that they're

943
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 3: gonna not have or lose during this playoff run. No

944
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 3: Julius Randall to start, Bogdanovic, now Mitchell Robinson. The Knick

945
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 3: said Tuesday that Robinson would be evaluated again in six

946
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 3: to eight weeks, but that essentially rules them out no

947
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 3: matter how far they really go in the postseason, if

948
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 3: they go to the finals and win the whole thing.

949
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 3: Mitchell Robinson, Man, this guy's cursed, absolutely cursed. He cannot stay.

950
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: Healthy, constantly banged up. This is the second time this

951
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 2: season he's been ruled out.

952
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 4: For the season.

953
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: That's true, right, Like they were looking for an injury

954
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: dispensement or whatever it's called from the NBA, but earlier

955
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 2: this year. But get your allergy meds ready. It's time

956
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 2: for the big sknees, press the shahtua. Next man up

957
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 2: to get in here. His energy. I think he can

958
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: match Isaiah Jackson. They kind of play similar styles. He

959
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: can run with the pacers better than a healthy or

960
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 2: than an unhealthy mid Robinson, because man, this guy was

961
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: a limping up and he looked.

962
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 3: So bad in games. It's upset. We didn't bring it up.

963
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 3: I mean we didn't really need to because there's so

964
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 3: much else going on, but he looked he looks so

965
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: heavy and so slow, and yeah, I didn't trust it obviously, Yeah, totally.

966
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 2: But at Chewa, he's not Mitchell Robinson on the glass,

967
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: because only Andre Drummond is Mitchell Robinson on the offensive glass.

968
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: But still, since getting New York, Precious has a thirteen

969
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: point three offensive rebound percentage that would be seventh among

970
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: qualified players, So he still has the glass. Yeah, and

971
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: he's gonna be going against a smaller guy off the

972
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 2: bench in Isaiah Jackson as well. So I kind of

973
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: think the Knicks can survive this. It's good to have

974
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 2: a third center who can actually play because Mitchell Robinson

975
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: used to start in Isaiah Hartenstein was the backup guy.

976
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: I don't think we're gonna see Jericho Simms, but I

977
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: guess he's an option as well. But a Chuwa has

978
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 2: got to be the dude.

979
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 4: It's a good trade that they made with the Toronto

980
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 4: Raptors for Ogan Andobi and Precious Chew. He comes in

981
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 4: handy here for sure. It does like big picture. You

982
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 4: look at the New York Knicks and you think, oh, man,

983
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 4: everybody is injured and they play. Shouldn't say everybody is injured.

984
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 4: Their starters are all playing, but they play those guys

985
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 4: lots of minutes and then their backup guys go out,

986
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 4: so you think, oh, this is bad boy a mcdonovitch out,

987
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 4: Mitchell Robinson up. But I do think in this series

988
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,479
Speaker 4: it's not a big issue because of who he's playing

989
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 4: and Isaiah Jackson, I mean, Mitch, Yeah, doesn't look good

990
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 4: in Game one. It didn't look good in round one

991
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 4: where he missed one game because of an ankle injury.

992
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 4: He was limping aroundgainst Joel Embiat. He looked, he looked

993
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 4: like he was extremely injured. And Isaiah Jackson is quicker

994
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 4: than him, He's just faster, so it is precious time

995
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 4: and Tims is gonna finally use him. When that injury

996
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 4: happened to mister Robinson in round one, he was out

997
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 4: one game against Joel mb precious came in play twenty minutes,

998
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 4: four blocks, seven boards, only one point, a big one

999
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 4: point because he couldn't put the ball through the hoop.

1000
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 4: But I don't think that really matters in this instance

1001
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 4: here with the Knicks. Again, it's okay to have McBride

1002
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 4: and precious at you as your two guys coming off

1003
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 4: the bench. And that's it. That's it, that's all TIBs

1004
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 4: is gonna bring out. There's a chance. He looks at

1005
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 4: Alec Burks and says maybe for a minute or two,

1006
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 4: but probably not shake Milton, No, Jerko sims unlikely. That's

1007
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 4: who they're going. Yeah, that's who they're going.

1008
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: Mitchell Robinson took to Twitter after this news. He says,

1009
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: this is so fed up, dog like, I don't even

1010
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 3: know what to say. He followed that up moments later

1011
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 3: with this is not over. I will seek revenge what

1012
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 3: he deleted that second post? Now people are reading into it,

1013
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: of course, but is the revenge against Joel Embiid, who

1014
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 3: he maybe feels played a part in the ankle injury?

1015
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 3: Ooh right, it has to Why would you delete it?

1016
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: And who's the revenge?

1017
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: Didn't you pull on his right ankle?

1018
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1019
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 4: He did?

1020
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 3: Put I know, I know, So maybe that's why he's like,

1021
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 3: this is stupid. I'll delete this. But I feel bad

1022
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 3: for him. I definitely do feel bad for him because

1023
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 3: I think this is now the fourth in season procedure

1024
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: he's going to have had or undergone here since joining

1025
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: the Knicks in twenty eighteen. Like, he really just cannot

1026
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 3: stay healthy for a substantial amount of time. And he

1027
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 3: was their starting center for the first twenty one games,

1028
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 3: and then yeah, you said it, Trey ankle surgery, misses

1029
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 3: the next fifty. We don't think we maybe see him

1030
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 3: at all for the rest of the year. He comes back,

1031
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 3: he doesn't look at one hundred percent, and then it's

1032
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: tweaked again here or the other ankle, and man, it's bad.

1033
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 3: It's bad. This guy was really good when he was playing.

1034
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 3: He was the top offensive rebound basically in the league.

1035
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 4: It was a good embid stopper at times. But it

1036
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 4: is different against the Pacers who just run, run, run

1037
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 4: with Turner and Isaiah Jackson.

1038
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: Minnesota timberwol center Rudy Gobert is once again the NBA's

1039
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year. Rudy joins Hall of Fame

1040
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 3: centers to ken Mae Matumbo and Ben Wallace as the

1041
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 3: only four time winners. Gobert received seventy two first place votes,

1042
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 3: so he sort of ran away with this one. In

1043
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 3: the end, Victor Wembanama the rook coming in second, Bam third,

1044
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 3: and everybody freaking out that Sabonis got a vote for

1045
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year. Somebody out there really loves

1046
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 3: and respects the defensive rebound. That's right. Some most leads

1047
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 3: the league in defensive rebounds, so somebody wanted to give

1048
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 3: him a little honor there. But yeah, Rudy not surprisingly tasked.

1049
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody's shocked by this. Uh eeks out

1050
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 3: or not really eeks out, but wins his fourth here

1051
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 3: over over Wemby. No Webby says this will be the

1052
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 3: last one he ever wins. Rudy does Webby's gonna win

1053
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 3: five tenth or tenth.

1054
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 4: Straight for sure. Maybe, Yeah, not surprising, But so much

1055
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 4: has changed as far as Rudy Gobert's personality, just his

1056
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 4: reputation over the last few years. Since he won it

1057
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty one, we all wonder the last two years,

1058
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 4: is he getting a little slower? Can we estimate do

1059
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 4: a little sports science on how he gets from the

1060
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 4: lane to the three point line because he did look

1061
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 4: a little slower for the Utah Jazz. Can he guard

1062
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 4: that amount of space? But he's guarding everywhere, something that

1063
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 4: to Kembe and Ben Wallace didn't have to do in

1064
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 4: terms of guarding the three point line as much. He

1065
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 4: Hey guards everywhere, and that's clear. He's also he's on

1066
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 4: an incredible team works for him, and he doesn't have

1067
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 4: to be an offensive player like he had to be

1068
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 4: a little bit more with the Utah Jazz. He just

1069
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 4: has made everybody's you know, the pecking order. They are

1070
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 4: just perfect. And he's helped out Karl Anthony Towns become

1071
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 4: a better player because he doesn't have to defend anything.

1072
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 4: And his teammates like him, which I don't think he was.

1073
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 4: It was part of his reputation before. But people like

1074
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 4: him and they like playing with him. And he's a

1075
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 4: very fit guy. I saw him with his shirt off recently.

1076
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 4: Extremely fit, the extremely fit.

1077
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 3: The Timberwolves had the best defensive rating. They allowed the

1078
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 3: fewest points per game. They held opponents to the lowest

1079
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 3: field goal percentage in the NBA. Go Bear ranked you know,

1080
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 3: near the tops in a lot of your defensive categories,

1081
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 3: even your defensive rebounds and blocks and all that good

1082
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: stuff that you want from a defensive guy. We thought

1083
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 3: Rudy might win this in his first year in Minnesota

1084
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 3: and it didn't go well and they sort of underwhelmed

1085
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 3: and then so it just took a year. And obviously

1086
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 3: it's this is always a team award. It is. And

1087
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 3: he's got incredible perimeter defenders now on light. When he

1088
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 3: played for Utah, he was winning Defensive Player of the

1089
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 3: Years because it was like, holy crap, everybody gets by

1090
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 3: those guys out there and then he's got to clean

1091
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 3: up their mess. Now he's got guys that are dogs

1092
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: out there on the perimeter, and this is how you

1093
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: have the best defense in the league.

1094
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: I think the Timberwolves perimeter defense is making his Utah

1095
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Years look better.

1096
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 3: Now that's interesting.

1097
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 2: You're like, one team was starting Joe Ingles, one team

1098
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 2: starts Jaden McDaniels. You know, like, think about what this

1099
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,919
Speaker 2: guy was cleaning up playing for Utah. But this guy's

1100
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: having probably the best week ever right now. Shout out

1101
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 2: to VH one. His son was born and skipped a

1102
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: playoff game. Didn't matter. They're up too. Oh and now

1103
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: he's winning his fourth Defensive Player of the Year. Put

1104
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 2: him in the Hall of Fame already. He'll never forget

1105
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: this week.

1106
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 3: You believe he's going in the Hall of Fame. We

1107
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 3: don't need I think I want to speak for you there.

1108
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 4: I guess. So he's got four? Yeah, yeah, how do

1109
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 4: you keep him out? Yeah?

1110
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 3: If he gets a title this year, it's a damn lock.

1111
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 3: But I think he's in no matter what. Yeah, that's right,

1112
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 3: and Ben Walls is there and he's got it. Will

1113
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 3: he win another one? I think that's fun? That's fun?

1114
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 3: Or is this the last one? Is Wemby calling a

1115
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 3: shot here and saying no, I'll be winning these for

1116
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 3: the next couple of years here. There'll be other guys

1117
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 3: that come up to But we've never had a rookie

1118
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 3: win Defensive Player of the.

1119
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 2: Year, right, Wemby's gonna break this record. He will get

1120
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 2: more than four. I think. Wow, I got nineteen votes

1121
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: for first place as a rookie on a terrible defense.

1122
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 2: Imagine when they put some decent players around him. He's

1123
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 2: maybe already the best defensive player in the league. Right,

1124
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: but the Timberwolves are a much better defense, though the

1125
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: Spurs played at a Timberwolves level when Wemby was on

1126
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 2: the court.

1127
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 3: Do you want to do a quick little trivia off

1128
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 3: of the Defensive Player of the Year. Ten guys total

1129
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 3: have won more than one DPOY. You guys already know

1130
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 3: the ones that have won four because we talked about it.

1131
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 3: It's Rudy, it's de Kembay, and its Ben Wallace. So

1132
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 3: we've got seven other guys that have won more than two.

1133
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 3: Dwight Howard, he has three. He's the only other one

1134
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 3: with three or more.

1135
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 4: Raymond Draymond Green, No, sir, he has won.

1136
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 3: It has two.

1137
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think of those two guys.

1138
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: Sydney Moncree good ones too.

1139
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 3: I believe you're right. Yep, he's got two.

1140
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 2: There's ten you got, you got?

1141
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 3: You got four more guys with two with two. Dennis Rodman,

1142
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 3: there you go, Dennis Roman, here you go. This award

1143
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 3: is named after the man.

1144
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 2: I did.

1145
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 3: Forget that, Yeah, I know, so did so. Kem Oladje

1146
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 3: one has two, and then you've got two more. Definitely gettable.

1147
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 3: You gotta go to the eighties for one guy, and

1148
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 3: you gotta go to the nineties for the other. Michael Cooper, No, no,

1149
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 3: Coop has one.

1150
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: I think one.

1151
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 3: Okay, who else?

1152
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 2: Big guy marky Eaton, there.

1153
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 3: You go, he's got two.

1154
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: The block guys yea and you said that was the

1155
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: eighties one, would you say the other era was it's nineties?

1156
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 3: Okay, I believe he won both in.

1157
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 4: The nineties, more than one.

1158
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 3: I'll double check that.

1159
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 4: I think roberts One didn't do it more than once.

1160
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 2: Now, David Robinson, No, no, I don't think so. Wheeling, No, man,

1161
00:51:58,320 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 2: this one is.

1162
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 3: He went back to back late nineties.

1163
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 4: This guy's stumper ruining.

1164
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a good This is a.

1165
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 2: Late nineties and it wasn't Kembe who was in the

1166
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: middle there.

1167
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 3: Oh, I guess so he did win. Sorry, I want

1168
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 3: to correct myself. He won ninety nine and then two thousand. Okay, okay,

1169
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 3: so he won. Bingo won a shortened season. I think

1170
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 3: he won the one of them. Yep. So you guys

1171
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 3: nailed it. There the guys who have won multiple Defensive

1172
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 3: Player of the Years ten in total, and Rudies got four.

1173
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 3: And yeah, probably won't be we'll have six or seven

1174
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 3: by the time he's done. Okay. Final piece of news.

1175
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 3: Another member of the Memphis Grizzlies core four is expected

1176
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 3: to receive an upcoming jersey retirement ceremony. According to the

1177
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 3: Commercial Appeal, the Grizzlies are planning to retire Tony Allen's

1178
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 3: jersey for next season. The Grindfather would be the third

1179
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 3: Grizzlies player with the jersey in the rafters, joining Markasol

1180
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 3: who just had his but a month or so ago,

1181
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 3: and Zach Randolph, who already had his tired Tony Allen

1182
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 3: going to be the next one from the Gritton grind

1183
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 3: Eric Grizzlies to go up in the rafters.

1184
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: What do you think they call it the Grindhouse. He's

1185
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 2: the grind Father. You simply had to have Tony Allen's

1186
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 2: number hanging up there. I was going back doing a

1187
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: little research. Apparently in October of twenty seventeen, Tony Allen's

1188
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: first game back in Memphis. He was then on the

1189
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 2: New Orleans Pelicans. They said, then they're going to do this.

1190
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 2: Took seven years, I guess, but he deserves it. Six

1191
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 2: times all defense, three times on the first team, three

1192
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: times on the second team. Kobe Bryant said, this is

1193
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 2: the best guy to ever guard me. Ass was going

1194
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 2: down a deep rabbit hole because I swear there's a

1195
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 2: clip of Tony Allen playing defense with his hands behind

1196
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: his back, you know, like I'm not following you I'm

1197
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 2: just running chest mode against these guys. I couldn't track

1198
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: it down, So if you see it, send it to

1199
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: me because I like that clip.

1200
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 3: Six time All Defensive Team selection during the Grizzlies Gritton

1201
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 3: Grind era and yeah, they were going to retire his

1202
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 3: jersey during the twenty one twenty two season with Randolph,

1203
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 3: but you remember, Allan was like, hey, can you postpone

1204
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 3: the jersey retirement because he was caught up in like

1205
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 3: federal court in that weird multimillion dollar health insurance for

1206
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 3: a fraud scheme. Yeah, which I don't know whatever happened

1207
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 3: from that, but he was like, yeah, can you just

1208
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 3: hold off on this so we'll get it next year

1209
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 3: here Tony Allen have the maybe the whole band back together.

1210
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 3: Do you think they'll schedule it with Mike Conley in attendance?

1211
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, probably sure. Yeah, they did it. They did

1212
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 4: it for Marcasol when it was a day off for

1213
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 4: the Minnesota gen Roles. He got on a plane, got

1214
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 4: over there. But the four GrITT and Grind guys will

1215
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 4: now have their jerseys retired because it's Zach round Off.

1216
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 4: Marcosol already been retired. Mike Conley will be eventually one

1217
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 4: hundred percent if I like the Tony Allen addition here,

1218
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 4: because with a lot of franchises, they wouldn't retire somebody

1219
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 4: like Tony Allen, like a guy who not an All star,

1220
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 4: incredible defensive player, help your team out, a guy that

1221
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 4: will fight for your fan base. So yes, I like it.

1222
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 4: It's it's an organizational type of thing. Some organizations would

1223
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 4: absolutely not.

1224
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,479
Speaker 3: Right, right, right, Yeah, they are celebrating literally that era

1225
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 3: by retiring the jerseys of all these guys, you know,

1226
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 3: Zach ran Off, Marcusol, Yeah, layers, all stars in Tony Allen.

1227
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 3: But that's what they're doing here. And you're right when

1228
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 3: Connley eventually gets his retired too. I mean, they just

1229
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 3: they they were so important to that city and it

1230
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 3: was like they never won the championship, of course, but

1231
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 3: that was like an elite team for many, many years.

1232
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 3: And I like that we have these teams that even

1233
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 3: the ones that don't win a title should be celebrated,

1234
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 3: can be celebrated, especially just for their for their city

1235
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: and for their franchise. So congrats in advanced to Tony

1236
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 3: Allen on the jersey retirement. You want to drive up

1237
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 3: and uh and catch it.

1238
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 4: I wasn't invited to Marcus, so I'm bitter. That would

1239
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 4: have been fun. Marcus al was great and he gave

1240
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 4: a ton of credit to those three guys specifically. So

1241
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 4: now all four will be in there.

1242
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 3: I guess that was the first time they had all

1243
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 3: been back together. They're in Memphis since they had like

1244
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 3: all parted ways like way back, so they'll probably do

1245
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 3: it again. All right, Let's get to tweet of the night.

1246
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 4: Tweet o the Night. Wowwitt. Okay, this is a weird one.

1247
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 4: It's got a few parts here, but I found it

1248
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 4: too funny, so I had to go with it. We know,

1249
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 4: Rudy Gobert just had his first baby. Congress to Rudy Gobert,

1250
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 4: that's why he missed Game two that they won. So

1251
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 4: that's why Sean Sharanya tweeted Timberwool center Rudy Gobert out

1252
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 4: for Game two versus the Nuggets. Gobert had birth of

1253
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 4: his first child. So that's when glue dot guy had

1254
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 4: to google. He said, hold on a second, let me think. Okay,

1255
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 4: so he misses a game here in May. I remember

1256
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 4: him saying he lost his virginity. He googles it. On

1257
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 4: August third, twenty twenty three, Rudy Gobert hits a three pointer.

1258
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 4: He said, quote, I feel like I lost my virginity.

1259
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 4: Hitting a three made him feel like he lost his virginity.

1260
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 4: So that's when glue Guy did a little bit more research,

1261
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 4: and nine months ago to the day, almost almost to

1262
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 4: the day, very very close, within a day. He then

1263
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 4: had his first baby. Interesting, says glue Guy. Saturday, August fifth,

1264
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three is when he said it nine months

1265
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 4: later thanks to glue Guy and go bear World, some

1266
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 4: great names here they put it. They put it all

1267
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 4: together that hey, maybe he conceived, along with his partner

1268
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 4: their first baby on the day. Now, pregnancy doesn't work

1269
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 4: like that all the time. It's not necessarily nine months,

1270
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 4: but who the heck knows how it works. Nine to

1271
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 4: ten months is the proximity. So here we go, here

1272
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 4: we go. It's nine months basically to the day. So

1273
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 4: I classify that as funny enough. You get in to

1274
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 4: tweet of the night. That's good work. That's good work,

1275
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 4: and they work, and it's also all copy and pasted

1276
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 4: and gluede in one screen shot, So I was happy

1277
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 4: to look at it rather than look all right, Yeah,

1278
00:57:58,880 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 4: we'll put together.

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Speaker 2: I forgot about Rudy Gobert making three pointers during the

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Speaker 2: FEBA Tournament. I did remember Anthony Edwards say, if he

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00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 2: shoots a three in Minnesota, I'm walking off the court. Yeah,

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00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 2: oh for three this season, Rudy Gobert from three, I

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00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 2: hasn't made one yet in his.

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Speaker 3: He's over seventeen. Yeah, in the regular season, he's oh

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Speaker 3: for six in Minnesota specifically, Yeah, since he's been there.

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Speaker 3: I looked it up. I was like, how many threes

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Speaker 3: did the Kenbe or Ben Wallace hit in their career?

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Speaker 3: I want to take a stab at it to Kenbi.

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Speaker 3: Let's do to Kenbe first one? He never made one.

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Speaker 3: How many do you think he attempted?

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Speaker 2: He played a lot of seasons, played a long time.

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Speaker 4: Very long.

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00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 2: Twenty five one heave per season.

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Speaker 3: You are so high, you're way too high to keme

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00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,479
Speaker 3: m tumble. If you want to count the playoffs, which

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00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 3: I will, in his career, oh for three, Oh my goodness,

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00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 3: three attempts. That's all the ken Now.

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Speaker 4: I bet those were at the end of a quarter.

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Speaker 3: I would I gotta chuck it, Okay, Ben Wallace, I'm

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00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 3: gonna tell you right now. He has hit a three pointer?

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Speaker 3: But how many in his career? How many in his

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00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 3: regular season? Okay, he didn't hit one in the postseason. Okay,

1303
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 3: regular season three pointers for Ben Wallace and attempts. If

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00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 3: you want to take a stab at it.

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00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 4: I absolutely do five for twenty one.

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00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 3: Okay. Well, that'd be a great percentage.

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00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 4: Terrible percentage.

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00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but you said, okay, five of you want.

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00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 4: To change that, then, yeah, thirty one.

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Speaker 3: Okay, five to thirty one, take your glad.

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Speaker 2: Three of twenty eight. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Ben Wallace in his very long career too, his Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame career seven for fifty one. Wow, shooter, fourteen percent,

1314
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 3: but had multiple seasons where he at least hit one, one, two, three, four, five, six,

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00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 3: seven seasons where he hit one Ben Ben Wallace was

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Speaker 3: a problem offensively.

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Speaker 2: He was a problem offensively, both boys. Yeah, I watched them.

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Speaker 3: There you go, there you go. Ben Wallas hit seven,

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00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 3: Rudy zero at least in the NBA, and then to

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Speaker 3: kembe Ohver three if we count the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: That's wild. I want to know how many times Ben

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01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 4: Willis had his left hand on the ball when he

1323
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 4: took those steps because he was really a one hand chucker,

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01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 4: like a one hand shooter type of guy. Because he

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Speaker 4: shot it in close. I'm gonna watch. I'm gonna watch

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Speaker 4: those three you fire him up.

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Speaker 3: Shouldn't take all, right, we'll call it there. Look one

1328
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 3: game on tonight, that's it. That's great because Survivors also on.

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01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 3: So we're happy about that, the No Buff team. But

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01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 3: we have game two Indiana and New York. It's eight

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01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 3: pm Eastern, so we'll be back tomorrow to talk about that.

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01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 3: But because we we have one game, we might be

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01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 3: light on news. We'll probably hit the beach tomorrow. So

1334
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 3: get your beach step in questions in. You can drop

1335
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 3: them in the YouTube comments, you can tweet them in

1336
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 3: at No Dunks, Inc. That's I n C on the end,

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01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 3: or you can email them no dunks at the Athletic

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Speaker 3: dot Com. We'll probably put a post up there on

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01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 3: our community page on YouTube as well if you want

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01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 3: to drop them there. So we'll hit the beach answer

1341
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 3: some of your questions, anything goes. You want to make

1342
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 3: them about the playoffs, about the awards, about next season,

1343
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 3: about the off season, whatever your questions in we'll try

1344
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 3: and get to as many as possible till then. Clipper Bros.

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Speaker 3: You heard it here first.

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Speaker 2: Have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 3: Love you guys, awesome.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us. And remember Ben Wallace hit some

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Speaker 4: threes and I was disrespectful of his shot form. It's

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01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 4: all right, It was alright watching him here. I haven't

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01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 4: found the Tony Allen behind the behind the back thing.

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Speaker 3: Yet, but it looked like for I just saw him dunk.

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01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 4: Yeah. Now I'm watching the night, the night of Ben

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01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 4: Wallace's life, the hot, the hottest shooting night of Ben

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01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 4: Wallace's life. What did he started with a dunk? I

1356
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 4: don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I wonder his career high, did you know? Way?

1358
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 3: Probably for career free throw shooter. Hall of famer, Hall

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Speaker 3: of famer, the d baby. All right, brace the day, people,