1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let go. Are you 3 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 5 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: It is Thursday, September fifth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode 8 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: number thirty seven. Welcome to another edition of The Break. 9 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: We're la from the SUBC Mortgage studios at the Star 10 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,639 Speaker 1: talking to Cowboys Football for about forty five minutes. We've 11 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: got a lot to get into today. We're gonna talk 12 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: about Zeke's deal. Nick has some information about the deal 13 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: that I think is going to be interesting about maybe 14 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: how this thing kind of plays out in the structure 15 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: of the deal, and maybe it may change some opinions 16 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: about who got the better end of this deal. We'll 17 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: also get into the New York Giant defense. Dave is 18 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: going to give us his his rundown on on what 19 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: to expect from that defense as opposed I mean versus 20 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: the Cowboys offense. Um. And we'll start first with with 21 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: some injury stuff. Do you have something you want to 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: throw them? Okay, you look like you want to looking 23 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: at because you're the host. I was a saying, hey, hi, Nick, 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: paying attention. You're good? Yeah, I'm good. Good, Dave, I'm 25 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: awesome good. I mean, wow, what's the matter with you? No, no, no, 26 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: wan to talk about it. I just when we keep 27 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: talking about Zeke and the contract. I get it, it's important, 28 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: you have to fields. Yeah, I'm just tired of talking 29 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: about contract, especially because I don't really care in a 30 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: way like I'll let them deal with it. It's all 31 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: my money. They say they can figure out how to 32 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: pay people. Then I mean, that's why they make so 33 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: much money to take care of all that complicated stuff 34 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: when he comes to contracting multiple players. So I'm just like, ah, 35 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: let's just play football, all right. Well we will be 36 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: playing football as of Sunday at three thirty five. But 37 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: before we get to that, let's talk a little bit 38 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: about these injuries. Cowboys have a few guys who were 39 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: on the injury report that are of note. Zack Martin 40 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: was limited due to his back. Darien Thompson and Donovan Wilson, 41 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: both backup safeties and special teams players did not practice 42 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: with ankle injuries. Let's start first with Martin. He's missed obviously, 43 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: vast majority of training camp, did not play in the preseason. 44 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: The expectation is that this may be something that they're 45 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: going to kind of have to keep an eye on. 46 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: Is that kind of what you're hearing and what you're 47 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: expecting as far as his back end and managing that 48 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: through the year. Didn't Tom Brady whatn't he limited one 49 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: year like all, like every day of practice. I think 50 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: Zach Martin will be limited, especially on Wednesdays, every day 51 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: of the year, so especially right now. Yeah, it's I 52 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: mean not trying to I don't want to completely downplay it. 53 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: We always say backs are scary, and they are. But 54 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: he's been out there both days. I think all of 55 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: those guys are on a limited schedule of their own, 56 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: you know, Like Jason Garrett said it himself at the 57 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: press conference, like none of those guys did everything, you know, 58 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: so but it's being cautious monitoring that type of stuff. 59 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: He's at practice today. I fully expect him to play. 60 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: It's you know, you just gotta be careful with your vets, 61 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: especially when they're dealing with back pain. All right. Talk 62 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: about the two safeties, Darien Thompson, Donald Wilson. My question 63 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: is do they have enough safeties for this week because 64 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: they have the two starters obviously in Xavier Woods and 65 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: Jeff Heath, then they have Cavon Frazier. Is that enough 66 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: if the one of these two guys can't play this weekend? 67 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: I think C J. Goodwin played some safety in the 68 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: preseason finale the other night and think it was like 69 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: the first time he'd ever done it. So there you go, 70 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: there's your emergency. Yeah, they I mean, we'll keep an 71 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: eye on him. They weren't there today. I would trend 72 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: toward thinking they're not going to play. Kind of scary 73 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: thinking you only have three safeties, But but that's where 74 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: it's at right now. I don't, like I said, I 75 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: don't think they are going to play. Wilson's definitely not, 76 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: and I think Thompson's in the same boat. How does 77 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: it affect you on special teams? Nay, Well, I mean 78 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: I was looking at just now we were watching on practice. 79 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: You can kind of get an idea of who's going 80 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: to be out there on special teams. I mean I 81 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: was looking at kickoff return. I think that they'll they'll 82 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: be fine. I mean you've got one wide receiver obviously 83 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: that that plays. I mean those guys are just your 84 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: your skill positions. You'll probably see maybe Cheeto or Jordan 85 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: Lewis do it a little bit more than that they 86 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: normally do. Anthony Brown, I think, is always on it. 87 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: I don't know if Byron Jones can play. So basically 88 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: you're just talking about how many defensive backslash receivers. Running back, 89 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: You've got Tony Pollard the key. I remember talking to 90 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: Keith will Quinn several times about this and he was like, 91 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: this is all great, but deep comes back. Tony Pollard 92 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: hasn't played anything on special teams, and so they want 93 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: to count on him and those that's not talking about 94 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: as a returner. That's talking about as a guy who's 95 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: doing other things, you know, personal protector or things like that. 96 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: So they're in a little bit of a bind. I 97 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: would imagine when we do an actives to Marvel see 98 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: Jordan Chun will not be That's one of those guys. 99 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: That's why he's here, in no disrespect to his abilities 100 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: as a running back, but they're short at linebacker. Jordan 101 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: Chunn has sort of built like a linebacker. He was 102 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: on kickoff team today. Devin Smith's another one. Like I know, 103 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: he plays gunner and stuff, but like he was on 104 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: the kick return team as a blocker, which maybe he 105 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't be if they were healthier, but they aren't, so 106 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: they're going to have to have a few guys wearing 107 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: those types of hats. And I think Tony Pollard is 108 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: going to be the primary returner, not that they ever 109 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: return kicks anymore in the NFL, but if they ever do, 110 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: he's gonna do it. I hope he gets a shot 111 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: at it. I hope, well he can. I mean, you 112 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: don't have to take a knee eight yards back. Come on, 113 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: if it's five. If it's for than five yards back, 114 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: then it's not worth it unless it's a line drive 115 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: that took four seconds to three seconds to get there. 116 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: Just take off. I hope somebody gives him one two 117 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: yards deep because I think he could do something pretty 118 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: fun with it. All right, let's go and transition. I 119 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit a little bit about 120 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: Zeke's contract. Nick, you texted me last night and you 121 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: had noticed you'd done a little bit of research talked 122 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: to a couple of people. Start to get some details 123 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: on the contract. First, kind of lay out the details 124 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: of what you were telling me about the contract, and 125 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: then we'll talk a little bit about what that might 126 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: mean for the camp. Well, you know, we talked about 127 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: what a bonus signing bonus might be. I thought it 128 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: would be really high. It wasn't. It was seven point 129 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: five millions. Right, let'sive it's a football talk here. I 130 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: understand what that's a lot of money, But I'm just 131 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: saying for eight year deal that that cap charge is 132 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: only going to be less than a million every year. 133 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: So and just so people understand how that works. Basically, 134 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: you take the number of years, you divide that signing 135 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: bonus by that, and that's how much hits your cap 136 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: every year. That's also why if you cut a player 137 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: before you get to the into the deal, whatever money 138 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: is left, it hasn't been realized per year. Yea, all 139 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: gets accelerated up to either that year or the next year, 140 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: depending on when the cut happens. So basically, just looking 141 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: at the deal, ironically, September of the fifth, right, six 142 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: months exactly today is March fifth. That's when his twenty 143 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: twenty contract is guaranteed. So basically, i'm you know, you're 144 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: looking at the roster bonus that he got now, and 145 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: I don't have all the numbers in front of as 146 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: should have done all that. I just know this. And 147 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: if it's fifty million dollars guaranteed by March fifth of 148 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: next year, six months thirty eight, maybe even more than that, 149 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: thirty nine million will be already paid up and we'll 150 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: already be kicked in. So it's not like this is 151 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: going to be something that prolongs way way down the road. Really, 152 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: the translation is, if the Cowboys decide after three years 153 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: that they want to move on and it's not working out, 154 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they're really gonna lose I don't think 155 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: they'll lose any money. They'll actually save money on the cap. 156 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: It's about three years. Yeah, I think the way it 157 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: was explained to me is, yeah, I think in three years, 158 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: if you were to cut him, it would be like 159 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: a six million dollar cap hit, which isn't great, but 160 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: it's also not terrible as far as cutting a guy 161 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: who's on a one hundred million dollars on a contract. 162 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: And I said this to Dick, it'll be less than 163 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: his salary for that year. Yeah, his salary is going 164 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: to be about ten to twelve fifteen maybe, And I 165 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: believe I heard like the last three years of his 166 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: salary or not guaranteed at all because of what you 167 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: just said. So yeah, like if you can get to 168 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: where Zeke is twenty seven, twenty eight, you can get 169 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: out of this. So, which is what we sort of 170 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: anticipated this would be, is always ignore the big numbers, 171 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: always ignore the years, and always ignore the total number 172 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: because the odds are that ain't gonna happen. The guarantees 173 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: or what's important. And the structure, which is what we 174 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: were hearing a lot of during the last several days, 175 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: was the last bit of wrangling was happening around structure. 176 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: And I don't know if it was this structure, but 177 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: it was around structure. But it sounds like when you 178 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: look at this, this really ends up being a three 179 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: to four year extension. He got that he has a 180 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: two years left on that deal, three to four years 181 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: of this new deal, and then the Cowboys pretty much 182 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: could walk away if they wanted to, which means he 183 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: has he really for four to five years. By five 184 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: to six years that you have him under contract, which 185 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: to me sounds great because you would expect that he's 186 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: going to continue with hope, he's going to continue to 187 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: be the same guy least that long and at least 188 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: you never know, you never one hundred percent to no. 189 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: But like I feel comfortable banking that he's twenty four. Now, 190 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: he's got like eight hundred career carries on his bed 191 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: or whatever it is, a thousand and nine on whatever, 192 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: he's got four more years left on his odometer. You 193 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: would think like that is a reasonable gamble. I feel 194 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: fine making it, especially if you can give him some relief. 195 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: With a guy like Tony Pollard, that will be important 196 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: is if he can really play and give you some 197 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: solid relief, then that actually helps a lot. And it 198 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: does take down those number of touches, the number of carries, 199 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: and that helps Zeke quite a bit. Once he signed yesterday, 200 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: you know, just to put it in a perspective, twenty 201 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: seven million of it's already guaranteed, Like he's already hit that. 202 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: That number right there. Seven point five is the base salary. 203 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, they've signed a bonus base salaries 204 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty thousand for this year. Six point 205 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: eight million dollars salary next year, which is now guaranteed 206 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: because we were already passed the new league gear and 207 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: thirteen million dollars option bonus all guaranteed. And then on 208 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: March fifth, nine point six base salary of the next 209 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: year is guaranteed, which puts you up at thirty eight. 210 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: So it feels it feels like a win win. And 211 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: you said yesterday, and I think you're absolutely right. Zeke 212 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: one because he was scheduled to be making three point 213 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: five million and now he's got fifty million in the bank. 214 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: So he did what he set out to do for 215 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: the issue, and good for him. But the Cowboys can 216 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: get away from this in due time without you know, 217 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: without sweating it too much. And Zeke gets the number 218 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: that looks good like nobody Sports Center is not talking 219 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: about this. Sports Center is talking about highest paid running 220 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: back ever, one hundred million dollars fifteen million a year. 221 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: And Zeke looks like a boss. And that was important 222 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: to him. He said it himself. So he gets that 223 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: moment in the sun and the Cowboys are like, okay, cool, 224 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: But in three or four years, if this isn't working out, 225 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: we'll be fine, ye And getting the highest number of 226 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: guarantees for running back in history also matters, right, Getting 227 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: fifty million is a big deal for him. So I 228 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: think the Cowboys we were able to give give on 229 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: that a little bit, but they also did like you said, 230 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: they kept the flexibility. That's the most important part. And 231 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: guaranteeing the next three two to three years is fine 232 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: because you expect him to be here anyways. Even if 233 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: he got hurt, he's still here. I mean, he's not 234 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: going to fall off like that. I don't not that fast. 235 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: You wouldn't think, right, not on this age to play 236 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: devil's advocate. We would have probably said that about Dez 237 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: Bryant and that's not what happened. But like, I feel 238 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: very confident making this gamble that this twenty four year 239 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: old tank of a running back has four more years left. 240 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: I think that's reasonable. All right, let's take our first break. 241 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: We'll come back. We're going to talk about the Giants defense. 242 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,599 Speaker 1: There's a lot of moving parts on this defense, a 243 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: lot of new players, a lot of players that were 244 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: there last year there are no longer there. Dave will 245 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: tell us all about it when we come right back. 246 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: This is Dallas Cowboys dot com Radio. 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Back to 283 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: the break, as Bill Jones just said, get your tickets today. 284 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot com, Um Giants, Cowboys live a teen 285 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: T Stadium. We're gonna talk about that at all, that 286 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna play this week? Think, all right, talk, Well, 287 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: if you want to be there, it's uh they have 288 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: single game tickets available, Uh September eighth, Sunday, three, twenty 289 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: five pm. Awesome, all right, let's let's jump into this 290 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: New York Giant. I just can't do it. I just 291 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: don't jump into the New York Yeah. Yeah, yeah, let 292 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: just jumped to the New York Giants defense. Finally, Dave, 293 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: who talks about this defense? I kind of he's the 294 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: Yesterday like they're they're remaking this team over in a 295 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: new image. Um, you remember Snacks, Harrison, You remember bj Goodson, 296 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: Olivier Vernon, Eli Apple, Landon Collins. I mean that was 297 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: the eighties. I just named guys that played in this 298 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: game last year who aren't there anymore. Snacks was a 299 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: last year. Snacks was there. He got dealt mid season 300 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: last year when they realized they sucked. Olivier Vernon was 301 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: part of the Odell Beckham No, well, yeah, he was 302 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: part of the Odell Beckham trade. Eli Apple is off 303 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: to the New Orleans Saints, where it kind of seems 304 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: like he's rejuvenated his career a little bit Landon Collins 305 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: left for Washington in free agency in their place. Um 306 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: Jabrill Peppers was another big part of the trade with Cleveland, 307 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: so he's playing strong safety now. Janoris Jenkins is still there, 308 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: and then the rest of this you remember alec Ogletree. 309 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: He was also there last year. They traded with the 310 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: Rams for him. But the rest of this is all 311 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: young draft pick. Whether you can start with Dexter Lawrence, 312 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: he was their second first round pick, after Daniel Jones. 313 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: Then DeAndre Baker, the fantastic athletic Georgia corner who's going 314 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: to be a Day one starter. It looks like across 315 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: from Jenkins, Julian Love your nickelback at a Notre Dame, 316 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: who was a guy that Brian brought us was really 317 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: high on. And this is the guy you asked about specifically. 318 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: O'Shane Zimenez another draft show Darling third round pick out 319 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: of Old Dominion O d Who's gonna be a stand 320 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: up linebacker in this scheme because they do play three 321 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: four now, so they're banking on a lot of young talent, 322 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: and they actually you remember bj Hill and Dalvin Tomlinson already, 323 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: they've already kind of hit on some of this. So 324 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: if you're a Giants fan, I'm sitting here thinking, like, 325 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: got a lot of young guy, a lot of young 326 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: good players on cheap rookie contracts who could turn this 327 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: thing around really quickly. On the other hand, you're like, 328 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: all the playmakers that we came to know over the 329 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: last two or three years are gone. This is how 330 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers started, you know which twenty thirteen or fourteen, 331 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: Dave Gettelman same GM Really mhm, iven know that, Yeah, 332 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: but that's what they did. He just got a lot 333 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: of those. It is an eerily familiar blueprint and he 334 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: hit on a ton of them in Carolina, which is again, 335 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: if I'm a Giants fan, I'm like, we could be 336 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: pretty sick in a couple of years, especially if Daniel 337 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: Jones turns into the quarterback that he looked like in 338 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: the preseason. This could be a problem with se Quon 339 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: and with those young defensive players. You're absolutely right about that, 340 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: but I don't think that's going to matter Week one 341 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: of this season. It's a lot of turnover and again, 342 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: like I really like DeAndre Baker, Dalvin Tomlinson. He's a 343 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: nose tackle, but he looked really good. This is this 344 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: is actually already his what his third season, So I 345 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: consider him he needs a nose tackle. He doesn't put 346 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: up a ton of stats, but I consider him a player, 347 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: like a playmaker on that team, especially next to Dexter Lawrence, 348 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: who they're going to be looking at to be that 349 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: pass rusher. But they don't have that war daddy right now, 350 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: which is what we've always associated them with. Whether you 351 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: know usually had multiple Oh wait, I mean strayhand Jpp 352 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: Vernon for a little while. You know, Tyron Smith's worth 353 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: worst enemy, but like as of right now, I don't 354 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: know that that guy is here. So do this for me, Dave, 355 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: walk me through Some of the great part about this 356 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: as I was looking through it is that you do 357 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: the Draft Show, so you know a lot of these 358 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: draft picks. That's I love doing the Draft show because 359 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: every team is interesting to me because I'm like, oh, yeah, 360 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,239 Speaker 1: that I remember that guy, like, so, so do this 361 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: for me. I'm gonna throw throughout some of the names 362 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: of some of these draft picks and I want you 363 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: just tell me your thoughts on them as draft prospects. 364 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: Let's start with DeAndre Baker. I mean, you could argue 365 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: he was the best corner in this class, him and 366 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: Byron Murphy out of Washington M. Like I said, he's 367 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: just super athletic, Like I think could play man with 368 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: Just put him on a guy and at least in 369 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: college and like, and he's gonna take away that side 370 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 1: of the field. I don't know what the Giants are 371 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: gonna do with him, preferably you. I mean, you're spending 372 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: a first round pick on him. Hopefully you would think 373 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: that's the case. I think he's your He's a classic 374 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: man corner. Sorry, go ahead. What about Julian Love. Julian 375 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: Love was dealing with an injury. He's fine now, but 376 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: like he was dealing with an injury, so it it 377 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: hampered his his stock and the evaluations of him. Um. 378 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: But for where they got him in the fourth round, 379 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: I mean, if he's going to start at nickel for 380 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: them as a fourth round pick, I think that says plenty. Um. 381 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm interested to get a look at him, you know. 382 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: And like I said, I didn't watch any preseason tape 383 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: of this, so it'll be fun for me to see 384 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: how these guys translated. Dexter Lawrence was the number seventeen 385 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: pick overall, his first round pick out of Clemson. What 386 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: do you think of him? I think, Dexter Lauren, it's funny. 387 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: Actually we were talking about it Nio Brown during the break, 388 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: like the Raiders messed this whole thing up by taking 389 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: Cleveland Farrell fourth overall, which I think was where I thought. 390 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: I thought seventeen would be about where he was drafted. 391 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: But all those guys out a Glimpson are are nast 392 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that's why they won the national championship last year. 393 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see it in an odd front. It's 394 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: always interesting to me, like if he's going to play 395 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: three four end, Like that's not a position that typically 396 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,239 Speaker 1: generates a ton of pass unless sure, well, I mean 397 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: if you're JJ Watt. So I'm interested to see exactly 398 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: what they are asking him to do, Like is he 399 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: a space eater? Is he a guy that can collapse 400 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: the pocket? Because again, this is a three four front 401 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: that as of right now lacks that long Randy Gregory 402 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 1: type that I know Randy Gregory plays here, but I 403 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: think of him as like a three four freak type 404 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: of guy. DeMarcus Ware all that, Like that guy's not here. 405 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: And Dexter Lawrence isn't that guy, Like they're not going 406 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: to stand him up. So I'm interested to see what 407 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: that looks like in the final rookie that might be 408 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 1: in the mix. Heo's third ground pick number ninety five overall, Oh, 409 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: Shane Zimmon is, what are your thoughts? My main thing 410 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: about he's a very raw player, like od you you 411 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: know what league is that? The Patriot League? I don't 412 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: even don't get mad at me, ODU grads. I'm sorry, 413 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what conference that is? The yeah, I 414 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: can't and he's nut actually, to be fair, shouts out 415 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: to people in Virginia. They did beat Virginia Tech either 416 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: last year or two years ago, like they have some talent, 417 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: but it's it's not big time football in the room 418 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: over he hear in the background. I can hear me 419 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: the back. I can tell you it was just like, yeah, 420 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: but tell William that Virginia Tech lost their opener, so 421 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. Oh, going there, He's 422 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: a raw He's a raw player, which again Gettleman kind 423 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: of has an eye for this, Like I know everybody's 424 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 1: kind of made fun of the stuff he's done in 425 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: New York to this point, but that could be a 426 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: high upside draft pick. Which and again Mia culpa because 427 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: Lorenzo Carter is another guy that kind of fits that 428 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: bill who has shown flashes, another Georgia guy. He's probably 429 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: the best bet that you have right now. But again, 430 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: like Ziminez could turn into a really good player, I 431 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna happen for him week one of 432 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: his rookie season. One other big change in this secondary 433 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: you mentioned it earlier. They went out and the trade 434 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: picked up Jabril Peppers and then replacing him with replacing 435 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: Landon Collins with Jabril Peppers. What are your thoughts on 436 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: those two players? Kind of if you were comparing them 437 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: what they do well, don't do well? How would you 438 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: compare those two players? From the sounds of it, which 439 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,239 Speaker 1: this isn't what I expected from Jabril Peppers, but like 440 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: he's you know, the Browns played him like forty yards 441 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: back from the line in his rookie season, but it 442 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: sounds like he's grown a lot into more of a 443 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: box safety, like a guy who can do stuff closer 444 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmag He's I don't know if 445 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: he's ever gonna be the ballhawk that people thought he 446 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: could be coming out of Michigan. But considering the deal 447 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: that Landon Collins got, if he can give you seventy 448 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: five percent of that at half the cost or way less, 449 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: way less than half the cost, I feel fine about that. Like, 450 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: I think he could be pretty good for them. So 451 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: the Nets here sounds like they got players. They replaced 452 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: a lot of players they don't have or no one 453 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: has had an opportunity yet to step up and be 454 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: the man, like they don't have that war Daddy right now. 455 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: I look at the Giants as a team that's like 456 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: the foundation is there, you know, like you I mean, 457 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: very obviously, And if Daniel Jones is good, then it's 458 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: going to accelerate real quick. I think that they you're 459 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: never going to see another Cowboys herschel Walker type trade. 460 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: But I think they tried to do the best that 461 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: they could with saying, all right, we're gonna start over 462 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: the best guy other than Barkley, but this is the 463 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: best guy we've got. Maybe he's on a decline, who knows, 464 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: and Beckham trade him, get what you can and start 465 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: this thing over and build around Barkley, which well, and 466 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones which honestly, like I respect Eli Manning. I 467 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: think I like him more than most. I would put 468 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: him in the Hall of Fame. Don't yell at me, 469 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys fans. The fact that he has two, I mean 470 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: two super Bowl rings, and I know for that first one, 471 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: I mean the second one, I think clearly he was 472 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: a good part of the reason why they were in 473 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and one and my opinion, and the first 474 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: one is arguing like a top five most iconic super 475 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: Bowl ever. I mean to stop, to stop an undefeated 476 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: season and all that stuff. Regardless, I feel like sentiment 477 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: sentimentality is getting in their way of being better. Like 478 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: what do you mean? I mean, they're not gonna win 479 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl this year? So what are you why 480 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: even bother with Eli Manning? Get the kid in there 481 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: and get this thing going. It just goes to that 482 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: old you know theory of these young quarterbacks. Are they 483 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: better if they sit? Are they better if they're thrown 484 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: in there? And I think that every they can go 485 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: case by case. You can make strong cases for the 486 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: guys that set and learned. He can make strong cases 487 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: for the ones that threw get thrown in there and played. 488 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: You're right, and maybe it won't be a whole year, 489 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: maybe be half of that. I don't think it will be. 490 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: But you know, Okay, people talk about David Carr all 491 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: the time, like did he really have a chance because 492 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: he just got annihilated by his offensive lines in Houston. 493 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: But like, I think the bones of this roster are 494 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: good enough that if Daniel Jones is good, he could 495 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: succeed there. And I and again you're talking about contending 496 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: while these guys are on cheap contracts. This is just 497 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: a year that you're willing to waste with Eli Manning 498 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: because that's also don't believe they're going to make the 499 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: playoffs with Eli. This also becomes about relationships. I think 500 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: when you have ownership who has a relationship with this 501 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: quarterback and they know this quarterback has done a lot 502 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: for their franchise in addition to the two championships. My 503 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: assumption is, knowing how things work around here, that he's 504 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: probably done a lot of things off the field for 505 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: them as well, from the standpoint of helping with community 506 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: things and helping for helping with ways of promoting the brand. 507 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: And he's been a good citizen for them. So all 508 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: those things being considered you're not just walking away from 509 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: a quarterback. You're walking away from a quarterback and a 510 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: guy that they are they position as a probably a 511 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: legend of their franchise, and so that's a little harder 512 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: to do at the quarterback position with a guy that's 513 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: you know, we can say we want about what you 514 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: saw in the preseason, it still isn't unknown, and they 515 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: still feel like, hey, let's give our team an opportunity 516 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: with the experience of Eli Manning. If we get to 517 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: a point maybe where things aren't going our way and 518 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: we know we're not going to be in the playoffs 519 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: and it's pretty definite we're not, then maybe we make 520 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: some changes, but let's enter the season as though we 521 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: think we have a shot and give our players an opportunity. 522 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: We think that's our best chance to win right now. 523 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: I bet that strategy will change by Halloween. Maybe so, 524 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: And I think that's probably that. I think most people 525 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: probably believe that. But I also think that that's the 526 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: hard part about making that kind of decision. You saw 527 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: that dumpster fire was last year when they tried to 528 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: sit him like it's just you got to be very 529 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: delicate with those kinds of things when you have a 530 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: guy that's done with he's done for their franchise. Yeah, 531 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: all right, let's take our final break. Will come back 532 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: and we'll take some questions. Hit Amber up? How do 533 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: you want them to hit you? Amber on Twitter? Got 534 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: some questions? Oh, you don't have to hit her up? Ay? Ready, 535 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: we'll get some questions here at going in this second half, 536 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: I mean this final segment of the show. 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What is more likely to happen in this 577 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: upcoming game? Gallop going over one hundred yards receiving yards 578 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: or Zeke breaking a long run loose given his current conditioning. 579 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: I think Zeke, you think that's more likely to happen 580 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: because it's only one run. Like, It's not like you're 581 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: expecting him. They didn't say he's gonna have a great game. 582 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: He's gonna have one long run. I could see that happen. 583 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: How long, I don't know. I could see him having 584 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: a fifty yard run. That's pretty long. Y probably give 585 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: him some oxygen afterwards. I could see him. Zeke hasn't 586 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: been that back recently, like he does it on the 587 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: screen passes, and I think he had a long run 588 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: against the Lions, and that's what Cobble does. Maybe here's 589 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: your little extra er. I'll take Gallop. I'll take Gallop 590 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: if if they put Jenkins on Cooper or if they 591 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: try to double him like DeAndre Baker. Very good player, 592 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: also a rookie. That's kind of gallops thing anyway, because 593 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: how many times hundred yards though, Yeah, but you just 594 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: said it's just one run. But the way that they've 595 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: been throwing the ball deep with Gallop, it's just one pass. 596 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: It's a sixty seven yard pass for a touchdown. I 597 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: mean then he'll he'll get the other hundred and if 598 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: he goes over one hundred, it'll be four catches, one 599 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: of which was sixty eight yards long and then the 600 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: other three or ten yards. Yeah, I like gallop, and 601 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: that's a good question. It's good. I'll take gallop too. Then, 602 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: I guess plays that plays into this falling question. As 603 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: far as Dak do you expect him to be able 604 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: to shine in the passing game in this game? Yes, 605 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: Everything we saw in the preseason suggest that, Yeah, I do. 606 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: I think he'll shine. I think he'll he'll. I think 607 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore think they've got some stuff dialed up here 608 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,959 Speaker 1: and I see him having a big game. I do. 609 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: I think they'll use their weapons they've got. I think 610 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: Randall Cobb being involved, Gallop, maybe Pollard. I just hope 611 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: it's efficient. I hope it's and exciting and all that, 612 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: and you know, hopefully he looks good throwing the deep ball, 613 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: but just the little stuff rub routes getting just manufacturing 614 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: wide open throws like that's what That's what they did 615 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: for Jared Goff. He didn't morph into this god. Eighty 616 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: percent of his throws are two guys that are all 617 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: alone sighting them open. You watch any of the great quarterbacks, 618 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: they get a sizeable percentage of their throws that are 619 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: schemed open for them. Like you watch the Patriots. They 620 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: were doing a little right up, I mean, do a 621 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: little a little art story video story about that this morning, 622 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: and I was watching on TV and they were showing 623 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: how they just the way they use antile him in 624 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: the slot. Basically they're just working to get him the 625 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: right matchup, and you get a linebacker on him, he 626 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: can't keep up, and so you get this wide open 627 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: pitch and catch between between the two of them, and 628 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: here you got run. And that's why it's just so 629 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: rare to even see what Dak did his rookie year 630 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: to have so much success. It's not about you know, 631 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: our guys good enough, strong enough, can they make the throws. 632 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: It's just the recognition can they actually see it? And 633 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, that's the thing. That's what Romo was actually 634 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: really good at it, you know, and it's it's it's 635 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: a shame he didn't get to do more and win 636 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: more games, but the recognitions there. Tom Brady obviously has 637 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: that Drew Brees, these guys like that that they know 638 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: the mismatch. I mean, I'll never forget that game. I 639 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: guess it was twenty fifteen where the Cowboys were playing 640 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: the Saints and it got to overtime and on the 641 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: second play of overtime and the linebacker Andrew gashcar limps 642 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: off the field and Damien Wilson was a rookie and 643 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: goes onto the field and Drew Brees just looked at 644 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: that and says, wait a second, C J. Spiller, you 645 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: get over there, and he's gonna go with you. Eighty 646 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: five Our touchdown game was over. That's what excites me 647 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: about Tony Pollard. Yeah, be nice, but just it's the 648 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: jack recognition of And he did that. Actually it was 649 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: a game against the Giants where Rod Smith lined up 650 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: in the slot and they hadn't done that all game 651 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: and they put a linebacker there in the middle was 652 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: wide open, and he said, all right, just go over 653 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: the middle and adr touchdown. So that he does it. 654 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: It just said, the more you do it, the more 655 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: you'll recognize things. All right, the Cowboys win the toss 656 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: on Sunday afternoon. What does coach Garrett decide to do that? 657 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: It's hard to say. At the outside of a season. 658 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: He did. He broke out of that last year, Like 659 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: the whole the whole taking the ball thing, he kind 660 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: of gave up on it. You gotta do it at home, 661 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: you gotta take you gotta you want to take the 662 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: ball at home? No, no, k yeah yeah. Your defense 663 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: is not it's defense for all thing at the mouth. 664 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: Defense is good. Now, like you got a really really 665 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: good defense. So if you got a really really good defense, 666 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,719 Speaker 1: that gives you even more reason to defer because if 667 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: they can get a stop on the first now you 668 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: really got the advantage coming out with the ball in 669 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: the second half. I just yeah, And there's no question 670 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: you defer. And fans still if you ask every average 671 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: fan how long it's halftime, they'll probably tell you it's 672 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: twenty minutes. Right about twenty minutes, it's thirteen it is. 673 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: But by the time you get up and go do anything. 674 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: And that's why in the second half you come back 675 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: and look at all the club level seats, they're all empty. 676 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: Every team in the league's the same way about that. 677 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: It's a dead stadium. And Garrett knows that he's the 678 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: one that told us that and in a walk off 679 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: one time, so they don't ever use it. They will Jason, Yes, Hi, 680 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: we're great. You know, I'm always very hesitant to or 681 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: I stopped myself from getting too excited because you yes, 682 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: because you do a bad job when that happens. You know, 683 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: when disappointment comes, it hurts even more. So I always 684 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: catch myself, Okay, don't get too excited. And I've been 685 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: pretty excited about this season and what's going to happen. 686 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: And you know Garrett how robotic is and how he's 687 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: always doing the same thing over and over. But this 688 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 1: past week. There you go. This past week, I've noticed 689 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: a few little things that he's done differently, things that 690 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: are just dumb that you would think, oh, that's not 691 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: a big deal, But to Garrett, it is a big 692 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: ye just little things. I want to know, SA haircut 693 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: for example, this is something dumb. For example, him changing 694 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: the time of when he's going to shoot something in 695 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: the studio. That could be for many different reasons, but 696 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: he's a guy that doesn't do that period. He steaks 697 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: to what move his coaches show back yesterday? I mean 698 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: I was like, whoa seriously? And then there have been 699 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: a few a couple of other little things that it's 700 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: just not a big deal. But it is surprising when 701 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: you know, you know, it's like, oh he did this. 702 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: Even if he changes his hair, that's a big deal, 703 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: or his clothes that's a big deal. But it makes 704 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: me feel excited in a way that there is some 705 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: change happening here and he's, you know, trying to do 706 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: things differently. What did you notice? I feel like a 707 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: bad reporter. What's up? Only twice? What's up? What's up? 708 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: What's up? He only just up what's up? And he 709 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: he only hit once? You know, how he'll come in 710 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: and does do that just little things, little things that 711 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: he's been I mean when he does it every single 712 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: year to start the game. These are the nuggets you 713 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: can only get just watch out, watch out. My surprise 714 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 1: is this year was it that time she's done that before? 715 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: Romo looks sad? Romo looks like with him like he's fine, tired, 716 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: He's fine. And then like a day later like did 717 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: you have something like that? Was Xavier too when she 718 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: was like I wouldn't not looked at him. He just 719 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,919 Speaker 1: didn't look like he feel upset. He looked Yeah, I'll 720 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: say this U Will McClay. Because of the job he 721 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: has and what they do in scouting, he has kind 722 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: of talked to me about how they really watched, like 723 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: people watch they watch these players. Ye, they their behaviors, 724 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: how they carry in themselves, body language, you know, And 725 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,479 Speaker 1: I always thought that was that's really interesting that they 726 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: look at that stuff, you know, and they even do 727 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: like personality tests and all these things. So I've started 728 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: to learn how to like analyze people and you know, 729 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: you get a feel from the vibe. Yeah, you know, 730 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: watch got to watch these people. Good. David wouldn't be 731 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: good for me and you if people did our body 732 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: language all the time. Oh my god, Yeah, that's a 733 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: horrible idea for if if y'all could fire me based 734 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 1: on my body language, i'd have been out of here 735 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: along probably have the week one Who've been like, yeah, 736 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: he's not gonna work out, all right. Who's gonna be 737 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: an under the radar radar player who you think would 738 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: have an impressive performance on Sunday Sheltz? Oh wow, that 739 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: was right, Yeah, because he's very under the radar. I 740 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: ain't done anything. Um, I just think that he'll probably 741 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,959 Speaker 1: be a guy that's just a big point. He'll play, 742 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: not play, They'll they'll get out there and play. He'll 743 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: do something. He'll have a big catch. He'll have a 744 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: seventeen yard catch on third down or something like that. 745 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz, I don't know if if you guys call 746 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 1: this under the radar, but I actually think and what 747 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say maybe what is under the radar. I 748 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: think Cheeto Bay is going to be the best cornerback 749 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 1: on this team this year. Damn. I think he's gonna 750 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: have a phenominal year and I think he'll be I 751 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: think he'll be better than Byron Jones this year, I 752 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 1: think he'll be the best cornerback on this team. It's hard, 753 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: like under the radar questions are hard for us because 754 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: we talk about every aspect of this team so much 755 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: that there's no such thing. Um, if Malik counts, I 756 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: mean he had the best I think he could and 757 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: I know I've said this before. If he can just 758 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: stay healthy pro bowler, I think that's totally possible. And 759 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: then okay, I'll give you under the radar because the 760 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: guy that nobody wants to talk about because nobody likes him, 761 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: Jeff Jeff Jeffy. He'll have a pick on Sunday, like 762 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: this is Cheeto's year, this is Byron's year, This Jordan's 763 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: gonna play are and then Jeff Heat's gonna be the 764 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: one that gets a pick. Just white, all right, he 765 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: has many chances. I mean he's always right where the 766 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: ball is. He might get the pick because late and 767 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: vander esh Clapper somebody and just pops the ball. But 768 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: he definitely counts. Yeah, all right, Where do you guys 769 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: feel as far as Tristan Hill with him and his 770 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 1: strength and what he's able to do, do you feel 771 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: that the Colways should keep Wise. Oh, Daniel Wise. See 772 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: that they didn't. Well, people were yelling at me on 773 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: Thursday night that like, oh, if he wasn't the second 774 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: round pick, they'd cut Tristan Hill and we're gonna lose 775 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: Daniel Wise. Blah blah blaha. Well they didn't. Daniel Wise 776 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 1: is here. It's fine. He's on the practice squad. He'll 777 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: sit there and you can call him up if you 778 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: need to. Later. Tristan Hill is gonna look like a 779 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 1: lot of I mean, you know, Taco comes to mind, 780 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: like he'll have a role because of how much Marinelli 781 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: likes to rotate these guys. He hasn't shown much to 782 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: make me think that he's just gonna take over from 783 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: the start. But that's okay. He's fifty eighth. Overall. This 784 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: team has so many examples of guys that if you 785 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: watch him first and second round picks, you watch him 786 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: in their rookie year and even a second maybe even 787 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: third year, and you're like, man, that wasn't a bad 788 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,959 Speaker 1: good pick, and then all of a sudden they pop 789 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: in that second year, third year or fourth year. Right. 790 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: That's the way I kind of look at Tristan Hill. 791 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: Everybody's not gonna be great when they first get here, 792 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: and he didn't have a great camp. He was very 793 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: average that Marcus Lawrence was. Yeah, there's a lot of guys. 794 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's littered with guys. There's a ton of 795 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: guys that are like that. But Byron Jones is the 796 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: best example because nobody expected last year what he put 797 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: up last year in year number four. So all I'm 798 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: saying is just slow down a bit on making the 799 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: instant evaluation. He was averaged. Okay, that's fine. Give him 800 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: an opportunity to grow into the position. If he develops, 801 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: then great, he will be a good player for them 802 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: at some point. If he doesn't, then we'll all be 803 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 1: willing to say that he's not. But just give him 804 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: a little time to acclimate. I agree with everything you 805 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: just said, but I'll play devil's advocate for those listening 806 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: at home because the kid that they didn't draft one Thornhill, 807 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 1: sounds like he's gonna be a big time contributor right 808 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 1: away for the Chiefs. If he's not going to be 809 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: a starter, then he's going to get a healthy number snaps. 810 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: And that's It's just like Taco and JJ Watt. Every 811 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: time he does something it's gonna be news for us. Yeah, 812 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: and that's it's something we'll have to watch. But if 813 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: Malie Collins plays the way that he's been playing in 814 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 1: training camp, it doesn't bother me one bit that Tristan 815 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 1: Hill is not on the field. That the thing about 816 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: it is comparing Tristan Hill and one Thornhill. I think 817 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: he has to be You have to be careful there 818 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 1: because they didn't draft him, not really because of Tristan Hill. 819 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: It sound like they didn't draft him because of Xavier Woods. Yeah, sure, 820 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: so they wanted they didn't want to stop that progress. 821 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 1: So that's where probably you have to compare. And that 822 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 1: looks like a pretty good decision at this point because 823 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: what you saw from Xavier this year suggests he might 824 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: be ready to the next time. I mean you could 825 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: always say, well, compare him to Jeff because if Heath's 826 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: a free agent next year, those two could play together. 827 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: I really believe it's going to be Donovan Wilson and 828 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: Davier Woods for a few years. That's that's another thing. 829 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: Pick Donovan Wilson looks like he could be a steel 830 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: and so if you've got a talented three tech in 831 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: Tristan Hill. Even if it takes him some time and 832 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: you still found your safety, then I can't be mad 833 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,280 Speaker 1: at that. They'll found both your safeties, right well yeah, yeah, yeah, 834 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 1: so we still have time. Uh no, we don't. Will 835 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: be the end of the show. We appreciate you guys. 836 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: Johnson'll be back tomorrow morning, and actually tomorrow will be 837 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: a good Day'll be Friday. We get to get you 838 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: guys ready for the game. Will tell you what the 839 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys need to do in order to get a win 840 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: this weekend. Till then for Nick even, Dave Helman, Ambergarcia. 841 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on 842 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production 843 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.