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Speaker 1: David Hellman. It is Tuesday, April fifth, which first and
Speaker 1: foremost means it's Angie Hellman's birthday. I'm mama. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're listening, Mom, I think you might be happy birthday.
Speaker 1: Love you. I'm David Hellman. It's also a new episode
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Speaker 1: the Big Voice said, we're all together once again. Jeff, Brian,
Speaker 1: Kyle Fellas. It's getting spicy, like the bullets. The bullets
Speaker 1: are flying, which I wanna think you should say. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's it is. It's maybe regrettable, but common sports parlance. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's getting interesting. It is April. I'm gonna do it again.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give y'all a choose your own adventure just
Speaker 1: because these are the two things I want to hit
Speaker 1: um if you live under a rock. We got a
Speaker 1: pretty good idea of who the Cowboys are bringing to
Speaker 1: the facility on their top thirty visits. We also have
Speaker 1: a gigantic draft trade yesterday that shook up the first
Speaker 1: round a little bit between the Philadelphia Eagles, Philadelphia Eagles
Speaker 1: and the New Orleans Saints. I don't where would you
Speaker 1: rather start? I think probably here in Cowboyland. We're a
Speaker 1: little bit more interested in the names that are going
Speaker 1: to be coming through this facility, a few of which
Speaker 1: are here right now. You're influencing the jerry right now
Speaker 1: we go there, which one on which direction to go?
Speaker 1: Which is kind of messed up after saying we could choose,
Speaker 1: I would you rather start with the trade? No? I
Speaker 1: think you made a great point. Yeah, Cowboys, you're right.
Speaker 1: I've talked to it. I don't know what the Saints
Speaker 1: are doing, though, I talked it through myself and I
Speaker 1: was like, no, let's start with the visits. I think
Speaker 1: the I think the Saints are going to trade again.
Speaker 1: You think they're trying to I think they probably. They're
Speaker 1: probably looking at it. How can they get ahead of Carolina?
Speaker 1: It's what they're thinking about. I think I think the
Speaker 1: quarterback run will start at Carolina potentially, So that's where
Speaker 1: I think. I think. I don't think the Saints are
Speaker 1: done trading. I think they're they're thinking about moving one
Speaker 1: more time. So it sounds like we're starting there. Good point.
Speaker 1: So like, no, I mean, I just saying that, if
Speaker 1: I mean the thirty visit things are the most important.
Speaker 1: I think that. I think two things have happened here,
Speaker 1: both teams looking for a quarterback, but in a different way.
Speaker 1: I think that I think the Saints maybe having their
Speaker 1: eye on it's like Willis or somebody like that, maybe
Speaker 1: pick it, and then they're going to try and make
Speaker 1: one more trade. Yeah, we'll see, And then I think
Speaker 1: the Eagles on the other end, realize that they've evaluated
Speaker 1: the quarterback market. The owner and the general manager of
Speaker 1: come out in support of Jalen Hurts. They're going to
Speaker 1: evaluate him for one more year, and then next year
Speaker 1: they're going to make the move if they have to.
Speaker 1: I love the Eagles thought process here, to be honest.
Speaker 1: They do a good job. They do a really good
Speaker 1: job with how they move around the board, how they
Speaker 1: share yourself. Yeah, multiple first round picks two years in
Speaker 1: a row. You can still I mean it would be
Speaker 1: fun to have three, but you can still add two
Speaker 1: first round picks to your roster. And if Jalen Hurts
Speaker 1: stinks up the joint exactly, you're very well positioned to
Speaker 1: move on. And then you know what if the Saints
Speaker 1: don't find their quarterback and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: that pick turns into like a top six or seven pick,
Speaker 1: and now you're now you're sitting really well with those guys.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's any chance whatsoever that the Saints
Speaker 1: are going up to maybe get one of those tackles too,
Speaker 1: and very well, just because they lost Armstead to Miami,
Speaker 1: they don't necessarily have a starting left tackle at the moment.
Speaker 1: Do they go and get one of the tackles? Doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be in the top five, it's just top ten, period.
Speaker 1: It just seems like that you wouldn't give next year's win.
Speaker 1: But the Saints with Sean Payton have done stuff where
Speaker 1: they moved in. They gave up a next years want
Speaker 1: to go get a defensive end? Yeah, same regime. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, tackle quarterback. I mean, they're they're going to
Speaker 1: get somebody. But I don't think the Saints are done moving.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm That's what I'm thinking. I think this
Speaker 1: illustrates that this is kind of the fun of the NFL,
Speaker 1: and it's the fun of the draft is that teams
Speaker 1: do things different ways because they think it's the best
Speaker 1: way to win. The Saints are hyper aggressive. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: my brain, I think that the Eagles won this trade
Speaker 1: in the landslide. Now, nobody knows until you pick the
Speaker 1: players you pick, but in a vacuum, the Eagles won this.
Speaker 1: By every measurable value chart, whatever you want to use.
Speaker 1: The Eagles won this trade, and they're taking advantage of
Speaker 1: the fact that people devalue later picks, whereas the Saints
Speaker 1: they don't care about anything but today. And I know
Speaker 1: there's a lot of Cowboy fans that want the Cowboys
Speaker 1: to operate that way. I love what the Eagles did
Speaker 1: because they're saying, no, I'm gonna win over the long haul,
Speaker 1: I am going to win this trade. You're gonna feel
Speaker 1: good on Thursday. I'm gonna feel good for five years.
Speaker 1: And like that's I think Cowboy fans have that battle
Speaker 1: happening right now where a lot of people are like,
Speaker 1: I want it now, I want it now. I want
Speaker 1: it now. And I'm one of the weirdos who's like, no,
Speaker 1: just build, always just build. I think you can do
Speaker 1: both though, And I mean the counter to that is
Speaker 1: the Saints are gonna feel great if this turns into
Speaker 1: the next Patrick Mahomes. Obviously, sure that's easier said than done,
Speaker 1: which okay, it's a wonderful point that they did this
Speaker 1: for Marcus Davenport four or five years ago, whatever draft
Speaker 1: that was. I think, oh no, I mean, he hasn't
Speaker 1: been terrible, but he certainly hasn't been worth ha been
Speaker 1: worth that move. It's weird to be the team that
Speaker 1: is trading up like the Saints are trading up. It's
Speaker 1: weird to be the team that's trading up without knowing
Speaker 1: who's going to be available. Yes, it's like to me,
Speaker 1: that's but I'm gonna call it bad prossss. But you
Speaker 1: can have a feel or have called to the teams
Speaker 1: to think that you're gonna be able to move. That's
Speaker 1: why I think they're moving again. But you don't even
Speaker 1: know there is there's precedent for this. The Eagles did
Speaker 1: it for Carson Wentz, Like yeah, we're originally fifteen or sixteen,
Speaker 1: they jumped up to nine or ten, and then they
Speaker 1: use that capital to jump on You can't know, like
Speaker 1: maybe your quarterback goes sixth and you're like, well, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get him when he gets down to it, and
Speaker 1: then on draft day he doesn't. You go, whoops. Well
Speaker 1: they that's why they're trying. They could do another trade
Speaker 1: before draft day, like they don't have to wait until
Speaker 1: clock starts. Yes, but they know the Panthers are probably
Speaker 1: going to be that first team. Brian said it a
Speaker 1: moment ago. That's looking at a quarterback. So if they
Speaker 1: wanted to have an idea of where the quarterback would go,
Speaker 1: you would need to jump into the top five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in order to be ensured that they're getting their guy.
Speaker 1: Is it shocking to you at all that with all
Speaker 1: the dirt we've thrown on this quarterback class that and
Speaker 1: we don't know for sure that's what they're doing, but
Speaker 1: sure it's at least conceivable that that's what the Saints
Speaker 1: are doing. Is that shocking to you at all that
Speaker 1: somebody would move heaven and earth for one of these quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: I think there's a couple of ways I look at it.
Speaker 1: I really do Matt Correll would be my number one
Speaker 1: guy on the board. But I think there's a really
Speaker 1: a group of guys out there and gals that really
Speaker 1: liked what Willis at Liberty could do. I think that
Speaker 1: day he kind of looks like a guy that could
Speaker 1: be what we've seen quarterbacks nowadays, the guy that's mob
Speaker 1: the mobilities outstanding, the armstring's outstanding, you know, the way
Speaker 1: that you know, there's there's touch he has on the ball,
Speaker 1: there's accuracy there. He's a little bit of a shorter guy.
Speaker 1: But we've seen the shorter quarterbacks have some success. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's not I don't think it's the surefire thing.
Speaker 1: There's some teams that are very confident that they can
Speaker 1: evaluate quarterbacks, you know, and that you know, you know,
Speaker 1: the Saints are team that won games with bad quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: you know, so I mean maybe they feel like that
Speaker 1: they have a guy in mind. It might not be Willis,
Speaker 1: it might be Pickt. You know, it might be rare.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, who knows how they see this thing.
Speaker 1: You know, we were all kind of talking about Matt
Speaker 1: Jones last year, you know, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you watch what Matt Jones I mean, we you know,
Speaker 1: everybody's saying at Jones, you know, going third overall that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Well, it looked like Matt Jones played
Speaker 1: well enough to where you should have considered him that high,
Speaker 1: you know. So I think that's the one position where
Speaker 1: nobody sees these guys the same, and they all kind
Speaker 1: of have a plan for what they have to want
Speaker 1: to do. The only thing that's different about the Saints
Speaker 1: is they don't have their head coach calling the place,
Speaker 1: you know, but they have everything else in the offensive
Speaker 1: staff together and say, everything else is still in place though,
Speaker 1: right right right, So to me, I kind of feel
Speaker 1: like that that that would be. You know, these quarterbacks
Speaker 1: they blow you away. No, but I don't think it's
Speaker 1: I don't think they're all just just complete bums either.
Speaker 1: Do you feel any better that at least, I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously those picks are still going to happen. I feel
Speaker 1: a little bit better knowing that the Eagles only have
Speaker 1: two of those picks now instead of they have fifteen
Speaker 1: and eighteen or eighteen and eighteen. Yeah. Yeah, so they're
Speaker 1: still a wide receiver problem. Extra one and extra two
Speaker 1: and okay three, that's your draft Show's problem in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four or twenty twenty three, not right now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah again. The Saints view was for today. The Eagles
Speaker 1: view was for next week. Sure, because I love the
Speaker 1: thought that if Jalen Hurts struggles, they are very well positioned.
Speaker 1: They know you're you're into the draft. That's just sorry.
Speaker 1: If it's the Eagles, I'm sure that bums you out,
Speaker 1: But like that's just smart planning and Hurt is gonna
Speaker 1: play well, or you're gonna chase Bryce Young. Either way
Speaker 1: that's fun. Yeah, but the Eagles getting Bryce Young or
Speaker 1: c J. Stroud probably doesn't make you very happy as
Speaker 1: a Cowboy fan based on what we say, all right,
Speaker 1: I mean we're not going to ignore the other big news.
Speaker 1: I mean, shoot, we've been joking for weeks like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna get some thirty visit names. You
Speaker 1: can't one hundred percent vouch for the authenticity of the
Speaker 1: whole thing. Plants change. Guys don't always make their trips,
Speaker 1: but the vast majority of this year's list hit the
Speaker 1: internet late last week. Were there any big surprises for
Speaker 1: y'all or does this kind of follow the roadmap we
Speaker 1: assumed all along instead of surprise is can I just
Speaker 1: throw out my favorite? Sure, Gilanni Woods? The Cowboys are
Speaker 1: I had to flip this because our guy John Machoda
Speaker 1: is a real jerk, and put them in alphabetical order,
Speaker 1: and I want them in position group order. They're going
Speaker 1: to visit a show to put them in alphabetical order. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is chaos. Yeah, you know how long it took
Speaker 1: me to hit copy group baste. I had to move
Speaker 1: them into the Cowboys. Allegedly, you're going to visit four
Speaker 1: tight ends, and if you had to guess on their
Speaker 1: draft range, I think it goes anywhere from sixty to
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty. Yep. The Cowboys are hunting their
Speaker 1: next tight end and it will likely be in the
Speaker 1: third or fourth round. And my favorite name on the
Speaker 1: list is Gilanni Woods from Virginia who was I believe
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State for three years, transferred to Virginia. Had eight
Speaker 1: touchdowns last year and he looks like a baby giraffe
Speaker 1: playing with humans except strong. So like, there's so many
Speaker 1: fun traits with Gilanni's fun to watch him go downfield.
Speaker 1: He's my guy. He's four six, he's a big leeper,
Speaker 1: he's hard as held to tackle. He wears number zero.
Speaker 1: By the way, Virginia had a receiver that war ninety nine,
Speaker 1: so watching their tape is really fun. Tight end wears zero,
Speaker 1: a receiver wears ninety nine, and they're tight end six
Speaker 1: foot six plus. Yeah, that's pretty six seven one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He's sixty seven. Yeah, and he's two hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: pounds or whatever. And he is held a tackle and
Speaker 1: tested as maybe the most athletic tight end prospect in
Speaker 1: the history of the league. So like, he ain't perfect,
Speaker 1: but he's actually my tight end one, which I see
Speaker 1: for most people. He's four or five and there may
Speaker 1: be more sure things to me. That's Marty b on steroids.
Speaker 1: That's what Jealani Woods is. I do think in a
Speaker 1: class where there's not a surefire like top forty tight end,
Speaker 1: that's it seems like a beauty is in the eye
Speaker 1: of the beholder kind of situation. What's getting held against
Speaker 1: my guy is that he's sixty seven and everybody else
Speaker 1: is five eleven. Yeah, and so he looks uncoordinated while
Speaker 1: he plays, but he's but he's not because the testing
Speaker 1: numbers say that he's not. And this is to your point, David,
Speaker 1: I feel like the draft, being the way that it is,
Speaker 1: allows for a guy that is so tradey to elevate
Speaker 1: quicker than in other drafts where there is that surefire
Speaker 1: tight end that had the numbers, had the production, whereas
Speaker 1: what's had solid production. He wasn't a bum at Virginia
Speaker 1: by any means, but he wasn't up at the top
Speaker 1: of the list like some of these other guys were.
Speaker 1: But the traits and the potential in the ceiling are
Speaker 1: all very enticing for a guy who could go in
Speaker 1: the second to to fifth round. Bring him to me.
Speaker 1: Any other any surprises, any names that really Yeah, they
Speaker 1: don't like your Iowa Center, I guess yeah, as far
Speaker 1: as we are aware, Yeah, Tylan Linderbaum is not scheduled
Speaker 1: to visit right. They've also I was surprised to Charles
Speaker 1: Cross from Mississippi State, and I think, Charles Cross, is
Speaker 1: you think that's a due diligence thing? You know what
Speaker 1: I don't know? To me it is I need to
Speaker 1: ask what I have my gang of seven that I
Speaker 1: call on the radio that are guys that are working
Speaker 1: in the league, and I need to kind of figure
Speaker 1: out is Charles Cross really a slider? Have the media
Speaker 1: scouts made Charles Cross a top ten player, and in
Speaker 1: NFL eyes he's really not. He's a top sixteen player
Speaker 1: or top twenty player, And so I need to figure
Speaker 1: that one out right there. I think what's interesting if
Speaker 1: you just look at the list and study. I know
Speaker 1: on my board I have five first round guys and
Speaker 1: everybody else is just either second, third, fourth round in
Speaker 1: this thing. That'd be Davis, the defensive tackle from Georgia, Lloyd,
Speaker 1: the linebacker from Utah a La, the Burkes, and Cross,
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, so you know they're hunting. They're hunting guys.
Speaker 1: I like what Jeff's talking about with the tight end stuff.
Speaker 1: I think they're also hunting, if you want to be
Speaker 1: honest with the they're hunting these linebackers too. And they're
Speaker 1: not only Lloyd would be the first round one, but
Speaker 1: the other ones they're have, they're hunting that position. They're
Speaker 1: also hunting second round or third round defensive tackles as well.
Speaker 1: So I don't think that I could. I could with
Speaker 1: certainty believe that the twenty fourth pick is going to
Speaker 1: be an offensive player. It's either gonna be a wide receiver,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be and they've got a couple of guards.
Speaker 1: I don't have Zion Johnson and Kenyan Green in the
Speaker 1: first round. Maybe they do, but that I could, I
Speaker 1: could with certainty say that they're having some questions about
Speaker 1: these these guards as well with all the wide receivers
Speaker 1: that they're bringing in. I think the wide receivers going
Speaker 1: back to like Jeff's point, when you're looking at where
Speaker 1: they're tabbing tight ends, the wide receivers that they're bringing in,
Speaker 1: at least reportedly Burke's London Lave. I mean, those are
Speaker 1: three guys that are going to be first round prospects
Speaker 1: and or not available at fifty six at least. I mean,
Speaker 1: you would probably have to go trade up into the
Speaker 1: second round to go get one of those guys. So
Speaker 1: do they feel like that's a bigger need than where anticipating.
Speaker 1: I know we've talked about these guys a lot, but
Speaker 1: maybe it's more realistic than we initially thought to have
Speaker 1: a first round wide receiver. It's got to be music
Speaker 1: to Jeff's ears. Just they clearly and it's music to
Speaker 1: my ears. I don't even have to say, you don't
Speaker 1: have to speak for just on that train. Well it
Speaker 1: is it They can't be satisfied with what they've done.
Speaker 1: If they are, they're setting themselves up for a bad time.
Speaker 1: And at the same time, and though these are it
Speaker 1: is it is a national storyline that they're looking at receivers.
Speaker 1: Ian Rapport reported yesterday that Burke's is visiting this week.
Speaker 1: Chris Olave, I believe, according to Adam Schefter's supposed to
Speaker 1: be here today. And then on top of that, over
Speaker 1: the weekend it comes out that they at least called
Speaker 1: about DeVante Parker, Yeah, the Dolphins receiver who was just
Speaker 1: traded to New England. No idea what they pitched. I
Speaker 1: can imagine them trying to get him for one of
Speaker 1: those fifth round picks. Sure, but they were what they
Speaker 1: got for a Mari yep, yeah right, they were interested
Speaker 1: enough to call. Yeah, And so that leads me to
Speaker 1: believe that they are not satisfied that James Washington is
Speaker 1: enough to be a presumed top three Well I think though,
Speaker 1: SOO two, when you start to talking, I was mentioned
Speaker 1: about no title Lindon. I mean, you know that May
Speaker 1: thirty visits doesn't mean that they're completely going to draft guys,
Speaker 1: but it also means that they probably feel pretty good
Speaker 1: about the Audish and Farniac that kind of maybe we'll
Speaker 1: tell you now they're bringing in you know, we've talked about,
Speaker 1: you know, with Cam Jurgens in Nebraska. He's a little
Speaker 1: bit probably a guy that's very similar to you know
Speaker 1: what you have with Linderbaum, with a little bit of
Speaker 1: a lighter guy. Don't think he's as good of an
Speaker 1: athlete or as good as a you know, a player
Speaker 1: when you get him in space. But you know, maybe
Speaker 1: they're thinking like that. You know that they they'll look
Speaker 1: at that a little bit later than maybe say at
Speaker 1: at twenty four. We're gonna get into this in Twitter
Speaker 1: on the twenty. But I do I struggle with this
Speaker 1: because I agree, I mean, you can't read too much
Speaker 1: into these names because like again, like last year is
Speaker 1: a great example. Parsons was a guy that they had
Speaker 1: looked at and they were tied to after they got
Speaker 1: wiped out at Cornerback. But after that they went down,
Speaker 1: like everything after that were guys that they had not
Speaker 1: really well. We didn't have the thirty visit deal. Last
Speaker 1: it was absolute unquote. It was it was all that
Speaker 1: zoom stuff. I get that, But the point I was
Speaker 1: gonna it's normal to see them go away from the
Speaker 1: list the further you get into the draft. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: first round results speak for themselves, like Morris Claiborne, which
Speaker 1: was before Will's time, Will mcclay's time running the draft,
Speaker 1: and CD, which again that was a COVID year where
Speaker 1: you didn't you didn't get to have visitors, right, And
Speaker 1: I think DeMarcus Sware was when we didn't bring in
Speaker 1: in two thousand and five, if you want to go
Speaker 1: back into ancient history offense. But I think they even
Speaker 1: talked to CD in twenty twenty, like virtually, I think
Speaker 1: they did, but like you just, there's not there's not
Speaker 1: a limit on how many guys you could talk to
Speaker 1: that sort of thing, and it's easier to hide. The
Speaker 1: only two last year were Parsons and then I believe
Speaker 1: Quentin Bohannah. I think those were the only two guys
Speaker 1: that they had even had a virtual meeting with. So
Speaker 1: that shows that they kind of me and Bohannon was
Speaker 1: a guy that McCarthy and Dan Quinn and Will were
Speaker 1: all at the workout because they were there for Joseph,
Speaker 1: so they saw that then with their own eyes. But
Speaker 1: I just I mean Zach Martin Byron Jones, Zeke Elliott,
Speaker 1: Taco Charlton was a visit for better or for worse,
Speaker 1: Layton vander Esh even Tristan Hill in twenty nineteen, like,
Speaker 1: I would call it a very good bet that the
Speaker 1: eventual pick is at this week. Yeah, I mean history
Speaker 1: speaks for itself. Do you disagree? No, I don't think
Speaker 1: he's there. That's why. And the only reason I would
Speaker 1: say that is because you don't have a traditional general
Speaker 1: manager here. You have a general manager and title, but
Speaker 1: he doesn't go on the road and evaluate players. And
Speaker 1: when they work at the combine, he's working on deals,
Speaker 1: whether it's Amari Cooper or Tank Lawrence, that their attention
Speaker 1: is focused another way. They let Will and the scouts
Speaker 1: handled all the other stuff. But yeah, this is an
Speaker 1: opportunity for Stephen and Jerry to see these players. Then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Jerry's like, oh, yeah, I remember
Speaker 1: the meeting here. I've seen the tape. Jim Mauer's the
Speaker 1: medical good, it's good, Okay, boom, let's draft this guy.
Speaker 1: So these are worth thirty Visits for the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: huge because your general manager actually gets to meet with
Speaker 1: the players where you might have taken that advantage, whether
Speaker 1: if you have the Senior Bowl or the combine beforehand,
Speaker 1: it's a wide receiver or an offensive lineman. I mean,
Speaker 1: if we're reading Tea Leaves, I think that is a
Speaker 1: decent bed. Yeah, these guards both belong right around twenty four.
Speaker 1: The wide receivers belong around twenty four, if not before.
Speaker 1: That's where's your knee lineup? That's our pool. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: your pool. I asked that question on Twitter yesterday. All
Speaker 1: things being equal, let's just I mean, let's just say
Speaker 1: you have your Let's just let's just use those name.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've talked about Green and die On, We've
Speaker 1: talked about Burks and Alave. Just take your pick, take
Speaker 1: your pick, and just in a perfect world where all
Speaker 1: four of those are available, and they won't be, but
Speaker 1: if they are Green Johnson, Burkes and Lave Burks and
Speaker 1: alve Man. This one's hard because if I'm going off
Speaker 1: how I've ranked the players, I'll take Burks ahead of
Speaker 1: a Lava. But a part of me thinks that Lave
Speaker 1: fits better here than Burks. But I don't think you
Speaker 1: can care about that, So I'm gonna take the guy
Speaker 1: I have ranked higher. I think I would take Burks
Speaker 1: there too. I would take Burks, Johnson, Greene, Olave. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I'm worried about this offensive coordinary using anybody,
Speaker 1: Burks especially. It's a good question because to me, you
Speaker 1: know this, we can fire coaches. Yeah, we've got to
Speaker 1: figure out. We've got to figure out though, if y'all
Speaker 1: all based so y'all all higher on the receivers than
Speaker 1: either of the lineman. I know you are, Brian No,
Speaker 1: I am, and and to me, that's the thing about
Speaker 1: it is, I would like to believe I think Burke's
Speaker 1: a lobby. I think all those guys in London, I
Speaker 1: think they're all hell of the football players. I think
Speaker 1: if anyone of those guys end up anywhere else. You know,
Speaker 1: you talk to people around the league, you talk to
Speaker 1: people about that no fantasy football stuff. Really, all these
Speaker 1: these national fantasy football players persons, they're going to tell
Speaker 1: you that that trailing Burks might be the highest selected
Speaker 1: rookie wide receiver on fantasy football just because Bay Yeah, whoever,
Speaker 1: Because what you could do is how many things somebody
Speaker 1: will be creative with that player. You know, somebody will
Speaker 1: figure out a way to get him touches. That's the
Speaker 1: thing like right now, I think this we talk about
Speaker 1: this in a daily basis. I know on our show
Speaker 1: we talk about Ceedee Lamb. Are you disappointed in Ceedee
Speaker 1: Lamb right now? Are you disappointed that he that he
Speaker 1: hasn't shown what maybe we've seen at Minnesota or in
Speaker 1: these other you know, Cincinnati. Are you disappointed in him?
Speaker 1: Is it his fault or is it the OC's fault?
Speaker 1: Is at the quarterbacks fault? That's a whole nother argument.
Speaker 1: But you worry about when you draft these players, are
Speaker 1: they going to be used to their full potential. If
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn was coaching wide receivers, I would say, don't
Speaker 1: worry about taking any of these wide receivers. They'll be fine.
Speaker 1: But with what's going on right now, I think you
Speaker 1: have to have some questions. Will you get the ultimate
Speaker 1: from all these offensive players you draft? I think there's
Speaker 1: questions about the offensive line coach. Are you going to
Speaker 1: get the maximum out of Zion Johnson or Green? You know,
Speaker 1: that's a question you have to ask yourself, you know,
Speaker 1: and Jeff's right, you can fire these coaches, but these
Speaker 1: coaches will at least be here for a year. You know,
Speaker 1: and then you'll have to figure out, Oh well, you know,
Speaker 1: look at the look at the situation with Connor McGovern.
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern is in the same exact grade spot that
Speaker 1: we're talking about Zion Johnson and also Green one two one,
Speaker 1: great top of the second round. Where are we at
Speaker 1: right now? At guard? We're talking about a guard right yep?
Speaker 1: You know, is that coach is that the player? Did
Speaker 1: scouts mis evaluate? You know, these are all things that
Speaker 1: are going to factor into this draft, you know, because
Speaker 1: when you take these guys, you know, are you taking
Speaker 1: the right guy and know the coach is going to
Speaker 1: get the maximum out of him. I think that's the
Speaker 1: biggest question you have right now. So with all of
Speaker 1: that being said, where do you feel like those guys
Speaker 1: that he just named off the four names, which one
Speaker 1: would be most utilized or best utilized in this situation
Speaker 1: wherever they land, whether it be the offensive line or
Speaker 1: the wide receiver. Like you say, I absolutely love Cedee
Speaker 1: Lamb wide receiver number one on my board. I think
Speaker 1: the guys sitting to my right was the same way
Speaker 1: you'd be wide receiver one in this draft too. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: do you feel like they've used Ceedee Lamb in a
Speaker 1: way that gets the absolute most benefit out of him.
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes yeah, I mean not to where we vision him.
Speaker 1: I don't believe. No, I'm speaking how much. How much
Speaker 1: of that was they couldn't block the second half of
Speaker 1: the year. No receiver was gonna put up big numbers
Speaker 1: because you were against two high shells to get it.
Speaker 1: I'm not disappointed in the way CD has been used.
Speaker 1: I'm not really. No, his numbers just haven't been justin
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. You're the guy, the guy,
Speaker 1: the guy goes to Minnesota, and I mean we all
Speaker 1: felt we did anybody have Jefferson over Cede Lamb? No, No, okay,
Speaker 1: But if you're going to hold into the standard of
Speaker 1: the best stats in the league, I'm holding him to
Speaker 1: the whole last two years, probably leads the league in yards.
Speaker 1: I'm holding him to stand. I'm holding him to the
Speaker 1: standard if I think that we can get more out
Speaker 1: of the player. Agreed, That's what I'm saying. I'm not
Speaker 1: That's what they're saying across the room too. That see,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. If we're valuating the player and
Speaker 1: we feel like that we should get more out of
Speaker 1: him and we're not, then then that's where the questions.
Speaker 1: I mean, again, I'm not saying we shouldn't draft, but
Speaker 1: I had my guys kind of starting to feel like
Speaker 1: that's what you were No. No, I'm kind of feeling like, no,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to draft because this team does that
Speaker 1: that they got to pick a guy and then he's
Speaker 1: got to play absolutely absolutely, but you might not. It's funny,
Speaker 1: you almost have to get the absolute right guy for
Speaker 1: that to work, because maybe you don't. Maybe you don't
Speaker 1: get the absolute best out of these guys. It's hard
Speaker 1: to say which one of these guys would you take
Speaker 1: when you have questions about the guy, the guy coaching him.
Speaker 1: You know, are you are they absolutely getting the best?
Speaker 1: And if you told me they were taking a defensive
Speaker 1: player at twenty four, I would feel a lot better
Speaker 1: about that than an offensive player. All right, So just
Speaker 1: skip all of that. You you can't fix that. So
Speaker 1: which player do you feel the best about. Knowing all
Speaker 1: of that, with all of the concerns, you just burks
Speaker 1: Burks because he's my highest rated player, so much like
Speaker 1: much like Cede Land was my highest rated player. You know,
Speaker 1: a wide receiver Ppa. Yeah, and now you're really upset
Speaker 1: about the eleven hundred yards and leading the team and touchdowns.
Speaker 1: I'm upset because I think they could do more. I'm
Speaker 1: upset because I think, what, what's the guy get at Minnesota?
Speaker 1: How does he how does the guy at Minnesota play?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like the guy in Minnesota is a
Speaker 1: better player right now than Cede Lamb? Yes? Do you
Speaker 1: feel like the guys Do you feel like the guys
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's a better player than than Ceedee Lamb? Probably. I
Speaker 1: think a lot of it has to do with the
Speaker 1: fact that he could be better than eleven hundred yards.
Speaker 1: But if you're okay with that, that's fine. Walk. I
Speaker 1: agree with Brian that. I mean, you're you're the one
Speaker 1: that you're the one that cheerleading for Cedee Lamb. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean went out of your skull for Ceedee Lamb. Yeah,
Speaker 1: You're okay with eleven hundred yards right now? I'm okay
Speaker 1: with being realistic. Like we interviewed Maury Cooper every week,
Speaker 1: and we talked to Cede Lamb, and that's another thing,
Speaker 1: the same thing. And you're facing two high shells and
Speaker 1: a four man rush that's getting home if you're looking
Speaker 1: for a receiver to go to for fifteen hundred yards,
Speaker 1: that's your fault. No, it ain't happening. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: the fault. It's the fault of scheming him in a
Speaker 1: way that you cannot say. They play two high shell.
Speaker 1: I'm up to beat seven and coverage with the four
Speaker 1: and rush getting home. Okay, I love I would love
Speaker 1: to see the scheme. So you're gonna draft an offensive guard,
Speaker 1: You're just gonna get a draft the guard then right now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna draft the best player can also the best
Speaker 1: player then, and that's who is the best player, I
Speaker 1: said Burkes in that scenario. But okay, but okay, So
Speaker 1: you're need with work to do a guard. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: you're talking about doing You just argue with me about blocking. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: we might need five featund picks on the old line.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you do. It's silly. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't have none of these guards the first rounds on
Speaker 1: my board. Cincinnati is the one exception to all of this,
Speaker 1: and the fact that they do have Jamar Chase, who
Speaker 1: went for fifteen hundred yards as a rookie against it
Speaker 1: with the team that doesn't block with the team that
Speaker 1: doesn't have anybody up front. But it's I get what
Speaker 1: you're saying in the fact that you need some sort
Speaker 1: of middle ground, and Cincinnati didn't have that. Also, wasn't
Speaker 1: hide the way Dallas was played defensive agreed, because they
Speaker 1: do give the ball to Joe Mixon. Teams are honoring
Speaker 1: both the Ruggans, though yep, against Dallas they didn't so
Speaker 1: block makes me think I would rather have a guard
Speaker 1: at twenty four. I don't know bad processes. I can't
Speaker 1: find a starting garden. Second round got I got issues,
Speaker 1: all right? They tried to and they draft him in
Speaker 1: the third. I can turn this into a segue like
Speaker 1: I like to do. We have questions about this because
Speaker 1: my god, we're way over anyway, So we'll take this
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Speaker 1: Brian and mascots. I do love a mascot. Daniel wants
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Speaker 1: this is the last thing we were talking about before
Speaker 1: the break, this visit list, if we can trust it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very heavy on the day one guards and receivers,
Speaker 1: it is. It's awfully light as far as day two
Speaker 1: types of guys. And I do like, well, sort of
Speaker 1: like what we at those positions? At those positions? Um
Speaker 1: and I think, like I think people, this is a
Speaker 1: situation where I wonder if people read too much into
Speaker 1: the visit list, because he's basically saying, does that mean
Speaker 1: that's going to be what the pick is? Or can
Speaker 1: you imagine a scenario where it maybe it doesn't unfold
Speaker 1: that way, or what if they go up and get
Speaker 1: two of those guys? Could I'm trying to uh in
Speaker 1: early in the second round, trade up yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying trade up in the first round. Yeah, maybe get
Speaker 1: back in the top forty. What position group is not
Speaker 1: on here with first round targets that could be the
Speaker 1: wild cardne linebacker, but Devin Lloyd's on there. I think,
Speaker 1: like to me that doing the work that if you
Speaker 1: ask me, if you okay, if you ask me a
Speaker 1: surprise pick, if you ask me a surprise pick, if
Speaker 1: you're one, that would just because we think it's going
Speaker 1: to potentially be the wide receiver, guard, the wild the
Speaker 1: wild card pick out of this whole thing would be
Speaker 1: for me would be Lloyd. That would be the one
Speaker 1: that were like, all right, they brought him in, they knew,
Speaker 1: you know, dan Quinn got a linebacker here. That that
Speaker 1: would be the one that I would I would love
Speaker 1: the pick because I love Lloyd, but that would be
Speaker 1: the pick that I would I would say, man, dan
Speaker 1: Quinn did some politic and in that room and got
Speaker 1: that done or something absolutely nuts happened. Yeah, it would
Speaker 1: be the opposite. It would be the opposite of what
Speaker 1: should have happened in the Zeke Draft with Ramsey, where
Speaker 1: you had you know, if you get Kellen Moore to say, well, man,
Speaker 1: Lloyd makes a lot of sense. You know. It's the
Speaker 1: opposite of what Rod Marinelli said about Zeke. You know,
Speaker 1: he's like, well, yeah, it makes a lot of sense
Speaker 1: draft to running back here, even though you should have
Speaker 1: fought like l for Ramsey. And you know, I don't
Speaker 1: see Dan Quinn rolling over on that, but he might.
Speaker 1: Is there anybody on the list that you wish wasn't
Speaker 1: on the list? Because I do have one, not among
Speaker 1: like the the big name targets. I don't think Bernard
Speaker 1: Raymond that wish was not on the list. That was
Speaker 1: the one I was thinking mocked a lot to the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: You're right about. I was a pro Michigan offensive tackle
Speaker 1: two years ago. He was still a tight end, and
Speaker 1: I see him mocked in the first round, and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: I been wrong before, or yeah, he might develop into
Speaker 1: something really really good. Let somebody else do that. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's that's a good point. He's not a
Speaker 1: bad player. He's just not a first round twenty four
Speaker 1: overall players, and offensive tackles get pushed up. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he may be in that conversation, I should I should
Speaker 1: take myself out of this conversation because I've told this before.
Speaker 1: Every of those weak offensive tackles that I don't like
Speaker 1: end up being Pro Bowl players. Olden Miller's prettydamn good.
Speaker 1: No he is. He's absolutely and again and and so
Speaker 1: is so is the guy you know, uh, David Bakhtiari.
Speaker 1: There's another one way back in the day. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, there seems to be something these weaker I
Speaker 1: was watching the kid Zack Tom play from Wake fourth.
Speaker 1: I think he's a good player, but I also feel
Speaker 1: like he's a pretty weak guy. I think there's several
Speaker 1: of those guys that are kind of that, you know,
Speaker 1: that don't really have a lot of power to the
Speaker 1: way they play, and but they, you know what, they
Speaker 1: get drafted and I don't like it, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden they end up in the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: So it's I guess. And we talked about Charles Cross
Speaker 1: in the first segment in some weird, weird world where
Speaker 1: he slipped. Is that the only scenario you really see
Speaker 1: where it goes away from those two position groups scarred
Speaker 1: and receiver, or if you get one of the top
Speaker 1: five edge rushers somehow to make it to twenty four
Speaker 1: carloftis May. Yeah, yeah, that'd be the dream they're looking
Speaker 1: if they really like Carloftis. I just brought him up
Speaker 1: because no, no, I wonder I actually, okay, this is
Speaker 1: to me, there seems like more of a momentum for
Speaker 1: Sam Williams that it does Carloftis. There's definitely so. And
Speaker 1: I think that's because of where they're targeting these guys.
Speaker 1: I think it's because they're looking second round. But is
Speaker 1: again to try to read Tea Leaves, is that because
Speaker 1: they don't think they have a shot at a guy
Speaker 1: like that, or maybe they just don't like him. I
Speaker 1: don't It's funny that they feel like they don't have
Speaker 1: a shot at Carloftus, but they do. Cross just to
Speaker 1: me that that's that's what I see. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that Drake London is going in the top twelve.
Speaker 1: He may see he's right about he's right about the
Speaker 1: about the Jordan Davis, He's right about that. To me,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm thinking, why would you think that you
Speaker 1: really do believe that this kid, you know, tested as
Speaker 1: well as he did his tape is as good as
Speaker 1: he did, the position that he you know, how he
Speaker 1: can help you, That people are really going to let
Speaker 1: him slide to twenty four. Question from Justin our friend
Speaker 1: friend of the show, our guy Bucky Brooks. His latest mock.
Speaker 1: He had the Cowboys taking our friend boy a maffe
Speaker 1: out of Minnesota, not a not a visitor. As far
Speaker 1: as I'm aware of, how would you I get that's
Speaker 1: potentially a pass rusher that you could get at twenty four.
Speaker 1: I feel like y'all wouldn't love it, though. I kind
Speaker 1: of feel like he's more of a second round guy
Speaker 1: because I've got guys like seeing him rising a lot. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: and absolutely, and you know, but on my board, the
Speaker 1: way I had it myself is like guys like Jermaine
Speaker 1: Johnson and then I kind of have Maffi and Sam
Speaker 1: Williams all kind of group there in that second ROUNDE
Speaker 1: is what I would do. So that great again, maybe
Speaker 1: like a one two three, one two four, you know right,
Speaker 1: you know, right at the top of that second round,
Speaker 1: just out side because I got twenty first round grades,
Speaker 1: so those guys are all kind of in that. So
Speaker 1: if you take him at twenty four, that wouldn't be
Speaker 1: terrible for me. But I've got a couple of guys
Speaker 1: that I think I would like better there. I think
Speaker 1: you make a decent point, Kyle, that we've seen them
Speaker 1: do that before. Trading up to get one of these
Speaker 1: guys is not outside of the realm of possibility, especially
Speaker 1: if it's a position like pass rusher. Yeah, it may
Speaker 1: be Sam Williams. That may be the guy because he
Speaker 1: continues to rise with the draftboards. Maybe it's boy A
Speaker 1: Mafe because I have them touching tags at the same
Speaker 1: time too. Maybe it's one of those two guys that
Speaker 1: they really like they want to trade up and ensure
Speaker 1: that they get there. They may not even have to
Speaker 1: get into the top forty two ensure one of those
Speaker 1: two guys being there. They may just be forty five
Speaker 1: or fifty. I saw this morning where Adam Schefter was
Speaker 1: tweeting about that Drake Jackson Drake Jackson was on like
Speaker 1: twelve visits, you know, and and I was kind of thinking,
Speaker 1: okay that you know, that kind of makes sense. But
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously people like to me, my defensive endboard
Speaker 1: is probably a lot different than what teams have it
Speaker 1: because the Penn State defensive end I'm not as high
Speaker 1: and the South Carolina defensive end I'm not as high on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've had I have both of those guys in the
Speaker 1: third SEO, I do too, And that's what And I
Speaker 1: think that teams maybe will value those guys more than
Speaker 1: I value Sam Williams and Maffe and guys like that.
Speaker 1: That's a good point, Brian David, not me. Another David
Speaker 1: wants to hear more about Matt Correll And yeah, your
Speaker 1: vision for what a team might do with him is
Speaker 1: he doesn't strike me as a guy that's ready to
Speaker 1: start right away or do you think he is just
Speaker 1: sort of your vision for what that might look like? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean physically he's not going to be this.
Speaker 1: He doesn't look on Tay Sall. Yeah, but he's six
Speaker 1: two and he's two twelve. But you watched I watched twelve.
Speaker 1: He looks smaller than that. I watched his pro day
Speaker 1: the other day and he looks he doesn't look just impressive.
Speaker 1: Email heck, the kid from BYU Wilson. He didn't look
Speaker 1: him physically impressive last year at all, and look where
Speaker 1: that ended up. But I think when you watch him play,
Speaker 1: he might not look like a stout quarterback, but he's
Speaker 1: sure plays like one when you watch him carry the ball.
Speaker 1: I mean, there are plenty of times where all of
Speaker 1: a sudden he's running the ball and you're going, Okay.
Speaker 1: You know, he's not going to do it in in the NFL,
Speaker 1: probably as much. But you see his toughness there. You
Speaker 1: see him running over people. You know, he's always going
Speaker 1: to try and make sure that the play is successful.
Speaker 1: I kind of I called him tough. I called him
Speaker 1: hard nose. He's not afraid to lower the shoulder and
Speaker 1: get the first down. I think he's an outstanding ball
Speaker 1: handler and faker. I think deception is really really big
Speaker 1: all the you know, we always do the metrics of
Speaker 1: the play action stuff, and I think he's really really
Speaker 1: good about that. Makes a ton of plays on the move.
Speaker 1: So if you want to kind of move him around
Speaker 1: in the pocket, let him throw from those different platforms
Speaker 1: he can he can do that. I kind of like
Speaker 1: the way I think he puts the ball in the
Speaker 1: right spot for his guys to catch it too. I
Speaker 1: didn't see his receivers having to struggle to make a
Speaker 1: lot of plays for him, So I kind of I
Speaker 1: like him. I think I think, you know, I think
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys, like I said, he'll play
Speaker 1: hurt and he'll continue to thrive. That's just the heart
Speaker 1: to desire, and I think he's got the intangibles as
Speaker 1: well as with the ability to kind of put it
Speaker 1: all together when he was given time to throw. He
Speaker 1: has the prettiest deep ball in the class. I mean,
Speaker 1: he has a cannon of an arm. He puts it
Speaker 1: on the money. He makes it, like you said, easy
Speaker 1: for his receivers. The one thing against Corral is actually
Speaker 1: the same knock I have for Malik Willis. He's a
Speaker 1: little quick to use his legs. He's got that time
Speaker 1: clock and it was a little bit shorter. Now. His
Speaker 1: offensive line wasn't necessarily fantastic in front of him either.
Speaker 1: Same thing for Malik Willis at Liberty, but he was
Speaker 1: very quick at just bailing and trying to get outside,
Speaker 1: which is a good thing at times. But in the
Speaker 1: NFL he'll have hopefully more time to throw, and he
Speaker 1: should be I think a starter within the first two
Speaker 1: years of his career. He's a good player. One last one, Jeff,
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it can be for all of y'all,
Speaker 1: but he came for Jeff's next so I haven't heard
Speaker 1: that name yet. No. John just says in such a
Speaker 1: deep draft. If we talk about like the quality after
Speaker 1: the top ten. Why has Captain Trade Doown gone so silent? Oh? No,
Speaker 1: Captain Trade Doown's here is he? You have not talked
Speaker 1: about it? Oh? Well you had to to check me
Speaker 1: out on YouTube. Did three mocks yesterday, did a lot
Speaker 1: of moving feff one channel. Yeah, find me on my
Speaker 1: YouTube channel. It just it depends on what ends up
Speaker 1: being there. Like if you get to and these are
Speaker 1: just stupid simulators, but a lot of times I'll get
Speaker 1: there and both guards are there, one of the receivers
Speaker 1: is there. Um trying to think what else is there?
Speaker 1: But I'll get I'll get to the point where it's like,
Speaker 1: oh crap. If Kansas City wants to come up, and
Speaker 1: I can drop five spots and I've got three or
Speaker 1: four guys left that I really like, let's go, let's go.
Speaker 1: But if you get to a spot where can you
Speaker 1: Mareen is gone. The top five wide receivers are gone,
Speaker 1: and it's basically, hey, here's Zion Johnson and or Tyler Linderbaum.
Speaker 1: If they would be interested or you could move back
Speaker 1: and see what happens, then I think you can't do that.
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of how many quote targets do
Speaker 1: you have left when you get to twenty four, and
Speaker 1: how comfortable are you with it? It's how cute you
Speaker 1: want to be. That's Trading down is in itself a
Speaker 1: cute thing. No, it is cute, but you got badass.
Speaker 1: But you got to make sure that you gotta you know.
Speaker 1: And he's right about the level of players though, you know,
Speaker 1: because I asked him yesterday. I saw I did a simulator.
Speaker 1: I said, who did Kansas City take at twenty four?
Speaker 1: They traded up, They came after trailing birds, they got Burkes,
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, okay, well, I wonder if was it
Speaker 1: worth it to the cowboys to make that trade if
Speaker 1: they lose a guy that they if they're hunting wide receivers,
Speaker 1: does it does it? Does it make it? Or are
Speaker 1: they comfortable with with a lobby there or somebody like that.
Speaker 1: You know, That's where that's kind of where I was.
Speaker 1: I was. I got sky Moore at fifty and that
Speaker 1: one I wouldn't worry about it. Yeah, I saw that,
Speaker 1: well worked out great? Okay, So I just ran a simulator.
Speaker 1: You want to try and play through a scenario real quick? Oh?
Speaker 1: Trade down? Yeah, you want to trade down. Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1: Ivanta Wyatt's on the board. Linder bombs on the board,
Speaker 1: pinning Ojabo uh Elam from Florida, Jalen Petrie from Baylor,
Speaker 1: trailing Burkes, Zion Johnson. Those are your top ten. Problem
Speaker 1: is these people have bad rankings. I just ran because
Speaker 1: you read a bunch of duds that should get picked
Speaker 1: in the forties and then a guy who's gonna go
Speaker 1: like twenties. Yeah, I agree. So Burke's Zion Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: wants the trade for or trade with you. The packers
Speaker 1: want to trade with you. So that's twenty seven, twenty eight,
Speaker 1: and then the Bears at thirty nurs we're going down.
Speaker 1: Which packer pick? Are you going to get all the
Speaker 1: packers up for whatever? Yeah? You give them your one
Speaker 1: and your three for their one and their two, and
Speaker 1: if they're willing to do it, you hit execute and
Speaker 1: then we dominate this draft. You kidding me? Trade not accepted?
Speaker 1: Hang up on him and tell him off, and then
Speaker 1: pick your player. That's easy. Yeah, funny, it's funny. It's
Speaker 1: funny how Inning is one of those guys. And I
Speaker 1: think Jeff's right, he's gone. He's top fifteen. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean these tackles. That's what surprises me about their visit
Speaker 1: with Cross because I feel like all these tackles are
Speaker 1: gonna be gone before the Cowboys pick before on this
Speaker 1: I feel like we're falling into a trap here though,
Speaker 1: where I like, that's It's all we've been saying is
Speaker 1: like this is a different draft, Like there's not a
Speaker 1: lot of consensus, but here we are with consensus of like, oh,
Speaker 1: he won't be there, he'll be gone too. Oh no,
Speaker 1: I don't care if he is there. It's a very
Speaker 1: general consensus. It's not like we're saying, oh, he's going
Speaker 1: to Carolina and it's John No. I know, but but
Speaker 1: like somebody has to be there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And in a world where Travon Walker is going a
Speaker 1: long three days, people are gonna be there. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: People must think the Cavon Thibodeaux hates hates football. I
Speaker 1: just want to throw that out there. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do every week because the Trayvon Walker over
Speaker 1: Cavon Thibodeau stuff on tape is cracka. I like Walker
Speaker 1: a lot, but there's no way I wonder if that
Speaker 1: if Tibodau must hate football, like look he doesn't care.
Speaker 1: I wonder what that momentum is really all about. I
Speaker 1: like Walker, and it's so funny. When we first started
Speaker 1: this journey, every mock draft had Walker. And if it's
Speaker 1: saying wich you want to say about the mock drafts,
Speaker 1: but every name was Walker, Walker Walker at twenty four. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now he's gone from twenty four to sixteen to
Speaker 1: being the first overall guy in some boards. And I
Speaker 1: understand people having to make mock drafts up. You got
Speaker 1: to mix it up, so you can't do the same
Speaker 1: He can't do the same thing every time, or you're
Speaker 1: not gonna be a mock draft for long and you're
Speaker 1: not going to have a gig. Yeah, your last one
Speaker 1: is your most important one. But I mean, it's so funny,
Speaker 1: but that this guy's gone from twenty four to sixteen
Speaker 1: to being in the top two. I'm just and I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to I'm trying to keep my mind open
Speaker 1: because I I at any rate, I hope that the
Speaker 1: first round is as surprising as I think it'll be.
Speaker 1: You know what if I would make for some fun
Speaker 1: radio Thibodeau if I was if I was a Giant,
Speaker 1: if I was a Giants at five and at seven,
Speaker 1: why would you not just take the two best offensive tackles,
Speaker 1: you know something like that. I mean, that's where I'm seeing,
Speaker 1: like these tackles could be going because there's just so
Speaker 1: many teams ahead of you up there that need these
Speaker 1: offensive linemen. You watch them play and they just can't
Speaker 1: do anything. Jeff's talking about it. You can't run the ball,
Speaker 1: can't pass per tech, teams are bad at blocking. There.
Speaker 1: If the Giants come out of this draft without Sauce Gardner,
Speaker 1: I think they might be making Sauce Gartner might be
Speaker 1: the best player in the draft. All Right, we're running short.
Speaker 1: I do I tease the return of tell me more so.
Speaker 1: I want to give us time to get to that.
Speaker 1: We're going to dive into some later round prospects when
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Speaker 1: Could read thank you? I wasn't I wasn't sure where
Speaker 1: it was going to be honest with you, take a
Speaker 1: glance at it before you come back. Nah, general feel
Speaker 1: for the words way too easy. It's time for tell
Speaker 1: me more guys. I wanted, like I people have been
Speaker 1: asking about this for months. Really, I wanted to wait
Speaker 1: A to give y'all as much time as possible to
Speaker 1: watch players, and B we would have a better idea
Speaker 1: of who we might want to learn about. And Um
Speaker 1: without getting into the nitty gritty. I think all five
Speaker 1: of these guys have some sort of tie to the
Speaker 1: Cowboys that we have heard in one form or another.
Speaker 1: So we'll start things off. Tell me more about SMU
Speaker 1: tight end, Grant Calcata brand, you start, you want me
Speaker 1: to start, you can start. Well, you know I liked
Speaker 1: I'm a nice positive man. So Um talked about is
Speaker 1: a former Bomer Sooner. Yeah, sure is that I probably
Speaker 1: would not draft because of a combination of things. Number One,
Speaker 1: he retired from football during his third season at OU
Speaker 1: after a series of concussions. So you're gonna have health
Speaker 1: stuff you're gonna have to work through and on tape.
Speaker 1: Calcutara is interesting because I think he's a solid receiver,
Speaker 1: Like he's a pretty good receiving tight end, but he's
Speaker 1: a pretty good receiving tight end that I don't think
Speaker 1: he can get open against man coverage. Yeah, and he's
Speaker 1: not a good blocker, that's true. So I've got health concerns,
Speaker 1: blocking concerns, man coverage concerns. But just as far as
Speaker 1: running your standard tight end routes, catch the ball, okay
Speaker 1: after catch, Like, he's not a bad player. I just
Speaker 1: think I have enough questions that I would find other
Speaker 1: tight ends to pick. Yeah, I mean, this guy doesn't
Speaker 1: plays a true in line. Why you mean you don't
Speaker 1: see him? You know, he's always detached, he's always in
Speaker 1: the slot. He runs routes where they have to use
Speaker 1: cross or he's a cross, or they pick they try
Speaker 1: and get him open. I mean, straight line, pretty good speed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the thing about it is though there's nothing after
Speaker 1: the catch with this guy. No, there's nothing. I mean,
Speaker 1: you throw him the ball. It's like he has a
Speaker 1: chance to score a couple of times in games I'm watching,
Speaker 1: and like he gets yanked down and I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean no power to get into the end zone or
Speaker 1: drag anybody. Some of these other tight ends you've seen
Speaker 1: in the ones that we've mentioned, they have power, they're
Speaker 1: able to finish, they're able to score, they're able to
Speaker 1: get more yards. I think this guy at six four,
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty one pounds, I think he's just
Speaker 1: too light to play. But again, you talk about the
Speaker 1: medical history and stuff like that, that's something I'm not
Speaker 1: interested in myself. No, no pun intended with it, of
Speaker 1: course being SMU. But he's kind of a one trick pony.
Speaker 1: I mean, but it's the way that he, like you said,
Speaker 1: he has the front line speed or the straight line
Speaker 1: speed rather four or five seven after combine, he can
Speaker 1: run and he can catch. That's about it. He's run
Speaker 1: across the field and catch it. Yeah, yeah, that's what.
Speaker 1: He's not a great route runner. He's not super versatile.
Speaker 1: But um, I mean his production was even great either.
Speaker 1: He had two other guys he was sharing in the
Speaker 1: field with with Reggie Robertson Junior that's in the draft
Speaker 1: class as well. I will say great the other tight
Speaker 1: end that came in. Sometimes it wears eighty six. It's
Speaker 1: way worse. I was about to say, what's going on?
Speaker 1: Like maybe I was? I was. I was intrigued for
Speaker 1: a second. No, you're gonna be okay, This is not
Speaker 1: like the Georgia defensive tak Yeah, where you're like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, this guy is better because sometimes he would
Speaker 1: come up the ball and like, man, he's running even
Speaker 1: slower than usual. And I was like, oh, it's eighty six.
Speaker 1: They have to have to detach him so he can run.
Speaker 1: I think let's hope for some better luck. He was
Speaker 1: a Senior Bowl guy. Tell me say that Senior Bowl
Speaker 1: on GPS. Boom, wonderful. Yeah, tell me more about Cam Jurgens,
Speaker 1: the center out of Nebraska. I'm gonna have to blimp Cami.
Speaker 1: I don't have Nebraska film Brian. Uh yeah, Cam Jurgens though,
Speaker 1: as I got invited to watch Cam Jurgens, so my
Speaker 1: opponent can't say that, right, Cam Jurgens a jerk? Yeah,
Speaker 1: sorry about that. Uh. He's an undersize center, and I
Speaker 1: think he tends to play that way six to three.
Speaker 1: He's three h three. There's really nothing fluid or pretty
Speaker 1: about his game at all. Oh. I think he's kind
Speaker 1: of a rough and tumbled blocker. Body control and balance
Speaker 1: is really kind of all over the place. I thought
Speaker 1: he was a better blocker when he can use angles
Speaker 1: as opposed to taking guys head up. He can stand
Speaker 1: his man, but there's snaps when you see power will
Speaker 1: give him trouble. I watched the Oklahoma game, in the
Speaker 1: Minnesota game, I mean there were sometimes he got ragged
Speaker 1: all by our guy in that Oklahoma that that guy
Speaker 1: tore him up pretty good. And so the coaches will
Speaker 1: ask him to pull and get into space and lead.
Speaker 1: He's a little hurky jerky when it comes to that stuff.
Speaker 1: I do think he has a mean side to him
Speaker 1: because there are times when the guys were on the
Speaker 1: ground he was kind of diving into him and things
Speaker 1: like that. So but you know, his doesn't always maintain
Speaker 1: that position. I think he really has to fight to
Speaker 1: stay engaged. And but like his nasty size. But I
Speaker 1: think he does play small at times, and I'd have
Speaker 1: an issue with that. A lot of that comes from,
Speaker 1: like you said, playing small and being undersize. But I
Speaker 1: like the fight from him because he doesn't necessarily give up.
Speaker 1: He likes to get to the second level. He's not
Speaker 1: going to be that pure anchor, yeah, but he's somebody
Speaker 1: that could maybe develop into a good depth piece in
Speaker 1: terms of an offensive lineman and a center. We're not
Speaker 1: very athletic, I will say that much. He's not that funny.
Speaker 1: I remember saying a little bit about that about when
Speaker 1: you talked about Travis Frederick, he was not being really athletic,
Speaker 1: you know, but Travis did a great But you could
Speaker 1: see Travis though, on the move and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: you know, staying with this guy. This guy, like I say,
Speaker 1: I just kind of feel like that, I'm I'm getting
Speaker 1: a guy. But it's so funny when you watch a
Speaker 1: guy like say and Linderbaum's I think the best center
Speaker 1: in the draft, and when you watch him, he's just
Speaker 1: so smooth getting to his blocks and positioning, and this
Speaker 1: guy it's like a it's like a work to have
Speaker 1: to stay in position, where these other guys just kind
Speaker 1: of him. Fortner, the guy from Kentucky, I really really
Speaker 1: like good position handle, big guys, don't get bullied, you know,
Speaker 1: those are the kinds of guys I like. You expect
Speaker 1: that clunkiness to come from some of the bigger players
Speaker 1: at the position. I mean, look at Donovan West from
Speaker 1: Arizona State. I mean he's a little clunky, but he's huge.
Speaker 1: I mean he's got a massive frame. And yeah, Nard
Speaker 1: he's clunky, he's a good player and he's exceptionally strong.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just don't see that same kind of
Speaker 1: I see the same kind of clunkiness. I don't see
Speaker 1: the same kind of potential with Cam Jergins. If if
Speaker 1: they were good enough to go where those guys are going,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't just now be talking about him in April.
Speaker 1: I think he's a depth piece. I think, stop it,
Speaker 1: sweet man, you're the one that just called out both
Speaker 1: SMU tight ends. Tell me just one. There was no
Speaker 1: reason you mention through in the other guy thought you
Speaker 1: were about to say something not like it. But you
Speaker 1: know this guy's pretty good. Actually, no, he's even wor
Speaker 1: his family's listening. Tell me more about Verne McKinley, the
Speaker 1: Oregon safety. Okay, so this is one where um again,
Speaker 1: there's a reason that's this late before we talk about him.
Speaker 1: This is a guy that I desperately want to like
Speaker 1: because Varn McKinley is a really smart, really good football player.
Speaker 1: He's just small and unathletic according to measuring for the NFL,
Speaker 1: like he's five ten, he runs a four six five.
Speaker 1: His agilities weren't that good. Didn't stop you from loving
Speaker 1: our Darius Washington. It's true, call him out day is better,
Speaker 1: but this guy's five ten instead of five six, A
Speaker 1: better shot like Veron McKinley's gonna get drafted. He's a
Speaker 1: local guy um and at Oregon even watching him against
Speaker 1: Ohio State like he's He's always in the right position,
Speaker 1: he sees the game well, he tackles, he does all
Speaker 1: the things you want. It's just a matter of how
Speaker 1: high are you going to draft a guy when a
Speaker 1: lot of the other guys are going to be two
Speaker 1: inches taller, run a tenth or two of a second faster,
Speaker 1: and just be better athletes when we're going to play
Speaker 1: NFL football. I would take Veron McKinley, like for a
Speaker 1: team that maybe could use the safety Cowboys, but probably
Speaker 1: not going to use a high pick. If you told
Speaker 1: me Vern McKinley in the fourth or fifth round became
Speaker 1: a Cowboy, I'd say, Okay, I like that. So I
Speaker 1: really like the player. I just wish that he was
Speaker 1: maybe a little taller, a little faster, hit a little harder. Yeah,
Speaker 1: otherwise he'd be a first round pick. Doesn't have great
Speaker 1: length or speed, but he has instincts and awareness, and
Speaker 1: I think that's the thing that puts him in position
Speaker 1: to make plays. He can watch the UCLA game where
Speaker 1: he's this is how smart this kid is. Ball's on
Speaker 1: the ground and like the UCLA offensive lineman is about
Speaker 1: to dive on it, and he gets up there and
Speaker 1: he scoops it away to move it further up the
Speaker 1: field in order so he could pick it up. You know,
Speaker 1: that's the kind of instead of letting it, instead of
Speaker 1: trying to dive in. He gets there and he pushes
Speaker 1: the ball. You know, those are the kinds of things.
Speaker 1: You know, he's in a lot. He puts him so
Speaker 1: in a lot of positions to make plays. The ball
Speaker 1: tends to go his way too, which is something and
Speaker 1: I think that's about instincts. I think that's about awareness.
Speaker 1: I think Jeff is absolutely right about the physical makeup
Speaker 1: about him. Five ten, one ninety eight doesn't really run
Speaker 1: all that great. But the intangibles, the instincts, the awareness,
Speaker 1: I think are that what people are gonna probably give
Speaker 1: him high marks for because you gave him a couple
Speaker 1: of cons there in terms of the slim build, the
Speaker 1: tackling that are spot on, because he's not a great tackler,
Speaker 1: and that's not really he can't tackle. I don't think
Speaker 1: he can hit. Like he's not a powerful guy. I
Speaker 1: would agree with that. I think, Okay, Tackler not a
Speaker 1: good hitter. I would agree the one thing, he had
Speaker 1: eleven picks over his last two seasons and he had
Speaker 1: just I think three touchdowns that he allowed over the
Speaker 1: last three seasons at Oregon. Like he's not like a
Speaker 1: big play go get it of treybon Diggs where it's
Speaker 1: all or nothing sort of deal. He still has good
Speaker 1: coverage ability and he forces the turnover. And I think
Speaker 1: a lot of that goes back to what Brian was
Speaker 1: talking about in the awareness and the IQ to be
Speaker 1: in the right place at the right time, because it
Speaker 1: seems like every single time somebody goes his direction, he's
Speaker 1: at least nearby to try and make a play. Sounds
Speaker 1: like a coaches player, like a guy that the Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've heard that about him too, in terms of like
Speaker 1: the leadership and the football character because he was working
Speaker 1: out locally. Yeah, and I've talked to the guy who's
Speaker 1: been training him since he's in the fourth grade. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, and like that is apparent works. That's the
Speaker 1: thing about him is like he is a dude that
Speaker 1: coaches are gonna be like, yes, want him. Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 1: Uh he he uh. He interviewed because he's a local kid.
Speaker 1: They were on the on the station on one oh
Speaker 1: five three. He came up and he was doing interviews
Speaker 1: with the nighttime show. And the first time I met him,
Speaker 1: I'm walking out and he's walking in and he I say,
Speaker 1: and somebody introduced me and he looked at me. He goes, yes,
Speaker 1: it's a pleasure to meet you. I want to do
Speaker 1: your job. And I go, I go, well, thank you,
Speaker 1: and I go, I go, you've got a You've got
Speaker 1: a great job yourself. You know you're about to play
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And he goes, no, he goes, when
Speaker 1: I get done doing my job, I want to do
Speaker 1: your job. And so now I want him on the
Speaker 1: count so we can get him on the radio. No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, he is a he is a very he's
Speaker 1: a very he's a very nice, eloquent speaker, and he's
Speaker 1: very thoughtful and he gives good answers and stuff. And
Speaker 1: I told him, I said, man, I go, I enjoyed
Speaker 1: watching you play and stuff like that. But he is
Speaker 1: I think the I think the his intelligence is elite.
Speaker 1: For football. I really really do. Coaches player took me
Speaker 1: from Ada to fifty six. Let's go ahead and make
Speaker 1: its kidding, just kidding, just no, no, But he you know,
Speaker 1: he might not end up here, but he's You're gonna
Speaker 1: go somewhere and you're gonna be watching a game on
Speaker 1: Sunday or whatever, and he's gonna make a play and
Speaker 1: you're gonna go I remember that. Yeah, we're running a
Speaker 1: short on time. We're gonna do these rapid fire. I
Speaker 1: am gonna get to both of them. Zach Carter Florida
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Zach Carter tweeters a good word tweeter because
Speaker 1: he's six four, two eighty two. He plays up and
Speaker 1: down the Florida line. Uh not the Florida Georgia line,
Speaker 1: just a thank god. Two of the first ten plays
Speaker 1: against BAMMI he ends up on the ground. And so
Speaker 1: I'm watching the BAMI game and I'm like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: not a lot here. Then you watch him played not
Speaker 1: Bama in South Florida and you say, okay, now he
Speaker 1: looks the part. So I do think he's an NFL
Speaker 1: defensive lineman, probably a depth guy. One of those guys
Speaker 1: looks really good. Coming off the bus. Yeah, that's ANFL body.
Speaker 1: Dude looks like he belongs and he can pass rush
Speaker 1: a little bit on the interior. Zat Carter's an NFL
Speaker 1: player on day three. I think he's a guy who
Speaker 1: could transition into being a potential starter. I might be
Speaker 1: higher on him than most people because I like the traits.
Speaker 1: I like the size, the athleticism. Certainly there I it's
Speaker 1: basically like you said, there's a lot of raw to
Speaker 1: his game. And where do you play him? Do you
Speaker 1: want to if you want to put him solely at
Speaker 1: edge rusher, put him solely at ed rusher, let him
Speaker 1: build in an NFL off season for a little bit.
Speaker 1: If you want to put him an interior, do that
Speaker 1: as well. Either way, I think he's better off the edge.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I put him as a defensive end. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's tough either way. And the thing about it is, though,
Speaker 1: and here I might say he's a defensive end and
Speaker 1: then you know, but he's going to be able to
Speaker 1: play a couple different spots. There were times though, where
Speaker 1: he looks quick off the ball, and at other times
Speaker 1: it's like he's not. And I'm like going, bro, and
Speaker 1: and here I'm wanting to play him an end, and
Speaker 1: when you play in you really got to kind of
Speaker 1: be off the ball quick all the time. I kind
Speaker 1: of thought he was like a like almost like a
Speaker 1: five technique defensive end and at three to four and
Speaker 1: I know, and I know we kind of move around
Speaker 1: and play hybrid fronts and stuff like that. But I
Speaker 1: thought the way that he played with leverage was his
Speaker 1: best thing. I really did. I mean, his hands and
Speaker 1: his leverage. But other than that, man, it was kind
Speaker 1: of up and down with the way he really really
Speaker 1: rushed the passer. Day three though, yeah, yeah, yeah, early
Speaker 1: day three. Yeah. Charleston Rambo, Miami receiver, will round this
Speaker 1: episode out with him. Another Oklahoma transfer, jeah Boomer Sooner,
Speaker 1: played alongside Ceedee Lamb. Start with positives. I think he
Speaker 1: accelerates well, and I think he tracks a football well,
Speaker 1: so when the ball is in the air, he's gonna
Speaker 1: put himself in the right place to catch it. But
Speaker 1: he does have some drops. He is a skinny player
Speaker 1: that plays skinny. When you press him, it's bad news
Speaker 1: bears for him. So he put up really good numbers
Speaker 1: at Miami. A lot of that was soft coverage stop routes,
Speaker 1: along the sideline and then a decent chunk of it
Speaker 1: was throwing the ball down the field and he tracks
Speaker 1: it well and he'll catch it um but inconsistent catching.
Speaker 1: I don't think he can beat press coverage in the
Speaker 1: NFL because he couldn't do it against Alabama. So again,
Speaker 1: I think Day three, late day three fighting to make
Speaker 1: an NFL roster Alabama tape is really useful in that
Speaker 1: regard because you're like, oh, this is what look playing
Speaker 1: against an NFL team will kind of satch put up
Speaker 1: huge numbers against Michigan Michigan State Conservative and then I
Speaker 1: lacked Damagett in his face. It's like it off the line.
Speaker 1: You watch the Michigan State game, you might draft him
Speaker 1: in the first round. Seriously. I mean he can make
Speaker 1: a bunch of big catches. I think Jeff's right. His
Speaker 1: best trade is his ability to adjust to the ball,
Speaker 1: and I think the tracking party's absolutely right. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter where it's sown. This guy's going to find a
Speaker 1: way to kind of catch it. I wouldn't call him
Speaker 1: the fastest of the quickest route runner. I think he
Speaker 1: does manage to get open, but I think it's going
Speaker 1: to He's not going to drive a corner out of
Speaker 1: his pedal with the way he runs it just he's
Speaker 1: just a kind of a steady, smooth player in that regard.
Speaker 1: He's a load him up volume receiver. Seventy nine receptions
Speaker 1: broke the all time single season Miami receiving record. I mean,
Speaker 1: he had seventy nine receptions. It's wild, Like there's been
Speaker 1: a lot of receivers coming out and say. It just
Speaker 1: speaks to the way the game is changing. That battle
Speaker 1: set a record at a school that had a guy
Speaker 1: like Michael Irvine. But I don't know, while you guys
Speaker 1: had to make me hate him. Former sooners right in
Speaker 1: front of him. Yeah, two of them, jerks. We're just
Speaker 1: trying to teach you. Rambo had really big stats at
Speaker 1: Miami that makes you a first rounder. We're helping you
Speaker 1: with your deliver. That's what we're doing here. Maks Mane
Speaker 1: that Michigan State game, though, seriously looks good. He would
Speaker 1: think that the sky more a Michigan start off. And
Speaker 1: I was like, well, let's see against Bam And I
Speaker 1: was like, and anybody who presses him sends him fifteen
Speaker 1: yards that way. That's a problem. Are you guys selling these. Yes.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Brian, you're a better salesman than me. Yeah, well, no,
Speaker 1: what are you? He's doing it right. Put it on,
Speaker 1: put it on the front camp. The front camp. Our
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Speaker 1: gonna go. We're gonna do tell me more up until
Speaker 1: draft week, so we'll have threny more opportunities to talk
Speaker 1: about guys and uh look, I'm really calm efidence some
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